Shoegazer Revival - S/D

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I've heard some stuff from the Stratford 4 (I likey), but don't know much else about the new shoegazer/dreampop "revival."

Any band/album recommendations?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

www.tonevendor.com
www.clairecords.com

Browse with love.

Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Grazi. The second link goes to Tonevendor, too.

http://www.clairecords.com/, for anyone else looking.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Stratford 4 are on Firewater's label, Jetset. Check'emout at:

http://jetset.sinner.com/

Also, from the "Imaginary Tribute Bands" thread, I firmly think someone should capitalize on my idea and form an angular post-hardcore band that plays dream-pop covers and call themselves SHUGAZI. I'd fuckin' go see that in a nanosecond.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search ILM, we've done this question several times in the past year.
But once again: Mean Red Spiders, The Peter Parkers (not be confused with Peter Parker), A Northern Chorus, current wonderkids Broken Social Scene, Skywave and Aerial Love Feed come to mind.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

[There must be a new shoegazer/dreampop thread every month or so ! on ILM]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Longwave is pretty shoegazery, despite getting labelled as the Next Big New York Thing. On the less poppy side of things, Yume Bitsu and The Helio Sequence are both pretty good.

Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

What Noodles and Martian said (but it's good that you're interested, Mr. Auckerman).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sianspheric
Landing
Paik

brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Malory and Timonium are both worth falling head over heels for.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

speaking of Timonium, their label Pehr does a lot of other good 'gazery stuff.. but Clairecords' catalogue is stunning.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

The second link goes to Tonevendor, too.

Oops. I didn't realize they had started redirecting. Not too long ago there was a separate site for Clairecords.

Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks for the heads up re: previous thrads. I just ran a Google search earlier and it didn't turn anything up.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 12 June 2003 06:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

In the UK, neo-shoegazer seems to be taking off on the post-Mogwai trip. Only bands I can think of off the top of my head are Red Jetson, who are a bit like Idlewild crossed with early Swervedriver. And Hentai, who love their pedals perhaps too much, but they are worth it for their name.

kate (kate), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I want to say The Workhouse, but they're more Durutti than Valentines

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.masstransfer.net

Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

search seattle's The Melody Unit, esp. the recent 'Choose Your Own Adventure'.

derrick (derrick), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:32 (twenty-one years ago) link


Oops. I didn't realize they had started redirecting. Not too long ago there was a separate site for Clairecords

they did away with the old site cause new blood took over the tech duties and did tonevender all nice and cool. (* cries! i was their tech guy but life changes and all.)

i'm not sure i'd really call them revival. clairecords has been putting out shoegaze influenced records since the early 90's.

much of their music has totally different attachments besides the earliest goods.

very, very nice guys. buy stuff from them. rare is the distro that sends you candy with your goods!

m.

msp, Friday, 13 June 2003 00:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

that's a bit... twee.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 13 June 2003 02:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

please get over it.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 02:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

ha. i didn't get any candy with my last order.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 13 June 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

really? chiz. i haven't ordered from them in a year or so though so maybe it was sending them broke!

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 02:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

recently it has mostly been postcards of lame bands. v ery darla.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 13 June 2003 02:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Color Wall out of Los Angeles. Also, some friends of mine in an Ann Arbor band called The Jealous Type which some of you may like. My first reaction to their disc was "Fugazi gone 4AD", but now that may be giving their first album a bit too much credit.

Also, look up a band on MP3.com called the Flashing Astonishers. Or the Flaming Astonishers. One of the two.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

i've got a coupla their empees that are rather good

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

norman records sends candy! and it's cool candy I can't find in the US too. I Love Norman Records!

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 13 June 2003 05:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

i got some candy called White Stripes from norman. and classy stickers.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 05:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ditto on Workhouse if you are talking about the Oxford band. Saw them live and although they're one of those "only have two gears" bands, they were very enjoyable in a relentless yet beautiful way. Their guitarist had two delay/sampler pedals!

kate (kate), Friday, 13 June 2003 07:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...
The new Fennesz, the Delays, Mew, it's all coming back, woo!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

haha "the new fennesz"...

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

alright, so, i just added some Ecstasy of St. Theresa album to my "shopping cart." i did this because of the blurb on the website citing things like "fuzzy guitars" and "inaudible male and female vocals." but i ask you, denizens of ILX: is it good? what specifically is great that i will love? i typically don't like compilations, but are any of the currently in print ones a *quality* sample?

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

okay, so just tell me if i'm making a mistake in buying pia fraus "in solarium" and the ecstasay of st. theresa "sussurate."

kthx.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

dude...

The Ecstacy Of Saint Theresa - S/D

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

i am silly and should have thought of searching.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

the stratford 4: meh. there isn't much shoegazery about them despite how they seem to want their press to portray them.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

tonevendor do good blurbs. i've never been disappointed taking a chance on a record based on their little spiels

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

it's still daniel from clairecords right?

fun fact: a looooooong before i was blessed with his friendship, occasional ilx0r msp did the website for clairecords. he is dreamy. seriously.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

HI DO U GUYZ LIEK APPLESEED CAST?

Lil' Won Jilliams (ex machina), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

yep still the same peoples..

(xp)

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

That first Timonium record is just so very good.

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Monday, 29 March 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

i have a video game that's soundtrack includes (aside from the hoodoo gurus!!!) a band named snowpatrol that do a song called "shouting games" which has a very Loveless inspired female melody during the chorus.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago) link

pia fraus is great, more propulsive(sometimes like rocketship, sometimes like lush) than a lot of current shoegaze stuff. my favorite band from estonia.

radio dept. are maybe the best pop shoegaze band, their newest ep 'pulling our weight' is great.

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

i haven't even been on this thread and i just got an email from someone called pete. whats up?

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

OH NO SHOEGAZE SPAM

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

this brings back memories of the blisscent list

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

it was named "Shoegaze" and the mailer claimed to be an ilxor. did you get one jim?

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

if i did it was probably to my hotmail addy so i'll know when i get home

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

I Repeat:
Sianspheric
Landing
Paik

brg30 (brg30), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

Experimental Aircraft out of Austin are worth giving a listen - http://experimentalaircraft.com/

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

Mahogany needs to be mentioned on this thread, I think. Did they ever release anything after The Dream of a Modern Day? And are they still around?

Ryan WS (fffv), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

they are still around, andrew prinz has been doing lots of production work. the follow-up Connectivity was meant to be out by now but is still a little while away i think. the second Auburn Lull LP is out v soon though i gather

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

they played some live dates not too long ago

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

And while it's not shoegaze and they never have been per se, the new Church album is still required. Goddamn these guys are still great.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

i'm a fan of the pluramon and joy zipper records. pluramon's nice and crunchy, joy zipper not so rough, but divine nonetheless.

glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 09:23 (twenty years ago) link

Delays are LP of the week on Ken Bruce!

the blissfox, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

new auburn lull is out in early may. it will probably be very beautiful. manual is getting more and more slowdive-ish with each release

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

new auburn lull is out in early may.

Ten years after the first one! Or so it seems.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

Sianspheric

YES! Especially The Sound of the Colour of the Sun. Absolute classic (if you're into shoegazer, that is).

rainman (rainman), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

not quite ten. more like six.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

I heard something great as I was renting videos at The Wherehouse (terrible store for music, mostly out of business for those who don't know). It sounded like something 'Loveless'-y, but not very "shoegaze" and it turned out to be Snow Patrol. Pretty good stuff actually. And the Mew is amazing, I would recommend it to anyone who thought they might like Smashing Pumpkins if it weren't for being annoyed by Corgan.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

haha spencer scroll up! maybe the same song.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

New bands that are influenced by shoegaze, but aren't "newgaze" or just rehashing old bands:

Mahogany
Pia Fraus
Brasilia
On!Air!Library!

All worthy of checking out.

goodies, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

I anti-recommend Los Halos.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

haha spencer scroll up! maybe the same song.

whoops! I actually forgot to paste your post before mine. I figured out the track I heard was "Gleaming Auction", but other songs on the album, 'Final Straw' sound similar.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

I keep confusing Snow Patrol with Snowpony, every time I see the name. Has anyone heard the Snowpony album? Was it any good or was a awful?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

it wasn't great. i loved the first two singles but the album lacked the same spark.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

the second Snowpony album (Sea Shanties for Spaceships) was better. a bit like Ruby. which seems like a contradiction, i realize, but it's really not.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

i didn't even know it existed!

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

It's around. There's a two disc edition.

I vote for the Delays over Mew, they work better on some undefinable level, though both are quite fine. Fennesz is better than both, though. The Joshua Treble solo album that came out recently is a pretty good if not striking Fennesz-like release which has its moments of haze and gaze.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

I'm really surprised you like the Delays over Mew. The Delays seem slightly non-descript, whereas Mew have much more interesting textures and are more histrionic, along Pumpkins lines. Have you checked out Snow Patrol? Check out "Gleam Auction". It's almost right in between those two bands. I think Fennesz is doing something that can't be compared to those "bands".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

whereas Mew have much more interesting textures and are more histrionic, along Pumpkins lines.

Are they? I have to be honest, I didn't sense that, it just seemed like, well, enjoyable shoegaze, and I definitely don't recall any Pumpkins-like ego-apocalypse. Even Stina Nordenstam singing on tracks didn't spark things up further. The Delays are fairly straightforward perhaps, but they've got a good producer in Graham Sutton and they know how to work in strange noises into their songs, and it was all in all more involving for me, by a hair I guess.

I think Fennesz is doing something that can't be compared to those "bands".

Which is part of the point, by demonstrating how to use haze for alternate purposes -- it's a seemingly obvious equation of gaze plus IDM with ridiculously grand results that tends to trump all the other recent attempts at same -- whereas all the new bands sound like...bands doing shoegaze. Which, as I thought while I listened to some Bethany Curve, isn't always enough anymore.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago) link

regarding the Mew record, I'm referring very specifically to the first three tracks from 'Frengers':

"Am I Wry? No"
"156"
"Snow Brigade"

There's *way* more going on with the arrangements and textures than anywhere on the Delays album, and the vocals go quite stratospheric at points.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link

But to get really Corganesque, you have to start babbling in your mind about all the demons of adolescence still on your back, then rant about churches abandoning you in the middle of ten-minute breakouts. You know, going for the gusto stuff. ;-)

Really, this is all based on first listens, and the Delays' hooks worked better than Mew's, and that always counts for something. As such, Mew really ultimately strike me as no more or less creative than the Delays, the latter just has a little certain something in the end results more.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

(Keep in mind also that I saw the Church last night and they wipe the floor with both bands anyway, and Marty Willson-Piper is more of a stroppy guitar god moody bastard then either of them could muster. Woo!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

Well Ned, I will listen again to the Delays, and I would urge you to return to those specific tracks.

As for Fennesz, as much as I enjoy his records (and especially several of the tracks on 'Venice'), it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc. The best tracks on 'Venice' sound like 'Loveless' interstitials which is a high compliment, but they're not specifically why I always return to that record. Also, there's a Kevin Shields piece called "2" from his La La Human Steps collaboration which is perhaps his best pure texture track (I've only found a barely acceptable quality .mp3 unfortunately). It gives me that same ecstatic nausea that frankly, no other "shoegaze" artist can do.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

Well Ned, I will listen again to the Delays, and I would urge you to return to those specific tracks.

One Delays track I'm thinking of has this bit of Sigur Ros-style 'beautiful' guitar noise, but they then proceed to make a hook out of that instead of floating off into the ether wibbling like Our Boys From Iceland. Really captured my ear, because it's a seemingly simple approach that adds some unexpected depth, and not in the 'oh it is art' sense, just in the 'hey, more going on!' sense.

it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc

Well that's why for me when Sylvian brings in the purring voice everything's all 'oh heavens, THIS is nice.' I hadn't even realized he was on there and I still haven't heard the stuff they did together last year, so it was quite striking how well the two combined.

ecstatic nausea

Mmmm, nausea. Needs to be more of that. Haven't been knocked sideways in a long, long while.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

It's around. There's a two disc edition.

Yes there is (re: Snowpony), and the second disc is remarkable, being as it's tracks off the album remixed in a drum'n'bass stylee by, er, Moving Shadow's Rob Playford...

As a slight aside, I finally got my mitts on a copy of Lush's Gala compilation! Arrived in the post yesterday. My, is it lovely.

Oh, and as to the shouegazine revival, think I might've mentioned Sennen before, but I've only just found out they have a website. so ner.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

*cough* "shouegazine"? what's wrong with me?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:52 (twenty years ago) link

hahaha

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

I think this whole idea of the electronica/shoegaze thing is what makes me love the Telefon Tel Aviv newest album so much.

yo yo yo (cRaiG), Friday, 2 April 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
HA HA, REVIVE, BECAUSE WE ALL WENT TO A SHOEGAZER CLUB ON SATURDAY NIGHT!!!

I mean, it was even called "Sonic Cathedrals" and everything.

Radio Department played. But that wasn't even the highlight of the evening. The Telescopes DJ'd.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:35 (twenty years ago) link

we don't have shoegazer clubs

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:40 (twenty years ago) link

London hasn't seen a proper shoegazer club in OVER A DECADE, but my god did it need one. I was even willing to put up with a Hoxton crowd and horrible heat just for the privilige of spinning around wildly to Loop's "Spinning" on a dance floor. Oh yes, and Sonic Boom videos, too. I can die happy.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:45 (twenty years ago) link

i would dj a fucking awesome set at a shoegaze club, but in melbourne it would be me and perhaps four others.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

Dancing to shoegaze!

Next thing you know some corny English fuck will talk over some crappy electro beats about SMSing....

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

SORRY FOR UNFUNNY

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

I would like to DJ a more extreme music set than I do at shitty campus stuff. NOISE + SHOEGAZE + MODERN COMPOSER CRAP ETC

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:47 (twenty years ago) link

Charlie No.4 has been talking about starting a Shoegazer club for ages, so I'm glad that someone finally did it.

What's crazy is I had forgotten just how danceable much of Shoegazing really was! I mean, sure, lots of it was Cathedrals of Sound type prettiness, but the extended dance mixes and the Weatherall mixes and the "rave music with Rickenbachers, right?" stuff...

I guess, post-Manitoba, someone actually realised "YOU KNOW WHAT?!?!? CHAPTERHOUSE REALLY WERE GREAT!!!"

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:51 (twenty years ago) link

send me MDMA in mail europeople

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:54 (twenty years ago) link

Kate>>> How was the Radio Dept show?

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 25 October 2004 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Radio Dept. were really, really, good, as well. I need to get their record because they were very swirly and lovely. At least I have a badge now. :-)

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:08 (twenty years ago) link

That club night was AMAZING. I had such a good time despite the other major issues (too hot, no coatcheck, took AGES to get a drink) . I can't remember the last time I got to hear that music in a club. Being able to dance to all that old creation stuff (House of Love, Ride, MBV) was such a treat. OMG Pale Saints! Loop! It even occurred to me (briefly) that Revolver were actually kinda good...

(And hey surfacenoise - I'll be visiting Melbourne in a couple months, so you'd have five people there... )

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:14 (twenty years ago) link

The Revolver video was really cute.

I spent the first 20 minutes just staring at the screen, until I realised that it was on a repeating loop. I mean, Lush videos! Ride videos I'd never seen. Slowdive videos. Chapterhouse videos. Did I mention the SONIC BOOM videos? They did a whole Spacemen spin-offs set including even The Darkside.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:17 (twenty years ago) link

And I thought Radio Dept. were pretty good live too, although I wasn't blown away - probably because I was expecting too much since the CD is so damn spiffy.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:23 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, see, I haven't heard the CD so I didn't know what to expect.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:24 (twenty years ago) link

Blimey, we toyed with going to this for a while but just went back to a mates house and got trammelled. We all agreed it was a good idea though. ahhh revolver

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

it was a lot of fun in a slightly cloying nostalgic kindofa way. the scene that celebrates itself even made a little bit of an effort. baby sitters all over london must have been doing a roaring trade looking after all those little stripey t shirted tarquins and tabithas. the records were pretty much as i remembered only less so, with the arse end (pale saints, chapterhouse, fkn revolver) sounding a lot more trad rock and not really that, ahem, etheriel at all. revolver were pretty much emf with a flange pedal. still as revisiting floppy fringed youth exerecises go, it was pretty inoffensive. radio dept were better than i'd imagine too, tho the shoegazing tag is a bit a misnomer, more of a sarah rcds / pacific almost mongolfier brothers kindof a thing? no? i was stupendously drunk and not so attentive perhaps.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 10:58 (twenty years ago) link

i'm amazed you were able to get drunk at all given the slow wait at the bar...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

ahhhh. i had my minions working overtime. blimey was it ever hot though.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:18 (twenty years ago) link

> the arse end (pale saints...

cough, splutter. my mouth is opening and closing but no words are coming out.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I know, I was ignoring that.

I think Pale Saints were one of the most underrated bands of the 90s.

I was in the loo when "Sight Of You" came on, but I was so so so so soooo happy to hear it again.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:26 (twenty years ago) link

radio dept were better than i'd imagine too, tho the shoegazing tag is a bit a misnomer, more of a sarah rcds / pacific almost mongolfier brothers kindof a thing? no?

Yes, definitely, very much OTM!

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link

no nono you're right, pale saints don't deserve that bracket at all, some frineds of mine are walking up the aisle to their version of kinky love next weekend, did they play that on saturday or did i DREAM it. i still stand by the revolver thing though. they didn't play any moose did they? that strawberry wine / mercy seat / how you satisfy me sequence was something else. and yeh the sub spacemen 3 half hour was fun, it threw into sharp relief how bombastic and sortof histrionic most droney psychy rock is these days.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

oh come on, in what way is the twee mimsy of "heaven sent an angel" anything like EMF. (twee mimsy that I have to 'fess up to having a big soft spot for - mind you haven't heard it in about ten years)

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:48 (twenty years ago) link

EMF had a slightly winsome cure-ish quality to the singing no, but really it's the over produced 90's beef of the drums and all those power chords and stuff. and the horrible inspipd obviousness of the tune.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, they played Kinky Boots. One of my mates at the party we'd been at all afternoon utterly called "I bet they'll play Kinky Boots..." and lo and behold...

strawberry wine / mercy seat / how you satisfy me

I nearly exploded with happiness. Oh wait, maybe that was the heat. But still. No heat in the world could have stopped me from dancing to that.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know this 'Revolver' business.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

http://snow.prohosting.com/ukband/Revolver.htm

notable only for their cover of Since Yesterday.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link

Slough Festival?!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

All this talk makes me of the merry.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link

Radio Dept. are live in session on the Hub on Gideon Coe/ 6 Music this Friday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/gideon_coe/

also apparently tomorrow is:

We wish My Bloody Valentine's Debbie Googe a very Happy Indie Birthday today!

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

> Slough Festival?!

i was there! twice!

ride, curve, slowdive in 1991
er, jesus jones in 1992

http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister@majordomo.net/1998-month-07/msg00471.html
(check out the 'prev by date' message 8)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

can someone reccomend some of this dancefloor friendly shoegaze stuff for me

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

What are the 3 must own albums from Clairecords?

Piers (piers), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link

Good God, that club sounds like my idea of heaven.

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

:( answers?

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago) link

Well, there are a few. It depends on what you're interested in.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

give me a starting place

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

Chapterhouse, Seefeel and of course MBV (at points).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

teenage filmstars "loving"

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

What are the 3 must own albums from Clairecords?
-- Piers (pier...), October 25th, 2004 8:42 AM. (piers) (later)

ecstasy of st. theresa - sussurate

also: tonevendor (who are big-upped on the Sacramento C/D, S/D. thread) are daniel and heather of clairecords.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

New Monster Movie album is great

Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

You know, I remember that paragraph from Keith. Well, bits of it.

Where was Slough festival held? If that's not a silly question.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:43 (twenty years ago) link

dancefloor friendly shoegaze = chapterhouse's "pearl"!

mbv's "soon" has a good beat but it's not really dancefloor-danceable (sorta like flipper's "sex bomb", &c).

etc, Monday, 25 October 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

hhaha comparing mbv to flipper!

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks surface noise and gygax. am thoroughly looking forward to receiving my first clairecords order!

Piers (piers), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Three Words:

THE EARLY YEARS!!!

http://www.myspace.com/thesoundoftheearlyyears

Go get it. I heart them.

Going Through The Motions (kate), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

the early years album is good

i'm still enjoying the fleeting joys album despite it being hilariously derivative

jeniferever are also v good

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, that last band -- they named themselves after an unreleased Smashing Pumpkins song? And I thought *I* was obsessive...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Soundpool's new album is pretty good.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

listening to this early years mob via myspace and thinking "meh", i realise that i somehow have their "all ones and zeroes" EP. added to iTunes 17/01/2006. last played ... er, 17/01/2006 :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 26 October 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't have the EP - looked at it at Truck, but the shop was already cashing out so I couldn't get it.

Is it a different mix from the album? I mean, I would actually say they're slightly better live than on album (well, apart from them not doing the harmonies live, but we've had a word about that, and they promise they'll try) but still, the album is bloody good.

Going Through The Motions (kate), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link

it sounds marginally different to these ears, although i didn't listen carefully. i'm about to get on a train and disappear into the void that is london for the weekend, but i can bung you the MP3s next week if you want.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned and Chris B, have you got this yet?

There's a lot of The Church in here as well as the obvious Shoegaze/Krautrock references. This is why I keep thinking you'd like it.

"Simple Solution" wouldn't be out of place on The Blurred Crusade or Remote Luxury.

Going Through The Motions (kate), Friday, 27 October 2006 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned and Chris B, have you got this yet?

Er um uh. (Meaning, soonish?) Meantime I will be reviewing the Like a Daydream comp for the AMG, roxor.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned and Chris B, have you got this yet?

They sent me a MySpace friend request awhile back that I never got around to answering. I'll give them a listen...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

It's real Delays weather here.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

serious question--does the revival ever end? What's it like in the UK?

Seems like there's a lot more shoegazer/dreampop floating to the surface this year.

The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago) link

It is all kinda eternal at this point. For good/ill.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

never forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xATi5s9-A

hoda nkotb (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think it's going anywhere

saw these guys the other day and quite enjoyed it, though the melodies are a bit weak at times

http://pearlsgirlspearls.bandcamp.com/

Im am... gobsacked (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

lol Ned check this out

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/apr/12/shoegazing-back-in-fashion

The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Saturday, 13 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

It was a great year for shoegazers and dreampop

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

And the new Alcest is just going to drive it even higher next year.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

Shoegaze "was one of the wimpiest genres" of the 1990s. As opposed to "gangsta rap", I suppose.

Sweetfrosti (I M Losted), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes it seems like a lot of the black metal stuff is really just renamed shoegazerz

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:07 (eleven years ago) link

No joke, I pretty much got into black metal via the stuff where the guitars sounded shoegaze-y to me.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

thew new Chambermaids is great....lots of shoegaze stuff/dream/psych stuff in mpls these days
http://chambermaids.bandcamp.com/

Southern Lorde (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

I really dig the new album (never heard the previous one TBH) from The History Of Apple Pie.
This is the first video/single from the album and it's also my favorite song, though I like the whole disc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80Rn843dKI

I wasn't sure what 2014 rolling thread to put this in and I didn't think the band was popular enough to devotre a new thread to so here it is! Hopefully someone likes it...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Previous album was good, haven't heard this new one but I'll check it out!

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

Really enjoyed their first album and looking forward to spending time with this.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link

it's a nice little record - oddly the two singles they preceded it with seem to be the two most out-of-place things on it

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link

mentioned elsewhere but the two most recent album releases on shelflife - hobbes fanclub and luxembourg signal - both have sweetly shoegazey elements in amongst the jangle

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link

and come recommended

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link


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