Julee Cruise: Classic or Dud

The 2nd LP is pretty good too, but the schtick seemed more familiar by then.

What's this about a new record?

Gygax otm, btw.

I don't think it was a conscious attempt, but the first Goldfrapp LP sounds similar tho Floating..

No, really it does.

It came out in 1989, but the sentiment is understood. I liked the second album a lot, too. Didn't care much for her work with Can Oral, though.

Did anyone ever see her with the B-52s?

I saw her perform with them on Leno. That was more disturbing than anything Lynch had ever done, watching her shimmy and all smiles.

not too keen on the second album, and i haven't heard the third one enough to comment.

man Twin Peaks is the greatest.

She did SNL as a last minute substitute on the Andrew Dice Clay episode after Sinead O'Connor backed out. 14 yr old me was like "OMFG!!!!1 The Twin Peaks song with lyrics?!"

i refuse to believe that the pluramon record is decent simply because they gave the worst live performance i have ever seen in my life.

you're all wrong, though: best thing on the album by far is "mysteries of love", which just slays me every time. and (ObGrimlyWeddoesReference) props to gedge and co for their cover of "falling", which is immense post-metal growling and even better than the original.

they did this for about five minutes before the train wreck MBV-style ballads commenced.

i have to admit i don't think of julee cruise as the most significant artistic personality behind her two good records (well 1 1/2 good records?). she does what she does well, but i have to imagine that a lot of people could do as well with all those filters and reverb etc. the musical settings are really key, and those can be credited to badalamenti and lynch.

i actually like the WP cover of "falling"! but i'm much more attached to the JC version.

OMG another JC!!!!!

though it probably helps if you thought Fire Walk With Me was incredible, as it's got the songs from that film (as well as several other contemporary Lynch projects)

Is that the "Tibetan Mix"?

If so, drop me and line and...

What's the urgency? You trying to find out if it was released legitimately?

Digging in Google reveals it as having been released in 2002 on the Hed Kandi: Winter Chill 06.02 comp.

I'd like to hear it, but I'm not paying $30 just for one song.

i'm pretty sure i have that hed kandi comp, so i'll take a look back and see what i can find

http://www.biftek.com/releases/detail.php?id=2

Revisiting "Floating into the Night" after a few years. Still has a vibe unlike any other album I've heard-- quiet, eerie, melancholy, contemplative... it feels so lonely and atmospheric.

beautiful...so amazing...

"why don't you come over to my house... please?"

i'm watching the "Questions In a World of Blue" scene at the Roadhouse in FWWM RITE NOW!!!

OK, so there's this ancient remix of "Rocking Back Inside My Heart" which has the Soul II Soul "Keep On Movin'" beat underneath. Does anyone know where to find this? Does anyone have an .mp3???

2009 update! id really love to hear this, even if it's just a low bitrate sampler so i can find out if it's worth ordering the cd single from across the ocean. why oh why isn't every song ever available for d/l from amazon or wherever

I have that as a B-side to a CD single for RBIMH. I'll see if I can dig it up this weekend & will convert to an mp3. I can't promise anything, though, b/c it might be in storage.

I have that as a B-side to a CD single for RBIMH. I'll see if I can dig it up this weekend & will convert to an mp3. I can't promise anything, though, b/c it might be in storage.

uhh..

oh man if you could that'd be amazing!

btw, could not find this CD, so it must be in storage. good luck finding a file, tho it is probably not worth spending a lot of money on or going to a lot of trouble over (its novelty will wear off pretty quickly - its not like some great lost gem or anything).

ah no worries, thanks for looking for it though. it's actually on emule but listed as 'queue full'. hopefully i should get it eventually, if anyone reading this thread wants it just say on here or send me a pm.

just got this now and man, it's not very good. 2 individually very good things come together to make one horrid mess.

Any opinions on her "comeback" trip-hop album 'The Art of Being a Girl'?

I don't care for it. It's kind of lounge-y and generic. "Floating" is much, much better.

Classic.Played it too much in the early 90's though and I rarely want to go back to that place.

so i finally got to see the industrial symphony tonight, the song "up in flames" is stunning. those descending, gradually detuning synth washes are fucking creepy and awesome, and the bassline just smoulders.

listening to it in the context of her second album though, it doesn't seem to fit. sonically it is more in tune with floating into the night but i guess the only reason they left it off was because it eschews the wide-eyed longing romance themes of those songs and goes for a more nightmarish vibe.

won't you come over to my house... please

anyone know what synths angelo badalamenti used on this album? roland d50? </startrekman>

i think they're some of the prettiest pad sounds i've ever heard

agreed. this is one of my very favorite albums.

I found the remix of Rocking Back Inside My Heart and ripped it. If anybody is interested let me know.

I got to see her on the tour with Khan back in 99 or 2000 or whatever. So great.

Anyone who is looking for more music along these lines should get Black Earth by Bohren and Der Club of Gore, available on Ipecac records. It's instrumental, but it's totally Badalamenti doom jazz.

"Badalementi-style" I should have said. Creepy, subdued, and amazing.

I found the remix of Rocking Back Inside My Heart and ripped it. If anybody is interested let me know.

― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, April 4, 2010 9:51 AM (3 hours ago)

hi dere?

I got to see her on the tour with Khan back in 99 or 2000 or whatever. So great.

So I've not followed her at all since Floating into the Night but I was intrigued to see that she's touring with Khan again, Alex Hacke from Neubauten and Kid Congo Powers are also on the bill. Should be a fun evening.

Floating into the Night is so, so awesome.

Classic! FITN is sublime. Camp and creepy. Who else sounds like this? (Hmm, actually has anyone else attempted anything similar?)

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, October 12, 2003 4:45 PM (9 years ago)

i was about to ask the same thing!

The new acoustic Chelsea Wolfe album may scratch that itch a bit. Otherwise, try Bohren and der Club of Gore Black Earth.

But nobody really does what she did on that album.

been hammering Mysteries of Love/The World Spins/Falling/Rockin' Back Inside my Heart for the last few days. This is perfect!

I just pulled this out after many, many years after binge-listening to Mazzy Star. In some ways, not too far off in terms of vibe. Lonelier for sure.

referring to "Floating into the Night"

i like "rockin' back inside my heart"

"Movin' In On You" is probably underrated. I don't see it mentioned much. I find that lyric/singing of "You can't stop me if I can't stop myself" astonishingly beautiful.

I never went beyond the first two albums.

AMG really slammed the second album hard, but Ned seems to have written a new and more favorable review of it. How is it overall?

I think it's great but definitely not as good as the debut. But I think any fan of the debut needs it though. It feels like a direct sequel to me.

the 2nd album is only disppointing in relation to the 1st; on its own terms it's pretty great IMO.

I used to start off hating her songs at first listen, then fall madly in love with them. She's like a proto-Lana Del Rey.

ugh talk about damning with faint praise!
"Into The Night" is my fave off the first one

Me too. I admire this album but it creeps me out too much to ever want to put it on

never read a julee cruise interview before. she's a hoot!

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/julee-cruise-is-not-to-be-messed-with-interview/

Great interview.

two albums she did with pluramon are dope

Not only has her actual voice aged into a wine whose label reads “Takes No Shits,” after years of onstage experience, she often speaks with a bracing candor.

sorry, sould have saved that comment for the pitchfork thread. great interview. she's kinda a badass.

she doesnt poop

The last few songs on Cruise's second album The Voice Of Love > anything on Floating Into The Night

― (Jon L), Monday, December 27, 2004 7:24 PM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

so otm

took me 15 years to realize this

otm, parallels nicely with how i think fwwm is superior to the first two seasons of twin peaks

though "the world spins" would like a word

FWWM makes a lot more sense to me now in retrospect, especially after seeing Season 3. I re-watched it recently and there's really no other film like it (boring thing to say but it's true). Nothing this side of 2001 (or possibly Solaris) depicts nightmare logic as perfectly as FWWM

"The World Spins" is indeed a beaut

Oh my, I said TVOL was "pretty good" sixteen (!) years ago but now I can't remember anything about it. Must rectify this...

i listened to floating into the night every night as i went to sleep for a few years, a perfect record. the voice of love is very good but a little less singular?

I just saw that there wasa 2018 remastered reissue of the 2nd lp, but not seeing one of the first.
Looked it up after having put the 93 version of the 2nd lp I found on a shelf I was looking through the contents of at a time when I happened to be reading Greil Marcus talking about Twin peaks including her in the Shape Of Things.
Found taht weird since i thought it was the first lp that was popular. Or would that be why a different label, Sacred Bones could get that 2nd lp away from Warner anyway?
I thought last time I'd been looking you could only get new copies as print to order or however that worked .
Anyway, glad I found that 2nd lp now so get to listen to it for the next week before swapping the contents of my player out.

Also hadn't realised there were 2 later lps.
I heard she was opera trained so wonder if there is anything around showing her more stentorian side.

Great interview.

RIP :(

THat's a major shame, I thought she had just been announcing new stuff but may have just been me googling her when I was playing the 2nd lp.
Maybe a cue for them to remaster her first lp , Do enjoy her material and do still need to further investigate the last couple of lps. Think I only realised they existed on looking into that 2nd lp when it turned up on a shelf I was looking through. I think there's no Badalementi after the 2nd lp but she still has the voice obviously.
Think I heard she was opera trained so wonder what that aspect of her voice sounded like, seems like it might be an inverse of what she is well known for.

Looks like she actually studied French Horn, so not sure where I got the voice training thing from though do think I heard it pertaining to her . Would have been interesting to hear though. Did mean she was classically trained.

I had always heard her Lynch/Badalamenti work was not her natural singing style, that they wanted her to adapt her voice to make it more airy and ethereal, not sure if you’re thinking of that.

what?!

Her husband, Edward Grinnan, wrote on Facebook: “She left this realm on her own terms. No regrets. She is at peace … I played her [B-52’s song] Roam during her transition. Now she will roam forever. Rest in peace, my love.”

way to go.

very, very sad.

My jam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYorfBP4oNg

oh damn

those first two albums are all-time

Same with that Pluramon album that she provided vocals for. A voice tailor-made for shoegaze.

this collaborative one feels very apt today -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yjd9oquTuw

R.I.P.

I mostly know her work with Lynch, and it’s hard to imagine Twin Peaks without her — she was an essential element of its universe.

As I just muttered on social media, and probably upthread too -- it was "Mysteries of Love" in Blue Velvet for me, back in 1987. Something beautiful and unexpected seemingly out of nowhere.

RIP

on repeat today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBdH6SjBEX8

:-(

I had always heard her Lynch/Badalamenti work was not her natural singing style, that they wanted her to adapt her voice to make it more airy and ethereal, not sure if you’re thinking of that.

I saw her with the B-52's on their Interdimensional Tourgasm tour, filling in for Cindy (I was there for opener Violent Femmes and unfortunately didn't yet appreciate the B-52's or Twin Peaks, so it was lost on me). Anyway, here she is providing some background chorus vocals and dancing on Good Stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-e-bGvrI0c

absolutely nails “Roam” here, appropriately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMK6KpYDC90

Damn, I recently set out Falling in a pile of music I haven’t listened to in far too long, but I keep skipping it for other discs. Looks like tonight is the night. RIP.

Kid Congo just posted this where Julee was on tour with Kid and his then boyfriend Khan Oral. She's also a guest on their 2001 album No Comprendo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsDt9Jwy6bM

i saw that kid & khan w/ julee show at sonar. was so great. i posted 'say goodbye' from 'no comprendo' up above.

I found this clip of Cruise with the B-52s on an Argentine TV show. I don't know if her microphone is even on, but she dances with gusto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MCRa1I75pI

Dancing with gusto isn't something I had associated with Julee Cruise.

I'm reminded of how good a song "Revolution Earth" is. It's like upbeat shoegaze, if that makes any sense. As far as I can tell Cruise didn't record anything professionally with the band (on "Revolution Earth" Pierson harmonises with herself).

That clip is amazing, thanks!

Rockin' Back Inside My Heart is a great song. RIP Julee...

Julie Cruise shoegazing with Pluramon in 2007:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9rCRF_fL34

covering Wired For Sound @ .au in 2000 on the album 2020:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fejmuF4D108

If I had to pick one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40K_-akYm1w

^^Horrible audio. Better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eWn3tByhYg

I don't know if her microphone is even on, but she dances with gusto:

Her harmonies are definitely there. Just not so many opportunities for her to sing. I once saw someone (possibly on this board?) describe Dolly Parton's singing as being laser-like. I feel like that description could apply to Julee Cruise as well.

And she definitely dances with gusto!