Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

Ludo

yes.

the ambient works are cool but, not that cool to become a classic. he should make an album full of super songs like windowlicker to become a classic. or songs like flim.

Ludo

The one problem is that a lot of people just buys his records and don't dig a for more records by other groups like autechre, Susumu Yokota and so on. For me he was definetely the beginning but not the end.

I mostly listen to psytrance/Goa, intelligent techno, jungle & ambient. IDM in general doesn't do it for me, it lacks emotion (at least positive ones).

So, classic, yeah.

You don't need to make a good album to be a classic (I'm not even sure you have to make a good single to be a classic) but Ritchie has certainly made some good albums. And what's this guff about Selected Ambient Works not being a proper album. Glen Campbell's 20 Golden Greats is a proper album, just because its a compilation does not weaken its claim.

Of course that make The Best Of Blur pretty much their best album...

POLYNOMIAL - C

This is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever. Also digiredoo and analogue bubblebath. Classic, groundbreaking music

I'm good too

Despite the rictus grin there's is a genuine warmth and humour to his music, though I'll admit that, like many Warp artists, the emotional communication is indirect, showing us how to feel, as opposed to telling us what to feel. But that's fine, it's not as if they're even trying to tell us a story. Concequently this kind of music has a greater resonance with me. But then what what distinguishes him from his contempories? Well, he's survived every micro-genre he invented, reacted to and re- developed his own back catalogue - he replied to ambient with Ambient Vol 2, Drill n Bass with the classical hybrids of Richard D. James, then stirred the already stagnant electronica scene with Windowlicker, which I'm sure could hold it's own in any ILM pop league. Still a genius, even with his head firmly up his own arse.

Did you know AFX has been corresponding with Beck for months about producing the Beck's album. It fell apart cause neither were prepared to record outside their own studio. I dunno, but that would have been fun.

but i'm glad the aphex/beck thing didn't happen. even aphex couldn't make beck good.

oh, and to answer the question, classic, obviously

The Parr comparison applies for sure, but not as explicitly as it does with BoC's "Concourse" and "M9" (but then how could it?).

Aphex is classic, of course. I actually used to see him as a model for making a virtue of geographical isolation as a means of artistically refining yourself, so it's appropriate that K-reg said that. I think "Richard D. James Album" is his best work, as well, whereas FWIW I think "Bryter Layter" is Drake's weakest.

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

!

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.

What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

http://www.richarddjames.com/

http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/b/banks/lg6.jpg

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

they broke up last year

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

they still suck though

of course there are some song exceptions

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

they suck with a few song exceptions

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9515/66photolz2.jpg

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

I heard they're reuniting for Coachella

have u guys heard the solo joint richard did before he joined aphex twin? really out-there stuff.

yeah, Kraftwerk was awesome

Shame he went all vaudeville post-Drukqs.

I heard Tricky is producing them next

I believe you mean Tricky are producing them next.

in america we refer to bands in the singular

cor!

you mean cor anglais, the band's next key instrument?

is that richard d james lookalike laetitia casta!!??

i think aphex definitely knows his craft, and i'll often do the laundry to his more relaxing stuff. anything too noisy ie. falling too deep into the realm of electronica noisy, i don't enjoy so much though

fav recording by Rick James is a bootleg of him live@Liquid Room in Tokyo.
and despite the soundquality, SanFran in 92.

Analords sounded like leftovers to me. Shouldn't he be working on a 'Gorillaz'-type side project by now?

u crzy dwg

Did RDJ just like retire and nobody noticed? Assuming both drukqs and Analord were leftovers of course. (sure sounded like leftovers to me. Wasn't the story that he found some songs laying around on his hard drive that he didn't give a shit about and just released them all as the drukqs album because he was desperate to get out of his contract with Warp?)

Been listening to SAW II like crazy for the past year or so. That album is so brilliantly good.

Isn't he behind The Tuss? First two-thirds of the album is great.

the 'hangable auto bulb' collection is a big headphones favourite.

'on' is amazing. 'surfing on sine waves' is 50% genius. perhaps he was a bad influence.

1st 2 posts = Old ILX at its iconoclastic best

yeah i don't dislike BoC but that shit's like "hey the smiths were okay but DAYUM you gotta check out GENE".

Xtal

Boy Girl

-Classic

That Drukgs effort was awful.

I used to love his DJ sets when i was into festivals back in the 60s. They agreed with my hating of people - spoiling the vibe

yours truly,

Ludo

Richard's 60s sets were fucking awesome tho. You haven't lived until you've heard the 35 minute Hammond version of "Blue Calx".

Chosen Lords soundin' better than ever yesterday. 'fenix funk 5' and 'reunion 2' hit soo hard.

I can't believe this is even being debated. One of the greatest electronic artists ever.

is that richard d james lookalike laetitia casta!!??
pretty sure it is, but i can't remember for sure anymore.

Ludo is a regular poster on De Subjectivisten!

Nerd bonerz question re 'Selected Ambient Works 85-92': is there anywhere one can find out when the specific tracks were written? I have half a feeling the answer is "the fucking sleeve", which I don't have to hand, and another half a feeling that Aphex has always made a big effort not to say

I LOVE DRUKQS+

my foot hurts, so i don't feel like getting up to get my cd. but there is no booklet in my copy. just a piece of paper with the cover on one side and blank on the other. did earlier pressings come with liner notes or something?

yours truly,

Ludo

haha! thank you. i needed that laugh this afternoon!

also, i like ludo's answer to the question he poses. is aphex twin classic or dud? no, i don't think so.

There's no mention of recording dates or anything like that. Actually, it's hard to even figure out the track titles by the packaging alone.

really?

i can see the track names fine on mine. i have the pias reissue. the back has the aphex logo rearranged to look like a smiling face, with the track names in a bold grey font.

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150539-1162907302.jpeg

i used the wrong code thingy.

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150539-1162907302.jpeg

oh, fiddlesticks.

best thread i ever started. :)

so what's going on with this band, did they break up?

Reformed as The Tuss with some Cornish women.

I still listening to the Polygon Window LP on a monthly basis.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZ0Ldfv4xyc

needs to get released.

best thread i ever started. :)

Ludo

-- Ludo, Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:25 AM (15 hours ago)

^fixed

V/VM Help Aphex Twins volumes 1 and 2 remain the best thing he's done since 1996.

by which I mean both V/VM, Richard D James and Jesus the Christ as well.

^fixed

:D

i was thinking 'bout it myself, why did i do that? i have no clue.

Ludo

just got chosen lords
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-cat-headphones-god.jpg

I was so underwhelmed by chosen lords, I have no idea why it was so received so well, and so unanimously so. Although I might very well be more into it today, in all fairness.

b/c it is gr8

I want to hear Karen Tregaskin's opinion.

Yes, I am quite interested as well.

the cun shines out of my behind

http://xltronic.com/nostalgia/aphextwin.nu/v4/visuals/rdj/rdj-09.jpg

Totally off topic, but has anyone else had the misfortune to stand next to a very odorous Luke Vibert? Dude smells so bad. I wonder if Mr. Twin smells as bad as Vibert. Now That's What I Call Funky!

you think that's bad you should check out what he tastes like

4 fans of analrods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6wKGtWJ4-o

xpost

ur not funny btw

Still think On EP is highlight of career. Warp version, of course.

i smoked a joint with vibert once but did not smell any foul odour

I love Vibert and have been called a dirty hippy myself many times before. My observation is in no way meant to diss Vibert. He's awesome. I still covet the early bits and pieces of his catalogue and have paid to see him live multiple times since the body odor incident.

love the GAK, and that one may be my favorite

Man, I dunno. It sure looks like it to me.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/qdobatwin.jpg

Hi, Richard.

Embarking on a "Best of Aphex Twin (Cornwall holiday version)" ...

What, see if you can hike from Portreath Harbour to Carn Marth?

"You've got so many machines, Richard"
"I 'aven't got that many..."

Turns out the talking on the "Mummy Mix" of Come To Daddy was actually his mum? If he's not lying his head off (and really, even if he is) <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

http://soundcloud.com/waphitxen/sets/aphex-twin-interview-live-1/

seems likely, she's on Drukqs as well so

aphex twin classics or drukqs?

Thing is, her accent on Drukqs sounds so different from the person speaking on the Mummy Mix (esp with the pitch shifting and all) sounds so different that I didn't recognise her.

some ppl sound quite different on the (answer)phone

has anything happened since one of the warp ppl said a new aphex twin album is in the works (last yr iirc?)

Not really, no. Vibert claimed to have heard some of the new tracks for the album, so there is ~something~ but who knows when anyone will pry it out of Richard's little mitts.

I'm going to squee about how cute and gentle and ever so slightly Cornish accented his voice sounds here, because if I'm going to be thrown off WATMM if I do any more fangirling.

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

I always knew he did 95% of his own singing, as well. like, people are always "who's the girl singing on some of the tracks on SAW85?" and it's just so patently obviously him, when you hear his speaking voice. So I'm glad that he says it's almost always him.

He was supposed to have a "tsunami"* of releases ready to go last year.

*Trying to remember if this was the phrase used, might have been something else.

Well, first it was that one album for Warp. Then in the Another Man interview, he said he had six albums, all ready to go. And then in an interview with a Spanish broadsheet, he started talking about how he had FIFTEEN albums, and it just started to sound like typical RDJ exaggeration and lies, you know? Especially since his excuse for why he hadn't released any of the albums was all "I waited to get divorced" so his family didn't get any of the money, followed by "my ex wife is robbing me" and other assorted "the divorce ate my homework" bullshit excuses which actually started to sound kinda pathetic but if I start to think too much about how shitty it is to talk that way about yr ex wife when you have kids, I'm going to start to feel distinctly un-squee and quite cross about him, which I really don't want to feel.

Why do I even know this gossipy shit? I wish I didn't, sometimes.

are you sure he was actually married?

anyway i'm glad you know this stuff because it saves me the ever-dispiriting biannual trawl thru aphex twin fansites in seach of granules of information

He was definitely married. I even knew his wife's name, that's how uber-damn-sad-fan I am.

Also, happy 40th birthday, hope you have a nice midlife crisis, Mr Twin.

</sad pathetic fangurl>

So, going on past results, someone needs to break in and steal copies (ropey ones, mind) of these 15 albums, then he might actually release them to his label or some such other.

I kinda feel like they *might* all be garbage

i have the same fear/feeling.

I don't. He's been playing some amazing unreleased stuff at his recent gigs, and if that's any indication, it'll be wonderful.

::continues to drift on in a giant bubble of heart-on::

So he's bringing that remote controlled orchestra of disco balls Reich thing to England. Finally.

I appear to have a ticket for it.

(Whether I actually go or not is another story. It wouldn't be the first time I bought a ticket to see him, then backed out, from job or fear or nerves or anxiety or just plain stupidity. I am telling myself he probably won't even be there. And it will be a seated gig therefore not too anxiety inducing.)

((I am super glad it is the Reich thing, and not the Penderecki thing.))

(((also.... EEEEEEEP! I have not been this squee-ish about a concert since I was a teenager.)))

Also, they have knocked down his house. It's so weird sitting on the Thameslink being able to stare down into what used to be his bank vault as the diggers fill it in. This makes me feel v v v crepey even if it's not my fault that Thameslink stops for 10 minutes just outside the Elephant every day.

I was watching "Heathers" for the first time in 20 years, and got this real sense of deja vu at parts of David Newman's score. Like, check this very SAWII-style clip, beginning around the :30 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpTbVbvD1M&feature=relmfu

Sounds like a cross between Goon Gumpas and one of the ones on the last quarter of SAWII, yeah, but that might just be the pizzicato strings.

So the Barbican thing is tonight. I should be feeling a lot more excited about this.

(I think mostly it's physical I've not been well and my ear has been giving me problems and it just doesn't seem fair that the first time I see Mr Twin I will only be able to *hear* half of it.)

Since I stopped reading the Phanboys I haven't really been able to keep up with what he's been up to lately. It's the remote orchestra thing so I don't know what to expect, or if indeed he will even be there, or conducting remotely from a bunker in Wales.

I still feel disappointed about not going to the Bangface thing in Cornwall but, y'know, Bangface. Bleurgh.

Help me get more excited. (Why am I asking this on ILM? Of course you won't.)

Eh, well, I didn't know about this.

I know what you mean about Bangface. I've never actually been but if it's anything like the Planet-µ night I attended several years ago now, there's an intense level of fawning geekery pervasive throughout the night, and not in a pleasant way. I don't really know what Aphex fans are like these days mind you.

As for the Barbican, I'm sure it'll be good once you're there, right?

That's not really what I meant about Bangface at all, but um whevs.

sometimes going in with low expectations is better than being all hyper? better to be surprised than let down. also

conducting a 28-piece string section and a 12-strong choir by remote control

ought to be a treat whoever's doing the conductoring

also i assume there's seats. i'm all about gigs where i can sit down.

Yes, there are seats. This is the A No.1 thing I am most happy about. If memory serves, it is actually a front row ticket. That might be awkward, so I'm glad he's conducting remotely.

Damnit, time was I'd have been all over a gig like this. I've seen Aphex silent DJing in the Barbican conservatory, Scanner on a Routemaster, all the Warp London parties. First thing I heard about this was someone on facebook last week saying it was sold out. So you should be excited, it's exciting! Aphex! The Barbican! Remote Orchestra! Whatever the hell that is!

maybe he'll be...sat amongst the crowd. DA DA DAAAAAAAAH

I would suggest going early to see the rain thing there but queues for it are prett crazy atm and probably everyone else will have had the same idea.

I was trying to get in the mood listening to SAWs on the bus. But it's not going to be SAWs, it's going to be something completely new and different and orchestral. So I should be excited about that aspect, that it will probably be completely unpredictable and unexpected, no matter what he is doing.

What is the rain thing? I have a couple of hours to kill but I hate queueing.

http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13723

TWO HOUR QUEUE TIMES?!?!?!?

I haven't got that much time to kill. Looks cool, tho.

But after experiencing Orcadian rainstorms last week I am not really keen to experience any more rain, art or no.

"I know what you mean about Bangface. I've never actually been but if it's anything like the Planet-µ night I attended several years ago now, there's an intense level of fawning geekery pervasive throughout the night, and not in a pleasant way. I don't really know what Aphex fans are like these days mind you."

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

^^^that is what I suspected about Bangface, so the combination of Bangface plus Newquay was just one of those... "um, just, no." moments for me.

I had fun at the club nights back in the day but (I think I posted this before somewhere) people's descriptions of previous Bangface festivals reminded me of what you read about, like, Deadheads in the 80s, after the good times had gone and it was just burnouts

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:08 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh well that's okay then. Rather a bunch of mental ravers dancing about than a room full of sweaty dorks crowing for obscure Wagon Christ B-sides.

Oh just fucking shut up.

you're not a very nice person, you know that?

Like, we get it, how over IDM you are.

I'm just really sick of how you feel the need to come on any thread and stomp all over anyone's possible joy or excitement over it. I get it, you're not into this any more. You're allowed to move on and leave it to other people. You don't have to ruin it for everyone else.

Oh god why the fuck am I even talking to Dog Latin?

If I'm feeling iffy about a gig or an artist, ILM is the worst possible place I could come. Why do I never learn this? Stupid me for not learning after 1000 times.

Um sorry but I don't think DL was doing any stomping at all, given that all he did was get the demographics of the Bangface crowd wrong.

Meantime, a little flashback to 1993:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgdYh7rgEmQ

jesus what happened up there ^^^^

british humour

woah just looked at two threads in one day featuring poster Ludo. weeeyerd.

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

Heard "Actium" on a big system yesterday. Sounded fantastic, was suprisingly danceable, and holy hell that's a lot of bass.

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

you sure can... so many memories for me too

I was at that Aphex Twin gig... i remember a load of the indie/rave kids being REALLY freaked out by all the noise stuff he was playing, and me and one other bloke (who happened to be wearing a Hafler Trio t-shirt) being really into it....

any takers? http://www.discogs.com/buy/Vinyl/Caustic-Window-Caustic-Window-LP/152379087

been taken down already

either that or someone has already bought it

says that the four ppl who own that are RDJ, Grant from Rephlex, Cylob and u-Ziq. it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most

seller write-up says it's the 5th copy

reading upthread, drukqs dismissed as "leftovers"... huh. is this still a perception held by people?

I seem to recall that yes, that was a commonly held perception at the time, but I'd agree people have largely given up that fight and given in to the album over the last 13 (!) years.

seller write-up says it's the 5th copy

that's funny, because 29 discogs users claim to own it

Huh, on wikipedia:

In an October 2010 interview with British magazine Another Man, James stated that he had completed 6 albums, one of which was a remake of the unreleased Melodies from Mars, originally produced around the time of Richard D. James Album.[25] In June 2011, he spoke to Spanish magazine EL PAIS. When asked about the 6 albums, he answered 'More than 10 or 11 are already compiled, and many more songs are orphans.' He also revealed that a new album 'will show in a while' and that the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife.

Ha, I didn't hear this one, either:

In November 1995, The Wire published an article titled "Advice to Clever Children". In the process of producing the interview, a package of tapes containing music from several artists, including Aphex Twin, was sent to Karlheinz Stockhausen.

Stockhausen commented:
I heard the piece Aphex Twin of Richard James (sic) carefully: I think it would be very helpful if he listens to my work "Song of the Youth", which is electronic music, and a young boy's voice singing with himself. Because he would then immediately stop with all these post-African repetitions, and he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms, and he would not allow to repeat any rhythm if it varied to some extent and if it did not have a direction in its sequence of variations.[42]

Aphex Twin, a fan of Stockhausen, responded:
"I thought he should listen to a couple of tracks of mine: "Digeridoo", then he'd stop making abstract, random patterns you can't dance to".[42]

the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife

Think he was determined to wait until there was no chance of her being able to claim a cut of revenue from releases, yeah

lol at the RDJ/Stockhausen exchange.

the nme gave drukqs 9/10 while most of the people who ought to have known better misunderstood it

it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:18

def cylob

that's funny, because 29 discogs users claim to own it

FLAC rips?

FLAC rips?

sounds like an RDJ title

when in his career has RDJ not claimed to have stacks of unreleased material ready to go?

Stacks of unreleased material generally means loads of crap that needs some quality control (an issue he's had through most of his career when he was actually releasing shit). I bet his 6 albums+ of stuff could probably be reduced down to 1 album and 3 EPs of awesomeness.

last two posts OTM. I never did get to know Analord in the end because the whole exercise felt a bit tl;dl

I would love it if he just released a concise 12-track album soon. It's been 18 years or something since RDJ Album.

Why would you want to edit down his albums though? They all "work" as albums and I take issue with the idea that there is lots of filler.

The point is, in the last decade+ he's had a habit of not releasing anything for ages and then spoodging out a huge glut of material in one go. It's not always gold either and even dedicated fans have trouble negotiating it. I still don't think Druqks works as an album, more like five different albums on shuffle. Analord has a few ace moments but I never could get up the patience to listen to all 10 releases to find them. I have to say I preferred it when he stuck to a singular style over the course of one LP (SAW/RDJ Album) or did a chocolate-box thing (Windowlicker/ICBYD) over the course of a shorter work. But these sprawling things like Druqks and Analord, I just find them a bit of a slog.

but octobeard was saying that ALL his records could do with that kind of editing, which is wrong IMO. Maybe Drukqs could do with this, though I think that's debatable. I admit to have never taken on Analords, perhaps for the reasons you alude to.

I wouldn't say ALL his records need trimming, if anything it's a shame that some iterations of SAWII had to have tracks cut from them. But yeah, RDJ started suffering from the same disease as Squarepusher after a while and seemed to be releasing stuff with little adherence to quality control. I liked his approach on the RDJ Album where he was going for extremely tight compositions with a strict 'no fannydangle' rule, meaning he could release an album of 10 3-4 minute tracks and get all his ideas in at once.

the analords are fantastic. i like hearing him do more process-based acid traxx about as much as his more thoroughly edited conventional album-oriented music.

Think I'd have preferred Analord if it had been a single-EP release or something in the vein of Analogue Bubblebath 3 under the AFX name (it's Aphex Twin, right?). I'm aware of the Chosen Lords comp, but from what I heard the track choices were somewhat arbitrary and skipped out a lot of good stuff.

I thought the Analord releases were great! I didn't find them a slog at all. The aesthetic is also totally unified and consistent, as opposed to Drukqs, where there are indeed at least three distinct styles lobbying for attention.

i like the grab bag tho

is "cohesiveness" necessarily a sign of "artistic integrity"?

Probably not, but it is conspicuous from an artist who seriously or not has claimed that he's just handed random DATs and whatnot to labels when pressed for material or remixes.

ICBYD is a grab bag and I love that. Feel like Druqks could have been released as maybe two shortish albums and an experimental EP.

I have a theory that 'cohesiveness' is a quality which has come to be more synonymous with artistic integrity since the end of the nineties.

think he shd release what he likes how he likes but i'm a feckless libertarian so

bbbut what about this notional idea of "cohesion"?????

Cohesiveness is almost by definition a good quality unless lack of cohesion is what you're after. And even then, I'm not sure how much I rate lack of cohesion as an attribute worth regularly pursuing. But something that's all over the place can still be "cohesive:" White Album, etc. So who knows. I just in the case of RDJ lack of cohesion can mostly be read as "jarring juxtapositions." But that can be cool too.

http://www.factmag.com/2014/04/01/material-from-aphex-twins-lost-selected-ambient-works-vol-3-surfaces-online-listen-here/

one of the few things i miss about Ye Olde Napstere 1.0 was d/ling loads of alleged Aphex tracks and pondering whether they were genuine and whether i cared

if u need architectonic integrity then the plaintive second analord ep of phonatacid / laricheared / pissed up in se1 / bwoon dub is as perfect a 25mins or so of music as anyone released in the last decade

one of the few things i miss about Ye Olde Napstere 1.0 was d/ling loads of alleged Aphex tracks and pondering whether they were genuine and whether i cared

― twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had a lot of success with one of my homemade rare Boards of Canada tracks back in 2000.

fact article : april 1st.

hmmm ??

Oh dear, didn't actually look at the date on that, was wondering why it hadn't been bigger news.

Ha.

Totally disappointed tho, would have been a great twist in the story.

the variety and sequence of tracks on Drukqs is one of its best attributes, imo. the disklavier songs, and the more ambient/incidental/noodly bits provide a necessary relief from the denser, hyper-detailed drum and bass stuff. the 'inconsistency' makes it more engaging than something like Exai, which gets tedious.

think the name of the track, 'avril 1st' kinda gives it away as well.

does sound plausible though ..

xpost : have now added the usa edition of afx analogue bubblebath (tvt records!) to the archive as i had forgotten i have it, and going to try and listen to drukqs all way through now.
never managed it before.

I somehow skimmed over the track name in favour of the fake dude's story itself.

Was he really carrying the only copies of certain tracks round on one MP3 player though? That sounds like bullshit in any case.

well, if its good enough for u2..

and those gadgets weren't cheap back then.

It was a DAT iirc but he's the biggest fibber of his generation. I guess you couldn't get away with some of the urban mythology he built up around himself now. Thanks Internet.

The analords are were all great! A return to form, imo.

Anybody heard this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyrex_Tape

this seems pretty like a pretty thorough rundown of all the rare/unreleased stuff: http://rareafx.wordpress.com

did RDJ have a departure from form?

yeah, I don't know about "return to form" but overall I think the analord stuff is probably his best work. It just takes some time to work your way through it.

not really, but i was let down by druqks and then with smojface it was like "i don't want this"

analords series is a joy. as the years go on i keep finding myself liking things by richard that i'd previously dismissed. saying that feel like the stars in the correct alignment for a new record this year :-p

I always assumed the Analord stuff was about buttlove, which tbh scared me away.

http://youtu.be/z72ie2nCxb4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbIvd80NAI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YyBp8ZyeE

He's inconsistent but Windowlicker alone is enough to call him classic.

in related news (not an April Fools' joke afaict):

http://pitchfork.com/news/54714-aphex-twin-unreleased-album-caustic-window-to-be-sold-digitally-on-kickstarter-physically-on-ebay/

revive was a discogs listing of that record. Two separate sales makes me suspicious, though maybe Cylob has decided to cash his chips

ah I see, it's a kickstarter thing. all sounds a bit dodgy to me.

Okay, yeah I didn't mean to say ALL his work could use editing, but there's few records that don't: SAW 85-92, ICBYD, HAB, RDJ, and CTD. The rest, including nearly every EP, and even SAW II, I feel could use some quality control. These releases seem to put tracks on display that are either outright attempts to troll their audience by taking the piss, or a classic case of RDJ lacking any person in power with the ability to tell him "dude, wtf.. we can't release this." To be fair, most of those same releases also exhibit at least one absolute classic. However, it helps to be wildly popular amongst kleptomaniac music fans and to own your own record label to enable these traits. Fuck, I can't blame the bloke.. if I were him I'd totally release an album full of sampled toilet flushes and nothing else just to see how many copies it'd sell

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/289889/intentional-fallacy

Of course I don't think he'd be considered the same way if he'd only ever released quality tunes. There was always a 'jellybean' effect to his output which meant you were forced to take the rough with the smooth and which in context made a track like Knieval parsable to the dedicated Aphex fan. My problem with Druqks was that it was more like a jar that promised 'every flavour' but was mostly made up of the same 2-3 flavours. I'll quite with the analogies now.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/watmmofficial/cat023-caustic-window-own-the-legendary-record-by?ref=card

caustic window kickstarter is blowin UP

Can you imagine what a complete collection of Boards of Canada's early Music70 LPs would fetch? Good lord

http://www.mixcloud.com/keyfumbler/

somebody culled a bunch of live sets.. some dope, Tuss-y workouts in the Metz and Minehead sets, makes one wish he'd release the newer stuff, as it's ultra high quality. see: "the metz track"

Metz, Paris is great but the key takeaway for me on that page is that Aphex has been playing a bunch of live shows over the last ten years and I've wasted my life.

after this thread was revived i spotted the double vinyl SAWII set on brown vinyl sitting unloved in a local shop.

however, seller wanted £95 for it.

i aint that keen.

the vinyls sounds like crap anyway.

I have the brown vinyl and can confirm it sounds crap. I always liked to try and convince myself that Aphex had intended it to be a dodgy pressing to add an extra layer of "ambient noise" and that it was, of course, far superior to the CD version...
...it's not, it's just a dodgy pressing.

Why is it that a lot of people who don't like dance music like Aphex Twin

If I tell someone who's into rock music that I like house and techno they'll quite often say 'oh I like Aphex Twin'

Probably because his brand of conceptualism goes against what is considered to be the norm in 'proper' house and techno. Also because his historic pranks, interviews and the way he markets himself are more in line with rock/pop traditions of identity whereas house and techno often strives to erase the author and let the music speak for itself without attachment to a personality.

idk I don't like house or techno but I like Aphex (and others) because they don't just go UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS for ten minutes

so you haven't actually heard any house or techno, got it.

I don't think most people think of Aphex Twin's music as dance music so I don't know why it would be weird to not like dance music but to like Aphex Twin

maybe not! but I will never let reality get in the way of dismissing entire sub-genres for arbitrary and/or inaccurate reasons

it's 2014, are these the best trolls we cd get?

what if they went ULTROS ULTROS ULTROS ULTROS for ten minutes

'Aphex Twin's Historic Pranks' would be a good intermittent Viz strip along the lines of Elton John's series of smalltime scams

Why is it that a lot of people who don't like dance music like Aphex Twin

Because Radiohead and Kanye.

Seriously, though, I was playing "Drukqs" a year or so ago, and someone I was with perked up at "Avril 14th" and recognized it as the song Kanye sampled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9GfEAaQUR4

Aphex Twins lustige Streiche

I like the UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS type of dance music, and I don't like Aphex (except for some early tracks, when he was still making UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS music), so I guess there's truth to this.

smelly unts

I misread that as "UNITS UNITS UNITS UNITS" and I thought, man, songs that are nothing but units, units, units, units are pretty much my favourite thing in the world, whether it's techno or dronerock or what.

Unts Unts Unts <---- going to use that for a song title

Because Radiohead and Kanye.

Seriously, though, I was playing "Drukqs" a year or so ago, and someone I was with perked up at "Avril 14th" and recognized it as the song Kanye sampled.

It was the case before Kid A or Drukqs though. His stuff often obeys some of the 'rules' of rock and works in a non club/dance context. This album cover explains it pretty well, really.

http://media.warp.net/images/WARPCD6.jpg

Also I don't think having an aversion to UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS is necessarily a rockist or luddite reaction. It's more like the guy who asked What's with that constant cymbal tapping in jazz drumming?. I can see where he's coming from sometimes - a few times I've been in Germany or Holland and the constant immersion in (usually pretty lousy) techno can start to grate.

Unts Unts Unts <---- going to use that for a song title

check the b-side on this 1998 single

BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and

Also I don't think having an aversion to UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS is necessarily a rockist or luddite reaction.

it's not even a reaction worth considering. "reaction" implies familiarity. it's tantamount to saying "i hate japanese films because they're all about samurai"

it's maybe surprising that ppl still lump house and techno together under the banner of "dumb dance music" using some spurious hierarchization of "depth" in music. it also has frankly homophobic undertones to me (house arose out of gay post-disco subculture, gay culture is vapid, consumerist, etc.)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/Sprad/XTAL_zpsdb12d2cc.jpg

xtal

i was just listening to delphium and thinking how great it would sound mixed into quadrant dub

"Crazy weekend. Need to put on something old and comforting."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGEQ9Hjr4c0

mostly just a lol old moment, that album will be able to vote come november

i always thought it was unce unce unce rather than unts tbh

i listened to the richard d james album just a couple of weeks ago and it sounded better than ever imo

that album will be able to vote come november

oof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk7Q7nYJpS8

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL05YPqhPmTtJUC0AWZAOJrhWJrjlCH11q

is it just me or does the vinyl rip not sound that great

(talking about the mp3s, not the YT)

this rules?

i listened to the richard d james album just a couple of weeks ago and it sounded better than ever imo

― macklin' rosie (crüt), Monday, June 16, 2014 8:01 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me too. Such a tight little record. The definition of getting things over and done with in as little time possible. Also, b/w Come To Daddy on the CD-R rip I was given by a mate when I was 16, very possibly the record that changed my life.

xp - wow this is actually ace. Could this be the first lost album living up to its own myth?

so this is actually happening, the lost Caustic Window record? When is it coming out?

So this is finally available for listening, and I don't have the bandwidth to even hear it?

Airflow is great!

think i like this one best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TISHfHDLtmc

yessssss

i can't believe the entire board isn't FREAKING OUT to this right now

http://www.stereogum.com/1687220/stream-aphex-twin-caustic-window/mp3s/album-stream/

http://www.stereogum.com/1687357/premature-evaluation-aphex-twin-caustic-window/franchises/premature-evaluation/

It became exceedingly clear to me during my initial listen of Caustic Window that there have been a large number of timeless Richard D. James productions collecting dust on the CAT023 test pressings all of this time. “Fingertrips” is a queasy, 808-fueled gem that would’ve reigned over the underground rave scene had it been released in the ’90s. “Mumbly” and “Fingry” ride the same kind of neon-hued wavelength, but take that warehouse-ready vibe further into the dark with shadowy dancefloor beats, incandescent synth pads, and the sense of unbridled experimentation that has fueled RDJ’s entire illustrious career. Perhaps the biggest surprise, however, is “101 Rainbows (Ambient Mix),” a wispy and beatless synth composition that ushers out the final quarter of Caustic Window. Almost nine minutes long, the piece plays like a Steve Reich or Philip Glass classic, folding together tapestries of weightless arpeggiations and weaving gossamer flute sounds through the synthetic patchwork. It’s impossible to say which of Caustic Window’s tracks will eventually outlive the excitement and media frenzy around their release—though, if I had to put my money on it, I’d say “101 Rainbows (Ambient Mix)” is the strongest contender. But regardless of past, present, or future accolades, lingering questions, and potential volumes of unreleased music, the fact of the matter is that we now have a brand-new and sizable chunk of Richard D. James’ recorded work readily available for us to hear. It may be released under the name Caustic Window, but many of these tracks are pure Aphex Twin magic that would’ve been an integral part of his collective legacy had they appeared in 1996. As such, it’s sort of unbelievable that we actually have these songs at our fingertips now, and we should cherish Caustic Window like the unearthed treasure it rightfully is.

YSI FLAC PLZ

i can't believe the entire board isn't FREAKING OUT to this right now

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM! ***squee!!!****

no this is terrible, it means Luke V and Mike P have been telling the truth all these years about top-notch work just sitting around unreleased

there's more and he's not sharing, let's just go in and TAKE IT

oh i guess that's what the tank is for hmm

101 rainbows oh my god

He's like a Picasso of electronic music, except he keeps 80% of his music to himself. UGH... Perhaps his DATs will be raided once he croaks.

now obsessed with aphex twin

sorry, where are all these being held or are they youtube only?

it's the one they had that kickstarter campaign for:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/watmmofficial/cat023-caustic-window-own-the-legendary-record-by

i guess one of the backers put it on youtube.

don't really know the whole story but at this point why doesn't Warp or whoever just release this and get it over with?

baitin

Caustic Window - G1 - 101 Rainbows (Ambient Mix)

:O

"An ambient track. This was a reject from SAW85-92 and is unspeakably lovely. A monophonic synth weaves around soft flutes to devastating effect. The synth filter opens & closes to emphasise the riff at certain times, & the flute goes freestyle towards the end. Metallic percussion invades the song at times complementing the groovy momentum gathered by the main riff."

Caustic Window - C2 - Squidge In The Fridge is also really great.

Hm. I wasn't too interested in this "lost" record, but it's excellent. Interesting how good it all sounds after so long.

There's a good quality zip - well, enough for these ears at least - out there if you G00gle it.

i can't believe the entire board isn't FREAKING OUT to this right now

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know what you mean, I can get a bit offended sometimes when the Roland Kayn thread goes more than a few days without someone waking it up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSGT8flLYgI#t=49

I'm glad this is out there but it's weird no one's talking about the ethical aspects of its release. I got into an argument with a Pitchfork writer on Twitter who was criticizing RDJ for "forcing" fans to pay thousands of dollars for this instead of, I guess, putting it out for free or normal purchase when it became clear that it was going to be made available anyways. Which I think is a weird criticism, given that he didn't want this to come out in the first place and couldn't really be said to be "forcing" anyone to do anything.

It's also difficult to untangle fact and fiction as usual...

yeah, I STILL can't shake the feeling that this is some elaborate hoax

the record is good in any case

really dig 'fingertips', SAW 85-92 caliber track imo

yeah, how can we verify this is really RDJ and not a hoax? (haven't had a chance to listen to any tracks yet btw).

And when the fuck is he releasing new material?

two more test pressings of unreleased albums have appeared on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNRELEASED-APHEX-TWIN-VINYL-TEST-PRESSING-MELODIES-FROM-MARS-CAT-087-LP-AFX-/291171368296?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item43cb2a7d68
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNRELEASED-APHEX-TWIN-VINYL-TEST-PRESSING-ANALOGUE-BUBBLEBATH-5-CAT-034-LP-AFX-/291171360722?

it's not a hoax

Oh so YOU'VE been RDJ all this time.

fuuuck xxp

Still waiting for that HDD that he left on the plane...

it's not a hoax

yeah, I don't have any legitimate doubts, it's just a very strange way for a record to be released. more like a funny feeling I can't shake compounded by the whole 'RDJ constantly making stuff up for ~20 years' thing

xp lol

same seller as the $20k caustic window lp. wonder if the same deal will be struck?

My first impression was that this is actually a brand new record released in the most obtuse way he could think of. I mean it's probably not true but it's amusing to think about.

1. flutey a1
2. stomper 101mod detunekk a2
3. mumbly b1
4. popeye b2
5. fingertrips b3
6. revpok b4
7. afx tribal kik b5
8. airflow c1
9. squidge in the fridge c2
10. fingry c3
11. jazzphase c4
12. 101 rainbows ambient mix g1
13. phlaps g2
14. cunt g3
15. phone pranks g4, 5

would also be great if someone just read the interview with the mu-ziq guy, deliberately created music similar to what paradinas described, and that's what everyone is currently freaking out over. super improbable but RDJ gets my conspiracy theory pseudo logic going.

xp

he should have called the album phlaps

fred phlaps

A couple of those Caustic Window tracks have been released before, no? I have "Cunt" on a comp I bought in 1994, and the version on that Youtube playlist is the same one (and it still sounds as awful as it did 20 years ago). I guess the rest of the tracks could still be fake, though...

There's a number of drum parts, synth settings and melodic styles that are absolute classic RDJ trademarks circa 1990-1994 on this. Also the two comp tracks. If these are fake, then this whole board is fake; each thread produced by some form of music nerd AI. Nothing to see here.

a couple of the tracks have been released before, no?

yeah, i believe two of them came out in the 90s on compilations.

I guess the rest of the tracks could still be fake, though...

nope

two more test pressings of unreleased albums have appeared on ebay.

OMG

i really hope these make it to the 'net

Yeah, I have no doubts about this being genuine either.

does it make any difference if fake or real?

i really hope these make it to the 'net

Melodies was on CD and online for years already.

So was AB5, no?

Melodies was on CD and online for years already.

i always assumed that bootleg going around was a fake

i hope not, because i've been listening to it (and analogue bubblebath 5) for the past 10 years!

This isn't the first time he's been accused of being in on a hoax. It reminds me of the Black Devil Disco Club reissue from a few years ago. This writer seems convinced it actually was a hoax and seems kind of angry about it on this review for the follow up album. http://www.allmusic.com/album/28-after-mw0000573787

I'm thinking it was actually wise not to release this in 1994 because it really does sound super similar to a lot of stuff he was doing at the time. Though releasing under Caustic Window probably would have alleviated a lot of that

how have I never heard of Black Devil Disco Club before???

Ugh that Black Devil review is so obnoxious. What a wanker. It's a great album!

Some of us were listening to Black Devil Disco Club well before Rephlex reissued it.

But we also thought there was no way it was from the 70s either.

It was.

Oh yeah the Black Devil Disco Club album is fantastic as is 28 After. I always wondered how many people had actually heard it before the 2004 reissue. I certainly hadn't heard it before then.

I'm thinking it was actually wise not to release this in 1994 because it really does sound super similar to a lot of stuff he was doing at the time. Though releasing under Caustic Window probably would have alleviated a lot of that

Too much of a good thing? The change of moniker wouldn't really combat that anyway, but isn't it also possible that it's just really original great music? Despite being massive influential, I can't think of many artists who entirely replicate this kind of early 90s RDJ sound...

the phone pranks track gave me an unexpected nostalgia rush.

http://www.nme.com/news/aphex-twin--2/79205

Blimp decorated in Aphex Twin logo appears over London

It'll turn out to be a countdown now. Next year we'll see 2013!

aw it's kind of adorable how aphex fans respond to these campaigns

a blimp, haha! that is so richard! crazy motherfucker *shakes head, chuckles*

"logo apparently appears outside of New York's Radio City Music Hall"

http://pitchfork.com/news/56339-an-aphex-twin-is-blimp-flying-over-london/

its probably just a campaign for the official release of the caustic window lp

nah, it probably isn't is it

drukqs reissue

with added bonus track of like a clock ticking for 80 seconds

Can someone just break into his house already and steal his DATs and hard drives?

Was the conspiracy theory that he was actually behind Burial's music ever discussed?

no idea why anybody would take that idea seriously

Because it's hilarious.

10-19-2014

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhbbh

Pretty sure he is triangulating with the blimps and that on that date he will send a copy of his new album to every wireless device on earth.

where did that date come from?

Graffiti sprayed on a hill in Derbyshire.

(I wish I were kidding.)

The date thing is a hoax. "Probably".

http://www.factmag.com/2014/08/16/an-aphex-twin-blimp-is-flying-over-london/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvQSjJ4CAAEJJlb.jpg

walked past this on Saturday. it was tethered to a white van which was parked next to a craft beer festival which cost £35 to enter

~Hackney~

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/181497606212

Aphex Twin jerk sauce logo plate 2014 amazing rare miracle

won't be truly funny till it sells for thousands. Commit to a bit, internet!

Does it include the plate?

omg i forgot that happened in macross plus, thanks josh

The real reason all these logos/etc are popping up today: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RICHARD!

http://syro2eznzea2xbpi.com/

ha

http://i.imgur.com/gRRgbXP.png

!

have no idea if that is legit

it's legit. it detected several of my installed plugins

lol at what happens if you scroll way down to the bottom

ha tracklisting names, and timings were all zeros when i visited.

suspect its a clever bot thing, and my blocking s/w stopped the site from functioning properly.

you can only see the tracklisting via torbrowser and the link http://syro2eznzea2xbpi.onion!

lol at what happens if you scroll way down to the bottom

st1ff b0nars

Can't wait to not be able to dance to this.

Here's the screenshots of the .onion page:

http://i1.minus.com/ibdfhNRnlsexlN.png

Track listing with BPM (I assume):
minipops 67 (source field mix) - 120.2
XMAS_EVET10 (thanaton 3 mix) - 120
produk 29 - 101
4 bit 9d api+e+6 - 126.26
180db_ - 130
CIRCLONT6A (syrobonkus mix) - 141.98
fz psuedotimestretch+e+3 - 138.85
CIRCLONT14 (shrymoming mix) - 152.97
syro u473t8+e (piezoluminescence mix) - 141.83
PAPAT4 (pineal mix) - 155
s950tx16wasr10 (earth portal mix) - 163.97
airsatsana - 102

Those are some really weird track names even for him.

s950tx16wasr10 (earth portal mix) - 163.97

psyched to hear this one in footwork mixes

syrobonkus

really thought this was called Spyro all day

http://www.spyrohints.com/images/0-spyro-pose-1.gif

I get the feeling the names are derived from whatever arbitrary filenames he comes up with while working on tracks

pretty fucking hyped here

and mentioned this in the guardians of the galaxy thread but i swear that there are clear aphex symbols on computer readouts in the background on the Knowhere planet

so, if that 19th october date is accurate, ilx has 2 months to pre-cover this shizzle.

No. Nooooooo trust me you do not wanna get into that world of pain. Currently already getting too much grief off fanboys on twitter.

I get the feeling the names are derived from whatever arbitrary filenames he comes up with while working on tracks

― example (crüt)

Far as I know, deep web addresses get assigned randomly, so the album might be called SYRO simply because the address he got started with syro. and he though it was a cool name for it.

This is the sort of significance I could extract from quick search for the song titles:

CIRCL could stand for Computer Incident Response Center Luxembourg.
U473 is a Unicode character. It’s also a type of Nazi German U-boat.
Minipops are little pixel dudes.
180db is where death of hearing tissue begins.
Produk is Hindi for product.
Aisatsana is Anastasia spelled backwards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minipops

Oh, somehow I got this instead:

http://flipflopflyin.com/thingstobuy/minipopscover_new.gif

Has there been an Aphex Twin minipop art? number 67? otherwise then it's probably referencing the show.

IZ-US
Nannou
Nanou 2
airsatsana

let me guess

xps perhaps more appropriate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korg_Mini_Pops

People trying to decipher pointless IDM track names, is it the 90s again?

Nannou was like 2 wives ago! Do keep up. Anastasria must be the new Russian girlfriend.

if you make a lot of electronic music you get tired of trying to think of descriptive/interesting/funny titles and usually they seem overly didactic so you end up w/ kremblax22_v3

feel like those are descriptive/interesting/funny titles, just for songs made on a computer by a computer user, analog to "Morning Song" for the song you wrote on your guitar in the morning about the morning.

well, yeah.

http://www.circlon.com/images/9circlon.png
^
CIRCLON
U473 = Ѳ

Or http://www.sequentix.com/cirklon.htm

so, if that 19th october date is accurate, ilx has 2 months to pre-cover this shizzle.

― koogs, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:45 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No. Nooooooo trust me you do not wanna get into that world of pain. Currently already getting too much grief off fanboys on twitter.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:47 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was gonna say... You think there was a backlash when the Lulu set got 'done'... Mmmmmmmm.

s950tx16wasr10 - S950 / TX16W / ASR10 are all samplers.

fz pseudotimestretch+e+3 - FZ = Casio samplers (wot don't do proper timestretch so maybe that means start point modulation or something)

Functional working titles / gear references.

well, yeah.

― clouds, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 3:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

hey, we're on the same side!

Minipops was the name of a vintage korg drum machine.

Well looking at these posts it seems that the tracklisting is actually not that weird but comprised of the gear he used to make these tracks:

Minipops Korg
API 2500 is a compressor
Casio FZ synth
Sequentix Cirklon sequencer
Akai s950
Ensoniq ASR-10
Yamaha TX16W

Looking at that gear this might sound similar to his Analord series?

bummer

^^

You philistines

dud

lol

Whenever one of the most celebrated and influential electronic fartist, Richard D. James can compete with the music flip to influence built. The better part of a decagon, James Polygon Window, Caustic Window, GAK and maintain, including `Aphex Twin has unreleased music under several thousand monikers great pace.

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Phex Twinnipicks material is still unquenched thirst.

Syria, September 23, 2014, along with records of Aphex Twin's new album to be released. For the owner of Triple vinyl, CD and digital formats will be available. Bleep a very limited vinyl version you can register your interest in buying.

http://media.warp.net/images/Aphex_Twin_Syro_WARPCD247-Packshot-with-sticker_480.jpg

Triple, whoa

1. that press release is amazing.
2. there are only 200 copies of the limited edition box set thing (https://bleep.com/syro-limited-edition), and it's $400 if you win the lottery and have the chance to purchase it.

video director Crease Cunningham

track lengths: (https://bleep.com/release/53848)

1 minipops 67 [120.2][source field mix] 4:47 Aphex Twin
2 XMAS_EVET10 [120][thanaton3 mix] 10:31 Aphex Twin
3 produk 29 [101] 5:03 Aphex Twin
4 4 bit 9d api+e+6 [126.26] 4:28 Aphex Twin
5 180db_ [130] 3:11 Aphex Twin
6 CIRCLONT6A [141.98][syrobonkus mix] 6:00 Aphex Twin
7 fz pseudotimestretch+e+3 [138.85] 0:58 Aphex Twin
8 CIRCLONT14 [152.97][shrymoming mix] 7:21 Aphex Twin
9 syro u473t8+e [141.98][piezoluminescence mix] 6:32 Aphex Twin
10 PAPAT4 [155][pineal mix] 4:18 Aphex Twin
11 s950tx16wasr10 [163.97][earth portal mix] 6:01 Aphex Twin
12 aisatsana [102] 5:21 Aphex Twin

around 65 minutes in length, looks like

i have a theory about the prices listed on the album cover but i'm going to have to do 5 minutes worth of adding and dividing via excel before i can offer any cold hard proof

nm

;_;

where's the cost of the blimp??

He already had that, it's his normal means of transportation since the tank got towed.

strictly speaking it's a moored balloon, not a blimp

just want to keep this discourse factual

someone needs to poll the press release, it's gotten me laughing really quite hard

claiming this btw

"influential electronic fartist" is the best 3-word description of RDJ I've heard

it's a sin to appropriate such highprofile content actually

they could sell way more than 200 super special box sets

c'mon richard

"Due to the labour-intensive hand-crafted print process, this edition is strictly limited to 200 copies."

Each limited box set includes a sealed jar that contains air particulates from the smelting of 1/200th of the world's last remaining ores in a giant, limited edition bonfire created just for your box set.

Nyns eus Cornwallo yn England, Dogluthior. :-P

holding out real glee until i can hear just a snippet

they could sell way more than 200 super special box sets

at $400?

def

If there are only 200, they could have charged way more then $400. But I guess $80,000 up front goes a long way to paying the alimony, huh.

Expect at least 50 of those boxes on ebay in the weeks after having been sent out, fetching double or even triple the cost price.

That press release..

Way back when, I wrote a Jesus & Mary Chain article for Record Collector magazine.'While editing/revising the final version (which unbeknownst to me was a waste of time as the mag had already readied a previous draft for publication with some mistakes left in and a bunch of new ones added but never mind time to close the bracket) I ran it through a thesaurus, and went through replacing random words (e.g. "The Jesus plus Mary Manacle" by Frank Cement)

Anyway, the point being: it reads a lot like that press release.

Reads like it was run through translation twice. Plus some jokes.

several angry professionals bandying it about online; i think they missed the joke

Xpost yeah, more than likely.

NA has got the ball rolling on this, BTW:

ILX pre-covers Aphex Twin "SYRO"

I'm pretty sure he passed the real press release into chinese or something in Google translator and back into English and decided it was more awesome that way.

uhh it's pretty obviously composed tbh

maybe translate helped

regret these posts immensely

yeah the google translate thing was my first impression but a lot of this is clearly meant to be funny

I think Dan got it right. He translated it back and forth and then added some jokes.

In June 2014, Wes Borland of Limp Bizkit stated "Cliffs" off of Selected Ambient Works II is the song he would listen to for the rest of his life - if he had to pick one.[61]

nice cardiacs ref in that press release

this is a little strange, having spent however many hours playing the analord eps and the 90s shit over the last years, since i have scarcely thought about the author of all of that sublime music, so it's almost like being reaquainted with him and his mischievous yokel humour via the usual pr breadcrumb trail

he resembles a slightly more rustic andré villas-boas these days

http://www.mtv.com/crop-images/2013/08/15/aphex_twin.jpg

That's a very old picture. He shaved his head in 2008, maybe 2007? He is back to looking more like himself again recently:

http://38.media.tumblr.com/07e5bcde99548244157bdd20e97ce2de/tumblr_nar38xhJJV1rjw8sqo1_400.jpg

I listened to the Caustic Window LP for the first time yesterday and kind of instantly loved it, it was so familiar, so comfortingly weird, which obviously wouldn't have been the effect had it actually been released at the time. 'Squidge In The Fridge' is glorious.

not so into that one, Jazzphase is the one from that record that i play

Aphex Twin is really nice in interviews. Apparently.

http://www.thefader.com/2014/08/25/aphex-twin-syro-interview-excerpts?&_suid=140897978232205487933855038136

spotted on my commute this am

http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10607925_944036628956879_1511072352_n.jpg

I'm not sure I can deal with a world where Aphex Twin does promotional press and even Pitchfork interviews like a normal artist with a record out, instead of disinformation and counter-claims and fake stuff leaked over the web...

http://pitchfork.com/news/56459-aphex-twin-speaks-on-his-new-album-being-sampled-by-kanye-more/

re: Caustic Window

I've got thousands more like that at home. I should release all that stuff as well.

I don't think Mr Twin realises that the sheer obscurity/inaccessibility of the stuff was a huge part of why that kickstarter blew up so big. :-/

he is just too much

"features unintelligible voices" <3

Maybe I should just ban myself from posting to this thread or even reading his interviews until the record is out because I am so used to viewing Richard D James as a puzzle to be solved or an arcane mystery to be pieced together that I just can't handle seeing him as a product to be marketed.

aphex and marketing, imagine

wish he'd do a SAW III instead of all this noisy stuff.

I know last week I was complaining about all the game-playing but compared to the whole "interviews with P4k" thing I'm not so sure. :-/

he's leaving his son's bandcamp page a mystery for us to sort out, at least

Is this his first interview or

Well, I remember interviews from a long time ago.

Maybe it's the only way to throw off the concrete cast of those fans that think they know him and his music better than he does.

(And that does not include anyone that has posted here, before anyone misunderstands )

he's done maybe 2 or 3 interviews in the past 10 years, and those he has done have been mostly by email. It's just weird seeing him do 2 big conversation interviews so close together.

On Kanye sampling Drukqs’ “Avril 14th” on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy’s “Blame Game”: “Is it a sample? I actually don't know what it ended up being in the end, I'm so slack. I know that he tried to fucking rip me off and claim that he'd written it, and they tried to get away with not paying. I was really helpful, and when they first sent it to me, I was like, ‘Oh, I can re-do that for you, if you like,’ because they'd sampled it really badly and time-stretched it and there was loads of artifacts. I was like, ‘I'll just replay it for you at that speed if you want.’ And they totally didn't even say ‘hello’ or ‘thanks,’ they just replied with, ‘It's not yours, it's ours, and we're not even asking you any more.’” [laughs]

this is awesome

Yeah.

Personally, that's what I want more of.

Your mileage, as ever...

right I mean outside of those Analord releases and Rushup Edge he's been kind of a non-presence these last 13 years, I don't mind him talking - those few interviews he's done have been great

Yeah it's pretty weird, all this niceness after reading stuff like 'I hate the public' for years. Unless ... unless he has been replaced and all these interviews are with a stand-in a la Kaufman

Maybe I should just ban myself from posting to this thread or even reading his interviews until the record is out because I am so used to viewing Richard D James as a puzzle to be solved or an arcane mystery to be pieced together that I just can't handle seeing him as a product to be marketed.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, August 25, 2014 7:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can sympathise with this as it's similar to how I felt when BoC released Campfire Headphase.

Yeah it's pretty weird, all this niceness after reading stuff like 'I hate the public' for years.

Yeah this pretty much gets to the nub of my weirdness.

"Stay away! Stay away! Oh wait, I've got an album out, come'ere."

I remember seeing ppl complain about Chris Morris doing "straight" interviews for Nathan Barley and Four Lions, after a whole career of just fucking with ppl. Didn't ruin anything for me but I get it I guess

It's not even about "straight interviews" vs "just fucking with people" it's more about a decade of "I hate the public, fuck the public, I'm not talking to the public, I can't be arsed with the public, fuck interviews, fuck the public - OOH I'VE GOT A NEW RECORD OUT - here is a massive, friendly, chatty interview with Pitchfork."

It's not even that I dislike the latter, it's just kind of a shock after so long of the former.

if it's any consolation, it's hard to imagine RDJ being pushed into doing promo. i wd assume he's doing it cos he wants to but then there's that thing you said about alimony so hmmmm

Also, people (and the world at large) change. It might be interesting to see whether he's still as up for 'pranks' and scatological humour as before or whether the last decade has given him an alternative perspective on his public persona.

dude, the press release

yeah fair enough.

new material for his fannies and his enthusiasm has not diminished hope

Wish this was the real LP cover https://twitter.com/jessfishlock/status/504765161572696065

New announcement:

Aphex Twin
Syro International Listening Events

This is the information

Beginning next Friday, over the course of several days there will be one off events internationally where fans will be able to hear Aphex Twin’s first new record in 13 year in its entirety before the release on September 23. RSVP ticket lottery begins on Sunday, August 31 at 4amPST/7amEST/12pmGMT/1pmCET and closes Tuesday, September 2 at midnight in each time zone.


These are the cities where they are happening

London, UK
New York City, US
Los Angeles, US
Chicago, US
Toronto, CA
Paris, FR
Brussels, BE
Utrecht, NL


This is where you out find more about rsvping for specific listenings:
http://smarturl.it/syro-listening

best thing about this album (other than the music as i cannot comment on that) is that this is the largest profile release that tDR have been involved with for a long time.

hopefully it helps push ian into restarting tDR properly.

Really hope the London event takes place in a club or somewhere else with an amazing soundsystem rather than the shitty record shop where it will probably occur.

It'll probably be in a Claus Olssen branch.

This is getting too weird, on a "fandoms colliding" kinda tip.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwX2G-fIQAI68WQ.jpg

(It helps if you know whose shoes you are gazing at)

probably

http://33.media.tumblr.com/e03394291b8667a491410f454444823c/tumblr_nb4kabeCsl1qb2yn5o1_1280.jpg

dud

this is the first time ive seen deems say anything about music other than 90s rock bands you like, 90s rock bands who betrayed you, or irish folk music

not my fault you skip john prine or Kris Kristofferson threads son

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM9ToD0FTj4

this is still my jam

american singer songwriters with scots irish folk fixations dont fall very far from those trees

distance from a tree is no metric of satisfactory listening I ever found myself lusting after but come I've said my piece as far as this thread goes

Ordered on CD, am stoked.

Special edition is quite ornate:
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2014/september/syro-aphex-twin

Guess it's somewhat expected for the quid you're extracting for it

Love this. Also it only occurred to me after a talking with my partner last night that the sole intention behind releasing those track titles, BPMs and run times was to encourage loads of bootlegs and rub obsessive fans up the wrong way. Same as this deluxe edition and the Caustic Window album - this is good music, but it's not worth £200-£46,000.

New interview: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/aphex-twin-on-new-syro-lp-im-feeling-really-horny-about-it-and-very-smug-20140903#ixzz3CH2dlUjr

Yeah, I've got this brand spanking new Swedish digital-analog hybrid drum machine-sampler-synthesizer. It's fucking good. Pretty much everything I do has to be somehow related to making music – when I came up to London to do press, I thought, "Oh, I can go on the train and make some music on the way up." But then on the train, I didn't have any power sockets to plug anything into, so that didn't work out so good. I'm going to make sure that they have sockets in the one on the way back.

Since when did Richard become so adorable? This interview is quite open and earnest (it would seem). Also, did he just buy an OP-1? Sounds like it from his description.

I thought it might have been that new Elektron drum machine, but that sounds plausible

He still lies his head off. Basically contradicted a ton of stuff he said in other interviews over the past couple of years. (Then again, given those were supposed to be email interviews, it's entirely possible they weren't him?)

He sounds pretty happy, which is good.

> Skrillex has called Aphex Twin's 1997 track "Flim" his "fav song of all time."

skrillex has just gone up in my estimation. first he invents dubstep*, now this

(*jokes)

http://i.imgur.com/qA5P4gn.png

Skrillex has called Aphex Twin's 1997 track "Flim" his "fav song of all time."

lol if this becomes standard in the first paragraph of Aphex articles

"fav"

favour fav

How many kids do you have?
Two boys, eight and six. They make music, both of them. I don't know if you've ever heard of an artist called Mark Fell – it's avant-garde techno, not danceable. Someone said [my son's music] sounds like a cross between that and Holly Herndon, who's another experimental electronic artist. That's really accurate, actually. He was five when he did it.

lol, so proud

also mark fell is gr8 and his sensate focus tracks are totally danceable

indeed

https://soundcloud.com/editionsmego/sensate-focus-y-focus-1

GOT INVITED TO THE LISTENING PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

wtg diamonddave85

Oooh, a track just popped up on Bleep if you've preordered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUAJ8KLGqis

Right, I must not listen to that.

Go onnn. you know you want to.

mark fell rulez xps

My prediction upthread that this might sound like the Analord series seems true, then?

I get Windowlicker Lite from this track at least

sounds good 2 me

The processed vocals sound super super-Tuss like, to me.

it's good!

kewl track

it's ok.

dud

the ilx progression

it's an aphex twin track.

^^^

when posting track opinions please also post your opinion of ICBYD so I know if I can discount yours, thanks

shapedworld707 59 minutes ago
i wish i could lick my own ball listening to this

A good opinion of ICBYD makes my opinion valid or invalid? I rate it between 3.5/4 stars out of five.

you can live

i wasn't that bothered about him releasing new material but if it's going to generate opinions i'm on board

he just.......................................... cared because you do xp

I'm not going to listen to any of these tracks until I get the LP I guess.

xp I'm interested in Lukas's opinion about "...I care" though because I've only just rediscovered after years and years of it being sat in a cupboard festering and being ignored. It sounds so, so great in the last two days I've heard it again. Almost like the Aphex I'd dreamed of hearing after SAWII. erm, yeah. I know.

it is very richard h. kirk : lovely melodic bouncy bleeps, layered/cut up/processed vocals

subsequently, i really like it.

still likes electro, breaks, philip glass

but now he's old and the context is different so ymmv

Hi,

Just in case it was not clear, I am avoiding listening to that track, as I am the ILXor that's doing a track of that name for the pre-cover project.

Regards,

Mark.

k, thanks. was waiting for you to weigh in

http://www.discogs.com/Corneliu-Cezar-Ziua-Fără-Sfârșit/release/966371

ICBYD is possibly my favourite Twin album.

The new track makes me think of other Warp artists, especially Plaid.

if you like spoilers... http://thequietus.com/articles/16166-aphex-twin-syro-review

I'm interested in Lukas's opinion about "...I care"

Yeah, I love it. I discovered electronic music when I picked up some sampler that was 1/2 ICBYD + 1/2 of Black Dog's Spanners. So I'm probably not totally rational about that album.

I can go inside my little Cray supercomputer in the day, and people don't even know I'm in the room. You can kind of hide away in there. My wife will be calling me, "Rich!" My wife is next to me smiling as I'm saying that. She knows my secret.

so the divorce thing was b.s. huh

Heard for the first time on Radio 1’s Zane Lower night, can now listen to the album track minipops 67 (120.2) (source field mix). This is the first dong fore 13 years between the publication of the first a formal music.

lol it's like someone who can't speak english well, so funny

The new track makes me think of other Warp artists, especially Plaid

ouch

lol remember plone

or jimi tenor

allow jimi tenor, haven't listened to plone in a while

Plone were great! So were Plaid (although I'm so-so on their more recent output). Never really got my head around Jimi unfortunately.

I can go inside my little Cray supercomputer in the day, and people don't even know I'm in the room. You can kind of hide away in there. My wife will be calling me, "Rich!" My wife is next to me smiling as I'm saying that. She knows my secret.

So one minute he's making beats on the train using nothing but decaying copies of Reason; next he's got a ginormous NASA system in his front room that's big enough to house a man. LOL Rich, you so funny.

Seems like UK ppl're way fascinated w a public persona I've never rly bnoticed tbh

the cray(1) is tiny though - they have one in the science museum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray-1#mediaviewer/File:Cray-1-UIUC_CAC.jpg

they have built-in seats - can use them as furniture.

that said, the phone in your pocket probably outperforms one today.

Maybe he meant cray-cray, like, I've got this totally cray computer.

Well, he is consistent, in that he is at least still a compulsive liar. He's always just made up bonkers shit on the spot in interviews. Seems like his wife has become the new focus of his lying, like his parents used to be. (The number of stories I'd read him telling about his parents - everything from "they're acid-heads from a mental hospital!" to "I killed them and ate my mum")

The Cray supercomputer is probably a lot like the tank story. (He did not own a tank; but he did an armoured car.) He may well own some room-sized ancient bit of processing kit.

His lying, buffoonish,trickster persona has *always* been a huge part of his schtick, TBH. Even back in the olden days, the idea of this Cornish, ginger, trickster wizard character was always presented as a counter to "faceless techno" or whatever.

Yeah see I've been listening to him since I ws like 15 and never, ever thought that stuff meant anything outside of maybe "oh geez I HAVE to do an interview, so". I just really loved his records and tbh I'm p sure everyone else I've ever known that liked his music thought the same. Why do interviews etc matter?

Speaking as a colonial btw

why does anything matter?

sorry, that was facetious but unless we're going to talk about specific pitches or rhythm templates or whatever, then what else is there to discuss? A big part of the Aphex/RDJ 'thing' is the way he built up a mythos around himself in a time when techno producers generally hid behind their equipment. It looks like he's continuing to do so now. The difference today is that people are a lot more receptive to bullshit, because internet, photoshop etc, so now it seems he's doing it by coming across as genuine as possible but still slipping in massive lies about himself.

Shouldn't there be a dedicated thread for the new album?

I say let's do it when it comes out.

That's OK cos I ws being p facetious myself. I just kinda suspect that mythos you talk abt didn't exist outside of the UK as anything but a tiny sideline to his actual records, whereas it seems to've dominated how he ws perceived there

I think it varies from fan to fan. When I ran an IDM-based online community in the late-90s/early-00s I spoke to a lot of Twin fans in both the UK And the US, and the perception of RDJ and how his fans treated his persona was felt pretty much equally. I'd dare say it was the US fans who were slightly more caught up in the mythos because to them the idea of an electronic maniac from Cornwall was much more exotic than the British perception of a jaded ex-raver who'd moved to London and got lucky doing mobile phone adverts. But yeah, what matters to some doesn't matter at all to others.

Yeah, maybe I just got lucky. I basically just thought he ws some anonymous guy who made SAW2 (which is a kinda mythosmaking thing in itself) and everything else came v much second

Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s, and another thread for everyone else to just discuss the new album, interviews, etc.

why are you always so rude with me Bran?

> Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s

would bookmark

I think discussion of aphex twin's previous form & reception is fair game for the aphex twin classic or dud thread tbh

Some of this dude's albums are classics

Or maybe just the one

Dog Latin etc talking abt techno in the 90s beats the fuck out of Branwell talking abt Aphex interviews, tbf

we're talking about the same things, really.

Aphex is very, very good but I don't really think he is the pre-eminent musical genius of 90s dance music. Still, the press built him up into that role because visibly having a personality and being good in interviews really, really worked for him. The NME in particular lapped that shit up.

The discourse around him is still way less annoying than the culture of reverence around Villalobos, the equivalent 00s figure.

I never realised Villalobos had a big personality cult?

He didn't but his music was so good it got made up for him (goes for RDJ and VILLALOBOS)

Ppl like to have a singular figure they can be into

ILM in a nutshell here, really:

I say something like "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes STFU Branwell.

Doggie Latin and Matt DC come along to say "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes OMG BRAVO WHAT AN AMAZING POINT WELL PUT.

It doesn't matter what I say on ILM because never mind, A Man will be along in ten minutes to say exactly the same thing, then everyone will applaud.

woooo doggie

Who said STFU? Who is 'everyone'? As far as my own intentions were concerned I was tacitly agreeing with your post until you told me to get lost and find my own thread.

I'm not sure why you read such an act of ~hostility~ from suggesting that a thread might be split in two, as it follows two distinct strands. Are you sure you're not projecting?

A mere suggestion that you bang on in a different thread

For my part I did note that dog Latin was essentially making the exact same really obvious & oft-stated point as you which is why it was so delightfully odd that you would take exception to his posts

xpost

Hate to mansplain this to you, Brannywannydoo-dah, but if you can't figure out why one might read a certain hostility in this post...

Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s, and another thread for everyone else to just discuss the new album, interviews, etc.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, September 5, 2014 11:00 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...not to mention every other time you've told me, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off out of this thread over the years, then I can't answer your question. As far as I know I have never spoken to you in this way and if I have then I apologise, but I have a feeling that's never going to be good enough. Good day to you.

It's quite a challop to suggest that Dog Latin of all posters benefits from an automatically bestowed aura of respect.

Wow.

Can we have a thread about the new Aphex Twin album now, please?

Anticipating SYRO the new (2014) album by Aphex Twin

tbh I think "dog latin banging on about 90's IDM" is just as valid for this thread as "I wish he didn't do interviews like this" or w/e

DOG LATIN

well this thread certainly got http://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cray-cx1-with-nvidia1.jpg

jaded ex-raver who'd moved to London and got lucky doing mobile phone adverts

haha i had no idea! is this how a lot of people heard his stuff for the first time? which tracks?

To Cure A Weakling Child was used quite prominently in an Orange mobile advert around 1997. I don't think it's the way most people discovered him (obv SAWII and several other releases came before) but that half of the Come To Daddy EP used the Orange mobile branding on the cover so it might have been an 'in' for some.

http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/cometodaddy_cd2_right.gif

In that Rolling Stone piece he says he 'came up to London to do press,' but then he says he lives in Scotland. Kinda makes you wonder.

it does?

He also stated he came by train. In UK usage, railway lines almost always go "up" to London. It's not a geographical direction, it's a "towards city centre" terminology when people say they are going "up" London.

Ah! I've learned a lot here.

This is apparently the last track on the album. Ridiculously gorgeous performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHsT8kEyzs

It's quite a challop to suggest that Dog Latin of all posters benefits from an automatically bestowed aura of respect.

Indeed, he's often the ilx whipping boy... (re-posted from the worst music writing thread..)

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr277/kadield/KickDog.gif

I live in Glasgow and travel to London by train and always say 'I'm Going Down South' or 'Down to London', I've never heard anyone traveling from Glasgow to London by train say they are "going up" to London

i wd always travel down to London as it is closer to hell than the North is

xp I guess old Cornish habits die hard

at about the same latitude as London, I have not come to any conclusion about whether London is up or down, except that I might get the train down to London and the bus up to London, because those are more euphonious pairings

actually I think it's the other way round

don't mind me

as a desperate attempt to be on topic, I quite liked that first track, but if it is the best track on the album then I'm not 100% sold yet (who am I kidding, I'll probably preorder)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_directions

In British practice, railway directions are usually described as up and down, with up being towards a major location. This convention is applied not only to the trains and the tracks, but also to items of lineside equipment and to areas near a track. Since British trains run on the left, the up side of a line is on the left when proceeding in the up direction. The names originate from the early railways, where trains would run up the hills to the mines, and down to the ports.

On most of the network, up is the direction towards London. In most of Scotland, with the exception of the West and East Coast Main Lines, up is towards Edinburgh. The Valley Lines network around Cardiff has its own peculiar usage, relating to the original meaning of travelling up and down the valley. On the former Midland Railway up was towards Derby. Mileposts normally increase in the down direction

Individual tracks will have their own names, such as Up Main or Down Loop. Trains running towards London are normally referred to as Up trains, and those away from London as Down. Hence the Down Night Riviera runs to Penzance and the Up Flying Scotsman to Kings Cross.

I mean, it's entirely possible that Richard's reference is more that Cornish habit of calling everything on the other side of the Tamar "Up Country", but technically and officially, "up" is towards London. (And after discussion on twitter, it emerges that in Ireland, all trains going towards Dublin are "up", regardless of geographical direction.)

Derail

A bit like RAM, the track-by-track reviews from the listening parties have got me super excited. Fingers crossed.