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I got this tonight. It is very very astonishing.

1. Visitor
2. Talk in Danger
3. The Present Lover
4. Body Speaking
5. So You
6. Could Be Like This
7. Cold Lately
8. Tessio [completely reworked from the Vocalcity version]
9. What Good
10. Shelter

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 06:52 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks for tip, off to soulseek...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 06:56 (twenty-three years ago)

i got that tessio 12" the other day. Aside from having a lovely picture one the cover, it has 2 remixes. The Aukfan (sp?) one is probably the one on the album, the one that people have been raving about, but i actually prefer the other one, by i can't remember who... Its sort of cut up and dubby. sorry, that's all a bit vague, but i bought the thing a week ago but have only had a couple of chances to listen to it ;-(

― Robin Goad (rgoad), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 07:35 (twenty-three years ago)

no, the one on the album is the A-side, it's different from the version on the first Luomo album. the cut-up, dubby one is probably the Akufen, that's his style. I have the 12" too, just haven't played it yet, and the cover photo is the hottest thing ever

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)

when is this coming out??

― dave k, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 07:58 (twenty-three years ago)

fall, probably. I was sworn not to review it till a date was given. OK, I won't.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 08:02 (twenty-three years ago)

(it is great)

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 08:10 (twenty-three years ago)

It's too bad it doesn't have Melt on it, but boy am I excited now

― dave k, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 08:49 (twenty-three years ago)

"Melt" wouldn't fit--it's really fucking poppy, and the vocals are NOT SHY this time around, they're right up front...I could go on and on and on but I fear sleep beckons.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 08:54 (twenty-three years ago)

no, let me say this: "So You" is his most voracious desire-matrix yet, the vocals ("Do I want too much? Oh, I'd give to you...I ain't got anything else I could give to you") every bit as desperate/desireful as on Vocalcity but they're up front, not shy in a way that the last album wasn't; the way they work off these foursquare, almost plodding keyboard and basslines just ratchets up their neediness, like impossible desires secretly erupting in the head of a person who looks like they're just shopping for toothpaste or something, only the beat is really funky...I've played it like 20 times tonight; it's probably the greatest thing he's ever done.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 09:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you bastard matos :)

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 10:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it on forcetracks?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 10:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Release date is June 9 (same as new Radiohead, Beyoncé, Sizzla, Metallica and Mary J Blige)...

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:08 (twenty-three years ago)

The 12" is Force Tracks FT 54.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought it would be worth mentioning Luomo's rmx of Massive Attack's "Special Cases" in this thread. It's amazing, but compared to the comments made upthread about the vocals, this remix is more old school Luomo. Well worth checking if you haven't already...

― disco stu (disco stu), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)

either mix of tessio will have to some to beat the MRI version

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:07 (twenty-three years ago)

The MRI version is easily my favorite of the remixes.

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm into the Matthias Schaffhauser mix pretty big, too, but MRI is grate. I do wish I had a turntable to play this stuff on....

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a really nice one to sell... ;o)

― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

email me!

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

JoB, where did you get that 6.9 release date info? I was told that it's not out till Sept. or Oct. by the company's pub. guy.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I do wish I had a turntable to play this stuff on....

Frubba!? Nooga?! Hee-Hay? Teedle-nee-pa-pa?

― david day (winslow), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:01 (twenty-three years ago)

wtf?

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:03 (twenty-three years ago)

heh. sorry. a bout of disbelief... 'sokay, though. get thee to a stereo shop!

Present Lover is coming out on like BMG or sumting, yes? I believe Tos is correct, in the fall.

― david day (winslow), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)

why is it that people are always surprised that I don't have a turntable? those fuckers (the good ones, at least) are k-expensive! I'd rather spend it on more CDs.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

What I'm surprised at Matos is that you're holding out for a good turntable. You don't strike me as the audiophile type. Get some plastic thing for $100 and then you can start collecting Casablanca 12-inches.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:29 (twenty-three years ago)

It's coming out June 1 in Germany (and presumably rest of Europe?) through BMG; U.S. release will be later as per some licensing holdups, "hopefully by end of the year" being the word I got.

And it's gooooooood.

― Andy, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

grrrr... i want. i turn on file-swapping program home tonight. i listen. i buy later.

― david day (winslow), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:49 (twenty-three years ago)

it doesn't seem to be anywhere on slsk at the moment

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

where did you get that 6.9 release date info?

Benelux distributor.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

it doesn't seem to be anywhere on slsk at the moment

grrrr...

― david day (winslow), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

It's coming out June 1 in Germany

heheh, that's "Old Europe" for ya. :) One month to go, I can live with that.

― Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 20:11 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe the Yanks get it in Autumn, Europeans in June?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Except, being Yanks and all, we get it in Fall rather than Autumn!

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

AAAAAAAHHH!

... is all I can think or say right now.

Also why I have i not heard this MRI remix of "tessio" before?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 1 May 2003 00:29 (twenty-three years ago)

surprised you haven't, Tim--it's quel excellente.

btw, the bridge (that's right, bridge) on "What Good" is the most heart-stoppingly ecstatic moment of his career so far.

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 1 May 2003 09:04 (twenty-three years ago)

The MRI mix of Tessio is just pure Tantrically slow-building dancefloor bliss. Actually reminds me of dancing in the open air at the forcetracks showcase at Sonar a couple of years ago and falling momentarily in love with one of the heartstoppingly beautiful Catalans beside me, plucking up the courage to talk to her and turning round to find her gone, but not really caring because we'd smiled at each other and everything else about the evening was just perfect (unembellished true story!)... kinda fitted with the song...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 1 May 2003 10:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Where do I start?

The Massive Attack remix is astonishing, what you would expect from a Luomo remix at first which, naturally, is great, and then it goes on a microrave tip, complete with a couple of outstanding Orbital-style moments. I don't have the words to explain it but some of you do, so please seek it out.

Has anyone else got "Waltz For Your Eyes", the limited 12" on scheinselbständig (sst 5)? Tricky to find but it looks like it's still available at Juno Records. It's not the best thing he's done to be honest, but it has a nice acoustic guitar feel, half r'n'b and half Balearic, and a nice lyric - "Can't look at their eyes anymore, it's you I wanna be living for" - reputedly meant for his loved one. Perhaps the old goat has settled down and doesn't need to elliptically orbit his lyrical purpose any more.

Is the Euro-American release date disparity a pan-Atlantic date formatting confusion? 6/9 means the 6th of September in these parts.

And Matos, do you need any favours doing? Lawns watering? Windows cleaning? Ovens degreasing? Give us a shout, I'm sure I'll think of something you could do for me.

― Mike (mratford), Thursday, 1 May 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Just got the "Tessio" remix pack few days ago, and I'm disappointed - I prefer remixes when they completely rip apart the original and turn it into something altogether new, and all of these (Akufen, M.R.I., Moonbootica, Hakan Libdo, Ric Y Martin) leave "Tessio" more or less intact. The Akufen one is nice, surprisingly disciplined and balearic, but not particularly exciting. My fave is the Moonbootica one, nice electro bassline. Went to see Savas Pascalidis play last weekend, and he opened his set with it - lovely. The M.R.I. one didn't leave an impression on first cursory listen, but will get back to it what with the recommendations above.

Oh, and I watched Vladislav Delay live few weeks ago. I can't listen to IDM glitch at all any more, and I went just because I was hoping he'd throw in some forthcoming Luomo material in the mix for surprise - all I got was an acapella at the end. The Delay stuff I just can't enjoy and appreciate, but the guy himself was reeeeally into it, swaying in trance and punching the air with every eardrum-rupturing glitch. He also dropped in Tricky's "Christiansands" and "Makes Me Wanna Die" for no apparent reason in the midst of his act (I 've heard that apparently, his three fave albums ever are "Maxinquaye", "Protection" and "No Protection"). And he started off with the intro from the Tweet album! Love the guy.

Also, he's super HOTT!!! Why he chose those old baldhead shots for promo pics mystifies me. He's let some hair down in the meantime, and now looks like the most shaggable, beautifulest scandinavian lovegod ever!

― Mind Taker, Friday, 2 May 2003 13:34 (twenty-three years ago)

hasn't been anywhere on slsk yet. i will offer $ money to anyone who uploads it, anywhere.

― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 05:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Matos is such a cocktease

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 05:30 (twenty-three years ago)

the promos are all copy-protected

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 05:38 (twenty-three years ago)

i have faith that some dedicated thief will find his or her way around that

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 06:03 (twenty-three years ago)

like, for example, recording it analog

(if you can tell the difference you're lying, especially if you're encoding it to MP3)

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 06:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I also can't (a) convert audio to MP3 or (b) upload MP3s onto my hard drive. It's very old and not very good. I play most of my CDs on a shitty little boom box.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 06:19 (twenty-three years ago)

spray painted leapord print? carry it on your shoulder?

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 08:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I like it more than the first album. It's more poppy. Very summer. Actually it reminds me of Everything But the Girl a bit. Maybe Luomo can cross over to the yuppie house market ;) Present Lover is still the best imho.

― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Ben- 'Present Lover' is probably, by my ears, the most perfect thing I've heard in the past year or so. The one moment in the song that crystallizes everything for me occurs after that solo, when the singer sort of breathe-sings 'I wish', then it goes back to 'the true lover', and then this noise like the revving of an engine while everything else drops out. It makes my knees buckle even when I'm sitting down.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

i just don't get why everyone raves over luomo. it's the dullest pop house i have ever heard just as vladislav delay is the dullest dub techno i've ever heard. the most overrated finn of all time?

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Vladislav Delay is "dub techno"?!

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

White Light/White Heat is also the dullest movie I ever watched and Citizen Kane is the most boring book I ever read and also Boney M are the most boring rappers ever and Miss Kittin' is the most boring rock and roll artist.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I was kind of in stirmonster's camp before (tho perhaps not quite as extreme), but the new one has brought me round.

― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)

oh for pedants' sake! yes he's dub techno.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:23 (twenty-three years ago)

ever wonderd why ilm is 99.9% male. yup guys. that's why.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)

why?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Stirmonster is right -- girls don't like arguing, they like flowers and butterflies and barbie and pink things. Also cooking, but not y'know, cars.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

[yep, still rock'n that preemptive strike, j0hn]

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

and the lifetime network, sterl.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, but have they cottoned to the Oxygen Network the way they're supposed to yet?

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:42 (twenty-three years ago)

For me, it's not a matter of being a "pedant" or even being "right". There's valuable discourse taking place on these boards and unless you have some aversion to accuracy I don't see what the problem is with hashing shit out. It's not an attack on you stirmonster, IRL I'd query my best friend or a new acquaintance in the same manner. I've only got Entain and Multila, but I personally don't hear similar working methods in Delay's stuff and the rest of the Chain Reaction crew. But I guess it probably does all get lumped under that label. Anyway, feel free to set me straight!

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd call the Delay stuff more ambient-dub than anything; it pretty much just sits there and bubbles up sometimes before settling back down. I'm NOT much of a Delay fan outside of Luomo, in fact, though the bio w/the new one mentions some hip-hop thing he's working on, which could be interesting.

I've heard reports that the album's starting to get around a bit.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

this album isn't listed as coming out anywhere in jolly old england.
even amazon makes no mention.

has someone made it up ?

― piscesboy, Sunday, 18 May 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

No sign of a UK release date, from my previous experience the UK gets Force Tracks/ Mille Plateaux releases a couple of weeks AFTER Germany and the US.

your best bet is to sign up with the weekly e-mail mailing list @ Manchester's electronic music online shop Boomkat: http://www.boomkat.com/

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 18 May 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

For this sort of stuff you've gotta check www.amazon.de. Zee Germanz own zee house musik, jawol? Job wins, they say: 10 june. They also have a picture of the cover. I like it. The album is stunning and would be perfect if he'd left off Tessio. Ah but those closing moments on Shelter. Sigh.

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 18 May 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00009AHMW.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 18 May 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Her left arm looks kind of overdeveloped.

― Curt (cgould), Sunday, 18 May 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, that makes up for the underdeveloped right one.

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

When did Bridget Fonda lose her right arm?

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 19 May 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Sam Raimi chopped it off

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

good lord, that's one ugly cover

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

it looks very 80s sytle mag ala blitz and the face

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

it looks like a revlon ad

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

is it a bite?

what're the sources?

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Sterling it's not arguing in general that's male type behavior, in fact Mr Diamond TOTALLY AVOIDS stirmonster's arg: "this is the dullest [x] i've ever heard" - Mr Diamond sez "but it's not [x] at all" - the only way this furthers the discussion is that it makes possible the argument that because it's not [x] but [y] it's magically not dull --> but Mr Diamond didn't say this, he just kept chipping away at his categories

anyway i love presents but i'm not sure if i love luomo; i haven't heard the new one but it seems sort of wibbly

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

it's wendy out of wendy and lisa !!
it is though !

― piscesboy, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I like that cover! It is appropriate to the album too. I mean, let's face it, it's all very smooth, tasteful and coffeetable. (Which I don't necessarily have any problem with).

― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

(In fact I think it is long past time for a transvaluation of these terms ;)

― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

but that's not a [transvaluation] that a [re-evaluation]! ha! (just kidding; i think the transvaluation happened some time ago though that may just be an age thing)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Not for music criticism, it didn't.

― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't have any problem with smooth, coffee table respectability either! i just don't think cover girl ads clipped from my mother's mid-80s issues of elle and cosmo are very glamorous! (ha they certainly were coffee table though.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it meant to be simply glamorous tho? There's something kind of off about it... and not just the arm. It's kind of cheesy, I like that.

― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i will admit it has a bit of a cheesy edge, which is nice, espcially compared to the "fractal graphix & code-titles" of so many of his contemporaries.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

it would be more transgressive if he had appropriated a look from one of the other magazines on my parents coffee table, like sports illustrated or horitculture specialist.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Present Gardener" doesn't quite have the same ring.

― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the cover. but if i buy this i'll only show it to people that know it's super new shiny tiny techdubmicroshufflewhatzit and not anything like that naff 'relaxing' 'ambient' cd that came with my mom's copy of "women's health" or somesuch.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Are we sure that's a "he" on the front, though?

― Clarke B., Monday, 19 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Rather, a "she"?

― Clarke B., Monday, 19 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

It's like that Lords of Acid thing, isn't it?

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah somehow I picked up that vibe too (something about that arm?)
But I agree with Ben, the cover fits with the music. And don't all recent Luomo covers feature these sort of glamorous/magazine pictures?

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Dammit, though, I'm already kind of worried. The cover of Vocalcity is so gorgeous, an amazingly sparkly, tactile *thing* that upon closer inspection reveals itself to be a disco ball. The new album doesn't have that kind of double-layeredness. It seems like a statement: "This music, while sonically complex and intricate and blah blah, is actually quite sexy and glamorous!" My response is: "Well duh, it's been like that all along! Did you think people didn't notice?" Maybe I've been reading ILM for too long, but for Luomo to make an album where the vocals are completely up-front and pop-tastic seems so, well, obvious, and that in itself is a little bit of a pre-release let-down for me. I tend to like "logical extensions" of an artistic approach less than the intermediate steps, though, so take that for what it's worth.

― Clarke B., Monday, 19 May 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

But the vocals aren't really that pop-tastic and the sexyness to me seems haunted. So don't worry too much Clarke. :)

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 19 May 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

That could actually be Luomo on the cover. Just a guess.

― david day (winslow), Monday, 19 May 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

He does kinda look like that, though.

― david day (winslow), Monday, 19 May 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm, I'm not sure what Tracer is on about up there. Tracer, please tell me how the opinion "the dullest dub techno I've ever heard" constitutes an "arg"? What am I supposed to engage with there?

In any case my only point w/ stirmonster was that his labelling of the Delay stuff seemed dismissive, lumping it in with the rest of Chain Reaction stable and causing me to wonder what he was hearing in it. I questioned his characterization because I didn't want someone stumbling on this thread who hadn't heard Delay to think that "techno dub" is all there was to it; most of it is beatless. How on earth did I "keep chipping away"? I made one terse post! Then clarified, and invited stirmonster's thoughts, but he never replied.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 19 May 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Some thoughts on the album:

1) I like it more *and* less than the first album, if that makes sense. It's definitely a compromise - he's given up some things in order to do other things eg. the general pattern here is of really propulsive, obviously disco grooves with intermittent stretches of noisy interruptions vs the really quite organic and comparatively mistake-free glitch-house landscapes of Vocalcity. I don't know if the conscious-mistakes really do it for me that much (eg. I'm a bit ambivalent about the new version of "Tessio", which feels more forced than the original) but the propulsiveness is really wonderful in a way that doesn't contradict the beauty of the first album - especially when he just goes for straightforward tearjerker glory on "So You", "Could Be Like This", "What Good" and "Shelter" (which should be the last song on every mixtape ever).

2) It does have a very strong feel of good taste/catwalk fashion/magazine spread refinement to it. I agree with Ben that this ain't necessarily a bad thing - and I like EBTG as well. Actually this in context with Digital Disco (and maybe Coloma and related stuff) is a shift within the broader microhouse scene towards a conscious, dance-oriented version of New Pop. In my head I'm calling this stuff "neuromanticism".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

neuromanticism

That's some kinda genius (like yer post in general). But is the Gibson reference intentional or not? Compare the cover of the album above with:

http://www.fyifrance5.com/gibson1.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually that cover looks kind of like Vocalcity!

The Gibson reference is 'cos I just recently read Neuromancer - although obviously my meanining is different to his (although in some ways the entire microhouse project is about problematising the Wintermute/Neuromancer split, arguing that it is not inevitable but is still necessary, therefore must be approached consciously, or even like it is an uncertain hero-quest). The pun is too good to be wasted on just one meaning though.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually that cover looks kind of like Vocalcity!

See, this is what happens when I only have mp3s. ;-)

The pun is too good to be wasted on just one meaning though.

Soytenly. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry Mr Diamond i was really taking issue w/what i though was a pretty accurate call stirry made abt "pedantry" - what genre it falls in wasn't the point of his post (i don't think he was "lumping" anything in, and i kno that he can love chain reaction so it's no automatic dis). "boring" is not specific enuf, i agree, but just saying "it's not dub techno" isn't either, really, and doesn't get at why you don't think it's boring

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Yukihiro Takahashi - Neuromantic

great album

― geeg, Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I missing something?

What the hell does William Gibson have to do with Luomo?

problematising the Wintermute/Neuromancer split

EH?

― Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

That cover looks like electro-clash bullshit.

Will the Luomo album sound better than the new Dandy Warhols clip?

Tessio always reminded me of the bass lines of 'Love Action/Don't you want me' Human League with vocals by the Manhattan Transfer. Still a beautiful traxxx.

Will the bomb drop with this album, or will it just be a fart in a bathtub?

― LoveBlob, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

for some reason the cover brings to mind Pulp's "Lipgloss" and the second Suicide album

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

The cover is kind of nice, in the aforementioned fashion-conscious, cocaine nightclub way, I guess.

But Electroclash? Why? Just cuz it's retro-80's?

I do like the way it looks like she just woke up, right next to me.

― Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

But again, Tim - what's with the cybercult reference? Is it just because of the digital production angle?

Interestingly, microhouse tends to be rather coy about highlighting the new media implemented. If you want do that whole body/digital (i.e. Wintermute/Case) interface/divide, I wonder whether Donna Haraway is the missing metaphoric link, or at least Sadie Plant.

I just wouldn't say that LUOMO is about 'leaving the meat behind', is all.

But the term is catchy - I gotta admit.

(what's with that hero-quest idea tho?)

― Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.zerecords.com/scripts/show_picture.php?id=86

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Grace Jones did that one better.

― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

see www.intro.de for video of 'Tessio' (moonbootica radio edit)

― ilander, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for the video link!

Does anyone have .mp3s of this Without the copy-protection bleeps?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Having finally heard this...it's all right, I guess. But I'm sorta bemused as to what makes Luomo so specifically special or unique in general. Or he is meant to be?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"But again, Tim - what's with the cybercult reference? Is it just because of the digital production angle?"

Argh, Michael, please don't spend too much time thinking about this, as I think I said the first time the cybercult reference is a red herring - I just want to steal the pun. The link I made b/w microhouse and Neuromancer was joking (I just wrote something that tried to explicate it and then deleted it b/c it looked so silly).

"Does anyone have .mp3s of this Without the copy-protection bleeps?"

For the first few songs I just assumed they were part of the production!

"Having finally heard this...it's all right, I guess. But I'm sorta bemused as to what makes Luomo so specifically special or unique in general. Or he is meant to be?"

Um... amazingly luscious and emotive disco a la Armand Van Helden's "Flowerz"? Strictly speaking The Present Lover sounds much less unique than Vocalcity; rather than a new strain of house music this is more like an intensification of house's most central properties, a recreation that can potentially surpass the original formula (see what Reynolds was saying recently about The Associates' relationship to Bowie or My Bloody Valentine's relationship to JAMC - although I don't Luomo's recreation is as radical as in those cases).

This is why I find the self-conscious use of digital errors a bit distracting - as I was sorta saying before the album is better the simpler it gets, the closer it gets to "perfect" house music, all glorious warm basslines, scintillating synth riffs and sighing vocals (apart from the untouchable "Shelter", my current favourites are "Could Be Like This" and "What Good" for these reasons).

In a funny way the most representative track is "The Visitor", despite being beatless, because or how it takes all the ecstastic trembly joy of dance music and seems to compress and intensify it, like ecstatic trembly joy is a very rare property that's usually sold in diluted amounts but Luomo has the keys to the laboratory.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 22 May 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

No she didn't. But out of curiosity, who did it first?

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 22 May 2003 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Gah, I try again:

"Grace Jones did that one better."

No she didn't. But out of curiosity, who did it first?

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 22 May 2003 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)

where are y'all getting mp3s from fullstop? it's still not on slsk, unless i'm blind...

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 22 May 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

toby - what's fullstop? I got about three tracks from slsk, couldn't find anymore.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 22 May 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

oops - it was supposed to be "full stop", as in never mind has anyone got them without beeps, where have they got them from at all?

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 22 May 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

should have guessed. I'd like to know where to find it too.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 22 May 2003 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

fyi , this album is available by mail order from force tracks...

here's the release info (sorry for those who already get mail from ft):

Almost two and a half years after his first album, "Vocalcity" (Force
Tracks), Vladislav Delay returns with Luomo to explore new dimensions in
upfront vocal house. "The Present Lover" is a self-confessed outsider's
perspective on the club scene, seamlessly blending pop and club elements to
deliver a cunningly original take on pop, house and R&B, replete with
meticulous arrangements and seductive vocals.

Driven by an ever-present inner restlessness, the 26-year-old recently
relocated to Berlin. He remains on the move, constantly performing at
countless clubs and festivals around the world. A man of many guises, the
tireless producer and remixer deconstructs techno as Uusitalo, explores
experimental sound design as Vladislav Delay, and has plans to blunt hip hop
with an as yet unnamed future project.

Always hungry for new experiences, this time around Delay delves headfirst
into what he describes as a fruitful love/hate relationship with his
surroundings. Deceivingly light and upbeat upon first listen, flirting with
dub and soul as much as minimal house influences, consequent listens reveal
"The Present Lover" as an album with hidden depth. Seductively smooth and
extremely well produced, improvisation remains integral. With his uncanny
talent for making the innermost audible, Delay invites us to peel away the
layers of producer's sheen, to uncover well-concealed errors, carefully
placed breaks and tutters
that bore their way into the listener's ears.

Following the extremely successful advance vinyl release of "Diskonize
Me/Body Speaking", which last year reached no. 1 on the Deutsch club charts,
the album capitalizes on the energy generated on "Vocalcity" by mixing
dub-worthy frequencies, ethereal whispers, and Delay's singular take on
epic, infectious grooves. This album harkens back to the early
days of disco without ever wavering in its responsibility to the future of
deep house.

Johanna Niemela and Watkinson, vocalists on the first Luomo album, reprise
their roles behind the mic, while the unmistakable voices of Antye
Greie-Fuchs (Laub) and Danish songwriting genius Raz O'Hara deliver an as
yet unforeseen edge to the production. "The Present Lover" also contains a
completely reworked version of "Tessio", which Mathias Schaffhäuser (Ware
Records) called a "hymn for eternity". The track will be released this
spring, with devastatingly funky new mixes by
Moonbootica and Akufen.

Quietly intense yet intensely physical, this is distilled sensuality with a
twist, intelligent music that works above and below the belt. >From its icy
exterior to its red-hot core, from its eclectic minimalism to its disturbing
funkiness, "The Present Lover" waltzes unabashedly into your stereo, messes
with the settings, and leaves you wondering if you'll have to wait another
two and half years for the next Luomo album.

On stage the ostensibly shy Finn turns into an extrovert performer because
"music still feels the best way to express myself, mirror myself and lose
myself in. I'd love to walk around Tokyo, listening to Jazz on a personal
stereo. The contrast between the hectic visual onslaught and complex rhythm
patterns would be amazingly inspirational

― disco stu (disco stu), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Deceivingly light and upbeat upon first listen, flirting with dub and soul as much as minimal house influences, consequent listens reveal "The Present Lover" as an album with hidden depth.

Despite my love for the actual record, I'm going to borrow a phrase from Ned to describe my reaction to this sentence: IT THREATENS TO RIP OUT MY SOUL AND SEND IT WAILING INTO THE ABYSS!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

release note hyperbole, classic or dud?

― disco stu (disco stu), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking dud shit on a shingle craptastic fucking crapness from the void of poo. Not that I'm overstating or anything. (Good citation there, Spencer. ;-))

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 May 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

(And obviously the above refers to release note hyperbole and not Luomo. ;-))

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 May 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Another REFERENCE!

Hey TIM!

At the start of the Tessio video - there is a shot of the new William Gibson NOVEL! Right after the subtitle 'Dream' - Coincidence?

― Michael dieter, Friday, 23 May 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I was wondering who actually sings on Luomo records. Who is the mystery woman with the breathless voice who sings most of the songs? Is she given credit on the new album? And is that Antye Greie-Fuchs (AGF)on 'Talk in danger'?

― Omar (Omar), Friday, 23 May 2003 08:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The voice behind most tracks is Johanna Iivanainen (formerly Niemelä). Vocalcity´s vocals were also done by her..And yes, that´s Antaye Greie-Fuchs on "Talk In Danger".

― greg moniét, Friday, 23 May 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, Antye Greie-Fuchs is now just Antye Greie. Still records as AGF though. (No, I know no-one cares, but hey, I'm a stickler for detail/trivia.)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 23 May 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

As not everyone reads / links to my blog, here is the latest post:

Luomo - The Present Lover

Force Tracks provide info on the forthcoming Luomo album, due June 9th: Luomo - The Present Lover

Amost two and a half years after his first album, "Vocalcity" (Force
Tracks), Vladislav Delay returns with Luomo to explore new dimensions in
upfront vocal house. "The Present Lover" is a self-confessed outsider's
perspective on the club scene, seamlessly blending pop and club elements
to deliver a cunningly original take on pop, house and R&B, replete with
meticulous arrangements and seductive vocals.

Driven by an ever-present inner restlessness, the 26-year-old recently
relocated to Berlin. He remains on the move, constantly performing at
countless clubs and festivals around the world. A man of many guises,
the tireless producer and remixer deconstructs techno as Uusitalo,
explores experimental sound design as Vladislav Delay, and has plans to
blunt hip hop with an as yet unnamed future project.

Always hungry for new experiences, this time around Delay delves
headfirst into what he describes as a fruitful love/hate relationship
with his surroundings. Deceivingly light and upbeat upon first listen,
flirting with dub and soul as much as minimal house influences,
consequent listens reveal "The Present Lover" as an album with hidden
depth. Seductively smooth and extremely well produced, improvisation
remains integral. With his uncanny talent for making the innermost
audible, Delay invites us to peel away the layers of producer's sheen,
to uncover well-concealed errors, carefully placed breaks and stutters
that bore their way into the listener's ears.

Following the extremely successful advance vinyl release of "Diskonize
Me/Body Speaking", which last year reached no. 1 on the Deutsch club
charts, the album capitalizes on the energy generated on "Vocalcity" by
mixing dub-worthy frequencies, ethereal whispers, and Delay's singular
take on epic, infectious grooves. This album harkens back to the early
days of disco without ever wavering in its responsibility to the future
of deep house.

Johanna Niemela and Watkinson, vocalists on the first Luomo album,
reprise their roles behind the mic, while the unmistakable voices of
Antye Greie-Fuchs (Laub) and Danish songwriting genius Raz O'Hara
deliver an as yet unforeseen edge to the production. "The Present Lover"
also contains a completely reworked version of "Tessio", which Mathias
Schaffhäuser (Ware Records) called a "hymn for eternity". The track will
be released this spring, with devastatingly funky new mixes by
Moonbootica and Akufen.

Quietly intense yet intensely physical, this is distilled sensuality
with a twist, intelligent music that works above and below the belt.
From its icy exterior to its red-hot core, from its eclectic minimalism
to its disturbing funkiness, "The Present Lover" waltzes unabashedly
into your stereo, messes with the settings, and leaves you wondering if
you'll have to wait another two and half years for the next Luomo album.

On stage the ostensibly shy Finn turns into an extrovert performer
because "music still feels the best way to express myself, mirror myself
and lose myself in. I'd love to walk around Tokyo, listening to Jazz on
a personal stereo. The contrast between the hectic visual onslaught and
complex rhythm patterns would be amazingly inspirational

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 23 May 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess not everyone reads this thread either.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 23 May 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

That should be some sort of punishable offense, what DJ Martian just did.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 24 May 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the punishment is people begin to figure out to just skip dj martian's posts (taste of own medicine etc.)

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 May 2003 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Revive. This is fairly available on Soulseek now. Go get it. Pitchfork just reviewed it, and sold it a little short IMO.

It's like discovering house music all over again. I haven't been this thrilled with repetitive beats since More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 4 July 2003 05:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i think dom's review was good - at least he was upfront about his previous aversion to house - but then again i have a hard time seeing who they'd give it to, other than maybe nitush or mark richardson, both of whom seem to circle around the genres edges.

they have a long way to go before redeeming themselves for the rooty review, however

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 4 July 2003 06:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. I hadn't read that before. He apparently doesn't like Sex Style either, which is two points off -- one for having no sense of humor, and one for referencing an album that has nothing whatsofuckingever to do with the one he's reviewing.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 4 July 2003 06:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually the whole review has nothing whatsofuckingever to do with anything. Jeez -- can't you turn review assignments down? Can't you say, "No, sorry, I have no idea what I'm talking about"?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 4 July 2003 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but here in the States where that techno shit is everywhere you go -- well, someone's gotta slay the behemoth!!

― Clarke B. (stolenbus), Friday, 4 July 2003 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

hey at last.

amazon uk has september 15th listed as the official release date
for the cd over here.

that's taken some time hasn't it ?

― piscesboy, Thursday, 11 September 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a superb album though i have one problem with it - at the beginning of "what good" the way the vocal has been cut up makes the vocalist {raz?} sound like a south park character - maybe cartman - has anyone else notived this? it really annoys me!

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 11 September 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Soupy Sales fans will recognize it as the voice of White Fang.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 11 September 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

I fell asleep last week with a mix cd playing in my earphones, and woke up with the cooing throat-noise part of "Body Speaking" all echoey and wet in my ears. I was hard as a rock.

This is when I truly began to appreciate Luomo.

― DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

out in U.S. officially in Feb.

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 14 December 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

my review + new Kylie: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0406/matos.php

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Saturday, 7 February 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

I really like this piece - it nails The Present Lover surprisingly quickly and easier (though not enough, probably, to satisfy the doubting Thomases, but then nothing ever does). I had actually been struck by the similarities between Fever and The Present Lover - they frequently share that too-ecstatic quality. My vision of what Kylie's follow-up should be like was something a bit like the poppier moments of The Present Lover, even before I'd heard that record.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

so what about the admission that he's moving in a more "R&B" direction with the next one? it seems like the "logical" step oddly enough, given most of the present lover, his general ambivalence towards electronic dance culture, and the basic pre-house predilections he's always going on about in interviews. (even vocalcity in its way now can kind of be seen as a post-glitch update on disco-funk.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)

(though i do have this feeling that the more he moves towards "proper song form" [or even just "proper song length"] the less interested i will get.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I was thinking that myself -- without saying I'm a Luomo expert, I was imagining this shift and finding it sorta meh.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I sort of agree with that even though I love The Present Lover - it's one of those midpoint in a trajectory moments I think.

You can see the same thing with Kylie going in the other direction - Fever was midpoint in a trajectory between Light Years and Body Language and is much better than both.

"Mirrorball" is an interesting example of an alternative direction Luomo might have gone in with the second album - more minimal but also housier.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not writing him off completely, of course; i just worry that his idea of "r&b" is going to be anita baker or mid-80s luther vandross rather than destiny's child or (even) jagged edge.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Luther Vandross is possibly a better direction than, like, Spacek or something though. It's hard to say.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Who was Luther's producer then anyway? Hm, an AMG question...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)

marcus miller

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah one of the things that i liked (not liked) about the present lover was when the opulence/cheese meter kind of went off the scale ("visitor", the female vox on "what good").

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

...heh, shoulda guessed, he self-produced, though with some sort of session god called Marcus Miller as coproducer.

Dammit xpost. But I provided the link!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"visitor" still makes me cringe a little bit after a few dozen listens, though it's undeniably beautiful in its way.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

what he told me was that he really digs the vocal science in modern R&B (he mentioned Brandy and JT), that they're the easiest way to add a 'soulful' or organic dimension to music and he wants to find new ways to use them. i'm not sure he's going all the way to the songful "real" side, he seems more engaged by how that's implied in modern R&B. anyway, he just finished this one, cut him some slack guys ;]

― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

he "just" finished The Present Lover almost two years ago, if that's what you're referring to.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

is is just me or does "the present lover" lack the forward propulsion of "vocalcity"? i'm glad it's finally released here so now i can go pick it up. i downloaded it awhile back and deleted it pretty quickly, but my memory of it is that it's much more similar to his vladislav delay stuff (multi-dimensional texture overload).

he's playing here in a couple of weeks and i can't decide if i should go hear him or not

off to read the matos' review...

― tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"he "just" finished The Present Lover almost two years ago, if that's what you're referring to."

my bad. i forgot how long it's taken the domestic release to come out. he said he's barely done any new material though.

― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...

i need to hear this.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, you do!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I love this. He's v. good live too.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ama: www.huumerecordings.com (then click when your mouse makes the "no huume" message flash while it's near the "go dead" text).

― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"Huume" is "drug" in Finnish (of the narcotic sort, not a medicine), by the way.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Has any one heard "Running Away" - his new 12" with Raz O'Hara?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

and it's not on soulseek. :(

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It's only a 12" so that should slow things up some. I'm quite keen obv - "What Good" was one of my favourite tracks on The Present Lover (was it Raz on the title track as well?) and I'm hoping these new tracks are sequels of sorts.

Raz also tops on the Alexander Kowalski album...

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"What Good" was one of my favourite tracks on The Present Lover

My favourite probably! I had felt that there was some sort of Luomo backlash brewing, but this thread cheers me up immensely.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Can someone who understands them post the lyrics to the title track?

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I've always heard it as (in the order that the cut-up vocals appear:

I'm the present, the true lover...
Life, whatever (forever?); no nobody does it better, does it better...
Would you be mine? My silver, would you be mine my most moment, my most moment...
hunting for you, hunting for you...
How could you leave, how could you leave it all behind...

I can't remember any other lyrics in it off-hand. It's not supposed to make sense really, although all the vocals imply a lot.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

vladislav is doing the production on the new gold chains and sue cie record...!

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"What Good" is my favorite as well, it's that little gentle, extremely quiet/subtle keyboard thing going on.

"Shelter" is pretty wicked too...live it was a revelation.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

its on soulseek, vinyl rip but at 256, two excellent tracks though the second might have a bassline a little too close for comfort to "beat it" but it still sounds great. first track might be one of the best pop songs of the year.

― twelve, Friday, 17 September 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure a lot of vocals on The Present Lover are just cut up syllables, particularly the main refrain in the 'hunting for you' section.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

who has it on slsk?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

yes please tell me

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Please please you have no idea how happy I would be.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I am nordicskilla on slsk if you want to whisper it.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

WHERE IS A SERIOUS GIRL WHO REALLY AIMS LUOMO

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

what

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

what what (uh)

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you heard it yet, amateur!!!st?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm guessing that is a yes.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i think am's inner noise dude has been peeking out lately

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a rude way to talk about his person.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

well isn't he usually rude? i find his noise side to be quite the gentleman.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

no i haven't heard it yet. :-(

i'll probably need someone to copy it for me since i haf no money. hint hint (what what) (uh).

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I will do it for you. But Jaymc has it and he lives in the same city as you. And you know him.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He is also about to receive my microhouse mixes...eventually.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, maybe i'll ask him, if he can forgive me for not making it to his show.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

am!!st once you get your new imac you can run soulseek/nicotine.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i just spent $650 on plane fare so i'm not buying a new imac anytime soon.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ok well no more complaining about no money for MUSIC then

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Luomo is everything I love about music.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

does he have a giorgio moroder moustache? cos that's about 45% of what i love about music.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

definitely sounds like beat it.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, it's the bass line from billie jean.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

NO IT'S SMOOTH CRIMINAL.. really

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa, i was just talking about the first track. the b-side is direct beat it ripoff, no doubt.

this must have been a michael jackson themed release.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

does the cover feature bobo jacking off a llama?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

that would be a hint.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i drank too much spicy v8 tonight.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone heard this domenico ferarri/luomo thing?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

AMATEURIST, YOU WILL GET THIS AND "ALPHABETICAL" NEXT TIME I SEE YOU!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I am happy that other people think "What Good" is the best track, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"Talk in Danger" is my favorite - babbling subdued-hysterical desire.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Present Lover" could be my favorite Luomo's tune from TPL album, but all Luomo tunes are very astonishing. That moment of The Present Lover song, where rhythm is starting after vocal introduction, is probably one of the most moment where house music is making you start to dance immidiatly. Same feeling I have with "Market" opening track of Vocalcity album...but prologue is more longer. Or I should say I have this feeling every time when I listen Luomo.

btw:
Did anybody hear Domenico Ferrari vs. Luomo - "Kick" remixes ?

― bojan (bojanm), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

the new luomo/raz ohara tracks "give it away" and "on a runaway" are awesome. luomo is just such a genius. he's the only one on the planet whom i can forgive the straight bass drumm.

imagine he put some more effort into drum programming!

― xenografia, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

he's the only one on the planet whom i can forgive the straight bass drumm.
imagine he put some more effort into drum programming!

House music will NEVER DIE. Also, the 4/4 kick is absolutely intrinsic to Luomo's music.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i go for "So You" as the finest thing on TPL.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

me heart luomo!

― hector (hector), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

xenografia let's be friends

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

house music is long dead, spencer, at least as a creative force, and vocalcity was at the same time its glourious summary and one of its pinnacles. 4/4 kick is not intrinsic to his music. on "the present lover" he's trying to do uk-garage. he doesn't quite succeed rhythmically, yet it's a good track. sparse breakbeats work well with his way of cutting together vocal samples. in fact what he does with vocals is not unlike uk-garage's "vocal science", except that where the latter takes its rhythms from dancehall/ragga, luomo looks back further in time, to dub.

― xenografia, Friday, 17 September 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

now i owe jaymc two serbian man-hugs

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

house music is long dead, spencer, at least as a creative force

The first time I heard this was in 1991. And then again in 1994. and again in... I remember when a clerk at Amoeba told me that they removed the house section because drum n bass was "where everything was headed". In fact, people have been declaring the death of the 4/4 kick since the mid-70s.

Also, Luomo's actual stab at garage-y syncopation happens on "Melt (AGF Dlay edit), and it's actually quite successful. However, it's not as successful as the slow burn 4/4 thump on the album - on 'Vocalcity' it's like he actually makes us believe that the heart beats at a constant 120 bpm. As for UK Garage's vocal science and how it "takes its rhythms from dancehall/ragga", well, half of UK Garage is 4/4 and the vocal science comes directly from American Garage House music - specifically the dubs. Todd Edwards turned it into a science and he only records in 4/4 (although I wish he'd mix it up a bit). I'd be cautious about the notion of 'progressing' 'beyond' 4/4. Also, please note that I love 2-Step, grime and breaks as much as anyone...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 18 September 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

god spencer shut up house music is dead!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

actually didn't we decide in that great house debate that it was the style of music least prone to major innovation (ie. breaking its own rules and becoming something else) but at the same time most accomodating to (natch) micro-innovation?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Which thread as that? Please don't tell me (or rather please tell me) the thread name was "The Great House Debate".

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Saturday, 18 September 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

as that = was that (obviously)

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Saturday, 18 September 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

looser thread!

― suzisweeps, Saturday, 18 September 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"the vast majority of house music isn't very good"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Reading that thread again... ouch.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

let's never fight again baby

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"the present lover" remains an album that i have a great deal of affection for but almost never get the urge to listen to.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i can still remember the anticipatory build-up to getting it tho.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny thing about that thread was that we were talking about the Jaxx and Luomo before their most recent albums were released. It's like BJ came down on your side and Luomo on mine. Ha ha maybe that's why I like the Luomo album so much - I'm probably not above that.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

heh i think the problem is that that thread was one of those fleeting ideas that pass through your head in a moment of disillusion or depression (like "maybe we should think about seeing other people") that should NEVER be uttered aloud for the can of worms it opens

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

plus some people's criticism makes me doubt myself more than others (see also rob them co's perhaps unintentional sneaky sideways jabs on spizzazzz - or is that hubris on my part?) so I was getting well worked up. Of course at other times in other moods i've felt exactly the same way about house as you did on that thread. Although I've been fairly upbeat about it of late. These sorts of things are usually strongly influenced by one's most recent three cd purchases in the area.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

the point about micro-innovation otm, house may have taken its time assimilating electroclash properly, and had an iffy 2003 as a result but boy has it done so this year.

the difference is massive.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha I think I thought "yes, house has successfully digested electroclash; the mission is complete" when I heard DJ T's "Freemind" as part of your mix Ronan. Although really Get Physical has its aesthetic locked down so perfectly that it's hard to imagine where on earth they'd go from here.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...

This is tied w/that Chic Sister Sledge rec as the sexiest thing I've ever heard. I wanna fuck.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 10 March 2005 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard this whole thing while I was shopping at Amoeba the other night. It's better than I remembered. The coke-babble of "Talk in Danger" is still my favorite.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

It's better than I remembered.

You d-d-don't like it? :(

― Baby BobO (nordicskilla), Friday, 1 July 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

In case people are wondering, yes I am just going to keep the Luomo threads active until he releases another record.

― Baby BobO (nordicskilla), Friday, 1 July 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

I still love this record so so much. SOSO much. I listened to it on the way to work today. And incidently I thought I'd mention, although Tim remains one of the best commentators on this thread re: present lover, the best post is obv:

I fell asleep last week with a mix cd playing in my earphones, and woke up with the cooing throat-noise part of "Body Speaking" all echoey and wet in my ears. I was hard as a rock.
This is when I truly began to appreciate Luomo.

-- DarrensCoq (darrensco...), December 14th, 2003.

― deej.., Thursday, 28 July 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Especially because i know exactly what he means! That motherfucking bassline....

― deej.., Thursday, 28 July 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

Anyone seeing him on his current tour? I'm heading out tonight to catch him @ Enormous Room in Cambridge, MA ....

LOS ANGELES, USA
Luomo live @ King King
2005-Nov-02

DETROIT, USA
Luomo live @ Oslo
2005-Nov-04

NEW YORK, USA
Luomo live @ Rothko
2005-Nov-05

BOSTON, USA
Luomo live
2005-Nov-06

NEW YORK, USA
Vladislav Delay live @ Rothko
2005-Nov-07

BOGOTA, COLOMBIA
Vladislav Delay live
2005-Nov-09

MEDELLIN, COLOMBIA
Luomo live
2005-Nov-11

CALI, COLOMBIA
Luomo live (TBC)
2005-Nov-12

BOGOTA, COLOMBIA
Luomo live
2005-Nov-13

DIJON, FRANCE
Vladislav Delay live
2005-Nov-25

BARCELONA, SPAIN
Luomo live
2005-Dec-09

― +, Monday, 7 November 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

got an e-mail from him a while back saying he was about to start work on the new luomo album and was hoping to have it out early next year, i think

don't know if that's common knowledge or not, but, there it is
i'm excited

― nutrasweet glider, Monday, 7 November 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

i'm definitely excited too.

i went to the show last night in ny (as luomo) and it was pretty incredible. he kept the underlying bass and drums to his songs but added effects to the vocals that sounded like todd edwards screwed, chopped and glitched.

― natedey (ndeyoung), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:30 (twenty years ago)

Saw him live tonight and he was awesome. The vocals were chopped up with such incredibly smooth and lush precision it was unreal. He played some of his remixes, as well as other stuff which might be new material. One track even had the bassline to "Bad" by Michael Jackson!

Also the word from the man himself is that the new album will be out in April.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 7 November 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

Michael, his track "On a Runaway" has the bassline of "Beat It", is that what you mean?

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 7 November 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

I hit the NYC show and was pretty disappointed.

I saw him twice in the span of a week two years ago around WMC (once in Miami, once in NY) and things didn't seem like they had progressed much since then, with both his familiarity with the live rig or his desire to take the sound to any uncharted place.

I agree the vocal arrangements were good, but none of the supporting effects were tweaked or pushed hard enough. The previous shows I'd seen I remember as smoother. It seemed like the glitchy departure from those was a bit forced.

That said, I'm still looking forward to the album.

― scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

Michael, his track "On a Runaway" has the bassline of "Beat It", is that what you mean?

There's also "Give It Away," which has the bassline of "Smooth Criminal."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that was it. I guess I should have paid more attention to the Running Away 12"!

xpost

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

Surprise!! LUOMO's new album is expected to be released next FALL...

― wacky racer, Monday, 10 April 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

what a surprise

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 10 April 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

better surprise!! Vlad's new Uusitalo release is better than either Luomo album.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 10 April 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

that surprises me.

― danny invincible (michael w.), Monday, 10 April 2006 23:54 (twenty years ago)

the uusitalo is killer.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Uusitalo sounds like Vocalcity outtakes, okayish but it misses just that little "something". Better than his boring Delay stuff though.

― Omar (Omar), Friday, 14 April 2006 10:35 (twenty years ago)

"boring delay stuff"? (weeps) i love the delay stuff!

i likw what i've heard of the new uusitalo.

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:35 (twenty years ago)

er i meant "like"!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:36 (twenty years ago)

those exclamation points are a dangerous weapon

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:42 (twenty years ago)

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― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:45 (twenty years ago)

stop it! you're a journalist for chrissakes!

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:46 (twenty years ago)

haha clearly your attempt to bait me into using them has worked

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:46 (twenty years ago)

i'll get on the rest of that this evening geeta.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

thanks jed!

aw jess it's ok to be happy. c'mon let's see you smile!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 13:08 (twenty years ago)

okayish but it misses just that little "something"

agreed

― lf (lfam), Friday, 14 April 2006 13:36 (twenty years ago)

delay stuff is hit or miss, but four quarters was great. that, along with the nice rhythm and sound remix and this album (okay-ish could be the worst criticism...) - its all enough for me to begin drooling for the new luomo.

― natedey (ndeyoung), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)

i am psyched for the uusitalo, a side of VD i didn't know existed till last year when i did a search for italo on my harddrive and wsa like oh what's this and clicked Dutch Wallpaper which sounds like the most intimidating club ever. what a find.

I'm also psyched about his upcoming livIe in my town and esp. looking forward because a friend tells me he puts on a good show making love to his equipment.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Luomo was fantastic!

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:59 (twenty years ago)

On first listen, the Uusitalo album sounded a bit samey to me, certainly not as striking as Luomo.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)

does anyone have a link to the Luomo and Vladislav Delay albums for (legit) d/l?

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.huumeclothing.com/nohuume

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:18 (twenty years ago)

thanks, jed_

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

woah. that is amazing. he's just putting the present lover (and an absurd number of other tracks) for free?

― natedey (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah it seems crazy. you can't get to that link from huumeclothing.com anymore though, it's just that i saved that old link from the time before TPL and Vocalcity were reissued. maybe they forgot to deactivate the page even though they deactivated the link to it?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I remember I was dumbfounded when I found that link and then frustrated when I couldn't find it again later so that I could finish downloading.

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

http://www.downthemall.net/wp-content/themes/mio/img/footer.png

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 18:32 (twenty years ago)

(and buy what you can)

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Anyone know of anything about "Paper Tigers," his new one?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dotshop.se/ds/release.php?code=HUUME10CD
Paper Tigers
Huume (HUUME10CD)
This item will be released on October 16th, 2006

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

very excited!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

eeeeeeee

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an R&B version of "Tessio" on it.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

And a single in September! http://www.dotshop.se/ds/release.php?code=HUUME11

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

"An unsatisfiable producer" :)

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh my gosh

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

Filed under:
- House/Disco/Dance/Beats
- Indie/Rock/Pop/Folky

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

"house disco dance beats" is my favo

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

Someone who has heard the single told me tonight that it was "very stripped down, not as lush and full bodied as the last record"

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

Quick search on hype machine tells me it was on some blog a while back... but no more & not even cached now. Surprised that one slipped by ILM!

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

some novel copy protection here! :D

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think anyone's going to notice if we keep the info in this thread!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 20 July 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

Those sound samples are promising, though it's hard to say really - I think a lot of the time with Luomo what pushes a track over from greatness into brilliance is that he knows exactly how much to repeat a loop and exactly how quickly or slowly to build it up, break it down. Just hearing a minute or so in isolation doesn't give away many clues wrt how great the full track will be.

It seems like he's resolved to some extent the house/glitch divide thing he was toying with on The Present Lover: the stuff here sounds both less glitchy and less straightforwardly pumping - elements of both stuttery early 90s house and 2-step here. I guess the Delay remix of Rhythm & Sound's "Truly" was the blueprint.

Also interesting to note the delayed reactions to a few trends: as per regulations circa 2004 there's a schaffel track and a jazzy torch song here!

Odd that there are no male vocals though - the 3 tracks with male vocals on The Present Lover also happened to be the 3 best tracks.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 July 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

i totally disagree with yr last point.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 July 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know about that either, Tim. Debatable.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

The Present Lover has weirdly become my favorite music to listen to on airplanes.

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

despite the fact that the setting it evokes couldn't be more different.

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

My favorites are Body Speaking, What Good and Shelter....mmm or maybe the Present Lover instead of Body Speaking.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

the one with the cartman vocals is the worst Luomo track.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

what on earth are you talking about

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

My current fave is Could Be Like This

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

"What Good" - vocals by cartman.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Weird that no one has mentioned 'So You' in the past couple posts. I think it's my favorite track on TPL.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

it's mine too :)

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

i'll check the samples later but your claim that his 'truly' remix is a touchstone is very exciting to me, tim.

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

i guess i should just listen but i need to run so a question for you: how do these relate to his 'smiling off' remix?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't understand how the vox on "What Good" sound anything like cartman.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

>i guess i should just listen but i need to run so a question for you: how do these relate to his 'smiling off' remix?

um, not really at all?

that remix reminded me of the delay work more than luomo.

― natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't understand how the vox on "What Good" sound anything like cartman.

they totally do. i can't listen to it for that reason.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

The Present Lover has weirdly become my favorite music to listen to on airplanes.

Ha! I bought my copy at Zürich Airport...

― willem -- (willem), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Im liking the sound samples of the new one- definite 2 step influence in the kind of jittering-ness of some of it, also the broken-breakbeat feel in parts... like he's playing between 4/4 and breaks love it///

oh yeh and teh baby crying noises are nice too...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god that fucking baby ruins my concentration every time

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Look it's just not an open question okay: "The Present Lover", "Could Be Like This" and "What Good" are the three best tracks on The Present Lover. I like to think i'm pretty accomodating to opposing arguments on ILM but I have to draw the line somewhere.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Tim, you're going to need to back yourself up here if you're going to post something like that.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'd agree with Tim if it wasn't for "Shelter!"

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

The baby is driving me nuts. "The Tease is Over" sounds like it might become my new favorite song, though. GAH I JUST WANT THIS RIGHT NOW.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

They're the three rushiest tracks on the album but I think they're also the saddest, the ones which seem most openly desirous and most devastated by the chasm between desire and possession. And I think that on "What Good" and "The Present Lover" the character of the record comes through most clearly, perhaps b/c they're so songful. This is less true for "Could Be Like This" due to the reduced presence of vocals, but "Could Be Like This" has the most impossibly perfect, beautiful groove to make up for it. The bit where the groove breaks down and then fires up again with a new bassline is one of my favourite moments in music ever.

(of course I'm not entirely serious with the last post, I'm just reacting to jed's vehemence. The space that separates the above three tracks from the first track, "Body Speaking" and "Shelter" in terms of quality is practically non-existent, it's more a case of "I if had to choose three...")

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

Okay-- as long as it's 'if I had to choose three' and not 'you are all idiot morons if you don't agree.' I do think that 'So You' is as songful as 'The Present Lover' or 'What Good,' though.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Is Sassu Ripati married and/or have a child? I'm wondering if there is some sort of inside joke behind the baby noises.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Tim i love it. in light of your post i just listened to "Could Be Like This" like it was the first time i had really listened to it. i can't get over this, admittely crazy, hurdle with "What Good" though, hey.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder if the baby noises were put on by Huume or soulseduction?

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

He's married to AGF isn't he?

― jng (jng), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think the baby noises can be interpreted a lot of ways, perhaps as an deliberately melodramatic "buy this record or my kids will starve!" statement (though he's said before he definitely doesn't rely on his music to live, I think).

I think it's pretty funny. Very hard to listen to though!

soulseduction don't add noise usually I've heard copy bleeps on stuff before, I think they just sample whatever they get, often well in advance of release dates (i,e. promo).

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Tim, how can you be so wrong? :( No song on The Present Lover could possibly be better than 'Body Speaking', by even the smallest of increments.

Luomo threads are so my favourite ILM threads.

― permanent revolution (cis), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

No song on The Present Lover could possibly be better than 'Body Speaking'

Sure, they're called 'Visitor' and 'Shelter'. :)

(but yeah I'm also in the 'What Good'-not-really-that-good(hoho) camp.)

― Omar (Omar), Friday, 21 July 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

"what good" is teh best.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 July 2006 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

"So You" is best, but Tim's argument is strong nevertheless. "The Present Lover" and "What Good" are like the album's Everests, these amazingly layered and high-peaking and towering wholes, but I think "So You" does what it does (which is narrower and smaller in some ways than the other two) more perfectly.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with Jaymc and Tim, "What Good" was the first track I unreservedly loved (sans "Present Lover"). Its these really quiet subtle little melodic noises in the background a couple minutes in, right before the swooning key change, that do it for me.

"Body Speaking" has that sumptuous bassline.

I wonder what I'm missing about "So You"? I need to listen to this again.

Non-album songs, he has some good ones - "Valssi"!

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

it's the 'ah oh oh oh oh' vocal line that drops on top at about three minutes in that makes Body Speaking the best, I think, the way the vowels are round and self-contained as a perfect sphere, feel slightly held-back against the beat, and yet can't help but fall into the track and be pushed forward by the bassline. It's all shades of pearl and plush and shimmer.

okay i have to listen to the album again now.

― stop moving. (cis), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah this is making me want to hear it again... the highlights are *swoon* but I do tend to skip a lot, Vocalcity is (way) more consistent, but the sameness hurts it as well.

Hope the new one's good!

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I only ever skip "Cold Lately"

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I played 'Talk In Danger' when I DJ'd last night and it went over well. Some of the vocals on that still remind me of Enigma, though.

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

why does no one care about the new Uusitalo album? it's really good, people!

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

why does no one care about the new Uusitalo album? it's really good, people!
-- jed_ (colin_o_har...), July 21st, 2006.

******

completely agree. the Uusitalo album is very good. bought that and SCSI-9 new one on the same day and it made the SCSI-9 sound thin and 1 dimensional. have since gotten into the SCSI-9 but the point is, the Uusitalo is excellent.

― biz (brother loves dub), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

This is all true, but how come nobody ever mentioned Four Rooms people? that is one stunning record.

― Jena (JenaP), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Four Quarters?

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

ha-ha, sorry. that's what i meant. seems like we never really talked about it here, though i find myself coming back to it and it sounds fresh and astounding every time.

― Jena (JenaP), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

i could never really get into it. but i'll try harder ;)

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

every time i hear his delay work, i can't help think how 'out there' he is in terms of production, there's no-one that sounds even remotely close.

― Jena (JenaP), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

four quarters is a mindfuck to get through but you feel ready to do anything afterwards

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Saturday, 22 July 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

i love how, toward the end of the last track, he lets a linear bass line through, then adds some pads, and you start thinking a melody's about to flesh out, but then he dumps it all in a sea of reverb, sublime.

― Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 22 July 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

Tulenkantaja is good, though I think that I mught be a bigger fan of VapaaI, which wasn't true for a while.

Jena, have you heard Delay's Anima? I like it a little better than Four Quarters, which is saying something.

― trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 22 July 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I've heard it and it's good as well. It's one full hour of the same track though, which makes it a bit of an endeavour. Four Quarters is similar in the way he allows for his pieces to develop in time, although it is 4 times richer as well. I really think he's in his own little world with this record. It sounds completely free, moody yet confident at the same time, I don't think I'd ever heard anything quite like it before.

― Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 22 July 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes when i feel like a need a little something more in my life i just hum the bassline to she-center and that is enough

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 27 July 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

The whole advance promo CD has baby crying sounds every one to two minutes!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

The whole ~~advance promo~~ CD has baby crying sounds every one to two minutes!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, sorry for you people who get promo CDs. That's the first time I've even thought such a thing.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

(claps hands at thought of new Luomo, once again)

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm preferring to think it's not the promo's anti-copy trick but "the next stage in Luomo's development".

Actually the baby wail makes me think of the opening to Robbie Hardkiss's Mixed Messages mix.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Are you that somebody?

― natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

So, asides from baby-crying noises, how is it?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I remember the first time i got a promo like that. It was Madvillain and the album just dropped out to a robot voice every 45 seconds or so. I thought Madlib had finally completely lost his mind. Amazon didn't even realize it was a watermark and they put the promo versions of the song on their site, which i presume are there to this day.

Yeah, stamping your songs like that is a terrible idea.

― Morgan Patrick (public_radio), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I've got to say it *does* make you want to get an official version, if you end up liking the music.

I actually found the Modeselektor promo album from last year much more entertaining then the retail disc. The promo album had a radio show theme (complete with purposely dumb DJ voiceovers and skits) and each song was chopped to half its length.

The best (and un-intentionally hilarious) use of this was on the recent Crosstown rebels mix "Get Lost" by Damian Lazurus. The first cd has got a lot of gloomy/chilly minimal on it, and so it's interdispersed with a detached/gothy voice saying: "for promotional use only" in character.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

what rhymes with 'promotional purposes?' Let's just work it into the lyrics somehow.

― Morgan Patrick (public_radio), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh btw this Luomo record kinda didn't do it for me. There was something about every track that was just... mildly jarring. I think it was 'Body Speaking' when the vocalist was cooing. "ooh, ooh, oh, oh oh... ou, ou, ou oh oh oh, and then she just busts out with an 'oww, eeeeew!' like she was making love on the track and then someone put their finger in her butt.

― Morgan Patrick (public_radio), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm confused about why you think thats a bad thing.

TMI

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

You'd probably make an 'oww, eeeewww!' sound too. So what's the problem?

Seriously, though, I think that TPL is one of the least jarring 'dance' albums I listen to.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 10 August 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

So when will I be able to get this in a listenable form? The crying baby sounds are making me lactate. Very embarrassing.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

i always thought kenan was a guy!

― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

some are still wondering what he is

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

i quite like the baby noise! and i think it's because it reminds me of "are you that somebody".

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 11 August 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

okay i always liked this album but i just downloaded a proper rip of it (mine was 128kbps and had missing tracks) and its like i get it i get it. body speaking is like. i mean. i can't.

― judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

this is like sex music right? like it would probably sound totally ridiculous if you actually did that. like how i always imagine certain guys putting "smooth operator" when they take chicks back to their apartment to like bang them.

― judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

come on and put some cloze, on

― j., Saturday, 6 April 2013 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

I forgot how perfect this sounds on blazing hot summer days

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 July 2013 13:06 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

and on snowy november ones

― j., Thursday, 7 November 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)

thought about reviving the vocalcity thread with some vaguely phatic approval

― Nilmar Jr (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)

that was this morning

― Nilmar Jr (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)

so it wore off?

― j., Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)

there isn't a vocalcity thread though, just one comparing it to farben and eugh matthew herbert or someone like that

― Nilmar Jr (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:02 (twelve years ago)

does nostormo like luomo? there might just be an exiting voPOLLcity thread in the works

― Nilmar Jr (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:02 (twelve years ago)

oh god don't even joke

― sleeve, Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:08 (twelve years ago)

lol

― CardiacsPrincesse69xxx (Matt P), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:13 (twelve years ago)

more like noPOLLo

― CardiacsPrincesse69xxx (Matt P), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:13 (twelve years ago)

"eugh matthew herbert"

SUGGEST BAN

― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:18 (twelve years ago)

he is such a zany man

― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 8 November 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)

some herbert is really good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng0fVPXVBs

― brimstead, Friday, 8 November 2013 04:34 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng0fVPXVBs

― brimstead, Friday, 8 November 2013 04:36 (twelve years ago)

oops

― brimstead, Friday, 8 November 2013 04:38 (twelve years ago)

Herbert was pretty good around the time people still talked about microhouse, it's only since about 2004 that he's become really insufferable.

I have never been able to get into Farben's Textstar despite multiple attempts but I love Luomo.

― Matt DC, Friday, 8 November 2013 12:30 (twelve years ago)

Never got into Farben nor even Vocalcity but Perfect Lover is such a classic

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 November 2013 15:17 (twelve years ago)

farben is cool but that is from the perspective of approaching him via mille plateaux etc, i can see why it would be a bit dry for someone entering that world from mnml techno or the rest of ~microhouse~ or whatever

― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 8 November 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)

i remember vocalcity and textstar being talked about together but temperamentally or in sound design terms they are little alike

― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 8 November 2013 15:24 (twelve years ago)

The thing people never talk about with Luomo is how full and satisfying his basslines are, not like in an oafish UK bass kind of way, but they're really sumptuous and glue the other elements of the track together so well, you could ride them for hours.

― Matt DC, Friday, 8 November 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

that is because they are so satisfied they don't have time to talk about basslines

― j., Friday, 8 November 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)

xp Matt that's exactly what initially drew me to him. How does one make synth basses do those sort of things?

― Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

what makes you the stranger?

― j., Tuesday, 4 February 2014 15:38 (twelve years ago)

eleven months pass...

i'm the present, the true lover

― j., Monday, 12 January 2015 14:46 (eleven years ago)

best album

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:08 (eleven years ago)

Word

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 12 January 2015 19:09 (eleven years ago)

ow oh ao ao oooo oooooo

― j., Monday, 12 January 2015 20:12 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

don't say it's false.

i'm only following my thoughts.

― j., Sunday, 8 March 2015 18:25 (eleven years ago)

Perfect album.

― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:45 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

some of the synths on "what good" are blowing my mind

― J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 January 2019 09:46 (seven years ago)

One of my fave albums. Reminds me of Barthes.

― nathom, Sunday, 27 January 2019 09:58 (seven years ago)

It's no Vocalcity. Both of them pale next to Karhunainen, however.

― pomenitul, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:54 (seven years ago)

I guess we don’t look for the same thing in Luomo but this is just no contest for me. Present Lover is super classic, the rest is far behind.

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 27 January 2019 19:18 (seven years ago)

Karhunainen is great but lol at the idea that it holds a candle to either of the first two luomo albums.

― Tim F, Monday, 28 January 2019 22:40 (seven years ago)

luomo is the only music i've listened to for the last like 3 weeks

― J0rdan S., Monday, 28 January 2019 22:44 (seven years ago)

I'm cleaning up black coffee and feta cheese

― omar little, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:06 (seven years ago)

Jordan question:

The Weeknd:Vampire Weekend::Luomo:”the rhythm of the saints”?

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 28 January 2019 23:18 (seven years ago)

That doesn't look like the right order for that comparison.

― Tim F, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:20 (seven years ago)

I would still love to see it explained

― or something, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:54 (seven years ago)

Also thanks for reminding me to check Convivial again

― or something, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:59 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

The next Luomo album, 2003's The Present Lover, was a major label misadventure

annoyed to be reminded that this sentiment is common enough that apparently it had to be stated in the resident advisor vocalcity rewind review

― lowercase (eric), Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:50 (five years ago)

Dumbfuckery of the highest order.

― Matt DC, Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:52 (five years ago)

three years pass...

still one of my favorite and most-listened-to records

― here 1st (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:52 (two years ago)

Same here. Instantly takes me back to 2004 too. Walking round a rainy Barcelona. Techno and house had collided with radio pop and things would never be the same again

― mmmm, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

one year passes...

― jaymc, Sunday, 16 March 2025 03:58 (one year ago)

What else has been good, that sounds like this, since this?

― piscesx, Sunday, 16 March 2025 18:22 (one year ago)

Unai’s A Love Moderne on Force Tracks kinda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=299B_QVNRVg

― brimstead, Sunday, 16 March 2025 19:19 (one year ago)

Thanks for making me pull this out. It my top 5 of that decade for sure. And just like you, so evocative of a very specific personal time and place.

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 16 March 2025 19:33 (one year ago)

Yeah same, thanks for reminding me how long it's been. I love this album but seem to have memory-holed it for half a decade or so, which is weird cos a lot of my listening is obsessively reviving the stuff I loved from around this time.

― LocalGarda, Sunday, 16 March 2025 19:37 (one year ago)

One of the greatest albums ever.

― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 16 March 2025 20:19 (one year ago)

It's held up so well, the production is outrageous.

― LocalGarda, Sunday, 16 March 2025 20:32 (one year ago)

I don't think anything really sounds like Vocalcity. The closest Luomo project is Paper Tigers from 2006, which I need to revisit.

The Vladislav Delay bandcamp page has a subscription that I've opted back into after a break, and it looks like Sasu's been posting a lot of stems, outtakes from old projects, previews of upcoming work, and genre experiments, but there's either just not that much Luomo material on the shelf or he's kind of done with it for now.

All kinds of great stuff, though! And he's pretty active in responding to comments and questions.

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 17 March 2025 14:21 (one year ago)

This sounds great. I think I will subscribe. My only hesitation in doing so is the same as it is for any other artist or writer I like on Bandcamp, Substack or Patreon: I know that, at some point, I will have to cancel. Ironically, it is this preemptive guilt that has prevented me from supporting more folks, but there's only so much discretionary spending to go around!

mh, any highlights you would recommend? There's a lot here! I'm less interested in the officially released material, as I have a lot of that already, and I don't really have a use for the stems, though those may be interesting to hear at least once from the perspective of trying to reverse engineer Sasu's process. My favorite of his projects, aside from Luomo and VD, is stuff like Uusitalo and Conoco, if that helps.

― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 17 March 2025 16:51 (one year ago)

I could probably write up some notes. I started digging through the backlog over the weekend and there are a handful of standouts and a lot of experiments, some more interesting than others. I'm intrigued by the ones tagged "vd5" that I assume are from an upcoming Vladislav Delay Quintet album

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 17 March 2025 17:11 (one year ago)

I don't think anything really sounds like Vocalcity. The closest Luomo project is Paper Tigers from 2006, which I need to revisit.

For whatever reason had never listened to Paper Tigers, but there's a permanent shrine to Vocalcity in my soul so checking it out now.

― rainbow calx (lukas), Monday, 17 March 2025 20:42 (one year ago)

What else has been good, that sounds like this, since this?

― piscesx, Sunday, March 16, 2025 2:22 PM (yesterday)

the weeknd - "rockin"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox2RGWOOdE

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 March 2025 20:59 (one year ago)

holy shit, you weren't kidding - that might be the closest match that I've ever heard!

― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 18:12 (one year ago)

I wish it was better

― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 18:27 (one year ago)

i feel like it has to be intentional xp

i love that song

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 18:50 (one year ago)

Sasu has co-production credits on a Tinashe song and it's nice but just sounds like of like a Burial-esque garage production

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 19:51 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDckPd9n6Qs

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 19:52 (one year ago)

i have listened to this album like once a week for years

― here 1st (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 17:27 (one year ago)

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