Raveonettes - classic or CLASSIC?

Sharin Foo is amazing. The first time I saw them, this friend (girl) I was with was like "oh my god, I think I'm gay" when she saw her, and at the same time I'd gone "oh my god, I think I'm straight".

Or maybe I won't, I mean, I loved the JAMC's one trick for over a decade.

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They were great on Conan, by the by.

Seeing 'em again tonight (first time through was opening for Depeche at Staples Center, tonight is the Detroit Bar -- a rather smaller affair).

...and that was a pretty good set, a bit static but the highs were highs. Also, nice job covering both Sonic Youth's "100%" and the Gun Club's "Sex Beat," I'd say!

I loved Whip It On, but I never exactly fell in love with the second one. I really should check out the third one after reading this thread. Is there a new one on the way or something?

a new album is TBA for this year, according to some upcoming releases lists.

There's some new songs on their MySpace page. Going to see them tonight at the Echo.

Opening act Midnight Movies is pretty good too -- their set started as basic Velvet/Can worship (no complaints, but that's all it was) but as things went on they kept bringing all sorts of other stuff to bear, and ended on a fine high note.

Opening act Midnight Movies is pretty good too

Agreed. I've seen them a couple times before (including the Stereolab show you were at). New album is worthy

including the Stereolab show you were at

THAT'S how I know them. It was really bugging me last night!

toss

New album is out this month! This Dead Sound song is good.

In other words, why was I not informed?

because they've got an indie budget now

They've been steadily posting about it on their MySpace page + playing some of the new songs at their shows this year.

Gut reaction: it's not hitting me as immediate as Pretty In Black did, but I'm liking it a lot.

Really, I completely missed out on Pretty In Black after I was told it pretty much sucks ass. But I only ever loved Whip It On. Lust is filthy.

The opening track on this is pretty amazing.

This is really really good. First indie album I've heard in a long time that I've liked.

They remind me a bit of Black Tambourine.

this is somewhat of an appealing thing to me

did calum start this thread?

The new disc -- Lust Lust Lust -- appeared on eMusic today. I'm very curious based on the review, which says it's better than 'Psychocandy'.

^^ rong obv

Probably so, but the favorable comparison still speaks well of the disc. Others upthread seem to like it, too. Is it just a JAMC knockoff?

goddamn, two days after i buy a copy and FP finally fucking get off their ass to put it on emusic. typical. anyway it's a very fun record, if not up to the standards of the last two

evidently i can't access it on emusic so no harm done

I am happy with the recent JAMC-type indie releases - Raveonettes, A Place To Bury Strangers, Magnetic Fields, etc. It's a very welcome return of sonic depth to iPod-quality indiepop.

Man that APTBS disc is good. The way a record oughta be.

I'll probably be crucified for saying it, but Lust Lust Lust is exactly what I was hoping to get from the disappointing Magnetic Fields album.

i haven't heard distortion but i'm sure that's entirely fair

The Black Tamborine comment is very astute ... it has a strong Aislers Set feel to it. It sounds like it belongs on Slumberland, not Vice. Extremely strong album, but will it be remembered at the end of the year?

It's getting only fair reviews (72 METASCORE on about 17 reviews), so chances are it won't be remembered in many Year-End Polls.

i'm digging lust lust lust. plenty of fuzz on the guitars, but very pretty soundscapes nonetheless. nice, dreamy songs

Lust Lust Lust is great, I like it better than the previous records (which were good, but kinda samey very quickly).

Seems like there's more of a groove to the songs this time around.

i'll have to check this out

My favorite rock disc of the year, so far.

Great!

Two follow-ups. First, the disc really does have a sonic imprint similar to Psychocandy, tho I'm by no means saying it's as good (some have, however, e.g., the eMusic review). I mention it because L3 is one of the more strongly nostalgic discs I've heard since the 80s revival began this decade, and so it touches certain nerves with me. Second, L3 is, to me, a nice companion piece to the growing indie noise rock sound I've been enjoying more and more over the past few years. I think of it and two other discs as three sides of the nu-Indie Noise Rock: L3 representing darkly romantic noise rock; A Place To Bury Strangers' self-titled debut last year representing angry, industrial-type noise rock; and TNV's new disc representing light-hearted, raucous noise rock. I'm sure I've missed a lot of other equally worthy noise rock discs, but there it is. Anyway, L3 is a very, very good disc.

see also: asobi seksu

Brilliant show tonight. Loved their cover of Stereolab's "French Disko" too.

I kinda regret being so drunk when I saw them, I can't remember much about the gig, and lots of people are saying they were great live!

Eh, this is okay. The way they use vocals to balance the mood/sound out strikes me as an improvement on JAMC, but some of these songs (and it's a relatively short album) aren't holding my attention.

Best album of the year, so far.

^^^ Agreed.

it's a relatively short album . . . (but some of the songs) aren't holding my attention.

I'd say it's economical and compact. And the high points -- e.g., Aly Walk With Me, Dead Sound, You Want The Candy, Sad Transmission -- are very, very high.

wow, i didn't realise they were my favourites until you just said it. well done.

^^that reads as sarcasm but it isn't I swear

'you want the candy' is taking the whole j and m chain thing a little too far, for mine.

best of the year would be a big call. i'll settle on a pleasing set of songs for now

i like how every interview with them I've read has included a list of their very obvious influences VU ronnettes buddy holly mbv jamc shangrilas etc

haha totally. if ever a band's influences are gonna speak for themselves it's these guys

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'you want the candy' is taking the whole j and m chain thing a little too far, for mine.

Talk about telegraphing an already obvious influence. However, in all honesty I do like that song. I would also add "Hallucinations" to Daniel's list of the best songs on the album (with which I otherwise agree), even though I don't like any of it as much as he does.

its actually the beauty of them. Simulacrum I think; I might not have really understood that Baudrillard book.

i think this albums cover art has been overlooked, as a band who have always had really bad design this is a great cover and probably one of the best there will be this year.

while i like this album i do think it's their weakest since the debut

yep rockist, i acknowledge it as an already obvious, given influence. just that that particular song annoys me a tad with its even-more-overt-than-usual nod to the jamc oeuvre :)

agreed on cover art

you mean you think whip it on is weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

what about bowels of the beast or cops on our tail or attack of the ghost riders or beat city. They are fucking brilliant. Minor works for minor works.

it's all relative 8)

relavitism is the enemy of human rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is a question of ethics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes i suppose its only an opinion.

"aly walk with me" = sexy fuzzy jam of the year.

that song's a goodo

Opener ‘Aly Walk With Me’ merges hip-hop beats and Velvet Underground guitars

nme have never eard ip hop

raveonettes = noise rockers?

nme have never heard noise music

Q. nme writers = my little sister?

My little sister has heard public enemy and Free Kitten

A. No

Raveonettes basically denied belonging to any particular music scene when I talked to them at SXSW, which I thought was kinda weird/stupid.

hahah!

i saw them twice at sxsw, both times great but one was just exceptionally well done, way awesome show.

one of my fav songs = "My Heartbeat's Dying", the first bonus track on the US version. so so so good.

Video for 'You Want The Candy'. Really good (quick, jagged cuts; scuzzy; exciting). One of my favorite songs of the year, no matter how obviously derivative it is.

he shouldn't do that thing with his hair

I like about half the songs on this album but "You Want the Candy" is boring shit

Candy is one of my favorites, but I love a lot of stuff on this disc.

they don't strike me as an indie-burlesque-friendly sound

lust lust lust is pretty great. obv. the JAMC references are huge on the record, but it works cuz the songs are good....also i was suprised by a few moments (like aly walk w.me) that go into actual hellish noise not just "indie noisy-ish guitars".....

in a way they are sort of doing the same thing times new viking is doing for a different set of historical references (JAMC/Kitchens of Distinction vs. GBV/Stiltbreeze shit)

It's all about "Blitzed" these days

Why did I ignore this band for so long?

this new album = still excellent, top 5 of 2008 so far

anyone heard sune rose wagner's solo elpee?

how's the new album? how are they live?

New album is fantastic, lots of variety for a Raveonettes album, the mood is lighter and more fun, the feedback from Lust is scaled back in favor of bigger harmonies and hooks. And they're great live, too!

The new album has been getting mediocre reviews overall (the last one did too).

I'm always surprised by critical reaction to this band. They sound like their influences (but update that sound, and they don't become pastiche). And they suffer critically for it, unlike a lot of other acts that do the same, e.g., Interpol; Vivian Girls; Crystal Stilts; A Place To Bury Strangers; The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart (I like-to-love all these bands, BTW).

Anyway, classic.

The Raveonettes are better and more consistent than any of the acts Daniel just listed. Anyone digging that cloying Pains album would do themselves a big favor to check out this new Raveonettes one. It's in the same vein (generally) but a much better listen.

Good but weird Raveonettes show last night in Austin. Three songs in, "It's too hot to play drums in Texas!" Next 5-6 songs were all drumless, giving them a more freeform, bubblegum-psych vibe. Each of them did a song mid-set completely solo, while the other just stood there. Three guys from the Black Angels joined them for the last two songs -- "Lust" and "Aly" -- which with two guitars, two drum sets and a fuzzed-out bass sounded thick and powerful. Encore break... then they covered "100%" (Sonic Youth) and called it a night.

Anyway... they headlined the first night of Austin Psych Fest, so pretty sure the focus on noise/freeform structure was intentional. They didn't play anything too "poppy," e.g., no "Last Dance," "Dead Sound," "Candy" or any of their other super-upbeat tunes.

Some of the songs worked really well without drums, by the way. Others fell flat -- "Break Up Girls" for example, which lost all of its momentum when slowed in pace and played with just guitar and bass.

"Love in a Trashcan" was great.

"Ghost Riders" was great.

"Heart of Stone" (this one was done with drums, early in the set) was fantastic.

Raveonettes cover I Wanna Be Adored. It's for some sort of silly Doc Martens anniversary comp, but the cover is great and worth the hassle to download.

Thanks for the tip. That's good!

raveonettes are a sorely underappreciated band.

One of those 'where did the time go' PR mailouts:

THE RAVEONETTES CELEBRATE 10TH ANNIVERSARY

New album, Observator, out in the fall.

neat. their last album is probably my favourite since their proper debut

i think Observator is a bit thin on proper songs, not to mention i like 'em better in full-on shoegaze mode, or full-on pop mode, than this moody, in-between land of minor key songs with fewer hooks and less guitar noise... opening track is a dagger, tho.

man i'm p in love with the new one!

opening track is one of their all time songs for sure

i don't think it's quite as good as raven, which was one of their best, but no disappointment certainly

the lush-u-like guitars in sinking with the sun are glorious

never heard these guys until observator. I can imagine younger me getting properly obsessed with this record if it were, like, 1986. As it stands it's fantastic alone-in-the-house stuff

insanely beautiful song from the newest album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa7JfWsMxgs

i like this album but it's the first one of theirs to disappoint me since lust lust lust. the previous 3 are immense records

allow me to repeat myself once more

observator is amazing, it's true.... but so is lust lust lust. and so is pe-ahi. i feel like this band is underrated. burying lush melodies under mountains of fuzz and laying ehtereal, sometimes cryptic vocals on top of it all is seen as an easy, tried and true formula. i'm not sure it is though. the raveonettes aren't my bloody valentine, but still there aren't many other bands who do what they do as well.

Yeah, they're MBV + JAMC.

i have never heard mbv in them at all

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I was lukewarm on Observator, but their set at Austin Psych Fest last year was a big highlight and last night's show upped even that. I hadn't really given Pe-ahi a chance yet - but the new songs sound great live. I'll just go ahead and say it - they aren't MBV, but Curve 1993. Their sound is just that unstoppable. Do not miss.

raveonettes are a sorely underappreciated band.

so true

surprised there's never been a "best of"/introduction sort of comp but it would probably be a licensing nightmare