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Accordingto figures by The Audit Bureau of Circulation , The NME is now the biggest selling music weekly , overtaking Kerrang.
Uncut magazine is the fastest rising music magazine.

The NME, Friday, 15 August 2003 08:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray!

st cloud kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It's still crap though.

Bong, Friday, 15 August 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

this is a desperately sorry state of affairs on all counts...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Heat sells more and its record reviews are much more useful.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)

you know the romans didn't have any use for the concept of the week and gave their days no names

also they considered no one to have any sense b4 the age of 36

also: aqueducts!!

i think that's three ideas we could happily resurrect which wd transform the state of music writing for the better

mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

http://media.guardian.co.uk/circulationfigures/story/0,11554,1018899,00.html

Sharon, Friday, 15 August 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the NME and not only because I write fer it. So hooray!

st cloud kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

They annoy me intensely for reasons I just can't pin down. I think it's the way they have to have one band every couple of weeks that can do no wrong -- e.g. White Stripes, Kings of Leon. Apart from this irritating me in itself, it really starts affecting said bands music from my point of view.

Mildly related anecdote: I was once in trouble with a student radio station because I was complaining live on air about the NME "ferociously masturbating" over the Datsuns.

ME: 'blah blah blah ferociously masturbating over the Datsuns. Can I say ferociously masturbating?'

PRESENTER: 'No.'

ME: 'Sorry.'

I know this isn't overly interesting, but I did get to say, and possibly spell incorrectly, "ferociously masturbating" four times in one reply.

person#0 (person#0), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

bring back sounds and mr henderson's writings for it i say

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Rock is back!!!!!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like to know the figures for Bang and X-Ray. Anyone?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Rock is back.

Hooray!!!!

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 09:08 (twenty-two years ago)

"both titles now sell just over 70,000 copies per issue." - Mediaguardian.

So NME has now managed to get neck and neck with a specialist single-genre music magazine. That's quite an achievement.

stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray!

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 09:10 (twenty-two years ago)

X-Ray: 27

Bang: 3 and a swapsie for last month's TV Hits.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

That would be a bad trade ... I'll swap my copy of Smash Hits with Hear'say on it though.

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Whenever i've read something by the NME Editor (conor someone) i always get the impression that if you're over 21 they're not interested in you. You should be reading one of IPC's other older music titles. And if youre over 25 then why are you listening to music. Until NME sorts out that attitude it will sink lower and lower.
Who else agrees NME seems to think like that?

kevin brown, Friday, 15 August 2003 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

So NME has now managed to get neck and neck with a specialist single-genre music magazine. That's quite an achievement.

Saucer of milk, Stevie? spot on, obv.

I've just received a fantastically bad piece written by C0n0r McN1ch0l4s for Record Of The Day. Sadly it's in Acrobat so I can't cut'n'paste and it's too big to transcribe right now, but the gist of it (in response to ROTD protestations that NME ignores UK music in favour of US stuff) is "We love UK music! Honestly! I mean, look at the new issue...*waves around Strokes front cover with White Stripes exclusive within*"

I wish I could find a link - I can email it as a PDF if anyone's got the spare bandwidth.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

is everyone familiar with the Conor NME meets Justin Darkness at Glasto story? its rather funny. i hope its true.

stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I am not familiar stevie - please tell.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

stevie r u the unabomber of the nme?

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

stevie r u the unabomber of the nme?

what exactly do you mean doomie? i don't understand!!

stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

bring back Record Mirror, and MTV Europe, and...everything

stevem (blueski), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I demand The New Look-In.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I have just realised that the moment when NME got worse was the moment it started printing swear words in full - bang went all its character.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

if Holly Hernandez wrote reviews for the proper releases i might read the NME more.

Holy 0\/\/Nz, Friday, 15 August 2003 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

at least we can console ourselves with the knowledge that none of the music covered sells 70000 a week. also that its shite

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

holly hernandez? what a sad male rock fan wank character they made there.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

She's the sassy rock critic who thinks your band are shite; say it you indie bitches, say "MY BAND LACKS DIRECTION, POOR SONGCRAFT, POOR IN COMPARISON TO THE SUBLIME GLORIES OF CALEXICO".

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

who cares?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 15 August 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hating on the NME is such a boring rockist thing to do.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 15 August 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with N.

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The Conor M/Justin tingum is entirely true... I have now heard it from about four different sources, some of whom were evern there and everything. Tell away Stevie... you have a better turn of phrase than me...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 August 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry mencap... couldn't possibly... you tell your rashomon version story though, i don't even have a funky pseudonym to hide behind...!

stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

lets not let fear of being boring rockists distract us from hating the NME, I mean come on. who cares? people who think the NME is crap obviously.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The Romans *did* have names for the days of the week - they're the root of the Romance language ones. Mercredi == mercurii dies, Samedi == Saturni dies, etcetera. Names for days of the week have been around since the ancient Greeks (hemera heliou-hemera khronu).

On the other hand, aqueducts.

And yay for the NME selling again: now I can go back to mocking it and not feel guilty.

cis (cis), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The NME is now little more than an indie-rock Hello magazine. The emphasis is not about music but about personalities (how else to explain the fact that Kelly Osbourne cropped up in almost every issue since the middle of last year.) There's more space devoted to the Stroke's drummer's new haircut than to actual music. This is a music weekly that devoted it's first 6 pages to Liam Gallagher's lost teeth in one issue last year. And alot of the bands they foist upon their readers are just terrible. I can't believe the Vines get so much attention, they are SHITE!

Neil FC, Friday, 15 August 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't hate the NME. But these threads keep getting ans.

I avoid DJ Martian's blog for a reason you know.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

the darkness are cack. shite metal version of robbie williams does not mean a good thing, people. if the story involves conor accidently killing justin then let me hear it. if it's justin being a rock star twit (cue: a thousand other stories about a thousand other bands) - then i don't wanna hear it.

i love the nme! hooray!

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

do they give you free cocaine?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

no, he has to pay with his dignity

stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

whatcanisay? stevie is right. I'M A WHORE FOR ROCK'N'ROLL BABY!!!!!

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

No, you're just a very mediocre writer with misplaced arrogance and over-enthusiasm for faggot indie bands.

st prick gay of boys, Friday, 15 August 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

*looks up rashomon in three dictionaries, draws blank*

Darkness routinely slagged off by NME as a comedy poodle embarrasment, for some crazy reason. Darkness put out by this and refuse to speak to NME ever again ever no matter what. Darkness get very big and popular in the forthcoming year or so, and go down a storm at Glasto, where they meet Conor backstage. Conor approaches Justin out of Darkness, admits he was wrong to suggest they'd never attain any sort of popularity and begs to put them on the cover. Justin instructs him to get down on one knee and *beg* for his approval; Conor complies. And after all that The Darkness still don't give 'em an interview and Conor has to make to with a four-page potted history and a few quotes from Darkness compadres... and now whoever it is that replaced Dominic Mohan in The Sun likes them, so arguably there are no winners...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 August 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

*looks up rashomon in three dictionaries, draws blank*

Kurosawa movie with many people telling the same story from differing angles

stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah... I'll just think of it as like that episode of The Simpsons with the linguist robot then...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 August 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

NME's sales havent actually gone up at all. NME's readership has barely changed in six months. It has 72,433. Kerrang's readership fell from 84,173 to 70,361. Hardly something for Conor McShite to celebrate.
Uncut sells 105,781 a month. Q's readership has also fallen.
No figures are available for X-Ray or Bang.

Anyone know how much NME sold on average in the 70s, 80s & 90s?

Harold McCall, Friday, 15 August 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

No, you're just a very mediocre writer with misplaced arrogance and over-enthusiasm for faggot indie bands.
-- st prick gay of boys (play10offa...), August 15th, 2003.

Sigh even under a fake name i get the weakest homophobic haterz. I emailed you St Prick Gay Of Boys. I@ll be interested if you email me back. Meanwhile, back at the bat-cave - ILM I official give up! Neurotic Teen Idol I hope you don't mind if we take the soft-pop talk off ILM and into email. And Norman I'll be hassling you for more writing.

st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

What is soft pop?

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 15 August 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Whatever it is, it isn't NEW ROCK WHICH IS ROCKING AND NEW.

The most interesting thing about these figures is that Now outsells Heat.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I think soft pop is a gateway music, Nick.

Joss, Friday, 15 August 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm alone in loving the NME. I hope N. comes and joins me. Or doesn't care.

David. (Cozen), Friday, 15 August 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Can anyone shed any light on a couple of rumours I heard the other night?

1) the NME has six months to improve it's circulation or the plug gets pulled (this sounds familiar and it seems to do the rounds with such frequency that I take this with a Siberian salt mine.)

2) they axed a Strokes interview due to the fact that it contained strongly derogatory opinions about Islam and great praise for Bush (I Googled this one but the best I could come up with was:
... Apparently the drummer from The Strokes does. According to an article in NME, Fabrizio
Moretti will be ... be treated in accordance with the laws of Islam says Iraq ...
www.extremesloth.com/blog/archives/ 2003/March/index.shtml - 101k -)

Ben Dot, Friday, 15 August 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

(Did the Romans really have no concept of the week because that is very freaky! But they had months, right, so did they think 'this is day 1, 2, 3 ... 31'? What night did they go out?)

m.s (m .s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Augustus XVI was the day of the very first Rome FAP, or as they were called then, orgies

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

a soft pop sounds like something you'd get called in primary school for having pink socks

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 16 August 2003 09:08 (twenty-two years ago)

ok i based that "fact" on looking up monday and week in a not very big latin dictionary and not finding them

cis may well be correcter than me re day names

there were three nodal days in any given month (kalends, nones and ides), and they sort of said: FRIENDS, ROMANS AND COUNTRYMAN, LET US FAPP TWO DAYS B4 THE NONES OF AUGUST, or whatever

it is a fucked-up way to run a calendar, but did you ever try arithmetic using i, v, x etc? i don't think the romans get full props for their empire-building given their self-imposed limitations!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

also the nodal days are all lumped up towards the beginning (like the 5th, the 9th and the 13th or something.... )

(i don't know what happened b4 they invented july and august: maybe they just slept in for eight weeks)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 09:20 (twenty-two years ago)

markus est caudex

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 16 August 2003 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

there is no word for HIPHOP in latin!! DO YOU SEE??!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)

video

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 16 August 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

this should go without saying, but despite doomie's veiled accusation above, i had *nothing* to do with the homophobic crap posted up above. to be honest, i thought it was doomie himself adopting a new persona to beat himself up, like he used to on the CTCL messageboard...

stevie (stevie), Saturday, 16 August 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The fact that the figures arent Available for X-Ray and Bang is that because they're new magazines or they havent sold enough to register?
Anyone know the figures?

hamish, Saturday, 16 August 2003 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Some magazines don't register for the Audit Bureau of Circulation, simple as that.

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 17 August 2003 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i love the NME. i need my dose of hype and tomfoolery every week... NME is not afraid to be adolescent, giggly, fawning, or of having a very short memory... in a world of music mags that take themselves painfully seriously, we need NME to save us from ourselves.

too much for my mirror (too much for my mirror), Sunday, 17 August 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

NME is completely irrelevant these days. Its not even worth just looking at in teh shops for the latest news. I'm not interested in reading about what Julian Casablancas has been up to or about whats top of the ringtone charts. But NME seems to think *adopts patronising tone* "Thats what the kids want" "we're down with the kids us".

rodney, Sunday, 17 August 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i still can't get over that 'liam's teeth thing in full'. i guess i'll never understand the english. nme is also nasty/gushy in a way you usually see in smaller fanzines. but it seems music writing in general can be very very subjective in that embarassingly personal way. i remember an article in magnet going on listing proof of all the ways ryan adams is an asshole. is it that people just get very emotional about music? or music fans take bitterness and/or obsession to a whole new level? speaking of which did anyone follow the hubbub about the LA weekly review of the trachtenburg family? i'd post it but the online version actually went back and rewrote the offending review making all the angry letters about it nonsensical. http://laweekly.com/ink/03/37/letters.php

lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Sunday, 17 August 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i couldn't be bothered hating the NME. it's just kinda sad now. i read it for nearly 15 straight years and in the end the wall-to-wall hype with next-to-no insight thing just seemed pointless. i don't think i'm missing anything.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 17 August 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

All papers and magazines went downhill the moment they could make every page colour. The NME more than most. Am I wrong? If you skim through the NME, in Tesco, or even Safeway, isn't the worst thing about it how ugly and colorful it is on every page? Maybe there are genius writers on the NME. I dunno. I never can get past the fact they're all purple and stuff, with a gaudy Carling logo behind.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 18 August 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

there are no genius writers on the NME. i can count all the good ones on one hand.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 18 August 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't even get that far. It gives my eyes too much of a bashing.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 18 August 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I've come to the conclusion that, at 28, I am no longer NME's target "demographic". There's little point bemoaning this fact, or indeed pining for days of yore when the mag preached a far more inclusive gospel aiming at 14 year-old greenhorns and grizzled mid-40s old rockers alike. Those days are over, move along - there's nothing to see here...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 18 August 2003 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)

WHY YOU ALWAYS GOT TO BE TRIPPIN' ON THAT HATERADE STEVIE?

LORD BOOGIE OF THE ANTI-HATERZ, Monday, 18 August 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah!

- The Editors of Bang

Hip O'Crit (stevie), Monday, 18 August 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I ain't be givin' no hate there Stevie just trying to show them love. Word.

LORD BOOGIE OF THE ANTI-HATERZ, Monday, 18 August 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm 21, well in the paper's demographic, but it doesn't have anything for me and hasn't for years. I bought my last one in November '99, by which time it was clearly beyond help. All the interesting writers had gone, Stephen Wells had turned into a ranting caricature, and the whole thing had taken on an objectionable sneery tone which still prevails. On top of this, they spent the entire issue trying to convince me that Morrissey was an EVILE NAZI(yes, they were still on about the Madstock incident years previously), and then implied Primal Scream were as well because they had just released a single called "Swaztika Eyes".

As if this wasn't insulting enough to the intelligence, there was the back page article in which Swells posited this stunning idea: what would happen...if, y'know, The Sex Pistols, right, were IN THE GOVERNMENT? CRAZY, EH! As you might expect, it was the worst kind of aging punk wank-fiction, devoid of any insight or wit, and the final straw for me, anyway.

As for the whole "Liam's Teeth" ridiculousness, I'm sure NME once printed a Thrills gag about a tabloid paper ignoring the outbreak of World War 3 in favour of a story about Liam buying some trousers. Ironic, non?

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

q's finished. handing it over to that bloke from kerrang saw to that.
always been patchy, bit bland etc but also always had
good and extremely funny stuff in it up until about 2001.
not anymore. losing readers. will continue to do so. good.

piscesboy, Monday, 18 August 2003 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

But NME is exactly what the kidz want! We give them what they want. You're all just too old and past it now to understand!!

Conor McWanker, Monday, 18 August 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

That's it Conor, you're doing poppa proud.

Steve Sutherland (Dom Passantino), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they went a bit awry when they began to cover Coldplay/ Travis as the exciting, serious, worthwhile bands. I like the way they've ignored the comeback of Suede (and also Placebo) - fair enough neither is shaking the world - but will still furiously drool over far, far lesser pap such as The Darkness and Kings of Leon.

The Strokes... I got fed up with The Strokes when NME just kept forcing and forcing them. And it was beyoned belief. They're a failry good pop band and all that but then you have talking about "Julian Casablanca's tortured genius"... I mean: WHAT THE FUCK? He's a spotty rich kid singing "spaceships they don't understand". What fucking tortured genius????

And I see they suddenly love bands they once hated again (Guns n Roses for one), and the leftism prounounced by such middle class wankers as Stephen Wells is sooo pathetic.

But they did do a pretty good job of initially introducing me to The White Stripes and The Libertines, so for all the cack they still have some use.

Calz (Calz), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Libertines suck. But not as much as Kings Of leon, The Vines , Coldplay and everything else NME hypes up. Have you noticed how theyre afraid to be too critical in reviews now? Apart from obvious targets like Celine Dion or Alien Ant Farm. But anything that might actually sell they give things like 7/10 when its a shit album.
And how can they say Kings Of Leon made the best debut album of the last 10 years. Laughable.

Hype Hater, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't mind the Libertines. but i would rather eat faeces than hear Kings of Leon again.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:33 (twenty-two years ago)

there are no girls in the NME anymore.

pulpo, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes there are. Not as many as a few years ago I'll grant you.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

Cant find an NME radio thread but I couldn't be bothered reviving the usual threads. And I dont recall this one at all.

Commercial station NME Radio will no longer be accessible on digital radio or Sky, Virgin and Freesat TV networks, it has been announced.

But the station, which won a Sony Radio Academy Award in May, will still be broadcast online.

The announcement comes after DX Media, the company which launched the service in 2008, terminated its contract with station owners IPC Media.

IPC said the NME website attracts more than 4.2 million users every month.

NME's publishing director Paul Cheal said: "We have enjoyed a great working relationship with DX Media. We would like to thank them for all the excellent work that has gone into NME Radio.

"Meanwhile, we will continue to develop ways in which NME's audience can engage with both audio and visual content utilising our in-house studio facilities whilst maintaining an online music service via our award-winning music website NME.com".

The 24-hour service specialises in indie and alternative rock music.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

Did anyone here ever listen to NME Radio?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently it's better than you'd think, sort of original XFM vibe to it (pre-Capital takeover that is). Admittedly I've never actually listened to it.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

I never heard pre-Capital takeover XFM either.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

It was London only back then. I never bothered with it when I got a DAB radio as everyone said it was really bad by then.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

i don't mind the Libertines. but i would rather eat faeces than hear Kings of Leon again.

sadly unprescient

dyaon't (sic), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

i stand behind that

sugar fuckup (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

eight months pass...

circulation has been collapsing for a while now, how much longer can it last?
New Musical Express ; IPC Media Ltd ; 33,875 ; -16.4%
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=46706

zappi, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

NME UK? Like there's international versions? Are they all utterly fixated on everything oasis as well?

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

Empire ; Bauer Consumer Media ; 179,064 ; -11.1%

that's pretty bad

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

Since Kerrang mainly covers emo, the mainstream metal kids buy Metal Hammer because there's pretty much zero metal in Kerrang now, but the bands they cover are just as shit as the ones in Kerrang. Once the whole emo thing is over I cant see how Kerrang will survive tbh.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

Quite amazed to see that Classic Rock has more than double the circulation of the NME these days.

Satantango! (Matt #2), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

Mildly surprised by Mojo nicking ahead of Q, (and 'doing ok' with 3.9% fall). So it's now Britain's biggest music magazine?

man some serious year-on-year drops in general - Zoo 32.8%, Loaded 30.8%, Heat 19.3

portrait of velleity (woof), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

nme are now in the sales range of classic cars weekly

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

if I were Krissi Murison I would be thinking about starting an indie caravanning club and turning the nme into its free magazine, caravan club freebies looking strong
33 The Caravan Club Magazine 386,494 0.8%
66 Camping and Caravanning 256,321 8.1%

portrait of velleity (woof), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

It's got to hurt the NME's sales figures that it's weekly and most of those other things are monthly. I know it's always been that way, but as covers prices have crept up, the difference in annual cost is getting wider and wider. What is it now, two pound something a week? Who the heck wants to spend over a hundred pounds a year on it? Get your news on the internet and buy something glossy to read on the bog. You won't get ink on your arse that way either.

ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

NME will eventually have to become monthly, I guess.

Around 16% down is serious. Most of the others are losing too, but down 4-5 per cent is kind of normal and expected in the internet age. NME's slide is more serious.

But then, maybe changing into a monthly would make them less aggressive in terms of always searching for the next big thing and tearing down anyone who's gotten as far as to the debut album?

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

KEEPIN IT RELEVANT IN THE 2K11

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

he looks like Genesis P. post tit implants tbh

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.counterfeitchic.com/Images/anna%20wintour%20from%20modellaunch.jpg

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

Be interested to know how much money the website etc. makes. If it covers any print losses it's not so much of an issue. Making it a monthly isn't the answer - monthlies are more expensive to produce and there are too many of them in the market as it is.

Empire slump is actually more serious given that films serve you up and almost constant supply of new content and people still want to read about them.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

Well, it'll show whether Beady Eye live up to the hype. I did love Oasis but I don't expect all that much from Beady Eye. If they eventually deliever, it'll be because they still have Andy Bell and he manages to come up with some of the songwriting skills he would at times show back in Ride and the somewhat underrated Hurricane #1.

I am eagerly awaiting whatever Noel may come up with though.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

also there will probably always be 60,000 teenage boys in the UK with too much pocket money and terrible taste in music

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

NME's in a perfect storm of print media apocalypse and the death of widespread interest in the music it covers, among the kids at any rate. Kerrang seems to be several steps ahead in terms of understanding its audience.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:09 (fifteen years ago)

Actually, Geir, as I said on the DiffGear thread, it's got a lightness that Oasis never had, I reckon you'll like it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TGaFUPJleS4/TMOYKoWjfpI/AAAAAAAAVYM/Nksx6FE4WNo/s1600/Beady+Eye+album+Liam+Gallagher.jpg

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

If they eventually deliever, it'll be because they still have Andy Bell and he manages to come up with some of the songwriting skills he would at times show back in Ride and the somewhat underrated Hurricane #1.

I think that this is why, i.e OTM.

I'm not expecting much from Noel, tbqf.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

i would in all seriousness rather take my balls off with the kitchen scissors than deliberately listen to Beady Eye

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

Not very hygienic that.

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

I for one the Beady Eye record has the level of Andy Bell songwriting not heard since "only the strongest will survive, these days you've got to kill yourself just to stay alive".

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

Is the verb "punch" again?

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

IPC must see NME as valuable brand. Dunno about the solution. What's fashionable? Go free? iPaddy nonsense wouldn't make sense.

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

thatsxenophobic.gif

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

Geir, I also think you're going to like Beady Eye. Liam has never sounded more Lennon-esque.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/willgompertz/2011/02/the_greatest_frontmen_ever.html

Not seen the actual NME list though. Anyone have it?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Grouty is slow, usually he will have this polled by now

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

found the list. might as well poll it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

NME's Greatest Frontmen Ever (2011 edition)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

That's two Beady Eye covers in two months, when Geir claimed they would never get one

I'm not expecting much from Noel, tbqf.

if Noel had left in 1998 I would have listened to a post-Setting Sun/Fucking In The Bushes/listing Hip Hop Don't Stop Vols 1 and 2 in his top five of the year Noel album. one imagines he's got just about enough sense to sit home burning fivers, or join FSOL on guitar, these days though

The Marquis de Sade Adu (sic), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

US rock group My Chemical Romance have taken two prizes home from this year's NME awards after winning best video and best international band.

The New Jersey group also performed at the ceremony, held at the O2 Academy in Brixton, south London.

Muse were named best British band for the second year running, while Scottish rockers scooped the trophy for best live band.

Other prizes went to Laura Marling, Hurts, Arcade Fire and Foals.

Marling, named best British female solo artist at the Brits last week, was named best solo artist, while Hurts received the best new band prize.

Arcade Fire received the best album award for The Suburbs in absentia, while Foals' Spanish Sahara was named best track.

Glastonbury was named best festival for the third year running, while Channel 4's youth drama Skins was crowned best TV show.

Foo Fighters front-man Dave Grohl received the Godlike genius award, presented last year to Paul Weller.

NME editor Krissi Murison said more than 3.5 million votes were cast by the magazine's readers.

Highlights from the event will be shown on Channel 4 on 26 February at 1125 and 2320 GMT.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

who were the scottish rockers?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

full results

The Shockwaves NME Awards 2011 winners and nominees are:

Godlike Genius: Dave Grohl

Philip Hall Radar Award: The Naked And Famous

Teenage Cancer Trust Outstanding Contribution To Music: PJ Harvey

John Peel award for Innovation: Crystal Castles

Best British Band (supported by Shockwaves)
Winners: Muse
Nominated: Arctic Monkeys, Biffy Clyro, Foals, Kasabian

Best International Band (supported by T4)
Winners: My Chemical Romance
Nominated: Arcade Fire, Kings Of Leon, The Drums, Vampire Weekend

Best Solo Artist
Winner: Laura Marling
Nominated: Florence Welch, Frank Turner, Kanye West, Paul Weller

Best New Band (supported by Boxfresh)
Winners: Hurts
Nominated: Beady Eye, Everything Everything, The Drums, Two Door Cinema Club

Best Live Band
Winners: Biffy Clyro
Nominated: Arcade Fire, Foals, Kasabian, Muse

Best Album
Winner: Arcade Fire – 'The Suburbs'
Nominated: Crystal Castles – 'Crystal Castles II', Foals – 'Total Life Forever', My Chemical Romance – 'Danger Days: The True Lives Of The Fabulous Killjoys', Two Door Cinema Club – 'Tourist History'

Best Track (supported by NME Radio)
Winner: Foals – 'Spanish Sahara'
Nominated: Cee Lo Green – 'Fuck You', Gorillaz – 'Stylo', Janelle Monae (featuring Big Boi) – 'Tightrope', Mark Ronson & The Business Intl. – 'Bang Bang Bang'

Best Video (supported by NME TV)
Winners: My Chemical Romance – 'Na Na Na (Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na)'
Nominated: Arcade Fire – 'We Used To Wait', Brandon Flowers – ‘Crossfire', Chase & Status – 'Let You Go', Gorillaz – 'Stylo'

Best Festival
Winners: Glastonbury
Nominated: Download, Reading And Leeds Festivals, T In The Park, V Festival

Best Dancefloor Filler
Winners: Professor Green – 'Jungle'
Nominated: Crystal Castles – 'Baptism', Kele – 'Tenderoni', Plan B – 'Stay Too Long', Tinie Tempah – 'Pass Out'

Best TV Show
Winner: Skins
Nominated: Misfits, Never Mind The Buzzcocks, Peep Show, The Inbetweeners

Best Film
Winner: Inception
Nominated: Get Him To The Greek, Kick-Ass, Scott Pilgrim Vs The World, The Social Network

Hero Of The Year
Winner: Lady Gaga
Nominated: Gerard Way, Julian Assange, Kanye West

Villain Of The Year
Winners: David Cameron
Nominated: Axl Rose, Justin Bieber, Nick Clegg, Simon Cowell

Most Stylish (supported by Shockwaves)
Winner: Brandon Flowers
Nominated: Hayley Williams, Lady Gaga, Liam Gallagher, Noel Fielding

Least Stylish
Winnes: Justin Bieber
Nominated: Cheryl Cole, Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Liam Gallagher

Worst Album
Winners: Justin Bieber – 'My World'
Nominated: Cheryl Cole – 'Messy Little Raindrops', Katy Perry – 'Teenage Dream', Kings Of Leon – 'Come Around Sundown', My Chemical Romance – 'Danger Days: The True Lives Of The Fabulous Killjoys'

Worst Band
Winners: Jonas Brothers
Nominated: 30 Seconds To Mars, JLS, Kings Of Leon, Tokio Hotel

Best Band Blog or Twitter
Winner: Hayley Williams
Nominated: Frank Turner, Kanye West, Lily Allen, Theo Hutchcraft

Best Book
Winner: John Lydon – 'Mr Rotten’s Scrapbook'
Nominated: Carl Barât – 'Threepenny Memoir', Jay-Z – 'Decoded', Keith Richards – 'Life', Russell Brand – 'My Booky Wook 2'

Best Small Festival (50,000 capacity or lower)
Winners: RockNess
Nominated: Bestival, Kendal Calling, Latitude, Underage Festival

Best Album Artwork
Winner: Klaxons – 'Surfing The Void'
Nominated: Foals – 'Total Life Forever', Gorillaz – 'Plastic Beach', MGMT – 'Congratulations', My Chemical Romance – 'Danger Days: The True Lives Of The Fabulous Killjoys'

Hottest Woman
Winner: Alison Mosshart
Nominated: Emily Haines, Hayley Williams, Lady Gaga, Shakira

Hottest Man
Winners: Matt Bellamy
Nominated: Alex Turner, Billie Joe Armstrong, Dominic Howard, Jared Leto

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

I actually kind of like Foals, but I do think SPanish Sahara is a total borefest of a song.

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:41 (fifteen years ago)

has axl rose done anything in particular this year?

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:45 (fifteen years ago)

did they do reading/leeds?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

I think he did a uk tour and kept people waiting for 3 hours or so before he played each night and then he only played two songs and also he was totally shit. Something like that. xp

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

in what fucked up world is matt bellamy hot!??!?

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

a teenage girls one

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

"Worst album" - yeah, because NME readers will really have taken the time to listen to full-lengths from Cheryl Cole and Katy Perry. If Alison Mosshart is a hot woman then I'm going to give up on human sexuality.

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:41 (fifteen years ago)

Complaining about who teenaged NME readers find attractive is nagl

DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:51 (fifteen years ago)

Cameron winning Villain Of The Year over Clegg raised my eyebrows a touch.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:15 (fifteen years ago)

Absolutely.

Also, Best Book is won by a vanity-priced/formatted picture book?

Mark G, Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

Cameron winning Villain Of The Year over Clegg raised my eyebrows a touch.

Except it's true. NME readers OTM.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

Also if any of you are a better authority than a load of teenage girls on whether or not dudes are hot than I apologise in advance, but otherwise STFU.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

*raises hand*

matt bellamy is definitely not hot, and is aging really badly to boot - combination of scrawn + double chin + greying stubble = NAGL

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

teenage girls didn't vote in this poll ffs. they certainly wouldn't vote for matt bellamy.

jed_, Thursday, 24 February 2011 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

I spent a good 30 seconds thinking of how I could photoshop that Liam cover into a schizophrenic nightmare vision animated .gif to post to the Noel thread. Then I realised I really can't be arsed. Someone else do it, please.

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 24 February 2011 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if Best Book has to be written by a celebrity. This shortlist doesn't say much for music writing.

DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

iirc 'your sinclair' was selling more than the nme does now when future axed it

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:36 (fifteen years ago)


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