History has erased them

Check the reference books and the compilations and see how many of them omit The Vibrators but include such relative latecomers / nonetities as 999, Angelic Upstarts, Chelsea, Cockney Rejects, The Cortinas, The Depressions, The Drones, Eater, The Exploited, The Lurkers, The Members, Menace, Suburban Studs, UK Subs, etc. etc. etc.

The Hothouse Flowers
Northern Uproar
Oceanic
Gin Blossoms
Lolly

Transvision Vamp

Pest 5000
Bunnygrunt
Weeping in Fits and Starts
Bootbeast
High Risk Group
Good Evening Manchester
Bullets For Pussy
Bloody F. Mess
Balloon Guy
Jonny Polonsky

Audio Sports
Hot Toasters
Playmate
Soap Joh Henshi
Sekiri

ans to threead: sailor

Shakatak

(who did the NZ-nu-rock thing before (and better than) the Datsuns et al and seem to have been completely forgotten)

The Hummingbirds.

Boxcar had two really fantastic singles (fantastic mainly because they were shameless New Order facsimiles) and it was all a bit downhill from there.

Australians now own this thread.

(Didn't they allegedly try to erase a music jounalist?)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about Catatonia? It was only a few years ago they were pretty much ubiquitous, dominating the album and singles charts and the music press and now you'd be hard pressed to see any mention of them anywhere.

Maybe they're not completely forgotten, just slightly obscure. Hmmm.

Shreikback had a rareities re-issue out not too long ago (well,...2000) http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004TRFK.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg.

I don't think it's quite fair to compare the estimable likes of Shriekback and Tuxedomoon to flash-in-the-pan piffle like Technotronic.

All great bands, too.

Men At Work
The Belle Stars
Dollar
Buck's Fizz
Pilot
The Foundations
Kajagoogoo
Blancmange
Classix Nouveaux
My Life Story
Ruth

i don't know for sure but i think Mark Seymour is now a solo artiste.

They had 3 entries in the latest edition of Virgin's "All Time Top 1000 Albums". Doesn't sound "forgotten" to me (and btw. Family had one album in that list too)

I knew that -- H&C officially disbanded sometime in the mid-'90s and Mark Seymour the solo artist entertained the Australian Olympic athletes back in 2000 -- I was just inquiring whether they were just obscure or practically being erased from music history.

Occasionally VH1 Classic surprises me by throwing in "Throw Your Arms Around Me" in the "All Star Jams" block, and I do remember seeing "Is There Anybody In There?" and "Talking to a Stranger" (I doubt I can express to anyone how much I adore that song) early in the year, but it doesn't seem as though they get much attention these days, aside from the odd mention of, "You know, Russell Crowe is a big Hunnas fan."

Well, yeah. I think Russell is a fine actor, and I even had a crush on him for a couple of years ca. "The Insider", but, um, so? I would rather there be more fans around here of the Hunnas, or that the local radio station that plays '80s music included H&C in their playlist.

Oh well. Just dreaming.

Now onto Geir's post:

I don't think Men at Work are "erased". I think as long as there are people such as myself out there who at least remember "Classic MTV" and "The Big '80s", Men at Work will never be erased. The Belle Stars? Didn't they do "Iko Iko" for the "Rain Man" soundtrack? I liked that cover. Bucks Fizz? I don't think ANYONE could forget THEM. And anyway, weren't they going for a long period of time after the '80s were over? I thought they were the British equivalent of Menudo. Kajagoogoo? Never forgettable, not as long as "Too Shy" keeps getting airplay on your everyday generic "best mix of the '80s, '90s, and today" radio station. Blancmange? You might have a point there. Really horrible, too, as I thought Blancmange were a good group. Classix Nouveaux, being erased? Over my dead body! Sal Solo & co. will NEVER be forgotten, not if I can help it! *attempts evil cackle, coughs*

Five Thirty
Ratcat
Blue Aeroplanes
House of Freaks
Straitjacket Fits
Titanic Love Affair
School of Fish
Jellyfish
Catherine
The Dylans
Gumball
Eugenius

Nitzer Ebb
My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Republica
Das EFX
Levitation
Mega City Four
Best Kissers In The World
Think Tree
Rise Robots Rise
Cell
Sponge
Summercamp
Babes In Toyland
Pond
Material Issue

Ned's Atomic Dustbin, if no-one's mentioned them yet.

Yeah, what DID happen to Babes in Toyland? That was just a Bermuda Triangle disappearance.

Ahhhhhhahahahaha.

Also:
Jeffrey Osbourne
Omar
Raw Stylus

Jellyfish probably have a bigger following now than back when the band existed. There are lots of people like me who love the band despite not having discovered them until long after they broke up.

There is an entire international underground of Jellyfish influenced "soft" powerpop acts.

http://www.birdpages.co.uk/images3/jellyfishfanclub.gif

This thread makes me MAD!

of course if they'd been albums by Ned that would be a different story

Indeed.

In the interest of fairness, I'd like to rebut:

Cake (well, I live in the Bay Area and they still come around fairly often)
Hum (and I used to live in Champaign with many many people who are still hardcore fans)
Wallflowers (dude, come on, it's Bob Dylan's kid; they're not going anywhere)
Toadies (I have friends who still talk about them, albeit more often as a punchline)
Drop Nineteens (ditto)
Ned's Atomic Dustbin (I still own God Fodder. It's a good album! Really!)

There was a few good bands in Bloomington around that time that never got to make a record. Trailside Killers/Joyride/Speed Luxury was a great band.

I'm not trying to take it away from you, Carey....so long as you keep your grubby little mitts off my Birdland disc.

Hum may have been erased from history but yet their records still go for shiteloads on eBay, inasmuch as that means anything

Erm, well, all people seem to remember of them these days is "Making Your Mind Up", those detachable skirts, winning the Eurovision, and Cheryl Baker. Nearly everything from "Making Your Mind Up" onwards seems to have been erased from history, which is a shame because every song after that from the original line-up was superior in every way. I got the "Greatest Hits" (circa 1984/5) on vinyl secondhand, and "Making Your Mind Up" doesn't appear until the second last track on side 1, and is immediately undercut by the awesome Sparks-like "When We Were Young" which follows immediately after. Before is the equally impressive "Now Those Days Are Gone", which features the group in acapella for almost the opening half of the song! The opening track was actually their biggest hit "My Camera Never Lies". "Land of Make Believe", which probably the only other song most people remember from Bucks Fizz, is relegated to the opening of side 2.

No if and buts about it, Buzz Fizz was definately hard done by!!!!

You are not alone. ;-) They readily fall into the 'great band but good GOD almighty kill the singer' category.

(either)...means you all aren't totally daft and acknowledge that, even though they've never had one platinum nor even gold album, are a very influential band who also is still writing, recording, and performing very amazing music right now.

(or)...proves that history has erased them, so much so that their existence has been completely wiped out of your minds, and thus you can't even remember them existing to notice they're "disappearance".

(I'm k-excited cuz I get to see them play in Cincy next Friday)

Peter Prescott told me (at the L.A. MOB show, August 2002) that all the master tapes are in a vault, it’s just a matter of someone wanting to do it, and it ain’t him.

Any takers?

PS Buck's Fizz will never die in this household (GF's Monkees)

Now doing business as the Jeevas, and highly recommended.

chakk

out of the flesh 12"

- sounding fucking massive today. what a great 12". that off tune distorted sax, the bass. the cut up remixes.

Jesus Jones.

― kate, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:05 (5 years ago)

This makes me feel old. It's been at least 15 years since I've seen a long sleeved t-shirt with "JESUS JONES" printed on the sleeve.

>Kula Shaker

Now doing business as the Jeevas, and highly recommended.

The Jeevas

>Kula Shaker

for good reason

I know tons of losers who still listen to Cake

Naked Eyes

CHAKK : Ticking Time Bomb 12"

How great is this !

Has been 20 years since i heard this, and its sounding as relevant today as it did then. (even in crappy 128kbps)

Not many bands finish their time with their best record, but I'd say Chakk were pretty damn close.

2 brilliant independant 12" > 1 Crappy Major Album + associated singles > One final perfect independant 12"

not that strange career path for many bands in the 80s i'd say.

Other than the obvious sonic links to !!!, did the band get any modern day love with the explosion of post-punk-funk copyists a few years ago ?

i'd really like to know more about the earlier industrial-goes-house tracks (or the vice-versa scenario), early minimal synth wave, and the like. are there any good resources on this?

not that history has erased this stuff, it's being championed by the likes of optimo/betty botox, soft rocks, and a variety of other discerning djs. i just don't know where to start digging, i guess, beyond the obvious cabaret voltaire/throbbing gristle/coil stuff (which of course is incredible)

Scott 4
Acacia
Flynn & Flora
Milltown Brothers
The Untouchables
Terminal Cheesecake
The Hollowmen
Hypnotone
Dream Warriors
Boogiemonsters

The Hollowmen

!!

my site for some reason used to get hammered by googlers looking for hollowmen stuff.

dreadful band.

It's A Beautiful Day
Sweetwater
Free
China White
DC3 Saccharine Trust and a whole bunch of other SST bands
Johnny Hates Jazz
Urban Dance Squad
Peter Murphy
I'm of two minds on M/A/R/R/S

Sam Black Church

I'm of two minds on M/A/R/R/S

one mind for each track i take it

Androids of Mu

Buck's Fizz will never die in this household

As a former Eurovision winner, they are guaranteed eternal life in certain circles. Just do a Google search for "Eurovision" and you will know what I mean.

Geir utterly otm about the ESC. Hell, any finalist counts as perpetually unerased because of those circles.

As opposed to, say, Kinky Machine.

If Bucks Fizz hadn't entered Eurovision, they'd be as erased as Five Star.

If it wasn't for Eurovision, Buck's Fizz wouldn't even had been formed. :)

Another call here:
Not that they are completely forgotten, but compared to the critical hype surrounding them at the time, Paisley Underground bands such as Dream Syndicate, Red Guitars, Green On Red and The Long Ryders are referenced surprisingly rarely these days. I mean, those were pretty much the favourite bands of mid 80s hipsters. Along with R.E.M. - the only of those bands that have really made it big and assured themselves a huge place in history.

It's A Beautiful Day

These guys are in moderately heavy rotation on Technicolor Web of Sound.

If I chose to, I could probably hear "White Bird" once a week on "Beeker Street".

What's "Beeker Street"? Satellite radio show?

I misspelled it

True West
The Silos
The Rave-Ups

actually, this thread is somewhat interchangeable with Is there a name for that genre of turn-of-the-90s pop-rock with the positive vibes, huge guitar leads, and gated drums?

well I for one wish Guru Josh had been forgotten.. how on earth can Infinity have so much Radio airtime?

New Chunklet Is Out!

Silos keep on keepin' on: did a record a year or so back and Walter has a record out on Bloodshot--a collaboration with the writer Jonathan Lethem.

Lots of pre-Nirvana "alternative" (or, should I say "modern rock." "progressive?") bands who made it onto daytime MTV, but failed to establish an indie niche to fall back on when their 15 minutes faded. There are many such bands, but I'll promote King Swamp as the official representative for the gang.

My reason for the pre-Nirvana clarification is that, once the 90s alternative feeding frenzy began, even the most forgettable of the also-rans (Dig, say) were more conspicuous in their one-hit-wonderness.

Also: The hit bands at the tail end of the hair metal era were not invited for nostalgic VH1-style reappraisal. I think the last band on that bus may have been White Lion, with Bulletboys and Enuff z'Nuff clinging desperately to the rear bumper, leaving the likes of Slaughter, Firehouse, Tuff & Danger Danger to slip comfortably into the void. Nelson is the one exception to this that I can think of, but thats just b/c they were Nelson.

history has erased NEKTAR and JADE WARRIOR

Steven Jesse Bernstein. (i mean, he was a performer poet, not a musician, but jesus, one of those crazy geniuses whose shit is funny and rather smart) (also complete more burroughs than the dumbass spoken word of today)

anyone else love this guy? i had forgotten about him until this thread made me search my head for a while.

The Ecstasy of St. Theresa

Sam Black Chruch! Did the really ever break out of the Southern-New-Hampshire-kids-in-Boston scene? I remember seeing them play the Funworld arcade on Route 111a in Nashua, since we didn't even have any clubs to play in.

i remember sam black church.

The Railway Children

Poison. Except they will always be remembered as an example of hair metal at its most horrible.

I really hate to tell you this Geir, but I've been DJing Poison every month at the local rock night and, judging by the response, they are either fondly remembered or newly (re)discovered!

A+

Sigue Sigue Sputnik (still active, says Wikipedia)
Ride
99% of all indie bands actually

Why would we expect a pop group who had a minor hit 25 years ago or no hits at all to be remembered today?

The Ecstasy of St. Theresa

;_;

^ net version of Bernini

Better Than Ezra

rong, burt. everyone remembers Better than Ezra.

"And it's good, I'm living with you aaaa--hooooww"

Ride, huh? OK.

Tragic Mulatto *sob*

The Ecstasy of St. Theresa

Sadly, this seems to be the case. Still play 'm regularly though.

Which also goes for Bowery Electric.

Ride, huh? OK.

At least to an extent where, for most Oasis fans, Andy Bell is first and foremost famous as Oasis' bass player.

Nig Heist

Ecstasy of St. Theresa are a great band.

History has forgotten Plagan Grind.

xp
Nig Heist got a deluxe CD reissue a while back.

it sold three copies

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=260258049140

NIG HEIST, the legendary, confrontationally perverse punk trolls led by Black Flag roadie and associate Mugger, were liked by no one in their time. Childish songs about sexual depravity of all stripes and characterized in live performance by a baiting self-righteous un-self-righteousness earned them the animosity of "real" punks everywhere they played while arguably out-punking them all. Has anyone ever not cared as hard as Nig Heist did not care? History has yet to reveal the answer. This is their original 1984 Thermidor LP featuring Greg Ginn (who has co-writing credits) and charming artwork depicting Howdy Doody feeding a little girl what must be a carrot.

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/28/4d/3ecc024128a0403f23c88010.L.jpg

I almost went to see Kings X last month!

the absence of indexes on the bonus live disc on that Nig-Heist reissue is maddening

history seems to have remembered a fair few of the names mentioned earlier in this thread

Not Craig McLachlan and Check 1-2 though.

Bombalurina

(thank fuck.)

never forget

We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use It / Fuzzbox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QWL0AznZ_4

Adam F
Agent Provocateur
Apollo 440
Armand Van Helden
Arkarna
Asian Dub Foundation
A Skillz
Audio Bullys
Basement Jaxx
Bentley Rhythm Ace
Big Bang
Boom Boom Satellites
BT
Cassius
Chase & Status
Adam F
Agent Provocateur
Apollo 440
Armand Van Helden
Arkarna
Asian Dub Foundation
A Skillz
Audio Bullys
Basement Jaxx
Bentley Rhythm Ace
Big Bang
Boom Boom Satellites
BT
Cassius
Chase & Status
The Chemical Brothers
Cirrus
The Crystal Method
Cut La Roc
David Holmes
Death in Vegas
Dub Pistols
Example
Fantastic Plastic Machine
Fatboy Slim
FC Kahuna
Freddy Fresh
Freestylers
Fluke
Future Sound of London
Adam F
Agent Provocateur
Apollo 440
Armand Van Helden
Arkarna
Asian Dub Foundation
A Skillz
Audio Bullys
Basement Jaxx
Bentley Rhythm Ace
Big Bang
Boom Boom Satellites
BT
Cassius
Chase & Status
The Chemical Brothers
Cirrus
The Crystal Method
Cut La Roc
David Holmes
Death in Vegas
Dub Pistols
Example
Fantastic Plastic Machine
Fatboy Slim
FC Kahuna
Freddy Fresh
Freestylers
Fluke
Future Sound of London
Garasi
Groove Armada
GRiZ
Hardknox
Hervé
Jon Carter
Josh Wink
Junkie XL
L&B
Lionrock
Lo Fidelity Allstars
Loop Da Loop
Lunatic Calm
Meat Beat Manifesto
Midfield General
Orbital
Overseer
The Prodigy
Propellerheads
RJD2
Shinichi Osawa
Timo Maas
TZANT
Überzone
Ugress
UNKLE
Way Out West
The Wiseguys
Xploding Plastix

Saw a guy at a record store the other day with an OG Meat Beat Manifesto t-shirt, so I guess he still remembers.

Voice of the Beehive

Fuzzbox definitely not forgotten, still know a bunch of bands who are into them.

fatboy slim just did an opera with david byrne so don't think that counts at all

Terry Hall's post Specials projects (Fun Boy Three, The Colourfield, Terry, Blair and Anouchka, Vegas)

Came in to say "Inspiral Carpets," found it had already been done, twice on the same day!

The real question is, who had been erased in 2003 but has come back? I feel like I totally hear people mention Cake now.

xp Hall also co-wrote some of the Lightning Seeds stuff, I guess the Lightning Seeds probably count as erased by history at this point (aside from Three Lions, maybe?)

The real question is, who had been erased in 2003 but has come back? I feel like I totally hear people mention Cake now.

Tuxedomoon mentioned in the first post, I think they have a stable position in the post-punk canon these days? (they were probably already at least on their way back by 2003, though)

Matthew Sweet

Age of Chance

I don't know enough about Fuzzbox to know if they're forgotten.

Fuzzbubble on the other hand, is definitely forgotten.

Transvision Vamp are mentioned above, they seem one of the biggest contrast between what a big deal they were at the time and how little currency they have now (unless there's an underground Transvision Vamp revival that I'm unaware of? there's some TV stuff on tumblr, but not a huge amount)

Gene Loves Jezebel

i was just thinking of gene loves jezebel the other day! WHEAT FARMER!!! HAVE YOU SEEN MY COW!!!

I feel like quite a lot of acts mentioned here are mid to late 80s pop-rock bands that don't quite fit into the indie canon, and kind of ended up on the wrong side of history when indie became synonymous with (non-metal, non-punk) rock music in the 90s?

how about entire LABELS whose complete discography has been erased from history. my first vote goes to:

https://www.discogs.com/label/5224-Jellybean-Recordings

Cassius have a new one just out. As do Death in Vegas.

maybe dance music is cheating though. so much of it goes out of fashion in 6 months or less.

True, maybe. But I don't think Cassius and DiV are typical? Longhaulers.

Just replace Cassius with Alex Gopher.

Transvision Vamp are mentioned above, they seem one of the biggest contrast between what a big deal they were at the time and how little currency they have now (unless there's an underground Transvision Vamp revival that I'm unaware of? there's some TV stuff on tumblr, but not a huge amount)

― soref, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:11 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Still makes me chuckle to think the bassist from Bush was the bassist in Transvision Vamp.

He was also in the Partisans!

And Sham 69 apparently.

Still makes me chuckle to think the bassist from Bush was the bassist in Transvision Vamp.

wow, I had no idea! imo Transvision Vamp were great and Bush were terrible, going from one to the other is nearly at "Johnny McElhone being in Altered Images then Texas" levels of depreciation (but without even a middling Hipsway transitional stage)

The Rhythm Corps

They had a hit in the late 80s that I still love, Common Ground. Could be the finest use of birds in the history of music video.

Asian Dub Foundation were meant to be the most important band of all time for a while

lots of acts who the late 90s uk music press declared the most important band of all time would probably count here

they're already mentioned above, but Campag Velocet

hey, a gig is a gig if you play bass. god bless that faceless bush guy.

the guy from Campag Velocet now makes belts for a living:

http://www.vossbelts.com/about

I love Campag Velocet

Finley Quaye
David Gray
Sugar Ray
uh, Juicy J?

He was also in the Partisans!

― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:38 (twenty-two minutes ago) Permalink

And Sham 69 apparently.

― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:42 (eighteen minutes ago) Permalink

Yes, The Partisans too. Sham 69 was a different Dave Parsons.

the guy from Campag Velocet now makes belts for a living:

http://www.vossbelts.com/about

I love Campag Velocet

― soref, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:57 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm thinking of the right guy here, right? The guy with the ridic bowl cut in the late '90s who used to be in the NME all the time?

Sadly Sugar seem to have been forgotten. Copper Blue was 1992 NME album of the year but it never gets mentioned much now. Until the reissues came out I never saw anyone talking about them in the preceding 15 years

RUSTED ROOT

Turkey bones & the wild dogs.
Playn Jayn
the Moodists
gas rattle
bugblot
Little Red Schoolhouse
well, hope not but think they may be unheard.

Stephen Duffy/The Lilac Time, maybe?

Junkie XL

not forgotten by people who enjoyed the insanely over the top soundtrack for the recent mad max film.

A Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, and a thousand other blip-in-the-charts no-name early-to-mid-00s pop-punk bands that tried to be the next Blink 182.

The Fibonaccis. My beloved, beloved Fibonaccis.

I would fly a long way to see a fibs reunion.

Who are Relient K and why does MTV seem to be pimping them so much?

THE TIGER LILLIES

Are the Fratellis still going?

Recently learned about a 90s duo called Unmen, one of several projects Nick Cash has done over the decades -- but while I knew about pragVEC, the Lines and Fad Gadget (he played with Tovey for some years in the 80s), while Cash has been part of the Members reunions since about ten years back, I'd just never heard about Unmen at all, and the only reason I learned about them was that they have a track on an issue of the Volume CD/magazine series from the 90s I just picked up for cheap. Turns out they have a couple of interesting sounding albums, including one on Some Bizzare, so I've ordered them, but talk about an act that totally disappeared down the memory hole:

https://www.discogs.com/artist/92584-Unmen

(Cash's partner in the band, Giles Perring, has been part of a London group called Echo City that is apparently still going as of a couple of years ago, though its own Discogs page is strictly late 80s/90s:

https://www.discogs.com/artist/1490863-Echo-City

And then there's the Perring/Cash collaborative albums in turn:

https://www.discogs.com/artist/656172-Giles-Perring

In sum, who knew?)

Are the Fratellis still going?

― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:26 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A quick Google shows that, incredibly, they are - although they apparently broke up for two or three years.

Millennia would have been preferable to years.

Cake are playing the Hardly STrictly Bluegrass festival in SF and it seems to be a big deal to people which is fucking weird to me. But it was weird to me that they were ever famous in the first place; the one and only time I saw them was in 1991 at bottom of the hill in SF

xpost:

It looks like quite a lot of really shitty "class of 2007/2008" landfill acts are still going... The Pigeon Detectives, The Wombats, The Hoosiers, Scouting For Girls, The Kooks... all still making music. For who, though!?

Black Kids

Kate Nash

Pogs

Sam Worthington

Moloko

ICQ

Moist

Friendster

Transvision Vamp are mentioned above, they seem one of the biggest contrast between what a big deal they were at the time and how little currency they have now

This is fascinating, I had no idea they were ever a big deal!

Cake are still weirdly popular, I think they were just a really important band to a lot of people back in middle school. They spoke to a lot of uncool/detached kids.

Wendy james certainly seemed to be getting a lot of hype when Transvision Vamp first appeared. Seemed to be greeted as the next big thing by at least one of the main UK weeklies, possibly both

Brian Bosworth as an action movie star

the XFL

the streets

Apollo 440

Tonic

Alex Reece.

i have listened to both @440 and alex reece in the last week.
but that says more about me, than about them being forgotten.
(and i think i may even have a Tonic album hidden deep in the archive .. )

Cake features heavily here: that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

getting more recent : o. children.

which is a massive shame as i had such high hopes, but the legal chaos that kicked in clearly killed the bands groove.

Shabba Ranks
Eternal
Michelle Gayle
Chaka Demus & Pliers
Stiltskin
Da Brat
K-Klass
Urban Cookie Collective
Therapy?
Lisa Loeb
Onyx
Helmet

Da Brat

damn, I haven't thought of Funkdafied in a hot minute

I have friends who still very much like Cake. I guess you can see why they're still popular, they have a thing

DA BRAT MARRIED THAT WEIRD GUY THAT WAS MARRIED TO LIZA AND THEN IS DEAD NOW

I saw Cake at a festival once. They played for like 2 hours and it was an unstoppable train. They gave a really good show, actually.

Shabba is just now claiming history with reggaeton's increased visibility and ASAP shoutouts.

SHABBA

Collective Soul

Urban Dance Squad

Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine

Snow

Vivabeat

I feel like the better band to use instead of Cake would be Soul Coughing

Brand New Heavies

Chaka Demus & Pliers

This is wrong, I think, if only for 'Murder She Wrote'.

There's been a few Helmet sets shared on Dime over the last few days so somebody must remember them.

If you're listing one hit wonders then you're doing it wrong (and several of these are only one Judd Apatow scene away from immortality in any case). But Moloko is ridiculous given how regularly Sing It Back and The Time Is Now seem to pop up in all sorts of extremely mainstream contexts.

Like I think to qualify you need to be an artist with a reasonable level of profile and/or credibility in a particular genre but who has been retrospectively airbrushed out of the conversation. The early 90s is chock full of these artists but Snow sure as hell wasn't one of them.

'Murder She Wrote' and 'Tease Me' still get played out all the time.

Therapy? is one that I think about a lot. It's not that they've been forgotten entirely, and in fact I think they've had a recent revival but for a band who were at one point a MASSIVE deal, they sure got swept under the rug. That goes for British heavy rock music in general, I guess - Three Colours Red sold loads of records but the only song I remember is an embarrassing b-side called www.sad

Wildhearts, Terrorvision, Skin, Skunk Anansie, Little Angels, Headswim can be added to that list: all Kerrang! staples from the early 90s, now forgotten

Like I think to qualify you need to be an artist with a reasonable level of profile and/or credibility in a particular genre but who has been retrospectively airbrushed out of the conversation. The early 90s is chock full of these artists but Snow sure as hell wasn't one of them.

In that case, I think a better thread for discussion would be the one that I started a few years ago:

Artists/bands that were once quite popular, yet nowadays are mostly ignored in canonical history books

If you look through the NME albums-of-the-year list, which I think is a reasonable enough indication of stuff they thought was going to stand the test of time, the early 90s gives you albums by the 3rd Bass, Electribe 101, The Fatima Mansions, The Goats, Madder Rose and Gallon Drunk, none of whom afaik are listened to by anyone who wasn't there at the time or even referred to in 'lol early 90s' type articles.

I found that Tricks of teh Shade was something being played by people I hadn't expected to several years after the fact. I think I discovered them by chance thanks to the cd truning up cheap in a Borders cd section. & only recognised taht somebody was playing them a while after that.
But could be I'd remembered the name from reviews/coverage from the time.

Would love to get hold of live sets by both them and New Kingdom both of whom played live with bands.

I have a friend who I think is still involved with Gallon Drunk and James Johnston has wound up playing with the Bad Seeds over the last few years. But then again that isn't in GD capacity..

Should say though that Tricks of the Shade is the only Goats lp with the full magic as far as I can see. I think a central member left before the next lp.
So if people are coming across anything later they may not get what made them so special.

But do love Tricks

More nineties stuff mostly remembered from Now compilations and free magazine CDs I have cherished:

Shakespeare's Sister (apart from 'Stay' of course)
Eurythmics - Yes yes, Sweet Dreams, There Must Be An Angel - but for such a huge band I haven't noticed an awful lot of acts beyond, say, Texas repping for them
Senser
Tamsin Archer
Gin Blossoms
K7
Blaggers ITA
The For Carnation
Ether
The Wiseguys
Les Rythmes Digitales
Days of The New
Ultrasound
Marion

Eurythmics first lp In The Garden is pretty essential if you're not already aware.
Nice mix of Brit folky stuff , psych and New Wave. Band on it is half Blondie and half Can and it's produced by Conny Plank.

Finally got a great remaster a few years ago and got rid of the tinniness that was on the original cd.

xp I don't think The For Carnation belong in that list, they're more in the obscure post-rock bracket rather than actually forgotten/passed over. Narcissism of small differences I know.

K7

"Come Baby Come" still gets played in various places, the last time I heard it was just a couple of weeks ago in the Suicide Squad movie. So clearly people still remember that tune, and it's not like anyone knew anything else by them even in the '90s.

The Goats is a good one. All I can remember about them is a few bars of 'Rumblefish' and one of Ant & Dec on Saturday morning TV saying they were a big fan.

The Eurythmics is the single worst answer in this thread.

Les Rythmes Digitales is one of the most successful producers of the last 20 years, not sure how that makes him "erased from history."

Like the Eurythmics were literally in the History of British Pop segment of the London 2012 Olympics. That's about as far from the premise of this thread as you can get.

I guess Dog Latin meant that his solo music rarely gets played anymore, and most people probably don't even know it's the same guy who produced those Madonna hits?

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Eurythmics first lp In The Garden is pretty essential if you're not already aware.
Nice mix of Brit folky stuff , psych and New Wave. Band on it is half Blondie and half Can and it's produced by Conny Plank.

:-O that's pretty amazing, I had no idea. It's like the Police, the Pretenders, UB40 etc - huge, huge late 70s/ eighties bands who went down in history as AOR staples but turned out to be a lot spikier and more interesting than that in the early days.

xp I mean, he was never really that big as a solo artist, there was a minor amount of buzz around "Jacques Your Body" when it was used on that car advert, but I'd say that's if anything more well-remembered than similarly minor hits of the same era.

I guess Dog Latin meant that his solo music rarely gets played anymore, and most people probably don't even know it's the same guy who produced those Madonna hits?

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― Tuomas, Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:07 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Colour me stoopid, I was literally looking at a list of old CDs I used to have and forgot who LRD even was.

My answer for this would be some of the rubbish British faux disco hits of the late 70s and early 80s - I haven't heard them played or referred to anywhere at all since they were on Top of the Pops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6loKnLryIsw

if a guy out of The Eccentronic Research Council hadn't mentioned the band Mum And Dad in an interview recently, I think they'd be forgotten by literally everyone on Earth, including everyone in the band itself

If no one's heard of them to begin with, I don't think they can be "erased" from history...

When you get namechecked by The Eccentronic Research Council you know you've made it.

if a guy out of The Eccentronic Research Council hadn't mentioned the band Mum And Dad in an interview recently, I think they'd be forgotten by literally everyone on Earth, including everyone in the band itself

― imago, Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:19 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some of us have been keeping the Mum And Dad flame burning. shout out to the other 19 ppl who have apparently listened to them on spotify in the last month

oh i quite like them, having investigated as the result of that shout-out

not your shout-out, eccentronic guy's shout-out

yours is also appreciated

unjustly forgotten:

St. Christopher
Shelleyan Orphan
The Motorcycle Boy
The Sugargliders

I was blown away to discover that The Wombats have quietly been doing really well in America recently and still managing to get albums into the UK top 5

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/4a6592_9e168409fb0a49549f2e91868f0c177c.jpg

3rd Bass, Electribe 101, The Fatima Mansions, The Goats, Madder Rose and Gallon Drunk, none of whom afaik are listened to by anyone who wasn't there at the time or even referred to in 'lol early 90s' type articles.

― Matt DC, Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:23 AM (three hours ago)

Latter two still mentioned/liked a lot. Possibly both reformed as well?? The rest = yeah, forgotten.

Will also say it probably doesn't count as "being erased from history" if you were never part of history in the first place. Otherwise I could just list all my bands.

The Fatima Mansions seem like a good one. Microdisney as well, even though Microdisney feel more in tune with styles that people care about in 2016.I don't know if they are both better remembered in Ireland maybe?

Huge hits that you never hear anymore:
Robert Plant - "Tall Cool One"
EMF - "Unbelievable"

I feel sure I've heard Unbelievable recently.

I'm told that Martha and the Muffins - "Echo Beach" gets a lot of play in the UK but I've literally never heard it on Canadian radio, despite it going gold and winning a Juno.

(in recent times)

I mentioned "Echo Beach" on the "Obscure songs heard at CVS" thread. I've heard it twice recently.

In the UK you hear Echo Beach all over the place but never any other Martha & The Muffins songs, ever.

I should get points for this: A tune I really love and have listened to often/recently combines two artists on this thread. Madder Rose "Overflow (FC Kahuna Headstart Me Up Mix)"

Can movies be discussed in this thread? I was just reflecting on the fact that "American Pie" was a gigantic smash hit, people quoted from it all the time, it was seen as the "Animal House" of its moment, and now? Kind of gone, right?

other than the 300 straight to DVD sequels under the name American Pie? hell local art movie house just showed it as a 'cult classic'. it's ubiquitous, people still say "oh, Stiffler's mom", MILF, an existing term, became part of mainstream lexicon and is still there. history enhanced, not erased it!

OK re MILF very good point. "Stiffler's mom" is not something I've heard referred to in a decade but OK point taken.

local art movie house just showed it as a 'cult classic'

you need a local rich person to make them a big donation so they don't have to do this shit tho

I live in Canada and I've definitely heard "Echo Beach" on the radio. Don't think I've heard anything else by them.

American Pie or its sequels seem to be on tv quite a bit on various channels. So yeah seems to be more staple than forgotten.

I think that in that in the UK Martha + the Muffins are regarded as a memorable one-hit wonder with a funny name, which afaict is how they have always been regarded here since 1979, I don't think there has been any change in their profile as such

What about Can't Hardly Wait? I feel like that was big back in the day. Or maybe I just knew a lot of people with the soundtrack.

I live in Canada and I've definitely heard "Echo Beach" on the radio. Don't think I've heard anything else by them.

What about Ashley MacIsaac and the Rankin Family? Both were multiplatinum in the 90s.

Apparently they were M+M before Marshall Mathers.

Which should make them memorable really.

I thought I'd come across some member being known as part of another band but can't see anything other than Daniel Lanois's sister playing bass for a few years.

Martha Ladly (one of two Marthas in Martha and the Muffins) joined the Associates:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Ladly

Coal Chamber looked as though they were going to be as big as Korn for a short while, then Limp Bizkit came along

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen - has an odd disconnected vibe to it, and is a bit eno-ish in places. one of the earlier daniel lanois productions fwiw (his sister was in the band at that point)

If you look through the NME albums-of-the-year list, which I think is a reasonable enough indication of stuff they thought was going to stand the test of time, the early 90s gives you albums by the 3rd Bass, Electribe 101, The Fatima Mansions, The Goats, Madder Rose and Gallon Drunk, none of whom afaik are listened to by anyone who wasn't there at the time or even referred to in 'lol early 90s' type articles.

― Matt DC, Thursday, September 1, 2016 5:23 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was HUGE among, well, me and one other guy in 8th grade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNfU_RMbUCA

The Viva Dead Ponies album became one of those "holy grail" used CDs for me. I used to check for it in every store I went into. By the time I finally tracked down a copy though, I didn't like it at all. I wonder if I'd enjoy it now?

Are High llamas any better remembered?
Sean O'Hagan the main guy was at least at one point the other major guy in Microdisney.

I see they have a new lp out this year that I don't remember hearing about. So must still have some recognition.

I first came across O'Hagan in Stereolab though. He toured Ireland with them in '92

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen

This is an understatement.

In my experience Sean O'Hagan is remembered, but his actual bands much less so.

Gallon Drunk are still going strong. Both live where they are very intense and on album. Their 2014 release "The Soul of the Hour" was great. Dark, hypnotic, aninmalistic grooves. Like "Exile on Main Street" but better.

Gallon Drunk at Phoenix 97 is still the best gig I've ever been to, don't seem to actually own any of their music though, used to have one CD but lost it somewhere.

Smithereens I think?

Fatima Mansions catalog is all really great, go back and revisit!

Suddenly, Tammy!

Does anyone remember Calla? They were a revelation at the time, haven't heard anything from them for a while.

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen

This is an understatement.

Good lord, yes. One of my all-time fave art rock records. I'm sure they're doing quite well with Echo Beach residuals but this is the work that should've defined Martha/Muffins/M+M.

Does anyone remember Calla? They were a revelation at the time, haven't heard anything from them for a while.

i absoutely love the 'televise' album ..
they really were on the verge of crossing over for a short time, but things fell apart both re band and record label.
seem to recall they tried to get things going again a few years ago (myspace era !), but their time was over.
such a shame.

Was watching Buffy and there was a Lotion poster on the dorm wall.