you can download an mp3 and watch a short quicktime at the site http://www.crammed.be/konono/
― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 16 May 2003 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 16 May 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)
(I imagine a scenario in which these guys become overnight commercial successes, invest in proper equipment, and immediately lose their appeal.)
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Saturday, 17 May 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)
isn't crammed the label that originally reissued "ere mela mela" by mahmoud ahmed sometime in the 80s? good on them.
― your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 17 May 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― People love Gravity and Ebullition! (ex machina), Thursday, 24 June 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 24 June 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago)
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― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 24 June 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago)
http://uk.onino.com/music/zaire_music_of_kinshasa_city.html
it definitely sounds like them to me.
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago)
Here's the word from Crammed Discs on the forthcoming Konono CD:--Hi Chris,
We heard from Louisa @ Six Degrees that you liked the Konono excerpt that's on our site, and that you were wondering about our release plans. We also noticed an enthusiastic comment about Konono on http://www.christopherporter.com/
Konono No. 1 is actually only one of many "electro-traditional" bands which Vincent Kenis recorded during several stays in Kinshasa. As explained in the presentation text on the site, Konono No. 1 are part of a whole movement of bands who moved from the bush to the suburbs of Kinshasa, and went on to amplify their instruments.
We're doing extensive work with several of these bands, and have already gathered many hours of recordings.
We will be releasing a Konono No. 1 album around November, and are also finalizing a "various artists" album, to be entitled "CONGO ELECTRICO (Buzz & Rumble from the Urban Jungle)", which will feature tracks by several bands. This should come out in early 2005, and will include tracks by Kasai Allstars, Kisansi Congo, Sobanza Mimanisa, Konono No. 1 and several others.
Meanwhile we are also releasing a 12" with two Konono No. 1 tracks, through a small UK label called Fat Cat, which generally deals with experimental & electronic music. It's interesting that many people in those areas seem to be very excited by these recordings, and we're working on getting remixes done by interesting European & US producers.
Please get back in touch if you want additional info.
All the best,MarcCrammed Discs and associated labels43 rue General Patton, 1050 Brussels, Belgiumphone (32 2) 640 79 14 - fax (32 2) 648 83 69http://www.crammed.be
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago)
Crammed Discs' website discusses it, but this is the release date I've found through google. Part of a new "Congotronics" series from Crammed. I can wait two weeks.
― stephen morris, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:34 (twenty years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:48 (twenty years ago)
― willem (willem), Monday, 18 October 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago)
― (Jon L), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:07 (twenty years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:57 (twenty years ago)
Hi Jason,thanks for the tip -- actually we're pretty keen on them already. in fact we're getting a live album in next week, and then the one you're talking about, the studio album, we'll have when it comes out in January. There's also a second studio album that's supposed to come out later in 2005.cheers,Allan/aQ
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago)
Konono No. 1"Ditshe Tshiekutala"Lubuaku (Terp, 2004)
Thanks to Mark from Subterranean Distribution in Amsterdam for giving me the heads up that Konono No. 1 finally has a CD out. It's not the one I wrote about on Sept. 2, but rather a live soundboard recording put out on Terp Records, which is run by Terrie from the Ex. I once wondered aloud if Konono was the Fennesz of the Congo? Now I just call them The Very Reverend Konono No. 1 because they deserve that honorific---there's nobody like them.
Mark also writes, "You might dig on a little video footage shot during Konono's tour with the Ex here in Holland. The clips are pretty short and arbitrary, but they capture a tiny bit of the Konono ass-shaking machine live."Clip oneClip twoClip three
The MP3 and videos are hosted on Subterranean's Web site, which is where you can buy Lubuaku.
Also, Crammed Discs is listing that Konono's studio-recorded Congotronics 1 is for sale now, but I'm not sure where to buy it in the U.S. because according to this list there seems to be no distro over here. But I'll put on my parachute pants and Sherlock Holmeslice hat and find out for y'all. Man, I'm just earnest like that, what can I say?
Meanwhile, Konono's home country continues to eff itself up with war.
― steve-k, Monday, 3 January 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)
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― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)
― dh, Thursday, 10 February 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
can't wait!
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)
― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Friday, 11 February 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)
I have only heard the mp3 samples and seen the video, and I think they're good, but the online excitement seems out of proportion (ugh, how common is that sentiment). I'd be particulary interested to hear someone talk them up who can compare them to other Congolese/West African recordings.
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)
― RS, Friday, 11 February 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
Ahh, I don't really believe that, given that you are posting and reading here. It would be boring if we all just agreed with each other all the time, right? Wondering why people get excited about things in onde direction or another is interesting, I think. Anyway, no problems, I hope.
personally i like distorted things, this includes things not usually heard with fuzz/distortion
That's what I was wondering about. I'm not criticizing that sentiment, just wondering if there's something else unique here that I was missing...
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
but in re: "online buzz" surrounding things in general, it seems hard to qualify/quantify this sort of thing.
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
i think that part of the attraction to konono no 1 comes from the honesty of their sound, and a kind of return to pre-synth african music where rawness and rhythm take precedence over superclean production values and digestability...this may be their primary distinguishing feature when compared against the last 30 years or so of musc from Congo/Zaire (rumba, soukous, etc).
The other critical thing about konono is seeing them live...it's that crusty old adage about "not being able to capture their live show" on CD...for one thing, it's 3 hours long. and for another, you're dancing the entire time, even if you "don't normally dance." indie-kid armfolders, 60-year old Ex fans, and everyone else in the place was sweating and booty-waggling until late. i'm sure it helped immeasurably that it was a rock club, certainly nothing like the museums that most "world music" gets performed in. and lastly, the sound. there's not a single thing about it that distances you from them...it's more like the magnets in their homemade pickups are so strong that you're drawn toward the stage. you can't imagine being in the room with them and not coming closer.
anyway...just wanted to give you a first-hand testimonial, and assure you that what buzz there is (if any) developed out of the best intentions: to expose more people to unique, passionate music.
― markemorse, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)
many of you probably already saw this, but christopher porter's blog reprinted a very lengthy letter from Vincent Kenis (one half of the wonderful band Aqsak Maboul) talking about how he came across the band, the logistics of producing the record, recording techniques etc.), I was almost expecting to see these as the liner notes but for now they're only here: http://www.christopherporter.com/2005/01/konono-no.html
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― stephen morris, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)
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― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
― ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)
Friday November 4, Consolidated Works, 8pmKonono #1 (Congotronics)Direct from the Congo, in their US premiere, something to behold: a twelve-piece combo playing driving township music with thumb pianos amped by car-batteries and salvaged parts, all embellished by busted hub-cap cymbals and found instruments.$22 general / $20 members & discount
more info at http://earshotjazz.org
SO FUCKING EXCITED
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 00:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 04:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:08 (nineteen years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:05 (nineteen years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.crammed.be/live/index.htm
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)
KONONO N°1 ^ 11/04 USA SEATTLE, WA EARSHOT JAZZ FESTIVAL 11/06 USA SAN FRANCISCO, CA SF JAZZ FESTIVAL 11/10 USA MINNEAPOLIS, MN CEDAR CULTURAL CENTRE 11/11 USA CHICAGO, IL LOGAN SQUARE AUDITORIUM 11/12 USA COLOMBUS, OH WEXNER CENTER FOR THE ARTS 11/13 USA DAYTON, OH BOLL THEATER 11/14 USA ANN ARBOR, MI THE ARK 11/15 USA PITTSBURGH, PA THE WARHOL MUSEUM 11/16 USA NEW YORK, NY JOE'S PUB 11/17 USA NEW YORK, NY S.O.B'S 11/18 USA SOMERVILLE, MA SOMERVILLE THEATER 11/20 USA PHILADELPHIA, PA WORLD LIVE CAFE
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Thursday, 15 September 2005 05:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Cristal Waters (nordicskilla), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)
― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:51 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 September 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.christopherporter.com/2005/10/congotronics-2-buzz-n-rumble-from-urb.html
― curmudgeon, Friday, 14 October 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago)
― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)
― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)
― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago)
― capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago)
― capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago)
(Apparently the 8pm is either sold out or near sold out, however a 10:30pm show was added... see here: http://www.earshotjazz.org/fest/artistinfo/kononocongo.html)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
Wait, what is this about Congotronics 2? Where can someone like ME get a copy of something like THAT?
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in Novosibirsk (ex machina), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)
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― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)
Wait, world cafe has no place for dancing?! I've never been there. What use is it then, for a lot of the things they have there? What if someone pretends to go into a trance and starts dancing anyway?
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)
If you want half price tix for Konono's show on Nov 10th at the Cedar Cultural Center...go to tctix.com ....they are only 14-something with the charges....it's 23 at the door.
I really wanna go buy my band is opening for Tristeza that nite
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)
Konono!
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)
-- strongo hulkington's ghost (wt...) (webmail), November 4th, 2005 8:29 PM. (dubplatestyle) (link)
totals. the apotheosis of middle-class taste.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 5 November 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago)
And, very luckily, Consolidated Works staged this in the room with the seating in the back, and a huge empty space for dancing in front by the stage. That space was pretty much filled up (and hey, the senior citizens/handicapped who were attending the Earshot jazz festival got seats up front too, so everybody won), and everyone was revelling everywhere.
If you find out that the place Konono is playing where you are is seats only, I highly encourage you to make and wear a t-shirt that says "I skullfucked Paul Simon at this venue" to that show, because to host Konono N*1 and NOT provide some space for dancing is just a travesty.
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 5 November 2005 06:18 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 5 November 2005 06:24 (nineteen years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 5 November 2005 12:38 (nineteen years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 5 November 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)
There were many kids at the show.. very young kids in fact. During a moment, the singer smiled and danced looking at a toddler trying to clap to the music, despite her not being able to quite walk yet. It was really an "awwwwwww" moment.
..which is to say.. don't expect this to be a LOUD show. Rhythmic? YES, ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY.
So, if you have kids and want to see this show with your kids & family, you absolutely should. I think the band encourages it. Though, the venue acoustics will differ from city to city of course, so bring earplugs just in case, but this is a very kid-friendly show. Thought it was worth the mention.
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 5 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 5 November 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago)
GREAT show. The drummer, playing a single snare and a makeshift three layered cymbal, was probably my favorite member, but everyone was amazing. Easily one of the two or three best shows I've seen in recent memory.
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Saturday, 5 November 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 00:59 (nineteen years ago)
At least I can go home and listen to the Fat Cat record.
Seriously, this just sounds so great. Sometimes it sucks living in Eugene, the town that is always skipped on the I5 corridor. I would have driven to Portland for this, but no luck.
― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 7 November 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago)
― ianinportland (ianinportland), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)
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― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)
Konono No. 1 cranks up the Congolese thumb pianoAaron Cohen
Mawangu Mingiedi just wanted to be heard. And, like everything else in the Congolese city of Kinshasa in central Africa, fulfilling even this simple desire was not easy. But the musician's ingenuity, tenacity, and a surprising series of events wound up taking him further than he ever imagined.
Ever since Mingiedi was 10 years old, he played a Congolese likembe, also called a "thumb piano." The likembe is a traditional instrument that Mingiedi first learned from his father more than 60 years ago. In the mid-1960s, he met some other likembe players and they formed the group that became Konono No. 1 -- and those metal keys never sounded the same.
Much of Konono's repertoire is based on the trance music of the Bazombo people. This sound features repeated chorus lines and frenzied percussion that can induce listeners to dance. Mingiedi's challenge was getting attention above the urban clamor in Kinshasa when his group played on the streets. So Konono hooked up their likembes to microphones and amplifiers that they built themselves out of abandoned car parts.
The wildly distorted, compelling results of this experiment in home-made electronics can be heard on "Congotronics" (Crammed Discs). When the CD was released last year, the music media in Europe and the United States were amazed that the essence of punk rock's noisy do-it-yourself aesthetic had been expressed so far away. Chicagoans can hear the band when Konono performs at the Logan Square Auditorium on Nov. 11.
"I thought that amplification would promote my group in the neighboring streets when we played in public," Mingiedi says through a Lingala-English translator. "I never thought it would carry my sound all the way to Europe and the United States."
While Konono is just beginning to reach an audience over here, Mingiedi says they've had a reputation in Congo for a while. The group's name--which means "stiff"--comes from a line in its popular song, "Lufuala Ndonga," that retells an ancient proverb about avoiding rigor mortis. After Mingiedi's nephews started their own group -- also called Konono -- audiences gave his band the primary number. He also mentions that some notable Congolese soukous musicians, such as Ray Lema, picked up on Konono's influence.
In the early 1980s, a Belgian music fan named Vincent Kenis heard a Konono tape that found its way to French radio. After his initial amazement, he began searching for the group, a journey that involved a sequence of visits to the Congo before Kenis was finally able to locate them, 20 years later.
By that time, Kenis had become a record producer and had the means to accurately document Konono's performances. He realized that instead of bringing the group into a slick, sophisticated studio, the music should be recorded in Kinshasa in a situation that was as close to home as possible.
"It's much better to get a situation where everything is working--socially, dynamically, and somehow try to manage," Kenis says. "That gives me the liberty to modulate a bit and put it in perspective. The distortion is really a part of their sound and there's no use in taking it away."
Kenis and other European-based African music experts knew an open-minded rock audience would appreciate Konono's unique use of electricity. So the group was presented with musicians who had similar inclinations, even if they happen to live on different continents.
When Konono first visited Europe about three years ago, they went on the road with the iconic Dutch punk-rock band the Ex. Even with the language and cultural differences, the groups bonded. Ex guitarist Terrie (just the single name) had visited the Congo in the past and believes that Konono's constructing musical instruments from scraps can be understood as a means of reflecting and transcending the nation's ongoing chaos.
Still, Terrie says he wasn't prepared for Konono's volume.
"It's really incredible," Terrie says. "They were using our amplifiers, which they were playing twice as loud as we did. And for them, this was completely normal."
As the two groups toured the Netherlands, Terrie noticed that Mingiedi watched the Ex closely each night.
"After the sixth gig, we came back and he was sitting in our van," Terrie says. "He was singing all our songs and then said, `Ah, now I know about traditional Dutch folk music!'"
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)
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― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.cantstopwontstop.com/blog/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon (Steve K), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)
apparently, it was unbelieveable...opened with like a 40 minute song...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon (Steve K), Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:43 (nineteen years ago)
D.C. for free next Tuesday...
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago)
Actually witnessing the reunited Meters on stage the next night blew my mind a bit more though :-)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 06:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
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― TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Vornado, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― (plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)
-- Vornado (joh...) (webmail), November 16th, 2005 5:33 PM. (link)
Yeah, Starbucks are the worst. They offer their employees healthcare unlike all those more authentic independent coffee shops.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago)
3 if you count the Barnes and Noble's!
― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)
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― do knut (donut), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)
11/17/05 Thursday@Gavin Brown Project SpaceW15th St. bet. 9th and 10th (next to Passerby)6-8pm *Free!*Eye solo (Hisham) performance*Followed by GATAX, Hisham and Eye performing as a duo
― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago)
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― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)
TRG, as the expert on Starbucks I can tell you there's one three blocks south on Spring & Varick
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)
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― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)
― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago)
KONONO ARE TOO BOUTIQUE IN THEIR DANCE TASTES!
― SHYMON RENAWLZ (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)
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― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)
― ZHAIMIN RHEENOWLS (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago)
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― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)
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― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)
― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)
― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago)
"Doucement! Doucement! Doucement! Danser! Danser! Danser!"
[Guy rubs money on his head and clambers for more US dollars -- which he gets!]
"Thank you veddy much, Americano!"
You had to practically have your head on stage to get the psychedelic tinny phasing effects that make the recordings so enchanting. They did bring their own awesome sound system -- a pair of big army surplus (M*A*S*H-style) loudspeakers with "Mega" painted inside the cones.
Emotionally, the band seemed shell-shocked, punctuated by moments of beaming happiness. They seemed to have no problem carrying on long arguments while playing 20-minute songs. Of course, a lot of the facial gestures and body language were alien to me. A scowl could just as easily be a sign of sincerity, know what i'm saying?
I was really into "Papa," the 4'5" tank of a man pounding on tuned welded metal bells like he was chopping goatmeat. Old coot. Even the young dudes in the band would laugh when he came busting through.
As a percussion orchestra, they weren't entirely different than Ilê Aiyê (who came to SOBs two months ago), but the hipster quotient was off the charts. Swans, nnck, wfmu, illbient stragglers, mr t haircuts, you name it.
Also, a loopy cowgirl offered me a sandwich, which I thought was really charming.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)
So many weird things about that set. It was action-packed. I was really pissed at the guy who passed up a dollar bill, because the optics seemed all wrong. Rude or something. Needless to say, the frontman didn't have the same reaction. In fact, he pretty much gave up being a singer for a long stretch to collect money from people. It got to be where it was rude not to pass something up.
Of course, he also got into an argument with the others, I presumed exactly because he'd stopped doing his job, but maybe it's the other way around.
The young guy got bored and left.
It seemed like at one point they were negotiating with their sound guy or soemone to keep playing. I thought they had lost the argument, because the drummers got into what seemed like grand finale-style moves (which was awesome--those two guys were awesome). The hand drummer even lost one of the bandages on his fingers he came down so hard.
But then it just kept going, drifting quite a bit. The crowd got tired too, I think. (Well, I got tired.)
I also thought the likembes were a little low in the mix, but I had assumed that was because I was right next to the drummer.
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)
I wasn't there for the money passing set, which does seem strange - tacky.
― TRG (TRG), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)
But what I want to know is, how was the Eye/Hisham performance?
― Gunderson10, Friday, 18 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)
― TRG (TRG), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago)
But to address the point head on, what happens between the band with an audience in Kinshasa isn't quite the same thing as what happens with the same band and a New York audience. Obviously. And I've already said my first comments read a little harsh--ultimately it was fun, the rapport with the audience was great, everyone was unself-consciously and un-ironically enjoying the groove--but even so what harm is there observing that without proper context, a group of rich white beardy hipsters tossing cash at some poor Africans on stage could look a tiny bit tacky?
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago)
Here's a rant I ranted somewhere else earlier today:
Konono gussied up their show for America. No homemade amps. No homemade mics. The menacing air-siren-styled speakers on stage were not hooked up to anything—-they didn’t even have wires! They using an octave pedal ferchrissakes!
Essentially, the only reason Konono No. 1 gets to play in America is because they have a cool gimmick. No talks about what they actually sound like. Hell, what do they sound like? It’s not Afro-Cuban enough to be soukous, there’s not enough guitars to be chimurenga and too many mbiras to be juju. My boss says they’re just Congolese street music with a history in trance, but that ain’t gonna get people to buy $12 appletinis at Joe’s Pub.
No, Konono No. 1 boasts hipster cachet because they built their own equipment out of car parts. Accordingly, the crowd was mostly from the white nerd constituency—-all transfixed by band who didn’t bring their ingeniously re-gutted amps, the same amps that glitch out their sound into fuzzy bursts, making them kin-in-timbre to the Boredoms and Amps For Christ. I feel kind of duped that such a “must-see” event show was essentially just a damn good African dance band—the same kind that play here all the time, but I somehow never make it out to. The same ones that the hipsters dismiss as fodder for the socks-and-sandals NPR crowd who doodle kokopellis on the back of their stock portfolios.
I feel like a real schmuck because I haven’t made it out to an African dance show since Oliver Mtukudzi in Prospect Park last year. I’ve seen like five Growing shows in that time! Mtukudzi’s band was livelier and rowdier than Konono… and there were actual African people in the audience!
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago)
Cute meta discussion!
― Jdubz (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)
I have to admit, it was a very "Wait till I tell ILX!" moment.
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)
I actually see some good points in your post, only as far as other African groups being underrated... but that's it.
I've heard the rest of this argument template re: white hipsters going gaga over lucky "token" non-white group therefore group is overrated and their fans don't know anything else about other similar underrated groups therefore making the experience a disappointment even though the band have nothing to do with what their fans do and don't know anyway, blah blah blah
― do knut (donut), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)
Forkclove sums up my initial reaction to the money bit - that's the first thing that came to mind.
― TRG (TRG), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)
I talked to a couple of guys who flew to the Seattle show from NYC for the Earshot festival, mainly to see Konono, and they were excited mainly because -- somehow -- they thought the band would become tired as the tour progressed, so they wanted to see the very FIRST show... which seemed really odd to me at the time.. but hearing these stories now, they're slightly prophetic, though I stress "slightly"
― do knut (donut), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)
Other highlight: when the singer/whistler casually picked up the bells and murdered them.
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)
haha, I was standing with Eye before the show and I thought it was pretty funny that I had heard Konono first as compared to V&infin&redoms and I got to see him hear them.
Then I thought of this:
What's the most "losing my edge"-like accomplishment you can boast?
― Jdubz (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago)
It was the equivalent of Ralf Hutter turning to the audience and smiling slightly and awkwardly after Kraftwerk played.. which, of course, is the equivalent of Pete Townshend smashing his guitar onto his amplifier knocking it down, and cutting himself severely with the wooden fragments of his former axe, storming off stage in a rage.
― do knut (donut), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)
These have become my favorite bands.
Some drunk girl standing next to me got so depressed about the money thing that she had to leave. They play in little cafes in the Congo, of course they're used to getting tips!
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago)
I was surrounded by just dancing ex-dirthippies-now-cum-antique-store-and-candle-wax-store-owners (including myself, sorta, as far as the dirthippie part goes.)
(ok, maybe i'm generalizing a bit too much there.)
― do knut (donut), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)
I know that the pile of money had at least $200
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Jdubz (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)
Konono's DC show is gonna be at the Kennedy Center. I doubt they printed up any postcards or flyers and left them at African music stores or restaurants in DC, so the crowd here may be mostly like the NY ones described above. But as I mentioned upthread I think, when I saw Congolese rumba star Koffi Olimide at the U of Maryland, just outside DC several years ago, the crowd was largely African. Whether that audience would be interested in Konono I do not know.
I have seen Africans pasting dollars on the sweaty foreheads of Nigerians and Malians and Senegalese and others at DC shows for years. But not too many white folks doing it.
But I am still wondering about this:
"Konono gussied up their show for America. No homemade amps. No homemade mics. The menacing air-siren-styled speakers on stage were not hooked up to anything—-they didn’t even have wires! They using an octave pedal ferchrissakes! ...all transfixed by band who didn’t bring their ingeniously re-gutted amps, the same amps that glitch out their sound into fuzzy bursts..." -Whiney G. Weingarten
― curmudgeon, Friday, 18 November 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)
― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Occam's Reznor (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)
I meant they were more in tune with our idea of a "professional" sound system. Using real amplifers and stuff like any professional touring band.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Occam's Reznor (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)
i'll have beers with you anytime! we live in the same borough ffs.
― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)
What, there's no car parts in America?
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon, Friday, 18 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)
COME TO DADDY'S TONIGHT. NOISE DUDES BE DRINKING.
― Occam's Reznor (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)
I admit the show I saw didn't sound as "gritty" as the releases, but that's not the main reason I enjoy their music.. (different strokes, different folks, etc.)
― do knut (donut), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago)
maybe. i'll see how i'm feeling in a little while (fuck a sinus infucktion). you should come out for my birthday drinks though, in TWO WEEKS.
― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Occam's Reznor (ex machina), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:15 (nineteen years ago)
It sounded good, even though the acoustics of the space render almost anything sterile. It's an aural autoclave!
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)
― ZR (teenagequiet), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)
Jess Harvell said upthread that he's coming from Baltimore for the show, and I bet Konono fan Christopher Porter, from the Suburbs Are Killing Us blog and Jazztimes mag, will be there. Plus as I mentioned earlier, the usual assortment of tourists and senior citizens visiting the Kennedy Center to get some 'culture.'
― curmudgeon (Steve K), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)
― ZR (teenagequiet), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago)
Was anybody else at the Pub show?
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)
I am pretty sure that the Kennedy Center will be showing the Konono No. 1 Tuesday November 22 6 p.m. Eastern time free Milennium Stage show live on their website, and then archiving it for later viewing.
http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/
― curmudgeon (Steve K), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:44 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon (Steve K), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 07:19 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago)
soooooooooooo me.
― petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago)
― ZR (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)
The band was great and v. charismatic. The NASCAR hats confused me.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago)
http://forum.resonancefm.com/viewtopic.php?t=1202
― Grapperjoozer, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)
I have black hair, a beard and black glasses and will be looking lonesome as I'll be on my own so any ILXors say hi. (Or email me beforehand.)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)
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