Disco Inferno: please help me out

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Every couple of years over the last 10 or so I spot this nice looking record I've got that is 'DI go Pop'. Loads of people I've known think it's a great record but I don't buy it; at least not yet anyway. To be fair, back at the time of release my friend said that the EPs were better than the LP, but I didn't buy them so I don't know.

People have compared them with My Bloody Valentine, and I don't see that either; to me it's like comparing Jesus Jones with Underworld. It sounds a bit more like PIL's 'Metal Box' which I do think is a great record - at least, in theory.

I've got it on as I write this and to be honest it just sounds like an entire record of Revolution 9s...

I must be missing something though. I ask as I've noticed there are some fans here so I'm looking for some guidance as to how to listen to the record - for maximum enjoyment.

Still - beautiful cover though!

Keith Watson (kmw), Saturday, 23 August 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, where to begin. :-) Well, I have a standing offer to burn a copy of the five EPs for anyone who wants it, so drop me a line. As for that particular album, my thoughts (I also have a shorter and more formal take here. Unlike "Revolution 9" (I assume you're talking about the song, not John Moore's band), Disco Inferno does almost always have a straightforward lyrical structure and core vocal melody (of sorts, Ian Crause is not a melodic singer as such and doesn't pretend to be), so there's more structure there than you might initially be noticing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 August 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"D.I. Go Pop" makes much more sense after hearing the EPs. They make the album's rejection of beauty seem more deliberate.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Tim, unsurprisingly, OTM. "Second Language" came out shortly after DI Go Pop and there's NOTHING on that album which is as 'beautiful' in a Durutti Column-in-overdrive sense as said song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

at first it's muddy and claustrophobic and rattly and ratty, not unlike rev 9 i guess, and then some points of clarity pop out at you. like tinfoil in a ditch. but it's def more of a sound record than a song record. in fact, from 'a crash at ever speed' till 'even the sea sides against it' (i think that's what it's called), the thing becomes a kind of ugly 'since i left you', i stop listening actively and let it wash over me. like, er, bathing in the... ditch. the one with the tinfoil. yeah.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, You Infernal Disco Man Extraordinaire - I sent you an e-mail)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

(damn, now that i think of it, i'm pretty sure the
'since i left you' as dirty 'go pop' was a finneyism that i'm just ripping off wholesale)

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 23 August 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

QUITE RIGHT. ;-) No, more seriously -- Tim's rightly drawn a general Avalanches/DI comparison in the past, but I don't recall him phrasing it specifically that way. So give yourself some credit! Unless Tim sues you, ya bum.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 August 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't got "DI Go Pup" but "Technicolour" is the best record ever made. Maybe you should listen to that, Keith.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 24 August 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"DI Go Pup"

Ian Crause IS Barbara Woodhouse in Ol' Yeller

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 August 2003 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)

or even Love Stepping Out ?

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 24 August 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheers Nick, I'll get a hold of it and give it a listen - it seems it would be rude not to.

Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 24 August 2003 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

QUITE RIGHT. ;-) Then again, I figure everyone needs to hear everything by DI ever. Technicolour is a more 'traditional' album -- this was after all DI's gear had been stolen and so they were building up again from ground zero, but in a different direction.

What really still intrigues/amazes me is that we're almost ten years on from DI Go Pop and the associated records and that while all the equipment that the band so painstakingly used and the potential sounds and approaches they came up with can now be collected and duplicated on a laptop without a worry, I have yet to hear the band that really approaches their style and sound outside of the Avalanches. I think the sense of limitations turning into a forcing of themselves to try something different/more may well mean that DI will end up being unique, but we'll see.

Also, cheers to everyone who has contacted me about the EPs. :-) I am always happy to share and have already burned a slew of copies, and will be responding in e-mail shortly. This is something I just always end up doing on a regular basis because there doesn't seem to be any other resource for them or interest in rereleasing them -- the Aus/NZ crew who I met last year will remember me slinging around copies like there was no tomorrow!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 August 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, it's strange I've often thought the same thing. I remember having a conversation with my mate about this sort of thing when Screamadelica came out (same guy who tried to get me to like Disco Inferno back then). I loved how the percussion on "Higher than the sun" was all just strange noises, it was great. We talked about how it seemed like there were loads of possibilities; but yeah, ten years on hardly anyone appears to have capitalized on this.

I guess it's nice in one respect - maybe someone will yet do this - the Lord knows music could do with an injection of excitement at the moment.

Ned - I will force feed myself "DI go pop" all week. I had it on this morning and started to like the last couple of tracks.

Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 24 August 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, there are plenty of big songs around with strange noises for beats and all, as the past few years has aptly demonstrated, just in an explicitly pop/hip-hop context. And maybe that's where it will stay for a while yet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 August 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

*snaps out of drift listening to "Love Stepping Out"*

Every time I listen to the extended instrumental beginning I am convinced I am hearing the most beautiful music in the world. And that just makes what Crause is singing all the more amazing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 August 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i agree entirely with ned (who was kind enough to help me complete my disco inferno collection some time ago!) about "love stepping out" - along with "second language", in the top 10 of my favourite songs ever....after getting a hold on the technicolour outtakes (6 songs), i was wondering if there was still any chance for more unreleased material floating around?

chomicat, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
"technicolour outtakes (6 songs)" = Mixing It session?
or is this something far more enviable...?

doug watson (solid air), Sunday, 16 November 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the technicolour outtakes are different from the mixing it sessions.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 November 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And how come you have these beautiful outtakes and I do not? Er, he asked politely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 November 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

the songs are :

1. where did i go wrong (mix 1)
2. drowned out
3. untitled
4. keep it together
5. swing
6. where did i go wrong (mix 2)

they do sound like outtakes, i.e. perhaps not entirely finished, and the sound quality isn't great. sadly i don't have enough web space to host the 6 songs, but i can upload 2 at the time.

i hope this works (limited bandwidth) -

http://homepage.mac.com/san_micho/Drowned_Out.mp3
http://homepage.mac.com/san_micho/Where_Did_I_Go_Wrong.mp3

(many thanks to rf, who i hope won't mind i post these.)

chomisan, Sunday, 16 November 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i had no trouble getting those off soulseek a couple months ago

thom west (thom w), Sunday, 16 November 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, thanks to the accursed Ned and his aformentioned Aust/NZ distribution of the 5 EPs, I have found one of my favourite bands of all time.

It's possible to get all of their stuff off Soulseek, and I recommend the early 'In Debt' era stuff as well, though it's no indication of the amazing stuff that was to come. I would buy all their stuff if I could ever find it.

stuff is the word of the day.

Sasha (sgh), Monday, 17 November 2003 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks to the accursed Ned

I am evil, EVIL! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Lovely stuff, Chomisan. Can we have some more?

doug watson (solid air), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this thread was an appeal to the fire brigade.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

You kind cuddly man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Ned, I've been enjoying these albums for months and months, but I was wondering if you'd be so kind as to post a tracklist on this thread for the edification of us fortunate burnees?

Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

The Five EPs:

1. Summer's Last Sound
2. Love Stepping Out
3. From the Devil to the Deep Blue Sea
4. A Rock to Cling To
5. The Last Dance
6. DI Go Pop
7. The Long Dance
8. Scattered Showers
9. Second Language
10. The Atheist's Burden
11. At the End of the Line
12. A Little Something
13. It's a Kid's World
14. A Night on the Tiles
15. Lost in Fog

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

magic!

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Mayhem!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

wikkidlush!

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure, if you insist.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i heard a disco inferno album (technicolor) and it was awful.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

D'oh!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe that's because you're an idiot.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(okay, not really.)

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

is that the only one you've heard cozen?

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, that's the only one i've heard; i didn't like it one bit. i'd have to listen to it again to maybe say why but yeah didn't do anything for me and i thought it would (after n. and rjg saying nothing but good things about it in the pub one night).

idiozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

hah is that what technicolor is named for?

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Ned!

Oh, Cozen, and if you've got a spare copy of that laying around, ya know, we can probably arrange something...

Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

my flatmate bought it for like £1 in a record store clearout. i'll see what i can do, clarke.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be incredible, Cozen! E-mail me if you have any luck...

I cannot understand why this band hasn't been canonized. Is it just a case of wrong place/wrong time? Are people really that cloth-eared? Their records gush genius, almost flauntingly.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

How do they get such a cool guitar sound on "Love Stepping Out"??? Is that even a guitar? It actually sounds more like a harp or something. Is that a sample?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I cannot understand why this band hasn't been canonized.

Well also keep in mind they were barely PUBLICIZED. The only reason I heard about them at all was strictly the UK press, specifically Melody Maker thanks to Simon Price, Simon Reynolds and David Stubbs (and Neil Kulkarni now that I think about it -- gave "Second Language" single of the week). In Debt fell out of print in the UK after Che collapsed and only half emerged in the States on the Coctails' label of all things, DI Go Pop did get a near simultaneous release sorta on Bar-None in 1994 here and that's how I ended up interviewing Crause (and WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I FIND THE TAPE DAMMIT but that's another story), but that was about it, they never toured and didn't make much of a splash. You really had to know who they were by digging, and they just missed out of a potential net buzz by a few years when the technology to share music got suitably entrenched.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

3. From the Devil to the Deep Blue Sea
4. A Rock to Cling To

Are you SURE that's not the wrong way around?

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I've NEVER been entirely sure. But that's the way I think of them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha yes that's what it's name for cozen)

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(i thought about calling it "love stepping out" but a. i don't and b. "technicolor" seemed more open ended)

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

you coulda called it technicolor yawn

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

just kiddin

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

When DI Go Pop came out on Bar None I was in college and the Wire went on about it and people at my college(oberlin) all got very excited about it, so Disco Inferno have big following amongst our ilk. I've met a few others equally obsessed. I always saw them as some kind of digital This Heat, like doing with samplers what This Heat did with tapes, and mixing the avant with the pop.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't realize In Debt went out of print so quickly. I bought a new (Ché) copy from a Richmond record store in like 2001 -- God it must've been sitting on the shelves for years! Still working on Technicolour and the individual EPs -- I'm not exactly super-scrounging (not really my style), but my eyes and ears are *always* perked for them.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my. Oh god. Oh wow.
Ned, is it too late to request one of your wonderful cds, hmm?

oliver craner, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course it's not too late. This is a permanent standing offer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Technicolour is the least interesting DI album for me as well. It doesn't measure up to the glory that is In Debt and the EPs. Even DI Go Pop aren't as good as the EP releases. Eventually this stuff will all get a decent remastering and rerelease, hopefully. I was not bowled over by Crause's solo EPs.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Eventually this stuff will all get a decent remastering and rerelease, hopefully

Vinita at Rocket Girl told me she was able to secure the rights to the Che stuff, including "Summer's Last Sound/Love Stepping Out," but that Rough Trade still has all the rights to the other EPs. Hrm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, listening to this now maybe i was a touch hasty. would it be cheeky for me to ask you extend your offer to me too, ned? :)

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

No, no, Cozen! You *hate* the stupid Disco Inferno music, and you give the Technicolour CD to meeeee, you see?

Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping Cozen would see the light!

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i just copied it onto my hard-drive but stupidly i said to my friend who asked why i wanted to listen to it again 'um, my friend says it's the 'best album ever made'' and now he wants a re-listen. if he doesn't like, and i don't think he will, i think we can swing it. a copy is easily doable but i'm sure you'd prefer the cd, which i'm willing to part w. even if i do like it.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

[sigh of relief] -- Seriously though, Cozen, that's super-kind of you, and I appreciate the effort a ton.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

can anyone do a CD80 list?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I was not bowled over by Crause's solo EPs.

interesting, because i like them both the best out of all his stuff. but then it is pretty much as indiepop as you're going to get.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping Cozen would see the light!

It is glorious. :-)

can anyone do a CD80 list?

Er um uh. That would require me looking up exact times and I'm lazy right now. But let's assume this:

Emigre
Waking Up
Fallen Down the Wire
Summer's Last Sound
Love Stepping Out
From the Devil to the Deep Blue Sea (or whichever one on that single is the one starting with that sudden abrupt beginning)
The Last Dance
DI Go Pop
In Sharky Water
New Clothes for the New World
Starbound: All Burnt Out and Nowhere to Go
Even the Sea Sides Against Us
Second Language
At the End of the Line
It's a Kid's World
Lost in Fog

...for now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

would it be cheeky for me to ask you extend your offer to me too, ned? :)

Oh right, forgot to respond to this. Yes, drop me a line.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

My CDR of the EPs runs like this...

1. From The Devil To The Deep Blue Sea
2. The Last Dance
3. D.I. Go Pop
4. Love Stepping Out
5. It’s A Kid’s World
6. The Atheist’s Burden
7. At The End Of The Line
8. Summer’s Last Sound
9. A Little Something
10. Lost In Fog
11. A Night On The Tiles
12. The Long Dance
13. A Rock To Cling To
14. Second Language
15. Scattered Showers

It has a lovely flow to it. Or something. I even made my own cover with a picture I'd taken of some red&blue fireworks. Rar!

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Very nice, that. I myself am a slave to chronology.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a shameless rockist at heart. Everythign has to have a 'flow', as if it were a real album.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

MADMAN

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I know.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Technicolor the best of their records cos it is DI actually going pop!

When I saw them live just before they split up they were doing a song called "Karate" - I wonder if this ever surfaced under another name? I can't remember anything about it other than it being fantastic - nothing they were playing that night sounded remotely like anything on either DI Go Pop or Technicolor. (It sounded better actually.)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

nothing they were playing that night sounded remotely like anything on either DI Go Pop or Technicolor. (It sounded better actually.)

Tom you shouldn't be allowed to say things like that.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't even that drunk when they were playing (later on that night, my goodness yes, so I can't remember any of the very interesting things Krause was telling me about the stuff they were writing, he wanted it to be like the Beach Boys as I recall). I think what it was was that they were doing DI Go Pop style things but had learned how to make them really sound good live whereas on that album the samples and the song-actions triggering the samples (strumming etc.) have always sounded quite separate to me. Like there were 'songs' there which were having to fight against the crushing backdrop of samples - very effective in its own way, but the stuff I heard live that evening sounded like Krause etc. had managed to work out how to use the triggering-effects to form hooks in their own right, so you were hearing stuff that had the structure and impact of really good, hooky pop while actually sounding like nothing on earth. When Technicolor came out it was a little closer to that but IIRC most of their equipment had been nicked and theyd been forced to do a much less dense and more song-based record than they had originally intended. That might have been post-facto justification, I don't know. Or it might have been that they were just amazing live!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

See? You've really pissed me off now.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't let hate overcome you, Kcin. I've had to resign myself to the fact I could never have seen that show for years now!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Please, call me Llahtuos; there's no need for formalities here.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, prepping up the latest batches of burns -- for Cozen, Oliver and Dan Selzer. Anyone else?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 31 January 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Erm, I don't want to impose, but I would like to be added if possible (I am in the UK), as I really want to hear this band... (I never have, bizarrely) :)

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 1 February 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

No worries, drop me a line to my e-mail with your mailing address and I'll burn ya up a copy tonight.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 February 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

If I asked for the same deal as Tom May, is there anything you want in return? Bearing in mind that a) I'm in Ghana and b) am shit at anything to do withh postage and repaying kindness.

Barima (Barima), Sunday, 1 February 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, ned, if you could see your way to slipping two to cozen then, perhaps, he could carry one of them around until I stumble upon him at another hipstermania night out and he could give me that one and keep the other one for himself.

I mean, could you send an extra one to cozen that he could pass on, to me, ned?

thanks a lot!!

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 February 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It can be done, RJG. Barima, shoot me your address plz.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

'hipstermania'!!! haha

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

otm

and, thanks ned!

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks Ned, super generous of ya.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yez is welcome.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought In Debt on Ebay today. Haven't found DI Go Pop yet, but I'm a-lookin'.

Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

One for me too, please Ned! I'll send you an email.

Bill E (bill_e), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks! I'll probably have to stop this for the moment, but next month I can get a new batch ready, so if anyone comes across this a bit late, patience. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, this latest batch of CDRs is now out in the mail so everyone should hopefully get theirs soon -- everything was done air mail and it was pretty cheap, rah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i still can't believe it, but i ordered a copy of technicolour from one of those dodgy import houses off amazon.com marketplace and they actually had a copy and sent it to me!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 2 February 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks a lot, ned!

thanks, cozen.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

...i just wanna thank ned for making the cdr available! makes a great soundtrack for an evening stroll .

william (william), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

:-) Glad you liked it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd ask you for one of those CDRs Ned, but my system won't play 'em. Stupid machine...

Still, they'll be re-released one day won't they? I mean, there is a God isn't there?

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

How sucky! Here's the breakdown rerelease-wise -- as I muttered above, the rights to "Summer's Last Sound/Love Stepping Out" EP, as well as the earlier songs on In Debt, now belong to Vinita at Rocket Girl, who is considering what to do with them. The four EPs that followed, though, were all on Rough Trade, so should Mr. Travis and company want to put together something, that would be nice.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got In Debt winging it's way to my house as we speak, and I'm looking forward to it's arrival. I've been out-bidded on DI Go Pop a couple of times on Ebay now, though. Other people suck.

I think I'll e-mail this Tavis guy and offer myself to him if he re-releases the EPs...

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Geoff Travis. He might regard you bemusedly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

He's sitting on a whole heap of great stuff and doesn't appear to be in any hurry to re-release any of it.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I have heard of this 'Scritti Politti'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

SHOCKING NEWS: NED IS WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING.

I e-mailed a nice man at Rough Trade Records who told me that in fact One Little Indian have the rights to those particular records.

Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Well that's good, bug them! They have enough Bjork money around somewhere!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah, "Bjork money". You're right, and she's got boxed sets and stuff now too.

I have sent them an e-mail. If they still refuse to re-print them, I'm going to start an online petition.

Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Ask them to reissue Technicolour with the unreleased tracks referred to above as well and I think we're onto something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

One Little Indian own the rights to pretty much everything that Rough Trade still owned when it last went kaput IIRC.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

damnit I used to see di go pop and in debt around used ALL THE TIME. I should have bought them all. if you're still looking, try gemm.com and musicstack.com; tracking down the actual eps is a little harder.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

ned's cd came in the mail, it's beautiful.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I am in fact going to be interested in everyone's reactions to it all (and remember, the tracklisting is posted upthread).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Strangely enough I purchased this when it came out, partly I think becasue I liked Rough Trade's gear, but it didn't stick. So this thread has convinced me to put it on again. Daft git that I am.

mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Please forgive the question coming from someone totally new to this band, but from a cursory listen DI Goes Pop seems a bit indebted to Dome, no? Esp. coming after the more song-oriented earlier material, i.e. are they working off of the Wire-becomes-industrial-dirge model? Just curious, does this make any sense, etc.

no opinion, Saturday, 7 February 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

There's definitely Wire sonic connections/inspirations; I tend to think of DI Go Pop as a revamp of 154 in ways.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

ha synchronicity almost

this arrived in the post today. much difft from technicolor huh?

rjg fix up look sharp.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Play it and find out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

My mum says it arrived a few days ago. Nice one, Ned!
The big question is who's going to fly it over for me and when.

Barima (Barima), Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, thanks so much for this and In Debt.

Why does everyone dismiss the first album so? Because it wasn't as sophisticated as D.I. Go Pop or the EPs? It still sounds fabulous.

From my one listen through, "D.I. Go Pop" sounds like the best song on the EPs--just unlike anything else I've ever heard. "Waking Up," the only song of theirs I knew, is wonderful, but it wasn't the half of it, really.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yez is welcome (both you and Barima). The In Debt material is great, "Emigre" and of course "Waking Up" are both spectacular, it just lives up to its name most of the time whereas what followed is like another world. And "DI Go Pop" the song is a mindblower, no question.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Emigre definitely seemed like the best one on the album.

It's nice that you wrote the AMG reviews on the EPs. Negates the need for me to ask for your opinions on those.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"A Night on the Tiles" is wonderfully... what is the word? Expressive, I think, of aural levity and the dazed quality of a night out. For me, "The Last Dance" and the even more glistening "The Long Dance" (variation/extension of the former) stand out as a great melody, and deeply felt.

Durutti Column (maybe snatches of that "Return Of..." debut) and the Chameleons are definitely vague comparison points. Also, they're at times like an avant-Go-Betweens, with tracks like "The Atheist's Burden"; its melody and the singer's voice carry that Go-Betweens lilt.
There are very pleasing connections for me in the use of sound, with the debut Matt Johnson record, "Burning Blue Soul"; vocals certainly less demonstrative though. "At The End of The Line" I'd suggest was one of those that reminds me at fleeting moments of BBS; a similarly thick, crystalline texture.

Overall, they seem to have a genuinely original sound, and crucially can't be easily pigeonholed. It is a sundazed, avant-pop, I guess... but such a statement doesn't do them justice, esp. considering that within these 5 EPs there is quite a variety of approach.

He he... just listening to "It's A Kid's World", around the 3:30 mark 'til the fade; the Peter Howell Dr Who theme is sampled, is it not? :-) Who would have thought "Lust For Life" could be so productively combined with that...?

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

It's nice that you wrote the AMG reviews on the EPs. Negates the need for me to ask for your opinions on those.

I seem to remember Andy Kellman first e-mailing me four years back expressing a bit of jealousy that I ended up doing those before he did! He got to do Loop, though, so we're even. ;-) Glad to hear more copies have arrived!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh hey Tom.

I got your I Love the 90s stuff yesterday. Thanks for getting it in.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

It is a sundazed, avant-pop, I guess... but such a statement doesn't do them justice, esp. considering that within these 5 EPs there is quite a variety of approach.

I think it's even more telling thanks to a fantastic comment way upthread by Tim Finney about _DI Go Pop_ (the album):

"D.I. Go Pop" makes much more sense after hearing the EPs. They make the album's rejection of beauty seem more deliberate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

How different is D.I. Go Pop from the other stuff?

And why'd you send In Debt, but not that?

(Just curious because I thought that was supposed to be their definitive work)

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I sent In Debt because you asked me specifically! ;-) DI Go Pop is quite fantastical and if you go up to my first post on the thread right at the top, you'll find links to two separate reviews I did of it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been totally overdosing on the Five EPs lately. Ned I am still eternally indebted to you for this mammoth mission of yours.

"The Long Dance"/"The Last Dance" is def. one of the only pieces of music that brings tears to my eyes every time without fail. "Second Language" is prettier overall but damn if the sudden explosions of guitar colour at the end of the former isn't the most gorgeously bittersweet thing ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Always glad to help. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

ditto on the overdosement - and ned sent me mine a while ago (i'm the guy in portland, ned)

anyways, i usually profess not really to care about lyrics in rock music but damn if mr. crause doesn't spit (uh is that the right verb in this context) some of the most arresting lyrics i've heard in a while. especially on "summer's last sound." great delivery too! he's like a more nonchalant, apocalyptic barney sumner. and the coda to "it's a kid's world" is like one of the most achingly gorgeous minutes or so of music EVER. ian, aside from having a severely underrated band, must be one of the most underrated guitarists as well. i covet his tone

hjdsl, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Must dig out the vinyl EPs when I get home next. They're fantastic records. Are they rarities now Ned? The covers should be put up on AMG. Still think "Footprints in Snow" is their masterstoke -- I've said it before on here but it's the most nostalgic sounding track of the 90's.

David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they rarities now Ned?

They're out of print at least. How hard they are to find is anyone's guess (the Rough Trade stuff that is -- "Summer's Last Sound"/"Love Stepping Out" went out of print so quickly that I only got my copy [as did Donut Bitch his] thanks to Vinita J. from Che/Rocket Girl as a personal gift).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"D.I. Go Pop" makes much more sense after hearing the EPs. They make the album's rejection of beauty seem more deliberate.

Not to harp on the issue, but this again makes me think of Dome rather than "154." "154" is "154" precisely because the abstract sonic explorations alternate with unbelievably catchy and lushly produced pop. Knowing Wire's studio and songwriting expertise, one can hear Dome as a rejection or perversion of it. I'm interested in "D.I. Go Pop" and very intrigued by the EP's (got them via slsk pretty easily!), but "Go Pop" is hard on the listener in a way 154 only begins to be.

But if you want to elaborate on the comparison I'd be fascinated to read (I did look at the AMG already).

no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, thanks for promoting this stuff here, I probably never would have heard of it otherwise.

no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

hard on the listener

Weird thing is I don't think it is, but then again I'm not every listener.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Just out of curiousity, does anyone know what birdsong they use throughout "Summer's Last Sound"?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Weird thing is I don't think it is, but then again I'm not every listener.

How then did you understand the "deliberate rejection of beauty" description (I know it wasn't yours, but you seemed to approve)?

no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I don't equate a rejection of beauty with a rejection of pop. I mean, "DI Go Pop" itself has a melody, three notes' worth, the notes being 'played' on a sample collage or the like. I've been humming it to myself like a mantra for the past ten minutes!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(To Mike: dunno. The fansites might have more info.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW I always thought the song "D.I. Go Pop" was the band's attempt to make a digital "Feed Me With Your Kiss" - also something of an unlikely pop song.

I think what makes D.I. Go Pop a difficult album is its dourness: the second half of the record isn't really that distinct from their EP work except that it tends to remains pretty understated and greyscale - "Footprints in Snow" being the big exception obviously. Like, it would only take a transcendent guitar solo to turn "New Year" into a big pop number (by the band's standards) but they obstinately refuse to take that path. Only "A Crash At Every Speed" is actually *difficult* I reckon.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i think you can fit technicolour and d.i. go pop on one CDR, can't you?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I do believe you can, yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

they could have a 3CD box set called "a little something" and it would be complete... sigh.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I believe the Byrds song on "Summer's Last Sound" is "Feel A Whole Lot Better" fnar fnar < /maconie>.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

4 CDs could work -- _In Debt_, the EPs, _DI Go Pop/Mixing It_, _Technicolour_+unreleased demos. Fifth bonus CD: the live set from the show Tom saw.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Or failign that I could just listen to 'em all on my iPod, ESPECIALLY NOW THE FUCKER'S ARRIVED!!!! HUZZAH!!!!

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Let celebrations be thine.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW I always thought the song "D.I. Go Pop" was the band's attempt to make a digital "Feed Me With Your Kiss" - also something of an unlikely pop song.

Oh my, that's absolutely perfect! And it explains exactly why I love it so much, as well. Wow.

Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Do some work, Unterberger. You don't find me pissing about on here when I could be writing reviews of New Order records. Oh.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

TSK. Resolve your differences! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Charming, Southy, charming.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Check this: www.cduniverse.com lists reissues for DI Go Pop and Technicolour set to drop on April 20, 2004, on the Oli (?) label. The first two AR Kane lps are apparently also being brought back into print by the same folks.

Can't seem to uncover any further news...

doug watson (solid air), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ooooh, I hope those AR Kane discs include the EPs!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oli = One Little Indian?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer is OTM
But still no DI news to be found on their website. Damn.

doug watson (solid air), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, one can hope! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Tonight I've been downloading In Debt. Yesterday I ordered the Mixing It EP. On Saturday I made a 'Disco Psychosis' playlist of BP and DI tunes for the iPod. Coincidence? Or serendipity?

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

aiyo ian crause i just wanted 2 let u know ur shit is HOT! HOLLA! keep on doin ya thing BWOI, poeace

juggalo420, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I may get my copy of your disc, tomorrow, ned!!

thanks again.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Yer welcome!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Please please please random google Disco Inferno fans - there is much love for Disco Inferno and IT IS HERE. And elsewhere; i.e. use the search button. Please. Please.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

D.I. Rock

Flatfoot (Skinny), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The only D.I. that mattered.....

http://www.diunderground.com/images/diphoto.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

For a song or two, sure. *flees*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahaha...pretty accurate, actually. Let's see: "OC Life", "Johnny's Got a Problem", "Richard Hung Himself"....that's pretty much all ya need.

Still.....they were better than Disco Inferno.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there you are wrong, but I am kind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there you are wrong, but I am kind

Blind is spelled with a B and an L, not a K.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Blink-182 is spelled incorrectly in your sentence there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Blind 182 is a FAR better band name!

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

And thus we have happiness.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone reckon Radiohead completely ripped off 'Broken' (what a wonderful song) for the first single off of whatever their shitey latest album was?

I think 'In Debt' and 'Technicolour' are available off amazon.com

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm...interesting comparison, but I'd have to say no (at the least, I would think that, say, "Beautiful Day" by U2 resembles "The Sun Always Shines on TV" by a-ha far more). Partially due to the rhythm, Phil Selway (and live, O'Brien and J. Greenwood as well) are not only more forceful but working with a less straightforward time signature...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Beautiful Day" by U2 resembles "The Sun Always Shines on TV" by a-ha far more

...but only in the chorus a

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

My point, my friend. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Well, Ned, I haven't totally wrapped my head around the music, but I am certainly leading towards "overall enjoyable" at the minute. Thanks so much for sending the CD over, I turned your little enjoy message into an insert sleeve ;-).

The Grateful Burms (Barima), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM is slowly infecting the world with Disco Inferno love. I have passed on CDs or had stuff downloaded to/by at least half a dozen friends in the last few months.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
And I've finally written something about them now, too.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

First Orbital and now this?

Fuck you, Southy. Stop getting to this shit before I do.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 13 June 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You did bloody !!! and booked LCD Soundsystem!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Sunday, 13 June 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought the vinyl 12" for "From the Devil/A Rock To Cling To" for $4.00US today (at the "collector" vinyl annex in Fremont of Seattle's Sonic Boom's record chain... you guys should definitely snatch up all the rare records they have for ridiculously low prices now before their whole business model collapses in 2 months).

"A Rock To Cling To" is the shorter, guitar laden vocal track.
"From The Devil..." is the 9 minute samply, glass breaking epic.

...according to the vinyl. (who knows.. maybe the vinyl was mislabelled)

If this question was already answered before, apologies, but this is as close to an official answer as I can get from the evidence right in front of me.

(I always thought it was the other way around, personally.. the CD single doesn't make it too clear)

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 14 June 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU HAVE SHATTERED MY CRYSTAL PALACE.

I always imagined it the other way so I am right. Ner.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 June 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, here goes.

I am looking to acquire 'real' copies (on CD, but vinyl will do) of those seminal 5 EPs. I already have "It's A Kid's World" and have a copy of "Love Stepping Out" on the way. So if anyone sees any of the other three anywhere, either snap 'em up and I'll pay you back, or else point me in the right direction. Order of priority being

Second Language
The Last Dance
A Rock To Cling To

kthxbye

xx

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 14 June 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
So as I've recently been doing the honourable duty of any DI fan and trying to enthuse other people about them (it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it), it did rather get me to wondering - as I copied 'Head Over Heels' onto a CD compilation for a friend, does *anyone* know what the hell Ian Crause is doing now? Has he retired from the music industry? Has he got a proper job? Could we start a Blue Peter-style fund to get him working again, or something?

Vaughan, Friday, 16 July 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I'd guess he's being himself after those two singles, who knows...

Anyway -- making more copies of the five EPs, will be sending one to Matt DC here tomorrow. Any other takers? I know you're out there...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago)

might you a hook a proverbial brother up ned?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:08 (twenty years ago)

E-mail me yer address and all is dream.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:14 (twenty years ago)

i'd settle for the disco inferno eps

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago)

"YOU HAVE SHATTERED MY CRYSTAL PALACE.
I always imagined it the other way so I am right. Ner.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), June 14th, 2004."

Ha! I was right!

How more allmusic.com errors do I have to pick out before I win a date with you, Ned?

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:41 (twenty years ago)

I tried to look to allmusic to find some other opinion on DI than Ned's.

Ha! Ha!

Anyways, I shall send you my address, Ned. This seems like too great an opportunity to pass up.

lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:55 (twenty years ago)

I love the way Crause says/sings 'At the end of the line' around the 3 minute mark in that song.

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, anybody looking for "A Rock To Cling To" single should go to www.101cd.com to be pleasantly surprised.

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:20 (twenty years ago)

How more allmusic.com errors do I have to pick out before I win a date with you, Ned?

You actually have to pay for the cost of the plane ticket.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, anybody looking for "A Rock To Cling To" single should go to www.101cd.com to be pleasantly surprised.

Oh shit, thank you! D.I. vinyl is criminally hard to find.

jsk baby (jsk baby), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Theres some guy on ebay selling two copies of "summer's last sound". Must be Ian Crause right?

This threads new mission should be to track down copies of every EP.

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)

NED I would like a copy of yr DI EPs cd if possible. I will email you my address. Much love, Nick.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Thank ya. And Amst, haven't gotten yer address yet.

I am listening to "Second Language" right now and am contenter than content.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)

"So now you know what happens
When blood fills your cup
At the end of the line
There's always up."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago)

why are Crause's solo EPs so mediocre? pleasant, sort of Church-lite alterna-pop. but, really, it boggles the mind. and has Floorshow or Lisp been heard from?

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago)

The first DI CD "In Debt" is one of my favorite things ever. I have not been able to understand why so many people rave over "DI Go Pop". It certainly was a completely different style to their early stuff. Summer's Last Sound was a pretty good single, though. Maybe I should check out these EP's...

Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I suppose Ian Crause's two solo EPs *are* kind of mediocre. But having said that, ever since I downloaded 'Head Over Heels' from Epitonic (since I'll be damned if I can find the EP anywhere to actually buy), I've been rather addicted to listening to that title track. Again and again and again.

Vaughan, Sunday, 19 September 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago)

"The first DI CD "In Debt" is one of my favorite things ever. I have not been able to understand why so many people rave over "DI Go Pop". It certainly was a completely different style to their early stuff. Summer's Last Sound was a pretty good single, though. Maybe I should check out these EP's...

-- Bimble (grippledybu...), September 14th, 2004."

Pedantry I know, but it's a compilation of their first single, first album, and an EP (plus 'Broken' which was previously unreleased.

The stuff on 'In Debt' *is* indeed great, but it doesn't have the same groundbreaking sampling and stuff that features in 'D.I. Go Pop'.

Sasha (sgh), Monday, 20 September 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago)

I think Technicolour is my favourite album by DI, because it has all the crazy sampling going on but isn't afraid of hooks and choruses in the way that DI Go Pop seems to be. Certainly the EP tracks seem to strike a balance between pop (Technicolour) and avant (DI Go Pop) which i would have liked to have seen them capitalise on for a long-player.

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Monday, 20 September 2004 06:29 (twenty years ago)

I just won a "summers last sound" 12" on ebay.

I paid £9.

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
Still need real CD copies of these;

Second Language
The Last Dance

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

So you got the others... Good stuff.

KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Aye. But the elusive ones are my favourites!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Hehe. I managed to get all but "The Last Dance", which seems to be everyone's favourite! I'll let you know if I spot any...

KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh man.

Well, a huge thank you to Ned and everyone else who evangelizes in the name of Disco Inferno. I was sold after about 20 seconds of "Love Stepping Out", but by the time I got to "Footprints in Snow"... *swoon*. Personally, I think this is a rare case where comparisons to MBV are entirely appropriate. D.I. Go Pop (the album) is especially dense, and can be at once overwhelming/crushing and incredibly delicate-- even if the sound itself isn't all guitar noise, there is a common thread to my ears. The Avalanches connection is a good one too, and to a lesser extent other sampler guys like Manitoba and Amon Tobin. But D.I. is of course quite singular in a lot of ways too. Certainly I've never heard anything for which the term "kaleidoscopic" is more fitting; in fact - probably due to the nature of the samples - it was a very "visual" listen overall, as long as I'm getting into totally subjective non-descriptions. Enough rambling though.

Question: the mp3s I have of the two EPs that come immediately after D.I. Go Pop don't appear to match up to the descriptions on AMG. For example my "Atheist's Burden" is the one with the big fat booming drum loop, and my "Second Language" has the lyric "taught a little song to only sing when things were going horribly wrong" etc. Would someone mind posting the tracklisting of these two EPs, track lengths included? Here's what I have:

Second Language
1 Second Language [3:00]
2 The Atheist's Burden [4:38]
3 At the End of the Line [2:53]
4 A Little Something [5:06]

It's a Kid's World
1 It's a Kid's World [4:48]
2 A Night on the Tiles [3:59]
3 Lost in Fog [4:22]

Thanks in advance.

sleep (sleep), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Those tracklistings are correct in order, not sure about the times.

The one with the big drum loop is "It's A Kid's World". The lyric you quoted is from "A Little Something".

"The Athiest's Burden" has a weird gloopy Aphex Twin-like 4/4 beat, woozy guitars and starts with the lyric "I took a hell of a chance and it's paid of handsomely.'

"At The End of the Line" is all shimmering guitars and strong, melancholy bass, a bit like Bark Psychosis meets late-era The Church. Probably the most out-and-out beautiful thing DI did.

"A Night On The Tiles" is the weird sample-based one with Edith Piaf and glasses breaking.

"Lost In Fog" is the dark ambient one with lyrics about how "we all live underground".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Now why didn't I recognize that was Piaf? You learn something new every day! Rah for Tim and his excellent capsule takes. :-)

I'd say the semi-secret ingredient in the 'beautiful' DI songs like "At the End of the Line" is the Durutti Column, but that would be only part of it. I think somewhere in that where-the-HELL-is-it interview I did with Crause he copped to being a massive fan.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah Durutti Column on course. I just said The Church because the bit where bass comes in reminds me of their "Ricochet".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

Thanks a lot, Tim! Much appreciated.

Ahh, still a bit starry eyed :) Oh transience, you haven't got me yet.

sleep (sleep), Saturday, 8 January 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Okay, so tommorow i'm getting THIS logo:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0001XAQ32.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

tattooed on my stomach.

before i do this, does anybody know if that is the symbal for anything?

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

It'll be the symbol for slight craziness. (Trust me, I appreciate the impulse.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

i've always loved that symbol and that album and band. And given their relative obscurity i thought it would be a nice idea.

my first tattoo, btw.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

On your stomach though? Isn't that like the first thing to go eventually?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

i have really small arms though, and they will probably get bigger and warm any future tattoos.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...
I now have all of the EPs apart from "The Last Dance" which I have nevewr see4n on sale anywhere online, not eBay, not Musicstack, not Gemm, not Netsounds, not fucking anywhere.

Help me Obi Wan Kenobe, you're my only hope.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 October 2005 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

I've been trying to get them all for about a year too but embarassingly the only one i have is 'summer's last sound'

but i do have that one on 12" and cd.

Googley Asearch (Toaster), Monday, 10 October 2005 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, you really should be embarassed

jake b. (cerybut), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

your mother wasn't embarassed when i played her 'Love's Stepping Out' and took her under the silky moonlight.

Googley Asearch (Toaster), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Okay, got a few more CDRs out to people -- any more requests?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 December 2005 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

I still need an original CD single copy of The Last Dance if anyone's seen one, y'know, hanging around.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 December 2005 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

HEY IAN CRAUSE THIS IS WILL AND IM A BIG FAN OF YOURS WANT TO KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HEAR MY DEMO YOUR MY HERO HOLLA111!!!! ALSO CAN I GET A EMAIL FOR YOUR COUSIN WHY BECAUSE HE LOOK INERERESTING

pattyckaes256@aol.com, Thursday, 1 December 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

Sir Ned, I shouldn't mind a cdr of the EPs. Any chance? If yes, I will email you my address etc. Ta!

Dr.C, Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

Go right ahead!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, got three mails here, any more?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, definitely- been dying to hear the EPs. I'll email my address, thanks!

Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

I hope the offer is still good.

van igloo (van smack), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Ned! You're a champ. got the cd yesterday.

I listened to it on my commute to LA. Awesome stuff

van igloo (van smack), Friday, 9 December 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

I just got my Disco Inferno CD this afternoon, courtesy of Ned. I came to D.I. by way of "D.I. Go Pop" so, from what I gather, kind of backwards. I've read to that after hearing the EPs, "D.I. Go Pop" makes more sense. "D.I. Go Pop" made perfect "sense" to me, so the EPs sound equally good on first impression. Thanks, Ned!

skoolbus39 (skoolbus39), Saturday, 10 December 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yez is welcome. Any favorite songs in particular yet?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 07:21 (nineteen years ago)

So far... "From The Devil To The Deep Blue Sky," "D.I. Go Pop" (I'm a sucker for sounds bending in and out of pitch), and "It's A Kid's World." I'm not as impressed with the "Second Language" EP, but everything else is top-notch!

skoolbus39 (skoolbus39), Saturday, 10 December 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, is that offer still good?

js (honestengine), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

It is a permanent standing offer. Drop me your address via e-mail.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I'm the only person to prefer 'DI Go Pop' to the EPs?

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, you are a great man.

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

It's just something that has to be done, really.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Received today, Ned. Many thanks! I think you emailed the tracklisting, but I haf lost it oh no! Any chance you could post it again, or e-mail me? Sorry to be an arse.

Dr.C, Monday, 12 December 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wait - I have it!! Ignore previous.

Dr.C, Monday, 12 December 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

not impressed with second language, yeesh ...

IM sometimes i like DI GO POP better than the EPs; its more confrontational on the one hand but is also a nicely sequenced, compact album, which when im in the right mood is another advantage.

js66676, Monday, 12 December 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I'm the only person to prefer In Debt to the EPs?

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 December 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer In Debt too, but I can easily see why people prefer the EPs. There's just a lot more going on on most of the songs, and so many unique sounds. But the early stuff has more of an immediacy to it, and is closer to the balance I like in their music. I never got into some of the weirder songs on the EPs, like "From the Devil" and "Scattered Showers".

Oh poor Second Language EP... that is probably my favorite thing they did!

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 12 December 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

I never got into some of the weirder songs on the EPs, like "From the Devil" and "Scattered Showers".

You're fired. Er, wait. ;-)

It's odd about In Debt for me -- I played it to DEATH on original release (I was lucky enough to be in the UK shortly after it came out and though I'd not heard anything by them I had heard enough about them -- credit to Simon Price and David Stubbs in particular -- to know I would love it), but I haven't pulled it out for listening in years, despite my very high regard for many of those early songs. "Fallen Down the Wire" is in retrospect astonishingly underrated.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 December 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Just received Ned's burned copy of the EPs this weekend. One of the things I think I like most about DI is, when I listen to their songs, my attention is sort of diffused across the track- there's no one element that my ears really train in on excessively. Although, having said that, there are some tracks where the guitar is just drop-dead gorgeous and it's hard not to just stand back (metaphorically) in wonder. Anyway, enjoying the EPs very much- thanks a ton, Ned.

Kevin H (Kevin H), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yer welcome!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite song from the 5 eps, is probably "Love Stepping Out". A close second is "Scattered Showers" -- love the kitty moan.


van igloo (van smack), Saturday, 17 December 2005 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, I came across this thread before but I don't think I asked for candy before like I meant to. Can I have disco inferno candy please? It's the holidays.

I can boast posession of a handwritten letter from many years ago from Ian Crause but never mind. Please give me the candy.

Halloween Spooky Party Hints! (Bimble...), Saturday, 17 December 2005 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone's on Oink, I uploaded the 5 eps.

fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Saturday, 17 December 2005 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever happened to the D.I lyrics thread? we were so close to getting them all I felt.

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 17 December 2005 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

i think the kitty moan is just the car sound sped up!?@?!?!?!??!?!?!?!>??!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!

njksd, Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

at some point i will also take you up on this one, ned. but it'll be next year. if you're ok with that?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

I was just wondering what the availability of DI albums is?

I've been listening to DI Go Pop on and off for a year and it is clearly great and wanted to get hold of more stuff.

Technicolour having been re-released is probably get-able, whereas the EPS seem impossible to get from what I read here, what about the first album/In Debt?

Rob Cameron, Sunday, 18 December 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

i got in debt used off amazon.com for $2

jk85558, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

at some point i will also take you up on this one, ned. but it'll be next year. if you're ok with that?

Only just noticed this -- the answer is 'not a problem.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 December 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
No, really Grimly, it isn't a problem. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

heheheh. where was i over christmas? thanks, ned. let's DO THIS THANG. er: how do we go about it?

e-mail me :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for all the information. I've got DI Go Pop, The Five EPs, and In Debt. Is Technicolour the only one left?

Harpal (harpal), Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

I have still never found an original CD copy of The Last Dance. This makes me sad.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

It makes me sad too.

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Thursday, 2 February 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

i now have two copies of summer's last sound that both have CD rot and won't play.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

I have still never found out how to play the guitar to "Love Stepping Out". This makes me sad.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

geez, the the last dance 12" is going for a mint on ebay - really love a copy to play "the long dance" w/, sigh. at least it seems to be going to, um, an australian who loves OMIT(!?).

etc, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

did all this stuff come out on re-issue? if not how come?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

The EPs didn't. Thus my eternal task of burning CDRs. :-)

Speaking of which, I know a certain grimly fiendish has received a little something in the mail. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
and he promised he'd report back here, didn't he?

to tell the truth, what can i say? it was reading about DI here that made me tap up alext for a copy of "... go pop", which i remember him raving about when we were at university but i never really "got" ...

... but best part of a decade on, it all suddenly made a frightening amount of sense.

and then the EPs; where do i start? it's not the kind of music i can write about, to tell the truth. i can't get a handle on it yet. there's so much going on; so much sound; so many ideas; so much beauty; so much anger; just ... so MUCH. fucking incredible, basically. the kind of music i will never tire of listening to.

maybe eventually i'll get my head round disco inferno. but i kinda hope not. i like what they do to me.

i'm just annoyed it's taken me this long to appreciate it.

anyway: ned, thank you very much indeed. and i hope you've enjoyed what i sent you in return.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

(and at some point i'm gonna spend a good bit of time over at the lyrics thread, deciphering.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

:-) It was a more than fair gift in exchange, sir. Glad to see it knocked you sideways too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

i put them on at work after we closed and somebody called up to music to complain that the CD was skipping and please turn it off.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 2 March 2006 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
JUST WANTED TO SAY THX TO NED AND THE REST OF YOU PEEPS FOR KEEPING THE MEMORY OF ONE OF THE GREATEST BANDS EVER ALIVE!!!! I HAD FOUND MOST EVERYTHING ON CD, INCLUDING THE LAST DANCE EP CD, YES IT DOES SHOW FROM TIME TO TIME ON EBAY. THE ONLY ONE I COULDNT GET MY HANDS ON AFTER TWO YEARS SEARCH AND SEVERAL BIDS ON EBAY WAS SECOND LANGUAGE. THEN BY CHANCE I FOUND THIS PAGE AND NED IN HIS INFINITE KINDNESS IS BURNING ME ONE OFF TO SEND TO ME, I CAN ONLY HUMBLE MYSELF FOR HIS GENEROSITY, BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL AND KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE!!!!

dEvO69, Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

sorry for the caps

dEvO69, Monday, 20 March 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, no worries.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ned is a very nice man.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 20 March 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

if anyone is having problems with cd rot on your copy of summer's last sound/love stepping out pls go to this site and click on misc, once you are there. there is a big article on cd rot and what to do about it. unfortunately the discs were made in the uk by pdo in the wrong time period, ive sent off an email and will hopefully get a reply from them, will let you know. http://www.foetus.org/

dEvO69, Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have still never found The Last Dance.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

hi sick, sorry you havent been able to find it, its actually the supposed most collectible of the disco inferno cds, even though i had more probs finding second language and have actually seen second language go for much higher on ebay. ive actually seen it two times in the last year on ebay and never on a collectors site. i think i payed 24 british pounds for it, ive seen it go up to 45 so its a haphazard way of obtaining it. on ebay, make sure you search worldwide and check the other cds listings on the left hand side of the screen, that is usually where i found them. best wishes on the search i still have the original second language to track down so know how it feels, luckily ill be able to listen to it soon, thx to the ever wonderful ned :)

dEvO69, Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
just wanted to thank ned again for the five eps cd he sent to me, was so magical to hear second language again and a little something again,which are two of my favourite songs by disco inferno. thx again for the the lovely melodies ned, you are one of the few still keeping the di dream alive, best wishes to you all, signing off, dEvO69

dEvO69, Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Woops, a little late here from me, but just wanted to say you're welcome!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Finally I got the 5 EPs from Ned (black cd!!) and they´re
awesome, I expected great songs but they´re so good...
Thanks a lot, Cesc.

Cesc, Friday, 26 May 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't realise DI go Pop had been reissued until earlier this week, now I finally have it on CD!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
Ned, I am interested in the CD-R compilation if you'll send one over.

Nick, have you found the fifth original CD single yet?

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, I am interested in the CD-R compilation if you'll send one over.

Drop me an e-mail.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Nope. A 12" came up but I was gazzumped on eBay.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

do any other "Summer's Last Sound" CD-EP owners have trouble ripping the title track to a computer?...or is it just me?

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Just you? (I know that it suffers from the PDO CD rot problem, or can.)

Timely revival, in a way, as I'm working on something of potential interest. Won't surface for a little while yet, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

on this DI tip, was anybody else as let down as I was with the Lisp CD that came out several years back?...(Lisp was led by one of the non-Ian DI guys, I forget which one)...had the right producer (Mads Berke if memory serves), good graphics, intriguing song titles...but the music was just blah...and they had this horrible singer who thought he could...sing...I drug the CD out just last week to re-assess, and the years have not been kind...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'd love to hear a track or too from that.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

The Disco Inferno remix of "Sooper Kosmos" is a piece of shit too. Probably the only remix they've ever done? I finally got my hands on that two weeks ago. Now I can say I've officially listened to every Disco Inferno song ever. Yay.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...
Probably the wrong thread to ask this (no threads that I could find), but where can one find anything by Papa Sprain? Are they worth seeking out?

van smack, Saturday, 14 April 2007 03:18 (eighteen years ago)

I should mention that I finally got my mits on The Last Dance. Woohoo!

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 14 April 2007 08:11 (eighteen years ago)

the may EP by papa sprain is very delicate and beautiful, not quite like anything else. i could never track down their other EP, but it's supposedly very different in sound.

f. hazel, Saturday, 14 April 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

I've been *cough*downloading*cough some D.I. and quite liking it, but I'm confused about the track(s?) "A Rock To Cling To." Two entirely different songs with that title seem to exist, one a 9:41 instrumental and the other a 3:53 song with vocals. The latter starts abruptly, such that it almost sounds like an edit from a longer version, but the two tracks are not similar. I can't find a citation online for this latter track. Anyone? Anyone?

ctrl-s, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, this was talked about earlier in the thread (thus it behooves you to read it all ;-) ) -- for the longest time I thought "A Rock to Cling To" was the longer track, but after friend donut found the original vinyl, it turned out that was the shorter song. The abrupt start is intentional.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, thanks!

"it behooves you to read it all"

Duly noted.

ctrl-s, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:05 (eighteen years ago)

p.s. Maybe update the AMG page accordingly? :)

ctrl-s, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:18 (eighteen years ago)

Stranger has occurred.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)

So what is the longer song called? "It Behooves You to Read it All"??

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)

Nevermind!

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)

Hooray!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)

Crause actually sings the phrase "I just need a rock to cling to" at some point in the shorter of the two. The CD single packaging makes the titles difficult to judge, though. I think I need to retag in iTunes. BECAUSE I TRUSTED NED AND HE LIED TO ME.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 31 May 2007 08:22 (eighteen years ago)

Poor soul.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Hm.

RickyT sent me "the 5 eps" some time ago (or posted it online or something) and I gave it one listen, went "ooh, curious" and didnt pursue.

Now I am giving it another listen and I am extremely intrigued. I cannot find a point of reference for these guys at all. Maybe a tad AR Kane, maybe a tad GYBE, maybe a little Tear Garden... argh! It is getting into my head!

Trayce, Monday, 23 July 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh "The Last Dance" is lovely. Its like Durutti Column. I *like* this.

Trayce, Monday, 23 July 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

As grimly said upthread I hope I never really get my head around this stuff, this is awesomely complex and strange, wow.

Trayce, Monday, 23 July 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

nothing like it before or since

uptown churl, Monday, 23 July 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yes to all that (but I would say that). Though this reminds me I need to check out the Studio, which good Mr. Finney proclaims has a D.I. feel to it (and that's all the justification I need to investigate further!).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Who / what is / are The Studio?

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 23 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Behold:

The Studio - West Coast

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

I must say this has also gotten me to check out Bark Psychosis who Ive been meaning to for YEARS (literally), having heard all the ARKane/Papa Sprain comparisons.

Also VERY AWESOME. I am insane for not having checked either of these bands out sooner, my god. They are brilliant.

Trayce, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard a couple of tracks off the Studio album. It's good, but I don't really hear the Disco Inferno connection unfortunately. I guess I'm just starting to accept the fact that there isn't much out there that approaches the sound of DI.

Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

I don't hear DI in the Studio sound either...

henry s, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ya got me but there Tim's comments are and all.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I found (and bought) "Technicolour" in an Oxford Street HMV the other day! :p

Just got offed, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

hey, i found and bought "technicolour" last week!

i'm sure i'm not adding much to the discussion by just saying it's good and i like how they kind of got poppier than "go pop" while still being in the same vein. i still prefer "go pop" though.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 9 August 2007 02:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm more in love with this band by the day.

Trayce, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:52 (eighteen years ago)

Although there's still a couple songs I find a bit over-cutsey and difficult, that said, like "A Night on the Tiles".

Trayce, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:53 (eighteen years ago)

Ha well it is a b-side.

Tim F, Thursday, 9 August 2007 04:05 (eighteen years ago)

what say we all chip in and get that Floorshow LP released?

henry s, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

Floorshow?

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

the post-DI Ian Crause band, who apparently recorded an LP only to have it nixed by the record company...Robin Guthrie then remixed it, and it still got rejected...folks, it's out there, ready to go...and you know you want it!

henry s, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

I'd just like Rough Trade to gather all the five EPs and stick 'em on one CD. I'd wanna hear Floorshow too, maybe, but I wasn't struck by his solo work.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'd just like Rough Trade to gather all the five EPs and stick 'em on one CD.

And I'd love to write the liner notes!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 August 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Mr. Ned: Is that offer to burn the 5 ep's still open? I'd love them.

kwhitehead, Thursday, 9 August 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Yup, drop an e-mail with your address.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 August 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks. I just did it.

kwhitehead, Thursday, 9 August 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'd just like Rough Trade to gather all the five EPs and stick 'em on one CD.

didn't they do this in 1999?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 10 August 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

Nope.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 August 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

i've heard that album isn't very good, from someone who heard it

akm, Friday, 10 August 2007 04:42 (eighteen years ago)

is this a bootleg, then?

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/disco_inferno/the_5_e_p_s/

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 10 August 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah whats "the 5 eps" that I have then?

Trayce, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:05 (eighteen years ago)

the album I was talking about is the floorshow album

akm, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:14 (eighteen years ago)

btw

akm, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:14 (eighteen years ago)

and the 5 e.p.s comp referenced there is, yes, the same comp everyone with the e.ps winds up making (or copies of ones that people got off ned, bootlegger extraordinaire)

akm, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:15 (eighteen years ago)

I was gonna say!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:26 (eighteen years ago)

"Technicolour" going for £1.31 on amazon.co.uk new.

acrobat, Monday, 13 August 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

"Technicolour" going for £1.31 on amazon.co.uk new.

remind me never to go to hmv ever again

Just got offed, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Anyway, I gather some more folks have the EPs now...the offer, as ever, remains standing.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Can anyone help me find decent-sized images of the EP covers online? Ideally 250x250pixels plus in size? Big kisses to anyone who can help!

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:38 (seventeen years ago)

Also, wtf, this page - http://www.last.fm/event/529497 - reckons they played a gig in April???!!!

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:41 (seventeen years ago)

Found 'em!

http://lamaraba.blogspot.com/2008/05/some-disco-inferno-epssingles.html Got Love Stepping Out off emusic.

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:50 (seventeen years ago)

They still haven't released an EP comp? Such a shame... they are probably the worst band to google behind Can and Television. I'd ask Ned, but not sure how he stands on shipping to Sweden. If anyone could mail them or link or whatever, it would be much appreciated!

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 August 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

I'd be happy to send a copy! In fact I have two requests hanging fire I need to fulfill anyway.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 August 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

Is one of them mine?

S-, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

Ned, in that case you may check your mails!

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

I think it's wonderful that Ned still makes this available for folks! I don't have one, myself, though. I think I asked for one once but it wasn't convenient at the time.

Bimble, Sunday, 31 August 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

Is one of them mine?

Yup!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 August 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

A little something:

http://crumbsinthebutter.art.officelive.com/DISCO_INFERNO.aspx

(Plz to note this includes a first person essay by Mr. Crause himself -- as well as a brief bit from yours truly.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 December 2008 13:35 (sixteen years ago)

Nice, thanks!

ilxor, Monday, 8 December 2008 13:57 (sixteen years ago)

Great to read the recollections of Ian Crause. Fell in love with this band just this year and have been curious about their backstory so thanks a lot for the little something.

willem, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago)

You're most welcome!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

"far defter" though?

akm, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

It's an excerpt from a longer, unpublished piece, so I think context might explain the ending (I'd have to go back and check). Still, there's the idea that they found what one of their sources of inspiration could not, that they made it actually work.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 December 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

That was a cool article. I'm delighted when anyone appreciates Sparkle In The Rain as well.

I SYMPATHIZE HAMSTER (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 8 December 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Does anyone have any idea how I might get in touch with Ian Crause? I can't find an offical myspace page. Does one exist? There's something I need to tell him. Please.

gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 11 January 2009 19:29 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

At LONG last I have finally found the interview I did with Ian Crause back in 1994. Seriously, this tape had been eluding me forever. I'll be digitizing it and figuring out how best to share in as part of a larger project; more details soon.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2009 05:36 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

he said 4 months ago...

zingzing, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

He said indeed. The larger project is forthcoming.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Does anyone know where I could get the five e.p.s in v0? Been looking for years..

mikethegrouch, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

what is v0? i can send you flacs or something if you want.

akm, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

what is v0?
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Recommended_LAME#VBR_.28variable_bitrate.29_settings

Olivier Messiaen Control (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

I'm desperately after the 'Last Dance' and 'Second Language' EP's in lossless if anyone can help. I have 'Second Language' on vinyl and I gave up the hope of ever finding an original copy of the 'Last Dance' EP a while back. Any help would be eternally appreciated.

AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:10 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

did the person who was getting their logo tattood on themselves ever show any pictorial eveidence?

piscesx, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

i vaguely remember seeing a pic?

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Now I have the compilation I am selling my original CDs of the five EPs. If you're interested they're here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/njsouthall/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

Bump. A couple of people are watching these; I've just dropped the Buy It Now prices.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 3 October 2011 07:17 (thirteen years ago)

A gentle bump.

Zero bids still!

djh, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

Couple of watchers though. I will post to the US for an ILXor, btw.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

alright.. which ilxor outbidded me?

^_____^

difficult to adjust to ilxor being a low frequency poster (ilxor), Saturday, 8 October 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

Holy crap those EPs have plummeted in value. I remember Last Dance would set you back like 80 bucks.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 8 October 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry ilxor. I'm the guilty party. Don't hold it against me.

I heard DI for the first time about 4 or 5 years ago. In my search for the EP's I was initially lucky in finding the 'Second Language' new on vinyl from a Amazon marketplace seller for about £8 new. Not long after that I was fortunate enough to stumble upon what must have been warehouse finds of 'Summers Last Sound' and 'In Debt' for dirt cheap on CD via eBay. I then found a copy of 'A Rock to Cling To' pretty cheap on Amazon second hand. After that I managed to get a copy of 'It's a Kids World' on wax for about £10. 'The Last Dance' was by far the most difficult to track down. I searched high and low for years to no avail. If it wasn't for the formal release of the 5 Eps compilation and Sick Mouthy's decision to sell his EP's I doubt I'd ever have found it. Does any one have any idea of what kind of quantity was pressed of the EP's in the first place? It really can't have been much.

I did manage to score myself a copies of 'Open Doors, Closed Windows', the 'Science' EP and 'D.I go Pop' on vinyl on the way along. The latter in particular seems to be neigh on impossible to find.

I then bought a copy of the '5 EP's' on release date and felt a bit silly for all my desperate efforts. Still, part of me felt committed to the cause.

AnotherDeadHero, Sunday, 9 October 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

^^ sounds like you're far more committed to the cause than i am. props for beating me by $1 or so per disc! ..... i too stumbled across summer's last sound and a rock to cling to CDs for something ridiculous, like $3 apiece some cheap local undervalued pricing... snapped those up quick. i'll get the rest someday. cheers!

difficult to adjust to ilxor being a low frequency poster (ilxor), Sunday, 9 October 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

I just love that they're all back now in some form. Out of my hands completely, at last.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 October 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

maybe i should eBay my Ned Raggett-penned CDr copy..... what's it worth, i wonder? ;D

difficult to adjust to ilxor being a low frequency poster (ilxor), Sunday, 9 October 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

Great recent interview and feature on The Quietus: http://thequietus.com/articles/07144-disco-inferno-interview

Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/29/fact-mix-354-disco-inferno/

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

Feeling chuffed and perhaps a little smug to have picked up 12"s in good condition of A Rock To Cling To, The Last Dance and It's A Kid's World for £2.50 each from the usually very sharp local second hand dealer.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:07 (eleven years ago)

Fantastic score! If he's usually very sharp there's no need to feel smug imo. No one's perfect.

Tim Heckler (willem), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:12 (eleven years ago)

Indeed. Meantime, check another thread revival shortly...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:16 (eleven years ago)

wow, I've never even seen these on vinyl.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:37 (eleven years ago)

D.I. Go Pop on vinyl. Please. Please. Please.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 13 February 2014 17:50 (eleven years ago)

Yeah I was just going to post that. Would love to own D.I. Go Pop and Technicolour on vinyl.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 13 February 2014 17:57 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

A quick note that Rocket Girl are rereleasing In Debt, with a formerly unreleased cut:

https://rocketgirl.co.uk/label/release/rgirl114

https://rocketgirl.co.uk/label/release/rgirl114LP

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)

I like the new cover art!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:51 (eight years ago)

Yeah that's a neat way to acknowledge the past while doing something different. Same sleeve designer as well.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)

more of a collector's item

tho emigre is in my top 10 disco songs

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:33 (eight years ago)

yeah looking forward to this even though I have it on cd and everything else.

akm, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:10 (eight years ago)

yes but you don't have "in the cold" because it's an unreleased track! unless it's on youtube or something. I haven't checked.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:36 (eight years ago)

In Debt is their best album.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 4 March 2017 16:45 (eight years ago)

https://www.mixcloud.com/neilkulkarni5/a-new-nineties-1994-uk-edition-volume-1/

djh, Saturday, 4 March 2017 18:08 (eight years ago)

^ A nice mix. Slight shame all the jungle tracks are from the same compilation I believe, rather than a bit more varied. https://www.discogs.com/Various-Drum-Bass-Selection-2/release/97952

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 9 March 2017 09:54 (eight years ago)

I'll stop my DJ snarking now ;)

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 9 March 2017 09:54 (eight years ago)

I did enjoy that mix ... I have to confess it inspired me to make my own compilation from the same era (Insides, Disco Inferno, Spoonfed Hybrid, Acacia etc).

Snarking is okay.

djh, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:16 (eight years ago)

ten months pass...

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere else already. I just came across pre-orders on Amazon for vinyl reissues of DI Goes Pop (out on Jan 26) and Technicolor (out on Feb 23). Looking on the One Little Indian, they seem to have slightly different release dates but they are confirmed as coming soon. Amazing news!

kitchen person, Monday, 15 January 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)

dope

kolakube (Ross), Monday, 15 January 2018 04:29 (seven years ago)

Excellent news!

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 15 January 2018 10:00 (seven years ago)

Ordered DI Goes Pop it from One Little Indian as soon as I saw the post, and it has just arrived.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 12:15 (seven years ago)

Wow! It still says the vinyl will be dispatched in February on the site. I wish I could get a copy here in America that quickly.

Have you played it yet? Interested to know how it sounds. Hope they've done a good job with these.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)

I saw this post Ned shared on FB about OLI fucking over A.R. Kane, and that the vinyl re-issue of '69' is ripped from a CD. Does anyone know about D.I's relationship with OLI, or the provenance of the vinyl re-ish?

https://www.facebook.com/arkaneuk/posts/1575310215879208

@olirecords claim to have purchased our entire catalog from @RoughTradeRecs for a few pennies, in perpetuity, w'out our consent knowledge - they refuse to let the rights revert to the band - not so much #MeToo more #MyArtToo #ArtisticSlavery U ever had a powerful label rip u off?

— A.R.Kane (@InfoKane) January 2, 2018

mor frog bs (S-), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)

Ugh about A.R.Kane and OLI.

I've not had the time to listen to the LP yet, on the weekend perhaps.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:51 (seven years ago)

OLI seemingly bought up the rights to a job lot of rough trade stuff some years back

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:00 (seven years ago)


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