The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

I wouldn't take the word of anyone who can't actually get their facts right - Goodge was BASSIST, not vocalist.

Improvise yer ass outta here, funhater!

or maybe that's something that's just required in the American Midwest...

oi!

I deal in facts. you deal in myths.

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

seems roughly equal to "I will spin it positively for the subculture I like, and negatively for the one I don't" - if indie is "dead," then free jazz has decomposed. I happen to like both so whateveh, but I just wanted to say.

(but actually, indie is not that much of a 'subculture' anymore whereas 60s jazz and free improv (there is a distinction here btw), despite being older, has more of that, but that doesn't matter)

http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1431220.html

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/

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Kevin Shields
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Age:
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Occupation:
Recording artist & dyslexia spokesman

Location:
United Kingdom

Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland

Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!

Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones

Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.

About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.

Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!

When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

I must achieve my breakthrough.

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/news/boxset.html

http://metroencoding.net/emperornorton/ref/kevinshields_city-girl_320x180_large-REF.mov

what on earth is he going to play?

"The Coral Sea 0 Text: Patti Smith Music: Patti Smith, Kevin Shields, Cat Power (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 22 June)"

I am so FUCKING there.

Ohh shit should I start a thread here trawling for questions here for Mr. Shields, or is that redundant?

I tried trawling through here for ideas for the book a year ago and it all just seemed so redundant to type "Loveless" in the search engine, since almost every single thread came up! Hah.

What I REALLY need is help tracking down any of the people who worked on the album (esp. any of the 57 engineers) now that I got my "high quality" (hah) VOIP on and can make free phone calls to the UK...

I'm greatly interested in your book, Michael. Do you have a title for it?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826415482

Glad to hear that the 33-1/3 book on Loveless is well under way -- been waiting for that one. Sorry, can't think of any good questions off the top of my head, only idiotic/boring ones.

Question two: Really?

Also, have you talked or will you be talking to Bilinda, Colm, and/or Debbie? I'd be interested to hear what they have to say about the album at this point.

Except for those drums, which haunt me in their determinate sincerity. What the hell is it about them that just...stays there? Do they anchor the music or do they ground it? Because there's something about the rest of it all that feels so fucking free. But those drums -- they bring it all back down to earth, as if sound were not indeterminate at all. As if it were very much finite.

The thing about Loveless is that is should be anything I want it to be. But it isn't.

Uh, I'm probably not fucking there. As the effect of that potent little cup of Chantico™ wanes, it becomes clear that spending a thousand bucks or so basically just to go to one show is too insane at this point even for me, even to see two of my personal top five living artists (one of whom is in some sort of weird career limbo and whom I'll likely never get to see perform) on a stage together, probably for the only time ever. SOB. Somebody had better bootleg this, is all. Horses haters note: no one will have to "sit through" anything; see the schedule.

(However! When I got up yesterday I had perfect indie-rock bedhead, requiring no human intervention whatsoever, for the first and undoubtedly last time in my life. I'll take my karmic consolation prizes where I can find them.)

could be funny if Chan Marshall flakes onstage though, and Smith has to reprimand and corral her mid-set

so at the risk of being a credulous fool...

a boozy friend accosted shields over the weekend and he claimed the new mbv record was totally finished and he would be getting the gang together to tour it imminently. This pretty much tallies with the account of a mutual acquaintance who worked with the man 6 months or so ago. so maybe either ksheilds is a delusional tease or we might be getting some shinynewmbv. Has anyone heard anything that might corroborate this either way?

I reckons he says that to everyone who asks, every time, for the past five years...

He's been too busy hanging out at Sonic Cathedrals, celebrating himself, to record an album!

http://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/drudge%20siren.gifksheilds is a delusional teasehttp://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/drudge%20siren.gif

precisely! he's been out and about a lot lately so maybe he has something to celebrate. he claimed that all the mbvers had been contacted and were pretty much ready to start rehearsing.

And once they've had nine years' of rehearsals, they should be ready to hit the road.

i'm only interested if dave conway is involved

No, see, he's totally telling the truth, it's just that Kevin Shields perceives time on a geological- nay, an astronomical scale.

Hmmmm...

http://www.myspace.com/mybloodyvalentine

Please note it also links to this, registered with no content as yet:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.co.uk/

;-D

i will have some news to share with you soon!!!

well, it's a start...still, '92 was a long time ago, in so many ways...

i will have some news to share with you soon!!!

Yay the news! (Vinita J. co-runs the myspace site and is on the level, known her for a decade now, so i figure something's up.)

Henry S is right, though. Still, we will see.

man you guys are suckers

All those mid-90s "he's really into jungle" and "he's really into speed metal" rumors created this expectation that if MBV did suddenly return, it'd be with something completely mind-blowing and out-of-nowhere -- an impression his sheer long absence seemed to back up. ("If he's been holed up working on something for this long, it MUST be because it's going to be as next-level amazing as Loveless was!") ... But given the remix work he's done lately, and his general involvement with the same sorts of people and sounds and trends as before, some grand new shift seems less and less likely. And while I wouldn't mind hearing new work or collaborations or whatever that just kinda follow the same path as before, the thought isn't actively exciting, or anything.

You are dead inside.

reunions suck

I'm perfectly happy with him making killer Primal Scream remixes and fiddling around with sdtks or whatever - who needs a filthy lucre-style reunion tour with his pudgy mug playing Do You Realise for 30 minutes yet again

I'd be pretty pissed if he played Flaming Lips songs as well.

haha sorry You Made Me Realize

I'm looking at it like the Velvet Underground reunion (as their dormant period is now about the same amount of time). It's a chance to see them all on the same stage again before they start dying.

it's a better world with *that* guitar and *those* vocals in it...in any form, really...

didn't VU reunite about 25 years after they split?

Part of me is still surprised that Bilinda has never had any kind of Beth Gibbon / Hope Sandoval / Martina Topley-Bird type semi-solo collaboration album. I guess the obvious difference is that people aren't all in love with Bilinda's voice in particular, but still.

I used to see Colm O'Cloisig around town DJing and whatnot - guess he recently moved to LA.

didn't VU reunite about 25 years after they split?

19 Years. 17 if you include Lou and John's "Songs For Drella".

Actually wiki says they all played together in 1990, so 17 years I guess.

I hate to say it but I think Shakey's right. There are suckers here.

http://www.thedailyswarm.com/swarm/believe-it-or-not-my-bloody-valentine-reuniting-for-coachella-2008/

the peel session, for those that don't have it.

http://chunklet.com/

thanks for posting that, dandy! i have this session, but these versions are much higher quality

anything for The Cause, dude.

But now some tantalizing hints have emerged in the past few weeks that suggest the band is finally gearing up for a return to action. In July, several fans reported encounters with Shields at Primal Scream and Dinosaur Jr. shows in England, Ireland, and Russia, each returning with the same story: that Shields very matter-of-factly spoke of My Bloody Valentine in the very present tense. The fans reported Shields said that two new My Bloody Valentine releases are in the works – an anthology of unreleased 90s material and an album of brand new studio recordings – along with the imminent release of remastered versions of the band’s original studio work. He is also reported as saying, on several different occasions, that a 2008 tour is in the works that will feature the band’s original lineup. (Read some of the reports here, here, and here.) Furthermore, in an interview published earlier this year in Magnet magazine, Shields was adamant about the band’s return: “We are 100% going to make another My Bloody Valentine record unless we die or something,” he said.

WoW, thanks Mike!

Must... not... get... hopes up.

I'll believe it when my ears are bleeding.

I'm kicking myself I missed the only tour they did here previously (1991 or 92 I think? Maybe 1990?). I could have gone to 2 diff shows and didnt. Gah! What was I thinking.

if you are in the US then that tour was in 1992.

...saw them twice in three nights.

I'll be just happy with archival recordings, really.

I was in Aus but it might have been the same tour.

Ned for some reason I see you saying that from a comfy chair with a blanket on your knee, dusting off an old vinyl copy of "Ecstacy and Wine" with a wistful smile.

Jokes on you. I don't have a copy of that.

;_;

I do but it's totally worn out (by the previous owner unfortunately) - record looks lovely and shiny and unscratched, but you play it and argh it sounds like shit :( Maybe they played it with a reeeally worn out needle or something.

I found a brand new (well, it was sealed and unplayed) vinyl copy of Ecstacy and Wine (that's the compilation, isn't it?) in a shop in Barcelona 2 years ago. I went there last year and they still had brand new copies in stock.

On the one hand I'm very sceptical about all this, and in the other I'm counting pennies for a flight to SF.

sister ray had cd copies for £19.99 just before they moved. still on Lazy. bootlegs i guess.

I'm counting pennies for a flight to SF.

except cochella is near LA

Ace. Will that be mean more or less pennies to count?

Gah, it's never going to happen. The gig or my money saving.

I saw them play at the Old Melbourne Hotel in Perth. Not a big room, so at some stage during proceedings we suddenly realised that we were alone in the middle of the room and that most of the audience were actually pressed up against the back wall.

I heard that Perth gig was somewhat bizarre, the noise and feedback were bad rather than good, from dim memories of reviews of the time. People leaving with hands over ears and etc.

That was a typical reaction for many.

I loved it of course.

The one I went to, people walked out of the half-full(!) Moore Theater in Seattle. Me and Michael Stipe, standing behind me, made it through without earplugs. Fond memories.

Sounds like the Mogwai gig I went to a few years back. *Intense* noise, but not so it hurt the ears, it just enveloped the whole body. I was half deaf for days.

xpost: I WAS THERE

All right, so I can't resist self-promotion:

Then "You Made Me Realize" started, and I thought to myself, "OK, I am going to take an exact measure of the time here as soon as they start the chord." They began, I noted my watch, and then waited to see what would happen.

They kept playing, of course. From my perspective it was quite fun, guessing who knew what was forthcoming and who had no idea. I could see the clumps at the foot of the stage, people all crammed in, but they were starting to fray a bit towards the edge as the chord kept hammering out. I just watched and nodded and let my mind drift.

They kept playing at fifteen minutes. I was exhausted already, sure, but not completely trashed, so I was happily into the feeling being generated, the combination of repetition and minisecond strum and maximum volume. (Shields again, from our interview: "The (show) in Los Angeles, it was a shame, because it wasn't loud. . . . Loud in a caustic way, but not in a low-frequency way, not in the stomach way. In the ears, yeah. I think we definitely tried to push that as far as we could ever push it. But I think in the future I want to make it a lot more physical, in a body way.")

They kept playing at twenty-five minutes. I swear I saw people literally staggering towards the exit, just having to leave, not being able to stand another second of it. But then I also saw people moving forward, almost as if they couldn't be controlled-moths to the flame.

I had a version of this d/l from whenever. I think it was 15 mins.

Where it is now, though, who knows. It was from Audiogalaxy...

Hahah yeah that is what happened at Mogwai too (they played "My Father My King" and did a similar 20-minute earsplitting drone chord). I would LOVE to experience YMMR in the same way (as long as the mix wasnt that painful treble that kills ones ears).

xpost

I just read that in the Marooned book, Ned.

Good job.

That book made me finally go out and buy Transient Randome Noise Bursts, after I had decided that I needed no more Stereolab.

I'll believe it when my ears are bleeding.

OTM.

Wait a minute - Trayce you are on to something - Ecstasy & Wine, that's the album I've been trying to remember the name of for awhile now. I kept getting confused when I heard the song "Strawberry Wine" again. Thanks for clearing that up in my memory. I can't figure out exactly what happened to that. I'm not sure if I still have that LP now or not. Or if I don't, why. Oh, I'll have to check my stacks.

Nope I don't have it. And I don't know why. It must have been because my mother couldn't see well enough to read the cover of it when she was going through that section of vinyl with me on the phone.

And yet I still keep getting this eerie feeling that I've heard it recently. I don't get it. Alright, well maybe I downloaded and don't remember but I never made a folder for it so I don't understand how I could have even heard half of it.

Ha! Good lord this is weird, I'm actually drinking strawberry wine right now, if you can believe that. Completely unintentionally coincidental. Last time I drank this stuff was a year ago.

I heard that the reason they've been gone for so long is that they've been playing the chord from the middle of You Made Me Realise for 8 years

I wonder how long someone could listen to that at great volume before they went mad/deaf.

Oh that was the other thing I was going to say was that the one time I saw them live, there the loudest band I ever saw aside from Swans on the Children of God tour.

Good loud rather than "ow my freakin ears!" loud I trust! :)

Well, I suppose so. I'm afraid the gig doesn't stick out in my mind a whole lot, but I remember enjoying it well enough.

If you "started" with "Isn't", and went backwards, album/single stepping, how far back until you'd say "this isn't them is it?"

"...the noise and feedback were bad rather than good..."

At the time, I definitely went with "good", but in hindsight "bad" would be the better description.

I hadn't been so physically assaulted by music since seeing the Beasts of Bourbon at Metropolis in Fremantle - when it was still called 'Cargoes'! The old timber floor of the band room proved highly conductive to Brian Hooper's bass in particular, with Kim Salmon and Spencer Jones' guitars not far behind.

I honestly thought my sternum was going to explode.

I'm pretty sure they will not only do Coachella, but also other festivals in Europe next summer.

Ha ha, they'll probably end up doing a "secret gig" at Sonic Cathedral. *Then* I could die happy.

"It's definitely happening"

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/08/my-bloody-valen.html

ITS DEFINITELY HAPPENING
Don't call it a comeback: MBV

I hope they *dont* do that long version of You made me realise.

Oh, I know, I know, you want to subject yourself and all that, to the coming-of-age ritual and all that.

It's just there's so much they could play in that time, why blot all that out w/15 mins of it? There would be more stunnage if they did the 3 mins 30 version. and ha.

I once saw a Crosby, Stills & Nash show where the power went out and they had to do the whole thing unplugged...would love for this to happen to MBV...

I'm going to continue to refuse to believe it is happening. More linx please.

from mybloodyvalentine.net:

"Kevin's manager can only confirm that Kevin is currently remastering their albums as well as the rest of the Creation Records back a catalog I would imagine because this has been rumoured lately as well."

someone should break it gently to kevin that the process of mastering consists of a bit more than staring into space

Hahaha.

Bahahahah

I'm going to continue to refuse to believe it is happening. More linx please.

http://www.maxwaugh.com/images/nwtrek06/lynx4.jpg

Here we go again...

Via Pitchfork:

"...So what did we learn today? That My Bloody Valentine are indeed back together in some configuration or another. That they've recorded new material. That they have at least two releases on the way, one of which may very well come out this year. And, last but not least, that Loveless has a follow-up and IT WILL SOON TOUCH THE EARS OF HUMANKIND."

Damn, I searched for My Bloody Valentine on the front page, not MBV. Disregard.

wake me when its leaked

"[The new album is] going to be this 96/97 half-finished record finished, and then a compilation of stuff we did before that in 1993–94, and a little bit of new stuff.

Not exactly a *new* album.

it would have been cooler if they went all crazy like scott walker but i picture them going dull as dishwater like kraftwerk

This is not going to happen and we all know it.

haha

Oh can't you see
I believe I believe I believe

<i>The Boy Who Tremelo'd Wolf</i>

IT WILL SOON TOUCH THE EARS OF HUMANKIND
i can't help myself but their concept of the word "soon" reminds me a little of christian eschatology. in the meantime (before judgement day) i think i will listen to their cover of "we have all the time in the world" again. a perfect swan song if there ever was one.

This is not going to happen and we all know it.
http://www.kino-govno.com/trailers/3432t.jpg
http://www.firstshowing.net/img/eastern-promises-trlr.jpg

Amazon.com: Reviews for Loveless: Music: My Bloody Valentine

All Hype, September 7, 2006
Reviewer: Robert J. Bruce (Angola, New York United States) - See all my reviews

I bought this album because I am so into Sigur Ros at the moment and it seems all the reviews I read say that "...if you like Sigur Ros you will like MBV.." Let me say this album is no where near a Sigur Ros experience.

and thank fuck for that

poor misguided soul:(

Hahaha.

;_;

Someone make a gif of the Viggo thing.

Okey so there's tickets released on Friday then.

http://www.teletext.co.uk/entertainment/music/news/7/MBV+play+gigs+Wow!.aspx

London, Manchester & Glasgow next summer

kinda surprised there isn't more excitement about this!

i hope some US dates follow.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they played Coachella first.

I don't think my ears could take it now. They barely could at 23.

????!

i'm pretty damn excited, i'll be getting roundhouse tickets

if they do cochella i'll hold out hope for an SF date around the same time since Colm still lives up here

Unmissable.

> I don't think my ears could take it now. They barely could at 23.

i have just bought a nice pair of ear plugs. not sure i could take the boredom of YMMR though...

So, London NedFAP in June 2008 then?

Astounding!

I'm pretty much willing to bet April show at Coachella at this point. In which case, I finally go to Coachella and y'all can fly out here instead. As it stands otherwise the lovely weak American dollar and all is giving me pause.

if they do cochella i'll hold out hope for an SF date around the same time since Colm still lives up here

-- akm, Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:19 AM (48 minutes ago)

there will definitely be US dates (including SF) but Colm is living in LA at the moment.

rumor has it that these will actually be all-acoustic sets

:(

Man, I would like to Colm rocking the bongos.

...with Japancakes as backing band

WAU

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2032275791_8a2fcbf65f_o.jpg

and they haven't changed a bit!

seetickets say they will be selling up to four tickets per person, btw.

kshields interviewed by ian sveonius on annoying vice tv:

http://www.vbs.tv/player.php?bctid=1271951667&bccl=Mjg0OTUyNzA0X19FVEM=&r=teaser

I still see Colm Berkeley once a month. Glad to hear they will be playing out here though. This will actually warrant getting a babysitter, for once

where does ian svenonions get off

ian sevonius is hilarious i love his interviews

What an awful interviewer.

I think the word 'tit' is most appropriate.

Wot?

rumor has it that these will actually be all-acoustic sets

this has to be bullshit, surely?

ian sevonius is hilarious i love his interviews

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:30 (2 hours ago) Link

otm

"Though Shields music transcends language, he was kind enough to use language when he spoke with us"

I didn't think I would be but I'm unfeasibly excited about this - trying for tickets for London and Glasgow.

A year and a half ago this news would have caused me to start screaming, quite literally -- zOMGGGGGGGG!!!!, etc. Now, though, as there is no possible way I can attend any of these shows... Wait. Maybe I can go to Coachella. Fucking hell. You see, I NEVER GOT TO SEE MBV! So YAAAAAAAAOOOOWWWW!

*cough* As you were.

This morning I found that the line "I worked for a while on a fishing boat right outside of Delacroix" can be sung along to Drive it all over me

Just got tickets for the Manchester show - would it be poor form to wear my Loveless T-shirt from the last time they toured? It's a bit old and faded, and has a big hole in it - but still...

Surprise surprise, Seetickets has fallen over. This is like buying Glastonbury tickets all over again.

AND london's sold out

bugger

It had sold out by the time I could get into the website. Ah well.

London show is sold out according to the website, just tried to get 2 tickets.. weirdly I just got an email confirmation addressed to a MR MRCARTNEY saying I had bought 4 tickets to the Manchester show though!

My friend tried to buy some and got this message for London:

9:02 Sorry, there has been a problem with your order

Reason - TICKETS HAVE NOW SOLD OUT (TS2) (R1)

x-post: JINX

Sorry, there has been a problem with your order

Reason - PLEASE CALL 0871 230 0010 TO CHECK ON AVAILABILITY (CTC5) (R1)

Jonbat - I got exactly the same message as you - Mr McCartney, 4 Manchester tickets... I fear we're out of luck...

Haha what a load of cack. I hope this Mr McCartney doesn't end up with thousands of tickets billed to him.

Tickets going on ebay for mad money.

Touts are fucking cunts aren't they?

Utter utter bollocks. I got through at 8.59 but the bloke sent me packing. Impossible to connect their website from then on.

...or their phone line

Manchester sold out.

eBay sellers... 'I am a power seller'. No you're not. You are vermin and you need to be beaten to death.

maybe they'll do a few nights in the style of the sonic youth daydream nation atp thing?

I just got a ticket for the barrowlands, took about 10 mins to get through. Just got my confirmation email, they better not start playing silly buggers and send me another saying it's sold out.

I suspect more dates will be announced. Plenty of time - eight days! - between the London and Mcr shows.

There is a rather convenient 1 week gap between London and Manchester I spy.

Yes, the Roundhouse apparently confirmed to someone on DiS over the phone that they were doing two other nights there.

However, I don't care about that because I managed to get tickets for the currently announced Roundhouse show before See fell over. And yes, my confirmation mail is in my own name.

yeah, in the early 21st century it doesn't take a week to get from london to manchester.

Haha.

Maybe they're just leaving a big gap between dates just so that they can extend You Made Me Realise for just a bit longer. That'll learn all y'all.

I think they played it for like six fucking days the last time round.

Maybe an ATP performance? They're being promoted by ATP concerts...

Ticketmaster.co.uk still has Manchester ones, if anyone's interested.

(at least, I got through to the "We're holding these tickets just for you. Please complete this page within 2:00 minutes. After 2:00 minutes, the tickets we're holding will be released for others to buy." page).

i just SEEM to have got tickets for london thru the roundhouse website, payment went through, haven't had confirmation email yet.

Just bought tickets for the Roundhouse.

So if you see some bloke outside the roundhouse with a ton of tickets and whistling "ebony and Ivory"....

Just been told on the roundhouse website that there are no tickets left

I decided I didn't actually want to go *that* much and should probably let a more deserving case have a ticket instead of me.

But it's probably gone to a tout.

Just bought two for Manchester from Ticketmaster. In the CIRCLE section apparently though.

Me too. Will be selling these if there are more London shows and I can get standing tickets.

[from atp website just now]

MORE LONDON SHOWS ADDED

The Friday June 20 show sold out lightning fast this morning, so we are pleased to announce that additional shows on Saturday June 21 and Sunday June 22 have now been added. Tickets will be available shortly at www.seetickets.com, www.wegottickets.com, www.gigantic.com and www.roundhouse.org.uk

This speed of this announcement stinks of carefully planned marketing but can you really blame those involved? And do I really want to go that much? I do kind of regret not going to see them at Whitley Bay Ice Rink in 1992.

"shortly"?

Maybe they're just leaving a big gap between dates just so that they can extend You Made Me Realise for just a bit longer. That'll learn all y'all.

-- NickB, Friday, 16 November 2007

hahaha.

Tickets for the Friday still keep appearing and disappearing on gigantic.com. A part of me is saying 'walk away, don't get involved'.

Phone seetickets. They're selling now!

For Saturday and Sunday, I mean.

Rad. Just got four four London on the Saturday. Anyone want to buy three seated tickets for Manchester? ; )

And they are on the website now as well. This is vaguely offensive marketing bullshit. ATP should know better.

Got mine too. Yes, slightly annoying, but I forgive them now that my needs have been met. Very clever...

People are still pay £200 for London tickets on eBay.

is it sold out again? it took my details but then said there was a problem with the order and i can't get thru on the phone

They should have booked Knebworth, really!

Try http://gigantic.com/gigantic/home_my_bloody_valentine.html

Only Glasgow left!

this is doing my head in

There are tickets for Sat and Sun on the website in London, but Friday is sold out. However, they are now selling tickets for the Friday on the phone again.

http://www.seetickets.com/see/index.html
0870 389 1846

I suggest everyone relaxes.

However, I'm still umming and ahing as I'm broke and going on holiday tomorrow. Friend bought two for Friday on the phone 2 minutes ago, though, so I'm not lying.

(I have seen them three times anyway, y'know, and the last time wasn't actually that great)

Loads of tickets on ebay now starting at 99p for the Friday, although some still going for £200.

Hahahahaha

eBay ticket touts are scum.

touting should be illegal, srsly

I managed to get tix for the Sunday show, in the end, but not before an awful lot of hassle.

Thanks for Gigantic tip, caek. Got two for Glasgow there no bother. July seems an awful way off.

No problem. Thanks to myopic_void for the extra dates heads-up.

yes, I'd like to second the thanks for the tip-off about the extra dates - they weren't exactly announced were they? Maybe the notoriously stage-frighted Shields is half-hoping that no one turns up.

i picked a bad week to take a break from ILX: knew fuck all about this until very late last thursday night. still: managed to get tix for the second glasgow date, so GET THE FUCK IN!

they're selling monday tickets for the roundhouse now, just got mine

So, seeing as how Led Zeppelin have "Stairway" back in the singles chart due to downloads and the reunion gigs, what price "Soon" going in at 39 with a bullet?

oh man i'd LOVE that. the EP didn't even go top 75 last time.

29 My Bloody Valentine To Here Knows When Feb 1991

Yeah, the Tremelo EP charted, but annoyingly didn't get played on Top of the Pops. It would have been great to see whichever Smashy & Nicey were on duty that week having to grin while introducing a 'song' that sounded like someone whirling a hoover round and round their head. I think the Glider EP *was* top 75, but not top 40.

41, i think

Tommy Vance did the Sunday rundown on Radio 1 the week Tremolo charted; he said, "Amazing atmosphere on that record," as "To Here Knows When" faded out. Bless him.

glider was #40 on the singles charts in Number One magazine back in the day

This appears to be the real thing. I wonder if they will tour outside the UK?

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.co.uk/

My Bloody Valentine confirmed for:

Roskilde Festival (Denmark)
Benicassim - Festival Internacional de Benicassim (Spain)

and according to Pitchfork:

Øya Festival (Oslo, Norway)

I can just picture Ned booking his tickets now!

still plenty of time for this record to never come out

Will wonders cease to never?

but which one?

1. Roskilde - the big European festival in Denmark
2. Sunny Benicassim in Spain by the coast and a trip to nearby Barcelona
3. Øya Festival - festival with a growing international reputation in Oslo and a chance to meet up with Geir and ... Ted Parsons?

Ned vs. Geir: Place your bets!

I can just picture Ned booking his tickets now!

Hardly.

if this was a freebie all expenses trip ..which festival would you select?

US dates announced. http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/50411-my-bloody-valentine-announce-north-american-tour

No info on when tickets go on sale...

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/05/atp_ny_tix_back.html

LA and Toronto on sale Friday - http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/1220959

Harmonia? Okay, that I didn't expect.

The Lilys inclusion brings the roffles. I hope they force them to do In the Presence of Nothing in full.

Santa Monica Civic two nights in a row. Who'd've thought. That 1992 Palace show was only about two-thirds full...

MBV and Dinosaur Jr., together again...memories of City Gardens, Trenton, NJ, 1992...(wonder if Deb Googe has fond memories of that awkward grad student who boldly approached her after the show, gulped, nodded and sheepishly slithered away)...

Someone convince me that the ATP festival is worth it, please. I'm so tempted to say fuck it and buy the tickets, but it's so, so, SO expensive and there aren't THAT many great acts.

And also, is there any place to camp out near the country club or Monticello NY in general? There's no fucking way I can afford the room if I do end up buying tickets.

http://www.google.com/

Reatards Unite, buy the tickets. I just got a pair for my girlfriend and myself, no lodging included. You can figure out the lodging details later on. Sure it's a big fucking nostalgia trip, but it's gonna be a blast regardless. Especially for someone like me, who didn't get to see many of these bands back in the '90s.

and I mean, Harmonia?? as in the Cluster/Neu/Eno related Harmonia? fuuuuuuck that's incredible.

Ned, are you going to LA?

Harmonia reunited in 2007 and performed live for the first time since 1976, opening the Worldtronics Festival at the at Haus der Weltkulturen in Berlin, Germany on November 27, 2007.[1][2]

Harmonia will make their first live appearance in the UK on 18th April 2008. They will play on the opening night of the Ether Festival in the Queen Elizabeth Hall at Southbank Centre, London

Harmonia. Oh man. This is getting more and more tempting.

Saw tickets were on sale for the LA MBV show. Ticketmaster is charging $48.00 (+ undisclosed "convenience" charge). Kevin Shields needs a new pair of shoes.

Yeah, it's tempting. I'd really be interested to find out who the other 9 bands are - that could really make it or break it for me. But of course I may not have time for that.

Oh no, I would expect tickets to sell out in a day or two, max.

and re: Harmonia, this is basically their second live performance since 1976 ??

ah wait, third.

Fuck when does NYC go on sale! I need to set approx. 8 billion reminders.

Chicago on sale Saturday - http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/735716

Saw tickets were on sale for the LA MBV show. Ticketmaster is charging $48.00 (+ undisclosed "convenience" charge).

About what I would expect. Mmf. Still thinking about this.

Chicago is only $38. The problem is that the venue is the Aragon which is an awful place. Poor acoustics, no sight lines. Whatever. Fuck it. I'm there.

Saw tickets were on sale for the LA MBV show. Ticketmaster is charging $48.00 (+ undisclosed "convenience" charge).

About what I would expect. Mmf. Still thinking about this.

-- Ned Raggett, Tuesday, May 6, 2008 2:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

So all fees included, we're talking $65.00 or so? Also, I haven't been to the SMCC since the mid 90's, but I keep hearing bad things about the sound there.

eek thats pricey. i suppose its worth it? i hope they can still rock as good as ive heard they did!

Tickets are not on sale for SMCC yet. I thought I wasn't excited, but I am now.

I'm still (surprisingly?) meh. I don't know. Something about this whole thing feels off.

hooray for two roseland dates.

xpost,

I think it's just the obvious thing of Kevin Shields playing a guitar. I can't imagine a more compelling reason to go out unless it involves Robots in a Pyramid.

That should be the inevitable Snakes on a Plane sequel title!

Built to Spill perfecting things at Joshua Tree, with Camper Van

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/50445-built-to-spill-line-up-tour-add-pre-atp-iperfecti-show

Ned, you oughta at least go to one date. Just so you don't regret it afterwards, if everyone says it was out of this world. C'mon!

Ned, get me a ticket for the second L.A. show. If this ends up happening, I'm coming down for that show. I'll paypal you the $$$ this week.

Chicago roadtrip sounds nice.

Also, I haven't been to the SMCC since the mid 90's, but I keep hearing bad things about the sound there.

The Civic is a big old concrete box with SHIT SHIT SHIT sound. Honestly, I thought they stopped booking shows there long ago - like maybe the early 90s or so. Either way, last show I saw there was Joe Strummer touring for Earthquake Weather.

Honestly, they could combine both shows into the Nokia theater and still sell out.

Something about this whole thing feels off.

I just wish I knew what we were all getting ourselves into before pulling the trigger on tickets. Apart from Kevin's "we aren't playing Coachella because we wouldn't be ready yet" comment there's been zero. Hell, I'd settle for a single blurry cameraphone clip of a rehearsal.

how could this POSSIBLY suck?

Pride goeth.

Mackro and I were talking on the phone just now and yeah, I'll buy tickets and all, but Elvis T. is articulating my thoughts more clearly here.

"it's better to regret something you HAVE done than to regret something you HAVEN'T done, and by the way..."

My Butthole Valentine

And you KNOW that would be brilliant.

Psychic...Pedalless...Another Band's Sac

OK ya if Gibby and Kevin did a jam I would cross continents and pay many dimes to see that. xpost

how could this POSSIBLY suck?

I don't expect it to suck at all - hell, the only thing that's capable of matching the spindizzy going into these shows is Kevin's attention to detail and that's really the only reason why I'm going. What's nagging me though, especially after the ATP announcement (fuck, why don't they go ahead and just put Butthole Surfers and Pavement on the bill) is the predictability of it all. In other words:

"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 1992: "HOLYFUCKINGSHITITSSOLOUDICANTMOVETHINKGAARRAAGGHH"
"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 2008: "Dude it's the part where it gets loud and crazy! I'm going to blog about all this via my iPhone. OK, I'm going to go get a beer"

If I want to hear "Loveless," I can pull out the album anytime. What I really want to see live is the crazy intensity that made their shows so infamous back in the day. I'd be much more excited about things if they loaded up on military-grade infrasonics and began the set by announcing "This is a song we stopped working on in 1994" and broke into a half-hour of demolition jungle.

I don't want museum exhibits!

^ THIS

This is why I didn't bother seeing the Pixies when they toured last year, though it would appear I was remiss in doing so. So I dunno.

yeah you didn't miss much

Well, put it this way: I went and saw the Velvet Underground, and I'm glad I did. It was great at the time, but listen back to the tape and it's underwhelming.

Oh, and by the way, they'll be playing the 7" version of "You made me realise"...

Now that OM has been announced I'm pretty much ready to buy tickets. Another band I've really wanted to see for a bit.

Anyone know if I would be able to sell my tickets if I absolutely needed to? I'll be in school in September and I'm sure I can take a weekend off but just in the event that I couldn't make it. I know they're being pretty strict on scalping and everything which is understandable.

Roseland 9/22 show goes on sale Friday at 10. Ticketing website actually provides an Outlook calendar entry you can download which is all kinds of twisted.

and SF is on sale Sun

http://www.livenation.com/artist/getArtist/artistId/16278/

<i>"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 1992: "HOLYFUCKINGSHITITSSOLOUDICANTMOVETHINKGAARRAAGGHH"
"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 2008: "Dude it's the part where it gets loud and crazy! I'm going to blog about all this via my iPhone. OK, I'm going to go get a beer"</i>

hehehe

I'm definitely (making an attempt at) buying a ticket, but that exactly the thing. They could do that back then and that must have been great, and we're all expecting the same thing now. Whatever they do will be great, but I hope they aren't all stiff. And I hope at Roseland they can blow our brains out with their guitars.

Anyone know if I would be able to sell my tickets if I absolutely needed to?

sold out show + craigslist

I'm listening to the Glider EP right now. It sounds really good.

hah, $52 for Roseland, I'll keep my '92 show memories, I guess.

lucky

I understand the skepticism, but the new Portishead album has completely renewed my faith in formerly great bands that vanish for a decade and return better than ever.

So, they're remastering the albums too now! I have mixed feelings about there being no extra material... On one hand I can still feel proud to have all of the out of print EPs and make my friends jealous, but on the other hand, having those remastered and put on as bonuses would be nice too...

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/50501-my-bloody-valentine-remaster-ilovelessi-iisnt-anythingi

So, assuming i get a ticket to the L.A. show #2:

Given the huge history of failed promises on MBV's part for the last 17 years, I'm going in assuming this MBV reunion will be like the Black Flag reunion, if this happens.

On the other hand, I'll be visiting momz that 4-day weekend. I'll be seeing a whole bunch of friends at the show I haven't seen in ages coming from all over Southern California. And I don't need a ride from a friend for this. I can bus over there and cab back, thanks to this being in Santa Monica. Shrug.

Elvis OTM all over the place, although as a minor counterpoint, I think it will be cool to see the MBV relic in a 2008 audience, even if it's predictable. People will still have reactions they don't expect to the You Made Me Realise blowout -- *if* they do that song -- *if* they manage to actually execute this tour -- *if* etc. Best case scenario is MBV pulling out stuff they never did before, tho.

I'm more concerned about other details, like no comfirmation of Colm being in this, and the fragility of it all, going back to the failed promises thing.

Yes I just saw Big Dipper after their 15+ year hiatus and they were so tight and absolutely rocked. So its possible!

It's official - I'm going to ATP NY. Anyone have any idea how many "batches" of tickets they're going to release?

I look forward to the debate on whether the masters are too loud or not. Seems about 50/50 that they will make them sound worse, judging by how these things usually go.

Reatards Unite, buy the tickets. I just got a pair for my girlfriend and myself, no lodging included. You can figure out the lodging details later on. Sure it's a big fucking nostalgia trip, but it's gonna be a blast regardless. Especially for someone like me, who didn't get to see many of these bands back in the '90s.

-- stephen, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:12 (Yesterday) Link

do you know what the lodging details aside from staying on site are? I only got the tickets too, and was kind of banking on either camping out as close as possible, or uhhh discreetly finding a way to stick around all 3 days. . .

or, of course, the option of finding cute girls who like mbv staying on site and .........

do you know what the lodging details aside from staying on site are?

There's about a dozen hotels in Monticello about 10 miles from the festival. Cheap ones are all filled up already. I dunno yet, I think I'm gonna book a hotel just to have *something* reserved, then look for other options in the meantime.

I'm either going to camp or try to borrow my mom's SUV and sleep in the back. I simply can't afford a hotel at this point.

While the Isn't Anything remaster spans only one disc, the Loveless one comes as a double-disc: the first disc remastered from both DAT (digital audio tape) and analogue tape, and the second remastered from just analogue tape. No needless bonus cuts or anything, just two gems in all their pristine, self-contained glory.

Hmm...

How do you remaster from DAT *and* analogue tape?

You can't. Remastering is a purely atomic function all done by one guy named Lazlo who lives in a closet in Cal Tech. Now you know.

Everybody wants to remaster the world.

8th May 2008
LINEUP BREAKDOWN - WHO PICKED WHO!

For those who were interested in how the lineup has been picked, here's a breakdown of the list so far, including details of which bands will play which day.

Friday - Don't Look Back

Built To Spill perform Perfect From Now On
Thurston Moore performs Psychic Heart
Meat Puppets perform Meat Puppets II
Tortoise perform Millions Now Living Will Never Die

Saturday - Curated by ATP

Shellac
Thee Silver Mount Zion Orchestra
Low
Autolux
Fuck Buttons
Edan with guest Dagha
Polvo
The Drones
Growing
Harmonia
Wooden Shjips
Om

Sunday - Curated by My Bloody Valentine

My Bloody Valentine
Dinosaur Jr
Mogwai
Mercury Rev
Yo La Tengo
Lilys

Here's a bandwagon
Get on in

surprise of the year lolz

For all the talk about this fest being stuck in the '90s... it looks like ATP did a great job selecting a lot of newer stuff (Autolux, Growing, Wooden Shjips, Fuck Buttons, Silver Mt Zion, Drones, Om, Edan) whereas if anyone is truly stuck in the '90s... it's gotta be MBV, sorry.

You won't see me disagree!

i'm assuming MBV is gonna add some more bands to their Sunday lineup, and i'd love to see something current that they're really into. (although in the case of more '90s stuff... i'd really like to see Aphex Twin. or maybe Earth. i dunno.)

wasn't Kevin a big Birthday Party fan, also? why doesn't he add Nick Cave circa 2008, who's touring this year?

Spiritualized maybe?

okay i'm done wishing aloud here

MBV and Aphex Twin are playing together 2 weeks before

Spiritualized maybe?

Heh, Spiritualized is opening for Nick Cave out here.

more bands being added Sunday:

Buffalo Tom
The Charlottes
Cud
Carnival Art
Paris Angels
Mary My Hope
School Of Fish

???

Hey you're so wrong, I don't see Northside on that list.

Smashing Orange just added.

Northside couldn't get visas worked out.

Just in: Damon from Swirlies (DJ Set)

you guys

NYC Tickets on sale, in case you forgot and what some.

*want.

I thought tickets were on sale today for LA but now I see it's tomorrow.

Who amongst you is going to the second Manchester night (29th?)

Dammit I just saw that Negative Approach are playing in Camden on the 24th June, but that's the night I'm seeing MBV. How inconsiderate of them.

I have a ticket for the NYC show on the 22nd. Super pumped, but I better not be let down, Mr. Shields.

Looks like it's mostly the "bands chosen by My Bloody Valentine" left to be announced at ATP - I hope they choose something other than more 90s shoegaze-related bands. Wouldn't be surprised if Sonic Youth played, although I don't care much either way about that.

O the sight if this was actually an O.G. MBV reunion... meaning the band that recorded This Is Your Bloody Valentine. surprise buttsecks.

hahahahaha

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/junglegill/surprise_buttsex.jpg

Here's a bandwagon
Get on in

-- Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 8, 2008 3:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

I would, if Norman Blake and Gerry Love were driving.

Opening act for LA...Calvin Harris. Huh.

http://yolatengo.com/images/marquee_thumb11.gif

hmm
http://yolatengo.com/marquee11.html

just got mbv tix for the wednesday santa monica show!

Got tickets for Chicago. Curious to see who the opening act will be.

Have I mentioned how much I hate Ticket Master?

ME TOO

plus, i hate that the base price is $48. :-(

Yeah, the price approached my personal no go limit. (Any nonfestival show at fifty and up base price = to heck with it.)

But anyway, Mackro and I got tickets for Thursday. The last show...again!

Any nonfestival show at fifty and up base price = to heck with it.

but Ned, wha'bout The Cure this summer?

just got mbv tix for the wednesday santa monica show!

-- get bent, Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:04 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Me too. We'll celebrate Rosh Hashana in style!

wooo, Chicago. Time to look at the Amtrak schedule

Ended up with Thursday night tickets here

i would pay big $$$$ to see the dave conway lineup reform

I got tickets for the Toronto show! Not sure who is opening though.

The Beautiful South

I'm sorry, I meant Moxy Fruvous

got SF tickets. AT $122 for a pair it better kick my ass. but since I only go to like four shows a year these days I guess I can deal.

Sean O'Hagan in the Guardian, yesterday. Some interesting bits.

15th May 2008
NEW ADDITION: LE VOLUME COURBE

The latest artist to be picked by My Bloody Valentine are the London based group Le Volume Courbe. Check out the lineup page for a biography.

nice to see that they/she are still a band

they're doing warm-up gigs at the ICA this weekend. tickets sold out this morning...

In recent ATP New York news...

10th June 2008
NEW ADDITION: APSE

The latest addition to the September 20th lineup curated by ATP are Newtown, Connecticut's APSE.

Apse are set to re-issue their stunning Spirit LP on our own ATP Recordings label very soon, and we're pleased to be able to bring such a great band to the New York festival.

So any word on who is actually in the lineup of the band?

Kevin Shields & most of the members of Gene

Shieldsy and the bassist from reformed texas band called Complete.
Additional guitar is going to be a sweet contribution from the original axe slayer from Pillsbury Hardcore.
Ringo is on drummings

Kevin Shields & most of the members of Gene

"Sleep well tonight
For tomorrow we die
At the hands of Ned
Oh fuck."

Has anyone that's going to the Glasgow gigs received their tickets yet? They're cutting it pretty fine.

Hey, Leigh, which night are you going to?

(cannot help re ticket arrival as someone else is getting mine for me, but can find out, I guess)

I'm going to the first night on 2nd July.

Ah, there's a crowd of us going on the 3rd. Still no idea if my tickets have materialised either.

This whole tour has become some sort of action/thriller movie.

(lol irony, given the movie of the same name as the band)

The line up is: Kevin, Bilinda, Deb and Colm.

Shieldsy and the bassist from reformed texas band called Complete.

dream line-up

So Colm really is on board, Steve? Interesting!

i wanna go!

Where was it ever implied that Colm was not on board?

Quite honestly I was under the impression you said he wasn't, but my brain is notoriously soft these days.

someone here said he may not be but it seemed baseless speculation based on his living in the US

Noooooooooo, someone said he was living in the bay area but that wasn't true at that moment as he was in LA. But he's definitely playing the drums for MBV.

Clarity and thanks. Well, that's good then!

well that was good. it sounded like a cross between elephants and planes.

I wondered if someone on here went tonight. So...?

Yay elephants and planes!

Anyway, setlist or whatever?

setlist here if you wanna ruin the surprise. i would heartily endorse waiting for the added thrill of omg they're playing ___.

also, none of them have aged.

I peeked. Mainly wondered if they'd play any of the pre-YMMR stuff, doubted they would but y'know. I've been out tonight so probably won't remember the setlist tomorrow anyway. What was that about blackouts?

i have no idea what blackouts are/were/refers to but they didn't seem to figure? it was pretty great ... i forgot what a super thrashy guitar band they are. so sweet on uhhh the fifth song, too.

sup
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2576669252_6f4dfc37f6.jpg

Oh never mind, I was making an oblique reference to an ILE thread from a few days. xpost

SPOILERZ :D

Oh god, that is a monster set! Although, pretty much any combination of songs from anything after Ecstasy and Wine would make me say that.

Hahaha, figures -- it's almost the same setlist as last time around, just reordered.

"So this is the third leg of the Loveless tour..."

i thought of this whenever someone hit me in the face with a camera

"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 1992: "HOLYFUCKINGSHITITSSOLOUDICANTMOVETHINKGAARRAAGGHH"
"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 2008: "Dude it's the part where it gets loud and crazy! I'm going to blog about all this via my iPhone. OK, I'm going to go get a beer"

it was at the ica, which is a nice cultural events venue in london, and the crowd were pretty snappily dressed. that's not a bad thing or anything, it's just like the jamc thing of the audience being pretty different.

Oh god, that is a monster set! Although, pretty much any combination of songs from anything after Ecstasy and Wine would make me say that.

THIS ^^^^^^

( i wonder if they're gonna do the same setlist the whole tour? did they switch it up in 1991-92 ? )

interesting they're playing 4 of 5 tracks from the YMMR EP. and only 5 out of 11 songs from Loveless (two of which overlap with EPs prior). no "Sometimes" is surprising to me. ah well, great show anyway i'm sure.

i especially miss "Loomer" and "Come In Alone" on the setlist there

might i add before i stop posting: i'm burning this setlist to a CDR right now. gotta listen to it sequenced properly. will report back soon. (anyone else doing the same?)

((( six tracks from Loveless it looks like, not five, sorry )))

I'd love to hear "What You Want", bootlegged. If this ever happens, please notify me here. I don't need the link, I'll find that myself.

Also, if anyone can bring over a new bag of coffee, I'd appreciate it, I'm running low. Thanks guys.

The only notable difference is a little less Isn't Anything than in 91-92, but that's made up for in the EP B-sides.

Well, at least the wondering is over, for better or worse.

And glad to see that they kept "Honey Power"... the song that should have been on Loveless and a hit but wasn't... sorta.

"Honey Power" roooooooolz

so how long do i have to wait for a boot of this gig

glad to see they haven't done anything productive in 16 years!

one word, Curt1s:

http://www.greghughes.net/images/chinchilla_clones_md_small1.jpg

CHINCHILLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHy2nHirO04

would have liked to have seen Drive it all over me on there, otherwise - all good

That video sounds like it was so fucking loud.

my bloody valentine - 13 6 08 ICA only shallow

my bloody valentine - when you sleep, london 13 june 2008

Viewing and hearing these clips, I noticed that the sound limitations that go with the convenience of people being able to upload live snapshots to YouTube (i.e. something no one even thought was possible in the future in '91/'92) is thwarted, seemingly, by the volume of the show -- which ironically STILL preserves the mystery of what the live show will be like, as far as the acoustics go. I gotta give MBV that much, whether they knew this or not.

would have liked to have seen Drive it all over me on there, otherwise - all good

exactly.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r304/42blues/m%20b%20v/P6090054.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r304/42blues/m%20b%20v/P6090051.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r304/42blues/m%20b%20v/P6090049.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/bennewmanx/DSC00182.jpg

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KI5QV96A
mp3 of the show

they kind of got it together a lot more for the second show; the sound better, them playing together more on the loveless stuff, a couple of different songs (c'mon, just wait and be surprised). it wasn't as loud but was twice as heavy, which reminds me of some old ks interview where he's explaining the difference, being able to feel some kind of heaviness-es rather than just hear volume. totally mindblowing and stuff, anyhow. those pictures are nice.

it wasn't as loud but was twice as heavy, which reminds me of some old ks interview where he's explaining the difference, being able to feel some kind of heaviness-es rather than just hear volume.

I wouldn't know anything about that. (Scroll down to me asking about their shows in 1992 at the Roxy and the Palace.)

oh, ha-ha. silly me. i'd thought it was from the one where he was answering a question about whether they'd support oasis if they were asked, and the answer was purely about it being conditional on the soundsystem. i hope someone good gets to interview them again, soon. did you ever see that sixty minutes interview with dylan where the guy just kept asking 'but HOW? did you WRITE? that SONG?!' about blowin' in the wind, or something?, all reverant and mired in myth? it'd be cool if they were freed from the standard journalistic hazy-dreampop-ephemeral-sensuous vibe, and someone mentioned the joys of kevin's voice/colm's snare-drum abuse, &c. the loveless book's fantastic, but all the other stuff i've seen's just really tired echoing.

I really should say that for all I know that's a standard answer of his. I've hardly done the definitive interview! (Mike McGonigal did, if anyone has.)

ah, wow, that interview's fantastic. everyone ought to read it for topical contextualisation. the difference tonight was really interesting; last night they sounded like a really guitarry garage band, with stupidly painful guitar noise, and then tonight it was much warmer, and fuller; not really abrasive or even loud, in a way. getting it to be a 'bodily' thing is pretty difficult, i think. there's that jim dickinson quote about live music being 'pushing air around', and the difference between last night and this evening was that the former was like looking at something (kind of like listening to a cd, where it just hangs around on the floor), the latter like feeling it (like a record!, which fills up the room).

oh, i don't know; i remember reading all of those interviews when the guy put the site up, i don't think i came across it anywhere else, and it seemingly stuck in my head ...
that you also elicited him talking about the band just being the three of them's really cool too. i remember the mike interview having the bit where he says/reveals that, bar touched & bilinda's vocals, he's the only musician actually playing on loveless, which seemed really revelatory. i think i like that book as much for the digressions* as the info, but it's great info.

* by some twist of fate, i had to return my ticket for a screening of tony conrad's the flicker to attend the ica show, something the book references at some point.

Thanks much for the kind words! That interview was done so long ago that there are many things about it I would have done in a different fashion, but it's a nice historical reference point at least.

for sure. i saw a great documentary about andy goldsworthy once, and he's a really endearing guy, he sort of talks in questions, pretty satisfied to be puzzling stuff over rather than answering it, and, not that i think ks is necessarily like that, but there's a lot of interesting stuff that comes up in interviews because of his thoughts; there's a bit in the loveless book where he says that a slight deviation or distortion of something - like francis bacon's variations on the human form - is freakier & more unnerving than something entirely alien and totally spooky like a jellyfish, and that their music has the same value.

about doing things differently, i saw him at a brian wilson show once, and was so determined not to add to the chorus of gangly kevin fans shouting about loveless saving their life that i went up and said i hoped he was doing o k. ahh. it is really nice that they're playing again, anyhow.

was so determined not to add to the chorus of gangly kevin fans shouting about loveless saving their life

Hey! :-D

The 13th Gig has gone up on D1m£ad0z£n for all those MP3 haters. Supposed to be very good quality too, I expect the 14th will go up soonish.

there's a bit in the loveless book where he says that a slight deviation or distortion of something - like francis bacon's variations on the human form - is freakier & more unnerving than something entirely alien and totally spooky like a jellyfish, and that their music has the same value.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

Has anyone that's going to the Glasgow gigs received their tickets yet? They're cutting it pretty fine

no, i've not ... the e-mail says only to worry if you've not had them a week before the gig :/

Glasgow ticket site was so shonky a mate of mine phoned up from Sydney just to be able to book!

My Bloody Valentine @ ICA, London - You Made Me Realise 13/6

90 seconds of dense, suffocating feedback with Kevin's guitar sounding like a jet engine over the top :O

quite a short version then.

Oh no, it was a 90 second clip of a ~25 minute rendition.

From the video description:

90 seconds of LOUD NOISE from the middle of 'You Made Me Realise', the show's closer. I wasn't prepared to film all 30 minutes of it, so here's a taster.

You can vaguely hear Kevin Shield's guitar divebombing halfway through - he was using a Digitech whammy pedal. You can really hear the harmonics of his vintage Jaguar coming through.

haha that last clip is total destruction

they should play no fun fest 2009 imo xD

he was using a Digitech whammy pedal. You can really hear the harmonics of his vintage Jaguar coming through.

It's a Jazzmaster, not a Jaguar

Not in this case dawg:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2577659958_e3ac88e20d_b.jpg

So he's using two guitars

This just in from Sonic Boom...

Just to let you know Spectrum - the full band - doing the highs, lows and heavenly blows of my career, will be playing with MBV at the Roundhouse this weekend and in Manchester next weekend.

The London shows are already sold out, but if you've got a ticket come along early to see us play.

The MBV support dates are:
Saturday 21st Sept - The Roundhouse
Saturday 28th Sept - Manchester Apollo
Sunday 29th Sept - Manchester Apollo

and as fast I as reposted...

CORRECTION: MBV SUPPORT DATES ARE OF COURSE JUNE

yessss Spectrum! hopefully dude shows up at ATP New York as well, i'd love to see him again.

yessss Spectrum! hopefully dude shows up at ATP New York as well, i'd love to see him again.

Confirmed! New message from Sonic...

21st September - ATP New York - Spectrum performing with MBV, Mogwai and many others

Not supporting in Glasgow?

fucking fucking fucking cunts! that would rock so motherfucking hard :(

come on, boom, you skag-addled bowlcut motherfucker. pull your finger out and come up here.

^ what I was thinking, but was too polite to post ^

you can always rely on me for an ill-judged bout of frenzied swearing.

watching MBV on youtube does not prove their point at all

Confirmed! New message from Sonic...

21st September - ATP New York - Spectrum performing with MBV, Mogwai and many others

Well fuck me fucking sideways...

haha even australia got to see sonic boom recently. take that glasgow!

I think Sonic Boom played here last year. Grimly is just being typically melodramatic.

Reissues delayed again!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/06/19/bmvalentine119.xml

Weren't Ant and Dec available?

Re: Sonic/MBV - Maybe we'll be treated to some epic-length E.A.R. jamz w/ Kev guitar noodling!

That would be such a surprising and radical thing for Kev to do.

as opposed to, you know, reuniting MBV after a decade and a half.

Seeing them tonight in Camden :-)

Yeah, seems really odd saying "I'm going to see MBV tonight."

the oddest thing is listening to mbv on heavy rotation in anticipation of seeing them. its pretty much exactly half a lifetime since i last saw them.

i see we get le volume courbe instead of spectrum tonight though....

apparently we're getting graham coxon on monday?!

the oddest thing is listening to mbv on heavy rotation in anticipation of seeing them

Those EPs are stunning.

Right, so when the 2CD "Loveless" with lovely sleevenotes does come out, will it get to number one in a "Travelling Wilburys" kind of way?

i've got free tickets for tonight but i'm not sure i can be bothered

what are you, kevin shields or something?

oh no my cover is blown

Grouty xpost: well, Pacific Ocean Blue is number eight in the album midweeks so who knows?

really? nice one.

You know, a few years ago you'd get reissue albums do well chartwise, e.g. the Virgin reissue of "My Generation"

When the deluxe issue came out, a much better package (the Virgin one was excellent too), it did not register.

Who is Tuesday support band?

The Wurzels

with their version of "to 'ere knows when!"

Kiss Yr fear, (oo arr oo arr)
Your red button Falls from my mouth

Slip Yr dress (oo arr oo arr)
Over yr 'ead, Its been so long

To 'ere knows when, arr,
To 'ere knows when, arr...

(banjo solo)

It was a bit unusual, but we all loved it.

actually Dale's now come up with an alternative stock expression for not liking/playing a record: "they were a strange lot, weren't they?" (cf. Sigue Sigue Sputnik last Sunday).

I am semi-deaf and have a hideous ringing in my ears. They started off quite noisy, but seemed to keep cranking up the volume as the set went on. I forced my way into the jumping pack of loons at the front for Soon and Feed Me With Your Kiss, but You Made Me Realise (which they finished with, obviously) was just plain nasty.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3169/2595895077_290409685b.jpg

Not the most stunning image, I'll grant you, but it'll do after a more than 16 year wait.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

that's all I can hear

http://www.flickr.com/photos/captainzep/2596726106/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/captainzep/2596726106/

Not sure if those links will work, but there's a few seconds' worth of low-quality phone video footage of 'No More Sorry' and the 'holocaust' bit of 'You Made Me Realise' (with an extremely brief cameo by me).

I am an idiot who posted the same link twice.
this is the footage of You Made Me Realise
I am going to attempt to crash and hope that the 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' which is afflicting porkpie too turns out to be temporary.

judging by that fooytage, you were abiut 20 feet from us!

that eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee really isn't going away

oops bad typage

I am an idiot who posted the same link twice
...erm, and got the name of the song wrong as well. It's 'Lose My Breath'.

Britishers: any variations on the setlist (from the 13th, posted above) tonight, other than "no more sorry?"

"Come in Alone" perhaps?

They didn't play 'No More Sorry'. I was shellshocked/drunk and just thought 'first side of Isnt't Anything, female vocals, slow one...' and got the wrong name.

I still can't believe folks are posting about FUCKING MY BLOODY VALENTINE SHOWS!!! Good times, these.

got my glasgow tickets this morning. get the fuck in.

i might take earplugs, just in case. whaddya think, people who've seen the show? sensible precaution or just plain wussy?

Who is Tuesday support band?

Sonic Boom again, apparently.
Just talking to someone who was at the Roundhouse last night, he told me they were handing out earplugs? Apparently it's advisable for the noise meltdown at the end.

Yeah, there were free ear plugs available, which I foolishly didn't take advantage of. I still feel a bit deaf in one ear.

OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD!!!!

That was transcendant...

Sorry, but to anyone who just plain IGNORED the signs everywhere saying WARNING EXTREME NOISE AND STROBES, FREE EARPLUGS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST and didn't take advantage, I'm sorry, but you are just plain stupid and deserve to have hearing damage. Did you think they were kidding?

I got special wax earplugs for comfort and was very glad of them. I took them out during You Made Me Realise just to see what it was like, and lasted a second and a half. You're not supposed to listen to that song, you're just supposed to *feel* it. It's just a total body experience, I swear to god, I felt it in my bones.

really pissed off about the support band situation. Le Volume Corbe are just the most mediocre band I've seen in years. Excruciating. And to hear that Spectrum are supporting tonight! Argh! Especially as there was a rumour going round that it was that whole 2/3 of Spacemen 3 thing with Will playing with them - NO, THAT IS FALSE. Had to phone him to check, but no, he's on tour with the BJM in Denmark. It's just Sonic Boom tomorrow. (Dont' know who his current band is.)

But wow. It was well worth the 15 year wait. Lose My Breath! Thorn! SLOW!!!! OMFG!!!!! We were lucky, though, we had front row seats on Bilinda's side. So grateful for that.

To repeat: YOU ARE NOT WUSSY TO USE EARPLUGS. YOU MADE ME REALISE IS *DESIGNED* TO BE EXERPERIENCED WITH EARPLUGS. It's about the physical feeling, not the sound.

(P.s. I saw Carsmile Steve and Ricky T and Cabbage downstairs but had no way of getting their attention save throwing my earplugs at them.)

heh. thanks, kate: your advice is appreciated. wire pretty much deafened me for a day a few years back (my own fault for standing right in front of a stack) and ever since then i've been a little more aware of the damage i could be doing to my ears.

grimly, do you know anyone who can take my pair of 3 july barrowlands tix off my hands? i can't make it up to glasgow anymore (but don't panic, i'm seeing mbv in london on tuesday!)

Those struggling with ear damage may wish to go see this guy instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y2WFH3KtUY

i'll ask around and see -- don't think it'll be too difficult. can't promise anything, natch.

bugger: didn't know you were planning on coming up. would have been good to meet/drink.

that's a point, actually: who's going to the july 3 show? i'm off all day (yay for my new part-time position!) so will be up for FAPery etc, pre- and post-gig.

xpost, natch. sorry.

thank you sir. 30 squids each innit x

also: another mate has one spare ticket for the july 2 gig in glasgow, if anyone's interested. e-mail me.

They ran out of earplugs at the merch stand last night, although we arrived there just before the band started. I'll take my Etymotics to the other gigs I think, although I haven't felt any ill-effects from last night (this isn't a good sign. Really should get my hearing checked out).

and further to the guitar confusion above: on YMMR Kevin played a Jazzmaster. Bilinda has some beautiful Mustangs.

That was everything I wanted it to be. Manchester and Glasgow to come, although I fancy another night at the Roundhouse..

wire pretty much deafened me for a day a few years back (my own fault for standing right in front of a stack) and ever since then i've been a little more aware of the damage i could be doing to my ears.

The same thing happened to me at a J Mascis gig a few years ago. My head felt like it was in a fishbowl for three days. I've worn plugs to (almost) every gig I've been to ever since, and I actually enjoy shows more now, since the plugs cut out a lot of the distortion from shitty PAs.

Thanks for the live reports everyone, I seriously cannot fucking wait for ATP New York

Roundhouse setlist from 6/20, Friday night:

Only shallow
When you sleep
You never should
(When you wake) you're still in a dream
Lose my breath
I only said
Come in alone
Thorn
Nothing much to lose
To here knows when
Slow
Blown a wish
Soon
Feed me with your kiss
Sueisfine
You made me realise / 15+ mins of noisy feedback

(Dont' know who his current band is.)

sonic's current group is like a bitesize budget spacemen 3; there's a guy playing jason-esque will the circle be unbroken esque tremolo and guitar noise, but it's kind of sub-spacemen-3 instead of sub-staple-singers. the setlist's all? s3 stuff, i think, but no fun, maybe apart from when tomorrow hits. uhh.

setlist's all? s3 stuff, i think, but no fun

...last time I saw Sonic he did a cover of Kraftwerk's "Hall of Mirrors" which wasn't half bad...

>>...last time I saw Sonic he did a cover of Kraftwerk's "Hall of Mirrors" which wasn't half bad...

I saw Mr Boom do this too, & he's right. It was *all* bad ho ho...

har har har.

YOU ARE NOT WUSSY TO USE EARPLUGS.

Not at all. Fifteen years ago, they were the loudest show I've ever seen and still hold that title.

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/earplugstore_2005_138556711

I can't wait!

Is this worth $100?

I got my ticket for the July 2nd gig on Saturday thankfully - looks like I'm going to be nancy nae pals that night. I've got some squishy foam ear plugs but I dunno if I should get something more substantial. Might have to give the fully YMMR a miss in order to get the last bus back to Edinburgh.

Not as loud as the Swans in 86, but my ears are certainly ringing still after last night's gig.

I used squishy foam ones from Boots and they were fine, but don't think of going without any. It was quite fun removing them for a few seconds during You Made Me Realise and suddenly hearing the violent higher registers - like being shot in the ear with broken glass. When you pop them back in it sounds weirdly comforting again.

Yeah I wore plugs throughout, and my ears are still ringing. Pretty amazing show though.

I'm going to see them in Paris, july 9th, I'm psyched! I wrote down earplugs at the top of my to-do list, thanks for that.

Do they sell merchandise at the concerts?

Very overpriced t-shirts, £23 for a standard one IIRC.

Earplugs were handed out at the entrance. I opted not to take them, but they're there for those that want.

Gah! So no nice (tour-)poster or anything? I can keep the money in my pocket then.

Not that I saw, must admit I examined the merch in passing only though...

Didn't see earplugs at the entrance to the Roundhouse, and when we went upstairs they'd ran out at the merch desk (I didn't examine the offerings myself). loads of crap tshirts outside, if that's what you want.

I forgot my plugs, but I didn't have any ringing. My ability to listen to conversations over any sort of background noise seems to be worse than usual though. I'll take my plugs to the other gigs, I reckon.

Very overpriced t-shirts, £23 for a standard one IIRC.

The Mary Chain stung (admittedly drunk and malleable) me with similar pricing at the Brixton shows last year.

I'm taking plugs tomorrow for defs - I'm worried anought about encroaching tinnitus/random daytime distortion as it is.

No takers for my two 3 Jul Barrowlands spares then?

anought = enough

sorry, charlie: nobody's bitten yet. or for the (single) ticket for the 2nd, either. i asked a couple of people but they'd either decided not to go at all (bah) or got sorted elsewhere.

i'm back at work (in my NEW, IMPROVED PART-TIME ROLE, woo) on wednesday so will ask about there too.

Are any of the Glasgow Ilxors going on July 2nd?

The Loveless and Isn't anything CDs have been put back to 14th July now.

Tom E's review for PF:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/51442-live-my-bloody-valentine

I'm hearing September now; someone on the MBV.net forums who claims to have been backstage on Friday got the same prediction from Shields.

Did he specify which September?

The earth wind and fire one.

Well, the discs exist at least. Quite what's going to delay their release further isn't clear.

For those that care, "Only Shallow" is around 2-2.5dB louder, but no squashing of peaks (it never peaked higher than -4dB on the 1991 CD anyway). The Disc 2 remaster (from analogue tape, apparently) is a smidgen louder than the Disc 1 remaster and sounds richer, better separated.

Does that count as a spoiler? It's only a reissue.

Going tonight, but I've just found out someone can't come, so I have a spare ticket.

Anyone?

yeah,they were LOUD. We didn't use the earplugs cos we were kinda at the back, 6 metres in though.. woah! Loved it, loved the visuals too.

xpost to MJones:

I wonder how it compares to the original minidisc version.

Went last night, same as mmmm above I was standing fairly nearly the back so I didn't use the earplugs, I'm not too deaf today though. I guess cos the venue's pretty massive, I usually get more ringing in my ears than this after gigs in smaller venues.

Spectrum only played 4 songs, and were a bit under-rehearsed. At least there wasn't any Speak'n'Spell noodling though.

Tried to sell my wife's ticket as she's sick and couldn't make it, tout offered me 2 quid for it, I said c'mon I can't even buy a beer for that and walked off, he called me a cunt and a wanker, then got his cock out and started pissing in the middle of the street right in front of the venue. GG Allin's not dead! He's a Camden ticket tout!

Yeah, I had read somewhere the touts have taken a total rinsing on this. Apparently tickets can be had at any of the local boozers for about a tenner on the night.

True, but because of the way they announced the gigs (pretty much one day at a time for London), a lot of people I know have tickets for Manchester and Glasgow when they could easily have gone to 2 or 3 nights at the Roundhouse, and just can't give away tickets to the other cities, or they've made travel arrangements and such.

Yeah I have a friend in Brighton who's going to the Manchester gig because of that. Stupid promoters.

I went last Friday ('cos a friend managed to get a pair of tickets for me on the day they went on sale), but my girlfriend and I had already bought tickets for saturday in Manchester (not a massive problem, I used to live there and haven't seen a lot of friends in a while), and the Wednesday in Glasgow, which is going to be a mini-holiday of sorts, albeit I don't really know anyone up there. Barrowlands is a sweet venue though, and I'm getting very excited (and probably building myself up for a big disappointment) by the support rumours (Teenage Fanclub or Mogwai maybe?), and I have leave to use up, and I got fairly cheap train tickets, so it's not a total disaster.

albeit I don't really know anyone up there

we're all great and friendly ... i'm out and about elsewhere on wednesday night (am going to MBV on thursday because i was slow off the mark getting tickets) but if you're in town early evening and fancy a pint, let us know. (or post on try glasgow more and see if anyone else is up for it.)

how worthwhile is a purchase of the 'remaster' then?

Pastels confirmed (well, it's on their myspace anyway) as wednesday night support.

oh, be still my beating heart :(

the 'holocaust' bit at the show on the 20th was like an avalanche fucking an earthquake.

like an avalanche fucking an earthquake.

oh my god that is the best description ever.

Do NOT use those squishy plugs pictured upthread. I had to have half of one extracted from damn near my middle ear, and they aren't that effective to start with. Flents Quiet Please! Foam (Latex Free) Plugs are much better for most uses, incl. earripping blockbuster movies, but they wouldn't work for live MBV; see if there isn't still a thread or two at least still to be resurrected on ILE, where they talk about some good, sometimes professional-use earplugs, like for airhammer operators.

I don't get ebay. 19 hours left and someone ups the bid from $52 to $100. Is that secretly the seller or something?

Went to the Manchester show last night and it was pretty much everything that could possibly be hoped for. I saw them on the Isn't Anything and Loveless tours all those years ago and whilst they were (obviously) ace they were pretty ramshackle compared to the, frankly, fucking gorgeous noise machine they are now. I wonder if PA and mixing technology has finally caught up with what they were trying to do back then? 'Cause last night was loud as all hell but still managed to bring out all the beauty and subtlety in the songs (To Here Knows When was a real highpoint). From a fanboy viewpoint it looked like Kevin was playing some of the high melody lines (eg. I Only Said),which they had the flautist for last time out, on his guitar. They managed to play the "middle eight" of YMMR for just over 25 minutes, which given the pained expression on Colm's face by about 20 minutes in must be just about the limit of how long they can *actually* play it for. It's a cliché to call it cathartic, but I certainly went through a range of emotions whilst they were pummeling away from laughter to end-of-days style shit.

I got tickets and went along for nostalgic reasons as much as anything, and really had no idea what to expect but was honestly blown away (as were all my friends), it makes you wonder what they could have done in the intervening years if Kevin had got his act together, and for a band that have not (presumably) rehearsed or played much they were incredibly tight and focused. There's some serious Dorian Gray antics going on too because they do look exactly the same as they did in '92. It might just be proof of the benefits of doing bugger all for 16 years of course.

On a practical note, if you have earplugs wear them. I only put them in for YMMR and my head has been ringing and whooshing today like a fucker. In total agreement about the £23 t-shirts complaint upthread, a massive ripoff. And the drip release of the tickets and dates is pure racketeering, one of my friends ended up selling two spares to a tout for a fiver, who dubbed them "My Bloody Waste of Time".

So that's where Paul Owen ended up!

That's a great review Bill A. Can't wait till the Paris concert!

Here, you can download the entire 13th of June London concert.

charlie, if you're reading: i've failed miserably to find anyone who wants your tix. sorry.

Cheers, LBI! Reading it back it's a bit of a splurge, but they stirred up a weirdly affecting mix of emotions. I can't think of anyone before (or since) MBV who've been able to properly combine the crushingly heavy with such tenderness and seeing them live again really reminded me of this.

Thanks for that live link as well - very acceptable sound quality, although it reveals some *seriously* wonky lead guitar on Honeypower...

charlie, if you're reading: i've failed miserably to find anyone who wants your tix. sorry.

dammit, me neither! i'm next-day-delivering them to a mate in glasgow today anyway, in case she can shift them - i just want them to be used now, otherwise that's £60 i've spent on fuck-all.

if it's any consolation, my mate with a spare ticket for wed can't shift that either :(

that's not much consolation, sadly - all it means is there will be unused tickets, empty spaces and pissed off bank managers :-(

so that's an ilx count of five tickets for tonight and two for tomorrow, all going begging and no fucker wants them? are we all so old? meh.

grimly, Charlie, If I was in Glasgow today or tomorrow then trust me I'd want to see them again. Sorry you're facing wasted cash!

>so that's an ilx count of five tickets for tonight and two for tomorrow, all going begging and no fucker wants them? are we all so old? meh

It does seem like the promoters have slightly overestimated MBV's pulling power and that everybody who wants tickets has got them; there were lots of spares floating about for Manchester (on Saturday at least) and people were offering them outside for nothing rather than sell to touts. Realistically, they would never have been able to play two nights at the Apollo (3500 capacity) even in their heyday. I know the legend has grown over the years, and there were loads of "kids" at the show I went to, but I suppose the opposite is also true in that a fair amount of the more grizzled fans from the old days will not be bothered.

Yeah as I mentioned upthread I couldn't get rid of my wife's ticket when she couldn't make it. I decided to keep it in case I wanted to go out for a fag halfway through (no readmissions) rather than sell it to arsehole touts for 2 quid. In the end there was a smoking terrace anyway so I wouldn't have needed it.

Got my earplugs for tonight at the Barrowlands and I'll be tipping slightly-interested friends that there should be tickets to be had.

It's 20 years since Isn't Anything. Fucking hell.

And I'm still as sprightly as the day it was released! Uh.

I have a mate who bought tickets for tonight but now cannot go due to last minute interview for a job down South that he can't get back from in time. He's away already so no point in asking for a swap, but if anyone has a spare for tomorrow that would otherwise be going in the bin, let me know please? He would pay, but has already paid for a Wednesday ticket he can't get rid of.

Isn't the surfeit of tickets due to only three gigs being announced to start with before tons more got added due to promoter greed following the quick sale of the first lot, meaning that lots of Londoners have tickets for out-of-town gigs they don't need to go to now?

ailsa, mail me offlist (starsandheroes at your friendly favourite search engine's mail service) - i have two spares for tomorrow which i can't shift - you chum's welcome to them if my "fence" in glasgow hasn't managed to get rid of them today already (the tickets are up there already so your mate will have to pick up tomorrow).

also, your theory re surplus tickets is 100% precisely what happened to me, so yes you're probably right!

Like, as if they were going to miss London out!

Yay, just found out my mate has got a ticket for me for tonight in Glasgow.

nonono mark, they announced like two london dates which sold out in seconds, but i managed to get glasgow tickets before they sold out, and then they announced a load more london dates, one of which i ended up going to, hence no longer need to go all the way to glasgow to see them, hence two spare tickets for glasgow, y'see?

ah.

bump for ailsa - let me know asap, apparently someone's close to buying both of my spares for tomorrow!

No, just go ahead if you can get money for them. I haven't mentioned this to him, and I hope he doesn't lurk on here (sorry Ewan, if you do!), but I'm sure he'll understand that you'd rather take money for them if necessary. Let me know via here if they don't go.

charlie: if you're reading, there's a chance that -- yes! -- malcolm middleton will take one of your tickets. not sure, though. i'll e-mail you too.

my spares have gone now i'm afraid... although surely resident pop luminaries get a free pass?

yeh, i imagine any pop luminaries might.

malcolm won't, though.

<ker-tish, boom>

Erm you guys, does anyone know anyone with any more spares for tonight? SOMEONE WHO SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS has JUST looked at our tickets and OMG they are for YESTERDAY! HELP!! HELP!! HELP!!!!

(this someone is NOT ME, all right?)

I am going to be off the internet in about half an hour - Grimly, since you're around on this thread, please be my ticket co-ordinator while I go and smack people round the head and I will see you in the pub later. I should be contactable by phone for most of the afternoon.

OMG!

Hope you can still make it!

What time were MBV on and offstage last night?

The Pastels are support tonight btw. On at 7.45pm according to the lady on the phone at the barras. She said mbv were on at around 9ish and it will finish by 11.