POX: Steely Dan

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I just found out they're playing the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City this coming August! Quote from a friend, summing up precisely why I wanna go: "I intend to get a room and stay over, in the hopes that I'll catch Walt & Don at 4 AM at the roulette wheel blowing their night's receipts, a hooker on each arm."

Doctor Wu ("all night long we would sing that stupid song" = "that stupid song" is according to Don/Walt "Visions of Johanna," and it makes me smile that my favorite song obliquely references my other favorite song)

Rose Darling (clandestine lust, huge voluptuous chords; I love the whole thing except the second half of the chorus, which sounds like it belongs in a different song)

Gaucho (I always heard "the studs that match your eyes" as "the stars," and the correct lyric doesn't disprove the gay subtext I imagined this song had -- just changes the nature of it a little. Images of romantic infatuation --> images of rough-sex leatherboy roleplaying.)

Aja ("people never stare/they just don't care") (why? aloof permissiveness or nonplussed disinterest?)

Home at Last (most people who love Aja only ever mention the hits, and there are only like seven songs on the album so it's hard not to, but "Home at Last" is a sexy intrepid high-seas adventure! "Home at Last" is the emotional high note before the last round of commercials; "I Got the News" and "Josie" are the "joking around the kitchen table the morning after"/"cut to hilarious freeze-frame" wind-down moments.)

Kid Charlemagne (tho I prefer The Royal Scam's snazzy "get - ay - LONG" to the more pedestrian "geddalong" the backup singers have employed in recent live/filmed performances)

The Caves of Altamira (ladies and gentlemen, the mu chord)

Your Gold Teeth (a slight edge over "Your Gold Teeth II" cuz I'm feeling a little sinister this morning)

Soul Ram
Sun Mountain (these are old Don/Walt pre-Dan recordings; moodwise, "Soul Ram" is kinda the "Your Gold Teeth" to "Sun Mountain"'s "Your Gold Teeth II")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

#11, "Here At the Western World"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

#12, "Almost Gothic"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'm so excited I can barely cope/I'm sizzling like an isotope"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Without looking at AMG to recall what all of their songs were:
(Many are the same as J.B.R.'s)
Gold Teeth
Home at Last
Don't Take Me Alive
Do It Again - (Didn't like this song for the longest time.. but now I've changed my mind & put it in the top 10.)
Showbiz Kids
Doctor Wu
I Got the News
Bodhisattva
Reelin' in the Years (Not ashamed of the hits)
Any Major Dude Will Tell You

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

JBR, I saw Steely Dan in '96 in Cincinnati with my mom.

1. Bad Sneakers.
2. Dirty Work.
3. Barrytown.
4. Night By Night.
5. My Old School.
6. Home At Last. (great pick JBR!)
7. Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More.
8. Any Major Dude Will Tell You.
9. Hey Nineteen.
10. Bodhisattva.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

whoops I meant:

1. Bad Sneakers.
2. Dirty Work.
3. Barrytown.
4. Night By Night.
5. My Old School.
6. Home At Last. (great pick JBR!)
7. Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More.
8. Any Major Dude Will Tell You.
9. Hey Nineteen.
10. Brooklyn Owes The Charmer (Under Me).

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

#13, "Fire in the Hole"!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

MR. Steely Dan.

1. Live "Bodhisattva" I have on flip side of "Time Out of Mind" single. Greatest band intro ever--little pretty thing.
2. "Josie." Heard this outdoors at the Fremon St. mall in Las Vegas last month, cool ominous intro.
3. "My Old School." Dig the horns.
4. "Kid Charlemagne." Did Owsley ever hear it?
5. "Bad Sneakers." The pause after "Radio City with a..."
6. "Parker's Band."
7. "Turn That Heartbeat Over Again."
8. "Rikki Don't Lose That Number." Horace Silver=great AM single.
9. "Dr. Wu."
10. "Pretzel Logic."

Yep, when you add that extra note in there--and voice it as a wholetone and not as a ninth, it sho sound fat.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mistah Stilly Dan Whutevah!"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Ladies and Gentlemen, Stevie Dan!

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

The Royal Scam*
Caves of Altamira**
Time Out of Mind***
Everything You Did***
Bodhisattva****
Don't Take Me Alive*****
Throw Back The Little Ones******
FM
Turn That Heartbeat Over Again*******
Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More


* = req. listening for anybody who thinks moving to a large city is going to improve their life
** = req. listening for anybody who believes that understanding one's own craft implies understanding 'anything else'
*** = revenge is sweet.
**** =ignorance is bliss.
***** = revenge is sweeter than bliss. The bit where the arpeggiated guitar triads switch from minor to major just before the solo = the catarectomies in G Lish's 'Dear Mr Capte', anybody ever read that? UUUURRRRGGGGHHH *shudder*. Fuckin' hell what a book, I actually felt my sanity melting away while reading it, best 1st-person maniac killer book ever. This song is the analogue
****** = that coda.
******* = what about the Darien Gap though guys?

dave q, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't Take Me Alive
Deacon Blues
Janie Runaway
Do It Again
Bodhisattva
The Boston Rag
Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Black Friday
Show-Biz Kids
Everybody's Gone To The Movies

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

('Caves of Altamira', what are they sayin' there? 'He who controls the image/ controls'(If the 'greatest step in the evolution of the human mind' was the representative figure then Picasso/Parker/Joyce = the Great Deceivers presiding over the Fall and expulsion from Eden like Mr Lepage and Cousin Dupree come on 'Rose' take a bite of Mr Parker's apple)

dave q, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know that I can do a proper POX, since I've only heard Katy Lied, Gaucho, and Decade of... -- but to the previous lists I'd add "Peg." Great song.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't believe I forgot "Deacon Blue." I think there's a law in Alabama that radio stations have to play that and "Sweet Home Alabama" at least once a day.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only one who finds "Deacon Blues" a bit tedious?

(Alabama's got a nice little crop of state songs, though -- "Stars Fell on Alabama" is now the motto on their license plates.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Bodhisattva

An old interweb nickname of mine: "Jodhisattva"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

(no one ever spelled it right)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Jody, that song is actually what got me into the Dan -- after hearing it on the radio (WXRT in Chicago) in high school.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Brooklyn (Owes the Charmer Under Me)
Show Biz Kids
My Old School
Monkey in Your Soul
Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No.More
Doctor Wu
Any World (That I'm Welcome To)
Kid Charlemagne
Black Cow
Aja

TMFTML (TMFTML), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn. Now I have to rescind my ILM crushes on TMFTML and JBR--because Steely Dan STONE COLD SUX. Their music is joyless and oppressive. And they're ugly. And Skunk Baxter is annoying.

(ducks)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

do you hate the Doobies?

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm okay with hearing 'Black Water' about once every couple years. So not quite as much, but yes.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

The only Steely Dan song that I need in my life is "Through With Buzz."

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

That would be my #14.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Barrietown. 2. Brooklyn. 3. Doctor Wu. 4. Everyone's Gone to the Movies. 5. Peg. 6. My Old School. 7. Gaucho. 8. Deacon Blues. 9. Don't Take Me Alive. 10. Gold Teeth II

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't listen to them very much any more--Sharon has this cassette (!) boxed set, "Citizen" I think it is. I still own old LPs I inherited--the first one and "Pretzel" both w/ gatefolds, so that's cool. I went thru a phase where I regarded them as joyless and oppressive. But all in all, a pretty damn good balance of craft and actually having something to say--I dunno, I always put them in the same category as Roxy Music somehow, nice glossy weird post-rock before post-rock? Plus as Manzanera, I believe, once said, every song does have a great guitar solo...

I plan to go out and buy "Countdown to Ecstasy" on CD sometime--feel I should own that one.

"Jodhissatva"--that's good.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah gtr solos!

Black Friday
Green Earrings
Glamour Profession
Everything You Did
Hey 19 (OK it's a synth)
Kid Charlemagne
I Got the News
Your Gold Teeth 2 HOLY FUCK
Chain Lightning
Pearl of the Quarter (always partial to a bit of steel)

that's only the first ten

dave q, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

6. "Parker's Band."

Trivia time. Track down an old Charlie Parker number called "Bongo Beep"; the melody's the same as that little throwaway figure at the end of "Parker's Band." I was listening to one of those Dial Sessions comps at someone's house a few years ago and when "Bongo Beep" came on I was floored.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

and the 'Peg' solo. slidey at the begining then that SCREECH note and those harsh descending things, then there's those lazy bends at the end. I like the outro solo of 'Green Earrings' too with the phasing, 'Rikki''s got a good one as well. I love the "I dunno" bit in 'Rikki'. Like it sounds like "I DO know and you know I know, and I know that you know..." etc, "so, like, give it up". To quote the anti-Dan, "we're addressing the realpolitik". Like that AMG track that goes "Is this gonna hurt? Well, maybe"

dave q, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I know where Rikki's house is. And also where Gamma Chi was.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

"Bongo Beep." I don't have that Parker cut anywhere.

You mean the bit at the very end of the song?

Bridge to "Parker's" is really hard to play right.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I know where Rikki's house is. And also where Gamma Chi was.

And obv you know where "Annandale" is!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone who went to the College of William and Mary ("oh no, William and Mary won't do") reminded me about the school's proximity to Annandale, VA. I'd always assumed they were talking about Annandale-on-Hudson, NY (where Bard College is).

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Do they know Lonnie, and do they let him anywhere near their stash?

dave q, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

well the story I heard from Dick Wiles (retired Economics professor and Hudson Valley Historian) was that the Annandale was a reference to a boarding school in Virginia that Walter Becker attended pre-Bard. According to him, the Wolverine was a train that went to D.C. They put the "up to Annandale" in the song to confuse people. They did that all the time with other stuff, too: Gamma Chi was a frat at Bard up to the 1930s, frats were banned long before Becker/Fagen got there.

Also, Barrytown is just south of Annandale off River Road. The late Fluxus poet/playwright/publisher Dick Higgins lived there (and was landlord to some friends of mine).

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(what a great thread this is turning into!)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

(not that it didn't start out as one ahem ahem)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

When I went to W&M everyone claimed that song as ours, not Bard's.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah see Yanc3y I don't think it belongs to either. Isn't Annandale, VA closer to DC than Williamsburg, tho? My Virginia geography knowledge is failing me, but I seem to think it's a suburb, unlike Williamsburg?

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Annandale, VA is just inside the DC beltway at about 7 o'clock

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

#15 - the opening of "The Boston Rag" (reminds me of those early E Street Band records -- urbane stoner prog w/ big Leonard Bernstein melodrama and R&B flourishes)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Annandale is about 2 hours from Williamsburg. I agree that it's probably not really about either, but that didn't stop annoying fucks at W&M from claiming them. (as if shitloads of Presidents and Seven Mary Three weren't enough to build our rep off of!)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Haitian Divorce
2. Everyone's Gone To The Movies
3. Babylon Sisters
4. Hey Nineteen
5. East Saint Louis Toodle-Oo
6. FM (No Static At All)
7. Glamour Profession
8. Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
9. Aja
10.Peg

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

BTW JBR, I always thought 'Gaucho' was totally a gay-themed song - "bodacious cowboys such as your friend will never be welcome here" etc - I imagine that line being sung by the rich older male lover of a young and feckless hottie twink

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

heh well neither of them went to W&M, so I'm not sure how they could really be claimed by y'all. Not that that's much credit to Bard: Becker didn't graduate, and Fagen apparently doesn't donate any money.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

cheap bastard!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

**Grumbles for the thousandth time about the lack of recognizable alums from my alma mater, Kalamazoo College.**

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

(Nicolas has heard all about my Bard jealousy, Hstencil.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(jaymc, I'm sure we have some non-illustrious alums. Like me, f'instance.)

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

famous grads from my college: Lee Ranaldo and Camille Paglia!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

"Time Out of Mind" is fucking incredible -- I've been humming it to myself for about six days straight, after acquiring all the Dan's albums on a trip to Richmond (all on one trip, all in the dollar bin at that).

I've been listening to the Dan pretty much exclusively for about 2 weeks now -- I'm not sure when that's going to change.

I also went to W&M, and I can testify with some degree of certainty that there's not a frat boy out there without "My Old School" in his mp3 folder -- if that helps. BTW, hi Yancey! Email me sometime...

Clarke B., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, I love the way "Chain Lightning" makes you think it's going to be standard 6/8 12-bar blues, but the chord changes are totally unexpected and great-sounding.

My gf and I rented "History of Rock-n-Roll: The 70s" from the public library yesterday, which featured a live performance of "Reeling in the Years" -- they were unbelievably static up there, but the playing was awesome. Skunk Baxter said lots of hilarious rockist stuff about disco, too.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I know I know: "Skunk Baxter is a rockist SHOCKAH"

Clarke B., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

skunk baxter and my boss who looked like eugene levy and traded alman brothers tapes turned me offa steely dan for YEARS

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

jeff "skunk" baxter ownz u all!!!!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

you would say that

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, how do you feel about them now?

Clarke B., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

**Grumbles for the thousandth time about the lack of recognizable alums from my alma mater, Kalamazoo College.**

Kalamazoo, MI: Classic or Dud?

EC, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, i love them. katy lied is one of my favorite albums ever.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic, fer sure. But I'm biased.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

but still, i can't help shake the feeling that much of their fan base appreciates them for all the wrong (baxter-ized) reasons

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Steve Shelley lived in Kalamazoo at one point!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Katy Lied really surprised me when I got it home -- all of the songs are like three minutes, and barely three minutes at that! You get this idea of SD as purveyors of seven-minute jazz-rock tunes, but then albums like this and Pretezel Logic totally wreck that notion. "Rose Darling" has a complex and beautiful chorus that seems new each time I hear it -- I know this is a cliche, but it's strangely uncanny with this song how true it rings with me.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, that was initially what put me off of them - that false notion - since my boss owned - wait for it - 600 grateful dead live tapes, and hundreds upon hundreds of similar (and the dan.) (i know this because he paid me under the table to code him a site to log them all.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I read this article on Steely Dan where the author said "If I see SD discs in someone's collection, I know they've got great tastes" -- I couldn't sympathize with this at all, mostly for the reasons Jess hints at.

Just out of curiosity, what are the four artists to the right of your Dan albums alphabetically, and the four to the right?

For me: Soul Center, Spacemen 3/Spiritualized, Squarepusher, Stars of the Lid... THE DAN... Stereolab, Stockholm Monsters, Stooges, Stravinsky

Clarke B., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

(i know now more about "dark star" than i ever EVER wanted to)

oh jeez...well they're probably remarkably close to clarkes! (minus squarepusher.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Vinyl:

Spring Heel Jack, Squarepusher, The Static, Jim Staley. . . Stereolab, the Stooges, Storm&Stress, The Styrenes

CDs:

Souled American, Speedranch^JanskyNoise, Alexander “Skip” Spence, Stanley Brothers. . . Stereolab, Stilluppsteypa, Stock Hausen and Walkman, The Stone Roses

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, that stuff abt cataloguing yr boss's Dead bootlegs wld make a superb story!

But I dunno abt this 'wrong-reasons-for-liking-the-Dan business...' - isn't it nice that there's one group at least that chops-lovin' jazzbos and anti-technique pop types can agree abt?

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"wrong reasons"

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, totally...i wish i HAD liked them then...the only common ground this guy and I had (other than me being his retail slave) was our love for jazz...i shudder to think what that job would have been like if i didnt at least like miles 70s stuff

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S. Jody I kiss you. Also I need my Steely Dan albums back from a friend. It's been a year and it's really not funny anymore.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

1) King of the World - No marigolds in the promised land Love the Moog
2) Sign in Stranger - Do you like to take a yo-yo for a ride? piano is vicious
3) Razor Boy - I guess only women in cages can play down the games they lose
4) Any Major Dude Will Tell You
5) My Old School - tak'a down to Mex i Co I said
6) Caves of Altamira
7) Any World That I'm Welcome To
8) Only a Fool Would Say That
9) Black Cow
10) Cousin Dupree - (hilarious)

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Doctor Wu
2. Rikki Don't Lose That Number
3. Rose Darling
4. Hey Nineteen
5. Your Gold Teeth II
6. Pearl of the Quarter
7. Green Earrings
8. Home At Last
9. Josie
10. Dirty Work

I've just realized that Katy Lied is by far my favorite of their records.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

The coda on "Hey Nineteen" is my very favorite thing.

The Cuervo Gold
The fine Columbian
Make tonight a wonderful thing

Somehow, for me, it suggests (but only suggests) the desperation and loneliness beneath the ol' smoothie routine, but also the gentility of it all, thereby redeeming the cliche for everymore.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha I mean the whole song not just those three lines. Talk about exegesis!

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

So what about the Becker/Fagen solo works? As much as I love "Kamakiriad" and "The Nightfly" -- which kicks ass on DVD-Audio, I have to say -- my heart holds a soft spot for Becker's "11 Tracks Of Whack" from 1994...seems like Becker captured the spirit of the Dan better than Fagen did. Comments?

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

They're such a stupendous band, really -- the music, the myth, the precision, the snark, the beauty. There are very few artists I get fanatical about to this degree. I think they're a good match for my personality and temperament.

Sorta wish they'd left Gaucho as their definitive "last stand"; I'd have preferred to just remember them as a flicker of the past and not have to watch them grow old ungracefully. But there were a few terrific moments on Two Against Nature (the ending of "West of Hollywood" could have been the high-note ending Gaucho chose not to go out on).

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Floyd Pepper = Jeff "Skunk" Baxter

gary k (gary k), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I was listening to The Nightfly over the weekend, actually... it's beautiful and it's aged really well for a production style that dates itself so easily. I looooooooooooooooooove "Maxine." I could get lost in those harmonies.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

OK is part of the challenge of Gaucho to readjust your aesthetic values so that they can accomodate that sort of lite-jazz rhythym section and if so has anyone met this challenge? Are there any of us music nerds who can say anything interesting about this sort of music outside of the stray Steely Dan and Sade touchstones (which stand a bit outside of it, granted)?

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

OK is part of the challenge of Gaucho to readjust your aesthetic values so that they can accomodate that sort of lite-jazz rhythym section

Yes. It's a very anti-rockist record -- you have to disabuse yrself of the idea that you're too hardcore and real for it. Put aside what you dislike about that sort of music and listen to the songs.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Put aside what you dislike about that sort of music

How? (Honestly.)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Also:

Fagen/Becker

http://www.artistdirect.com/showcase//contemporary/photos/steelydan.gif

vs. Hütter/Schneider

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200_web/drp100/p141/p14111nm95j.jpg

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

How? (Honestly.)

I dunno. It worked for me when I was a bratty little metalhead kid and my dad would play the Steely Dan best-of whenever we were out in the car. The first 25 times I did the usual "Aw, this sucks!" bit, but then I really started to get into it, ESPECIALLY songs like "Babylon Sisters" and "Here at the Western World." I remember thinking how "punk" it was that they'd make music that could stir such violent hatred in people -- Gaucho is bizjazz's very own Metal Machine Music, except people find it too listenable!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"Gaucho" the way I see it, is a bit too patchy. The first three tracks really hint at a the album being their definite masterpiece, and then they lose it in some way.

Btw. I consider "The Nightfly" even better than any Steely Dan album.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

(new album coming out June 10th btw -- called Everything Must Go)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: "Time Out of Mind" vs. Dylan's Time Out of Mind

TS: Can't Buy a Thrill vs. Dylan's "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry" ("Well, I ride on a mail train, baby/Can't buy a thrill")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

the opening 10 seconds of "black friday" are very kwerk!

if only, if only...

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Put aside what you dislike about that sort of music and listen to the songs.

But isn't this a bit like saying the overlay (the melodies, the lyrics, the wry vocals) "redeems" the rhythm section?

Here's what I'm thinking: we know a lot of people who listen to Steely Dan may have come to it through lite-jazz or MOR. Jess (I think it was Jess) even went to far as to suggest that they might be appreciating S.D. for the "wrong reasons." But have any of us passed through the mirror from the other side, so to speak? Have we been able to listen to "smooth jazz" with more attentive ears as a result of learning to appreciate Gaucho?

I haven't done it lord knows--I still have an instinctual response to cringe or change the channel when WNUA plays nearly anything but S.D. or Sade. I'm wondering if I've so far failed some kind of challenge--even if Becker and Fagen didn't conceive of it in exactly that way.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

It worked for me when I was a bratty little metalhead kid and my dad would play the Steely Dan best-of whenever we were out in the car. The first 25 times I did the usual "Aw, this sucks!" bit, but then I really started to get into it

Fair enough. For me, the Dan somehow equals being in a hatchback in the late seventies as a small child on the way to the doctor because you're sick and it's raining and you're too young to say Mommy turn this fucking lite jazz off! Which I don't think was an actual scenario, but for lack of better words that's what I get when I hear it. I don't doubt that they are good musicians, but that's no solace.

TS: Time Out of Mind. (Obvi.) The album itself is okay, but I have a promo e.p. of live versions of Love Sick, Can't Wait, Million Miles, and Cold Irons Bound which is absolutely fierce (and I'm not a great Dylan fan).

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry for the local reference. WNUA, Chicago-area smooth jazz station.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Have we been able to listen to "smooth jazz" with more attentive ears as a result of learning to appreciate Gaucho?

Actually, yeah. I don't love smooth jazz, but Gaucho helped me see that certain musical tropes aren't inherently evil. People hate this stuff because they're taught to, because it's [a] not youth music, and [b] sophisticated in the "wrong" way (setting up a "yuppies vs. hipsters" feud that shouldn't even exist because hipsters ARE yuppies).

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

or [c] enjoyed by creepy recovering-addict session-musos who meditate to Tubular Bells

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

#16 - "This All Too Mobile Home"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

People hate this stuff because they're taught to, because it's [a] not youth music, and [b] sophisticated in the "wrong" way

It's hard to tell what kind of "coolness" factors I've internalized, but: I don't hate classical music. Or big band, or bop. Or most things. These are not youthful (I'm not sure what the "wrong" sophistication is).

I'm not trying to be a dick--people are obviously permitted to enjoy things I don't. Maybe I'm just missing it like I'm also evidently not "getting" Daydream Nation... :-)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Big band and bop are sophisticated in the "right" way -- smart, sexy, just-impetuous-enough, either really brassy or really subtle. Having a taste for old-school jazz tends to imply that you're cultivated and discriminating (or you consider yourself so). Whereas smooth jazz implies "dinner music for bourgeois office twats who buy 12 CDs a year."

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

12 CDs a year = mega-decadent by the standards of most 40somethings I know.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

(I used to know ppl like this... like the only CDs they owned were the Lion King soundtrack, a Kenny G thing, and a Peter Gabriel thing.)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Great thread Jody B.

I'm so ambivalent about a lot of '70s music. The Dan included. But I'm telling you, hearing "Josie" emanate from these speakers outdoors in that Vegas mall was an epiphany. Great moment. All these wasted people wandering around and this incredible intro wafting thru the mall--I love America and its indifference to art...

Left and right of Steely D. in vinyl (working frm memory here partly):
3 Stax comps on vinyl (Fantasy reissues). Chris Stamey LPs. Gary Stewart LPs on RCA. "Stiffs Live." A Suicide record.

I did have a problem with them for a while, as I say upthread. But their great subject is reclaiming a bit of history that rock and roll had partly obscured. Post-counterculture. Has anyone else heard the Thomas Jefferson Kaye record on ABC/Dunhill they contributed a song ("American Lovers") to? I read a review of it by Xgau a few years back and found it for about a buck not long after. TJK wrote "One Man Band" which was done by Three Dog Night...

"The Nightfly" is a fine record. "A summer smoker underground." One of those records that most everyone likes--and it's a good record to boot...

Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought one of the selling points of later-era Steely Dan was their Trojan Horse approach to lite-jazz -- slick melodies cracked open to expell virulent odes to sex and drugs -- which is why "Two Against Nature" worked so well for me. Granted, I love the earlier stuff, especially "Katy Lied" and "The Royal Scam," but they didn't scare me off when they left Bodhisattva city limits.

Erick H (Erick H), Thursday, 10 April 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

It's so weird; just this afternoon I was thinking how strange it was that my (probably) two favorite bands from the 70s were Kraftwerk and Steely Dan.

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Your Gold Teeth II
2. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
3. Pretzel Logic
4. Only a Fool Would Say That
5. Bad Sneakers
6. Razor Boy
7. The Fez
8. Hey Nineteen
9. Deacon Blues
10. Do It Again

Honorable mentions: Haitian Divorce, Kid Charlemagne, Babylon Sisters, The Boston Rag, King of the World, Peg, Third World Man

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

A funny related point to the "not your usual Dan fan" surrounding-albums tangent: how many people who own surrounding albums similar to Jess', mine, hstencil's, etc., would scoff at, if not wholeheartedly SCORN, the DAN at the heart of ours? And why would they do such a thing?

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

It would take me hours to determine a top ten. I'm pretty sure "Show Biz Kids" would be number one. When I think of when I began to get into them, I have a Wonder Years moment and it's a Saturday afternoon in June -- Dad's scrubbing the Pinto in the driveway, I'm bouncing a superball off the side of the house, "Peg" is playing on the garage stereo. I was supposed to mow the lawn hours ago.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Btw. I consider "The Nightfly" even better than any Steely Dan album.

I don't know about "better than," but it's a great album. I had a pirate radio show for a while, and I was The Nightfly. Seriously, that's what i called myself. I was on between two and four, playing blues and jazz from the 50's, 60's and 70's, from my own collection. (My own collection got huge in this time period.) It was a dream gig, really. No hassles, no responsibilities, just me and this shack and this 100 ft. radio tower in someone's backyard. We reached most of East Austin and all of the campus/downtown area pretty well. People would call in... "Can you play some Bjork?" No ma'am, I cannot. I have nothing against Bjork, mind you, but you're with me tonight. How about some Sister Rosetta Thorpe instead?

I would occasionally sneak in a Steely Dan track. I once got this memorable phone call: I was playing "Your Gold Teeth II," and some girl called in and asked what it was. I told her it was Steely Dan, and she said, in the most disgusted voice she could possibly muster, "Oh." And then quickly hung up. As if she was horrified that this song she liked was by a band that sucks. Old age is wasted on the young.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you guys think of *any* modern analogue to Steely Dan? My roommate and I were just talking about this: what would it even mean for a band to resemble the Dan nowadays? Would it even be possible? Don't people ever get tired of unquestioningly valuing amateurism and non-technique?

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a cool story, Kenan; I'd love to have been a part of a pirate radio station. I'm planning to do a three-hour exam show on Steely Dan at WCWM in Williamsburg -- I have no idea how this is going to go over.

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

There are plenty of people who value professionalism and technique, but they're all witless. I despair of anyone equalling the Dan again.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Clark, what's an "exam show"? SOunds like a test. No fun at all.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

clarke: andy k posited it first, but arab strap are like the dan minus the artifice, i think. (cue everyone saying "the artifice is at least 50% of the point".)

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

It's the one-two punch of artifice + weary cynicism that make it Dan. Like I said, very hard to duplicate. Very difficult to get people who share both of those sensibilities in the same room, even.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, minus the artifice and the grooves!

Kenan, an exam show is actually really kewl -- a three-hour slot during finals in which DJs can play anything they want. I always do themes; I've done a Kraftwerk show, a Miles in the 70s show, and another that I can't remember right now. I know that this Dan show is going to be a blast, though.

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

In three hours, you can play half their catalogue.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about sequencing, contextualization, and commentary. ;-)

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course. I'd be interesting in hearing the show. If only I wasn't a thousand miles away.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Coming to this thread late, but I've got a couple thoughts. I think I'm a bit older than the mean age around here (I'm 31), but my first knowledge of the Dan came by way of "Hey Nineteen" just being a huge pop radio hit when I was like, what, 8 years old? I always loved that song, one of the first pop tunes I really enjoyed. In fact, whenever I hear it, I too have one of Andy K's "Wonder Years moments" (love that), except in my case it is cruising in my dear departed grandfather's Cadillac along the bank of the Erie Canal in upstate New York.

In fact, in my mind I always conflate it with "Just the Two of Us" by Grover Washington, Jr. with Bill Withers! That was just a monster hit, and the two them came out roughly around the same time. And they both sort of exemplify the lite-jazz approach. Except that whereas now "lite-jazz" is it's own ghettoized genre, these two songs were bona fide pop hits. You couldn't escape 'em. Actually I'm straining to think of songs since then in the template that achieved similar success. Maybe an interesting topic for further research if I wasn't so wiped out right now.

So anyway, this is all by way of me thinking about Amateurist's question; and thinking that I didn't come to the Dan by way of yupster shite (WNUA), and nor did their music serve to open my ears to the bathos of lite-jazz. I sort of place it in a certain time period and in a certain era of multiplicity in pop music.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I wrote an essay about Steely Dan several months ago, if anyone's interested.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I have those sorts of Wonder Years moments when listening to them too, and I'm only 22. "Pretzel Logic" (the song) especially creates an almost deja vu-like level of resonance whose source I can't remember for the life of me. It's cool now to be able to appreciate their wit and sarcasm and intelligence, but back then I think I was just wooed by their neato melodies and gr00vz (and I'd be lying if I said that those things didn't comprise a large portion of my liking for them now as well).

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a really enjoyable essay, Kenan. I'm going to be bold and a bit of an asshole, however, and suggest that to get off on the juxtaposition of slick/sterile grooves and sardonic lyrics (not to say that you are guilty of this, as you yourself mention in the essay) is to miss the point to some extent. The early stuff doesn't even rely on this sort of juxtaposition very much -- there's quite a bit of scunge on Countdown to Ecstasy, for instance -- and only Gaucho really goes whole-hog on the slickness thing. Still, it's the inverse of the problem I have with the traditional rockist-ish way of appreciating the Dan -- to get off on that sort of juxtaposition seems like a hipster's rationalization of a liking that he feels some degree of shame about. "Yeah the grooves are kind of anemic but MAN are they bitter and world-weary!" No, the music's great, too, and to fail to acknowledge or "feel" that is to have if you will a stunted and incomplete -- and, I think, ultimately unfulfilling -- appreciation of the band.

Clarke B., Thursday, 10 April 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I just read it again myself, and I think I was too defensive. I felt too guilty about liking them. It's as if I was saying, "The music stinks, but the lyrics are great!" A more honest approach to my relationship with this band would include Wonder Years moments. I say this at one point:

Think for a moment: what kind of mind decides to put this kind of music to these lyrics? What are they trying to prove, what are they getting at? It's not about spontaneous release of emotion, obviosly, and it's not even slightly improvised, so it's not rock and it's not jazz. What is it?

Well, duh, it's pop. And any assessment of the band should include the fact that Dan wrote great pop songs. I do say that, but too breifly.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)

No, the music's great, too, and to fail to acknowledge or "feel" that is to have if you will a stunted and incomplete -- and, I think, ultimately unfulfilling -- appreciation of the band.

Then again -- and thank you for making me think about this again, because I really enjoy doing so -- the music, while great, is great in a different way than the "hipsters" you dislike so much are used to hearing as "great." Maybe the hipsters didn't grow up listening to Glen Campbell sing Jimmy Webb like I did, so they don't appreciate a clean, tight pop song for what it is. And often the music is great in a way that has nothing to do with emotion. It's often most brilliant to the person who understands songwriting, chords, changes, structure. The music alone sometimes hits on a gut level, is sometimes irresistably catchy, but not always. To FULLY appreciate Dan, you need to understand technique.

An likewise with the lyrics. They're amazing, but not to just anyone. Dan does not write love songs. They write complex layers of meaning.

So they both appeal to both sides, and fail to satisfy both sides. It takes a rare person (I don't mean to overcongratulate myself here) to understand all of what's going on there.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Kenan, thanks for mentioning "The Fez". I thought it would pop up a lot more here, but alas. The lyrics are INSCRUTABLE! Off to read your article.

weatheringdaleson (weatheringdaleson), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The Fez = condom

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

And it's a disco song, so it's kind of a jokey poke at the 70's "swinger" aesthetic.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Ack! I didn't know that! I feel stupid (in a non-plussed kind of way). Now I suppose I have to scrutinize the lyrics. Wait, don't tell me there's a pun on holy (man)/holey (condom)?

weatheringdaleson (weatheringdaleson), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Pedant alert!

"Non-plussed" does not mean what everyone thinks it means. In fact, it means almost the opposite.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel stupid (in a confused, bewildered kind of way).
Enjoyed your essay, Kenan.

weatheringdaleson (weatheringdaleson), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

You're not alone. It's not your fault.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 12 April 2003 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)

This has been the second time in as many days that I've been corrected by a pedant.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 12 April 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

thank you for this thread JBR

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 13 April 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

My absolute favorite SD track ("Pearl of the Quarter") didn't make anyone's lists!

J (Jay), Sunday, 13 April 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

"Pearl of the Quarter" is nice but I've always had an irrational dislike of the "Cajun smile" line. Seems like a cheaply conceived lyric ("hey, let's think of things to say about New Orleans... well, they have Cajuns there") (and anyway the predominant influence in New Orleans is the Creole culture, not the Cajun) (but then Fagen also pronounces "Oregon" wrong in "Don't Take Me Alive," a song in which the narrator's supposed to be FROM Oregon) (do your research, man).

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Don makes up for it by singing 'red beans and rice for a quarter' so nicely.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Darni3ll3 on tour or something? He should be all over this thread like a cheap suit.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

im goin to see the Dan is Paso Robles!!!!!

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 13 April 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: "Time Out of Mind" vs. Dylan's Time Out of Mind
TS: Can't Buy a Thrill vs. Dylan's "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry" ("Well, I ride on a mail train, baby/Can't buy a thrill")

TS: the Louise character in "Pearl of the Quarter" vs. the Louise character in Dylan's "Visions of Johanna"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 April 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

is = in

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 13 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't care one way or another about the 'cajun' reference. It's the bridge that kills me.

Anyway:

1) Pearl of the Quarter
2) Dirty Work
3) Everyone's Gone to the Movies
4) Sign in Stranger
5) Any Major Dude Will Tell You
6) Caves of Altamira
7) FM
8) Show Biz Kids
9) Everything You Did
10) Josie

J (Jay), Sunday, 13 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The funny thing about "Dirty Work" is that for the longest time I really liked the song but had no idea it was by them. I'd hear it come on classic rock radio and enjoy it, but as they are wont to do the djs never announced what they played. I was surprised when I learned it was the Dan because, you know, it has that other dude singing it (still don't own their first album).

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all very weird, but I think my view of Steely Dan is the same as my view of Al Green as expressed on the other thread about him recently. I like 'em enough, but I could only actively claim to love...four songs? And they're all the hits pretty much, "Hey Nineteen," "Reeling in the Years" and all that -- songs I knew from growing up on the radio but never knew what they were until I picked up the box set for hypercheap. Sometimes I think the best bit of Dan ever was how the Super Furry Animals transmogrified a lyric for "The Man Don't Give a Fuck."

Older friend of mine at the UCI newspaper years back said that for his crew growing up Steely Dan were like XTC were for another time -- an odd bunch of studio boffins who didn't tour and created sometimes wonderfully impenetrable records that you could whistle and hum melodies from. I like that comparison.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 13 April 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I am your love slave, Ms. Rosen.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 13 April 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

...but XTC practically beg for your attention, which is why I never could stand them. Steely Dan is much more insinuating.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 14 April 2003 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Bought 'Showbiz Kids' the 2 CD best of thingy 2 days ago. It's great, they're great. I was wrong. I love them.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Sunday, 13 July 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

heh. I bought 'pretzel logic' LP as i found REAL cheap copy yesterday. will hear this soon.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 13 July 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

dude i got like 4 copies of pretzel logic i find them for like 25 cents all the time. why is that record so common!??!

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 13 July 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Brooklyn (Owes the Charmer Under Me)
Show Biz Kids
My Old School
Monkey in Your Soul
Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No.More
Doctor Wu
Any World (That I'm Welcome To)
Kid Charlemagne
Black Cow
Aja

-- TMFTML

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 13 July 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

that list OWNZ btw

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 13 July 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Is 'Any Major Dude..' the best thing ever? Or is the hot weather getting to me?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"Have you ever seen a squonk's tears? Well, look at mine."

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"The people on the street have all seen better times."

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I can *almost* see myself quoting SD lyrics at some point in the near future. I really can!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
rather than start a whole new thread, which is the best album ?
which is the one with all the shiny bright pop stuff on it ?

i like 'josie' and 'peg' and 'showbiz kids' and 'any major dude...'
hey i'm sure there was a thread about best dan lp's but i'm darned if i could find it.

piscesboy, Monday, 20 October 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I STILL like Steely Dan. It's been a funny old year.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Aja is best track-for-track, but all of them have lots to recommend. For me the one that bears the most frequent revisiting is Countdown to Ecstasy, but it's unbelievably dark.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

'countdown...' is unbelievably dark ?
really ? explain please !

piscesboy, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i think you should start with pretzel logic. its the poppiest.

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I have trouble listening to the two "new" ones all the way through, though for the life of me I can't put my finger on why. They sound very much like Aja and Goucho, both of which I like quite a lot. I think something may have happened to my attention span over the past 20 years or so.

The one I find most often on my turntable in the mornings after long nights of drinking is Katy Lied.

(Those two paragraphs have nothing to do with one another.)

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

no i agree. i cant listen to the two newest ones either. they are just shitty to me. the playing is good. i dont like gaucho much either. when i saw them earlier this year they played most of aja and pretty much ignored katy lied except for daddy dont live in that new york city.

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Pretzel Logic is the easiest to quickly digest I'd say, whereas starting with others may prove challenging at first

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
I never got around doing my POX

Any Major Dude
Deacon Blues
West of Hollywood
Through with Buzz
Dr. Wu
Aja
Night by Night
Almost Gothic
Everone's Gone to the Movies
The Fez

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
Who thought "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo" was a good idea?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
i'm having like a *major* major phase here.
i think it's cause i turned 30. am working my way thru the lp's and so far it's looking like :

only a fool would say that
night by night
showbiz kids
any major dude will tell you
dady don't live in that new york city no more
bad sneakers
peg
haitian divorce
brooklyn owes the charmer under me
dirty work

and i have NO IDEA what 'brooklyn owes the charmer under me' means.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

My Old School
Josie
Your Gold Teeth 2
Haitian Divorce
Kid Charlemagne
Monkey in Your Soul
Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
Barrytown
Peg
Hey Nineteen

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like Deacon Blue.

the bluefox, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a toss-up between "Peg" and "Kid Charlemagne" for me.

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you guys think of *any* modern analogue to Steely Dan? My roommate and I were just talking about this: what would it even mean for a band to resemble the Dan nowadays? Would it even be possible? Don't people ever get tired of unquestioningly valuing amateurism and non-technique?

Phoenix is approaching this, imo. I really get an updated Steely Dan vibe from them.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

subject to immediate revision:

My Old School
Only a Fool Would Say That
Barrytown
Hey Nineteen
Showbiz Kids
Razor Boy
Reelin' in the Years
Dirty Work
Boddhisattva
Any Major Dude Will Tell You

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't resist...

1. The Boston Rag
2. Rose Darling
3. Razor Boy
4. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
5. Dr. Wu
6. Barrytown
7. Rikki Don't Lose That Number
8. Dirty Work
9. Show Biz Kids
10. Night By Night

Bonus Track: Rebellion (Lies) by the Arcade Fire--sounds just like The Dan.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Do It Again
Show Biz Kids
Kid Charlemagne
Your Gold Teeth
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Green Earrings
Josie
Black Friday

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Very hard to narrow down...this list only scratches the surface of my love for this band...

1. Hey Nineteen (one of my favorite songs when I was 19; one of my favorite songs now that I'm just a couple of years younger than Donald Fagen was when he recorded it)
2. Time Out Of Mind
3. Kid Charlemagne
4. Barrytown
5. Peg (I love the vocal combination of Fagen and McDonald on this one)
6. My Old School (Had I not spent my undergrad years at Rice, I probably would have gone to William & Mary, so I've always identified with the parts about W&M)
7. Rose Darling
8. Pretzel Logic
9. Everyone's Gone To The Movies (High on the list of "Songs That We'll Never Hear Michael Jackson Cover")
10. Any World (That I'm Welcome To)

John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Pixeleen
Any Major Dude
Kid Charlemagne
Razor Boy
Doctor Wu
Everything Must Go
West of Hollywood
Deacon Blues
Your Gold Teeth
Babylon Sisters

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

What is the point of Steely Dan when I still have Sinatra records?

William Seward Burroughs, Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand the question.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Unless, maybe you're saying you don't have enough room on the "S" shelf in your record collection.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

My Old School
Peg
Barrytown
Midnight Cruiser (they must've been listening to Todd Rundgren when they wrote this one)
Boston Rag
Deacon Blues
Aja
Time Out of Mind
the one that goes 'Well I crossed my old man back in Oregon'
Dirty Work

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Does anyone else hear a Bob Dylan influence in 'Barrytown?' I guess it's mostly the lyrics and the vocal delivery, esp. during the lines 'Look at the clothes you wear / And the way you comb your hair.' The verses have this helter-skelter melody that really reminds me of 60's BD.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Barrytown was intentionally aping Bobby D.

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

They were huge Dylan fans. Can't Buy A Thrill is a lyric from "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry".

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
1 ~ Gaucho
2 ~ Peg
3 ~ Haitian Divorce
4 ~ Sign In Stranger
5 ~ Doctor Wu
6 ~ Bad Sneakers
7 ~ Barrytown
8 ~ My Old School
9 ~ The Boston Rag
10~ Dirty Work

57 7th (calstars), Sunday, 21 August 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

"home at last" is a "sexy high seas adventure" - yay!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Babylon Sisters
Any Major Dude
Pixeleen
Gaucho
Kid Charlemange
Razor Boy
The Boston Rag
Pretzel Logic
Doctor Wu
Everything Must Go

and, argh, Bad Sneakers and Third World Man.

derrick (derrick), Monday, 22 August 2005 05:25 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...
The awesome SD threads on here have made me re-listen to my albums. Here's what my top 10 looks like right now.

The Royal Scam (thanks, Dave Q)
Do It Again
Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Charlie Freak
Bodhisattva
My Old School
Peg
Bad Sneakers
Haitian Divorce
Dirty Work

(never heard Gaucho, except for "Hey Nineteen")

Patrick (Patrick), Sunday, 23 April 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

since they're playing the taj mahal (sweet!) on 8/26/06 here's my list based on highest play counts on iTunes. note that sometimes the songs weren't played the whole way through, so they didn't get a count notch. thus, i'd take a couple of these off: daddy don't live..., with a gun, caves..., and replace them with the fez, barrytown (the bridge is awesome, so sub that with my preference for bridge on "with a gun") and josie.

Pretzel Logic Steely Dan 126
Time Out of Mind Steely Dan 108
Rose Darling Steely Dan 102
Any Major Dude Steely Dan 102
Gaucho Steely Dan 88
With A Gun Steely Dan 82 (I think it's because of the bridge)
The Caves Of Altamira Steely Dan 80
Black Cow Steely Dan 77
Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More Steely Dan 74
FM Steely Dan 72

kevinod (odtron5000), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

The Caves Of Altamira yah man thats my shit right there!

city of gyros (chaki), Monday, 24 April 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

any major dude
black cow
the boston rag
king of the world
gold teeth
barrytown
parker's band
peg
dirty work
kid charlemagne

Zeno, Friday, 5 October 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

uptown, baby
uptown, baby
we gets down, baby
for the crown, baby

max r, Friday, 5 October 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Donald Fagen on the street earlier this week (on 61st and Madison Avenue). He looks old.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 5 October 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

he is old

Zeno, Friday, 5 October 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.steelydandictionary.com/

Zeno, Friday, 5 October 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I was playing some mu chords at band practice the other day. Sounds so good.

jaymc, Friday, 5 October 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone read this??

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51713V739EL._AA240_.jpg

Book Description
This is the story of Eddie Zittner, a 29-year-old New Yorker who is obsessed with the rock group Steely Dan. And his life is going nowhere. An aspiring writer, he hasn't written a word in months. His marriage is on the rocks. He's bouncing from one dead-end job to another. A series of personal crises force Eddie to confront his obsession and the other realities in his life.

baaderonixx, Friday, 5 October 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

isn't this about that guy from "knocked up"?

Zeno, Friday, 5 October 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

wow GLAMOUR PROFESSION is really something isn't it?

hadn't noticed before.

piscesx, Monday, 2 June 2008 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

The main character in that song: Marlo Stanfield, or more like Nino Brown? Hmmm.

Brut and charisma
Poured from the shadow where he stood
Looking good
He's a crowd pleasing man

:)

kenan, Monday, 2 June 2008 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

My Old School
Reelin in the Years
Boston Rag
Rikki
Dr Wu
Kid Charlemagne
Here at the Western World
Peg
Deacon Blues
FM

iago g., Tuesday, 3 June 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

Shit, I meant to add Mr. Sam instead of Here at Western World

iago g., Tuesday, 3 June 2008 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

revive

johnny hit and run paul lynde (get bent), Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:29 (thirteen years ago)

unpossible

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:30 (thirteen years ago)

Brut and charisma
Poured from the shadow where he stood

fav dan lyric quoted in this thread, so thread delivers

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:31 (thirteen years ago)

i wish "kulee baba" had made it to gaucho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtfDT9EEFwM

johnny hit and run paul lynde (get bent), Thursday, 21 February 2013 05:03 (thirteen years ago)

timely!

i just wrote the following about some of the band's songs:

http://walkingthelongmileshome.wordpress.com/

charlie h, Thursday, 21 February 2013 05:30 (thirteen years ago)

Aja
Any World
Bodhisattva
Doctor Wu
Hey Nineteen
Josie
Kid Charlemagne
Peg
Black Cow
Bad Sneakers

brimstead, Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Brut and charisma
Poured from the shadow where he stood

I thought he said "brooding charisma"!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 February 2013 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

good stuff charlie

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2013 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

Midnite Cruiser
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Everyone's Gone to the Movies
Home At Last
Barrytown
Pearl of the Quarter
Kid Charlemagne
Babylon Sisters
Dr. Wu
Deacon Blues

theStalePrince, Thursday, 21 February 2013 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

oh, and re the "could there be an analogue to the Dan in today's debased musical world? query upthread...well, I mean, not really, but my answer would be The Sea and Cake.

theStalePrince, Thursday, 21 February 2013 23:50 (thirteen years ago)

"Reelin' in the Years"
"Midnite Cruiser"
"King of the World"
"Rikki Don't Lose That Number"
"Pretzel Logic"
"Doctor Wu"
"Any World (That I'm Welcome To)"
"Sign in Stranger"

The eight I'm 100% sure of.

clemenza, Friday, 22 February 2013 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

King of the World
Babylon Sisters
My Old School
Haitian Divorce
Jack of Speed
This All Too Mobile Home
Reelin' In The Years
Night By Night
Home At Last
Any World (That I'm Welcome To)

some dude, Friday, 22 February 2013 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

no 'any major dude'?

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

that is one of my SD blind spots, have never especially liked it

some dude, Friday, 22 February 2013 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

not fond of that one either - feel like lyrically pretzel logic is not generally on the level of its neighbors

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:34 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it was the first SD album i bonded with but it feels kind of minor to me now

D4y0 (some dude), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

i feel like there are no minor SD albums in the original 7, but maybe that's bc each one of them has at some point been my favorite.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

oh they're all sacred texts for sure, i just meant relatively minor

D4y0 (some dude), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

wonder if I can even do this.

King of the World
Dr. Wu
Aja
Rose Darling
Jack of Speed
Do It Again
Your Gold Teeth
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Josie

That leaves out some I'd be very very sad to lose - "Bad Sneakers," "Reelin' in the Years" which is just such a marvel - all of Gaucho - "Barrytown." But I think I could live with the above

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

is there a stats guy in the house with time on his hands willing to work for free? would love to see a graphic representation of how people's POXes here play out in terms of which album gets the most representation, etc

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

In order:

Third World Man
The Boston Rag
Midnight Cruiser
Dr. Wu
Any Major Dude...
Black Friday
Gaucho
Deacon Blues
Godwhacker
With a Gun
King of the World

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

Boston Rag was on my "nearly" list

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

is there a stats guy in the house with time on his hands willing to work for free? would love to see a graphic representation of how people's POXes here play out in terms of which album gets the most representation, etc

― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:45 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmmm possibly

D4y0 (some dude), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

hey there's a steely dan poll coming up, only 20 or so more ILM polls to go through til we get there.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

kid charlemagne
dr. wu
rose darling
deacon blues
any major dude will tell you
home at last
bad sneakers
king of the world
babylon sisters
rikki don't lose that number

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

this is also basically impossible

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

shit...forgot "sign in stranger" too....and "any world"....and "caves of altimara"

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

and "here in the western world"

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

and all steely dan songs because they rule

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

will die during the dan ilm pool, an elaborate death on a mostly deserted island, they find me twelve years later most of my body having produced a new kind of a jewel

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2013 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ the scenario in "Third World Man"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 February 2013 01:29 (thirteen years ago)

p sure he goes crazy on a lawn and then dies in a bunker and the neighborhood watches but doesn't care enough

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2013 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

btw brad i never did thank you for being the biggest supporter of @steelydanlyrics - you always retweet me :)

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

it's the best possible of all twitters

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2013 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

it is maybe true that i don't know how to phrase things now that i'm a drunk guy

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2013 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

last i checked i was up over 650 followers, including -- unless i'm wrong -- fagen's twitter (and chuck klosterman)

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 02:18 (thirteen years ago)

it is maybe true that i don't know how to phrase things now that i'm a drunk guy

is this a steely dan lyric?

brimstead, Friday, 22 February 2013 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

lmao i was thinking the same thing

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 February 2013 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

Never knew "King of the World" was so loved--thought it was an oddball favourite of mine. Can't think of a more perfect soundtrack for the muck and mire of Watergate.

clemenza, Friday, 22 February 2013 04:55 (thirteen years ago)

Reelin' In The Years
The Fez
Peg
Deacon Blues
Any Major Dude
Brooklyn (Owes the Charmer Under Me)
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Haitian Divorce
My Old School
Kid Charlemange

sofatruck, Friday, 22 February 2013 05:01 (thirteen years ago)

Can you guys think of *any* modern analogue to Steely Dan? My roommate and I were just talking about this: what would it even mean for a band to resemble the Dan nowadays? Would it even be possible? Don't people ever get tired of unquestioningly valuing amateurism and non-technique?

Phoenix is approaching this, imo. I really get an updated Steely Dan vibe from them.

lol wut

sofatruck, Friday, 22 February 2013 05:03 (thirteen years ago)

Aja
Home At Last
Pretzel Logic
Third World Man
Doctor Wu
The Boston Rag
Babylon Sisters
Razor Boy
Dirty Work
My Old School

Euler, Friday, 22 February 2013 05:18 (thirteen years ago)

Never knew "King of the World" was so loved--thought it was an oddball favourite of mine. Can't think of a more perfect soundtrack for the muck and mire of Watergate.

― clemenza, Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i first got way into it on the Gold compilation, which for some reason sprinkles deep cuts like that and "Chain Lightening" in with the big hits.

D4y0 (some dude), Friday, 22 February 2013 05:25 (thirteen years ago)

is there a stats guy in the house with time on his hands willing to work for free? would love to see a graphic representation of how people's POXes here play out in terms of which album gets the most representation, etc

Can't believe I did this (skipped the post 1980 picks, sorry)...

Albums by POXes:

Katy Lied
Countdown to Ecstasy
Preztel Logic
Aja
Royal Scam
Can't Buy a Thrill
Gaucho

Albums by POXes per # of songs on album:

Countdown to Ecstasy
Aja
Katy Lied
Preztel Logic
Royal Scam
Gaucho
Can't Buy a Thrill

sofatruck, Friday, 22 February 2013 05:49 (thirteen years ago)

Pearl of the Quarter
Kid Charlemagne
Any Major Dude
Midnight Cruiser
Home at Last
Rose Darling
Sign in Stranger
Dirty Work
Dallas
Peg

Johnny Hotcox, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Whoa, "Dallas!"

J. Sam, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Beautiful song.

J. Sam, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

Black Cow
Kings
My Old School
Babylon Sisters
Gaucho
Night by Night
Kid Charlemagne
The Royal Scam
Gaslighting Abbie
Green Earrings

29 facepalms, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

Thank you Sodabox!! Interestingly to me, Albums by POXes per # of songs on album is my top three SD albums, I think in order (Aja and CTE bump back and forth for me)

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

Your Gold Teeth II
Your Gold Teeth I
Glamour Profession
Time Out of Mind
Green Earrings
Any Major Dude
Bad Sneakers
My Old School
Aja
Hey Nineteen

Great Ecstasy of the Woodborer Steiner (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

"glamour profession" is the best

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

But why can't I just have 'All of Gaucho' as a sing track choice :(

Great Ecstasy of the Woodborer Steiner (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

xpost mayyyybe my single favorite dan lyric.

Great Ecstasy of the Woodborer Steiner (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

mine too. my other single favorite dan lyric is "my rival"

the milk truck eased into my space
somebody screamed somewhere

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

Haha me too! Scar across face/hearing aid! Yet I had to leave it out of my POX for fear of underrepresenting the other LPs. Basically Gaucho ties with Marquee Moon, Hex Enduction Hour, Bringing It All Back Home and Golden Age of Wireless for all-time feature-length dizzying lyrical imagination.

Great Ecstasy of the Woodborer Steiner (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

' did you mean swag heathen? '

theStalePrince, Friday, 22 February 2013 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

"glamour profession" is the best

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson)

I'm no headphone fetishist but, man, my appreciation grew enormously after spending time with this one on a bus ride. So many instrumental parts yet no clutter.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 February 2013 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

Brad and Jon otm, "My Rival" is a pretty much flawless lyric (and underrated as a song as well). Total gem of economy.

bentelec, Friday, 22 February 2013 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

How dope is "Shanghai Comfidential"? It sounds like Wally Badarou with a little yellow magic orchestra flavor.

brimstead, Saturday, 23 February 2013 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

argh CoNFidential

brimstead, Saturday, 23 February 2013 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

my friend made an awesome "dan from 1993-2006" playlist on spotify

http://open.spotify.com/user/rend_it/playlist/0LDatHMkKkujGaC9SGJjFq

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

For some reason, I always imagine My Rival to be about Billy Joel.

Moodles, Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

obviously not on Spotify but i'm a fan of the '90s era live staple "West Side Story"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyREB7MmvZY

luaka boppa flame (some dude), Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Love "Yo-Yo," like "One Bad Apple," but venture forth at your peril:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDeVAF58jPg

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:02 (thirteen years ago)

World, I apologize for my part in the great chain of dissemination here.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

the comedy segment has you yearning for a return to the full-on assault against one the all-time great tunes, but then the assault is renewed and you yearn for the days of the unspeakable comedy segment

not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

glamour profession
babylon sisters
peg
hey nineteen
the second arrangement
black cow
reelin' in the years
aja
brooklyn (owes the charmer under me)
time out of mind

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 5 May 2014 07:04 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

aja
green earrings
haitian divorce
any major dude will tell you
glamour profession
deacon blues
the boston rag
josie
dirty work
everyone's gone to the movies

flappy bird, Sunday, 29 October 2017 06:00 (eight years ago)

Solid list

Moodles, Sunday, 29 October 2017 06:26 (eight years ago)

impossible but

jack of speed
third world man
king of the world
bad sneakers
the boston rag
aja
deacon blues
sign in stranger
your gold teeth ii
barrytown

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 29 October 2017 06:48 (eight years ago)

show biz kids
razor boy
king of the world
any major dude
bad sneakers
doctor wu
your gold teeth ii
peg
gaucho
glamour profession

clouds, Sunday, 29 October 2017 13:34 (eight years ago)

Aja
Night by Night
King of the World
Gaucho
Doctor Wu
Home at Last
My Old School
Bad Sneakers
Third World Man
Only a Fool Would Say That

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 October 2017 13:47 (eight years ago)

^^ totally different from my poll ballot from a couple years ago

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 October 2017 15:16 (eight years ago)

Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Bad Sneakers
Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Night by Night
Barrytown
Show Biz Kids
Dirty Work
Your Gold Teeth

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 29 October 2017 18:45 (eight years ago)


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