Steven Wells (RIP June 2009)

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i pretty much detest everything he stands for. i know his political views are right-on, but his writing is pure essence of bigotry. he still thinks the clash are the best group in the world! he still manages to get gigs writing for NEW music papers!

and shit, he gets me riled so he'll get even more gigs. someone stick up for the artless fuckard, please. or tell us why you hate him so...

nebbesh (nebbesh), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

He completely slagged off my band's single in the NME in a way which made it perfectly obvious that he missed the point - but also, by extrapolation made it clear what the point *was* so that if I had read the review, I would have known that I would have liked the single.

It said something about "This is music for long-haired vegan gurlie-boys who read French poetry and think football is vile" which was pretty much spot on.

That said, I think he's a one trick pony whose one trick stopped being funny a long time ago. Sigh.

kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i dont hate him, hes just dull. its rather like burchill, where there is lots of controversy, but you have to look very hard to actually see anything controversial (ok, so burchill has more writing talent than wells but...). i think its something to do with the fact that he is an innate conservative struggling against that. but what should be a fascinating internal battle externalised just comes out as public schoolboy soapbox.

its a shame really, but a world in which there are only loud shouty exciting things in capitol letters and weedy mumsy quiet middle class things, is a fairly dull world, and to write about things that way for 20+ years seems such a waste

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU ARE a RACIST who DOESN'T appreciate GOOD POP music you INDIE NAM namby pamby SOFT useless PONCE.


Steven Wells is the Anti-Christ of music writing, a man pushing his own ill-conceived, badly informed political agenda onto his own third-rate interviews, which reveal little about the musician in question.

The nadir would obviously be the Belle and Sebastian interview, where Stuart Murdoch plays him like Ace/Jack suited, and Wells' response basically amounts to "Haven't you even read "No Logo"".

Steven Wells entire existence basically resembles that "Yoof TV" show in the Young Ones. Shame he didn't realise it was a piss take.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

It's comical how one-dimensional his writing is; "unleash the DOGS and the BEES and the DOGS WITH BEES IN THEIR MOUTHS THAT STING WHEN THEY BITE YER and skullfuck and fucktard rape and noise and capitalist scumbag and DOGS and TEETH and PUNK and RIOT and yoo r all gurlz and I h8 yoo!" This man is employed.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I like him

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

But can you name his sister?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

bores me rigid

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the title of this thread, and it seemed foreboding, like he'd been in an accident or something.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

one of the best music writers ever.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

evil

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

incarnate

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

''The nadir would obviously be the Belle and Sebastian interview, where Stuart Murdoch plays him like Ace/Jack suited, and Wells' response basically amounts to "Haven't you even read "No Logo"".''

did you actually read that interview dom?

''It said something about "This is music for long-haired vegan gurlie-boys who read French poetry and think football is vile" which was pretty much spot on.''

he hates football kate but i never read that review.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha - I remember that Lollies review.

I actually like his writing style, I just wish he'd stop writing about music. His Guardian cricket things are great.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

dave- is he worse than hitler?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually - Stuart Murdoch didn't 'play' him at anything - he came across as genuinely a bit clueless in that piece (yes obv. it was Wells writing it but...)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone remember his ranting TV appearances on Def 2 in the 80s? Shouting about how New Order were fascists with fists clenched, emoting mock rage like a pantomime actor in his beige cullottes. it makes me giggle like a schoolgirl just to remember it.

Thinking about it I suppose I do hate him, though in a weary Noel Gallagher "oh jesus not him again, not more of the same" type way.

pulpo, Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

dave- is he worse than hitler?

Yes

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

But I've never read anything buy Hitler so I could be wrong

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

stuart murdoch is a twat. Then wrote a letter abt that interview and he came across as even more of a twat.

''Yes''

dave- how old are you?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i was joking julio... and old enough to have grown up with wells' bilge pretty much all my music-press reading life, for shame

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I assume he's the same as ever. I think it's kind of awesome and frightening that when I started reading the NME he was this lone voice of rude sweariness and now the entire paper reads like that except with 1/10 the style. He's the best music writer apart from the good ones - when I was 15 I adored him which is the point, isn't it.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm sure swellz-ah gets a prickly HARD-ON!?! seeing kidz (dribble) screwin' the DIE-DACTIC rule of oldies (booo!) by finger-fuckin' their mobs and startin a nework ov nu-jailb8 ARMAGEDDIDONNNN!

so what ringtone d'you reckon he has? i wouldn't be surprised if ringtones are the only things he listens to.

nebbesh (nebbesh), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

''i was joking julio''

I know dave. i was too.

I haven't read him in many years. but when I did start it was one hell of a contrast having all those writers looking at scenes etc and then wells doing his thing. it was one hell of a contrast and i enjoyed that.

''so what ringtone d'you reckon he has?''

an atari teenage riot one of course!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I've just never had any time for his writing style, the vast majority of the music he likes or his under-developed philosopizing... drives me nuts... but the fact he can polarize opinion like this does say something for him i suppose... still, i find him predictable and more like a parody of himself now... it's all a bit undugnified to be writing like a sixth-former when you're about 65 isn't it...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

i think that's why his writing seems so desperate, it would mean more coming from a real teenager. but then a real teenager wouldn't stick to such an outdated value system. punk roolz, fringes suck! how quaint, he's as english as the cricket he writes about (altho' that does sound guiltily interesting).

nebbesh (nebbesh), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

He & David Quantick go together in my mind: attempts at oh-so-clever humour rather than ever expressing any real passion or ethusiasm for music at all

bham, Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

cricket does rock... well, not "rock" per se, but it's a great way to sit in the sun (and often rain, too) drinking on a summer saturday afternoon

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

the same Steven Wells? attacks the NME [without directly naming them] on Playlouder.
http://www.playlouder.com/feature/1374swells/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

just looked over my last posts... obligatory literal error and now my favourite word...

ladies and gentlemen, i give you: undugnified

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a story about Mr Wells.

Many years ago the band I was in did a few dates supporting Atilla The Stockbroker and The Newtown Neurotics. One of these gigs was at a notorious nazi skinhead haunt in N London called Skunks.

We were on first, jumping up and down making a horrible racket and shouting all sorts of crap about systems and nuclear war and anarchy as was our wont.

The skinheads seemed unimpressed.

Then the Neurotics went on and played their set complete with their rather left-wing take on things.

The skinheads seemed deeply unimpressed.

Finally Atilla took the stage.

A couple of numbers into the set (I was on stage with him at the time providing backing vocals for his version "Garagelend"), suddenly all hell broke loose. There were fists and glasses and bottles and pool cues and furniture flying through the air.

All the guys in the bands etc. who were about made a dash for it and most of us managed to get into the cellar away from the mellee. In the process I grabbed one guy who was standing by the side of the stage and pulled him to safety with us. I didn't know who he was but thought he must be part of our entourage as he I'd seen him talking to Atilla and the Neurotics earlier.

It turned out that this individual was Mr Wells who was then a writer for the NME, and whilst we were all cowering in the cellar I laughingly suggested to him that having saved him from getting a severe kicking must at least be worth a write-up for our band, even if he said we were shit (which of course we were).

He enthusiastically agreed and promised to do so - and indeed, true to his word, in the next edition of NME there was a review of our set.

It said ".... and Sub-Active from Henley"

I wish I'd left the miserable bastard to get his head kicked in now.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

''He & David Quantick go together in my mind: attempts at oh-so-clever humour rather than ever expressing any real passion or ethusiasm for music at all''

he has plenty of passion and enthusiasm but he has a lot of hate as well.

what's all this abt 'isn't he old', shouldn't he grow up. He is a great writer precisely bcz he can keep writing like that. his writing has passion, energy and he's v funny.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

see I said 'passion' twice there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i find christgau similarly worrying sometimes although infinitely less so, so yeah there is deffo an age factor

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

He comes across in the piece Martian linked to like Freaky Trigger with more swear words.

alext (alext), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i've had him, he's crap

gE0rdIEr0b0t (s.r.w.), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Steven Wells: is not a good music writer. All he does is right tired agitprop disguised as record reviews. Plus all that Daphne & Celeste stuff he was coming out with smacked of pervertalism, a fear confirmed by the one photo I saw of him with them.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

undugnified knocked into cocked hat by pervertalism btw...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

pervertalistic wld be even better tho'

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

any fool can have passion and energy. i want to hear something more than "this fucking ROCKS and if you cant see it youre DEAD POP MEAT!" i used to find him quite funny, because he was a breath of fresh air compared to the real NME-by-numbers journos sticking rigidly to the standard NME opinions. however, this one-trick pony's time is up. he's ok to do the letters page of a mag every month or two, but other than that, forget it.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

He's one of those things that's just there and a lot of 13-15 year old boys will like. "Oh he's past it" is missing the point, i.e. if you are old enough to think Swells is past it then STOP BUYING THE FUXORING NME! He's like the Warhammer 40,000 of rock criticism.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

come on...we NEED writers that hate every single note made by every dance music person evah! its a requirement ;-)

he is a one-trick pony. so what? most writers don't even have that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

ok if we're judging him as something for 13-15 year olds to enjoy, then maybe he succeeds, but judged as an "interesting rock journalist" he fails. (and i think he wants to be seen as the latter rather than the former.)

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

and what makes you think this?

he is a good journo anyway. Most of the time that I've read articles on the worst indie attrocities they've been written by him.

he is kind of like bart simpson of rock-crit. really. the article linked to above was a wonderful read.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

it was horrid, unsophisticated, arrogant, misanthropic polemic

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hey, you should read jane austen.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

as in he makes a living as a rock journalist (i'm guessing he aims to be interesting), for mags which like to think they're for people over 14 (although this often isn't be the case). i just think that his "energy and passion as two fingers to the chin-stroking music writer" schtick has become a bit of a get-out clause: you need to be able to go into some detail about what makes the music crap/good to be a good music writer.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

well, it's just bullshit isn't it, saying coz someone doesn't like exactly the same music as you that you'd like to see them die painfully...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

but he does say why music is good/bad (he doen't get musicological abt it but that kind of thing would never get published in the NME or any music mag). but he does jokes and insults.

(when ppl say you should die painfully if you don't like the same music as I do that is funny to me)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i think he should die painfully coz i don't like the way her writes and that you should too julio coz you like him

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahahahaha!!!!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

obviously i take that back immediately coz i don't at all... just wanted to prove it's not a nice thing to say and pretty insensitive when people are dying painfully all round the world, perticularly when a writer seems to think he is, and makes a shitload of noise about being, politically sound

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

it didn't work then!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"but he does say why music is good/bad (he doen't get musicological abt it but that kind of thing would never get published in the NME or any music mag). but he does jokes and insults."

he doesn't have to get "musicological" about it, but something more than "this fucking rocks!" would be welcome. and even the bland NME writers can go into *some* detail about why music turns them on/off. like i said, i think this "i don't get fucking musicological!" thing has become a bit of a get-out clause.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

''obviously i take that back immediately coz i don't at all...''

I know. nor does steven. bcz its a joke.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave you FORGOT THE CAPITALS and EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

''he doesn't have to get "musicological" about it, but something more than "this fucking rocks!" would be welcome''

he thinks of music as a form of protest. It isn't music unless it does that. its not a get out clause.

but as I said above he provides a nice contrast (for me anyway) to other writers who discussed music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i remember when i used to read the nme i'd hear loads about him but never really notice anything he'd written
that article dj martian links to makes him sound like a fucking idiot

robin (robin), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

he is

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

or perhaps he IS!!!!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

he thinks of music as a form of protest. It isn't music unless it does that. its not a get out clause.

and tht's even worse than geir - and at least he can go some way towards explaining his crackpot theories

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

3y3 qu0t3 fr0m thee l1nk p0st0r3d ab0v3:

We must glorify whatever subversive genius occasionally streaks the mainstream pop midden. By which of course I mean Pink, Good Charlotte, (.....)

P!NK.

G00d C|-|/-\rl0++3.

"Subversive g3n1us"

eh...fuck 'im.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

He is shit, I don't care what he likes or dislikes, I just think his "I'm nuts me" schtick is boring, and his reviews that begin with "YEEEEEEEEEARGH" can fuck right off too.

I didn't realise there was a big fuss about him. He is fine if you don't actually have any opinions or hang ups about music or you hate most music and want to read reviews out of sheer boredom or jadedness.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

YEEEEEEEEEARGH Ronan ROCKS!!!!!!! :-)

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

haha! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

all the hataz should DIEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And extra torture and pain should go to ppl who make assumptions abt ppl who like him.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

PERVERTUAL

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

His review of Sonic Youth in 'Bang' is the 2nd worst thing i've ever read. The worst thing was in NME when Johnny Cigarettes (i think it was but I may be wrong) did a hellish article slagging SY. Im by no means a fan of SY but why not do a 'sacred cow slaughter article' when a band is at its peak of "hipness" and not at a low ebb. I honestly thought it was someone like Noel Gallagher who had written it.

Gerry Pate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I disagree with most of wells' opinions on particurlar bands etc but still.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I love how when the editor of "Bang" was called to task on his magazine being hopelessly out of touch with what music fans want from a magazine nowadays, his first line of defense was "Steven Wells" writes for us. It just needed to be accompanied by the chorus of 30,000 football fans chanting "NME reject"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

there's nothing subversive about Pink, that's what makes her good

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know why he has a job. He's an imbecile. But beyond that - his 'socialistic' politics seem to clash with the totalitarianism expressed in his writing. He is extremely intolerant for someone that supports (at least in his political writing) a more open society - for instance he hates vegans, vegetarians, businessmen, indie music, students etc etc). I love how he claims to hate violence but recently wrote an article calling Liam Gallagher great for getting into punch ups and his writing is always about killing or maiming something. He calls anyone a racist for the slightest of things too which I've never understood. He really is a penis but NME prints his stuff because it gets people speaking. I don't understand ILM - you fall into his trap and this is what keeps him in employment.

Calum, Thursday, 8 May 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not a fan, but a good friend finds him vastly entertaining.

Wells -totalitarian? Come on. Totalatarianism, is by definition, something which must be enforced, which seeks to exclude or suppress opposing opinions - Wells works in the music press, and as such, knows full well he's part of an unfurling debate, albeit a fairly heated internal one given the NME's lack of direct competition.

I suspect Wells is a fairly reasonable chap attempting to lend some militancy to his opinions, both in the interests of good copy, not being to mealy mouthed, and because it's well, more fun. Obviously a desire to keep the mailbag bulging plays it part too, and that's probably why in small doses, Wells is fairly entertaining. But, week on week, the obvious attempts to stoke controversy grate, and limit him as a writer - stuck forever in a strident (if occasionally very funny) rut.

That said, he's one of the better writers of a fairly strong bunch at Bang, which I like, but don't think will see next year. More's the pity.

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Who the fuck is Steven Wells?

the guy that writes like 10,000 words about he reviews, HE'S the worst writer ever. can't remember his name now, but whenever you read it it's just Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz JESUS CHRIST JUST FUCKING TELL ME IF YOU LIKE THE ALBUM OR NOT.

Evan (Evan), Friday, 9 May 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

calum in not understanding someone else's sense of humour shockah!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 9 May 2003 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I know Swells and have to say that he was by far and away the nicest *man* working at the NME when I was. If he honestly thinks music is only good as a form of protest, it's probably down to him thinking there's a lot in the world worth protesting about and as artists, musicians should very possibly engage with that. I don't really have a problem with his writing either but I know he's all about the NEL pulp style, so when I see him writing POW! CRASH!-style, at least I know why.

What many of you hataz don't know is that he had a hand in TV stuff you love ie. The Day Today and other Chris Morris projects.

And by the way, I don't really think he jonesed for Daphne and Celeste. Swells has always had a thing for posh blondes (when I saw evidence of this I started to call him Clarse Warrior).

suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 May 2003 09:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I did know that about him... still a duff writer... david quantick has been involved i plenty of funny tv, too, but i still don't like him as a writer either...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 9 May 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

''he had a hand in TV stuff you love ie. The Day Today and other Chris Morris projects''

didn't know that and now i like him even more.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 9 May 2003 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew that and my opinion still stands. What he wrote about vegetarians in an old NME Student issue (and I say this as someone who is not a vegetarian, still eating white meat from time to time as I do) was offensive beyond belief. His attacks on minority groups are shocking... unless it's an issue of colour in which case everyone is a racist.

The man is a penis. Fact.

Calum, Friday, 9 May 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

stelfox in agreeing-with-calum-twice-in-as-many-days shockah...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 9 May 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

haven't read him for 10 years. seem to remember he was bloody amusing.
i don't feel the need to always read someone with the same opinions as mine to agree with all the time though...

gaz (gaz), Friday, 9 May 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)


there's nothing subversive about Pink, that's what makes her good

an incredible insight.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 9 May 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

His point -- look for subversion in the mainstream, not hanging around outside waving a banner which says 'I'm Subversive U R All Gay' -- seems fairly uncontroversial. But since he's writing in one style not another all the necessary qualifications (nothing is intrinsically 'subversive', it's all about time and place) have to be taken as read.

I'm not quite sure what people object to:
a) he thinks politics is more important than music?
b) he tries to be funny rather than a sad-arse trainspotter?
c) he likes bands / music you don't?
d) he's old?
or more likely, as usual in music journo slagging sessions:
e) he get's paid for it, I don't?

alext (alext), Friday, 9 May 2003 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

His politics and confused, hypocritical and, ultimately, don't make any sense. If he hates capitalism so much then making a video for a Sony-backed rock band (Manics) and writing for a magazine that is supported by Coca Cola and Carlsberg hardly seems fitting.

Like saying "I'm not a racist, I hate racism, but I just happen to make a living from being on the publicity officer for the BNP"

He's stupid. That's the problem.

Calum, Friday, 9 May 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

His politics are confused, hypocritical and, ultimately, don't make any sense. If he hates capitalism so much then making a video for a Sony-backed rock band (Manics) and writing for a magazine that is supported by Coca Cola and Carlsberg hardly seems fitting.

Like saying "I'm not a racist, I hate racism, but I just happen to make a living from being on the publicity officer for the BNP"

He's stupid. That's the problem.

Calum, Friday, 9 May 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I object to mainly the fact that he doesn't really know much about music, review very well, or mention the bands he's reviewing in the reviews.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

My main objection is that he actually doesn't discuss politics, and instead uses dumb, 6th form Socialism as a stick to beat bands he doesn't particularly like with.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

b) he tries to be funny rather than a sad-arse trainspotter?...

e) he get's paid for it, I don't?

he's not funny and, haha, I get paid for being a "sad-arse trainspotter"...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

yes (b) there is like saying your local doctor sings opera instead of making boring medical diagnoses.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

''I knew that and my opinion still stands. What he wrote about vegetarians in an old NME Student issue (and I say this as someone who is not a vegetarian, still eating white meat from time to time as I do) was offensive beyond belief.''

it amused me.

''His politics and confused''

and therefore real but that is not the case here.

''If he hates capitalism so much then making a video for a Sony-backed rock band (Manics) and writing for a magazine that is supported by Coca Cola and Carlsberg hardly seems fitting.''

he explains this quite clearly in the article linked to above.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I once accussed Julio of being a typical NME reader and he denied ever reading NME.

You just slipped up mate.

Calum, Friday, 9 May 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

did I? bcz I did read it for three, maybe four years (and why the 'slipping up' comment now. its quite obv from my first post that I had read NME).

I have commented at length on the previous steven wells thread too I think.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

he "read" it for the articles.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Can we revive the Dave Tompkins thread instead of this?

Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The man is a penis. Fact.

Oooooooh. Such an insult!

Evan (Evan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

He's always been among my favourite writers in the music press. I use that phrasing with some care, because I don't much find what he says about the music especially interesting (though anyone who adores Daphne & Celeste is okay with me), but he was the one writer I always read, even when the subject was of no interest to me, because he was the only writer who always entertained me. He writes for the rock press (broadly), and I virtually never read any of that these days, so I don't know if that would still be true for me now.

His politics may be old-fashioned and not terribly carefully thought out, but I don't go to the music press for my political philosophy. I agree with him far more than not, and don't remember him ever really offending me.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 10 May 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The only thing I enjoyed that he ever wrote was a thing not long ago that he wrote for the Grauniad (iirc) about football (which he hates) He got beaten up by Lazio fans, I larfed. The man is a self-righteous, pompous cunt.

chris (chris), Sunday, 11 May 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Jamie Conway - are you *the* Jamie T. Conway of "Melody Maker Scottish correspondent" fame?

Calum is dead right re. Swells on vegetarians. There is one phrase that sticks in my mind from that piece: "Ning nang nong off"! Says it all.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 11 May 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Jamie Conway - are you *the* Jamie T. Conway of "Melody Maker Scottish correspondent" fame?

Dammit, THAT'S where I knew the name. I kept asking myself why it was familiar!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Rumbled. That would be me, inasmuch as I have anything in common with myself 6 years ago. Actually, my critique of Swells is a pretty good precis of my Melody Maker 'career,' which is best forgotten by all concerned. I'd be lying if I said wasn't flattered soomeone remembered though. Fame? Infamy strikes me as a better word, given the wankerdom and poor, reactionary prose I was frequently guilty of. Still, it was....... character building.

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(Are you still in Scotland? Whereabouts?)

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

given the wankerdom and poor, reactionary prose I was frequently guilty of

Really, Jamie? Gosh, I dunno, I remember thinking -- this would have been 1994, I guess -- "Ah! I like this Jamie character! He has sass." But hey. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

You're just 'easy', Ned.

(I do love you really. Actually, I was meaning to say, now's a good a time as any - I really (really) like your column in CTCL this month. As good as Kulkarni's (high praise, honest)).

< /fawning half-wit>

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 May 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

You're just 'easy', Ned.

Like Sunday morning.

I really (really) like your column in CTCL this month.

Hey, thanks. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha - Jamie T Conway!

In 1999 I sent a letter to the Melody Maker (it wasn't printed). It began like this (capitals in original):

"You complain about the sorry state of music now. I complain about the sorry state of journalism in your paper. Melody Maker is dismal. Most of you can't write. Melody Maker was once the home of lovably pretentious fanatics - Simon Price, Taylor Parkes, Chris Roberts, Everett True. I REMEMBER JAMIE T CONWAY! I was fifteen, and I was turned on by these guys' WRITING!"

So, hi Jamie! I still remember!

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Sunday, 11 May 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Hello Eyeball, Thanks for the kind words. Ditto Ned (You write for CTCL? Do you know Alistair Fitchett? Mate of mine). Nice to know there was someone listening.
Funnily enough, Eyeball, I wrote to the Maker in 1999 as well (under another name), replying to Danny Booths' idiotic Belle and Sebastian review (of the singles boxset, i think) which was also never printed, though there was a clear "reply" to it in one of his live reviews the next week. Heh heh.

It was sad watching it hobble itself, though the NME was outselling it by a fairly large margin even back in 1994 - 1996. Even if Sutherland ("a rugger playing twat," I heard, though having quit long before, I never had the pleasure) hadn't been allowed to run rampant, i doubt it would have survived. Which is why I think Bang will fail also. But: I thought that about CTCL, and by all accounts, it's doing handsomely, so what do I know?

Cozen - I wasn't fishing (well, maybe a bit) - I *really* don't like most of my Maker output. Reading some old reviews over a few years back all I could see the points where I could have written something better and reverted to cheap jokes and empty ranting. I'm critical to the point of counterproductiveness though, so perhaps I'm a poor judge.But as far as I'm concerned, I wrote 600 words during that period that were worth preserving, which have never been printed and weren't about music.

I'm not currently in Scotland, but Glasgow's still home. I've been EFL teaching in Eastern Europe for the past 6 months, where my teenagers think I'm subversive and I get to show my favourite Simpsons episodes under the pretext of exposing them to some "living English." Worth selling 97% of my record collection for, then. Oh. And there might be a novel, if can piece everything I've written in the last 6 months into one coherent narrative..........

Perhaps if I stop wasting time on the internet..........

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

(I don't mean to sound rude, but where did I say you were fishing? I'm just genuinely bamboozled.)

Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(And stick around, post some more... I'm only young so nothing about that era of MM but a lot of people I respect hold it in high regard and if you were part of that, well, then.)

Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't mean it in bad way Cozen - I thought your 'easy' reference to Ned was a way of gently chiding him for responding to my, well 'fishing.' Going a bit Sonny T there (bless im). My apologies.

My part in the golden era of MM was fairly minimal, though. There were far better folk than me there (Mr K for one).

I'll post again sometime but I've waited 31 years to write a book and really should get on with it......

Peace.

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

James - thanks for the above words. I still think you're too hard on your old MM writings, but then I can be horribly self-critical myself, so I'm one to talk. You weren't as good as Neil Kulkarni, but then I don't think anyone was (I am, admittedly, biased, considering that NK almost single-handedly turned me on to hip-hop and is therefore responsible for an awful lot of where I am at now, musically and personally).

I rather imagine you dislike it, but what are your thoughts on the Levellers / Prophets Of Da City review you wrote "in character" and the minor scandal it stirred up?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"James" = "Jamie", obv

robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

You weren't as good as Neil Kulkarni, but then I don't think anyone was

Neil was great from the moment he started appearing in the letters column. Then he got even better!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Indeed he did. He pretty much got me into hip hop n all. 50 Cent.

My thoughts - I don't have a copy, but I remember it fairly well.Anything I write "in character" is easier for me to deal with, so I'd probably find it quite bearable (but if anyone has a copy - let's not test that, eh?). Before I disposed of my cuttings, I remember showing it to one of the friends who spent my late 20's nagging me to write again. His reaction: "JESUS! That's.........dark. Really fucking dark. And you so sunny! How come?"

There was a valid point in there somewhere, though apart from the "controversial bit" it was probably a tad clumsy. About Mr Wells level, perhaps. But I dealt with the ensuing "controversy" fairly badly, rather dimly failing to appreciate its rather obvious origins (though you'd think Allan Jones might at least have had an inkling) and backing down slightly, which was more than I should have, even if hadn't been a press stunt. I think only my mum and my gran thought I handled it well, and well, they would. The letter from the 16 year old girl the following week saying "I wasn't the writer I thought she was" for being so easily intimidated was properly humbling/shaming. Words that echoed in my mind often before I finally quit.

Like I said - the Maker was.... character building.

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And Robin - try not to beat yourself up too much. If you do something you don't like, don't do it again and remember what you did like. It's the product that matters, not the process (unless you're Italo Calvino).

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm glad this thread mutated! I was a fan of Jamie T. Conway's work at the Maker as well.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

can anyone tell me what this controversy was? i think i missed it at the time..

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I find the man funny. He's a breath of fresh air compared to the boring shites at the NME who write about some no talent knobs who come from New York. Although he can get quite tiresome, I'd rather read him than Steve fucking Sutherland.

BUT THE BEST JOURNALIST EVER IS MR BIFFO OF DIGITISER. HE'S THE CHRIS MORRIS OF COMPUTER GAME WRITING. LE POMPT-DE-POMPT DE DOMPT!

mrgeeta, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

BIFFO PROPS ON ILM! Good LORD. And kudos.

Alex in Rotherham (alexfack), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Jamie, nice to see you again.

Take it from me, though, that Levellers review wasn't great. I mean, I did like your stuff in general, but that one was poor, I thought (I haven't just turned up to criticise, I am going somewhere with this). It wasn't that there was anything wrong or untrue with the points you were making, it was the really heavy irony; it came across as clumsy, because rather than getting into the mind of the kind of dumb kid you were pretending to be, it went through a lot of obvious, silly things that *no one* would *ever* actually say, sort of like the satirical equivalent of caricature.

But - that's why the fuss was so ludicrous (I forget the details, but lots of people took this in-character review at face value and got very angry, flooding the paper with complaints of 'racism' and stuff...in retrospect, I suspect flak, an organised letter campaign by some crackpots). Probably no one ever told you, but I did the letters page around the time *it was decided* to capitulate to the idiots, and I wrote a "Viewpoint" or whatever it was called at the time, defending you, and saying something along the lines that the day we watch what we say because of what fools might think, it's a bad day for everyone. An agonized Everett took me to one side and said "Look, you understand why I can't print this." But the thing was, I didn't understand it at all, and I was furious.

If I'd have been you, and had encountered that lack of support from my editors, I'd most certainly have walked. But as it was, Allan Jones did stand up for me on the odd occasions people cut up rough or threatened legal / punitive action, and more or less told them to fuck off. To this day, I don't know why they all caved in over your review. Can you remember who the complainers actually were? That might shed some light.

Taylor Parkes, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

julio desouza is a twat.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, I didn't read the last twenty posts on this thread.

hi jamie.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

and RJG is a smelly hippie.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

can someone provide a link to this piece please?

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Possibly the worst article on football ever:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,10488,955222,00.html

chris (chris), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus I can't even read the fucking first two paragraphs, it's like something a 15 year old would write. Even the fucking picture. I admit when I berated him earlier upthread I only had vague NME memories of my dislike for the guy. But I remember certainly thinking that he was like the really unfunny people at school finally given a podium to dispense their fucking awful cliche student humour from and frankly I think that article justified my memory.


What utter nonsense. Grow up.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Does Wells lame ott analogies remind you of any ILXor? Calum are you reading?


"The Bacofoil-Helmeted Nutter Who Thinks His Neighbour's CIA-Trained Dog Is Mind-Controlling Him Through Beatles Lyrics Beamed Into His Fillings Award"

This isn't funny! Pseudo monty python word jizz isn't funny! Christ time to take some deep breaths and calm down for me I think!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to think he was funny, but I got bored after I grew a brain. His, "FUCK CUNT BOLLOCKS SHAGG!!!" Style of writing is desperation incarnate.

And don't even get me started on his piss poor excuse for a novel.

gollywang, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Possibly the worst article on football ever:

What do you mean, "possibly"? My grandfather could write a better article than that, and he's been pushing up daisies for 20 odd years. Sheesh, that's some bad writing.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

It is actually so unbelievably bad I can't even fathom how a newspaper is willing to use it. I mean people say things like this and verge on hyperbole alot of the time but genuinely that article is abysmal.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

there were some funny bits but he's far better on music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

please, where were the funny bits? I've looked everywhere and I can't find them.

Every article he's written on footie has been awful (apart from the one where he got beaten up, but that was funny purely cos he got beaten up) The Grauniad commissioners should be hanging their heads in shame at getting him to do that column.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The last para made me smile.

never read him on sport before actually.

but what is funny to one person might not be funny to the other. but this one just isn't anywhere near the music article linked to earlier in this thread.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I did actually find the Matt Busby thing funny. But other than that yeah, it's terrible.

Ferg (Ferg), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like the man.

gollywang (gollywang), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Hello Taylor.

Funnily enough, I mulled over the Levellers review at some length just after posting, and concluded it must have been pretty poor for precisely those reasons. I was retreating behind irony a lot by that point, Whether I'd have been able to handle the idea with greater subtlety or insight in 600 words (or more), then or now, is another matter.

It only occurred to me as I was typing my previous post that Allan J (or anyone) *should* or might have backed me up, or wanted to - what that says about me is another story. No one mentioned your Viewpoint, though it's probably for the best it didn't appear, since it'd probably have puffed me to new levels of self-righteousness and offered all the wrong kinds of encouragement. Not that I needed any, by that point.

I don't remember any names other than the aforementioned 16 year old (Kate. From Reading, bless her. Thanks for getting that in, at least). but I remember reading over the copies of the letters (one from the Prophets press office, another from some guy whose first name might have been Simon) later and thinking there was a certain similarity in tone, or that the latter echoed the former in some way. But I could have been wrong about that.

As to why they caved in: Hmmmmm. I'd guess a combination of two things; firstly, that it didn't seem worth defending such an artless piece, and secondly, that an unknown quantity wasn't regarded as worth going out on a limb for, in the same way that say, there's one standard for temp workers and one for permanent. I know you were another freelancer too, but the fact you were an office staple will have made a difference. I was just a voice on the phone. And your popularity would have made you an obvious asset to any smart editor. Despite the above (thanks Nicole), my passing would have caused justifiably few ripples, and it would definitely have been better for me I had walked (or been pushed) into templand at that point.

Happy Birthday.

Oh, and Mr Desouza - lay off my mate Gillanders. He's got a wife and two quiffs to support.


Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Thursday, 15 May 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

and you forgot that he has buildings to design too!

(he is an architect, oh yes!)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"possibly the worst article on football ever:

what do you mean "possibly"? my grandfather could write better than that, and he's been pushing up daisies for 20 odd years. sheesh that's some bad writing

-- Dom Passantino"

sigh, haha unreal! remind me how the fuck your own brand of lame off-the-peg wit is any different to wells'?

Chip Morningstar (bob), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

or maybe you just reached a sublime transcendent level of self-effacing irony?

Chip Morningstar (bob), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

How you doin?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

fookin' shite, mate

Chip Morningstar (bob), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

You wanna try some of that Vanilla Coke. S'great.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

it isn't.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 May 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...
This is a brutally moving and funny piece. TOTALLY lacking in self-pity.

Venga (Venga), Monday, 4 September 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

Damn right!

I spent about 6 months on and off in hosp, back in 1987, nothing as life threatening as that story (op'd on Crohns Dis, iymk) but many things there I recognise. Glad I didn't have a wife or g/f then, mainly to spare them the agony of seeing someone you love go through it. And yes, you don't 'bravely' fight it, you live moment to moment until it's over.

Swells is a great writer, just wasn't a great writer every time. I'd buy his book!

Sorry, I'm typing rubbish now, but that was pretty goddamn on the money.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 4 September 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's a great piece, and I speak as someone who wasn't spared the agony of seeing someone I love go through it, except thank fuck it was only five-and-a-half weeks, so there was no radio or chemo, it was quick and brutal and all either of us could do was to hang on for as long and as desperately as we could...but sod the transference, no two cases are comparable, but he's absolutely bloody OTM and anyone arguing in favour of the "privatisation" of the NHS should use this piece as a prime frontline example of the zero difference it would actually make to anything.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 September 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

brilliant article.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 4 September 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

i have re-read that article so many times since it went online.
there was a follow up as well sent out to those how contacted him.
i hope i aint betraying trust .. but this was the main section :


I'm doing chemo right now - which isn't crazy fun but
is also far from being a nightmare,

What I've got is Hodgkins lymphoma which I have been
told many times, is the common cold of cancers.

So, given all the crap I've done over the years, I've
got off lightly.

I feel I ought to stress that - thanks to Katharine's
insurance - we're NOT facing massive medical bills.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 4 September 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Good to know.

He always struck me as an OK bloke, 'writing persona' of old to the contrary.

Despite never having met him and other evidence to the contrary, buy hey.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 4 September 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

i like his writing persona!

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 4 September 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sinker and I were talking about him in the pub on Friday as one of the two funniest music writers there has ever been (Danny Baker at his peak being the other one).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 September 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

There's a really good piece by Swells in Bizarre this month, a history of group onanism. Where's most of his stuff been since leaving the NME anyway? And how come he didn't write for the Ianucci/Morris axis post-The Day Today?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 4 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i had no idea he was in the US, or who he's been writing for. does he still do the guardian sports column?

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 4 September 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, ILM opinion on him seems to be a tad more favourable three-and-a-bit years on. Where be the hataz?

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 September 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

So that article was published two months ago? When was that "follow-up" written? How is he now? This is so sad!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 4 September 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

the 'followup' was in various email boxes for those that contacted him
.. not online.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

For all his faults compare Swells to any writer on today's NME. End of argument.

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

---------------- otm here --------------------------------->8

bad hair day house (fandango), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://www.bowlie.com/forum/belle-and-sebastian/17794-steven-wells-nme.html

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 2 September 2007 11:00 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I have ever read Steven Wells say anything interesting about music.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 2 September 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

RIP big man, heaven needed someone to give Asian Dub Foundation and the Dandy Warhols positive reviews

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

swells is a giant.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 2 September 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

He's a twat who dares you to think he's a twat.

Because then he has entered your consciousness, and that for him is a victory.

PhilK, Sunday, 2 September 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

My favourite piece of Wells writing was from about 1997 when he did his RIGHT I AM GOING TO MAKE SHED SEVEN INTERESTING FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER thing.

Rick Witter (spouting on about something): "Yeah, I think I'd like to spend a day as a woman. I'd like to know what it's like to be penetrated."

Wells: "You are of course aware that you don't need to be a woman to do that?"

Witter (mouth open): "...."

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 September 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

I was rereading 98-00 NMEs at the British Library the other week, as part of a potential article, and what it struck me was that Swells was a fantastic interviewer (his Sonic Youth piece was amazing), but an awful, awful reviewer.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

The nadir would obviously be the Belle and Sebastian interview, where Stuart Murdoch plays him like Ace/Jack suited, and Wells' response basically amounts to "Haven't you even read "No Logo"".

I'm glad I mocked this statement at the time. Stuart Murdoch 'playing him like Ace/Jack suited' actually entailed Stuart Murdoch writing a really stroppy letter to the NME the following week, going "Dear Steven Wells, I haven't read your piece about us in the NME but people have told me about it you're a lousy journalist... (babbles on for a bit) ... okay, I've read your piece now, maybe you're not such a bad journalist but you're still wrong."

Even when I didn't agree with him (about 75% of the time) he was always worth reading and in retrospect I kind of agree with what he was trying to do - eg using the singles column to slate every single hyped arse-end-of-1998 indie band and then giving Single of the Week to En Vogue.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 September 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

I was rereading 98-00 NMEs at the British Library the other week, as part of a potential article, and what it struck me was that Swells was a fantastic interviewer (his Sonic Youth piece was amazing), but an awful, awful reviewer.

-- Dom Passantino, Sunday, September 2, 2007 2:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

am kind of surprised we haven't met, d. this is the kind of shit i do for weekend phun.

i was searching for a thing i thought he wrote about the beautiful south in the '90s, but maybe it wasn't him(?).

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 2 September 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/print_friendly.php?id=12342

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 2 September 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a sometime SY fan, and I laughed at that.

Soukesian, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

If anyone is interested in commissioning a 10,000 article about the NME between the releases of "OK Computer" and "Is This It", holla.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

i hope you've emptied your inbox recently, shit is going to get swamped.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

Also, if you're reading this and you're the cute Swedish girl who was photocopying the indie charts from back issues of Music Week for your dissertation, I would like to nail you.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

i hope you've emptied your inbox recently, shit is going to get swamped.

Frogman Henry, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

"inbox"

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Swells is totally classic, I just wish he'd write more CD reviews!

And Tits Out Teenage Terror Totty is amazing.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 2 September 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

When I first encountered Swells in the NME I thought he was a genius(well, I was fourteen), but by the time I'd stopped buying it in 1999, his ranting just seemed embarrassing and juvenile. The problem wasn't just that I'd grown out of him, it was that his writing had actually declined to the point of self-parody. The final nail in the coffin was a laughable piece of punk fan-fiction about what would've happened if the Sex Pistols had gone into government, which was the kind of thing you might expect to be written by a teenager getting into politics for the first time. Also the fact that he(and the rest of the wretched paper) was still getting off on the notion that Morrissey might be an EVILE RASCISTE, even though that had been pretty much disproven by then.

But still, I'll never forget the column he wrote at the height of the Dead Di madness of 1997, which was absolutely spot-on. I can still quote some of it to this very day("is the mood of our nation really to be determined by a mob of grief-demented royal tea towel collectors?").

Wasn't he writing for Kerrang for a while post-NME? I think it was Kerrang. I seem to remember he was calling himself "Cardinal Swells" and there was a photo of dressed in a flying helmet and goggles. Hmm.

Pheeel, Sunday, 2 September 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

Metal Hammer I think. His gleefulness at smacking down crappy metal bands never really matched his gleefulness at smacking down crappy indie bands

DJ Mencap, Monday, 3 September 2007 09:07 (eighteen years ago)

i remember a rare visit ot NME, putting tricky woo's 'sometimes i cry' album on the stereo, and SWELLS walking over and turning the volume up. he is a star for that, at the very least. he also has a strong choke-hold.

stevie, Monday, 3 September 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

Because then he has entered your consciousness, and that for him is a victory.

So... sWells is actually nude spock? Who knew?

Pashmina, Monday, 3 September 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

Stevie, was D*niel B**th specifically hired as an erstatz Swells or did he adopt that style of his own accord?

Dom Passantino, Monday, 3 September 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

For championing Atari Teenage Riot when everyone else at the NME was going mad over Terris, I give thanks.

Neil S, Monday, 3 September 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

(even though ATR are actually a bit rubbish)

Neil S, Monday, 3 September 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.readwritethink.org/lesson_images/lesson184/frying_pan_fire.gif

xp, hah

Dom Passantino, Monday, 3 September 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

i never thought em to be *that similar in style to be honest, dom - daniel always seemed to be aiming more for a simon price/taylor parkes type of thing, but i don't really know. i'm sure daniel had more of a tolerance for the manics-youth-brigade than SWELLS. SWELLS was hilarious company, in the best way, the few times i travelled with him.

stevie, Monday, 3 September 2007 11:36 (eighteen years ago)

I think it was on here, or possibly via one of my mates, where it was mentioned that Daniel Booth basically admitted to not really having much interest in music generally

DJ Mencap, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

like noel edmonds

RJG, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

there's an interview he did with a zine back in the late 90s where he said he'd much rather be writing about football.

stevie, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

The doors of 90 Minutes were hard to pass through.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

manics-youth-brigade

where did they all go?

acrobat, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

poptimists.livejournal.com/

Dom Passantino, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

jokes bruv

Dom Passantino, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/10/bring_back_the_screamers_of_po.html

a little taste of the B&S piece but still no sign of the original online...

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

What's really scary is the way all three policemen in that picture look EXACTLY THE SAME.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

like noel edmonds

-- RJG, Monday, 3 September 2007 12:14 (1 month ago) Link

Dom Passantino, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

It's kinda embarassing to see dudes to still "PUNK MUSIC WAS SO REVOLUTIONARY, MAN", considering that the Ramones' sole contribution to music has been hockey theme tunes and The Donnas.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

^^^bizzaro world Swells

DJ Mencap, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

i don't think he means to be taken literally etc?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

who does?

Mark G, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure most music writers basically "mean what they say" in a pretty straightforward manner -- don't get the feeling petridis or whoever is playing games with us.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

what videos did swells direct?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUaytvw9AaM";>This is one</A> that comes up if you search youtube. It's rather silly.

Joris Stereo, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

malformed video id. but he did some for st etienne and the manic street preachers.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah...the capital letters guy, i remember!

pc user, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Swells OTM re Bunker Hill. Someone get that man a Rallizes bootleg.

Soukesian, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/04/jon_savage_the_pop_swot_its_ok.html

reynolds zing

banriquit, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

As anybody who's read Simon Frith or Simon Reynolds knows, most pop eggheads write like they've never danced, smiled or had an orgasm, never mind experienced the empowering, exciting, spine-tingling, head-exploding, genitals-engorging rush that comes with being part of one of the great pop culture "moments".

B-b-but I got Energy Flash and it's all about joy and dancing (obvs) and rushes and bliss and great pop culture "moments". Dude needs to put some research into his zings, perhaps he could make fun of Reynold's glasses or something. And I like the way he puts in the little "I've been called a nerd and a puff so I'm not a total meathead, honest" disclaimer in at the start.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:15 (seventeen years ago)

i like reynolds but 'energy flash' is more about 'the politics of dancing' than dancing, more about the idea of joy than joy. cue old ilx dbag to explain how there's no diff, i guess, but reynolds' deal is partly about idealizing how other people dance. generally people who are not like reynolds -- in a sense he is the morrissey of rock crit.

banriquit, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

Hmmm... I dunno, isn't that him just trying to be a bit more objective/less self-obsessed? Otherwise he'd end up sounding like the Everett True of dance crit: "The first time I heard The Ragga Twins, I was at Rage on six pills and tyring to make it with this raver chick called..."

And most of the time when someone's writing about the numerous dance scenes across the world they weren't there, so they have to take a bit of distance.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)

lol that's coz simes was still an indie-kid-who-hated-indie when house music started coming into the uk innit.

banriquit, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

Wasn't he into all kinds of noisy electronic weirdness like Front 242 or The Young Gods? Not such a huge leap to getting into the more wigged out side of early house/techno.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

And when house music came to the UK, everybody would have been into some other scene like indie or soulboys or b-boys or whatever The Face was bigging up that month, so they were all strangers to it.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

i dunno, maybe, but his "epiphany" was c. 1990 i think, and he does talk about it. i actually don't care about being 'objective' in the way you were saying, more that -- we talk about this alll the tiiime -- the "intelligent = bad/ruffneck = real" thing can be really limiting.

xpost

yeah but house came in in like mid-1986.

thing is reynolds REALLY HATES soulboys AND indie kids and it's a bit like, he doesn't have a tribe of his own, and idealizes the east end. or something.

banriquit, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

Well, OK. I suppose there's a thin line between being enthusiastic about some great new thing and fetishising the people involved in it. But don't Wells and similar writers fetishise the "real" feelings of teenagers and their own punk-rockin' teen years through rose tinted specs?

Bodrick III, Saturday, 29 March 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

There is no racism - casual, institutional or overt - in indie music. If indie musicians state that English identity is threatened by immigration, that is not racist. And if indie fans talk about hip-hop in language reminiscent of that used by Adolf Hitler to describe Jews in Mein Kampf (”contamination”, “filth”, “disease”) that too isn’t racist. In fact to even suggest that it might be racist, is racist - racist against white males who just happen to despise black music and only like music made my white males for white males.

A case in point: Emily Eavis recently made the statement that Glastonbury ticket sales were slow because headliners Kings Of Leon, Jay Z and The Verve “are all good but not A-list bands”.

This was reported on NME.com under the headline ‘Glastonbury Attendance Down Because Of Medium Range Jay-Z’.

Many NME readers, not one of whom is even slightly racist, responded to the shocking news that a coloured chap would be headlining Glastonbury - Western civilisation’s premier Aryan folk music festival - with much gnashing of teeth and rending of all-white band logo-ed T-shirts.

“Jay-Z and hip-hop is not what Glasto is all about and never has been,” pointed out a poster on NME.com.

“The festival needs to stay true to itself and that does not include hip hop acts,” agreed another reader. “Bring back Oasis or Radiohead - they are classics that people never bore of seeing at Glasto - this is what it is all about- not Jay-Z.”

Glastonbury: Aryan folk festival

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

Emily Eavis recently made the statement that Glastonbury ticket sales were slow because headliners Kings Of Leon, Jay Z and The Verve “are all good but not A-list bands”.

Then why is she booking them then?

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

yea there's some commentary on this on the noel gallagher/glastonbury thread.

banriquit, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

Mainly "lol Steven Wells" basically...

Neil S, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

He's like the Warhammer 40,000 of rock criticism.

Fucking genius upthread from Tico Tico.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

bump 4 da reload

banriquit, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

lol

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:14 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.thequietus.com/2008/05/what-we-dont-need-is-an-alternative-oldster

I believe the phrase is "u mad, doggie"

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:32 (seventeen years ago)

Dom is 25? blimey...

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:46 (seventeen years ago)

Too old? Too young?

Tom D., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:48 (seventeen years ago)

yeah.

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:52 (seventeen years ago)

passing the torch

DG, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:03 (seventeen years ago)

"Primark Charlie Brooker"!!!!!

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:03 (seventeen years ago)

We have beef!

Neil S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

LOL. Good god, Dom.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:13 (seventeen years ago)

101 reasons why punk sucks

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:16 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.sfwchan.com/pics/30443189.jpg

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

FAKE MAX R.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

10/10 for fake max r

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:18 (seventeen years ago)

0/10 for DiS disclaimers at the beginning and end of your CHALLENGING OPINION there. What exactly did they think was going to happen?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

IRL consequences

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:23 (seventeen years ago)

that'd be a wrestling match i'd love to see.

awesome, though: top work. both of you.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/74/250px-PDVD_889.jpg

Bodrick III, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

henry gay miller // May 7, 2008 at 12:07 am

man, imagine if dom was into some real insurrectionary future-punk shit like atari teenage riot or asian dub foundation or even primal scream’s XTRMNTR? that would BLOW THE FACIST TORY SCUM’S MINDS.

^^^lawling at this

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 11:54 (seventeen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Brains, power, and muscle, like Dame, Puffy, and Russell
Your boy back on his hustle, you know what I've been up to
Killin y'all niggaz on that lyrical shit
Mayonnaise colored Benz, I push Miracle Whips

Brohan Hari, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:59 (seventeen years ago)

Pronto llegara
el dia de mi suerte
te lo juro por mi gente
te juro que un dia llegara
And we won't stop
We always knew we'd make it
Even though you player hated
we still made it to the top

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:01 (seventeen years ago)

Nice equation of autism with racism made by SWells in those quietus comments there. If it'd been Shaun or Bez he would have pounced on them in a second.

Just saying, like.

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:37 (seventeen years ago)

also having cloth ears. the BASTARD.

Brohan Hari, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:40 (seventeen years ago)

Cloth caps. Cloth ears. 'Appen it's grim being a Northern skinhead.

Tom D., Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.sfwchan.com/pics/30443189.jpg

^^^this is probably the best thing posted to ILM in maybe two years

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:43 (seventeen years ago)

http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,2285562,00.html

^^ actually calls for a new punk rock

banriquit, Sunday, 15 June 2008 10:38 (seventeen years ago)

sike but it does bring up sid vicious as an edgy and relevant role model.

banriquit, Sunday, 15 June 2008 10:39 (seventeen years ago)

Jon Robb is worse, tho:

http://www.thequietus.com/2008/05/black-sky-thinking-the-credit-crunch-is-good-for-rock-nroll/

Bodrick III, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:11 (seventeen years ago)

john robb is the worst writer of all time.

banriquit, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:15 (seventeen years ago)

actually no, second worst.

banriquit, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:16 (seventeen years ago)

I hope it's gonna be like the early 90s all over again, when Black Wednesday happened and only four years later Gold Blade released their debut album

DJ Mencap, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:54 (seventeen years ago)

I wonder what impact the credit crunch will have on Jon Robb's fucking ridiculous haircut and weird-ass voice.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Sunday, 15 June 2008 12:14 (seventeen years ago)

This article is stoopid anyway, look at some of the awesome music that's come out of booms: acid house, jiggy hip hop, 2step... Oh, and *cough* TEH SIXTIES.

The more money that's around in the economy in general, the more money there is for putting out records, putting on club nights, setting up labels, buying equipment, PAs, whatever.

Bodrick III, Sunday, 15 June 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

there isn't any correlation at all.

banriquit, Sunday, 15 June 2008 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

Records sales don't take a slump when the wider economy does the same?

I dunno, it would be interesting to see some figures.

Bodrick III, Sunday, 15 June 2008 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

record sales =! great era for music.

there have been good musics in boom times and bad time alike.

banriquit, Sunday, 15 June 2008 12:29 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, well that was my point. Not that the boom-era music was superior, more that it was just as good.

But I think it's better for musicians if they can actually get their music out there, that must be harder in a slump.

Bodrick III, Sunday, 15 June 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.thequietus.com/articles/dumbfuckingstan-vs-british-art-school-rock-it-s-no-contest

Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:26 (seventeen years ago)

sw;dr

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:29 (seventeen years ago)

I like how a band who have had 14 entries on the Billboard Hot 100 including a #2 are seen as not having broken America.

edwardo, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:31 (seventeen years ago)

Most US band tour buses keep a "slut book" in which photos of abused and degraded females are lovingly placed in a album that the drugfucked scum haul out for violent on-bus circle jerks.

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:39 (seventeen years ago)

Most US band tour busesmessage board zingers keep a "slut book" in which photos of abused and degraded females are lovingly placed in a album that the drugfucked scum haul out for violent on-bus circle jerks.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:41 (seventeen years ago)

The difference being, message board zingers have to use public transport.

Neil S, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:47 (seventeen years ago)

Rate the people sitting across or next to you on public transport

dang xpost

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

That would merit a 0/10 in anyone's book.

Neil S, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

He's very ill again.

Venga, Thursday, 16 April 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

I had a weird run-in with this guy. I don't entirely get what his deal is, but I guess at least he's, like, passionate about whatever it is.

nabisco, Thursday, 16 April 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

The first page of that article is brilliant, I'll read the rest later.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 April 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

i guess you were fucking listening, nitush [.]

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 16 April 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

hahahahahahahahaahahahahahah

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 16 April 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

Ha, yes, that! In any case, I totally wish him the best with treatment; that sounds rough as hell.

nabisco, Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

“Sorry about your relapse, but you already wrote about this. Write about something besides yourself.”

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

I dunno if it's burnout on my part (and prolly that of loads of other people) or if he really is much better (esp at this stage) at writing abt things other than music but that is a really great read

National Lampoon's Minimal House (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

That is a great, no-bullshit article. Fuck cancer.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 17 April 2009 01:04 (sixteen years ago)

"I have an interesting conversation with a 12-year-old anesthetist about the horse tranquilizer (and top disco drug) Ketamine and especially its relation to the new British dance craze, wonKy (a sort of mutated dub-step)."

poor guy, on top of all of this he's hallucinating simon reynolds

joe, Friday, 17 April 2009 01:28 (sixteen years ago)

Basically I love that he manages to work a gratuitous pop at Travis into an article about getting cancer for the second time in three years.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Friday, 17 April 2009 08:42 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

Swells passed away Tuesday

novamax, Thursday, 25 June 2009 05:06 (sixteen years ago)

well fuck. rip.

a wallaby, tripping balls (electricsound), Thursday, 25 June 2009 05:24 (sixteen years ago)

rest in splenetic, manufactured crankiness

fucken cumstomers (sic), Thursday, 25 June 2009 06:00 (sixteen years ago)

very sad news. rip you gorgeous grump.

mark e, Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:00 (sixteen years ago)

Shit.

Venga, Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:11 (sixteen years ago)

RIP... was fleetingly wondering to myself how he was doing like two days ago :(

DJ MARTIAN IS A KING AMONG MEN. Dan Perry, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:14 (sixteen years ago)

I say this quite often, but I say it now, and never more so than now...

NME HAD BETTER DO A DAMN TRIBUTE !

Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:16 (sixteen years ago)

Fuck off cancer.

Venga, Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:18 (sixteen years ago)

RIP Big Guy, heaven needed someone to call Jesus a dirty hippy.

Stobby Buld (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:40 (sixteen years ago)

Didn't know he was even ill. RIP.

Remember him being on a radio-broadcast debate at the Oxford Union about the relative worth of pop and classical music. Some Oxford twerp said "I would just like to quote a celebrated lyric from pop music that tells you all you need to know. 'A wop bop a loo bop/A lop bam ... boom'". (polite laughter)

To which Swells replied "And I'd like to give you some classical music. De de de derrrr" (to the tune of Beethoven's 5th).

He was funny, sometimes.

Alba, Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:46 (sixteen years ago)

After everything, still miss him now he's gone.

RIP

Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:48 (sixteen years ago)

Genuinely surprised at how saddened I am by this. RIP, you mad fucker.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 25 June 2009 10:57 (sixteen years ago)

This is shocking, RIP. I never agreed with his opinions on music but I had a great affection for the way he wrote.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:00 (sixteen years ago)

Jesus, never liked the guy much, as a writer, but RIP

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:13 (sixteen years ago)

I loved Steven Wells fiercely from the day I met him at NME and FUCK FUCK FUCK cancer. Again. Swells, RIP.

bad hijab (suzy), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:30 (sixteen years ago)

Yes this sucks, up there with Anthony Wilson and John Peel in terms of shockingness for me. RIP.

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:45 (sixteen years ago)

No mention on NME website :-( but not really surprising

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:49 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/45590

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:53 (sixteen years ago)

Was hoping for some tributes by today's hot new electroclash stars plus some bloke I've never heard of out of the Enemy but never mind.

Stobby Buld (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:56 (sixteen years ago)

"I have already planned my own funeral. I will sit up in the coffin, sporting a huge embalmed grin, my right hand waving with animatronic enthusiasm as my left hand furiously pumps an embalmed and cosmetically enlarged erection."

James Mitchell, Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:59 (sixteen years ago)

Oops my bad!

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:00 (sixteen years ago)

what tom d said

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:06 (sixteen years ago)

so sad. had some minimal contact with him & he was a real gent. rip.

zappi, Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:25 (sixteen years ago)

I had no idea he was ill either :( Swells was my fave nasty grump in the 80s-90s NME heyday. He was a bastard but I loved him for it. Peel had his place, and Steven did too. I'm genuinely devastated by this news.

stoned wallabies signal aliens (Trayce), Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:31 (sixteen years ago)

I'd heard he was ill the first time around but not about the relapse; am sitting here intermittently in tears and/or making sure people who knew and loved him have heard about this. One of the sites he wrote for has posted the obit headline SWELLS DIES, CAPS LOCK BUTTONS SIGH IN RELIEF. Which I'm sure he approved well before it needed to be used.

bad hijab (suzy), Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:58 (sixteen years ago)

I'm sure he'd appreciate the fact that his memorial thread is mostly comprised of people slagging him off.

RIP.

Pheeel, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:35 (sixteen years ago)

the comments under that article are wonderful.

mark e, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)

God, (the first one today, not the NME one)...

That comments section contains all the names you would hope to find on a Swellsy tribute. Except for Stuart Murdoch, but there's time. (even Norman Strike, blimey!)

Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

77. Ted Chippington said... on Jun 25, 2009 at 08:50AM

“SEE YA MATE RIP”

aw

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:06 (sixteen years ago)

Kitty Empire's comment is so fantastic: "Rest in peace? Peace?! As if. NEVER SURRENDER."

la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

Links to further tributes here and here, including one from Los Campesinos!...which if you read this will explain much. As well as a few comments upthread...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

Damn, great funny writer, even (or more so) when he destroyed the stuff you loved. Latterly his sports writing was a wonderful reminder of his talent. Will put the B & S away and listen to some Napalm Death to honour his memory.

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

RIP. His writing for NME often made me laugh until it hurt. PUNK ROCK!

Soukesian, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

Man, this is weird. I didn't even know he was ill, and I didn't realise how much I miss when the NME was actually worth reading until this just made me think about it.

RIP.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

You can get to this via Ned's links above, but James Brown in the Guardian is a fantastic wee read.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:28 (sixteen years ago)

Uh, nobody's yet mentioned the utterly reality-boggling prescience of nebbesh? 6 years ahead of the curve, man...

Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)

The comments on the original article continue to grow -- and one's been posted from Neil Tennant, short but sweet:

“One of the most passionate people writing about music. For that, we all thank him.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

Just posted in comments:

Hi all,

I spoke with Steven's wife Katherine this afternoon, and she's very moved by the outpouring of support shown both in the comments here and the gobs of tributes creeping out of every corner of the web today. She's asked that I ask anyone who knew him here if they might send scanned pictures of Steven from the 80s/90s. They will be used at his memorial service in a slideshow we're planning so, please, if you have them—or anything you might have you think could add—please email me at bmcmanus @ philadelphiaweekly .com

Much appreciated. Thanks so much. Look forward to hearing from you.

Brian McManus
Philadelphia Weekly, music editor

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

This man hated every band I ever cared about. Quite right too. RIP SKULLFUCKING ROCK'N'ROLL STORMTOOPER SPUNK NAZI!!!!!

DavidM, Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

oh my god @ swells' choice of closing quote

it's like he knew

the funk soul custos (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

Like grimly, I'm surprised how much this got to me, is getting to me. Those comments under his last column are very moving. Never tried to emulate him, never met him, shared almost no music taste with him, yet his passing feels pretty fucking sad and empty today.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 25 June 2009 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

This is so incredibly sad. RIP. Fuck you, cancer.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:35 (sixteen years ago)

Was Steven Wells a prophet? His last commissioned words were "I blame it on the boogie."

James Mitchell, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

this has been a weird, weird day

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

saw only a little of him over here, but kicks the ass of post-Thriller MJ.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 26 June 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)

What a day!

Mark G, Friday, 26 June 2009 07:01 (sixteen years ago)

"I blame it on the Sunshine" really freaked me out just now.

Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Friday, 26 June 2009 09:10 (sixteen years ago)

Does anyone have a link to the original Swells article on his illness posted by Venga back in 2006?

Think I read it at the time and would like to read it again.

Humphrey Plugg, Friday, 26 June 2009 10:14 (sixteen years ago)

ta very much.

Humphrey Plugg, Friday, 26 June 2009 10:21 (sixteen years ago)

Uh, nobody's yet mentioned the utterly reality-boggling prescience of nebbesh? 6 years ahead of the curve, man...

― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Thursday, 25 June 2009

the RIP bit in the title was added yesterday, nebbesh didn't predict it! (if that's what you mean)

does anyone have a link to his phil collins interview?

NI, Friday, 26 June 2009 11:02 (sixteen years ago)

or a link to an interview he did with Sonic Youth in NME at the end of the 90s? At the time my naive self found that remarkable, since hostility towards the Smiths or Bis seemed sort of logical for him, but Sonic Youth not so much.

barnaby, Friday, 26 June 2009 11:28 (sixteen years ago)

I'd like to read that interview as well, since I heard about it at the time but missed the issue it was in

Colonel Poo, Friday, 26 June 2009 11:29 (sixteen years ago)

I don't remember it being much to get excited about either way rilly - it was while they were doing press for A Thousand Leaves which is one of their more 'adult' albums let's face it, and it was sort of autopilot 'lol u old, get out the way grandma' type railing

YOULL BE BAND FROM THE WEB FOR BEING OLD BITCHES!!!! (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 June 2009 11:50 (sixteen years ago)

He completely destroyed SY's Dirty in (I think) the first issue of BANG as well.

Chris in Belfast, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

R.I.P., by the way, obviously. I was never a fan of his style, but you have to admire someone who raged as hard as he did. And to die so young. Sad loss.

Chris in Belfast, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

R.I.P :-(

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 June 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

I'd heard he was ill the first time around but not about the relapse; am sitting here intermittently in tears and/or making sure people who knew and loved him have heard about this. One of the sites he wrote for has posted the obit headline SWELLS DIES, CAPS LOCK BUTTONS SIGH IN RELIEF. Which I'm sure he approved well before it needed to be used.

Suzy. We didn't check this with Swells before hand but I was in touch with him and he was writing for me up until very recently. He was my friend and an extremely valued colleague and insensitive or not I just wanted to write something that I thought might have made him chuckle. Our obit will be running on Monday, co-written by former colleagues from NME/IPC, BANG, Playlouder, Metal Hammer etc.

He was a genuine force of nature. RIP.

Doran, Saturday, 27 June 2009 09:58 (sixteen years ago)

Mr Doran, I did laugh my ass off when I read the headline! Looking forward to seeing what other ex-NME people say.

bad hijab (suzy), Saturday, 27 June 2009 12:48 (sixteen years ago)

Suzy: Stubbs, Mueller, John Robb etc

Doran, Monday, 29 June 2009 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

He once suggested, in pitch-perfect Barking vowels, that Billy Bragg should release an album called More Songs About How I Neffer Git To 'Ave Any Sex.

A legend for that alone.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 June 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

i have never read anything by him. after all these comments i got curious. what piece of writing should i start with? but please no music i don't give a shit about. like michael jackson for example.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 29 June 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

I'm in the middle of putting together a Swells reader for a week or so. I'll put a link here when it's done.

Doran, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

I assume the Mondays interview from 1992 would be a forlorn hope? Ach, I'd love to read that again.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Monday, 29 June 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

when i read swells in quietus i thought they were writing about swell. what a great band.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

I'll see what I can do. The ones I remember quite vividly are the Sonic Youth interview, the feature on Shed Seven, when he kept on turning the volume down on Rick Witter, the argument about beards on playlouder, the argument with Dom Passantino on the Quietus, the review of Daydream nation in BANG, the U2 feature in NME . . .

Doran, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

the review of Daydream nation in BANG

actually if you can recall the cover/issue number, i should have that in the archive so could scan it if interested.

mark e, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

Cheers. I'll look into it.

Doran, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

the feature on Shed Seven

Hang on, was this the "Rick Witter smells of piss" one? Again, I'd love to see that one more time ... if only because I think I destroyed my copy with tears of laughter before I got to the end.

the argument with Dom Passantino on the Quietus

:)

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Monday, 29 June 2009 22:19 (sixteen years ago)

That interview with Shed Seven made me laugh more than anything I can remember reading in the NME. The bit I remember was Rick Witter saying somet bollocks along the lines of "I'd like to spend some time as a woman, to feel was it was like to be penetrated" and Swells immediately firing back with "erm, you are of course aware you don't need to be a woman to do that?" Think Witter was lost for words.

I always think of him as a proto-Poptimist as much as a shouty punk rock guy - I remember him writing a singles column where he ripped the shit out of every jobbing mid-90s indie band in there and then heaped praise on En Vogue, going "oi The Warm Jets, THIS is what you should be doing".

He was also a genius at making unfashionable but very clever insights sound bludgeoningly stupid. Railing against what he saw as the inherent sexism and racism in the music industry, etc. RIP dude.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

"the review of Daydream nation in BANG"

Seconded - I've gotta read that

Soukesian, Monday, 29 June 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

I barely recall anything in Bang but I feel like (a) this was maybe in the first issue and (b) it was Dirty he gave a kicking?

Real Men Play On Words (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 June 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

I'm commissioned him to do it, and when I received his copy I felt like Jennifer Jason Leigh at the end of The Hitcher being pulled apart by opposing forces of mirth, guilt and incensed outrage that someone could say that aobut the Youth.

I think it was Dirty. I'll dig it out of the garage at the weekend.

Doran, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 11:31 (sixteen years ago)

oi The Warm Jets, THIS is what you should be doing

what a frightening thought (but point well taken and supported obv)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:30 (sixteen years ago)

Mr. Sinker on Mr. Wells

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:46 (sixteen years ago)

And a new memorial site:

http://www.thestevenwells.com/Main.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

The bit I remember was Rick Witter saying somet bollocks along the lines of "I'd like to spend some time as a woman, to feel was it was like to be penetrated" and Swells immediately firing back with "erm, you are of course aware you don't need to be a woman to do that?" Think Witter was lost for words.

This is exactly right!

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 23:44 (sixteen years ago)

Lesson: use the clarifying word "vaginally" as often as possible

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 00:02 (sixteen years ago)

This is vaginally right!

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

Mark G -- so va(G)in(ally)!!

(;)

t**t, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 13:09 (sixteen years ago)

Genius comment on the Guardian message board http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2009/jun/25/nme-writer-steven-wells-tribute-james-brown?commentid=65c914eb-fb46-44b6-99af-5ae721cc14af

Dear Stakeholders,

it is with regret that I, on behalf of IPC Media, announce the death of
a reputable one-time NME labourer, Steven Wells.

Human Resources at the NME tell me that he was hired by the NME in 1983.
I have also been informed that Mr. Well's labour contributed greatly
to the success of the NME brand in the decades wherein NME contracted his work.

In his position as opinion executive, he allowed NME to diversify its market position by offering greater quality written content solutions at cost, with humour as added value.

The NME share value increased several percentage points over his tenure as writer, and I speculate that this may partially have been attributable to the Unique Selling Point the NME cultivated in the delivering of his content solutions.

In retrospect, it is thought that IPC media made a sound investment decision when procuring his labour and ROI was high in this market period.

On behalf of all shareholders at IPC Media and the cross platform brand 'NME'
we express our gratitude for the dividends he secured at NME.

Yours,

Conor Mcnicholas

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 13:41 (sixteen years ago)

I'm in! (xpost)

ahem..

The NME tribute was just right.

Would have been nice to have had some of his writing there too, but probably right not to.

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

Swells having 'little true interest in music' is a hilarious notion!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 July 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

Please consider who wrote that; I thought it was a bit offensive myself.

going vogue (suzy), Thursday, 2 July 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

Actually I'm angered about that comment. Fuck him.

I am really glad I found this piece on Napalm Death (I first read it in the NME when it was originally posted as an ad I think, but I've lost the issue). Maybe the first time I had heard of John Zorn. I am sure there are one or two cuts in that piece from what I read in the ad but what is on there still reads as wonderfully.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 July 2009 22:00 (sixteen years ago)

Haha yeah it was a page feature taken out as a full page ad by whoever Napalm's label were at the time (late 90s IIRC) - can't have been that successful an idea given that no-one else ever did it but from a young reader's POV you glance over it and are like 'YEAH! How come there aren't more bands getting round the prospect of no editorial by doing this?'

Real Men Play On Words (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 July 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

Oh wow just now saw this! Matt DC nails everything correctly in post of 29 June 2233 UTC*... singles columns was indeed one place he shone (lol I'm sure I have several CD singles laboriously mailordered from the UK just because of him. Haha shit I even have that Gold Blade album!). Also, classical music = "men in powdered wigs sticking small unelectrified guitars under their necks and horned women screaming about dragons".

RIP you were great fun.

*) Actually he had some kind of proto-Poptimist good-guy bad-guy double-act with David Quantick didn't he?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:58 (sixteen years ago)

Haha shit I even have that Gold Blade album!

and that album is great!!!

I understand that the romantic interest route is very popular. (stevie), Thursday, 9 July 2009 07:17 (sixteen years ago)

Actually he had some kind of proto-Poptimist good-guy bad-guy double-act with David Quantick didn't he?

― anatol_merklich, Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:58 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

apparently, yeah.

el quant still wrote for the nme when i started reading it. (people underrate quantick coz his views on music as such aren't that interesting... less so than swells even. this is to miss the point.) i think they did some collab more recent than the 80s but have drawn a blank.

still haven't really gathered thoughts on this dreadful news.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 9 July 2009 07:23 (sixteen years ago)

some collab more recent than the 80s but have drawn a blank.

On The Hour, The Day Today

surm? lol (sic), Thursday, 9 July 2009 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

Lololololol

Matt DC, Friday, 10 July 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

I hadn't read that before but virtually every single line is funny.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 July 2009 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

I have dipped in and out of Tits-Out Teenage Terror Totty ever since I found it on a shelf at home after the memorial bouzer.

going vogue (suzy), Friday, 10 July 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

^ILX taken out of context

splashing out on some prospective meat (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 July 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

LOL. Am pretty sure Swells lived for random sentences like that. Wanted to get up at speeches part of drink and say ''no feminist was ever so happy discussing his own penis".

going vogue (suzy), Friday, 10 July 2009 15:20 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

Does anyone know if there is a link to his 1998 Sonic Youth interview? I have just been reading bits and pieces of Swells writing and from reports he did a very funny demo-job on them.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 18 November 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Always had a burning desire to read Tits Out Teenage Terror Totty, but if I only I could develop Johnny 5-rapid speed-reading skills

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Sunday, 18 November 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)


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