Primal Scream.

XTRMNTR = not better than Screamadelica, they can't be compared that way, rahter I'd say XTRMNTR is the flipside of Screamadelica, they go together, the alhpa & omega of the 90s ;)

Don't rate them before 'Loaded' though. And Give Out remains embarrasing save Jailbird. Just rediscovered the 'Jailbird' 12" which is really amazing. The Chemicals remix is shite but on the flipside you have a 10-minute Kris Needs remix that's almost exclusively built out of riffs with a bunch of echo's thrown in. And after that you get one of Andy Weatherall's weirdest mixes: dub chapter 3, 12 minutes of star-hopping bliss.

but its growing hopelessly out-dated

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yeah, but that's also the beauty of it. It's so of its time (that naif-psychonaut thing Tarden mentioned). I like it when albums date and get intertwined with good memories.

So am I the only one who thinks 'Swastika Eyes' is the shit?

Sounds to me as though all of you have some history with Gillespe & Co. that's coloring your assessment of his work.

I like the hippie jangle shite, it's the closest to wibbling twee that I will allow near my stereo. I love Screamadelica, it was a life-changing event for me, etc. etc. I won't listen to "Give Up" except to torture my neighbours with "Funky Jam" on endless repeat. Varnishing Point is an underrated classic, the album that slipped through the cracks. Everyone slagged off XTRMNTR for the same reasons that they slagged off Kid A - the whole "Bringing avant guard influences into the mainstream is hardly original" way of thinking. To which I reply with a shrug and a "so what?" Criticise it for "not being avante guarde" enough... fine, it's not supposed to be. I love it anyway.

Oh, and did I mention Bobby G is excessively good looking?

They bring in people cause it's what is best for the songs not the egos. Like Lou Reed and Velvet Underground getting Nico to sing songs, or Maureen Tucker...

Brillant brillant brillant band.

xtrmntr is complete punk rock. burns my head when i listen to it.

Pah. The only message I get from the scream's total recorded output is this:

"We own a cooler record collection than you"

fuck them.

Bobby G is so very very good looking, Norman!

Still doesn't stop me from loving Screamadelica, though.

Those are valid points about the scream, norman, but still, the reference points actually work. Bob's a magpie, for sure. Everyone's a prostitute, etc..etc...

But he samples rock and roll of the 20th century. I think that is the ethnos that was brought out after screamadelica. You can say...Ummm....but it's just all done before. But it's dunno..very tired and moaning after drunken argument in club but 'a melting point/pot' *posh voice* of sampling.

When I was younger, Primal Scream was the first band that I had gotten into, loved, obsessed, na'er do wrong....

But the reference points, just broadened the musical knowledge and teh desire to hear more.

I mean, Soup Dragons, case in point, they do the same thing but they get it wrong.

Me: Uuuuurrrghhhh....shudder uuuunnggghhhh....

Cor, Kate.....

this< /a> is what I call good-looking. However, this certainly isn't.

What d'you think? :)

Doompatrol? Any opinions to offer? Is bbby a htty?

x0x0

I've always thought that bobby looked really cool. Dodgy around give up but don't give out...but the jesus and mary chain bobby, yes, screamadelic bobby, stonestarchild....

I'm sorry Norman, can't budge. Must admit, I love primal scream, the only band that I will buy cd singles for...

ps. getting some peter hammill tonight. tell you what i think about a week from now...

http://www.malcolm-mcdowell.com/Gallery/Wallpaper/wp10.jpg

And paul, it's not that it's been "done before". I don't actually care if it's been done before. It's that they, or more precisely BBBY, are always banging on in the musick press abt how they're a reflection of their ultra-cool influences, but they never get close

xoxo

By the way, Spirit...didnt like.....arrgghh.....

the drum and bass covers of garage rock classics like 96 tears...how can you go wrong?

this is the link to BBBY I screwed up.

Paul - which spirit album did y'get???

xoxo

Not rock and roll nonsense. They were the first band to make me BELIEVE in rock and roll! Defined rock and roll for me and loads of other people.........

primalscream/stoneroses/happymondays

They made it sexy again!

They made it sexy again!

Good lord, I'm agreeing with Doompatrol. Somebody call the doctor. Yes, they made it sexy again. But this is Bobby G we are talking about, he could make being a LIBRARIAN sexy again.

It's called BEAUTY!!!!! Either you have it or you don't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i havent lived with it enough to give an honest opinion...will tell you later on.

(I'm talking about spirit)..

primal scream = rock and roll.

it's the manifesto.........

so many highlights, that I can never put them in a group other than CLASSIC. The closest would have been Richard Ashcroft up to A Northern Soul. But the other two, would have to be, Super Furry Animals and Spiritualized as the two other bands that I can believe in...

But DG (the man who hated doompatrol)...it's not 1969 for the Scream. It's the present. It's the future. It's the past. It's everything.

One listen to the scream theme Screamadelica will make anyone dance.

It's not silly it's the scream spirit, man o man.

Plus he could take Spidey. Look at his action with the mic stand (classic iggy by the way)...

anyways, what about andrew innes, electronic music for the cinema. He's the man with the ideas!

Bobby/Ned slash fiction???

One of the funniest things I've ever heard was a story about when Bobby decided to introduce the much-vaunted 'dance element' to their records. Apparently it caused all sorts of soul-searching in the band, culminating in one member bursting into tears and shouting about 'joining forces with everything we've ever fought against'.

One question: you know when people call them 'the scream'? Is that a joke?

SOunds like George Michael meets Suicide circa 1990.

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Yeah, that's why it's a classic. :)

After the gig I wandered backstage looking for the Scream's dressing room. I found it easily, and then I listened at the door and heard their gorgeous Scottish accents inside. I was listening for about ten minutes before I felt a tap on my shoulder.

It was their Bass Player, Mani. He asked me if I'd like to be able to hear them more clearly. I nodded my head but instead of opening the door for me he pushed me against the wall opposite.

He moved his hands all over my body still fully clothed. Our breathing started getting heavier. Then he lifted up my T-shirt and my bra and started stroking my breasts. He pressed his hands down harder and my breathing became faster. He put his head in front of my breasts and started licking the tips. They began to harden.

Just them the dressing room door opened and Bobby Gillespie walked out and stopped and stared at what he saw. "Wouldn't you rather do that inside, Mani?" He asked Mani. Mani took my hand and led me inside the dressing room. Bobby followed behind.

Inside the dressing room were the other members: Duffy, Throb and Innes. They all looked at me holding Mani's hand. I noticed I still had my T-shirt and bra lifted up and they all could see my breasts.

My nipples were softening now. They all looked as though they wanted me badly. Mani asked me to lie on a double mattress on the floor. I took all my clothes off first. My underwear seemed to disappear very quickly. It was hard to tell where it went as they were all gathered around it. There was a scuffle for my underwear then they moved nearer me and my underwear had gone. I couldn't tell which one of the cheeky Scotsmen had my underwear. I was lying on my back on the mattress. I wondered who would make the first move. Bobby did.

He spoke to me paying me compliments on my body. He knew I enjoyed hearing his voice. He looked deep into my eyes and then planted a small kiss on my lips. He moved away as if he had enough already...then he came back again. He put one of his big hands on my breasts.

He started moving the hand on my breast in a circular motion. I smiled at him. He smiled back at me... but it wasn't just a normal smile... it was a warm sexy smile. His eyes looked so beautiful when he smiled. I couldn't take my eyes off his beautiful face. The other members were becoming impatient. Innes pushed Bobby out of the way. I made a suggestion of something that would please me. Innes pushed Bobby onto the floor and started undressing him. He rubbed his hands all over Bobby's nakedness. He took Bobby's cock in his big hands and started stroking it gently. Then he put it into his mouth and sucked it. It was really turning Bobby on. While I was watching standing up now, I suddenly felt a hand on my back. The hand went and then I felt a hard cock entering me from behind. I didn't know who's it was...

Tell that to c-man.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,1756657,00.html

I dunno, I'm seeing a promising new trent for ILX thread revivals here.

that mani though, what a cad.

Donald, Where's Your Troosers?

I was meaning to buy that OMM, after I saw the cover - "look at me, I am the new syd barret damo suzuki mick jagger roky erikson gram parsons" for the rofflez. But, seeing as it's written by (ugh) james brown, I'm glad I didn't bother.

It was their Bass Player, Mani

...that well known Scotsman with the gorgeous Scottish accent

Suggestions:

*meaningful pause*

"Suicide Sally And Johnny Guitar."

*even more meaningful pause*

Mr Gillespie clearly sees himself as this:
http://www.gerardmalanga.com/hires/0026.jpg

but in reality is far closer to this:
http://www.blackandwhitepublishing.com/biography/simplydevine/simplydevinebig.jpg

*meaningful pause*

"Suicide Sally And Johnny Guitar."

*even more meaningful pause*

Mr Gillespie clearly sees himself as this:
http://www.gerardmalanga.com/hires/0026.jpg

but in reality is far closer to this:
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Maybe they could work on this for their live shows though.

"Hart and I sit at the back and chat about models and opiates, and which is more likely to do you in quicker."

I also question whether Bobby Gillespie ever played with the Pastels. I've never heard of that before and there's so much fact bending in the article that I doubt it's true.

When computers came out, he [Andrew Innes] got one straight away and learnt how to work them. Oasis call him "Brains".

OMG.

I also got a ZX Spectrum and learned to load Manic Miner. Unless he had a mainframe that was the size of a room--in which case, kudos.

New album Beautiful Future out on July 21st. Produced by Bjorn out of Peter Bjorn and John, who says: "It's much more pop and kraut than earlier, so it fits well with me. It sounds a bit like Alan Vega and Suicide."

It should at least be better than Riot City Blues, then.

It sounds a bit like Alan Vega and Suicide

Who'd have thocht it?

That can't be hard, to be fair.

Well, fair's fair, since Bobby influenced Suicide in the first place when they saw him put his hand too close to the bunsen burner in chemistry class and he screeched and stamped his foot rhythmically.

Bobby also wrote the original lyrics to their most famous tune, "Frank Skerrett Teardrop."

Is RCB actually their least-liked (I would say worst, but that doesn't really seem to be the right word to use when describing the Scream) album? I've not actually listened to the second album in a long time, but it at least has I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have on it. Give Out has its moments too. But I listened to RCB once and I've never felt any need to go near it again (even for a pound in Fopp).

I didn't know they were playing at Meltdown either, with the MC5 apparently.

Bobby gave MC5 their name of course. He originally suggested they call themselves the Jack McLaughlin 5, in honour of the host of STV's popular "Thingummyjig" show (the self-styled "Laird o' Coocaddens"); the name was shortened over the years to MC5

Little Death is quite good, as I recall. Other than that, total bollocks. AMG rates it higher than Evil Heat. Hmmm. Evil Heat is just 'meh'. RCB is proper shit.

I love the idea of a "Mc5."

Don't forget that the Velvets were inspired by a poem wee Boab wrote in his second year primary school class though he later got the strap when the teacher found out he'd nicked it from Francie and Josie:

"Ye've nivver lived unless ye've bin oan the Velvet Underground"

they saw him put his hand too close to the bunsen burner in chemistry class and he screeched and stamped his foot rhythmically.

Snicker.

"Give Out but Don't Give Up" is the only one I regularly go back to. It will be interesting to hear what they do with the young folk.

Make Primal Scream History

i like the 2nd primals album a lot. its better than rcb, sfg and dont...

http://www.myfreedownload.co.uk/primalscream

Urban Guerilla. Primal Scream are now officially 100% embarrassing.

doesn't guerrilla have, erm, two "r"s? or are SFA wrong?

Maybe Hawkwind spelled it that way, that's obviously where Blobby stole it from

Results 1 - 10 of about 14,800,000 for guerrilla. (0.19 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,600,000 for guerilla. (0.22 seconds)

I mean it's clearly "Guerrilla"; do things like "La Guere" or "Roger Guerero" ring true? Exactly.

Looks wrong somehow with two "R"s, though.

I'd d/l it for the lulz but I don't fancy giving them my email address.

http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/urban.jpg

http://www.last.fm/music/Hawkwind/_/Urban+Guerilla

Is it a cover of this? That wd be totally lulzy if so.

http://www.myfreedownload.co.uk/primalscream

Urban Guerilla. Primal Scream are now officially 100% embarrassing.

-- Scik Mouthy, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:07 (10 hours ago) Link

Haven't they been officially embarrassing for a couple of years now?

heh. heh. heh. heh.

THE RECORD, TITLED ’BEAUTIFUL FUTURE’, IS OUT JULY 21ST, AND FEATURES TRACKS PRODUCED BY, AMONGST OTHERS, BJORN YTTLING (PETER, BJORN AND JOHN) AND PAUL EPWORTH (BLOC PARTY).

?!??!?!! WHY WHY WHY

Here's a Hawkwind version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDbLXwQCzo
although it seems they have a few versions?

Damn.

Damn that Hawkwind track kicks ass.

Unfortunately it seems ripe for a Scream cover, so I bet that is what's going on. I say that as someone who really likes PS about 60% of the time. But that other 40%? Who would've thought it possible to have such a love/hate relationship with the output of a single band, as I and many others seem to with them. But as much as I dig tracks up to and including much of Evil Heat, I was really hoping that after the latest gratuitous round of trad (fuck fuck fuck their faux Stones blooze rock, just fucking piss on it) that they'd move past the tired MC5, neo-white-panther schtick and get back to the whole drugs/beats/killer grooves method of course (I'll take that in the angry electro-rock and/or the sunny hedonism variety, thanks).

Well that's that, then. Nice knowing you Bobby. I've given you many chances, and at times you've rewarded my patience -- but nobody ever really took you seriously as a freedom-fighter, and what started out as a mildly endearing phase in your cycle of cartoonish poses has become obnoxious and depressing. It was fun while it lasted, but I'm officially off the Scream bus.

Anyone else going to the neo and non-neo-White Panther knees-up at the RFH tonight? Anyone want to laugh at me for going? I am looking forward to it.

I do not like the mockney cockney accent on Urban Guerrilla, or the reference to suicide bombers.

Does anyone know who is doing MC5 vocals these days?

Does anyone know who is doing MC5 vocals these days?

Wayne Kramer was on vocal duties mostly when I saw them in Camden a couple of years back. There were also guest spots with Mark Arm and that women from the Bellrays.

Thank you.

thanks for posting this Nick, though i'm a week late. the last album was so bad that i will have a wait and see approach to Beautiful Future. always thought a new album by these guys would be an event, but not so much anymore.

MC5 use different lineups in different countries/shows - the Australian tour had Arm and Evan Dando as singers and Deniz Tek on 2nd gtr.

i bought the last album but never actually listened to it in full... just the random track on shuffle here and there.

thoughts on Beautiful Future?

won't be able to hear until tomorrow.

It's the worst album that I've heard all year. Tired, lazy, cliched, half-finished, risible, boring. A clutch of tiny little ideas stretched to breaking point. (And I really liked "Country Girl", so this comes as a big disappointment.)

I have no desire to hear this at all.

the only version thats been kicking around supposedly on mp3 version has been tracks with a 30 second loop stretching the songs out to full length. Is the full version around now?

i am still -- insanely, perhaps -- holding out some hope for this.

I maintain the only really decent thing of Primal Scream is Screamadelica. End of story.

*Bimble mumbles under his breath* *talentless git who just happened to be good friends with Alan McGee* cough cough

My brane still says XTRMNTR is awesome and the best thing they've ever done, but I've not got it out in ages so it might not hold up now.

Apart from two or three songs, it doesn't. Screamadelica does, though.

"Can't go back, I can't go back."

It says something when Gillespie is reduced to ripping off old BMX Bandits lyrics.

Hahahah! Wow, man. I barely know BMX Bandits. That's an interesting gap in my musical knowledge I should probably try to correct.

Just like recently when I finally tried to listen to some Fuzzbox songs aside from their track on C86. I mean you know...the girl band, right? We've Got A Fuzzbox And We're Gonna Use It. Man, those were the days.

XTRMNTR is still awesome.

i'm with nate: it's less awesome than it was in the late nineties. it's the best thing they did, by far, but i listened to it a few months ago (and posted somewhere about it: maybe on this very thread?) and thought, hmm, this is not the ball-crushing behemoth i remember.

I have no desire to hear this at all.

me neither but i still rep for some of Evil Heat

XTRMNTR only came out in Jan/Feb 2000.

I really like "Can't Go Back". If the rest of the album's in that vein, I'll be happy. But I'm fully prepared for disappointment.

(Full disclosure. I like: Vanishing Point, XTRMNTR, Evil Heat. I like about 50% of: Screamadelica. Oh and the Dixie-Narco EP's good. I hate: everything else.)

2nd primal scream album is underrated

Vanishing Point is my fave, although I haven't heard an awful lot other than that and Screamadelica.

XTRMNTR only came out in Jan/Feb 2000

wau? i associate it vividly with a very specific time and place in my life, which i'd swear blind was pre-millennial 1999.

<googles, thinks, ponders>

ah, hang on. i got a promo. so although it's obviously later than i thought, i *was* listening to this before the millennium. good. i'm not losing my mind.

the only version thats been kicking around supposedly on mp3 version has been tracks with a 30 second loop stretching the songs out to full length.

uh oh.

this, er, might have been the version that...

...oh, it just doesn't bear thinking about.

a ha ha ha ha.

haha
with bobbys usual repetitive lyrics its probably hard to notice its just a loop.
But I think it's better to wait til a proper rip is out (i know I want to hear it before I buy it after the last album)

Hey, we've all done it.

Haven't we.

http://a0.vox.com/6a00c2251ce3f4f21900e398f379e80004-320pi

http://troubled-diva.com/themanwho.jpg

I got a d/l of "Run" Snow patrol, which was just the first line of the song repeated for 3 mins until it cut. I did think wow how intense in an indie way, until I heard the actual single...

Actually, on UniChall last night, one question referred to the HM Bateman cartoons, and "which three words" were his 'signature' cartoon captions..

"The Man Who"

Which explains that Travis album, all these years later.

I just hope the 30 second loops version isnt better than the proper.

"Sides two and four consist entirely of single tones maintained throughout, presumably produced electronically. This might sound arid, to say the least, but in fact constant listening reveals a curious point: the pitch of the tone alters frequently, but only by micro-tones or, at most, a semi-tone. This oscillation produces an almost subliminal, uneven 'beat' which maintains interest."

that travis record was disgrace, i bort it and took back to shopp ask them where is convoy gb and snooker loopie. he is imposters looks nothing like hairy monstar.

sides two and four consist entirely of single tones maintained throughout

my favourite music-hackery story ever, i think.

I just hope the 30 second loops version isnt better than the proper

i fear it will be.

"DEAR RICHARD THANK YOU FOR YOUR FANTASTIC REVIEW ON OUR WEDDING ALBUM INCLUDING C-AND-D SIDES STOP WE ARE CONSIDERING IT FOR OUR NEXT RELEASE STOP MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING THAT THEY ARE THE BEST SIDES STOP WE BOTH FEEL THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A CRITIC TOPPED THE ARTIST STOP WE ARE NOT JOKING STOP LOVE AND PEACE STOP JOHN AND YOKO LENNON"

Still absolutely the worst band ever.

As the person who gave M t-d the 30 second loop version I must add my shame and apologies before I delete the relevant files. Must confess that I'd listened to the album twice in the background and not noticed, but I was a bit confused when I checked out the supposed highlight 'Over and Over' which is a duet with Linda Thompson and couldn't hear her at all. Obviously she doesn't appear in the first thirty seconds...

I maintain the only really decent thing of Primal Scream is Screamadelica. End of story.

Yes!

Why does XTRMNTR get such props? It sounds like a parody record (Shields remix aside).

what's wrong with parody?

I love HM Bateman. Primal Scream, I can take or leave, though was pleasantly impressed by them on Johnny Ross last Friday night.

XTRMNTR still sounds like a dope pop album to me. I think it sounds different stateside where you don't get any bullshit promo for this band unless you seek it out---from what I gather, the band is pretty overbearing.

The lyrics on XTRMNTR make Rik from The Young Ones look like Friedrich Engels.

SYPHILITIC SWASTIKA
SHOOT IT INTO THE SUN
HIGHER THAN THE SICK SICK SUN
FUCK PARALYTIC DESTROY
I LOST MY GIRL TO A NAZI BOY

So Beautiful Future is rubbish, right? I've not heard it yet but a five-star OMM review is surely a good indicator... Anyway what do people think of the Andy Weatherall remix of Uptown? It's the best thing I've heard in ages...

Weatherall's Uptown remix is fantastic, and the album is not. It spurts to life in a couple of spots, but there isn't much to recommend it.

on a first listen, this is underwhelming as fuck. "glory of love" is OK once but THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS is taking the piss.

it sounds like an album without any balls. none at all. not even one really malformed one.

^ OTM. It's not so much that the album commits any musical crimes, but that it fails to engage on any level at all.

Top Tory broadsheet music writer I, ALEXIS likes it not (he does have a point though).

Point? I think he's spot on!

1) Screamadelica is their most celebrated album.

2) The album with the least singing/lyrical content from BGill is....

The crass Crass remark suggests that he'd think the same no matter who sung or wrote these sentiments or how they were performed or sung. Socialism is so irritating and unsexy, darlings...

Tim Burgess was repping Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

I mean:

Tim Burgess was repping, as a rapper would say, Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

Ah yes, non-tax paying American citizen Tim Burgess...

i like that guardian review a lot.

can i just say re tim burgess : umm wtf is with the new haircut ?
just looks soo wrong.

Petridis so read the ILX reaction to his review of whatever the last Primal Scream record was called. I remember people posting "omg *obviously* he thinks its shit even if he isn't saying so" and "has any band ever had such a free pass from the music press as Primal Scream?"

He hates us but can't live without us.

Do they get a free pass from the music press?

(Take yr point about the Crass mention)

Burgess' haircut is officially the worst haircut since John Mills in Hobson's Choice.

Hisa new haircut is coz he is hanging out at The Old Blue Last w/The Horrors and etc and is having a mid-life crisis of relevancy.

wig morelike.

Anyway, Bobby invented the commune notion which Crass later adopted when he put some string around his pram on a day out at Bothwell Castle, opened a tin of cold baked beans and said ye cannae come in.

Hahahahah

Do they get a free pass from the music press?

of course they do! they're hailed as this swaggering bunch of spirit-of-rock hedonists, who -- when they weren't busy ROCKING or LIVING ON THE EDGE -- invented THE 1990s AS WE KNOW IT, etc. when was the last time you saw a piece saying: "fucking hell, these increasingly irrelevant old tools should swivel?"

last time? Upthread, probably.

first time? Hmmm......

(Well, it was "Give out but" obv)

It works for them though - Primal Scream manage to appear second on the bill at every festival despite drawing a modest crowd each time and not really being that popular.

The low point of the album has to be their cover of Hawkwind's 'Urban Guerilla'. This was mildly embarrassing when Hawkwind wrote it (35 years ago, if memory serves, I bought a copy because it was kind of notorious). Now it's seriously embarrassing.

The Hawkwind original is great! NEVER wanna hear the Primal Scream version.

But Bobby wrote the song especially for Hawkwind after he'd watched the Magilla Gorilla cartoon on the Glen Michael Cavalcade. He wasn't too chuffed when they got the spelling wrong.

That petridis review is pretty decent, eh? He's OTM about a bunch of stuff that's annoying about them.

First negative review I've read of one of their albums in a mainstream publication since their second album. There's got to have been some extra-musical shenanigans going on behind the scenes there.

he is, as a rapper would say, all up in your grill

i know it's the Guardian but srsly, time to stop doing this

Don't recall too many rave reviews for Don't Give Up, Peter Gabriel And Kate Bush or whatever their 1994 album was called.

That album should have got a post-Lee Hazlewood review of "give up".

as a rapper would say

Studio albums
Sonic Flower Groove (1987)
Primal Scream (1989)
Screamadelica (1991)
Give Out But Don't Give Up (1994)
Vanishing Point (1997)
XTRMNTR (2000)
Evil Heat (2002)
Riot City Blues (2006)
Beautiful Future (2008)

As a rapper would say: “He’s one of the best that did it.”

i don't get this one

stevem: http://www.mp3lyrics.org/x/xzibit/double-time/

Don't recall too many rave reviews for Don't Give Up, Peter Gabriel And Kate Bush or whatever their 1994 album was called.

-- Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:24 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I don't recall too many raves for that one either, but I don't recall any slagoffs (and it was a shit album) and I do recall a lot of scribes making excuses for them over it.

Petridish should get a two-month grace period from ILX slagging for that review, the rapper line is the only cringer

To be fair, there are shit bits in Islington, but Bobby G doesn't live in one of those.

Don't recall too many rave reviews for Don't Give Up, Peter Gabriel And Kate Bush or whatever their 1994 album was called.

Think Select gave it 5/5 originally and Q gave it 4/5 (thats not saying a lot tho).

To be fair, there are shit bits in Islington, but Bobby G doesn't live in one of those.

I used to walk past him on the way to work when he was taking his kid to school. Son always looked spick and span with his blazer, cap and satchel. Dad always looked like shit.

despite its lack of nads, i'm starting to like little bits of this.

sorry, everyone.

its a lot better than the last one

I give it six out of ten.

sounds about right

I used to walk past him on the way to work when he was taking his kid to school. Son always looked spick and span with his blazer, cap and satchel. Dad always looked like shit.

-- Discordian, Friday, 18 July 2008 14:54 (4 days ago) Bookmark Link

Ma Gillespie: "Now come on Boaby, ye've got tae make a good impression on yir first day at school. Put yir tie on and dae up yir top shirt button?"
Bob: "Mammy, it's too tight!"
Passing Archie Shepp: "I've just had an idea..."

-- Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 21 July 2008 09:59 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Think Select gave it 5/5 originally and Q gave it 4/5 (thats not saying a lot tho).

Select did give it 5/5.

I listened to XTRMNTR over the weekend and ... well, it was underwhelming compared to what I remember it as (even as late as 2004, I still thought it was the shit, but then again, a lot of the stuff I liked from 2000-2004 has gone out of favour with me lately).

Black out the windows, sound the alarm and take cover… Primal Scream are set to rampage through the UK this winter as headliners of the notoriously anarchic NME Rock ‘N’ Roll Riot Tour!

Starting in Oxford on November 20th, Scotland’s favourite sons will be blowing up venues throughout country on their 16 date extravaganza, culminating in a historic homecoming date at Glasgow’s SECC on December 13th.

Front man Bobby Gillespie said: “We're so happy to be doing this tour because we can rock and we can have a riot. Right now we're playing better than ever, we're having a great time, we're having a ball. When people come to the show they’re really gonna get their money’s worth!”

The tour, which has famously given a leg up to the likes of the Kaiser Chiefs, The Enemy and Razorlight is set to round off an already extraordinary year for the band who played a triumphant headline set at T in the Park last month, giving music lovers a taste of the white knuckle ride they can expect from the forthcoming tour.

Fans were also treated to a taste of new material from the Primal’s ninth studio album, out now on B-Unique. ‘Beautiful Future’, which debuted in the UK top ten this week, was produced by Björn Yttling [Peter, Björn and John] and Paul Epworth (Bloc Party) and features contributions from some of the music world’s most eclectic talent including CSS’s Lovefoxxx and Josh Homme (Queens of the Stone Age)

Conor McNicholas, NME Editor, said: “The NME Rock N Roll Riot Tour has found a killer headliner with Primal Scream. Their classic-laden back catalogue encompasses everything from dancefloor euphoria and Rolling Stones raunch to electronic punk, but it’s the devastating laser-guided pop of their new album ‘Beautiful Future’ we’re looking forward to most. This is shaping up to be an amazing tour. Bobby Gillespie has always described his band’s output as being ‘high energy rock’n’roll’. Come and see just how right he is.”

This is a good press release when you read it in a Pathe newsreader voice

'blowing up venues throughout country'

Ya couldnae blow up a balloon, ya feckin' gobshite

Bobby Gillespie has always described his band’s output as being ‘high energy rock’n’roll’.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/music/sites/shakinstevens/images/ecards/shakin_stevens02.jpg

Ah yes, true rocker and proper socialist Shakin' Stevens!

Could teach wee Bobby a thing or two!

I was flipping through The Clash magazine which belatedly reviewed Beautiful Future and gave it 4 stars and called them the greatest band on the planet. Ha ha! I listened to it again last night and it's still a letdown, though I do like "Uptown." Evil Heat was a fun album. I didn't think it would have been difficult for them to match, but apparently it was. Still, if they played a reasonably sized (not too big) venue I'd go see 'em.

Yes, I'd see them too. Doubt they'll be back to Texas anytime soon, though. I'll pick up the new album when I come across it for $5 used, not going to seek it out though. It's up to fate as to when I am inevitably disappointed a bit.

I've got a couple of tickets to sell for their gig at the SECC in Glasgow on 13th December, if anyone wants them? Face value or thereabouts, webmail me if you want them plz.

I'll let Marcello know

Metro sent out tons of free tickets to last night's show. I was surprised they had trouble selling the show. Don't they play big stadiums and festivals in the UK? It was good, a nice sampling from most of their albums. My favorite moments were probably from XTRMTR. They made heavy usage of their green laser. The band is always kind of ridiculous teetering on the edge of Spinal Tap territory, as it should be. I noticed the volume kept increasing to the point that even with my earplugs I was retreating further back.

I walked out of their show mid-way through (I was really only there to see BJM). As great as Mani is, I couldn't sit through that horrid Guitar Center guitar jackoffery the new guy was playing.

I caught them a few times while they were touring for XTRMTR & they absolutely killed. That was when they had Shields on the team. I have zero interest in seeing them at this point (but would probably go if given free tix).

yeah they were great with Shields

‘Screamadelica’
Primal Scream’s classic re-issued for its 20th Anniversary
March 7th in Collector’s and Deluxe Editions

'Screamadelica' is one of this era's most beautiful, far-reaching pieces of musical adventure…pretty much a perfect album” NME 1991

Primal Scream to release a newly re-mastered version of Screamadelica to celebrate the 20th anniversary of their genre-defining, groundbreaking masterpiece.

To mark the 20th anniversary of this landmark record, the band have made a new cut of the album with the help of their longtime friend and occasional collaborator, Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine.

Since its release in September 1991, the inaugural Mercury Prize winning record has influenced countless bands and artists, been widely acclaimed by critics as one of the defining records of the 1990s and as one of the most inventive albums of it’s generation- the album had a huge effect on 90s popular culture, bringing acid house and rock n roll to a unified mainstream audience that had until that point been disparate and underground.

The Collector’s Edition of Screamadelica will comprise four fully remastered CDs and a heavyweight gatefold double LP, including a new cut of the original album as well as the previously unreleased ‘Live in L.A., 1991’ album, a CD of original remixes by Andrew Weatherall , The Orb and others, along with a re-mastered version of top 10 hit EP, ‘Dixie Narco’.

There will also be a 30 minute documentary DVD: ‘The Making Of Screamadelica’, documenting the album track by track, plus bonus content from the original Screamadelica VHS, accompanied by a 50 page commemorative bound book featuring interviews with the band, unseen images, and notes on the Story Of Screamadelica by ‘Loaded’ magazine founder James Brown.

The Collector’s Edition boxset will also include a 12” slipmat featuring the original iconic sleeve design by the late artist Paul Cannell, a Primal Scream replica tour t-shirt (by Worn By) and 5 x 7” art cards.

Screamadelica – The Collector’s Edition’ will comprise:

CD1: Re-Mastered album (Re-mastered by Primal Scream & Kevin Shields)
1. Movin’ On Up
2. Slip Inside This House
3. Don’t Fight It, Feel It
4. Higher Than The Sun
5. Inner Flight
6. Come Together
7. Loaded
8. Damaged
9. I’m Comin’ Down
10. Higher Than The Sun (A Dub Symphony In Two Parts)
11. Shine Like Stars

CD2: Live In L.A., 1992

CD3: Original Mixes

Loaded
1. Farley Mix 7” (5:59)
2. Loaded 7” (4:19)

Come Together
3. Farley 7” (4:23)
4. 7” Mix (Wetherall (4:45)
5. Terry Farley Extended 12” Mix (08:02)
6. Hypnotone Brain machine Mix (5:14)
7. BBG Mix (6:27)

Higher Than The Sun
8. Higher Than The Orb (5:00)
9. Higher Than The Sun 12” (6:43 )
10. American Spring Mix (6:20)

Don’t Fight It
11. 7” Edit (4:10)
12. Graham Massey Mix (4:53)
13. Scat Mix(8:07)
14. High, High, High (Massey) (5:54)

Bonus
15. I’m Losing More Than I Ever Had (4:48)
16. Ramblin Rose (2:27)

CD4: The Dixie Narco EP (Re-mastered)
1. ‘Movin’ On Up’
2. ‘Stone My Soul’
3. ‘Carry Me Home’
4. ‘Screamadelica’

LP1 & 2: Re-Mastered album – Gatefold 2LP
A1 ‘Movin’ On Up’
A2 ‘Slip Inside This House’
A3 ‘Don’t Fight It, Feel It’

B1 ‘Higher Than The Sun’
B2 ‘Inner Flight’
B3 ‘Come Together’

C1 ‘Loaded’
C2 ‘Damaged’
C3 ‘I’m Comin’ Down’

D1 ‘Higher Than The Sun (A Dub Symphony in Two Parts)’
D2 ‘Shine Like Stars’

DVD: Classic Album documentary
‘The Making Of Screamadelica’ – 30 mins

BONUS
1. ‘Screamadelica’
2. ‘Movin’ On Up’
3. ‘Slip Inside This House’
4. ‘Don’t Fight It, Feel It’
5. ‘Higher Than The Sun’
6. ‘Come Together’
7. ‘Damaged’
8. ‘Loaded’
9. ‘Shine Like Stars’
10. ‘Inner Flight’

EXTRA
Original Tour T-shirt replicated by Worn By (Size L)
50 Page Book – The Story Of Screamadelica told by Bobby, Andrew and James Brown
12” DJ Slip Mat
4 x 7” Art Cards (original Paul cannel Designs)
1 x 7” Perforated stamp style art card

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... with the help of their longtime friend and occasional collaborator, Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine.

It'll never happen...

Andy Weatherall on 6Music last Sunday, on the music that inspired Screamadelica. Every track was a corker, far better than anything on the album, of course: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00w4gsf.

Well worth a listen on the i-player

Good lord, that's even more sprawling than the Stone Roses boxset. I might pick it up anyway. Yikes.

For those dismissing the first two PS albums; at least track down the song "Imperial"...it's a classic. Most of the rest is pretty bad though.

Oh, we loved those first few b-sides.

Can — Mother Earth. ???

kinda lame that there's nothing previously unreleased. I'll be skippin this.

how is there no acid house on the Weatherall 6mix? certainly house/techno was an inspiration for the album. seems like bullshit to me.

kinda lame that there's nothing previously unreleased. I'll be skippin this.

The entire live CD is previously unreleased, the documentary is previously unreleased, the book is previously unreleased, and the Screamdelica VHS has been OOP for 18 years. (And I've never heard that BBG mix or the two Massey ones.)

Plus the remaster is previously unreleased, of course.

$82 a ticket to see the playing-Screamdelica-in-full show in Sydney in January, btw.

yeah I meant the music. the mixes are all from singles aren't they?

don't really care about the live CD, can't imagine they were a decent live band at this stage (they were pretty great on the XTRMNTR tour tho)

It's funny that they looked so shambolic doing "Loaded" on TOTP back in, and nowadays that's the look that the backing band for Take That seem to attempt.

don't really care about the live CD

How dare you not care about an aural document of a show I was at. (Okay so I'm biased.)

full Screamadelica london show from last night here http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00w4kck

kind of think a more interesting thing for the box would be the 'original pre-weatherall mixes' of the tracks. like, they put out the original 'higher than the sun' and (iirc) 'come together' as b-sides at one point.

I don't think I've heard the "original" Come Together, only the Farley mixes. At the Olympia gig last night they started with the Weatherall, segued into the Farley and ended on the Weatherall, gospel choir and all. It was pretty special.

I don't think I've heard the "original" Come Together

ah it was p rare

http://www.discogs.com/Primal-Scream-Come-Together-Original-Recording/release/568801

some1 i know got it

better take out a mortgage if you want a copy

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00000G6I2/

(23 pence used, 24 pence new)

ha! broheems got it on white label, super-expensively istr

For anyone who missed the Weatherall show, I've put together a Spotify playlist with all the available tracks from it plus a few additions and substitutions. The man had/has exquisite taste.

http://open.spotify.com/user/dorianlynskey/playlist/2yMDD8outZPeXOKEgJQIn7

For anyone who missed the Weatherall show, you might want to get ripped in Glasgow

just saaaayin'

http://testpressing.org/2010/11/23/radio-andrew-weatherall-the-music-that-made-screamadelica/

Love this 1992 LA Times review of Primal Scream and their weird 'rave' music.

"I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry," said one teen-age boy.

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-03-09/entertainment/ca-2613_1_primal-scream

love that quote

Awesome.

reads like it was written in 1956 and the reporter has attended a rock'n'roll bop at which the notorious Mr Bill Haley had played ...

never heard of these 'original versions' of Higher Than The Sun and Come Together before! ..Sun was the b side of Burning Wheel apparantly fyi.

Searching for that original Higher Than the Sun, I founf this great comment under a YouTube clip of the single version:

jesus just had a flash back not so long ago jesus man i was fucked to this tune, mushrooms straberry trips hoffmans to much acid back then you dont see it now do you ,i used to walk for miles man
bigluckfinn 1 month ago

He understands.

what do you mean 'original higher than the sun'?

it was on the b-side of burning wheel

as pisces said two posts above you

I have that single but don't have it ripped. Bummer. Will google.

I have that single but don't have it ripped. Bummer. Will google.

So, the deluxe version is £145

(£93 from Amazon, £99 from Play)

saw the Screamdelica show a couple of weeks back

venue was horrible but the show is IMMENSE

leave before the encore though

Is that when Jack McLaughlin and the Thingummyjig Dancers come out?

Bobby Gillespie, Jackie Liebzeit and Liam Gallagher on one-finger piano, hopefully.

Guest spot by Fran and Anna

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hLRDZ3qfL._SS500_.jpg

Budget series? Budget EVERYTHING. What the hell is that.

It's incredible.

Boaby G can tell you all about them

<3 ilx' treatment of bobby g

auld cunt will be rairin fou athort the cludgie wi mani an the ghaist a alex chilton sengin 'seck.....fuck! fuck!' a we speak

Bobby: "Whit th' fuck ye oan aboot, ya fuckin' walloper! Ur you tryin' tae make oot ah'm some soart a fuckin' teuchter who cannae even speak proper English like? Ya fuckin' ride! Ah'll have you, pal!"
Holger: "Leaf it Herr Bobby, he ist nicht vurth it..."

Bobby Gillespie, Jackie Liebzeit and Liam Gallagher on one-finger piano, hopefully.

― Neil S, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 13:48 (57 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is choice PS-grail-referencing btw

Fran definitely >>>> Anna

Is Inner Flight as sped up as the youtube vid. version is? fucking ruins it

?

i'm a fool... there used to a version of Inner Flight on youtube that was the originals. I no longer have my album so right around the time the remasters came out, I wanted to listen to the song again, went to utube, and found a drastically sped up version w/ different artwork. I just assumed it had to do with the remasters and hated it.

but anyways, that vid was uploaded quite a long time ago. no clue why the uploader messes w/ the speed, tho.

a) to dodge copyright robots
b) there have not been any remasters released anyway? even Dirty Hits doesn't say anything was remastered

Pretty sure evrything on Dirty Hits is remastered but only in the most perfunctory "make the levels consistent" way.

none of it requires remastering ffs

well yeah, to both those

"Inner Flight" is such a great little tune though, I always kind of wish there was more ambient music like that. I mean it really does kind of personify the whole druggy atmosphere since it is almost entirely an upper with just a little bit of creepiness toward the end. It always brings a goofy smile to my face. It's almost like something from Pet Sounds. Very cool.

it is fukkin beautiful. totally unexpected when everything is samples and borderline dance music. when i first heard it i played it for my 13yr old sister at the time, who adored it and immediatley started on trying to write the notes down, being a flute player. this is a person who i don't think has ever bought an album or downloaded anything in her life... kinda ironic i guess, she just likes playing music more. but i'm starting to go besides the point, whatever that really was besides "appeals to all ages!".

Yeah it really kind of stops everything and makes an impression, no matter who or where you are.

weird. I've always felt it was the weakest track on the record

I mean Eno sample, meandering melody, overkill with the flange effects = eh okay whatever, what's next

which Eno track does it sample?

The Great Pretender

What bit? Haven't heard the PScream track in years mind you.

Damaged is just a not as good version of I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have innit? I mean obviously so.

Oh yeeah...now I hear it. Tom - it's like the loop of synthesized cricket noises that appears like halfway through the track. IIRC its one of the first things you hear on "Inner Flight".

Thought they were great live in '98. Is that the same year as XTRMNTR?
Were getting mixed live by Dr Pablo, is that Adrian Sherwood?

Still hoping to pick up live material from that tour.

ok, so admittedly i like the first half the song better than the second. that it is even worth mentioning that the song is divided up into "better parts" i guess isn't a decent argument for how great the song is.

Thought they were great live in '98. Is that the same year as XTRMNTR?

That would have been Vanishing Point tour, XTRMNTR tour started Jan 2000 in Japan and Australia

Were getting mixed live by Dr Pablo, is that Adrian Sherwood?

Mate of Sherwood's, involved in early-80s On-U, quit to be a plumber

Still hoping to pick up live material from that tour.

Yeah, I've never heard any, come to think!

The CD remaster is freaking out my cat Cosmo (Bob on the other hand is very chilled): generally Cosmo being freaked out is a sign of something sounding really good / real / disorienting / trippy. So, winner.

I listened to Vanishing Point again the other week and really enjoyed it - strung out and druggy is a much better look for them than the vague and very silly anti-establishment growl they've contrived over the last decade.

The CD remaster is freaking out my cat Cosmo (Bob on the other hand is very chilled): generally Cosmo being freaked out is a sign of something sounding really good / real / disorienting / trippy. So, winner.

― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, March 21, 2011 6:32 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

rly? the screamadelica one? it's so good already. im not usually 'that guy' about remasters but.

can you hear the kevin shields?

also matt dc otm. shit like 'out of the void' is underrated imo.

Shields didn't remaster it, he just "approved" it according to the booklet.

I agree, Henry, the original is fine / I've not played it on this CD player (had it nearly a year) I don't think so can't compare but this is lush. I'll stick the original on later on.

You're kidding. That's all it says? "This product has been approved by Kevin Shields"?

good of him, given he wasn't involved in the original

Remastered by John Davis at Metropolis. Remaster approved b Kevin Shields.

That's what the sleeve says.

Bobby: Kev di'yae ken this Screamadelica remaster mon?
Kevin: Yeah, whatever.

I just find it odd, like he set about to remaster it and then suddenly abandoned it when he realized he couldn't have done as good a job as PS could with their own work. Which kinda speaks for his whole career so far

fyi, referencing this:
http://www.nme.com/news/primal-scream/53895

iirc the sticker on the cd says remastered by kevin and bobby. i'd rather hear shields remix it. i guess he's basically mentally... something anyway.

I'm guessing that Kevin didn't touch the desk but did a lot of tutting and teeth kissing.

replacing all the black knobs with purple ones

barricading the studio with sandbags in case alan mcgee shows up for whatever reason

Just bought along a big bag of drugs.

depriving himself of sleep to provide vocal samples and then forgetting about the waking-up part

iirc the sticker on the cd says remastered by kevin and bobby. i'd rather hear shields remix it. i guess he's basically mentally... something anyway.

― BIG GERTRUDE aka the steindriver (history mayne), Monday, 21 March 2011 18:57 (16 minutes ago)

mentally chill

Just bought the box set on import (got it for $10 after my Amoeba credits) and the vinyl sounds fucking astounding. Just like the Roses remaster, it was really like hearing it clearly for the first time. Problem though - one of the LP's has some spiral scuffs all through Don't Fight It Feel It, obviously from sliding around on top of the slipmat in the packaging. Took it back to Amoeba, we opened up the other copy they had there for an exchange - same problem, but worse! So I'm kind of resigned to keep the one I've got but I'm wondering if anyone in the UK (your journo types) have contact info for the Scream management or Sony? I'd like to try and get a replacement if possible....

Still, sounds absolutely amazing!

hmmm

i'll admit it does sound better, even on spotify

it's not can/stooges/dylan better, and part of me feels that as unlike those it was originally put on cd, this is a cheat, still, it sounds very slightly better

Remastered by John Davis at Metropolis. Remaster approved b Kevin Shields.

That's what the sleeve says.

Bobby: Kev di'yae ken this Screamadelica remaster mon?
Kevin: Yeah, whatever.

Bob: "Holl' Shieldsy, whit's the sketch wi' this fuckin' remaster here?"
Kev: "Oh 'tis a wonderful piece o' work, Robert, me boy, yer man Davis has done a simply splendid job, splendid! Sure didn't I tell him so meself."
Bob: "I don't gie a fuck aboot that, who the fuck is this cunt? Ah cannae jist hiv any auld punter in aff the street remixin' ma fuckin' CDs, man. Ah need som'dy ah can bum aboot efterwards, some cunt everybody's heard ah."
Kev: "Oh but you're a terrible man for the name droppin', Robert, terrible!"
Bob: "Could you no' ha' done it yerself, ya lazy Irish get? Ah mean, whit's this "approved by" shite? Ah'll gie ya a fuckin' boot up the erse in a minute, see how ye approve o' that!"
Kev: "But I need me rest, Robert, I've only got 10 years to make the next album, so I have."
Bob: "Don't gie us that, ya shitebag. Ah'm fuckin' phonin' Holger up, see if he cannae dae it... Holger? Get up Holger, ya dozy auld bastard..."
Holger: "... Herr Bobby, it is 10 o'clock of the hour, why are you phoning me at such ein ungottliche uhr already! Gott in himmel, Englander schwein!"
Bob: "Hey calm doon, auld yin, ah'm wahntin' a favour, that's a'. Listen, could you dae a cheeky wee remaster o' fuckin' Screamadelica?"
*click*
Bob: "Hullo? Hullo?"

haha!

^

Last-minute appearance of Holger Czukay makes it.

irl giggles

totes..

impressions of Bobby Gillespie are like the purest of comedy gold to me for some reason

reading Tom D's Boaby quotes in Limmy's Dee Dee voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfectchNtQM

Which is exactly how they should be read!

Tom, I borrowed (and credited) that dialogue for my blog: http://sickmouthy.com/2011/03/25/screamadelica/

Hope you don't mind!

Boaby says, on my behalf, "Nae bother, fire away man..."

Beer and being glad it was the end of the working week may have had something to do with it but enjoyed last night's BBC4 documentary on Screamadelica - was struck by the regret at the excess from the band (bar Bobby) and how likable Henry the bass player seemed.

I really enjoyed it, even without beer.

I enjoyed it too. Take it the documentary was the same as the one that came on the dvd of the deluxe version of Screamadelica?

Henry seemed like an absolute gent

I liked the idea of him and denise in the grown-up zone of the tourbus, quietly chilling with a bit of Ayler and a copy of What Car?

'not available' in my area. shit

I always listened to Screamadelica from a historic/curatorial stance as I was only about 10 when it came out. But witht he remasters I'm enjoying Screamadelica more than I ever have... Although when I picked up the remaster, didn't realise all it came with was the crumby Dixie Narco EP, as I'd assumed the second disc would be chocka with other things. Still, it's great and I think Higher Than The Sun has managed to invade its way into my list of favourite tunes.

Seems daft that there's no way of getting the "interesting" compilation of mixes beyond buying the expensive LP box.

Apart from buying the complete set off itunes, which OK isn't too bad pricewise...

By the way, a guy in the pub on Monday who'd watched the the BBC 4 documentary (obv. I didn't) was talking about some "free jazz guitarist" who was interviewed and who had played with Primal Scream... who the flip would that be?

Henry Olsen

he and denise j were the best parts of the show for me ..

I thought he was a bass player?

yup. but he supposedly played some guitar parts as well.

OK, I don't know why I (still) expect people to know what free jazz is

Jim Navajo

LOL. I can't being to descibe the widespread hilarity that ensued in Glasgow when the name Jim Navajo first appeared.

I wouldn't have minded but he always used to wear a cowboy hat iirc.

Well underneath it he looked like he'd been scalped (by Navajos perhaps)

McGee should've bankrolled a Martin Duffy solo project in the late 90s when he seemingly had money to throw away. I was listening to "Train Above the City" and some other Felt instrumental stuff the other night - the guy's talent has been pretty much wasted in PS.

That's cos the guy has pretty much been wasted in Primal Scream. Didn't he once fall OFF a ceiling onto a table full of beer glasses etc and nearly die?

That was Wile e Coyote.

The Geir Hongro remix of 'I'm enjoying Screamadelica more than I ever have' is going to be hit, you just know.....

was a great doc. wonder what 'the story' is re the 1991 crash n burn. it all seemed to go very wrong very fast and they all seemed genuinely fucked up over it except Bob. i mean Throb was on the verge of tears there at one point. also i wonder why he left in '06?

I have TWO Primal Scream DVDs on pre-order - a longer version of the rockumentary and Screamadelica live. Perhaps my enthusiasm will wane by the time they come out at the end of the month.

thought Throb leaving was to do with him not doing the same drugs as the rest of the band / favouring ones that impacted his live performance / cf Bob's comments in the box set doco about the Give Out brown period still affecting some people now

I made my own Screamadelica to help celebrate Whitsun. It has proved massively unpopular with the downloading public:

http://blindfaithandhumblepie.blogspot.com/2011/05/whitsundelica.html

Meanwhile, my Primal Scream DVDs have arrived. One of them includes a CD of the Olympiah-ah-ah-ah-ah show.

http://i.imgur.com/AdK01.jpg

Primal Scream have expressed their disgust at Theresa May's decision to walk off stage at the Conservative party conference on Tuesday to the sound of their hit Rocks. "How inappropriate," the band said in a statement on Wednesday.

"Didn't they research the political history of our band?" the statement continued. "Hasn't she listened to the words? Does she even know what getting your rocks off means? No. She is a Tory; how could she?"

he's one to talk having nicked her hairdo and facial expression don't think much of his blouse but

this is a thing tho isn't it, sarkozy (or his ppl, one assumes) used an mgmt song without permission a while ago at a conference

think republicans have done sthing similar before

The history of music is littered with such incidents. In 2008, the band James complained about the use of their hit Sit Down at the Labour party conference while four years earlier the Conservatives invited the censure of Keane after using Everybody's Changing in their election campaign. Earlier this year Tom Petty insisted he did not give US presidential candidate Michele Bachmann permission to use his song American Girl while in 2005 Angela Merkel enraged the Rolling Stones when she used the band's 1973 hit Angie as her campaign theme in her bid to become chancellor.

[Don't Worry, Be Happy] was used in George H. W. Bush's 1988 U.S. presidential election as Bush's 1988 official presidential campaign song, without Bobby McFerrin's permission or endorsement. In reaction, Bobby McFerrin publicly protested that particular use of his song, including stating that he was going to vote against Bush, and completely dropped the song from his own performance repertoire, to make the point even clearer.

Wasn't there a thing with Born in the USA being used in a military recruitment campaign a few years back?

Rocks is a WTF choice for an old Conservative woman to use.

"Dealers keep dealin'
Thieves keep thievin'
Whores keep whorin'
Junkies keep scorin'
and that's because of the Human Rights Act amirite?"

*ringtone plays Can's "Peking O"

Bob (for it is he): Hullo?

*muffled voice on end of phone*

Bob: McGee? Whit dae you wahnt, ya wee Orange bastard?

*muffled voice*

Bob: Whit am ah daein'? Ah'm fuckin' chillin', man, watchin' fuckin' Rastamoose.

*muffled voice*

Bob: Ye whit?

*muffled voice*

Bob: Tory Party Conference? Here, haud oan a minute, whit ur you daein' watchin' the Tory Party Conference? Huv you forgoatten mah auld man wis a staunch leftwing trade unionist and the band, Primal Scream, have played several political benefits in the course of our career, including shows in support of striking miners and Palestine?

*muffled voice*

*turns TV over, "Rocks" plays quietly in the background*

Bob: No way, man! Wait tae ah tell mah maw! She'll be fuckin' made up!

*muffled voice*

Bob: Aye... but we're oan the telly tho, in't we?

*muffled voice*

Bob: Listen Al, ah don't gie a fuck whit oor fans think, they listen tae the pish we put oan ur records, how fuckin' smart can they be?

*muffled voice*

Bob: Whit?!?!? Release a fuckin' statement? Get tae fuck! Ah'm releasin' nu'hin', man! No' unless it's been remixed by Kevin Shields first...

*muffled voice*

Bob: But...

*muffled voice*

Bob: Aye... but...

*muffled voice*

Bob: Awright, awright, ah'll fuckin' cobble some shite together aboot fuckin' big business and whit huv ye, 'n get Warner Brothers' legal department tae gie it the once ower... happy noo?

*muffled voice*

Bob: Naw, ah've no goat time tae listen tae how you discovered Oasis! Catch ye fuckin' later!

*Bob inexpertly dials a number on his mobile*

*mobile rings*

Bob: Maw? Turn the telly oan noo!

:-) missed u Boabie!

^^^^

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Bob: Maw? Turn the telly oan noo!

Maw: Aw cheers son ah luv them Dandy Warhols.

Bob: Whit? AW FUCK!

http://thequietus.com/articles/07116-primal-scream-theresa-may-rocks

his afternoon the internet has been afire with Primal Scream's righteous blasting of Theresa May for apparently using their track 'Rocks' at the Tory Conference. We actually reported this as fact, until helpful Quietus twitter follower @alcxxk sent us the footage which shows she was actually using the Dandy Warhol's 'Bohemian Like You'.

Bob: McGee, ya we rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrat!

congrats to the guardian for their scrupulous factchecking

Boab’s ‘phone rings. It’s his maw.

MAW GILLESPIE: Boaby! Ah’m so ashamed a’ yis, son. After all yir da’ an’ I telt ye aboot they Tory bastirts, and whit dae ye go an’ dae but gie them yir theme tune! Hoanest I cannae show ma face at Greggs. I always knew ye wir nae good. Nae son o’ mine goes lick-arsin’ the Tories!

BOAB: Aw maw it wisnae ma fault. It wis the publishers…

MAW: They excuses arenae gonnae work nae mair, son. It’s a DISGRACE, so it is! I bin greetin’ all lunchtime.

BOAB: But MAW…

MAW: Dinnae ye “But MAW” me! Ah picked up yir troosers tae pit in tha’ wash and thir a’ thae stains next tae pictures o’ that Theresa May an’ her shoes! Son? Frae this day oan AH HUV NAE SON!

(Slams ‘phone down)

BOAB: Aw an’ that…

(Listens to vinyl original of LaMonte Young’s Theatre of Eternal Music that he bought out of Airdrie Templeton’s in 1964 for 2/6. Rings Conservative Central Office)

CONSERVATIVE CENTRAL OFFICE RECEPTION: Aye hullo an’ that?

BOAB: Ehm, this is Boaby Gillespie ootae th’ Primal Scream, ah know ah sais boamb the Pentagon a wee while ago right enough, but any chance ah cid get a blind date wi’ yon Theresa May lassie? Ah’ve goat some rare Harmonium acetates she might be interested in; they’ve bin sittin’ in the attic firra last forty year after I swapped Ally Topp ma Super Mousse Apollo card album…

Marcello's Boab is a lot politer than mine, I must admit

Marcello's needs a remix!

turns out it was The Dandy Warhols.. doh!

http://thequietus.com/articles/07116-primal-scream-theresa-may-rocks

Cameron had the Cure playing at the end of his snoozefest of a speech... but no word from Fat Bob as yet. Talking of Bob:

(who says I've got too much time on my hands at work?)

any chance ah cid get a blind date wi’ yon Theresa May lassie?

Some days later and Bob and his new friend, the Home Secretary, are enjoying an intimate candlelit dinner at one of London's most exclusive restaurants, now read on...

THERESA: Sooooo, Robert. Tell me all about this group of yours, 'Primal Scream', it must be thrilling being in a 'rock and roll band'.
BOB: Ach well, it's no' bad, hen, ah cannae complain, ah've been daein' it fer a guid few years noo... pays the bills, helps keep the wolf fae the door... actually, that's ma wee bo-ey's name, Wolf, d'ye wahnt tae see a photie o' him?
THERESA: But of course, I'd love too!

*Bob produces mobile phone from pocket*

BOB: This is him sittin' oan a burnt oot motorcycle ootside the front close.
THERESA: Oh, he's enchanting!
BOB: Aye, but he can be a right wee cu... wee scamp at times... but that's weans fer ye, um ah right, T'resa?
THERESA: Oh absolutely, but they are a joy!
BOB: Aye, don't get me wrang, ah'm glad we hud the wee bas... boy. You goat any o' yir ain at hame, T'resa, doll?
THERESA: I married Philip John May on 6 September 1980 [citation needed]. I have no children.
BOB: Oh, right... aye... some weather we're huvin' eh?

*pause*

*awkward smiles*

BOB: Here, ye know whit?
THERESA: Hmmm?
BOB: This is a right fuckin' classy joi... aw naw, ah apologise, ah'm sorry fer the language...
THERESA: ... no no, that's perfectly all right, Robert, it's 2011 after all!
BOB: ... aw man, ah'm black affronted, so ah um!
THERESA: Oh Robert, you are blushing! How sweet!
BOB: Aye, ah know! Ah've goat a face oan me like a well-skelped erse... aw, Jeez-o, ah've done it again!
THERESA: Robert, Robert, I'm just back from the Conservative Party Conference, the language got pretty fruity there at times, let me tell you!
BOB (drawing chair closer): Aye, ah'm glad ye mentioned that, 'cos ah wis wahntin' tae know whit made ye choose "Rocks" as yer backing music in the first place.
THERESA: Oh, well I've always loved the Rolling Stones!
BOB (face darkening suddenly): Whit?
THERESA: ... or "The Stones" as I believe they are referred to by the cognoscenti...
BOB: ... but that wisnae...
THERESA: ... and one of my darling young researchers suggested using that particular track...
BOB: ... but that's no'...
THERESA: ... I mean I wasn't familiar with it at all, to be honest, and it's not exactly the best Rolling Stones track I've ever heard...
BOB: ... hey, haud oan therr...
THERESA: ... I mean it's a pretty poor facsimile of their golden period, circa "Exile On Main Street"?
BOB: ... here, that's enough o' ...
THERESA: ... it's limp self-parody at best...
BOB: GERRIT UP YE!!!!
THERESA: I'm sorry?
BOB: You heard me! Get it fuckin' up ye! Fer a start, it sounds nu'hin' like the fuckin' Stones, ya cheeky besom... an' if it does it's cos they ripped ME aff! Ah taught that fuckin' Mick Jagger aw his moves, you shoulda seen the state o' the cunt before he met me... middle class student wanker wi' a fuckin' ten foot stripey scarf wrapped roon' his scrawny neck ... fuckin' LSE... David Starkey? David Starkey? That's exackly whit Jagger wid ah turned oot like if ah hudnae set 'im right: a big jessie!. An' ye shoulda heard the music he wis intae: ah wis listenin' tae real fuckin' hardcore fuckin' rock like the Pastels, dangerous stuff, y' know? And he's listenin' tae some weak shite like Robert Johnson, cunt's no' even goat a drummer or a bass player! And as fer that wee nyaff, Richards... ah tell ye whit, fuckin' smack? Smack? The only smack he knew aboot wis the smack he goat aff his mammy when he wis late hame fer his tea! He wis aye plinkin' away oan his fuckin' guitar tryin' tae learn some Muddy Wahters or sum'hin' and ah'm like, "Holl' you, get a grip, 'err's 'Truck Train Tractor' by the Pastels, come back when ye can play as good as Brian Superstar!" Look, ye know whit, T'resa? This jist isnae workin' oot, cos' when ah saw ye oan the telly, ah thoat, "Aye, she's a bit o' awright her, ah mean, fer an auld yin"... ah even thoat ah might get a fuckin' winch aff ye at the end o' the night but, nae offence doll, up close ye're nu'hin' tae look at... in fact, nae offence, ye're fuckin' hacket! Ah've seen better lookin' burds fa'in' oot o' Clatty Pats at throwin' oot time oan a Friday night!

*stands up*

BOB: Right. Ah'm oot o' here. Joe the Toff. Offski. You can pay the fuckin' bill yersel', ye're a fuckin' Tory, ah'm sure ye can afford it... ma fuckin' da' wis right efter aw... UP THE WORKERS! (singing) "We'll keep the Red Flag fuckin' flyin' here!"

*pause*

BOB: See ye.

*Bob bolts out of restaurant*

WAITER: Madame, ze gentleman is not 'appy wiz 'is main course?
THERESA: No no...
WAITER: Per'aps 'e would like to move to a different table?
THERESA: No...
WAITER: Zere is a slight draught from...
THERESA: ... oh fucking shut up and bring me the fucking bill, turdbreath!

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CONSERVATIVE CENTRAL OFFICE RECEPTION: Aye hullo an’ that?

Brilliant!

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I don't believe in giving money to beggars myself.

:-) missed u Boabie!

I honestly cannot tell if new music by this band is any good or not. They've completely transcended taste and value judgements. The new single starts like a crazy remix of an old Bowie song. I don't know what it is.

They have always been rubbish, but sometimes good things* have been wrought out of that inherent rubbishness.

*Screamadelica, Vanishing Point, about half of XTRMNTR.

yeap, this kind of sucks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCraT9_wk4

I really like it!

https://twitter.com/topazos24/status/308772697867960320/photo/1

Lololololololololol. Feeb.

Mani's cool though.

yeap, this kind of sucks:

Couldn't disagree more.

Up to 1:22 in that video it's a great single.

Then the vocals let it down. I really dig BG's straightforward revolutionary doggerel on XTRMNTR and he's going for that again here but he just sounds so tired.

Sounds a bit like Maroon 5 when they rock out.

Sounds like The Bolshoi or some other late 80s corporate Beggars Banq schtick.

Maroon 5 + The Bolshoi + Momus: the new pantheon?

xpost
ouch. but sadly true.

Give Out But Don't Give Up has aged better than any of this faux krautrock shit imho (the title track, w/ george clinton on good form, is a cracker), and i regret the fact that the scream haven't written/recorded a good sad countryish ballad in years, really ever since they got such a spanking for GOBDGU. tbh, rec does also contain a track called 'Funky Jam' which is obv from the same mind that gave us 'Rock The Shack'.

incredible credits for GOBDGU the alb - must've cost them a fortune

Bobby Gillespie - lead vocals
Denise Johnson - vocals (lead vocals on "Funky Jam", "Free" and "Give Out But Don't Give Up")
George Clinton - vocals (lead vocals on "Funky Jam" and "Give Out But Don't Give Up")
Jackie Johnson - vocals
Susan Marshall - vocals
Robert Young - guitar
Andrew Innes - guitar
Martin Duffy - keyboards
Jim Dickinson - keyboards
Amp Fiddler - keyboards
Benmont Tench - keyboards
David Hood - bass
George Drakoulias - bass, drums
Henry Olsen - bass
Marco Nelson - bass
Roger Hawkins - drums
Tony Brock - drums
Phillip "Toby" Tomanov - drums
Greg Morrow - percussion
David Minnick - percussion
The Memphis Horns (Andrew Love and Wayne Jackson) - horn section
Charlie Jacobs - harmonica

William Eggleston - cover photography

yeap, this kind of sucks:

Couldn't disagree more.

i kind of take that back. i first listened to the single version of the song and really didn't like it. then i found this longer version and posted it. when listening to the longer version after listening to the single edit i liked it much better.

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/03/22/primal-scream-its-alright-its-ok/

boy, that title is good ammo.

They are getting progressively worse, it sounds like the Lighthouse Family

has anyone already listened to their new one, "more light"? i read good things about it.

fuck primal scream, man.

fuck fookin primal scream, man.

Kicking off my Ben Sherman loafers, I fire up the Gaggia machine and hit play on a Soundcloud file of It's Alright, It's OK by Primal Scream. Shortly I'll have to hack up and dissolve the corpses of Vilma and Marie, dangling like broken red umbrellas in the bedroom, but breakfast is a "me moment".

From the moment I hear that Jimmy Miller piano figure over bongos, it's clear to me that the moment has come for Primal Scream to make imitations of their best 1990s imitations of The Rolling Stones. This fits the mood of the moment perfectly, for Vilma and Marie were dispatched last night in the style of some of my own prize-winning murders from the early 1990s, themselves copied from Ted Bundy, the Mick Jagger of murder. The gospel choir entering on the chorus is as predictable as a Bosch powerdrill to the mouth, and just as effective.

I'm not a hardcore religious guy myself, but I do love rented gospel choirs of black women singing behind white males belting out the sort of feelgood sentiments that look great on motivational postcards featuring shorelines and sunsets. Call me an old softy, but Bobby's vehement morale-boosting is doing me a power of good as he slurs in his drug-addled Scottish hipster brogue:

There's a time to remember, time to forget
(Something something something) no time for regret

In verse 3 there's even a hint of Bobby's Crowley discipleship in:

Let your will be a guide
There's no point in pretending when you know it has died

That's very much my own take on the meaning of life; I'd certainly be the last person to pretend that Vilma and Marie didn't die last night for the sake of giving my throbbing will a couple of fair-to-good orgasms. I've made a mental note to purchase a compact disc (for old time's sake!) of Primal Scream's return to form at the earliest opportunity. This major label long-player promises to be a veritable cocaine feast of warmed-up platitudes, cynical nostalgia-mongering, shake'n'vac production sheen and stylist sneering.

Thanks, Bobby, I'm donning the hazmat suit light of heart.

fookin primal scream, man.

whose accent is this meant to be?

love this cover, no band name or title:
http://www.undertheradarmag.com/uploads/article_images/A1TwfgbkkLL_AA1500_.jpg

http://991.com/newGallery/Momus-Tender-Pervert-172004.jpg

lol. i know momus has a mixed reputation around here, but tender pervert is a masterpiece. so many good songs. primal scream doesn't mean anything to me unfortunately. screamadelica is pleasant enough but my impression is that they are a "you had to be there" kind of band.

i was singing "i was a maoist intellectual" all this morning for some reason

so good. bishonen is my favorite. the harpsicord sound works well with momus's songwriting. i like his "analog baroque" phase too.

curious about bobby's pose, considering he and momus share some history.

yeah good point. i guess it is probably some kind of homage.

probably some kind of pwnage

Is, or is not, the new Scream single a cover of the theme tune to whimsical septuagenarian BBC detective series New Tricks?

Bobby and Momus toured Germany together in 1987. In Hamburg an art student called Helga Knipp laid them both on the same night, donning a blonde wig to bed Bobby and a Japanese bob to snare Momus. The next morning the singers complained at the breakfast buffet of an itching in the genital region. Both then went AWOL, forcing the tour manager to consider continuing the tour without them, substituting dreary indie-rock instrumentals for Primal Scream sets and clever conceptual silence for Momus.

"Crush" the tour manager decided to scour Hamburg for the two singers. He found them late that night, posing for Helga in Elbpark, where the trees were just coming into flower. Using a special "devil's horn" pose she'd developed at Hamburg Art School, a powerful flashgun, blossom, and shooting on special infra-red medical film used for autopsies, Helga gave both vocalists a startling new look which would shoot them to stardom. Momus used his the very next year for his Mercury Prize-winning album Tender Pervert, but Bobby's got lost in the post and wasn't delivered until 2013.

Desperately bored while waiting for his photo and his fame to arrive - a jealous junkie recluse with screaming tinnitus and a bad case of VD - Bobby whiled away his wilderness years posting to ILX under the name "Momus".

Boab: "Ye whit? Whit ye fuckin' oan aboot, ya fuckin' walloper? Momus? Ye mean that bawbag fae Paisley wi' the fuckin' patch oeer his eyeba'? Aw naw, talk o' the devil, here he comes."

Momus: "The dehvil? What about him?"

Boab: "Naw, the devil."

Momus: "Aye, that's whit ah said. Listen Rab, can a borrow a peencil aff ye?"

Boab: "A whit?

Momus: "Ah've goat an essay full o' big fuck off words tae hand in.... nah, ah'm joshin' ye, man , ah've actually goat a bookie's line tae fill in and ah've loast mah wee bookie's pen, so how's about that peencil?"

Boab: "Ah'll gie ye a fuckin' 'peencil' awright, right in yer other fuckin' eye!"

Momus: "Come oan Rab, fer auld time's sake! It must be all o' seeventeen years since we last met."

Boab: "How come you cannae talk properly?"

Momus: "Remember Hamburg?"

Boab: "Never been there, mate."

Momus: "Course ye huv!"

Boab: "Gonny leave me alaine?"

Momus: "Aye, fair takes me back, remember that bird, Helga?"

Boab: "Whit bird? Listen if you don't get oot ma face ye'll be usin' yer broken fingers tae pick yer teeth up aff the flerr!"

Momus: "The flair."

Boab: "The flerr."

Momus: "The flair."

Boab: "The flerr."

Momus: "The flair."

Boab: "The flerr."

Momus: "Rab, did you know that on the web, everyone will be famous to fifteen people."

Boab: "BEAT IT, YA WANK!"

lols all around

tbh "XTRMNTR" is one of the greatest albums of all time, much better than "Screamadelica", and it's not a "you had to be there" moment, and it's a much better follow up to "Loveless" than "m b v" was

i'll listen to it today stevie.

\(^o^)/

plz report back

can confirm that exterminator rules

yeah i have no time for screamadelica or most of primal scream's work apart from 'velocity girl,' and i love XTRMNTR. top 10 of the decade for me easy.

Screamadelica was a botched album... all the wrong mixes went on in the wrong order and it was at least a year after the fact. XTRMNTR was amazing when it came out and remains so.

50% cosign. XTRMNTR is awesome classic, but I still like Screamadelica a lot.

Very very underwhelmed at the time by Screamadelica. Loved XTRMNTR at the time & occasional listens confirm its marvellousness. I have listened to nothing else by Primal Scream. Should I bother?

Vanishing Point is the only other album you need to hear. I actually prefer it to XTRMNTR, mainly because of how amazing Burning Wheel and Kowalski are.

I don't think they've ever made a masterpiece. Their three best albums all have flaws. Screamadelica has Movin' on up and Loaded which I never need to hear again in my life, Vanishing Point has Star and Medication which are retro bullshit and XTRMNTR features Bobby rapping.

You got to be kidding me, Pills is one of my favourites on the album. If you think of it as the rambling paranoid interior monologue of a guy who's been running on pills for four days without sleep. I think it's absolutely brilliant, the album as a whole is SUCH a masterpiece to me. I know Bobby talks a lot of shite but the flashes of brilliance make up for it tenfold.

I haf listened to this new album and it is quite good.

I know it's all opinion but I'm pretty sure in this instance it's factually correct to say that Bobby Gillespie couldn't rap his way out of a damp paper bag.

You got to be kidding me, Pills is one of my favourites on the album. If you think of it as the rambling paranoid interior monologue of a guy who's been running on pills for four days without sleep. I think it's absolutely brilliant, the album as a whole is SUCH a masterpiece to me. I know Bobby talks a lot of shite but the flashes of brilliance make up for it tenfold.

― MatthewK

Sorry I find his rapping totally embarrassing. "The truth about you, you never been true" I just don't know how anyone can take that seriously.

You don't have to take it seriously to enjoy it.

I kind of want to buy the new album.

The thing is it sounds to me Bobby was being serious when he was doing that rap, like he really wants us to "Tell the truth" but it just sounds bad and I cringe every time I hear it. I do like the album a lot but that song is just a big misstep.

I have to agree. He does it again on Culturecide, which is the only disaster on the new album. I interviewed Gillespie at his manager's house just before XTRMNTR came out and he put the album on and rapped along to Pills. That was awkward.

Pills has honestly never bothered me! The bit where he just gives up and swears over and over and over is awesome.

Anyway, I'm listening to the new one on *gulp* Spotify and it's alright, isn't it? I'm enjoying quite a lot of it. I didn't even give Beautiful Future then dignity of a single listen, and the CD of Riot City Blues got defenestrated, it was that bad.

I just reading reviews of their albums the other day and came across your Riot City Blues one on Stylus, it actually made me want to hear it. I remember quite liking the single from Beautiful Future but never bothered with it even though when Virgin/Zavi was closing they had hundreds of copies selling for a couple of pounds.

Ha! I got the plural of poets laureate wrong in that. Shocking.

Riot City Blues is daft pastiche but harmless - Country Girl and When the Bomb Drops are both keepers. The only worthwhile things from BF are the Fleetwood Mac cover and Weatherall's remix of Uptown. After those two and the patchy Evil Heat the new one is better than anyone could have expected - David Holmes's production is terrific.

I found the production / sound on RCB awful and offensive, but it's a Youth job, from when I was at the height of my crusade, and he's a butcher.

I'm kind of astonished at how good More Light is on second listen. It's not amazing, or anything, but it is just really, really good, all the way through.

I got as far as the phrase "final solution to teenage revolution" and just felt too embarrassed to continue.

Suspension of disbelief Matt

Echo Dek is their best. I'm still trying to find other music that sounds like that and having trouble.

I've paid zero attention to lyrics.

Echo Dek is their best. I'm still trying to find other music that sounds like that and having trouble.

a bunch of the other b-sides/remixes from the period are in the same general ballpark

I've really been enjoying More Light, Even inspired me to go back and give their previous two another go, and both have some good cuts, just not as consistent as the new one.

Evil Heat had some decent moments, a little too overly maligned at the time after Exterminator was good.

Never listened to Echo Dek much, Vanishing Point / Exterminator are probably my faves with Screamadelica after.

so, just found out re the extra disc version.

is it worth it ?

What's on the extra disc?

well, according to amazon :

Disc: 2
1. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal
2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms
3. Running Out Of Time
4. Worm Tamer
5. Theme From More Light
6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix)

tempted by the weatherall remix alone to be honest ...

What we used to call 'b-sides' then, I guess.

oooh .. and there is this free live ep via amazon :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CAA2I1W/ref=dm_ty_trk

ooh it is FREE

Weatherall's Uptown remix was so good your instinct might be right m. e

Worm Tamer

ooh the spice must flow eh

saw the cover of this half an hour ago, just stopped laughing

Blame Momus.

re Disc: 2

1. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal << great 5 minute krautrock + horns groove song. love it.

2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms << instrumental. sounds like a dark descendant of roy budd. good stuff.

3. Running Out Of Time << more honking sax, lone bass groove + hard left placed echoed vocals .. before flute action and wah wah guitars join in. brilliant.

4. Worm Tamer << nick cave cover. vocals placed on the left side again (same session as previous track ?). slide guitar loop. 5 minutes of layered sonics, harmonica, before kicking in with some fantastically ott guitar noise.

5. Theme From More Light << more slide guitar and atmospherics, more in line with a ry cooder soundtrack. a throwaway couple of minutes, but adds nicely to the flow of this extra disc (i.e. its not just a chunk of disconnected remixes)

6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix) << over 8 minutes of sci-fi kraut-dub excess. the thin drums + deep bass with the tremolo'd vocals before the momentary widescreen production synth/guitar kicks in at 3 minutes. more sax @ 6 minutes. overall the track is a spooked out, lo-fi variation, giving it a pre-virgin era cabaret voltaire feel. really good.

overall : really glad i picked up the 2cd edition.

is the first disc any good though? :D

hah .. well, i think there are enough reviews out there re the album to figure out whether this is something worth spending your hard-earned cash on. personally i this its rather good.
so far, highlight for me is the swamped out psych fug of 'river of pain'.
cant wait to hear this on my home system.

ok.

a few listens in.

this album hits the same sonic spot as the last david holmes 'solo' album, the holy pictures, (if you haven't got it, then do .. its not 'david holmes does dance music' at all) and andrew w's recent collaboration, the asphodells, but is a lot more satisfying than both of those efforts.

this is another album on which the so called established folks involved feel to have genuinely made an effort for their 2013 effort.

see also : bowie, daft punk, qotsa, suede, omd

summary : 2013 = good year.

That's been the most pleasant surprise this year - bands who I thought were pretty much done suddenly bouncing back. Human After All, Beautiful Future and Era Vulgaris were all such crashing disappointments but here we are.

exactly my point DL ..

2013 is the year that people who needed to, raised their game ..

Words in here - http://sickmouthy.com/2013/05/26/albums-from-may-part-1/

stream. the first two songs are pretty great. the first one more in the party vein of screamadelica, the second one a psychedelic ballad kind of thing.

ok, so about a month ago i made a promise that i broke, which was to listen to XTRMNTR for the first time and report back within the day. i've finally listened to it and it is everything the people on this board said it would be... i love the heaviness and the noisiness which never take away from the catchiness. way better than screamadelica, which is still good, but i can see myself loving this album in a way i do not love screamadelica

Just got around to listening to More Light... fucking hell, this is actually good!

Turn Each Other Inside Out is amazing.

Listened to this a few times a while back, it's an astonishingly produced record, Holmes and Shields have done a great job in rescuing it, but the songs and hooks are really piss-poor, which prevents it from reaching XTRMTR territory let alone Screamadelica level.

Turn Each Other Inside Out is amazing.

― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:37 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup, that's one of my highlights of the album too! :)

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/08/20/primal-scream-us-tour-dates/

Primal Scream U.S. tour dates:

Oct. 11: The Regency Ballroom, San Francisco, CA
Oct. 13: The Fonda Theatre, Los Angeles, CA
Oct. 14: The Glass House, Pomona, CA
Oct. 15: Belly Up Tavern, Solana Beach, CA

i'm so there, will make that Fonda Theatre show.

The Name of This Band is Primal Scream.

Remain in More Light

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Primal-Scream.jpg

nice janitors on the Death Star look they're sporting. Bobby's wacky collar-buttons show he's in charge. No-one else gets the collar-buttons.

wait who's the woman?

which one of those is Mani?

The woman is the new Mani.

Rhythm Nation 2013.

so i bought tix. so excited and i have seen them already five times!

utter utter utter utter cunts

Are they gonna do "Gentle Tuesday" or wot?

has anyone seen them on this tour? i'm going to see them on Sunday in Los Angeles.

getting ready to go tonight, have only heard one song from the new album. still should be fun.

i had the time of my life last night. Primal Scream did not disappoint and see them if they come to your town. it was one of those type of shows were you are so happy to be alive. show started off a bit slow but they really started to groove and so did the audience. i danced my ass off and to songs like "Rocks" which was pretty surprising.

of i found a review: http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/10/live-review-primal-scream-at-los-angeles-fonda-theatre-1013/

Setlist:
2013
Jailbird
Burning Wheel
Shoot Speed/Kill Light
Relativity
Damaged
River of Pain
Goodbye Johnny
Autobahn 66
It’s Alright, It’s OK
Swastika Eyes
Country Girl
Rocks

Encore:
Higher Than the Sun
I’m Losing More Than I’ll Ever Have
Loaded
Movin’ On Up

of oh

want to go tomorrow but it's a work night and $30 is a lot