People have compared them with My Bloody Valentine, and I don't see that either; to me it's like comparing Jesus Jones with Underworld. It sounds a bit more like PIL's 'Metal Box' which I do think is a great record - at least, in theory.
I've got it on as I write this and to be honest it just sounds like an entire record of Revolution 9s...
I must be missing something though. I ask as I've noticed there are some fans here so I'm looking for some guidance as to how to listen to the record - for maximum enjoyment.
Still - beautiful cover though!
― Keith Watson (kmw), Saturday, 23 August 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 August 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 23 August 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 August 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 24 August 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Ian Crause IS Barbara Woodhouse in Ol' Yeller
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 August 2003 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Sunday, 24 August 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 24 August 2003 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)
What really still intrigues/amazes me is that we're almost ten years on from DI Go Pop and the associated records and that while all the equipment that the band so painstakingly used and the potential sounds and approaches they came up with can now be collected and duplicated on a laptop without a worry, I have yet to hear the band that really approaches their style and sound outside of the Avalanches. I think the sense of limitations turning into a forcing of themselves to try something different/more may well mean that DI will end up being unique, but we'll see.
Also, cheers to everyone who has contacted me about the EPs. :-) I am always happy to share and have already burned a slew of copies, and will be responding in e-mail shortly. This is something I just always end up doing on a regular basis because there doesn't seem to be any other resource for them or interest in rereleasing them -- the Aus/NZ crew who I met last year will remember me slinging around copies like there was no tomorrow!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 August 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)
I guess it's nice in one respect - maybe someone will yet do this - the Lord knows music could do with an injection of excitement at the moment.
Ned - I will force feed myself "DI go pop" all week. I had it on this morning and started to like the last couple of tracks.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 24 August 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 August 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)
Every time I listen to the extended instrumental beginning I am convinced I am hearing the most beautiful music in the world. And that just makes what Crause is singing all the more amazing.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 August 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― chomicat, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― doug watson (solid air), Sunday, 16 November 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 November 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 November 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
1. where did i go wrong (mix 1)2. drowned out3. untitled4. keep it together5. swing6. where did i go wrong (mix 2)
they do sound like outtakes, i.e. perhaps not entirely finished, and the sound quality isn't great. sadly i don't have enough web space to host the 6 songs, but i can upload 2 at the time.
i hope this works (limited bandwidth) -
http://homepage.mac.com/san_micho/Drowned_Out.mp3http://homepage.mac.com/san_micho/Where_Did_I_Go_Wrong.mp3
(many thanks to rf, who i hope won't mind i post these.)
― chomisan, Sunday, 16 November 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― thom west (thom w), Sunday, 16 November 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)
It's possible to get all of their stuff off Soulseek, and I recommend the early 'In Debt' era stuff as well, though it's no indication of the amazing stuff that was to come. I would buy all their stuff if I could ever find it.
stuff is the word of the day.
― Sasha (sgh), Monday, 17 November 2003 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)
I am evil, EVIL! ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― doug watson (solid air), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)
The Five EPs:
1. Summer's Last Sound2. Love Stepping Out3. From the Devil to the Deep Blue Sea4. A Rock to Cling To5. The Last Dance6. DI Go Pop7. The Long Dance8. Scattered Showers9. Second Language10. The Atheist's Burden11. At the End of the Line12. A Little Something13. It's a Kid's World14. A Night on the Tiles15. Lost in Fog
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― idiozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh, Cozen, and if you've got a spare copy of that laying around, ya know, we can probably arrange something...
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)
I cannot understand why this band hasn't been canonized. Is it just a case of wrong place/wrong time? Are people really that cloth-eared? Their records gush genius, almost flauntingly.
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Well also keep in mind they were barely PUBLICIZED. The only reason I heard about them at all was strictly the UK press, specifically Melody Maker thanks to Simon Price, Simon Reynolds and David Stubbs (and Neil Kulkarni now that I think about it -- gave "Second Language" single of the week). In Debt fell out of print in the UK after Che collapsed and only half emerged in the States on the Coctails' label of all things, DI Go Pop did get a near simultaneous release sorta on Bar-None in 1994 here and that's how I ended up interviewing Crause (and WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I FIND THE TAPE DAMMIT but that's another story), but that was about it, they never toured and didn't make much of a splash. You really had to know who they were by digging, and they just missed out of a potential net buzz by a few years when the technology to share music got suitably entrenched.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Are you SURE that's not the wrong way around?
― Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― oliver craner, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)
Vinita at Rocket Girl told me she was able to secure the rights to the Che stuff, including "Summer's Last Sound/Love Stepping Out," but that Rough Trade still has all the rights to the other EPs. Hrm.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)
interesting, because i like them both the best out of all his stuff. but then it is pretty much as indiepop as you're going to get.
― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)
It is glorious. :-)
can anyone do a CD80 list?
Er um uh. That would require me looking up exact times and I'm lazy right now. But let's assume this:
EmigreWaking UpFallen Down the WireSummer's Last SoundLove Stepping OutFrom the Devil to the Deep Blue Sea (or whichever one on that single is the one starting with that sudden abrupt beginning)The Last DanceDI Go PopIn Sharky WaterNew Clothes for the New WorldStarbound: All Burnt Out and Nowhere to GoEven the Sea Sides Against UsSecond LanguageAt the End of the LineIt's a Kid's WorldLost in Fog
...for now.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh right, forgot to respond to this. Yes, drop me a line.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)
1. From The Devil To The Deep Blue Sea2. The Last Dance3. D.I. Go Pop4. Love Stepping Out5. It’s A Kid’s World6. The Atheist’s Burden7. At The End Of The Line8. Summer’s Last Sound9. A Little Something10. Lost In Fog11. A Night On The Tiles12. The Long Dance13. A Rock To Cling To14. Second Language15. Scattered Showers
It has a lovely flow to it. Or something. I even made my own cover with a picture I'd taken of some red&blue fireworks. Rar!
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)
When I saw them live just before they split up they were doing a song called "Karate" - I wonder if this ever surfaced under another name? I can't remember anything about it other than it being fantastic - nothing they were playing that night sounded remotely like anything on either DI Go Pop or Technicolor. (It sounded better actually.)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Tom you shouldn't be allowed to say things like that.
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 31 January 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 1 February 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 February 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 1 February 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
I mean, could you send an extra one to cozen that he could pass on, to me, ned?
thanks a lot!!
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 February 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)
and, thanks ned!
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Bill E (bill_e), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 2 February 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)
thanks, cozen.
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― william (william), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Still, they'll be re-released one day won't they? I mean, there is a God isn't there?
― Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)
I think I'll e-mail this Tavis guy and offer myself to him if he re-releases the EPs...
― Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)
I e-mailed a nice man at Rough Trade Records who told me that in fact One Little Indian have the rights to those particular records.
― Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
I have sent them an e-mail. If they still refuse to re-print them, I'm going to start an online petition.
― Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― no opinion, Saturday, 7 February 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)
this arrived in the post today. much difft from technicolor huh?
rjg fix up look sharp.
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Why does everyone dismiss the first album so? Because it wasn't as sophisticated as D.I. Go Pop or the EPs? It still sounds fabulous.
From my one listen through, "D.I. Go Pop" sounds like the best song on the EPs--just unlike anything else I've ever heard. "Waking Up," the only song of theirs I knew, is wonderful, but it wasn't the half of it, really.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)
It's nice that you wrote the AMG reviews on the EPs. Negates the need for me to ask for your opinions on those.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Durutti Column (maybe snatches of that "Return Of..." debut) and the Chameleons are definitely vague comparison points. Also, they're at times like an avant-Go-Betweens, with tracks like "The Atheist's Burden"; its melody and the singer's voice carry that Go-Betweens lilt.There are very pleasing connections for me in the use of sound, with the debut Matt Johnson record, "Burning Blue Soul"; vocals certainly less demonstrative though. "At The End of The Line" I'd suggest was one of those that reminds me at fleeting moments of BBS; a similarly thick, crystalline texture.
Overall, they seem to have a genuinely original sound, and crucially can't be easily pigeonholed. It is a sundazed, avant-pop, I guess... but such a statement doesn't do them justice, esp. considering that within these 5 EPs there is quite a variety of approach.
He he... just listening to "It's A Kid's World", around the 3:30 mark 'til the fade; the Peter Howell Dr Who theme is sampled, is it not? :-) Who would have thought "Lust For Life" could be so productively combined with that...?
― Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)
I seem to remember Andy Kellman first e-mailing me four years back expressing a bit of jealousy that I ended up doing those before he did! He got to do Loop, though, so we're even. ;-) Glad to hear more copies have arrived!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)
I got your I Love the 90s stuff yesterday. Thanks for getting it in.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)
I think it's even more telling thanks to a fantastic comment way upthread by Tim Finney about _DI Go Pop_ (the album):
"D.I. Go Pop" makes much more sense after hearing the EPs. They make the album's rejection of beauty seem more deliberate.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)
And why'd you send In Debt, but not that?
(Just curious because I thought that was supposed to be their definitive work)
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)
"The Long Dance"/"The Last Dance" is def. one of the only pieces of music that brings tears to my eyes every time without fail. "Second Language" is prettier overall but damn if the sudden explosions of guitar colour at the end of the former isn't the most gorgeously bittersweet thing ever.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)
anyways, i usually profess not really to care about lyrics in rock music but damn if mr. crause doesn't spit (uh is that the right verb in this context) some of the most arresting lyrics i've heard in a while. especially on "summer's last sound." great delivery too! he's like a more nonchalant, apocalyptic barney sumner. and the coda to "it's a kid's world" is like one of the most achingly gorgeous minutes or so of music EVER. ian, aside from having a severely underrated band, must be one of the most underrated guitarists as well. i covet his tone
― hjdsl, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
They're out of print at least. How hard they are to find is anyone's guess (the Rough Trade stuff that is -- "Summer's Last Sound"/"Love Stepping Out" went out of print so quickly that I only got my copy [as did Donut Bitch his] thanks to Vinita J. from Che/Rocket Girl as a personal gift).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)
Not to harp on the issue, but this again makes me think of Dome rather than "154." "154" is "154" precisely because the abstract sonic explorations alternate with unbelievably catchy and lushly produced pop. Knowing Wire's studio and songwriting expertise, one can hear Dome as a rejection or perversion of it. I'm interested in "D.I. Go Pop" and very intrigued by the EP's (got them via slsk pretty easily!), but "Go Pop" is hard on the listener in a way 154 only begins to be.
But if you want to elaborate on the comparison I'd be fascinated to read (I did look at the AMG already).
― no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
Weird thing is I don't think it is, but then again I'm not every listener.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)
How then did you understand the "deliberate rejection of beauty" description (I know it wasn't yours, but you seemed to approve)?
― no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)
I think what makes D.I. Go Pop a difficult album is its dourness: the second half of the record isn't really that distinct from their EP work except that it tends to remains pretty understated and greyscale - "Footprints in Snow" being the big exception obviously. Like, it would only take a transcendent guitar solo to turn "New Year" into a big pop number (by the band's standards) but they obstinately refuse to take that path. Only "A Crash At Every Speed" is actually *difficult* I reckon.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh my, that's absolutely perfect! And it explains exactly why I love it so much, as well. Wow.
― Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Can't seem to uncover any further news...
― doug watson (solid air), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― doug watson (solid air), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― juggalo420, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)
thanks again.
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Flatfoot (Skinny), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.diunderground.com/images/diphoto.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Still.....they were better than Disco Inferno.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)
Blind is spelled with a B and an L, not a K.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
I think 'In Debt' and 'Technicolour' are available off amazon.com
― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)
...but only in the chorus a
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Grateful Burms (Barima), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)
Fuck you, Southy. Stop getting to this shit before I do.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 13 June 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Sunday, 13 June 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)
"A Rock To Cling To" is the shorter, guitar laden vocal track."From The Devil..." is the 9 minute samply, glass breaking epic.
...according to the vinyl. (who knows.. maybe the vinyl was mislabelled)
If this question was already answered before, apologies, but this is as close to an official answer as I can get from the evidence right in front of me.
(I always thought it was the other way around, personally.. the CD single doesn't make it too clear)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 14 June 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)
I always imagined it the other way so I am right. Ner.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 June 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)
I am looking to acquire 'real' copies (on CD, but vinyl will do) of those seminal 5 EPs. I already have "It's A Kid's World" and have a copy of "Love Stepping Out" on the way. So if anyone sees any of the other three anywhere, either snap 'em up and I'll pay you back, or else point me in the right direction. Order of priority being
Second LanguageThe Last DanceA Rock To Cling To
kthxbye
xx
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 14 June 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vaughan, Friday, 16 July 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyway -- making more copies of the five EPs, will be sending one to Matt DC here tomorrow. Any other takers? I know you're out there...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:08 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:14 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago)
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), June 14th, 2004."
Ha! I was right!
How more allmusic.com errors do I have to pick out before I win a date with you, Ned?
― Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:41 (twenty years ago)
Ha! Ha!
Anyways, I shall send you my address, Ned. This seems like too great an opportunity to pass up.
― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:55 (twenty years ago)
― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:14 (twenty years ago)
― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:20 (twenty years ago)
You actually have to pay for the cost of the plane ticket.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago)
Oh shit, thank you! D.I. vinyl is criminally hard to find.
― jsk baby (jsk baby), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago)
This threads new mission should be to track down copies of every EP.
― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago)
I am listening to "Second Language" right now and am contenter than content.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― Vaughan, Sunday, 19 September 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago)
-- Bimble (grippledybu...), September 14th, 2004."
Pedantry I know, but it's a compilation of their first single, first album, and an EP (plus 'Broken' which was previously unreleased.
The stuff on 'In Debt' *is* indeed great, but it doesn't have the same groundbreaking sampling and stuff that features in 'D.I. Go Pop'.
― Sasha (sgh), Monday, 20 September 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Monday, 20 September 2004 06:29 (twenty years ago)
I paid £9.
― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago)
Second LanguageThe Last Dance
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)
― KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)
― KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
Well, a huge thank you to Ned and everyone else who evangelizes in the name of Disco Inferno. I was sold after about 20 seconds of "Love Stepping Out", but by the time I got to "Footprints in Snow"... *swoon*. Personally, I think this is a rare case where comparisons to MBV are entirely appropriate. D.I. Go Pop (the album) is especially dense, and can be at once overwhelming/crushing and incredibly delicate-- even if the sound itself isn't all guitar noise, there is a common thread to my ears. The Avalanches connection is a good one too, and to a lesser extent other sampler guys like Manitoba and Amon Tobin. But D.I. is of course quite singular in a lot of ways too. Certainly I've never heard anything for which the term "kaleidoscopic" is more fitting; in fact - probably due to the nature of the samples - it was a very "visual" listen overall, as long as I'm getting into totally subjective non-descriptions. Enough rambling though.
Question: the mp3s I have of the two EPs that come immediately after D.I. Go Pop don't appear to match up to the descriptions on AMG. For example my "Atheist's Burden" is the one with the big fat booming drum loop, and my "Second Language" has the lyric "taught a little song to only sing when things were going horribly wrong" etc. Would someone mind posting the tracklisting of these two EPs, track lengths included? Here's what I have:
Second Language1 Second Language [3:00]2 The Atheist's Burden [4:38]3 At the End of the Line [2:53]4 A Little Something [5:06]
It's a Kid's World1 It's a Kid's World [4:48]2 A Night on the Tiles [3:59]3 Lost in Fog [4:22]
Thanks in advance.
― sleep (sleep), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)
The one with the big drum loop is "It's A Kid's World". The lyric you quoted is from "A Little Something".
"The Athiest's Burden" has a weird gloopy Aphex Twin-like 4/4 beat, woozy guitars and starts with the lyric "I took a hell of a chance and it's paid of handsomely.'
"At The End of the Line" is all shimmering guitars and strong, melancholy bass, a bit like Bark Psychosis meets late-era The Church. Probably the most out-and-out beautiful thing DI did.
"A Night On The Tiles" is the weird sample-based one with Edith Piaf and glasses breaking.
"Lost In Fog" is the dark ambient one with lyrics about how "we all live underground".
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)
I'd say the semi-secret ingredient in the 'beautiful' DI songs like "At the End of the Line" is the Durutti Column, but that would be only part of it. I think somewhere in that where-the-HELL-is-it interview I did with Crause he copped to being a massive fan.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)
Ahh, still a bit starry eyed :) Oh transience, you haven't got me yet.
― sleep (sleep), Saturday, 8 January 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0001XAQ32.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
tattooed on my stomach.
before i do this, does anybody know if that is the symbal for anything?
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
my first tattoo, btw.
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)
Help me Obi Wan Kenobe, you're my only hope.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 October 2005 07:56 (nineteen years ago)
but i do have that one on 12" and cd.
― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Monday, 10 October 2005 08:49 (nineteen years ago)
― jake b. (cerybut), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 December 2005 06:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 December 2005 09:00 (nineteen years ago)
― pattyckaes256@aol.com, Thursday, 1 December 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr.C, Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago)
― van igloo (van smack), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:03 (nineteen years ago)
I listened to it on my commute to LA. Awesome stuff
― van igloo (van smack), Friday, 9 December 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago)
― skoolbus39 (skoolbus39), Saturday, 10 December 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 07:21 (nineteen years ago)
― skoolbus39 (skoolbus39), Saturday, 10 December 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)
― js (honestengine), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr.C, Monday, 12 December 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr.C, Monday, 12 December 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago)
IM sometimes i like DI GO POP better than the EPs; its more confrontational on the one hand but is also a nicely sequenced, compact album, which when im in the right mood is another advantage.
― js66676, Monday, 12 December 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 December 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)
Oh poor Second Language EP... that is probably my favorite thing they did!
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 12 December 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago)
You're fired. Er, wait. ;-)
It's odd about In Debt for me -- I played it to DEATH on original release (I was lucky enough to be in the UK shortly after it came out and though I'd not heard anything by them I had heard enough about them -- credit to Simon Price and David Stubbs in particular -- to know I would love it), but I haven't pulled it out for listening in years, despite my very high regard for many of those early songs. "Fallen Down the Wire" is in retrospect astonishingly underrated.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 December 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago)
― van igloo (van smack), Saturday, 17 December 2005 04:07 (nineteen years ago)
I can boast posession of a handwritten letter from many years ago from Ian Crause but never mind. Please give me the candy.
― Halloween Spooky Party Hints! (Bimble...), Saturday, 17 December 2005 05:14 (nineteen years ago)
― fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Saturday, 17 December 2005 09:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 17 December 2005 11:22 (nineteen years ago)
― njksd, Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)
I've been listening to DI Go Pop on and off for a year and it is clearly great and wanted to get hold of more stuff.
Technicolour having been re-released is probably get-able, whereas the EPS seem impossible to get from what I read here, what about the first album/In Debt?
― Rob Cameron, Sunday, 18 December 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago)
― jk85558, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago)
Only just noticed this -- the answer is 'not a problem.'
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 December 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)
e-mail me :)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Harpal (harpal), Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Thursday, 2 February 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)
― etc, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)
did all this stuff come out on re-issue? if not how come?
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)
Speaking of which, I know a certain grimly fiendish has received a little something in the mail. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)
to tell the truth, what can i say? it was reading about DI here that made me tap up alext for a copy of "... go pop", which i remember him raving about when we were at university but i never really "got" ...
... but best part of a decade on, it all suddenly made a frightening amount of sense.
and then the EPs; where do i start? it's not the kind of music i can write about, to tell the truth. i can't get a handle on it yet. there's so much going on; so much sound; so many ideas; so much beauty; so much anger; just ... so MUCH. fucking incredible, basically. the kind of music i will never tire of listening to.
maybe eventually i'll get my head round disco inferno. but i kinda hope not. i like what they do to me.
i'm just annoyed it's taken me this long to appreciate it.
anyway: ned, thank you very much indeed. and i hope you've enjoyed what i sent you in return.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 2 March 2006 08:06 (nineteen years ago)
― dEvO69, Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)
― dEvO69, Monday, 20 March 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 20 March 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)
― dEvO69, Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)
― dEvO69, Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)
― dEvO69, Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Cesc, Friday, 26 May 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)
Nick, have you found the fifth original CD single yet?
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)
Drop me an e-mail.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
Timely revival, in a way, as I'm working on something of potential interest. Won't surface for a little while yet, though.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)
― van smack, Saturday, 14 April 2007 03:18 (eighteen years ago)
― Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 14 April 2007 08:11 (eighteen years ago)
― f. hazel, Saturday, 14 April 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)
I've been *cough*downloading*cough some D.I. and quite liking it, but I'm confused about the track(s?) "A Rock To Cling To." Two entirely different songs with that title seem to exist, one a 9:41 instrumental and the other a 3:53 song with vocals. The latter starts abruptly, such that it almost sounds like an edit from a longer version, but the two tracks are not similar. I can't find a citation online for this latter track. Anyone? Anyone?
― ctrl-s, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, this was talked about earlier in the thread (thus it behooves you to read it all ;-) ) -- for the longest time I thought "A Rock to Cling To" was the longer track, but after friend donut found the original vinyl, it turned out that was the shorter song. The abrupt start is intentional.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)
Ah, thanks!
"it behooves you to read it all"
Duly noted.
― ctrl-s, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:05 (eighteen years ago)
p.s. Maybe update the AMG page accordingly? :)
― ctrl-s, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:18 (eighteen years ago)
Stranger has occurred.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)
So what is the longer song called? "It Behooves You to Read it All"??
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)
Nevermind!
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)
Hooray!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)
Crause actually sings the phrase "I just need a rock to cling to" at some point in the shorter of the two. The CD single packaging makes the titles difficult to judge, though. I think I need to retag in iTunes. BECAUSE I TRUSTED NED AND HE LIED TO ME.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 31 May 2007 08:22 (eighteen years ago)
Poor soul.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)
Hm.
RickyT sent me "the 5 eps" some time ago (or posted it online or something) and I gave it one listen, went "ooh, curious" and didnt pursue.
Now I am giving it another listen and I am extremely intrigued. I cannot find a point of reference for these guys at all. Maybe a tad AR Kane, maybe a tad GYBE, maybe a little Tear Garden... argh! It is getting into my head!
― Trayce, Monday, 23 July 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)
Ooh "The Last Dance" is lovely. Its like Durutti Column. I *like* this.
― Trayce, Monday, 23 July 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)
As grimly said upthread I hope I never really get my head around this stuff, this is awesomely complex and strange, wow.
― Trayce, Monday, 23 July 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)
nothing like it before or since
― uptown churl, Monday, 23 July 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)
Yes to all that (but I would say that). Though this reminds me I need to check out the Studio, which good Mr. Finney proclaims has a D.I. feel to it (and that's all the justification I need to investigate further!).
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)
Who / what is / are The Studio?
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 23 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)
Behold:
The Studio - West Coast
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)
I must say this has also gotten me to check out Bark Psychosis who Ive been meaning to for YEARS (literally), having heard all the ARKane/Papa Sprain comparisons.
Also VERY AWESOME. I am insane for not having checked either of these bands out sooner, my god. They are brilliant.
― Trayce, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)
I've heard a couple of tracks off the Studio album. It's good, but I don't really hear the Disco Inferno connection unfortunately. I guess I'm just starting to accept the fact that there isn't much out there that approaches the sound of DI.
― Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)
I don't hear DI in the Studio sound either...
― henry s, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)
Ya got me but there Tim's comments are and all.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)
I found (and bought) "Technicolour" in an Oxford Street HMV the other day! :p
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)
hey, i found and bought "technicolour" last week!
i'm sure i'm not adding much to the discussion by just saying it's good and i like how they kind of got poppier than "go pop" while still being in the same vein. i still prefer "go pop" though.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 9 August 2007 02:15 (eighteen years ago)
I'm more in love with this band by the day.
― Trayce, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:52 (eighteen years ago)
Although there's still a couple songs I find a bit over-cutsey and difficult, that said, like "A Night on the Tiles".
― Trayce, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:53 (eighteen years ago)
Ha well it is a b-side.
― Tim F, Thursday, 9 August 2007 04:05 (eighteen years ago)
what say we all chip in and get that Floorshow LP released?
― henry s, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)
Floorshow?
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)
the post-DI Ian Crause band, who apparently recorded an LP only to have it nixed by the record company...Robin Guthrie then remixed it, and it still got rejected...folks, it's out there, ready to go...and you know you want it!
― henry s, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)
I'd just like Rough Trade to gather all the five EPs and stick 'em on one CD. I'd wanna hear Floorshow too, maybe, but I wasn't struck by his solo work.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)
I'd just like Rough Trade to gather all the five EPs and stick 'em on one CD.
And I'd love to write the liner notes!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 August 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)
Hey Mr. Ned: Is that offer to burn the 5 ep's still open? I'd love them.
― kwhitehead, Thursday, 9 August 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)
Yup, drop an e-mail with your address.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 August 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)
Thanks. I just did it.
― kwhitehead, Thursday, 9 August 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)
didn't they do this in 1999?
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 10 August 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)
Nope.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 August 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)
i've heard that album isn't very good, from someone who heard it
― akm, Friday, 10 August 2007 04:42 (eighteen years ago)
is this a bootleg, then?
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/disco_inferno/the_5_e_p_s/
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 10 August 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah whats "the 5 eps" that I have then?
― Trayce, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:05 (eighteen years ago)
the album I was talking about is the floorshow album
― akm, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:14 (eighteen years ago)
btw
and the 5 e.p.s comp referenced there is, yes, the same comp everyone with the e.ps winds up making (or copies of ones that people got off ned, bootlegger extraordinaire)
― akm, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:15 (eighteen years ago)
I was gonna say!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 August 2007 05:26 (eighteen years ago)
"Technicolour" going for £1.31 on amazon.co.uk new.
― acrobat, Monday, 13 August 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)
remind me never to go to hmv ever again
― Just got offed, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)
Anyway, I gather some more folks have the EPs now...the offer, as ever, remains standing.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago)
Can anyone help me find decent-sized images of the EP covers online? Ideally 250x250pixels plus in size? Big kisses to anyone who can help!
― Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:38 (seventeen years ago)
Also, wtf, this page - http://www.last.fm/event/529497 - reckons they played a gig in April???!!!
― Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:41 (seventeen years ago)
Found 'em!
http://lamaraba.blogspot.com/2008/05/some-disco-inferno-epssingles.html Got Love Stepping Out off emusic.
― Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:50 (seventeen years ago)
They still haven't released an EP comp? Such a shame... they are probably the worst band to google behind Can and Television. I'd ask Ned, but not sure how he stands on shipping to Sweden. If anyone could mail them or link or whatever, it would be much appreciated!
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 August 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)
I'd be happy to send a copy! In fact I have two requests hanging fire I need to fulfill anyway.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 August 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)
Is one of them mine?
― S-, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)
Ned, in that case you may check your mails!
― sonderangerbot, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
I think it's wonderful that Ned still makes this available for folks! I don't have one, myself, though. I think I asked for one once but it wasn't convenient at the time.
― Bimble, Sunday, 31 August 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)
Yup!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 August 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)
A little something:
http://crumbsinthebutter.art.officelive.com/DISCO_INFERNO.aspx
(Plz to note this includes a first person essay by Mr. Crause himself -- as well as a brief bit from yours truly.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 December 2008 13:35 (sixteen years ago)
Nice, thanks!
― ilxor, Monday, 8 December 2008 13:57 (sixteen years ago)
Great to read the recollections of Ian Crause. Fell in love with this band just this year and have been curious about their backstory so thanks a lot for the little something.
― willem, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago)
You're most welcome!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago)
"far defter" though?
― akm, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago)
It's an excerpt from a longer, unpublished piece, so I think context might explain the ending (I'd have to go back and check). Still, there's the idea that they found what one of their sources of inspiration could not, that they made it actually work.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 December 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago)
That was a cool article. I'm delighted when anyone appreciates Sparkle In The Rain as well.
― I SYMPATHIZE HAMSTER (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 8 December 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago)
Does anyone have any idea how I might get in touch with Ian Crause? I can't find an offical myspace page. Does one exist? There's something I need to tell him. Please.
― gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 11 January 2009 19:29 (sixteen years ago)
At LONG last I have finally found the interview I did with Ian Crause back in 1994. Seriously, this tape had been eluding me forever. I'll be digitizing it and figuring out how best to share in as part of a larger project; more details soon.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2009 05:36 (fifteen years ago)
he said 4 months ago...
― zingzing, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)
He said indeed. The larger project is forthcoming.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
Does anyone know where I could get the five e.p.s in v0? Been looking for years..
― mikethegrouch, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
what is v0? i can send you flacs or something if you want.
― akm, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)
what is v0?
― Olivier Messiaen Control (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)
I'm desperately after the 'Last Dance' and 'Second Language' EP's in lossless if anyone can help. I have 'Second Language' on vinyl and I gave up the hope of ever finding an original copy of the 'Last Dance' EP a while back. Any help would be eternally appreciated.
― AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:10 (fifteen years ago)
did the person who was getting their logo tattood on themselves ever show any pictorial eveidence?
― piscesx, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
i vaguely remember seeing a pic?
― deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago)
Now I have the compilation I am selling my original CDs of the five EPs. If you're interested they're here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/njsouthall/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)
Bump. A couple of people are watching these; I've just dropped the Buy It Now prices.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 3 October 2011 07:17 (thirteen years ago)
A gentle bump.
Zero bids still!
― djh, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago)
Couple of watchers though. I will post to the US for an ILXor, btw.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago)
alright.. which ilxor outbidded me?
^_____^
― difficult to adjust to ilxor being a low frequency poster (ilxor), Saturday, 8 October 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago)
Holy crap those EPs have plummeted in value. I remember Last Dance would set you back like 80 bucks.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 8 October 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry ilxor. I'm the guilty party. Don't hold it against me.
I heard DI for the first time about 4 or 5 years ago. In my search for the EP's I was initially lucky in finding the 'Second Language' new on vinyl from a Amazon marketplace seller for about £8 new. Not long after that I was fortunate enough to stumble upon what must have been warehouse finds of 'Summers Last Sound' and 'In Debt' for dirt cheap on CD via eBay. I then found a copy of 'A Rock to Cling To' pretty cheap on Amazon second hand. After that I managed to get a copy of 'It's a Kids World' on wax for about £10. 'The Last Dance' was by far the most difficult to track down. I searched high and low for years to no avail. If it wasn't for the formal release of the 5 Eps compilation and Sick Mouthy's decision to sell his EP's I doubt I'd ever have found it. Does any one have any idea of what kind of quantity was pressed of the EP's in the first place? It really can't have been much.
I did manage to score myself a copies of 'Open Doors, Closed Windows', the 'Science' EP and 'D.I go Pop' on vinyl on the way along. The latter in particular seems to be neigh on impossible to find.
I then bought a copy of the '5 EP's' on release date and felt a bit silly for all my desperate efforts. Still, part of me felt committed to the cause.
― AnotherDeadHero, Sunday, 9 October 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago)
^^ sounds like you're far more committed to the cause than i am. props for beating me by $1 or so per disc! ..... i too stumbled across summer's last sound and a rock to cling to CDs for something ridiculous, like $3 apiece some cheap local undervalued pricing... snapped those up quick. i'll get the rest someday. cheers!
― difficult to adjust to ilxor being a low frequency poster (ilxor), Sunday, 9 October 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago)
I just love that they're all back now in some form. Out of my hands completely, at last.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 October 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago)
maybe i should eBay my Ned Raggett-penned CDr copy..... what's it worth, i wonder? ;D
― difficult to adjust to ilxor being a low frequency poster (ilxor), Sunday, 9 October 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago)
Great recent interview and feature on The Quietus: http://thequietus.com/articles/07144-disco-inferno-interview
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/29/fact-mix-354-disco-inferno/
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago)
Feeling chuffed and perhaps a little smug to have picked up 12"s in good condition of A Rock To Cling To, The Last Dance and It's A Kid's World for £2.50 each from the usually very sharp local second hand dealer.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:07 (eleven years ago)
Fantastic score! If he's usually very sharp there's no need to feel smug imo. No one's perfect.
― Tim Heckler (willem), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:12 (eleven years ago)
Indeed. Meantime, check another thread revival shortly...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:16 (eleven years ago)
wow, I've never even seen these on vinyl.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:37 (eleven years ago)
D.I. Go Pop on vinyl. Please. Please. Please.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 13 February 2014 17:50 (eleven years ago)
Yeah I was just going to post that. Would love to own D.I. Go Pop and Technicolour on vinyl.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 13 February 2014 17:57 (eleven years ago)
A quick note that Rocket Girl are rereleasing In Debt, with a formerly unreleased cut:
https://rocketgirl.co.uk/label/release/rgirl114
https://rocketgirl.co.uk/label/release/rgirl114LP
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)
I like the new cover art!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:51 (eight years ago)
Yeah that's a neat way to acknowledge the past while doing something different. Same sleeve designer as well.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)
more of a collector's item
tho emigre is in my top 10 disco songs
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:33 (eight years ago)
yeah looking forward to this even though I have it on cd and everything else.
― akm, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:10 (eight years ago)
yes but you don't have "in the cold" because it's an unreleased track! unless it's on youtube or something. I haven't checked.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:36 (eight years ago)
In Debt is their best album.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 4 March 2017 16:45 (eight years ago)
https://www.mixcloud.com/neilkulkarni5/a-new-nineties-1994-uk-edition-volume-1/
― djh, Saturday, 4 March 2017 18:08 (eight years ago)
^ A nice mix. Slight shame all the jungle tracks are from the same compilation I believe, rather than a bit more varied. https://www.discogs.com/Various-Drum-Bass-Selection-2/release/97952
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 9 March 2017 09:54 (eight years ago)
I'll stop my DJ snarking now ;)
I did enjoy that mix ... I have to confess it inspired me to make my own compilation from the same era (Insides, Disco Inferno, Spoonfed Hybrid, Acacia etc).
Snarking is okay.
― djh, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:16 (eight years ago)
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere else already. I just came across pre-orders on Amazon for vinyl reissues of DI Goes Pop (out on Jan 26) and Technicolor (out on Feb 23). Looking on the One Little Indian, they seem to have slightly different release dates but they are confirmed as coming soon. Amazing news!
― kitchen person, Monday, 15 January 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)
dope
― kolakube (Ross), Monday, 15 January 2018 04:29 (seven years ago)
Excellent news!
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 15 January 2018 10:00 (seven years ago)
Ordered DI Goes Pop it from One Little Indian as soon as I saw the post, and it has just arrived.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 12:15 (seven years ago)
Wow! It still says the vinyl will be dispatched in February on the site. I wish I could get a copy here in America that quickly.
Have you played it yet? Interested to know how it sounds. Hope they've done a good job with these.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
I saw this post Ned shared on FB about OLI fucking over A.R. Kane, and that the vinyl re-issue of '69' is ripped from a CD. Does anyone know about D.I's relationship with OLI, or the provenance of the vinyl re-ish?
https://www.facebook.com/arkaneuk/posts/1575310215879208
@olirecords claim to have purchased our entire catalog from @RoughTradeRecs for a few pennies, in perpetuity, w'out our consent knowledge - they refuse to let the rights revert to the band - not so much #MeToo more #MyArtToo #ArtisticSlavery U ever had a powerful label rip u off?— A.R.Kane (@InfoKane) January 2, 2018
― mor frog bs (S-), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)
Ugh about A.R.Kane and OLI.
I've not had the time to listen to the LP yet, on the weekend perhaps.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:51 (seven years ago)
OLI seemingly bought up the rights to a job lot of rough trade stuff some years back
― faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:00 (seven years ago)