― Sommermute (Wintermute), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)
A triple-CD of Schnitzler remixes by the cream of the electronicunderground was supposed to materialize a couple of yearsago, but is still unreleased, afaik. Hrvatski's mail ordersite, Mimaroglumusic Sales, Forced Exposure, and Other Music may have many of these titles.
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Of the first round of solo color-themed records, I've only heard 'rot' and 'blau', long form meltdown. Sidelong livemixed drone & sequencer soundscapes. Great to mix with, as the textures are very unique, but not what I throw on for intact home listening too often. Though I hear 'Gelb' from 1981 is great.
yeah I've heard good things about 'live action 77', have to check that out!
The Art Gallery CDs reissue some cassette concerts. Shorter textural pieces, I guess excerpted from longer improvisations. 'Blue Glow' is great. 'Control' and 'Convex' are okay. I don't like the piano solo stuff.
'Con 3' was his pop record for Sky. He sings on it. Not uniformly compelling, but the last track on side 1 is a personal favorite, it just makes no sense. There was also a disco 12" on RCA Germany in the early 80's which I would pay a great deal of money for. It's primitive technopop, straight ahead lyrics, but... wrong. It all just sounds wrong. And therefore interesting, though probably not to that many people.
― jl, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― geeg, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)
i have rot and i like it lots. so i want to know which of the forthcoming reissues (schwarz/blau/grun/gelb) i should be picking up. just based on what i've read i lean towards schwarz and blau but there's practically no useful information about the guy on the web and no one on soulseek is kicking down the schnitzler.
― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Thursday, 23 March 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Russell (Russell), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Conrad+Schnitzler
― Pharmaceutical Executive, Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)
Rot is my favorite of the early total freeform pieces, though if you like that -- you want the other colors as well. I've heard Gelb since my last post -- some of the sounds, I could swear they're digital, was thinking there was no way this came out in the 70s. but perhaps.
I have a fantastic cassette of the early 80's electropop stuff that I really need to transfer, it beats Conrad & Sohn.
Ballet Statique, though -- if you like electronic music...
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)
schwartz and rot still probably the first two to get of the color reissues on captain trip but since I've had both of those for years already, gelb is the one I'm digging the most
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)
next up from captain trip:
CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CONThe original LP was released on Paragon (Germany), EGG (France). Recorded in 1978 at Paragon studio, Berlin. Produced by Peter Bauman (TANGERINE DREAM). Including three previously unreleased tracks as bonus. Reissue with elaborate miniature paper sleeve of the original LP. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!
CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CON 2+Special coupling album. Including "AUF DEM SCHWARZEN KANAL" (released on RCA in 1980, known as "CON 2") and previously unreleased album "CONSEQUENZ 3" (recorded in 1981). With special paper sleeve. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!
CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CON 3The original LP was released on SKY RECORDS, Germany in 1981. Including 6 bonus tracks (unreleased). Reissue with elaborate miniature paper sleeve of the original LP. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!
CONRAD SCHNITZLER / ElectroconRecorded in 1980-1981. Previously unreleased full album, 14 tracks. With special paper sleeve. Digital remaster version, limited 1,000 copies!!
When you order the 4 CON titles (CTCD-556, 557, 558, 559) on one time, you can get SPECIAL OUTER BOX and elaborate miniature paper sleeve of "AUF DEM SCHWARZEN KANAL" 12inch (These presents are limited edition).
more money i don't have.
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Saturday, 19 August 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)
Rot is crazier and travels through zones, Blau stays circling in place, they're both cool
I didn't know Auf Dem Schwarzen Kanal was Con 2, I can hardly wait to hear that. Con 3 was the pop album for Sky Records, not my favorite.
CONRAD SCHNITZLER / CONThe original LP was released on Paragon (Germany), EGG (France). Recorded in 1978 at Paragon studio, Berlin. Produced by Peter Bauman (TANGERINE DREAM).
aka Ballet Statique. aka the one, the peak, a thing, the start here
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 19 August 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)
― =[[ (eman), Saturday, 19 August 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)
― =[[ (eman), Saturday, 19 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
Later Schnitzler is all freeform electronic. If you like Cluster 74-78 you definitely need Con, it's the warped, atonal, alien insect garden to Sowiesoso's quiet forest lakeside picnic. Produced by Peter Baumann around the same time as Roedelius' Jardin au Fou & Lustwandel.
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 19 August 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)
― =[[ (eman), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)
xp: yeah! thanks milton, cause crack in the cosmic egg isn't exactly helpful re: tha schnizz.
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 August 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)
i've seen rot and blau talked up a lot but have yet to check them out due to laziness or whatever. still not quite sure what to expect but i'm kinda excited to finally hear them.
― =[[ (eman), Sunday, 20 August 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.matthowarth.com/
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)
still haven't heard Gelb yet though .. GOTTA get that one soon..
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 20 August 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)
Listened to Gelb four times in a row last night, beautifully weird, I think this one is one of my favorites now. Want to hear Live Action 77 and Charred Machinery.
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)
Or has it and I somehow missed it?
― Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)
― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 24 August 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Herr Fahrstuhl (Herr Fahrstuhl), Sunday, 27 August 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)
it includes his 'disco' record from 1980 - the 'auf dem schwarzen kanal' ep - which has devastated my head.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 15 September 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)
yow
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=848162
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)
someone kick that ass in the nuts.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)
also, hi record labels of the world - how about some conrad schnitzler reissues that stay in print for more than a month?
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)
for example he's trying to sell an old spalax version of "seligspreisung" (no remaster or bonus tracks) for $30 so obv he's charging idiotic prices
but i should still expect to spend $100-200 on the set, right?
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 15 September 2007 06:06 (eighteen years ago)
they were $26 around here when they came out ($22+shipping from the label, which is how i got them), so if they're "new" i'd bet on at least $125. i'm really wishing i had bought schwartz and rot (have the plate lunch jewel case version of the latter) now, didn't expect them to sell out so fast.
faux-xp: wait a minute, now that i look at that link... DVD? i don't recall a DVD ever being part of that set.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 07:21 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBUa4EFDc_M
Pictures from the 1969 film by Dietmar Buchmann shows scenes from Conrad Schnitzler's Zodiak Free Arts Lab
www.myspace.com/freeartslab
― Milton Parker, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)
"trigger trilogy"??
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)
its weird that considering how you can't get people to shush about cluster / tangerine dream / neu / etc these days there's so little hype on kluster on the internet. what should i expect if i haven't heard them before? cluster 71 type of sound?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)
i don't know about kluster, but did anybody buy the two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac last month, the ones with the dandy jack, bruno pronsato and thomas fehlmann remixes? they're great!
― r1o natsume, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)
xp: sort of. or a little like the first tangerine dream. or AMM or something. eh? water just put out a 3 disc kluster anthology with the albums and one unreleased (?) thing.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.jazzloft.com/p-47658-1970-1971-boxed-set.aspx
I love the first 3 Kluster records. They're studio recordings of live improvisations, a lot more murky and primitive than Cluster '71, but still great. Very much like an extension of all the most extreme noisy aspects of what Schnitzler was doing on the first Tangerine Dream record. First side of the first two albums have freakout religious texts recited in German on them which throws a lot of people off the trail. The original 90's CD issues on Hypnotic had bonus tracks taken from this which were wisely left off, there's no new material. When I heard these in the 90's they were a little too out for me, though I could respect them, but I come back to these every few years and they sound better every time, and when the noise CDR release scene started up and Spencer and Pete started handing me Skaters / Yellow Swans things, these Kluster records from 1970 were the first things I thought of
>two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac
I want these
Captain Trip also put these out, haven't heard any of the early 80's self-releases, I should check some of them out:
Early Self-Product Series - Including the 5 titles (CTCD-614-618) which are: -CONSEQUENZ -CONTEMPORA -CONTEXT -CONVEX - 1.7.84 - and a bonus CD (CTCD-619) in special outer box (totally 6CD box-set). This bonus CD is called 3.3.83 and was originally pressed in an edition of 1 copy for Conrad Schnitzler personally! Recorded in 1983, including bonus tracks. 2008 digital remaster version with stumped paper sleeve, same as the original.
haven't heard Trigger Trilogy either! It is just impossible to keep up with this guy. I'm still going back to Ballet Statique often enough that it's tough to move forward
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)
Bumping for new reissue of the Silver LP from the colour series. Kinda tempted.
― laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)
Silver LP? What's that?
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:21 (sixteen years ago)
Taken from sessions recorded at the same time as the colour series (Rot, Blau, Schwarz, etc). Unreleased, perhaps? Warning bells??
― laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)
All I know is it's a QBICO release. I saw it at Volcanic Tongue. Not much word about it elsewhere.
― laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)
samples sound ok to me, never heard any of that stuff before: http://www.juno.co.uk/products/341746-01.htm
simultaneously the best and the worst album cover.
I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals, four tracks absolute top notch. the tracks stay looping in place for 4-6 minutes each, but all the sounds are beautifully off
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:29 (sixteen years ago)
Schnitzler also has the best lines in this: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34729/kraftwerk-and-the-electronic-revolution/
a little dry overall but worth seeing if you like Krautrock -- lots of Schnitzler / Roedelius / Moebius & Schulze being interviewed about Berlin / Düsseldorf 1960-1970. Organization isn't even mentioned until 40 minutes in, they're too busy talking about Zodiac Free Arts Lab.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)
shouldn't have even linked to that review, though I can see why most Kraftwerk fans are going to be bored by the first hour of this DVD. I was laughing thinking about them during the 5 minute section where they're enthusiastically talking up the first three Kluster records, culminating in them finally fading up an excerpt: three people banging on metal plates and moaning into heavy tape echo
I love those records
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)
samples of "silver" sound pretty good. i was just listening to GRUN or whatever this morning.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:50 (sixteen years ago)
does forced exposure still distro qbico? i just realized i haven't seen any of their releases in a long time.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:51 (sixteen years ago)
thx to this thread i am finally checking out the CON box set... and now i'm mad at myself for not doing it before. i can see 'con'/'ballet statique' quickly turning into an all time favorite
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:36 (sixteen years ago)
man "bie ie blaue blume blüht" off of the green one could totally use some kinda basic channel style rejiggering. not that it isn't brilliant already.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:24 (sixteen years ago)
If I love "Fabrik" (which I heard on the amazing Optimo Cold War mix), where do I go next with CS?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:16 (sixteen years ago)
that's from "auf dem schwarzen kanal" from 1980. i think that was reissued on cd as con 2+, so that'd be a place to start, con is also pretty good.
― dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)
I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals
Yes, that album's really good!
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:11 (sixteen years ago)
ok for years one of my favorite Schnitzler albums has been this absolutely stupid goofy cassette of 80's technopop that a friend dubbed me, no information available at all
Conrad Schnitzler/Gregor Schnitzler - Roofmusic = the bonus CD in that last Captain Trips box set
http://www.japanimprov.com/indies/captaintrip/berlinexpress.html
track 8 = 'Turkish Man Like To Dance'track 9 = 'Tell me why you leave me now / Our love was good enough'
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 15 August 2009 08:44 (sixteen years ago)
'Consequenz II' is just as good, slightly even more together even. it's not music that develops, but the sounds are in and of themselves so disorienting that by the end of each 2 or 3 minute track you can get really bent out of shape
& people are still trying to catch up to something as pure as 'Windmill'
― Milton Parker, Friday, 6 August 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)
Just bought Zug, a piece originally issued on The Red Cassette, now reissued on vinyl on a new label, m=minimal. Backed with remixes of the piece by Pole (!) and borngräber and strüver, whom I know nothing about. Currently listening for the first time, it's pretty & mindblowing at the same time.
― willem, Thursday, 9 September 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)
Melody is the WORM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbKmFERgmI
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
LP of live recordings from 72 sounding amazing:
http://www.furtherrecords.org/index.html
― prior, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:15 (fourteen years ago)
yep this track is incredible. would like to hear the rest.
http://soundcloud.com/alteredzones/conrad-schnitzler-track-12
― dmr, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
think you can stream them from the Further site!
― prior, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
RIP
From Wikipedia :
Conrad Schnitzler passed away from stomach cancer in the evening 4 August 2011
― /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\etc (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 August 2011 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
Oh man... ;_;
Can't find a single news story about it.
Jesus
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
Supposedly "official" Conrad Schnitzler page? Still not positive how official this is. http://www.fancymoon.com/con_s/
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 6 August 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
Aw no! RIP.
― the ascent of nyan (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 6 August 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
Uh...
http://www.conrad-schnitzler.de/neu.htm
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 6 August 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
Very sad. This thread got me into checking his music. I've loved much of it.
― Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 6 August 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
super bummed, RIP
― Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 6 August 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
played 'Conal' last week on a road trip north of Yosemite as we started getting into the mountains. it was perfect.
putting on the 'Ballet Statique' CD to make breakfast.
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 6 August 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
― Dominique, Saturday, 6 August 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.fancymoon.com/con_s/
notices are starting to pop up, relievedly. this passing is not one to miss. schnitzler's club in berlin was pretty much ground zero, krautrock would have been very different without this man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiak_Free_Arts_Lab
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 6 August 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I once made a pilgrimage to the original site of the Zodiak Free Arts Lab, on one of my visits to Germany...
So sad about this.
― geeta, Saturday, 6 August 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
Posting to ILM from yr phone, from the back of the room during a keynote talk = challenging
― geeta, Saturday, 6 August 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
rip, big man.
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:20 (fourteen years ago)
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:26 (fourteen years ago)
RIP. I'm feelin' Blau about this.
― The Pleasure Garden of Felipe Sagittarius (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 7 August 2011 04:19 (fourteen years ago)
RIP - never heard a ton of his work, but the Kluster LPs and his solo stuff on Important is really good
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 7 August 2011 04:27 (fourteen years ago)
Das bummer. RIP Con. Great man.
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 August 2011 11:48 (fourteen years ago)
RIP. Rot is one of my favorite things ever, as are Kluster and that first Tangerine Dream album. A tremendous figure in my musical life for sure.
― douche chills (crüt), Sunday, 7 August 2011 11:50 (fourteen years ago)
Writing up an obituary piece--let me know if any of you have thoughts or memories you'd like to add
A friend is giving me a copy of a radio show he did in the '80s, where he had Schnitzler as the special musical guest--it is awesome
― geeta, Sunday, 7 August 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
jeez, this is a bummer. r.i.p.
― original bgm, Monday, 8 August 2011 13:48 (fourteen years ago)
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
Brief but wonderful documentary (auf Deutsch):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTR88nW4GcU
― geeta, Monday, 8 August 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
i have never gotten deep into his music, not because i don't love "auf dem schwarzen kanal" but only because i have found it so hard to get ahold of. i never got those captain trip reissues of yellow, red, black, etc
someone should organize a memorial torrent
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 8 August 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
he's done a lot of different things. 'auf dem schwarzen kanal' was the most visible 12" in a brief pop music period. if you like that, check out 'con 3' 'consequenz I' 'consequenz II' and 'roofmusic' (the latter is silly but a sentimental favorite)
and 'ballet statique' (aka 'con') -- not pop, but it's not just his best but one of the best electronic music albums of all time
― Milton Parker, Monday, 8 August 2011 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
ballet statique was reissued earlier this year. milton otm, completely essential
pretty much everything i've heard of his up until like mid 80s (haven't had a chance to go much further as yet) has been gold, pure gold
especially love his warped synth pop phase
hopefully there'll be some reissues of the private press stuff
rip con
― missingNO, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 00:35 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdIZsbCe-g
gelb, pure gelb
wrote these reviews of the captain trips reissues for a retail website that sold out of them before they could even post them -- ah well, here now
Conrad Schnitzler, Con (Captain Trips Records)
From 1978, 'Con' is Schnitzler's most legendary release. After adecade of recording extended side long damaged & detuned synthepics, he went into the studio with Tangerine Dream's Peter Baumann,who refined Schnitzler's most decentered sounds into five discreettracks. At a time when many of the established electronicmusicians were eschewing all abstraction to focus on classical (andcommercial) melodies, spending more and more time behind the keyboardsand less at the patchbay, Schnitzler's sculptures on 'Con' werepushing even further towards the forgotten potentials for pureabstraction in electronic sound. The opening thirteen minutetrack 'Electric Garden' is a subtle and spare masterpiece.
This album was originally released on CD by Spalax as 'BalletStatique' in 1992 with five bonus tracks taken from the 1981 album'Electrocon'. This edition on Captain Trips is remastered(sounds slightly louder but otherwise the same), and contains threenew bonus tracks, including two later reworkings of the track 'BalletStatique'. Lovely mini-sleeve replica of the original vinyl, andan illustrated fold-out sleeve. Though there's no need to rebuythis if you have the Spalax edition, many of the people who've heard'Con' list it among their favorite electronic albums of all time,including me. If you're only buying one, make sure it's thisone.
Conrad Schnitzler, Con 2+ (Captain Trips Records)
The 1980 followup to Schnitzler's disorienting and beautifulmasterpiece 'Con', was, surprisingly, a 12-inch disco single for RCARecords. Though 'Disco' might remain a relative term, the fourtracks on the 'Auf Dem Schwarzen Kanal' EP are straight up danceableelectropop. The production standard is very high, withSchnitzler's distinct analog synth solos filling in all the detailsbetween his chanted, vocodered & filtered vocals. Releasednear the beginning of Neue Deutsche Welle and the rise of Germanicelectropop that signalled a clean break from the tranced out cosmicmusic of the 70's, Schnitzler might have been the last person peopleexpected to bridge the gap without missing a beat, but he did it:this 12" EP is definitely of interest to fans of contemporaryworks by D.A.F., Pyrolator or Palais Schaumberg, but shows thedistinctive fingerprints of a ten year veteran of the electric musiclab. This Captain Trips release fills out the disc with apreviously unreleased album recorded in 1981, 'Consequenz 3',featuring an assortment of primitive synth sounds laid over loud,live, real drums -- while some of the tracks sound somewhatunfinished, the sounds remain bizarre and there are enough strangetwists in the tracks to take the unprepared listener by surprise.The main attraction here, however, is of course the re-release of thelong unavailable 'Auf Dem Schwarzen Kanal'. Captain Trips hasadded a lyric sheet in English and Japanese, as well as an illustratedfold-out insert.
Conrad Schnitzler, Con 3 (Captain Trips Records)
Schnitzler's 1981 'Con 3' follows on from the previous year's 12"EP with an entire album of electropop for Germany's Sky Records.The sounds are still strange, but the cleanly recorded spoken wordvocals are now front and center in the mix. There are manypeople who will prefer his slightly bent electropop songs to the purerabstractions of his earlier (and later) work -- and for those who love'Auf Dem Schwarzen Kanal', this is definitely the album lengthfollowup. Perhaps slightly less strange, but still, with theoccasional track like 'Wer Sind Wir Denn', hardly normal. The CDadds six tracks of instrumental remixes of the album's tracks -- very,very minimal.
Conrad Schnitzler, Electrocon (Captain Trips Records)
The original CD release of 'Con' (as 'Ballet Statique') on SpalaxRecords in 1992 also featured five previously unreleased bonus tracksthat were just as beautiful as the album itself, each one exactly fourminutes long. Here at last is a release of the entire album theywere pulled from, also recorded at Peter Baumann's Paragon Studio from1980 to 1981. If you're a fan of 'Con', this is certainly a greatfollowup purchase. And this one definitely has my favoritecover of the entire series -- the man himself, dressed to ridecomplete with robotic helmet, posing atop a metal sculpture,brandishing his binaural head-shaped microphone at the end of a longpole. Thanking you!
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 08:02 (fourteen years ago)
2006 interview in The Wire:
http://thewire.co.uk/articles/7175/
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
Thanking you!
― I thought that I heard you loling, I thought that I heard you steen (crüt), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
Love this:
"I’m not soft eyes. I’m eyes with bananas in. I have Xs in my eyes."
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
nice piece on con by randy jones:
http://madronalabs.com/topics/987-conrad-schnitzler-remembered
― geeta, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 05:33 (fourteen years ago)
“Ja! I’m always trying to make sounds that aren’t normal. To avoid sounds that you can make real music with.”
Love this guy.
― The Pleasure Garden of Felipe Sagittarius (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 05:38 (fourteen years ago)
Conrad Schnitzler tribute on WFMU right now (3-6 PM EST) with special guest GenKen, who knew him well:
http://wfmu.org
― geeta, Thursday, 18 August 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
they're playing 'Gelb' right now
I'm told they'll soon be live mixing material from the cassette concerts--it's like a con-cert but on WFMU
― geeta, Thursday, 18 August 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
thanks for the heads up! listening. d-_-b
― original bgm, Thursday, 18 August 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
^^
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Thursday, 18 August 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
my epic 3000-word obituary on Schnitzler will be up at frieze.com, either later today or tomorrow--i'll post the link when it's up
― geeta, Thursday, 18 August 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
here's the link to the obituary i wrote, for frieze:
http://www.frieze.com/comment/article/conrad-schnitzler/
― geeta, Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)
The Live '72 double LP on Further is excellent.
― allday, Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:45 (fourteen years ago)
you are some kind of saint, geeta
amazing work
― Milton Parker, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)
you are sweet, milton
just heard from seidel, who told me that he's printing it out and delivering it to con's wife
― geeta, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
Great piece
― 50000000 elves (blank), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:46 (fourteen years ago)
yeah!
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:51 (fourteen years ago)
thanks, guys!
Dave weighs in at the Stranger, great headline:
http://lineout.thestranger.com/lineout/archives/2011/08/24/the-longest-article-on-the-internet-about-conrad-schnitzler
― geeta, Thursday, 25 August 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)
finally got around to reading your article, geeta. really loved it.
― original bgm, Sunday, 4 September 2011 07:07 (fourteen years ago)
thanks, alan.
i've been getting a lot of letters from people asking me to post the 30-page-long Con email that I refer to in the article. wondering if that's a good idea.
i mean, it is long. there is certainly interesting stuff in there. most of it is in german. but perhaps i should wait before doing that. for one thing, it'd be good to translate the whole thing from german to english. but also, to interpret it, try to give it some context, instead of just dropping it on my website as a giant mass of data. for example, there's a lot of interesting stuff in there about his thoughts on various sculptors (jean arp, alexander archipenko, etc); a lot of stuff about rhythm, and his concept of how rhythm works, and about painting (especially jackson pollock)
― geeta, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
i was going to say ... and i was going to ask whether it's enough for a 33 1/3 or something that length?
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
not that they'd do a 33 1/3 on ballet statique or whatever
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
ha ha! i think writing one 33 1/3 book was enough for me!
if i wrote a 120-page book about something like this, something that meant a lot to me that was a bit too 'out-there' for yr average american publishing house--and just distributed it myself, as a PDF, would people be into it? perhaps i could get people to send donations? if i could get people to agree to pay $10 up front (perhaps for a 'signed, numbered' copy that's printed on nice paper?) i could probably afford to do this.
― geeta, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
i would
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
<3
now i just need to round up another 2,999 people and it's a go
― geeta, Sunday, 4 September 2011 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
#2999!
― original bgm, Monday, 5 September 2011 05:41 (fourteen years ago)
if i wrote a 120-page book about something like this, something that meant a lot to me that was a bit too 'out-there' for yr average american publishing house
I was going to suggest talking to the folks who put out the Roedelius biography "Painting with Sound", which was about that length iirc and padded out by lots of glossy photos, but the internet says that's the only book they ever published, so I guess they're probably the author's one-man operation rather than an actual publisher you could pitch to.
Anyway somehow I heard of that and bought a real paper copy without knowing the author or even being a hardcore obsessive Roedelius fan, if that gives you any hope.
Thing I was strangely delighted to learn: Conrad's son Gregor i.e. the teenager ranting on Conrad und Sohn has gone on to be a screenwriter, incl. for long-running much-loved German crime show Tatort
― the ascent of nyan (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:11 (fourteen years ago)
I'm in. So that's, what, another 2996 to go?
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)
Count me in, too.
But I don't really see why it being a long e-mail and parts of it in German should obstruct it being posted in full, if you think it can be interesting to many?
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:37 (fourteen years ago)
if it was $10 i bet i could get 10 friends to buy it
ich habe vier jahre deutsche klasse gelearned im schule
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)
see if you can spot the fake german in that sentence
for what it's worth ILX has some folks who do small publishing (forget their usernames), they did chapbooks for Abbott and ZS
chancepress.com
― sleeve, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
blurb.com books can look pretty nice too
― original bgm, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
i think we're down to 2,994 now
<3 all of you
posting to ILM from my phone, in the hospital--today totally sucks :(
― geeta, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
ugh, sympathies
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
conrad schnitzler archive & live cassette concert mixed by gen ken montgomery, streaming now on wfmu
with promised special guest appearence by g. dayal
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
Oh great!
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago)
Very interesting. Only complaint is the background music playing during the interview parts is too loud.
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)
thanks for listening, you guys!
it was definitely worth extending my NYC trip for this, though i am now coming down with a lousy cold
― geeta, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago)
I'd say even a cold was worth it, loved listening to it! Great and fitting tribute to a wonderful man <3
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago)
a few snapshots from yesterday's WFMU session:
http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/tapes.jpg
http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/kwh.jpg
http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/schoenheit.jpg
― geeta, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago)
I had a splendid time listening to it yesterday Geeta, a very fitting tribute!
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 28 October 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago)
Sometimes my friends would recognise me and come up to me, say, ‘Hey, Con, what are you doing?’ I would just speak to them in a robot voice through the loudspeaker. ‘I do not understand. I am not Con. Would you like to buy a cassette?’”
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
lol
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)
oh, there's a pic too
http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/schnitzler__conrad/Schnitzler-street.jpg
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)
wow that's great. people who figured out how to live imho.
― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)
classic pic!
― geeta, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)
been listening to "Blau" a lot lately - does anyone know what the "Wild Space" bonus tracks are? very cool but clearly much more recent than the actual album!
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)
now I'm onto Con..crazy how much "Ballet Statique" seems to have influenced Underworld
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)
röt and blau reissued on bureau b!
picked up blau today, röt got backordered
here's hoping for schwarz, gelb, grön, con 1, con 2+ and con 3 ...
― the late great, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)
errr grün
Yeah, I got Blau, too. Already had it on CD but I'm more likely to listen to side-long electronic tracks on LP. Hope they do Schwarz et al, too!
― Amoeba, Fish, Monkey, Shame (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)
think we talked about this on noize but the captain trip shit is so expensive at this point!
thank you again bureau b!
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)
Got the m=minimal reissue of Ballet Statique / Con with the Red Cassette added on, amazing, where has this been all my life?
― phuturephase, Friday, 8 February 2013 20:44 (twelve years ago)
hey someone in new york go to this and post back
> The Last Weekend at AVA-Generator Saturday & Sunday> > Saturday September 14, 2013> > 12 - 6pm> CONRAD SCHNITZLER> SIX HOUR CASSETTE CONCERT > CONDUCTED BY GEN KEN> Drop by anytime Saturday for a rare opportunity to hear octophonic music composedby one of the foremost masters of electronic music. Schnitzler studied sculpturewith Joseph Beuys before turning his attention to sound. Hear Schnitzler’s musicthe way he wanted his audiences to hear it.> > THE LAST NIGHT AT AVA GENERATOR - Closing Party 8 - 11pm> > 9pm> The Enchantress of Bioluminosity > with live sound by Michael Zodorozny (Crash Course in Science) and Gen Ken Montgomery> +> 10pm> 3D SLIDE SHOW by Lary Seven > 3-D photographs taken at Generator 1989-1990
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:41 (twelve years ago)
http://audiovisualarts.org/5973/generator
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:43 (twelve years ago)
I went to this! the space was quite small but it was easy to get lost in the layers of sound and it was a real treat to be able to hear this stuff 'mixed' like that. 'gen ken' is a super nice guy too and had some amazing records and related memorabilia out.
I was unfamiliar with what was being played but I did hear some material in a 'symphonic' style I wasn't aware schnitzler had dabbled in. lots of synthesized strings and the playing was fairly busy. sorry if I'm being vague but I only caught bits here and there. would be very grateful if anyone could steer me towards any releases in schnitzler's catalog that might match this description!
― original bgm, Monday, 23 September 2013 23:32 (twelve years ago)
gelb and grün reissued!
― the late great, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:12 (ten years ago)
i always hear his name in the voice of ned flanders saying 'white wine spritzer'
only listened briefly to the gelb reissue but it sounds really good
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:35 (ten years ago)
Grun is pretty great if memory serves.
― Temple of Infinite Grohls (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 09:34 (ten years ago)
damn ballet statique fuckin' slaps
― the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:16 (five years ago)
not enough talk about Silber itt, that one's staggeringly great as well, some tracks are even melodic in a proto-Chris Carter kinda way. I love Asmus Tietchens liner notes where he plays detective trying to figure out what synth was used
the essential Bureau B reissue CDs have great bonus tracks to boot, some good stuff on the Gelb CD too
― The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:14 (five years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e1jboetIMs
Have watched this a bunch of times, but didn't realize it was posted by his official YouTube channel, or that there were dozens of other videos to check out.
― lukas, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:22 (four years ago)
Couple of Bureau B rereleases happening:
https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/con-84
https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/consequenz-ii
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:45 (three years ago)