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And should I go see them live next Sunday (with the WAR over they are now man enough to cross the Atlantic)?

I like their Danger! High Voltage! song. I suspect they have no others.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

According to Spencer Chow they're great live and they apparently have a great gay bar song. You may take this under advisement.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It is urgent and key that you all go watch this. The problem is, if anyone who is receiving my crush CD listens to it, it ruins the great surprise of the wonder that is "Gay Bar".

Also, that link involves kittens so it'd be urgent and key anyway.

They're fucking awesome, anyhow. "Danger! High Voltage!" is one of the best singles for a long, long time...

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The album's probably one of the best albums of the year, too.

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm having a hard time tracking down the album, is it actually out yet? I've gotten about half of it, I think, on MP3.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard "Danger High Voltage" last night and thought it was just sorta "meh."

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

That's because you've got no taste.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, clearly that must be it.

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

There's no sex in their live set, which disappointed the fuck out of me.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 28 April 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

it would surely be worth going to the gig for the "danger! high voltage!" song alone.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 28 April 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

That song gets better every time I hear it.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic. You have to see them live, even though they only have a couple of good songs (Danger High Voltage and Gay Bar) but they do a great Queen cover. Saw them back in January, just after DHV came out and the gig was just one big party.

― jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 28 April 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

here's a couple random reasons to like them.

first, this news item from their website:

"After Repeated Requests, Dick Valentine Passes the Courvoisier

April. 26, 2002--It's been a long time coming, but reports that Dick Valentine had finally passed the Courvoisier were confirmed earlier today.

"Initially I wasn't going to do it," says Valentine. "But after being asked so many times I finally just figured, you know, 'Fine, here it is. Take it. I'll go get my own.'"

(sure it's sub-Onion lame, but funny, no?)

and if that didn't convince you, here's their keyboardist:

http://electric6.com/graph/tour2/darth.jpg

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 28 April 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

God, that pass the Courvoisier joke is fucking classic. Oh my god.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I just heard the song, and it's great.

However, someone needs to let whoever made that flash video in on a little secret, MAKING FLASH VIDEOS WITH RANDOM THINGS MOVING AROUND REALLY FAST TO A SONG IS NOT FUCKING FUNNY ANY MORE.

― David Allen, Monday, 28 April 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but the song!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I am going to the gig, I am not responsible for what I do when they play Danger! High Voltage!

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I get really crazy during the ending of that song. FIRE IN THE DISCO! FIRE IN THE DISCO! FIRE IN THE...TACO BELL!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

When they play it live it ain't at all disco, though, Ronan. It's ham-fisted rawk.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I prefer the Jacques Lu Cont Thin White Duke remix to be honest.

Obviously as Ally says the Fire In The Disco part is the best and at one point in the remix you think it's over before this weird static buildup just escalates and he screams "FIRE IN THE DISCO" and all the music comes back in. Hence, that remix is better.

I heard they do Radio Ga Ga live aswell. Dublin gig prices are a ripoff and I am seeing Ashley Beedle DJ on Saturday but I'd still be tempted.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the Thin White Duke remix best too, partially for the reason you state.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I am the only skeptic on ILM, then. I heard the song last night on a comp a friend made for me, and just thought it was kind of a novelty song.

Fire away.

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

What is novelty about it? Anyway, it sounds like Tom Jones doing a duet with a hopped up chihuahua-monkey hybrid, over a mash-up of "You Sexy Thing" and an AC/DC track, how can you find this "meh"?

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Not hamfisted live at all, as far as I could see -- they sounded like Foreigner or Bad Company, both of whom had really good rhythm sections; a fuckuva lot less hamfisted than, I dunno, !!! or whoever. Anyway, even without sax (tho Yancey above says withhout sex!), it was one of the most entertaining shows I saw all year. The Queen and Roxy Music covers were wonderful. And anybody who thinks they only have one or two songs is wrong, wrong, wrong -- Might change my mind somewhere down the line, but right now, I'd take their album (which I just got an advance of last week, and which comes out next month, though six or seven songs have been floating around on two promo EPs since the beginning of the year) over *Elephant.* Not over *ARE Weapons,* though the latter band was MUCH worse live -- after seeing their bullshit at Knitting Factory Friday night, I finally understood why people who seen A.R.E. before (like Yancey) were so aghast when I first told them how amazing the album is. But big deal -- it's not the first time a electronic or hip-hop band who sound great on record turn out to look like a half-assed high school talent show skit live, and it won't be the last. It's been happening to me at least since the Beastie Boys in 1987. Maybe I'm just a total rockist when it comes to live music, who knows? Still. Electric Six live was DANCE music. Just like Brooks and Dunn or something. Almost as good, too!

p.s.) The remix sounds wimpy, if you ask me. Thin and white is right.

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

your second sentence answers the first, Ally.

I'd like A.R.E. Weapons a lot better if their name was pronounced "Hairy Weapons."

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

wimpy? I thought it was almost vitalicesque!

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

P.s.s.) the video w/ the moose and lighted-up codpiece is hilarious. (I don't even know what "flash" videos are, and I'm not sure I care.)

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

See I heard Foreigner and Bad Company (two bands I gots no beef with) when I saw them too (this was last year), but not in the good way that you describe. Maybe it's that the earnestness was delivered with a smirk, like they were in on the joke? (thinking about the singer mainly here) That's something that Foreigner or Bad Company would NEVER do. Cuz they believe that their rawk saves lives and all that shit, and the Electric 6 seemed to merely believe that their rawk might get them laid (which, admittedly, is a more worthwhile endeavor as far as I'm concerned). It just seemed like there should be grandiose ideas behind such a fucking brazen song, but the idea is just to make a really fucking brazen song and that's it (which is why ARE Weapons' "Don't Be Scared" is a MUCH better song -- it's EVEN MORE brazen AND it wants to save the world AND it's supposed to get them laid AND they don't care if you know it AND they have every confidence that it'll work).

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah watch the video h. you might 'get it' a bit more.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

My first two ideas don't match up. Lemme rectify: They did sound like Foreigner and Bad Company, but they seemed to treat that fact with some ironic distance, which rendered it moot in my mind.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

stence, the two aren't necessarily hand-in-hand, why is sounding like that description novelty? Is Tom Jones novelty?

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno, there's something about it that made me think "novelty." And there's nothing wrong with novelty per se, it's just not what I go for all that often (which sez way more about me than them, of course). Tom Jones has made a career of turning the novel into the not-so, i.e. he has somehow found some sort of staying power, I guess. Well at least people know who he is, even if he hasn't had a hit in years. And in the battle of the novelties, I'd take his version of "Kiss" over "Danger! High Voltage!" but then again I've heard the former twenty bazillion times more.

The main thing I could think of while listening to this track was mainly just wondering how/where people hear this stuff, because it didn't seem to be that radio-friendly in our age of ClearChannel. I guess the internet has changed everything (NEWSFLASH!!! I know...).

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yancey, I think Foreigner and Bad Company were probably more cynical than you give them credit for. Also funnier. I don't care what Electric Six's *intentions* are; I care how much it rocks me when they rhyme "fire" with "desire." (not "rawks", jeez -- where did that dumb spelling come from, anyway? My guess is it was some guitar-hating British indie morons making fun of Midwestern accents or something. Yuck.) Though then again, I'm not saying Electric Six have any songs as good as "Starrider" or "Headknocker" or "Dirty White Boy" or "Urgent," of course. (Hiring Junior Walker for their sax solos might help a little, if he's still alive. I wonder if that means in a couple years they'll be hiring the New Jersey Mass Choir?) Bad Company, who as far as I know never made a very consistent album, aren't really in the running here. Though Free might be.

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, why is having a sense of humor bad? I don't get it. Rock'n'roll *started* as novelty music. You don't think lots of Foreigner fans thought Foreigner were funny at the time?? (You don't have to read their mind to know what they had in mind. Honey, you oughta know.) And if Foreinger and Bad Company weren't being "ironic," whatever that means, well, Blue Oyster Cult sure were. And the Dictators. And, um, the Ramones. It never stopped any of them (from whatever it was that they did -- don't ask me).

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

They probably are, but I've had the (dis)pleasure of talking to members of those bands' current incarnations and there's that sort of attitude (but then again you've gotta have something to convince you to don pleather for the 13,000th straight night, I guess). And yeah, I don't care what E6's intentions are either, but when something I dislike about their performance leads me to believe there's something fishy going on, I'm not gonna refute my right to crinkle my nose and leave disappointed. (none of this changes that it's a great song, of course)(the first Bad Company album's pretty consistent)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Just saw yr second post: Having a sense of humor is not at all bad, but I generally don't like music that tries to be funny (in the They Might Be Giants/Barenaked Ladies sense of "funny," but then again their music pisses me off so whadda I know?)(Ramones "funny" is great though). And I'm not arguing against a cynical distance from yr own work, Chuck! I encourage it! But just because I like the idea in general doesn't mean that it always works. And all I'm arguing is that at the one E6 performance that I saw it did NOT work in a big way, and based on that I can't imagine them being able to play the song the way that they should.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 28 April 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Danger! High Voltage! kicks my ass daily (they actually remind me of Roxy Music more than anyone else). The other songs on the EP don't do as much for me.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck it is possible to find some things funny, without finding all things funny.

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I'm obviously no wearing-a-lampshade-your-head-for-is-own-sake music fan, either. But honestly, what I mostly hate about They Might Be Giants and Barenaked Ladies (and lots of look-at-us-we're-playing'-70s-er-"rawk" idiots lately, for that matter) is how they SOUND. And Electric Six, from their single on down, get the sound RIGHT. Which is to say the voice, and the rhythm. I thought the singer ACTED more Bryan Ferry than Lou Gramm or Paul Rodgers live, but I'm just not sure that's such a bad thing. And I also really think that stuff about how those old bands "believe that their rawk saves lives and all that shit" is probably a myth. (Even though maybe sometimes it does, and maybe "Danger! High Voltage!" does, too.) As for the first Bad Company album, it's always sounded more leaden than people have always pretended. (Electric Six sound more like *Desolation Angels,* anyway -- which is to say, Bad Company ripping off Foreginer's Bad Company ripoffs then tossing in disco-cum-new wave synth stuff.)

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant wearing a lampshade ON your head. (Among other typos, I'm sure.)

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just about to mention how you've claimed to hate Mojo Nixon and Rev. Horton Heat cuz of their "attempted" funniness.

I gen-yoo-wine-ly like High Voltage. Especially since on Wednesday nights after work I'm either at the disco or at Taco bell. And my desire sets fires.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually think all their stuff about starting nuclear wars and so on can certainly be taken (by me, or unsuspecting audience members as well) in an unironic way in this day and age, too. (Just like ARE Weapons's war stuff can. And like "Commmando" or "Search and Destroy," back in days of yore.) So they're not MERELY funny. Which I agree, would suck. And probably not be funny at all. (I mean, I wouldn't like the Holy Modal Rounders' first album or "Bringing It All Back Home* or *Licensed to Ill* or *Devil Without a Cause* so much if they didn't also MOVE me, deeply. But that doesn't mean I don't still think they're some of the most hilarious things on earth.)

― chuck, Monday, 28 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Listening to the album right now and it does 'Sound' great. And whatever the joke is, it definitely appeals to me. I think it's funny in a Tenacious D way, but more fully realized musically - as in, Electric Six could actually make a compelling hit single, and there's nothing "novel" about that to me (espcially the bass line). "Naked Pictures" from the album had me laughing (I mean it's really funny) and wanting to dance.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 28 April 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil, you're not comparing them to A.R.E. Weapons are you?

For what it's worth, Danger! High Voltage! got old after three or four listens for me. Do I hate fun? Yes, I probably do.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 28 April 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

fire in the disco!
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008VAJE.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 28 April 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I love 'em. they seem like what the Hives would be if they imitated the Stones c. '78 rather than c. '64 (or the Stooges). also, let's face it, the punk kittens RULE.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 28 April 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

No I'm not comparing them to Hairy Weapons. I don't think I was even the first person to bring up the latter.

To be fair, maybe why I don't like it so much is that it's followed by a Le Tigre song on this comp. Anyway, I'm listening to it now, and I'll keep trying, if only outta something to do.

― hstencil, Monday, 28 April 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I will say that they do sound more "jokey" to me than the Hives or some other groups. Mainly because the lyrics are pretty sloganeery rather than an actual story or coherent viewpoint. But it's definitely one of the better novelty songs I've heard in ages (probably behind "Go With The Flow" and "All The Things She Said" as my favorite singles I've heard so far this year). I hope the album sets up more of an actual perspective for the band then "High Voltage" does.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 28 April 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, it also reminds of the Crazy World Of Arthur Brown.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 28 April 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The album is really good fun - nothing else on the level of the first single, but 'Dance Commander' and a couple of the slower tracks (forget their names?) are cool too.

― Mil, Monday, 28 April 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

For what it's worth, having come up with the first comment on the thread:

"Danger! High Voltage!" -- better than Andrew WK, I guess. As most may know, this is not a raging compliment coming from me.

My interest level in investigating any further -- well, none, really. And part of what's on this thread is as to why -- I've loved the whole humor discussion, which I think is urgent and key. I don't find E6 on the basis of the song to be either terrifically funny or unterrifically 'fun' -- I see the whole early eighties AOR 'no, THIS is pop because it was on the radio' point of it all, but in the same way electroclash as a concept has sorta left me cold on that front, this does too. I don't like the precept of 'it's fun music therefore you MUST have fun,' regardless of whether a band is wacky or not, and I think there's a lot of preconceptions about music supposedly putting a smile on your face when in fact you just want to punch the band out.

Note I have not mentioned irony -- that's because I don't think it applies here. I think this is just a genre exercise done better by in the advertant creators of the genre.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 April 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh. INadvertant. But maybe they were conscious about it. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 April 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

No Fun.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 28 April 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend, etc. How was Sunday, anyway?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 April 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Sunday?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought you went to Coachella.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipped it. Thought about it, but realized I just can't deal with that much live music...

Also, everyone please know that Ned is only No Fun in his Electric Six meh-ing! Otherwise, Ned is high voltage hi-jinx!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Besides the price, I just couldn't deal with the heat. ;-)

Easiest way to get me to 'meh' about something -- have a lot of people say at once "But it's SUPERFUNDERFULFANTASTIC!" when I'm initially indifferent. Then I'll be even more meh but not necessarily hateful -- as noted above, I save that for Andrew WK. ;-)

However, the easiest way to get me to want to blow up ILX in a killing rage: saying I hate fun. Worst meme ever, worst joke ever, worst attitude ever.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

for the record (except the Electric Six record)...
"Mr Chow do you solemnly swear to..."
Me: I do
"Is Ned Raggett, fun?"
Me: Yes your highness, he is.
"Is Ned Raggett no fun?"
Me: No!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Happiness is once again had.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Happiness is a warm Ned.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Happiness is a warm girl in your hand and a cold Ned in your lap. or vica versa.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

We're getting into a whole weird area here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

yes. the lap.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

See what happens when Ned's up in da thread?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

My version has a verse from 'Ice Ice Baby' on the intro. Were does it come from? Is it a remix or a smart bootleg?

― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think it's necessarily a novelty song either, I mean I talked about this on my NYLPM thing about it, it may be over the top but the lyrics are quite good I think, they're good to scream and mess to but they're also good.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan hinted at a bush I was sort of beating around -- Mainly the fact that, though Electric Six are far from humorless, they are definitely NOT a novelty band or a joke band. They're a good hard rock band with a good rhythm section, writing good (and sometimes great) songs and having a good singer sing them. I also like "Gay Bar" just about as much as "Danger! High Voltage!", by the way.

― chuck, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S.) Oh yeah, one more thing: The first two Warrant albums and first two Loverboy albums (which are pretty much the same genre) are better than any albums Bad Company ever made.

― chuck, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

they're not hard rock, they're disco (which is neither here nor there).

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Bad Company made albums? TERRIBLE idea. They should have been the world's only AOR/hard rock singles band.

Actually, Stence, they're dub-metal.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Disco IS hard rock, dammit. (At least sometimes. And sometimes it's dub-metal, too.) Lots of disco rocks harder than lots of heavy metal does.

― chuck, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

sure, lots of disco rocks harder than lots of heavy metal does. I agree with you there. I just don't think this song does.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck, no matter how hard you try, you can't extinguish the fire that sparks inside my heart every time I hear "Shooting Star." (and no I'm not joking)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I musta missed something. "Danger" was out, like, a year and a half ago as a The Wild Bunch 7 inch. I guess they had to change the name cuzza these UK Wild Bunch rereleases.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Kitten videos have been passe ever since VH1 started running one. But I like what I've heard so far from Electric Six because they are novelty songs. I don't expect every artist to be a clown, but humor in music is awfully underrated these days.

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Kitten videos may be passe, but they still roXor.

I have only heard Danger! High Voltage so far, but I liked it.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I keep looking for the Electric Six CD, and I keep becoming disappointed when I don't find it.

I think "Danger! High Voltage" is more like "Urgent" than "Your Racist Friend". Just because it's kind of funny is no reason to hate on it.

― J (Jay), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

the rest of the album sounds like a beefier rocket from the crypt with ultra-compressed nu-rock production. i have a feeling i'm not going to like it in the end (aside from The Hit Single and a few other tracks) but we'll see.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

>>>ultra-compressed nu-rock production<<

what does this mean?

― chuck, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

it may have just been the system i was listening to it on - a really old boom box - but everything sounded kind of mashed together, like they stuffed 16 tracks into 2, then digitally polished it up. it just sounds "radio ready" in the modern clear channel sense, that lack of dynamic range and smooshed-ness. which is probably good, for their commercial prospects.

also, "danger! high voltage!" sounds sped-up on the album, but that may be an audio-illusion.

i'll have to give it a better listen on headphones tonight before i can render any kind of verdict. (if the power is back on by then.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I was listening to it last night on my stereo (which ain't audiophile, but it ain't bad neither) and I agree with jess. That's another reason I don't like it - the guitars sound like total crapola.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

the guitars sound like total crapola

really? I think they sound great! What's a reference cd for much better sounding guitars???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

one of the things that makes me happy about the stripes record being a "rock radio hit" is the idea (whether its rooted in lame retro-fetishization of old-timey recording techniques or not) that mainstream rock production might eventually move away from this ross robinson Biscuit Tin of the Gods production style.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

uh, Spencer, I'd take 90% of most guitar rock out there. ESP. Bad Company or Foreigner, their guitars don't sound nearly as compression-y.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

the hallmark of modern-rock production: no space between anything. bacteria would suffocate inside a korn track.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, It's kind of funny. Cuz I think I heard the ol' record company wanted the Electric 6 to re-record/master most of the album... which is too bad, cuz the ultra scuzzy Jim Diamond-produced versions were pretty rad (such as the aforementioned Wildbunch-era Danger! Danger! 7"), but prolly deemed too raw for "the masses." Or something. Anyway, Jim Diamond produced the first WS's record too and is totally unappreciated person behind the "Detroit sound" who, if I had time, I would pitch a story to, oh, Mr. Eddy about.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"Gay Bar"'s great, it reminds me of Ming Tea's "BBC". Can't wait to hear the rest of the songs. Hey, Spencer! I have a favor to ask of you, heh heh.

― Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaron, am I insane or is Jim Diamond the guy who recorded Don Caballero 2?

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretty sure it isn't... Ye Olde AMG sez that came out in 1995, and that was a bit before Jim really had his studio up and running. He does play bass in the Dirtbombs, though.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, maybe that guy's name is Jim White? Gonna have to check my record later...

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I totally disagree about the guitar sound. I don't think it sounds nu-metally at all. I think your ears are broken!

Also, Arthur, I'm already on it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Yippee!

― Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't say the guitars sounded nu-metally. I said the guitars sounded like crapola. I haven't heard enough nu-metal to know if the terms are mutually inclusive (but I'm not exactly in a rush, mind you). I'm guessing that most nu-metal guitars don't have the chorus on 'em that you can hear at the beginning of the song.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm, I thought that's what Jess was saying and I assumed you were hearing the same thing. I'm just honestly mystified as I don't hear anything about the guitars that 'sound' especially odd...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like the distorted guitars in the chorus, but they don't have the crappy chunk-chunk (but not chunky) sound I associate with what little nu-metal I've heard. They do sound over-compressed and tinny to me. If the guitars had more "meat" or "oomph" or something, I'd maybe like the song better. Maybe.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there's more meat of which you speak on the rest of the album - but I still think that Danger! (High Voltage) sounds great. However, I think Tom Ewing complained about some added guitar sound on the 'Electric Six' version too... search also the extended version has the terrific Blue Monday synth part.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the "nu-metal/ross robinson" style is precisely what yancey sez about...airless, no spaces in the music...the antithesis of disco guitar (or, uh, andy gill for a rock ref who was obv drawing off disco, etc.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

what about "Digital Love" then?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

actually the Daft Punk-ness of the opening guitar lick made me shudder in fear every time, though thankfully "High Voltage" is nowhere as cloaked in layers of joy-stifling irony.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Digital Love" is ironic?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

ironic may not be the right word. Joy-stifling still fits. Though push the subject enough and I turn into Xgau and just start screaming "GODDAMN FROGS!"

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

cloaked in layers of joy-stifling irony

there's no irony in the pure joy that "Digital Love" gives me.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

What Spencer says.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Whenever I get married, that song will play more than once at the reception.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sending my RSVP now, then. It looks like I have a conflict.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Shh, Spencer, honey. That was our surprise.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Anything else we should know, Ned?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Namely that Spencer looks absolutely gorgeous in taffeta and that veil he's picked out.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

";-)"

― Ned Raggettt (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Falsity! Mockery! Pretense! Yay.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I'm loving it so far. Electric 6, I mean. Reminds me of "Rock 'n' Roll Hootchie Koo".

― Always the Bridesmaid (Arthur), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh heh. That's a fun comparison, actually. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned Raggett, the All-American Boy.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I am so the All-American boy at heart it hurts. I'm an Eagle Scout, you know.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sending my RSVP now, then. It looks like I have a conflict.

fine Tracer! I wasn't going to invite you anyway. You'll just have to miss out on the robots I'm hiring to play air guitar.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll admit I can handle "Digital Love" more than anything else on Discovery.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Anthony, if Tim Finney's take on Discovery doesn't help sway you, then nothing will...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Nothing will. The songs get damn boring without the videos, everything's too repetitive, lightweight (am I supposed to dance or merely think about the act of dancing?) and cutesy-poo and if I want robots, I'm putting on the Human League. Phil Oakey is MY kinda robot. He's INTENSE.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

and it's not that the album works better as a pop album. that's just a round-a-bout way to say it's shitty to dance too.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

just like how my fellow Discovery hata Xgau noted that people call McCartney pop just cuz he doesn't rock.

I liked "Around The World" though.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

see John Cale's version of "Heartbreak Hotel"

― john allen (john allen), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Anthony you are a mentalist!

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Finest moment at this year's ATP. Listening to Boston's More than a feeling in our chalet.

― alext (alext), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I just d/led the entire album, it's fucking aces. "Dance Commander" is great, though not as good as "Gay Bar".

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I have downloaded it as well, but I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. I'm hoping it will be as fab as Danger! High Voltage!

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

They seem to operate on the missive that dancing and war are the only things that exist in our society.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

What? No chili fries?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(It does now occur to me that this would actually be the best modern 'I'm drunk and want to dance' band, possibly.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

They're no Doobie Brothers, Ned.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Hstencil is no Rerun, either. Rog, maybe.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Nicole wins the reference of the day (took me a sec to remember, though). Actually, maybe the Electric Six are the ultimate wedding band, except instead of playing Kool and the Gang covers they play originals (and again, people are drunk).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

you and weddings!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess I marry you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Really, Ned? A wedding band? Have you heard their "Wonderful Tonight?"

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(i feel sorry for the dirty vicar since he's getting email notices of every reply)(sorry again dv!)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If this thread is any indication Ned is showing a deep seated urge to get betrothed. Get him on one of those Bachelor shows, someone.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

No Rerun! No Rog! No Rent!

(this is my anti-war demonstration chant. The Trotskyites looked at me funny.)

― hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

If this thread is any indication Ned is showing a deep seated urge to get betrothed.

*bows* Your attempt at a psychological reading is deeply flawed. For one thing, I want to throw AND catch the bouquet at a wedding, and how the hell can I do that?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

aim up rather than away.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Tempting...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I just dl'ed "Danger! High Voltage!" After reading this thread, I was expecting something really mindblowing - and up to the first guitar solo it was delivering - funny, catchy, audacious, over-the-top vocals - not unlike good Ween. But the second half of the song is really dull. The song doesn't build well, and the solos are all mediocre cheezball - though perhaps that's the point, I dunno. But if these guys can't keep the excitement level up for one song (which everyone seems agreed is their best) then I don't have very high hopes for the album.

― o. nate (onate), Saturday, 3 May 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I also dl'ed "Gay Bar" which works a bit better because it's only half the length so it doesn't have time to get boring.

― o. nate (onate), Saturday, 3 May 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.u-turn.dk/u-turn_logo.jpg

Changed my mind. I like 'em now. ;)

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Having seen them live, I can confirm that they are G*R*A*T*E. It's nice to know that there are still bands in the world who need to do > 3 covers to pad their set up to an hour. Their scuzzy rock sounds are loved by me. Highlights: their songs I knew the names of ("DHV" & "Gaybar"), "Street Life" and "Radio Ga Ga".

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

After a couple of listens to the album, I'm convinced that Kim Fowley is behind this. If not, he should be.

― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

"Gay Bar" was far more straight up punk than I imagined -- this isn't really a compliment.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

It's out now and I still think this is the best album I've heard all year. I didn't see anybody here talk about "I'm The Bomb," "Synthesizer," "She's White," "Electric Demons in Love" or "Getting Into The Jam" all tremendous. The album even wins me over with ballads at the end, just like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs album.

The scary thing is that I think the album may be destroying my ability to listen to other bands (last night I got so worked up about Fire I had to put on YLT's goddamn Summer Sun just so that there'd be sound with no actual input coming in while I wrote notes on how good Fire is while trying to fall asleep. I've finally found the use for Summer Sun: calming down after a really good album!). Today on the bus "Like A Rolling Stone" was playing and I couldn't even pay attention - first time ever. E6 put it best: you can laugh, you can cry, you can live, you can die, but you can't ignore my techno. It's the only album this year that I canNOT ignore when it's on.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been listening to "Synthesizer" non-stop!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and if the world of indie always thinks Electric Six rather than Elephant Six when they see E6 from now on, then the good guys have won.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Personally, I'm all for that change nonstop, straight up, all the way through. If only from the anti-Elephant Six point of view. ;-)

(...I still don't get the big fuss and think "Gay Bar" is overrated but anyway...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, give "Synthesizer" a day in court, if you don't like it, then I shall never mention the Eleph.. er, Electric Six again!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

in your presence at least, outside of hushed tones.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Snarf. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

When I think about how E6 is sort of like Roxy Music meets Andrew WK, I realize that's one Andrew WK from something Ned would enjoy. But yeah, "Synthesizer" may hook you into it more, Ned. Does "disco-metal" even qualify as something that gets the ol' Raggett-tongue salivatin'?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 May 2003 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

To switch topics completely, anyone reading this in NYC wanna go to the June 12th show?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 22 May 2003 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Where's it at?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 22 May 2003 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

The Bowery Ballroom, tix are $12 each, I'm going to go!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(oh and when I said "12th" I meant "14th"--whatever, it's a Saturday night!)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

And isn't it a crime that Beggar's didn't package the videos with the disc? I would have paid extra to get a DVD with live footage, videos, and the like, but maybe the hamster scene ("Lemmiwinks," anyone?) in "Gay Bar" is too much for American audiences. Too bad...

― Erick H (Erick H), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Does "disco-metal" even qualify as something that gets the ol' Raggett-tongue salivatin'?

Of course it does. What I think is being missed here (the same as was being missed with my complaints with Andrew WK) is that I don't disagree with the concept at all, but the results! I figure this way -- there's little difference between me saying that I'd rather listen to a Foreigner greatest hits comp (or just "Urgent," if you like) than the Electric Six and, f'r instance, Chuck E. saying he prefers Pere Ubu to the Pixies.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd say you were both being stinky butts, and Chuck was ironically picking the less danceable group.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 May 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Zingo. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 May 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

My sources tell me that two bandmembers recently quit... which is, of course, the Detroit way: snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow! Write that shit up for someone, dude!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Only $12? I may go.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Yup, their record release party at the Magic Stick has been cancelled.

well, let's see, that's another band been killed by leaping to a major--i wonder who's next among the Detroit scenesters?

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Pitchfork in not liking Electric Six shockah.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Such a surprise. I did in fact hear "Synthesizer" courtesy of Mr. Chow and it was in fact quite good. So much so that they need to stop doing everything else and just do more stuff like that, because that's the only thing that works for me. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

that review is ridiculous because it makes these tentative steps towards "escaping the pitchfork mindset" in the opening paragraph and then USES those steps in order to bash the record with just that mindset.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

one of my best friends told me that he seriously thought less of me cuz i like the e6 rekkid. he was furious.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

apparently e6 and are weapons are this years andrew wk, except minus the populist factor

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

haha! his actual line: "first a.r.e. and now this shit??? yancey, i seriously question yr judgement." when the p'fork a.r.e. review ran he went on and on about how amazing it was. i'll hear the same about the e6 tonite when i see him.

how is a.w.k. more populist than a.r.e. or e.6? i'd bet $$$ that e.6 ends up selling more rekkids than a.w.k. (last i saw a.w.k. was sitting around 80,000 copies sold -- this was almost a year ago, howevah)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i suppose i mean "populist" in the sense that i can see a much broader range of people being into awk (lapsed indie/hardcore kids, metalheads, reg'lar pop/rock kids) than e6 who i still feel are a little too arch for that mass appeal (oddly i wouldnt have said this a year ago, on just the evidence of "danger!")...that said they both still piss off the same people: those who worry about "irony", etc.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i heard that gay bar song the other day and thought it was terrible

at least electroclash was a laugh,plus some of the songs were actually good electro
this is like the worst excesses of electroclash by numbers crossed with the barenaked ladies,rocket from the crypt,and smashmouth

― robin (robin), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i hear ya with awk, tho i think that if mercury had gone a little easier with the hype for that record it could've been a lot bigger. let those demographics that you mention find it for themselves (or at least let 'em feel like they did) and you would've seen some serious fucking fandom that no amount of popularity could've wiped away. the e6 record seems to be getting handled a lot better, and i'm guessing it'll be a steady seller for the whole year (that is unless the band really is done for good -- i haven't heard anything else about that).

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

So that's my dirty little secret: in spite of myself, I like a few of these songs. I only hope that my earlier warnings are sobering enough to put it all in perspective.

That has got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read of the Fork. "Heaven's forbid _I_ would never listen to something so juvenile and not Bright Eyes-esque *sniff sniff*" Jess is 120% OTM above too. I like how he never really justifies why it's crap except to say that it's crap. And that no one likes crap. Even though he sometimes does, but not really.....

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i read stuff like that and i wonder how some people get laid

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 2 June 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

They have sex with other people who also don't like fun. Both partners try to act super-serious and sexy during the act, and don't talk at all except for the occasional "oh god". Also they try uncomfortable pornstar positions because that's how you're "supposed" to do it.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 2 June 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe instead of "oh god" it's "oh whicheverhigherpoweronechoosestobelievein?"

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 2 June 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

"oh albini"

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 2 June 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm kinda glad about the Pitchfork review. Universal acclaim for the album (which I love, though I might actually love the YYY's more right now) would kind of frighten me.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 2 June 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that a positive Pitchfork review would make me like it less.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 2 June 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i sort of agree with the pitchfork review. at least i agree in not liking the electric six at all.
it's gross, and it's vulgar.
maybe i hate fun.

― joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that a positive Pitchfork review would make me like it less.

Agreed, unless Nabisco was reviewing it.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreed, unless Nabisco was reviewing it.

or rob mitchum -- those are the two pfm writers that may have been assigned this particular record (dom/mark r. probably wouldn't have) that would have given it a fair shake (i.e. reviewing the [i]music[/i])

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i loved "Danger!" obviously, but i don't think "gay bar" is great. it was always going to be hard to top that one...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

''gay bar'' was dissapointing at first but it has grown one me.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

This is so much better than the Viking Kittens one.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeesh what a silly review. I hate the way they use the first person so often when they are actually just describing a kneejerk opinion and spouting off stuff which one person honestly reacting in a personal way wouldn't do.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Thanks to VH1, I've discovered a singer that sounds WAYYYY more like the Electric 6's Dick Valentine than some goddamn Bad Company talk that the Voice tries to force down my throat.

*drum roll*

DIO

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 31 July 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

here's the lyrics to "I Could Have Been A Dreamer," and TELL ME they don't sound like an E6 song.

Running with the wolf pack
Feel like I'm never coming back
And everytime there's sunshine
I'm blind, yeah

I am everybody
And everyone that I know is me
Everyone that I know won't see

I could have been a dreamer
I could have been a shooting star
I could have been a dreamer, yeah

I'm another number
And you know the numbers must agree
But everytime the wind blows
I can't fly - why?

We take away tomorrow
And never see the end of today
Lock it up and send it away - forever

I could have been a dreamer
I could have been a shooting star
I could have been a dreamer
Cause dreams are what we are
I could have been a dreamer

Running with the wolf pack
Feel like I'm never coming back
But maybe that was sunshine
That I saw

I've heard about a rainbow
I've heard it makes you crazy
I think I'm goin' crazy
Crazy cause I see

I could have been a dreamer
I could have been a shooting star
I could have been a dreamer
Cause dreams are what we are

I could have been a dreamer
I could have been the one to fly
I always could have been a dreamer
Cause dreamers never die, no!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 31 July 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

And you could have seen Dio last night with Alex in NYC. THE SHAME.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 July 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

If E6 wants to increase their thematic palate they should write some songs about normal people WANTING to be crazy rich sex freaks. Almost all the Dio songs I've heard are about flightless people seeking rainbows and whatnot. Though E6 have tighter songs, I really admire Dio's unblinking PASSION, as well as the occasional song where he admits he's an ugly midget.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 31 July 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...

I realize that we were all done talking about this some months ago, but I finally heard the album the other day (not out of choice, I should say), and I'd like to know what makes it different from this:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000068ZQV.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

...if anything.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 11 December 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

wtf, skillz? obv you can dance to Electric Six!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 December 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

And you can't dance to "Fuck Her Gently" or "Cock Pushups"???

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 11 December 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

no, you can only sit in your dorm room playing x-box to "Fuck Her Gently".

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 December 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I tried to post to this thread yesterday but the computer wouldn't let me. Dude, the jokes on the Electric Six album aren't about the Electric Six. And what Teeny said re: danceability. And Tenacious D was a lot funnier when they played their shit on acoustic guitars. The whole ironic point was lost when they actually went metal.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 12 December 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Did I read that they got dropped by XL or did I just dream it?

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 13 December 2003 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

they're still all over the XL website so I'm guessing you dreamt it.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 13 December 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

NAKED PICTURES, OF YOUR MUTHA!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

that 'Radio Ga Ga' cover is big pants

― Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not crazy about the "Ga Ga" cover but I never liked the original much anyway. The new songs sounded great at Siren Festival this summer.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

new tracks are up at TTIKTDA. I think the blurbs suck but the songs are terrific, especially "Future Is In The Future." Senor Smoke comes out about two weeks from now in the UK if the last update I heard is correct.

I'm kind of pissed off this shit doesn't get taken seriously while Conor Oberst does. It's funnier and smarter, and I thought funny and smart were qualities people enjoyed more than self-pity and overrwraughtness. If this doesn't get released stateside I'm gonna flip shit like some Fiona Apple fan.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought funny and smart were qualities people enjoyed more than self-pity and overrwraughtness

But you can't market the former as well because people say "You mean the Barenaked Ladies?" and then there's weeping.

If this new stuff is along the lines of "Synthesizer" then all is well -- but otherwise, no.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Good point re: BL, Ned. "Future Is In The Future" is very "Synthesizer." Check it out, Ned.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah good. I will do so after listening to Low here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It's also very Roxy Music.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, these new tracks are AWESOME!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like Neil Diamond fronting The Gap Band or something!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Future" definitely has a lot more enjoyable ease to it as opposed to the "LOOKATMELOVEMEHAVEFUNPLEEEEEEEEEEZE" vibe of the first album's singles (and that schtick got old REAL quick). Actually the worst thing about it is his voice!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not the vibe I got from the last album.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Gay Bar" certainly didn't have anything like the coherent pretentious cloying that would seem to be a part of what you're describing.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

And "Danger! High Voltage" is a love song.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, coherent pretentious cloying as opposed to incoherent? ;-)

I did like the Yeats quote in "Jimmy Carter" -- 2 for 3 on these new ones.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no idea what Ned is going on about.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I don't really get this "LOOKATMELOVEMEHAVEFUNPLEEEEEEEEEEZE" thing that you're talking about.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever. These new tracks are really very strong. I'm jazzed about the new material!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Let me remind of you a couple of years back: me vs. those two singles vs. the world.

Singles: *they exist*

The World: "OMG YAY WHO COULD NOT LIKE THIS?"

Me: "Like Andrew WK without sounding like Andrew WK per se, these feel incredibly forced and are not connecting with me, sorry."

The World: "Do you hate fun?"

Me: "ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH." *knifes a hobo in lieu of knifing the world*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually its not so much that I don't know as I don't care. If you want to hear it as desperately over-the-top I suppose you can.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

haha wow me and Spencer are x-posting beautifully here.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, have you checked out the rarities up on the media page at their site? They're not necessarily album-quality but they're pretty entertaining. There's even an apocalyptic acoustic ballad.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I will check those.

Also Ned, for you to accuse this of sounding "incredibly forced" is kind of ironic considering many of the acts that you hold dear. And I guess I accused you of hating fun and I recanted - but the truth is, I don't go onto Marc Almond threads and go meh, meh, meh. Maybe you do in fact hate some people's fun (if not fun for yourself).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

or fun in general, which I know you don't hate...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Electric Six and Andrew WK are meant to "fun" acts, so that's why the question is raised.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm obviously not going to deny I've had my moments (see most threads involving one B. Springsteen) -- at the same time this thread *is* a 'classic or dud' setup, so saying this isn't the place to vent about why something might be dud about these guys is a bit like when people were complaining about my negative comments on a Justin T. hate thread. ;-) Also, would you prefer me to not listen to these new songs at all and/or not want me to explain, even if in short and hyperbolic terms, why I think there's a difference in how I regard one set and how I regard another? *shrugs* Am I wrong to think that for some reason?

To pick one example at random, people have spent more time than I can consider talking about how they hate Billy Corgan on this board, and I can't say I'm wounded to the quick over that fact. I don't think anyone is hating my fun (or whatever) when they talk about such things. I mean, are people seriously that fragile over differing opinions?

As for "fun" acts, I really like both Junior Senior and U.S.E. -- and I remember a lot of people being terribly confused that I would like U.S.E. when I really dislike Andrew WK. Well, one works and one doesn't, and both arguably push things completely to a limit and/or try and go beyond it. That I find U.S.E.'s attempts much more light of touch and just plain enjoyable -- a treat to listen to -- than AWK's is just part of the way opinion and reaction works, surely.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

C or D, true, I forgot. But you've already dud'd on them quite a bit. I'm thinking that when you criticize another song or group in order to praise another, it kind of makes me irrationally crazy. Now this thread has basically become about how you hate or don't hate fun, instead of the excitement that some of us are feeling in these new tracks.

Also, I'm wondering if there's a distinction in the instrumentation for you. Are there any "fun" "rock bands" (with traditional rock band setups/instrumentation etc) that you like (as opposed to electronic based groups).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer are you going to see them on thurs?

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

instead of the excitement that some of us are feeling in these new tracks

Hey now, remember I'm saying that I like "Future" and "Jimmy Carter"! They're enjoyable, wouldn't mind hearing again and probably will. And comparing and contrasting helps make it clearer in my mind as to why something works and doesn't -- this isn't new or strange or unique to me at all!

I mean, this is how people react to things, some people go "Man, loved the old stuff, this stuff sucks," others go "Hated the old stuff but this is a step up," others go "Same as before," whatever it is. This isn't weird or something to think surprising! If you're a fan, would you rather someone say that they liked more E6 songs now or not at all?

Are there any "fun" "rock bands" (with traditional rock band setups/instrumentation etc) that you like (as opposed to electronic based groups).

I can give you an example I was just listening to -- Rocket From the Crypt.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

See, I've never liked them at all (there's something vaguely gross about them to me). But I've never waded onto a RFTC thread to make a not very impassioned negative review. I would expect that if I did, people might accuse me of hating on their fun...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

This is why I say you need a "Seal Of Bemused Disinterest" gif, Ned.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer are you going to see them on thurs?

This thurs? MIA at the KF... (next thursday though...)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

is that sold out yet??

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

not yet.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I would expect that if I did, people might accuse me of hating on their fun...

Hey, I wouldn't. And again (and the point's been addressed), if it was a 'c/d' thread, I'd think it was perfectly appropriate!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This is why I say you need a "Seal Of Bemused Disinterest" gif, Ned.

:-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Although I suppose it would be more:

,:-|

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn you Ned, and your incessant meh-ing!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't spell 'messiah' without 'meh'!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Seal Of Bemused Disinterest"
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/l/Limp_Bizkit/sq-fred-durst-bizkit-tilt-maz.jpg

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(that should of course be the text for the .gif)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really get Marc Almond, but at least he's slightly better than that Depeche Mode - and that's not saying much.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

dude spencer lets not get crazy...

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha! xpost

Hey, Simon Reynolds hates Marc! Ever read the exchange of letters in the Melody Maker between them back in 1988? It's great stuff!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never really been moved by The Cure; Robert Smith just seems a little goth to me, but they do make songs that are less bad than Japan.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(note, these posts are for illustration purposes only - I actually like these bands)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Bark Psychosis just aren't quite "post" rock enough. However, they're probably a bit poster than Disco Inferno, who at least don't sound like Billy Corgan.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

a bit poster

Hey, I like that! :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

And for the record Ned, your writing is the reason I'm on this board at all, so please know that this teasing is related to a very small number of your posts... which are at least slightly better than that Dan fellow's.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh him? Do you seriously think i give a shit what any of he will says??

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That f*cker wrote me out of he will!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

HE'S GOING DOWN, THE AMERICAN IDOL LOVER.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I know this has been out for a while, but if you haven't seen the "Dance Commander" video yet, you really should:
http://www.smugglersite.com/mov/fleischer_electricsix.mov

― Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, judging from those three songs, this looks to be a frontrunner for my P&J 2005 Top 10 already ... heh.

― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

haha the "dance commander" looks like terry richardson!!

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Future is in the Future is the greatest song, "If money talks then I'm a mime" is a fantastic lyric! I am really psyched for this album.

BTW everyone on this thread who hasn't should look into the Vertigo remix of Radio Ga Ga. It's fucking great, it sounds like it should be playing over the end credits of some dumb anime film.

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I repeat: "Dance Epidemic" is Neil Diamond joins The Gap Band. "I'm dying for your sins on the dance floor"!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I'm going to start saying "I'm out of time" when I'm out of money. (is that from a movie or something? it seems obvious, but I've missed portions of the complete works of western civilation)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

*holds up Marry Me Ned sign as Ned lowers head from cameras and enters award show wearing surgical mask*

(that was cryptic for a compliment)

― David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"and I was once with a million QUID"!!! LOL

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm a man not a disco ball!"

oh! tragic!

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy Shit. These songs are AMAZING. Yes, yes, yes. God, they are playing the Echo tonight at the same time as M.I.A. at the Knit! WHY?!

― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

To torment you, of course!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

the songs aren't up any more :( someone gmail them?

― mobb drake (djdee2005), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

FROM THE RUMORS I'VE HEARD HE'S TOTALLY A DISCO BALL.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this man a disco ball?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/ticket_line/images/snaps/dick_valentine.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

like harry truman dropping bombs out of the air
like any self-respecting multi-millionaire
this is who you are
five dancing teenage boys who sing their way into our hearts
backstreet's back, all right.

BEST LYRICIST ON EARTH

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i must hear this.

― mobb drake (djdee2005), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

dude I checked the link and the songs are still up at Indie Kids TDA.

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 4 February 2005 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

A) I have just watched the Dance Commander video 17 times straight.
B) Future Is In The Future is amazing.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

A) I have just watched the Dance Commander video 17 times straight.

Thank goodness I'm not the only one!! You see the nunchucks and the sleeveless pink shirt, and already, that's telling you that you're in for something special.

The line "Dance Commander, we love you" was driving me nuts, as I was trying to place it, and then I realized that it sounded like the mid-song rap in Madonna's "Vogue," ("Bette Davis, we love you").

Madonna rapping = bad.
Ripping off Madonna rapping = good.

― Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to have it saved to my computer but I think to my old one or something cos I don't have it anymore, the video. It's amazing. The part with the tamborine!!!

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is that every single time I've ever watched it, I've developed a momentary, bizarro crush on Dick Valentine, which is fucked up.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

No it ain't. Dick Valentine deserves your love.

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No but I mean if the "Dance Commander" video is like my version of internet porn, there's something seriously, seriously wrong with me.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

these new tracks are 10 kinds of heat.

― mobb dee (djdee2005), Friday, 4 February 2005 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

wow how great is "Future is in the Future"? CANT SIT DOWN CUZ I'M A DANCER.

― mobb dee (djdee2005), Friday, 4 February 2005 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the rest of the album anything like 'Radio gaga'? As I thought that was shark jumping of olympian proportions.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 4 February 2005 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The album drops on Valentine's Day in the UK! No word on the states.

track listing:
1. Rock And Roll Evacuation
2. Devil Nights
3. Bite Me
4. Jimmy Carter
5. Pleasing Interlude No. 1
6. Dance Epidemic
7. Future Boys
8. Dance-A-Thon 2005
9. Be My Dark Angel
10. Vibrator
11. Boy or Girl?
12. Pleasing Interlude No.2
13. Radio Ga Ga
14. Taxi To Nowhere
15. Future Is In The Future

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0007M2XLK.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Finally got around to listening to these...fucking wow. And an oblique Don DeLillo reference in "Jimmy Carter"! My pomo nerd buttons, they are PUSHED.

― Telephone Thing, Saturday, 12 February 2005 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

LISTEN TO SENOR SMOKE ONLINE! (requires easily bullshittable registration.

from the first track:

"there's a man on the television telling me to the listen to the radio/there's a man on the radio saying no! no! no! no! no! no! no! no!"

"MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T LIKE YOU!"

― anthony miccio, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

suppose I should log in.

i'm on track 2...GIMME LIGHTS! GIMME LIGHTS!

YOU OWE ME MON-AYYYY!!!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i got the link from Jason Gross's blog but I won't link to it because he says their the disco spinal tap and he can eat one dick. They're the crunk roxy music.

ok actually he was saying "GIMME NIGHT!" fuckin' a.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ARE YOU READY TO BITE ME?!!?!?!!!!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

They're the crunk roxy music.

Hmmm. (Not to the crunk part.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

play "Editions Of You," "do the strand," "virginia plain," "Street Life," etc and call me back, ok?

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not doubting the *volume* part of Roxy Music being invoked, you silly man!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, we know you don't like them, ok?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ok. "pleasing interlude 1" is not pleasing in the slightest. I have to assume this is intentional.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, we know you don't like them, ok?

Spencer, upthread I say how I like some of the new songs! There's no all-or-nothing going on here unless you want to insist there is! Jeepers.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i wasn't grabbed by "radio gaga" when I saw the video (never liked the original), but I'm feeling the cover in this context.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

and I should specify that they remind me of the roxy music that I enjoy, which tend to be the singles. I think Valentine's lyrics are just as colorful and profound and if these guys are less proggy, well, good!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and i'm not saying they're necessarily "profound," just as profound as anything Ferry came up with. and if Valentine is less pretentious and willing to have you take it as mere shits'n'giggles, well, good!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Be My Dark Angel" should be the next single. Jesus christ.

WHEN BAD GIRLS START WRESTLING! EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE THE NEXT REFEREE!

THE RECORD IS SKIPPING! THE DANCE IS DISTURBING! THE JACKSONS ARE REUNITING! THEY'RE GOING ON TOUR!

AND I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

gay bar video w/ bush/blair was fun - dud

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

OK, so the Electric Six are playing my town with VHS or Beta.
Is this a must-see? It's only $10, which seems pretty cool.

― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Seems like a fun enough time for ten bucks. I'd go.

― Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen them, they're totally fun. The fans are fun too.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

fun fun fun fun fun...

i saw them at the siren fest last summer.

it was a lot of fun...more fun than trail of dead...

and you're 95% less likely to be blinded by a water bottle or something moronic flying from the stage.

― mono.mono (mono.mono), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

haha I'm listening to Sisters of Mercy now but I was listening to the Electric Six before and I forgot that I changed the record! '1959' sounds like 'Jimmy Carter'!!! hahah omg.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes yes yes, go see them.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Is everybody sort of "meh" on "Senor Smoke"? I sure haven't read much about it on ILM, and in some ways, I like it better than "Fire." It doesn't have an obvious UK single like "Gay Bar," but it does spit out some other solid tunes: "Dance Epidemic," "Bite Me," etc.
Personally, I'm not so hot on the Queen cover, but whatever.

― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Thursday, 7 April 2005 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Future Is In The Future" is the best thing they've done, ever. But there aren't many other highlights.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 7 April 2005 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Senor Smoke fucking rules. I'm not sure which I like more.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

highlights include: "Rock'n'Roll Evacuation," "Future Boys," "Bite Me," "Jimmy Carter," "Be My Dark Angel," "Radio GaGa" (in the context of the album I fucking LOVE this track - way better than the original) and "Future Is In The Future" (which is actually a weaker rewrite of the last album's "Synthesizer" but I still love it).

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I've trying to catch up and I bought Fire recently. I wished I liked this album more, but aside from "Dance Commander", there's just not much that's entertaining enough to be captivating.

Maybe this new album is the Electric Six album that's made for me?

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, probably not if you can't get past track one captivation-wise with Fire.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

That said, I haven't listened to Fire enough to let it sink in enough.

And they're supposedlu playing a secret free live show in Seattle on April 16th (the same weekend as the Pop Conference 2005.. hmmmm)

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only heard three tracks from the new one: "Jimmy Carter," "Future" and "Dance Epidemic." "Carter" has emerged as my clear favorite. I liked their take on "Radio GaGa" when I heard it live in Tokyo in the fall of '03.

― John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Does anyone know if theyr'e going to add any dates to their current US tour? Cos, like, I don't live anywhere near any of those cities listed on their website. :(

― Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

After checking the website, I am glad to see that my hunch about the source of the album's title is confirmed: the original "Senor Smoke" was '80s Detroit Tigers relief pitcher Aurelio Lopez.

― John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 28 April 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Has anyone heard "Switzerland" yet? I'm going to catch E6 at the Black Cat in DC this Saturday.

― John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_15973/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=2aSqqpfE

― dan m, Friday, 28 May 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Ha ha, awesome.

Anyway, while this is revived, here's something I wrote about their most recent album:

http://www.rhapsody.com/electric-six/kill#albumreview

And something I wrote about the one before that:

http://www.rhapsody.com/electric-six/flashy#albumreview

― xhuxk, Friday, 28 May 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

five years pass...

so they have like 11 albums out now? anyone heard anything past Senor Smoke? (like the rest of this thread I loved "Future is in the Future", but promptly forgot about them)

― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 21:31 (ten years ago)

Their later stuff is kind of hit or miss, except for 2010's Zodiac which I think might be their strongest album.

― MarkoP, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 21:45 (ten years ago)

"Kukuxumusu" from I Shall Exterminate... has become my favorite of their songs. I still always think of it as one of their newer songs, but jeez...that album's from 8 years ago now.

I check out each new album when it arrives (1 per year at the least), but they never hang together as much as I'd like. They'll have a killer best of compilation one day.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 21:49 (ten years ago)

Huh, they've had a few Kickstarters:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/e6absolutetreasure/mimicry-and-memories/description

― etc, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 08:48 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

oh man, "Escape from Ohio" is like the most on the money song about Ohio I've ever heard

― frogbs, Friday, 9 November 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)

like they should adopt it as their state song

― frogbs, Friday, 9 November 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)

I remember seeing them at Glastonbury and two of the first three songs they played were Danger High Voltage and Gay Bar. Obviously everyone immediately left and they played the remainder of their set to a nonexistant crowd.

― Matt DC, Friday, 9 November 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)

I saw them in July, 14 years and 16+ albums after the last time I saw them, and they played Gay Bar fifth. They ("they") were MUCH MUCH BETTER than last time, because he hadn't written Down At McDonalds or Infected Girls or I Buy The Drugs or (Who The Hell Just) Call My Phone? fourteen years ago.

also because the crowd wasn't full of shit-drunk suburban dickheads shoving people around to impress their girlfriends this time.

― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Friday, 9 November 2018 19:48 (seven years ago)

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