The Cure S/D

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I've got the first Cure singles collection, and I like bits and pieces a great deal ("Killing An Arab," "Boys Don't Cry," "Jumping Someone Else's Train"), but other than those and their late '80s hits ala Lovesong, I've got no idea what to look for.

Which two or three albums should be first on my list of purchases?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"Seventeen Seconds," "Pornography," "Disintegration."

After that, try "Faith," "The Head On The Door," "Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me." Lather, rinse, repeat as needed.

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't heard 17 seconds in 23 years when i had to go cold turkey or be consumed by it...i wonder how it sounds now?

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i typed The Cure into the search function and came up with 11 threads about them including a S/D. no offense or anything. um, buy everything up to and including Disintegration.

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I went through the S/D category, I figured that the Cure was unsearchable (being four letters).

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

just search under "threads". there are a slew of them.

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i like that track of theirs "olio"

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the next thing on your list of purchases should be the second singles compilation!

After that I'd suggest Three Imaginary Boys (definitely a better buy than Boys Don't Cry if you've already got the first singles comp.) and The Head On The Door.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

17 seconds still sounds as mightily & obsessively dark & depressed as ever, gaz. as fresh as if it had been released today.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 08:48 (twenty-two years ago)

when is the trilogy DVD coming out in the states?
anyone anyone?

kephm, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

It's been out for a few weeks. And it's quite wonderful.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

gracias-DEAR LORD*how did i miss the release date!

kephm, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I also think Bloodflowers is underrated (but listen after you get through the 17 sec/faith/pornography stretch; those are more important.)

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Carnage Visors

I was a fan all the way up to Disintegration, but the Faith-era material still reigns supreme in my book.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're going to do bloodflowers at all, DON'T do it right after 17 seconds/faith/pornography as it doesn't stand up.

Zora (Zora), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It most certainly does! The only real creative misstep The Cure has made is _Wild Mood Swings_ and that's from the "mostly okay witch a couple of brilliant songs and a couple of horrible ones" point of view, ie it's an ordinary album from an extraordinary band.

Based on your reaction to the singles, I would strongly recommend _Three Imaginary Boys_/_Boys Don't Cry_ (they're really the same album). Most of their albums are urgent and key, but since you seem to be responding more to their early period I'd focus on _Seventeen Seconds_, _Faith_ and _Pornography_ for now.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to agree on the Wild Mood Swings comments. Although I own the CD, I haven't listened all the way through it since about 1998, and probably won't fire it up for several years. I still wouldn't sell it though ;)

blutroniq (blutroniq), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It has "Want" on it = damn right you're not selling it. If you're willingly listening to "Mint Car," though, I cry.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Certain songs on _Wild Mood Swings_ only work live (I'm thinking specifically of "Round And Round And Round" and "This Is A Lie"). Others were intially sparkly and wonderful but later became really, really awful to my ears ("Strange Attraction", "Numb"). Others are just flat-out brilliant ("Want", "The 13th", "Jupiter Crash", "Treasure", "Trap", "Bare", "Gone!").

Then there's the unholy one-two combo of "Mint Car" and "Return". Given a choice between hearing those two songs again and getting jabbed in the eyes with sticks, I'd listen to the songs BUT I'd have to spend several minutes thinking about it first.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

++"Killing An Arab," "Boys Don't Cry," "Jumping Someone Else's Train")...Which two or three albums should be first on my list of purchases?

i say pick up: kiss me kiss me kiss me.
its a long?double album, more ash for your cash at least..

if you just want the early punkish stuff (boys dont cry, jumping.., killing an arab) pick up 'boys dont cry' & maybe a buzzcocks album

take wild mood swings & hang it on your rearview- g thing. dowload the live version of "want" (& "push) from the 2000 tour.

kephm, Thursday, 26 June 2003 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm.. paradoxically, 'Return' is probably the only song off WMS that has grown me. As mentionned up thread, a lot of the songs which I liked initially (or convinced myself to like) really quickly grew stale: ie. 'Numb', 'Jupiter Crash' and esp. 'Want' (which I really cant't stand anymore).
Fave is by far 'the 13th' and 'Trap' is pretty cool too. They should more stuff in that basic-rock style.
'Strange Attraction' reigns supreme in the Worst Cure Song category.

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 June 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The "we're all spinning" line almost makes me like "Return" but then that keyboard riff drops in and I want to jump out of a window.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 June 2003 07:22 (twenty-two years ago)

well what drew me into it is the guitar sound on it (way too low in the mix but still..) and finding myself humming to the horns

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 June 2003 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)

when is the trilogy DVD coming out in the states?
anyone anyone?

Jesus. Fuck. I missed this too.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ChainofFlowers/TrilogyRecto.jpg

This looks amazing - I knew one day there'd be a reason to invest in a DVD player...

Buy this, Milo, and if not, do what others have already suggested and get hold of something along the lines of Seventeen Seconds, Pornography, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me and Disintegration for the time being. And Galore (the second singles comp) too!

Bloody hell, The Cure eh? Splendid.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 26 June 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

This looks amazing

You have no idea. There are a slew of performances on there that I would happily and without hesitation describe as definitive, even better than the original studio recordings.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, as the man says above, esp. the whole of 'Disintegration'

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

OH MY GOD the _Disintegration_ Set is breath-taking. It almost made me change my mind about "Closedown"! And "Last Dance" is just... wow.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 June 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

And then there are those encores...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

While we're at it, the Cure working with Ross Robinson, C/D?

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Curious is my thought. But Robinson was going on in various interviews how he hated the nu-metal beast he whelped so we'll see if he's improved his approach any.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm mostly excited by the fact that they've pledged to leave total control over their sound to a real producer. I think it's really time for them to bring an outsider to the mix. Also, I have a feeling that in some respects R. Smith has become his own worse enemy (in terms of producing, editing and paqckaging)

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I think you are underrating Wild Mood Swings. Even the songs on it you don't like are OK by me: 'Strange Attraction', for instance. 'Return' is, I think, mediocre, but has a good understated guitar solo. Perhaps 'Jupiter Crash' is the highlight.

One thing that I don't understand is that the Cure were meant to split at the end of 2000: how come they're still touring and releasing live LPs?

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, The Cure was meant to split up in 1985. It's become a running joke for the band. (When the band finally does end it will cause fan-denial that will make the Richey Manic thing look tame.)

I might be underrating _WMS_ but only slightly, as I said, it's a good album that seems worse when compared to the other Cure albums (which range from amazing to astonishing for me).

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, The Cure was meant to split up in 1985. It's become a running joke for the band. (When the band finally does end it will cause fan-denial that will make the Richey Manic thing look tame.)
Kinda like the "Elvis is still alive!" thing you see in the Tabloids?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, exactly.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone hear of the unreleased track"all i have to do is kill her" maybe it is on "carnage visors" (the one cure item i do not own) anyways i dwl'd a(the?) live track from 82, 83?. it is a classic 10minute song.

kephm, Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It is classic, but not as classic as "See The Children".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

ive never heard "see the children". is that on carnage visors? bootleg? mang!

kephm, Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It's an Easy Cure demo ("Carnage Visors" is just one 28 minute long track that was the soundtrack to a film they used on the Faith tour as their opening act). You ought to be able to find it for download pretty easily via Soulseek, Kazaa or WinMX.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Let us not forget the 'Happy Birthday Simon' take of "Forever" or the 'Fuck Robert Palmer' version of "A Forest" or "Ariel" or...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 June 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm. as has been discussed on another thread recently, some of the best versions of "Forever" appear on the Curiosity Tape. 'All Mine' and that '84 version are mind-blowing. The sound of the former, so.. frosty.. is really amazing..

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, 27 June 2003 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)


fyi( but you peeps are prolly aware)


Trilogy Easter Eggs
On Disc 1

Go to the Disintegration set menu, highlight Plainsong, and click to
the left. Click on that and see a split screen version of Plainsong
from both nights, shot by Robert's handheld camera.

Still on the Disintegration set menu, highlight Same Deep Water As You,
and click to the left. Click on that and watch Same Deep Water As You
from the "Robertcam" (much like the Sinkingcam on the Dream Tour).

On Disc 2

Go to the Interview menu, highlight End Of An Era?, and click to the
left. Click on that and you get some outtakes from the interviews.

kephm, Friday, 27 June 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The version of Grinding Halt with the "Desperate Journalist" lyrics is pretty funny (and it's still to be correctly transcribed onto the net, having searched on google).

flowersdie (flowersdie), Friday, 27 June 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks kephm.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 27 June 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey mister a review
A word for salad
Is written by my friend
In penman

He uses long words
Like semiotics and semolina
But I counted
With
Enigma and metropolis

The lads go rampant on insignificant symbolism
And compound this with rude soulless obliqueness

Everything's coming to a grinding halt
I use such long words

It's all clever stuff
All this charming childish fiddling about aims for the anti-image
But it naturally creates the perfectly malleable image

Tantalizing enigma
Of the Cure
They try to take
Everything

But the Cure really
They're just trying to sell us something
Their product is more artificial than most
This is perhaps part of their
Masterplan
But it seems more like their naivity

Everything's coming to a grinding halt
Everything's coming to a grinding halt
Everything's coming to a grinding halt

Note how really songs what are made of (?)
Murk and marshes
Tawdry images
Inane realisations
Dull dull dull epigrams
Sometimes they sound like an avant-garde John Otway
Or an ugly spirit

Toy drumming
Sprightly bass
Limited guitar riff

Check the sheet out of my favorite book

People don't forget the penman
It's just that in 1979 people shouldn't be allowed to get away with things like this

I say.

scott seward, Friday, 27 June 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"Ian Penman", surely.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Friday, 27 June 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

haha cf also "the lonesome death of ian penman" by the soft boys!!

(he is neither desperate nor lonesome nor dead)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 27 June 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Just picked up that Trilogy DVD today and watched the whole thing in one sitting. I am not a fanatical Cure fan by any stretch, but this has got to be the best concert video I've ever seen.

My appreciation of them has just gone up another notch. This is a must buy for any semi-serious Cure fan. It makes stuff like "Mint Car" all the more puzzling. And hell, is Simon Gallup the coolest fookin bass player ever, or what?

blutroniq (blutroniq), Sunday, 29 June 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
I'm kinda late to the punch, but wish is my favorite album. Everyone always says that their early stuff is their best, but its so sparse. wish is a keeper front to back. disintergration as well.

anthony, Tuesday, 22 July 2003 05:53 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
just put on disintergration for the first time in a while. i really listened to the cure far too much when i was 17. this is completely excusable because they made a sizable amount of fantastic music, but it was basically all i listened to for a while, and i guess i just overloaded on their music. so i havent listened to them that much in the last few years following that, and now its am blown away again! wow! the opening to plainsong is still one of the most unexpectedly beautiful things ever isnt it? seventeen seconds is definately going on after this too.

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 1 January 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Seek: "Head On The Door", "Faith", "17 Seconds" and the oh-so-underrated "Japanese Whispers" and "Wild Mood Swings"

Destroy: Nothing in particular. I see "Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me" as their weakest album, but that one contains such great tracks as "Just Like Heaven" and "Catch" and it would be too bad to destroy those.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 1 January 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I have been listening to the B-side: 'I'm Cold', 'Happy The Man', 'The Exploding Boy' - terrific. But my favourite all remains the magnificent 'A Few Hours After This': so moving!

I also like the way the B-sides echo the A-sides' sounds so clearly.

the snowfox, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

'New Day' not so good, though!

the snowfox, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Fine choices all, those B-sides. Robert S. sez that the echoing is very intentional, which I like -- it lends the singles a certain quality all their own. The compare/contrast of "Primary"/"Descent" is particularly clear, both being bass-instead-of-guitar/bass songs.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

"New Day" is totally gorgeous!

Dan (Except For Some Of The Singing) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, 'New Day' is the Cure's finest moment.

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

I put on Faith the other day for the first time in maybe 20 yrs and was very underwhelmed. I recall pornography as being much better but no longer own it. The first album and much later stuff are superb.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I put on Faith the other day for the first time in maybe 20 yrs and was very underwhelmed.

?!?! Actually, did you hear the remaster or not?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's the original LP. hope they turned that flange down.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

You'll decide when you hear it. And you will.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I really love The Top and The Head on the Door-era b-sides. "Happy The Man" is probably in my Cure top 10.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Throw Your Foot" and "A Man Inside My Mouth" make me so happy. Who could hate those?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

"Happy The Man" is the Cure's finest moment.

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I sense sudden shifts in the wind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, "Throw Your Foot" does whimsy better than most of the stuff on The Top.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

'Throw Your Foot' is not the Cure's finest moment, though.

the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Ocean" and "Home" remain their most underrated B-sides.

Dan (Especially "Ocean") Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Urgh... I think I debated this with deX! at the time, but from that era "Pink Dream" and "It used to be me" are miles better.
"Happy the Man" and "New Day" remain their finest moments though.

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

What about the Wish B-sides? I remember liking one or two of those.

the snowfox, Monday, 28 November 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

"This Twilight Garden" = magic.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, "Play" and "Twilight Garden" are up there with the best.
xp

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

There's nothing underrated about "Play" and "This Twilight Garden"! Everyone loves them (as they should because they are awesome and, with "High", probably make up the best single-as-total-package that they've ever released).

Dan ("Pink Dream" Has NOTHING On "Home", Just Admit It) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yup. I still own the battered "High" cassingle.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Echoing all the "High" love. Robert himself sez "This Twilight Garden" is one of the best songs he's ever done.

I'd say that the "Fascination Street" single comes close as total package, in that the long mix of the song is great, "Babble" is astounding chaos and "Out of Mind" -- especially the remastered version on the box set -- is just flat out insane.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

The only serious challenger I can think of is the "Quadrapus" EP: "Close To Me" remix, "A Man Inside My Mouth", "Stop Dead", "New Day". ("The Walk" EP is in third place because "The Upstairs Room" isn't as strong a song as it should be.)

Dan (And The "Lovesong" 12" Is Fourth) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Good lord, now I wanna hear the box set again and I JUST DID THAT ON FRIDAY.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, just play The Scream reissue instead; it's a better album than Three Imaginary Boys and it's got "Metal Postcard" and "Mirage" on it.

Dan (And "Switch" And "The Staircase" And So On) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I think that "The Exploding Boy" >> "Inbetween Days", in a rare case of the b-side sounding exactly like the a-side, except BETTER.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, just play The Scream reissue instead

Yes yes, but it is at home where I am not.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I think that "The Exploding Boy" >> "Inbetween Days", in a rare case of the b-side sounding exactly like the a-side, except BETTER.

You think that because "The Exploding Boy" IS better than "Inbetween Days".

Dan (Only "Mint Car" Is More Outclassed By Its B-Sides) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Great thought, Mind In Rewind! Though I'm not sure I dare endorse such daring thinking for long.

Anyway, I still like 'A Few Hours After This' more than either of them. Do I? Maybe I do!

the snowfox, Monday, 28 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

one day, i plan to write a ballet that lasts the length of "a few hours after this", set entirely behind the bar of a local village pub. i can see bar staff weaving in and out of each other, swooping up to use the optics, the stop-start nature of the song precipitating jerky but elegant arm movements...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say that the "Fascination Street" single comes close as total package, in that the long mix of the song is great, "Babble" is astounding chaos and "Out of Mind" -- especially the remastered version on the box set -- is just flat out insane.

ummm...here the UK/US divide is shown...those were the lullaby b-sides here in engerland! thus making the uk 12" of lullaby perhaps my favourite cure release evah!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think their best "single package" is Just Like Heaven/Breathe/A Chain Of Flowers followed closely by Inbetween Days/Exploding Boy/A Few Hours After This and Lovesong/2Late/Fear Of Ghosts.

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't it "Just Like Heaven"/"Snow In Summer"/"Sugar Girl"?

Dan (Those Are The "Catch" B-Sides) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yes but in North America "Catch" wasn't a single so we got them with "Just Like Heaven.

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

You think that because "The Exploding Boy" IS better than "Inbetween Days".

So OTM. Finally someone admits it.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think the only Cure singles (with real B-sides, not live tracks or remixes) in existence where I don't like (at least one of) the B-sides more than the A-sides are "Just Like Heaven" and "alt.end"/"Taking Off".

Dan (Also "The 13th", Depending On My Mood) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'd agree with you mostly except there is also "Boys Don't Cry", "A Forest", "Primary", "Charlotte Sometimes", "The Caterpillar", and "Fascination Street".

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

"Plastic Passion" pwns "Boys Don't Cry".
"Another Journey By Train" pwns "A Forest".
"Descent" is just as good as "Primary", so I'll grant you that one.
"Splintered In Her Head" pwns "Charlotte Sometimes".
"Throw Your Foot" pwns "The Caterpillar".
"Babble" and "Out Of Mind" pwn "Fascination Street". (NA version, natch)

Dan (I Fell In Love With Them Because Of The B-Sides) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Well The Cure have some of the best B-Sides ever so I agree it's a tough call.

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray!

I just realized -- I'm wearing my Cure tour shirt from 1992, from the Rose Bowl show. And a fine show it was...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ned Raggett, reprezent! Ahh the memories...

"Descent" is just as good as "Primary", so I'll grant you that one.
"Splintered In Her Head" pwns "Charlotte Sometimes".

This is whack. I say the 'Lovesong' b-sides own the a-side, same for all the Wish b-sides and most of the Wild Mood Swings one (except "The 13th" which is k-klassik)

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

2 late (and Fear of Ghosts for that matter), This Twighlight Garden and Halo piss over their respective a sides. Descent is pretty dull. Good call on the 'Catch' b sides. Splintered in her head is fantastic. Did they ever do it live?

flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

Spintered was always played during the Pornography tour. A bit boring live

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

greatest hits 1
greatest hits 2
wish
kiss me , kiss me , kiss me.
dintgreation

retroboy, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

Search: 'The Big Hand'?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, yes. Wasn't that 12" remix of A Letter to Elise disappointing?

flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Seek out: 17 Seconds or Faith. Pornography if you want them at their gothiest. Japanese Whispers if you like (relatively) bouncy electropop. Disintegration is also good; a somewhat more polished Cure than the early works, though it has some beautiful tracks ("Lovesong", for example, and "Lullaby" is like a Tim Burton movie in pop-song form, though don't neglect the title track and the last track).

Destroy: anything after Disintegration, really, with the exception of the odd EP ("The Big Hand", one of the B-sides from the Wish era, is rather nice). Certainly avoid Bloodflowers: it's a tedious exercise in laboured rehashing of half-remembered angst, all the songs stretched out to boring stadium-rock numbers with excessive guitar solos, and Robert Smith's vocals sounding particularly leaden.

acb (acb), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Destroy: anything after Disintegration, really

You're fired. (Please to see above for various gently forceful repudiations.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

a somewhat more polished Cure than the early works, though it has some beautiful tracks

This is maybe the most asinine thing I've read today, and I just spent some time reading a thread where someone was asking if it was wrong to masturbate in front of a baby.

Dan (Cognitive Dissonance Throwdown) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

come on, check out Lullaby and Lovesong, man!

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

I adore the first song on *Bloodflowers*

the pinefox, Sunday, 15 February 2009 11:01 (sixteen years ago)

thinking of it makes me think of croissants

the pinefox, Sunday, 15 February 2009 11:02 (sixteen years ago)

I'm all about the second and penultimate tracks of that album, but I haven't really given the first one much of a chance yet

there's no antivote to (country matters), Sunday, 15 February 2009 13:38 (sixteen years ago)

"Out Of This World" is a gorgeous song but my fave from that album is "The Loudest Sound".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Sunday, 15 February 2009 13:39 (sixteen years ago)

I no longer believe that "39" wastes the potential of its first two minutes. I think it's pretty damn good all the way through.

there's no antivote to (country matters), Sunday, 15 February 2009 13:41 (sixteen years ago)

OK, now that I remember what it's called, 'Out Of This World' must actually be one of my very favourite of all Cure songs ever.

It was such a surprise, so breezy and easy, hurt and battered yet cruising, an amazing achievement by that point, I thought, as I first played the CD. It's always seemed to me to have something the earlier work didn't have (maybe just more time, more perspective), while being totally true to it. And the instrumentation, the endless gliding guitar all the way through and the harmonizing pianos that chime in later - as sweet as anything I can think of by this band.

the pinefox, Sunday, 15 February 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)

It is kind of too bad that The Curr squandered so much capital with the relentless mediocrity of WMS because they really have put out some fantastic stuff since then that no one seems to want to give a chance. Both The Cure and 4:13 Dream contain some fantastic songs but I feel like half the people who hear them don't actually listen to them; they just go "oh a Cure song, LOL they old now" and shut off their ears.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Sunday, 15 February 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)


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