The Avalanches

I did put up a review of "Frontier Psychiatrist" on my blog, but it doesn't fully do justice to the song, and certainly not to the album.

I don't have much to add that wasn't in my review, but what is interesting is how amazingly popular the album is here in Australia. Topping all the critics' lists, number six on the official national "alternative chart" (whatever that means), "Frontier Psychiatrist" voted 6th best song of the year by listeners of Triple J, the very popular national youth radio network. And of course the album plays everywhere, especially in music stores.

Sometimes this turns me against an album (the overkill effect), but instead all I can feel is a strange excitement - there are obviously a lot of people out there who are listening to really good music! The world can't be all bad.

Not surprising though, I guess. A great deal of the album's magic stems from the fact that as strange and wonderful it is, it's also a very accessable album. It's a party record as well as a sonic treasure chest, and its strict sampling aesthetic is leavened by the overwhelming presence of great toonz. There's something quite heartening about a record that can cross so many boundaries like that. Maybe it's the Dubya of pop?

Hopefully I'll get to see them live in two weeks. Already excited.

N. xx

www.beat.com.au

said that the BDO performance was boring (more or less), did you go the Melbourne concert?

I'm seeing them next week! :)

-Mike

What seems to be the problem, listening to the single, is that the band - like most crate-digging outfits - are too tasteful in their bliss. It's a single that does for breezy, uplifting pop what mid-90s trip-hop did for funk and old skool rap: fusses over it and squashes it a little.

Chatting on IM I compared it to GYBE!, too - the problem with that band being that they take a set of sounds which they know and we know stand for certain emotional things (seriousness, high emotion, existential pain) and they work them and work them and yes, we do feel that stuff, and they're a likeable and effective band for me but impossible to love. And I'm concerned that the Avalanches might have a similar effect - house beasts, lounge sounds, fluttery vocals, goofy samples, ah right I need to be joyful now, ta muchly.

Or maybe I'm overanalysing and I just don't like the band because the tunes are a bit sickly.

i think sukia, east of suez and tipsy have all done better with this template (although, having said that, the new tipsy album is a little disappointing too)

some of 'since i left you' is pretty good, its just nowhere near as good as everyone says.

oh, and does anyone remember that song 'slow walking' that the avalanches did a couple years ago? now, that was superb (although the rest of that ep was deadly dull)

On previous experience, DJ Shadow excepted, records with hundreds of samples stuck together can irritate. I guess it takes a real talent to "hear" how to integrate lots of disparate components to make something that is more than the sum of the pieces. In some ways I'd rather not know that the Avalanches record was a patchwork of samples. I'd rather see what I think, and find out later.

Are there any albums to which "Since I..." can be compared in MOOD, regardless of whether they were recorded conventionally or are sample- heavy?

I can almost understand why those discovering The Avalanches now might find them disappointing. Firstly, "Since I Left You" is a brilliant opener but an awful awful single. Standing alone it sounds pat, smug and ineffectual whereas on the album it strikes me as glorious and wondrous.

It's obviously been given the big push in the UK because the band now have a celebrated aesthetic and that song serves as a talking point for it in a way that "Frontier Psychiatrist" certainly didn't. And that's what was nice about the album when it came out here: that "what the fuck?" element when the expected indie-punk-hop moves were unexpectedly jettisoned in favour of such sweeping beauty. But now beauty is the band's schtick, so nothing shocks.

And obviously a couple of us did the naughty thing of building up this album to impossibly high expectations, and again the consequence is that the band acquire an uncomfortable sense of auteur-ship. Like, I find it interesting that Tom would use GYBE! as a comparison. I totally understand his point, but I reckon The Avalanches are a lot less deliberate or thought-out than GYBE! (or any of the current post-rock bands for that matter). I mean these guys are basically a group of larrakins who jump around on stage, and if anything the album's (relative) professionalism is a happy accident.

Obviously I can't just wave my hands and make everyone like it. I've been avoiding listening to it since my good headphones broke, but I know that my ardour hasn't faded.

I can see what Tom means about their sound being too predictably tasteful, but the single is unrepresentative. It's pretty much an introduction; when you get further into the album tracks like "A Different Feeling", "Two Hearts In 3-4 Time" and "Close to You" do the euphoric bliss thing far better and far less formulaically.

I don't think they're anything like as "wacky" as Dr C suspects; "Frontier Psychiatrist" is a red herring. "Etoh" and "Summer Crane" are where they really shine, after we're over that aberration; the latter has a rebirth of 70s radio pop cliche to at least equal Daft Punk's "Digital Love".

I think I may have overrated it slightly on Elidor, but only slightly. If you don't feel about halfway through "Electricity" that the rest of the world is suddenly far uglier and far more backward than it was yesterday, and it is now your duty to walk through each moment with a new zest, a new fervour, then I'm not sure whether you should be here.

but seriously, yes, as tim brings up, i blame the lot of you -- tim, robin, otis, ian -- for building expectations up to olympian heights. i *like* the avalanches, but i get the feeling from some that that's not enough; that anything less than devoting your life to them amounts to effrontery of the highest order. i can take some tracks, but i'd end up leaving more. it's a great -- bear with the use of the word here -- "gimmick," but the tunes don't stand up for me. perhaps this will be different by the next album, perhaps this is merely a warm-up. as always, time will tell.

the feeling i'm left with is that an album that alters one's world view should be a bit more convincing. to my ears, since i left you seems content to be breezy and pleasant, but i need more than that. the album, and i almost feel like i can't say this enough, *for me*, lacks a core, it lacks heart. it seems less like music made with genuine joy and love (cf. discovery) than like music crafted with...no, it sounds crafted, period. allow me to pigeonhole it as dance so that i may wrap this up: i believe that dance music is an appeal to your heart and soul from the beyond, which is why i'm not feeling since i left you: it comes across as dance music for your head.

"is being given to hyperbole a prerequisite for being an avalanches fans :)."

Well, maybe :). I do see what you mean that perhaps it doesn't necessarily utterly alter your view of the world in the way that such rapturous praise as thrown forward by myself and Tim, and that, by those criteria, it is a disappointment. I don't have any problem with others like yourself setting up their own, less ambitious criteria, and judging "Since I Left You" to be a success on those terms.

However, when the word "crafted" is used as a pejorative term, I do sometimes start worrying whether outmoded ideas about "meaning it" are being brought into the debate. I don't think *you* are, Fred, but I think you're stepping onto slightly dodgy ground. "Discovery" sounds to me at least as crafted as "Since I Left You"; obviously it's not based around sample collages, but the pomo craft mentality is still there, just less blatant.

"is being given to hyperbole a prerequisite for being an avalanches fans :)."

Well, maybe :). I do see what you mean that perhaps it doesn't necessarily utterly alter your view of the world in the way that such rapturous praise as thrown forward by myself and Tim, and that, by those criteria, it is a disappointment. I don't have any problem with others like yourself setting up their own, less ambitious criteria, and judging "Since I Left You" to be a success on those terms.

However, when the word "crafted" is used as a pejorative term, I do sometimes start worrying whether outmoded ideas about "meaning it" are being brought into the debate. I don't think *you* are, Fred, but I think you're stepping onto slightly dodgy ground. "Discovery" sounds to me at least as crafted as "Since I Left You"; obviously it's not based around sample collages, but the pomo craft mentality is still there, just less obvious.

i highly agree with you that discovery is a crafted album: of this there can be no doubt. however, the point i was trying to make, though i think i failed, was that since i left you sounds crafted. period. like a chemistry experiment. whereas, yes, discovery is crafted, but it goes on from there. and of course this is all highly subjective. ;)

I listened to the album again on good headphones on the way to university today, and yes it is still marvelous marvelous marvelous and I wouldn't change a word of my review. As much as I tend to be on the side of pop when it comes to double-standards, the deliberacy with which The Avalanches stake out their emotional targets doesn't strike me as a problem any more than it does with Destiny's Child or Britney. When I listen to "Born To Make You Happy" I recognise its manipulativeness (albeit not with such an English inflection) but I still *do* feel sad. So is the difference with, let us say, *alternative* music that there's a presumed smugness and/or claim to authenticity that irritates, or is it that we do in fact demand this authenticity in a way we have long ceased to in pop? Is the distinction with Daft Punk that they've so consistently played the artificiality card that the only recourse left to the thinking listener is to perversely perceive an *enhanced* authenticity or sense of meaning?

Ultimately Fred, as I noted before, I can't make you enjoy the album (and indeed you seem to take pleasure in that fact; how very Ned-like of you) but the implication of the "avalanches backlash" is that _Since I Left You_ is an album that dupes people, which hurts me in my heart.

The authenticity thing is a bit of a red herring. I dont think manipulation has anything to do with the realness or not of pop music. The annoying dialogue around sample-based records tends to be one of look-how-eclectic-rare-etc.-these-sounds-are: you're invited to admire the artist's tastes. But that's not happened with the Avalanches so far.

I dont know though, I've just not liked what I've heard much and thought I'd better grope around for a reason. Basically it catapults yours and Robin's soul into an ocean of joy and it leaves me thinking hold on, this is a bit cloying and annoying. And it's always easier to explain why you like something than why you don't. I've got other criticisms but I want to listen to the album and decide whether I'm right about them or not.

daft punk! they could be very well duping me into thinking that they mean all of what they're recording and it's really all just a big joke; i probably buy their simplicity of lyric and emotion because they're foreign and i potentially don't give them enough credit, etc. without getting further mired in theory, discovery hits the bullseye on my heart whereas since i left you merely grazes the ear. meanwhile, there is much hurt in that very same heart by your assertion that i take pleasure in disliking the album in ned- like fashion! ned-like! rarely have i been so insulted. but, yeah, i really wish that i loved since i left you as some of you do; i'm consistently looking out for new music to catapult my heart to the stars and based on all i heard i'm rather disappointed that it wasn't to be with me and the avalanches, though i shall continue to lend it my ear. most troubling, though, is that while i've not taken to the avalanches, radiohead's amnesiac, based on what i've listened to, is quickly becoming something i'm looking forward to. shocker!

Tom - I'd be *very* interested in your response to the album. I still think you'd realise after a while that it isn't that cloying and it *isn't* one of those emptily "smart", "superior" pomo projects, and in fact the most immediately striking thing about it is that it isn't like that. You were slightly disadvantaged by hearing "Frontier Psychiatrist" first - admittedly so did I, but I'd heard the whole album very soon and realised how (happily) untypical a novelty dud it is.

Yes, it works better as an album. It reminds me of a blither version of Hal Willner's Whoops, I'm An Indian - much more technically and sonically tingly but lacking the witty and beguiling mystery that album had for me. It's a good record, it'll soundtrack a Summer well and it deserves the praise it's getting if not the *degree* of praise.

But to finally anwser Dr.C's query: it's very hard to find a record to compare it with. Certainly not 'Discovery' (impossible). It just reminds me a bit of DJ Food's 'Recipe for Disaster'. I would think a rock-crit description could be along the lines of Mantronix doing a megamix with Art of Noise.

The way each song flows into the next (what brilliant editing!), I'm sure it works much better as a whole. This is not a record for the Napster freaks, I don't think. So anyone who has heard a track or two and is on the fence should take the plunge.

That luminarioes say he's great? well that just shows I'm a shallow person influenced by what other people say rather than what I hear.

That he's Australian? that my shallowness extends to the lowest most destructive emotion, patriotism,

That I am seeing him live in few weeks? that my general shallowness inevitably leads to the conclusion that I will have to see him live in the next few weeks (along with the Mad Professor).

Bring it on

That's from a t-shirt they sell on their website.

their supposed to be working on the new record now. who knows when it'll see the light of day. i doubt it would be before late 2004.

ps chuck d hypin somethin is like yr mum choosin yr girlfriends.

It takes a damn long time to make records like theirs. That is all, I'd guess.

I'm ordering that f*cking kitten shirt.

"Update: Belle & Sebastian Remix

The Belle & Sebastian - I'm A Cuckoo (Avalanches remix) now circulating on radio and promo CD's is not the final remix version, but rather a work-in-progress mix which was pressed up by mistake and sent to UK radio and press.

The final mix will appear (as planned) when the single is released in -

UK: CD and DVD formats on Feb 16
USA: CD on Feb 24, DVD on Mar 9"

But I do like all their remixes that I've heared.

Me, I'd rather hear them go back to the live-instruments style of El Producto and the first demo tape than do another Since I Left You anyway...

-- mark grout (mark.grou...) (webmail), February 24th, 2004. (mark grout)

No, your not alone Mr Grout. It all reminded me of Steinski & Mass Media but what, 10-15 years later?

I DL stuff from that crazie all the time! Fast connection, too...

A true oddball, that Spencer. Can't imagine who'd care!

I always hear that album in the frame of the beautiful prose of Tim F.

Now truly this is one of the finest statements ever posted on ILX. :-)

Pseudo Echo was a HUGE influence on my musical style. Check out our band, Raya. We pretty much fucking rule.
-- chieftain (hewstin...) (webmail), February 26th, 2004.

did anyone check the bootlegs on their site a while back - stuff like Royksopp's 'In Space' vs Kings Of Tomorrow 'Tracey In My Room'?

The OG version of Rock City also got released in digital form on the Redball soundtrack. Trifekta tried to license a CD release of all five tracks early this century, but the band denied 'em.

PS to Blount: the JJJ Mix-Up was Dexter. Sadly the last twenty minutes never got broadcast because of the previous show running late and the Rage cross-feed being pre-programmed in...

"The Avalanches have completed a remix of 'Chico' by Sweden's The Concretes, taken from their recent self-titled album. It will be released on the CD single 'Seems Fine' on Sep 20, as well as a limited-edition, one-sided 7" single on Sep 27."

(I've been really enjoying the Concretes album already!)

ELECTRICITY - UK, 7 " Vinyl Single - Release: Sep 13 1999 - Rex Records - Cat. No: REKD 5S
Side A
1. Electricity
Side B
1. Information

ELECTRICITY - Australia, 12 " Vinyl EP - Release: Sep 13 1999 - Modular Recordings - Cat. No: MODVL002 Production Run: 500 copies
Side A
1. Electricity
2. Information
Side B
1. Let's Cheer
2. I'm Taken

Does anyone have this on CD/mp3?

anyone heard it yet??

and it's called the wernham hogg mix i think cause it sounds like that's what she is singing in the beginning.

It's really really beautiful. Exactly what I wanted.

I mean that in the best way possible.

October sees your chance to check out some of the finest on our Modular team, when they pay you a visit and play some shows in New York and LA.
Treating you to a show of grandiose proportions will be Bumblebeez81, Cut Copy, Wolfmother and 2 drunk Avalanches playing bad records. Expect spasmodic dancing, big tunes, mad tour cameraderie, empty bottles and love struck ladies. Dates are:

Thursday Oct 14 - Space Lands LA
Saturday Oct 16 - Knitting Factory NYC
Sunday Oct 17 - North Six Brooklyn

If you're in the area, you know where to be.
modular x.

www.modularpeople.com

OTOH the dj set prior to Basement Jaxx on the Rooty tour was mostly fantastic.

http://www.modularpeople.com/03/avalanches/small_logo.jpg

is a very good sign.

Let me tell you this, minna mi mamacita, when I was in high school, there was this short lived local craze with the beads.......the necklaces and braclets you make with the tiny craft-shop beads and fishing line.......how fucking corny was this, guys giving BEADS to girls while trying to act all hard and street.......this Patrick kid was making them and selling them for five bucks each......i bought one off him and then decided i would cut his grass a little bit, get my own money......so i began taking orders, about 20 people.......that weekend I go to the craft shop and pick up the shit, sit down and get to making.......it was IMPOSSIBLE......the beads were so tiny, the fishing line would bend and wobble, and making a single one took an hour......fuck it, right?......but by then I had already spent all the money on pot and porn so I had to bullshit at school until people forgot about it.....mortifying.

Since then, whenever I think of entrepreneuring, I get scared......I'm just the type of guy to let everyone down with anything involving logistics.....like when I drive by a sign that says BRIDGE RESTORATION IN PROGRESS or a big modern building being made, I imagine myself somehow being contracted to do something like that BY MYSELF and leaving it till the last minute.......i don't even own a screwdriver.....I'd call up my mom, sobbing...."MAAMAAAAAA......I FUCKED UP...."........still, she'd show up in her sneakers that night with a tupperware box of pasta and some neon construction paper and say, "we can still do it, don't give up!".....just like all those other times......but I'd say, "Mom, not this time.......supplies for this, we can't buy at 7-11 at midnight"

I get the same feeling when I watch that surgery footage.....because I can also imagine myself somehow bullshitting my way into a position where I am performing surgery, actually beginning the procedure rather than admitting I'm a fraud and losing face, blood pouring everywhere, me having absolutely no clue how to close the guy back up......"ummmm.....scotch tape!"

I still love the avalanches, because how are they to know my esoteric phobias?

-- Ramosi (olafsonski...), May 9th, 2002.

Fuck the Avalanches, let's talk blood, failure and death. :-)

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), May 9th, 2002.

It's funny, this confluence - I did call my Mom last week.

Try putting it in all lower case.

this better be worth it.

it's 'brains'

an email from Modular:
"It's with much sadness that we have to let you know that the tour formerly known as the Modular World Domination Tour [r.i.p.] will not be happening this month. Many apologies to all who had planned to come out and see us in LA, New York and London, but due to unforseen circumstances we've had to pull the entire thing.
We're bummed about it, the bands are bummed about it, and it's quite possible that many of you are too.
We do, however, hope to have something similar in the pipeline for either late this year or early next.
When things come to fruitition, be sure we'll let you know."

No idea how true that is, though.

"M A R C H > U P D A T E
NEW ALBUM -
exploration into sampled inner space continues, and is sounding damn exciting from all reports. the band would like to thank everyone for their patience and ongoing support. "sorry its not done sooner but theres no point in putting out an insane half finished mess" is the general feeling in the camp. recording is proceeding much quicker than with the first album believe it or not - its just that no one was waiting on that one.

AVALANCHES IN ROCK SHOCK -
the guys have also been busy re - editing most of bon jovis seminal 'slippery when wet' album (excluding wanted dead or alive and without love which are shit) and will be airing these once in a lifetime versions during their melb and sydney laneway dj sets - so get down there for a once only 80's rock extravaganza."

Very wise people.

Word is that they turned in a complete album of dark and introspective noodling, were told "no-one wants to hear this" and have gone back to write a new record full of party jams (though they reckon they'll sample the unreleased one for it).

:(

http://www.theavalanches.com/

Bobby, tone and daz crank out a blistering big tent festival set, its stupid heavy metal good fun.

not sure what to think of all this.

brains (teazer) is...interesting

Fixed.

what the...? through HMV ??? huh? a butchered GIMIX??

Needless to say the mixes on that page are AWESOME.

abracadabra!

happy new year yall. we've made a heap of mixes and stuff available while we finish the record. they wont give you a hint of the new albums magical sound unfortunately, but they will keep you pilgrims well nourished until the next harvest.

its a really thrilling time for us right now as this record comes together, its so fuckin party you will die, much more hip hop than you might expect, and while there is still no accurate estimated time of arrival, were sure you're gonna love it when it arrives.

much of last year was spent cutting up the spoken word/instructional records we need to tell the albums musical story, and we have some 40 odd songs we're narrowing down and finishing. so its real, it exists, and you know we wouldn't be serving anything up unless it was gonna give you that same special feeling that since has. funnily enough its ended up sounding like the next logical step to since, we just had to go around in a big circle to get back to where we belong.

and one day when you least expect it you'll wake up and the sample fairy will have left it under your pillow.

so big up to clint for all his work in making the downloads available for everyone to enjoy, and have a great oh seven.

At the very least that story should be worked on by Gear and Ned as ILM's first (last?) foray into writing pop music fanfic.

has ILX Screenwriters Presents 'It was all Yello: The Coldwerk Sessions' been so quickly forgotten

New "yoga mind meld relaxation tape" is up on their page, it's very MBV.

Haha, from the first freakin' second! (No complaints, of course.)

I've always said they're on similar wavelengths.

No, it makes perfect sense. Beach Boys/Disco Inferno line of descent. Kinda.

I still don't get Disco Inferno, and I've listened to their entire recorded output at this point.

It's not for everyone. I'm trying to think if the thing with DI is that you intentionally can't dance to what they do, but that's not true. Not entirely.

On theavalanches.com there are new goodies to download (some on the news page, but some you have to register to get to) including what I consider to be the best mix EVER: GIMIX.

and both sides of the first 7". man that thing goes for some $$$$ now!

WHEEEEE, THAT'S ROCK CITY

COCAINE! BUBBLY!

I should have bought the red vinyl repress too, at the time I though it was a rip-off cos it didn't come with a poster like the first 500. And where is that poster now?

in the bin, like all our hopes for future avalanches material

Slow Walking is so good.

i've still not heard Ray Of Zdarlight, ridiculously.

Uh, it's GREAT!!!!!

i assumed it was a late madonna mash-up so didn't seem essential listening

it's still on the site to download

I WANT A NEW ALBUM NOW.

I hate all that "stick a bunch of samples together" music, outside of classic '88-'94 hip hop of course.

I never had an mp3 of GIMIX back then for some reason, although I LOVE LOVE LOVED Since I Left You. I just downloaded it off the site, and it's wonderful. I had an atrocious hangover on Saturday (and no sleep, due to my ongoing futile attempts to combine fatherhood with going out occasionally) and was getting the train to Southampton (to see us beat West Brom!!) generally feeling like crap. And within minutes I was literally dancing (on the escalators at Waterloo). My world was filled with sunshine and joy. I've rarely felt happier. It's ahistoricity actually seems to sum up it's era perfectly, that first Napster/Audiogalaxy rush of file-sharing, all of musical history spread out for your pleasure. So listening to it now is a kind of nostalgia for the permanent present, which is a weird idea. It sounds so light of touch as well, (whereas looking at the track list you would think it could be heavy-handed), and so light and fizzy and bubbly in the sonics, all high end skipping over the bass/beat fundamentals so you hardly notice they're there. Erm. I'm gushing rather.

any thoughts on the 'some people' mix?

http://www.nialler9.com/blog/2007/07/04/avalanches-mix-some-people/

I love it, but am kind of more excited about their long-promised 'big-tent' and full on 'brains' mixes.

Also:
I hate all that "stick a bunch of samples together" music, outside of classic '88-'94 hip hop of course.

Me too, luckily the Avalanches somehow turn that idea into something truly wonderful.

ban max r

lolol

mix sounds kind of ... not novel. and novelty's a huge part of their appeal so its a little disappointing. but i guess times have changed since 01

their album is still one of the best things, tho

The great thing about Gimix is that, by only including a handful of other people's songs, the quality control is absurdly high, and the appearance of each song is a huge surprise despite the choices being hyper-canonical(although perhaps only in retrospect) - "Like A Rolling Stone", "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturday", "Girls Just Want To Have Fun", "The Boy With A Thorn In His Side", "Livin' Thing", "Billie Jean"... It really did sound quite amazing at the time. Also some of those transitions are still stunning - the beginning of "Like A Rolling Stone" emerging from out of the "Holiday" bassline, for example.

They should really try to release their new album this year. The timing is perfect: so much stuff in 2007 that i really liked had a Avalanchesy vibe (Studio, Panda Bear, Mungolian Jetset, The Tough Alliance, Invisible Conga People) - they would sound just right in the current sonic context.

Not to forget the DJ Koze remix of Elementary Lover - Not really a Avalanchesy vibe, but more a job application to be a member of the Avalanches.

hacks

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/142685-avalanches-putting-finishing-touches-on-second-lp

yay

aussie democracy

yah dont know how excited to get tho, they had a message on their facebook back in january saying exactly the same thing

they don't look like they're in a rush to do anything

http://www.nialler9.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/aval.jpg

this will have to sound exactly the same or completely different

altho now i just saw somewhere that there's some rumour the new album will be coming out on 08/08/08??? apparently www.letitsnow080808.com was registered by one of the avalanches dudes + that's how the rumour started...

Don't know about anywhere else, but I had no idea that Since I Left You had been deleted in the UK. Doesn't bode well for the album coming out here next week at any rate.

Sorry, we couldn't find http://www.letitsnow080808.com/. Here are some related websites: :(

this will have to sound exactly the same or completely different

-- blueski, Friday, August 1, 2008 10:50 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

http://www.vh1.com/mobile/img/graphics/80s_3D/thumbs/NoDuh.jpg

too late

OK Ray of Zdarlight is one of the best songs i've heard this year

― deej, Sunday, March 4, 2007 10:16 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's a party record as well as a sonic treasure chest, and its strict sampling aesthetic is leavened by the overwhelming presence of great toonz. There's something quite heartening about a record that can cross so many boundaries like that. Maybe it's the Dubya of pop?

so weird i was just looking at their website today for an update but yeah, deej otm. not sure if tim f is otm here cuz i'm not quite sure what he's saying.

He tends to be otm.

God I miss The Avalanches.

Air France has been a nice hold me over.

I do wish people wouldn't revive Avalanches threads without cast-iron proof of a new album.

Oops.

Soz.

Can't someone get in touch with them?

Ha ha, even though I was referencing his rhetoric (at the time) rather than his performance, my jokey Dubya comparison still looks bizarre now.

So has anyone else heard that the album's supposedly coming out in July, as was announced on JJJ recently?

I'd like to believe it but July's not that far away and surely we'd have heard something official by now if it was coming out. Unless it's going to be one of those super fast releases (oh, the irony) a la Radiohead and The Raconteurs

Maybe the next album is just a special edition of Since I Left You.

surely we'd have heard something official by now if it was coming out

the label announced in December it was finished and turned in, is that not official enough?

http://livingincinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/x-files-001-450.jpg

My Sp@c3 page says that they're putting the finishing touches on to album 2...

I think that's been there for two years

I think that's been there for two years

It has, but in November it was changed to "putting the finishing finishing touches on album 2"

Every time this thred is revived I get a pang of hope :\

new Avalanches will probably be like a dissapoint like Shadow's Private Press. (which, after the Outsider, turned out to be pretty decent after all)

i'd like it to sound like 'My Girls' (but with singing more like Linda Lewis/Debbie Newman), Mike Westbrook's 'Song Of Spring' and Aeroplane remixed by cats and the ghost of Dilla

lol

xpost, have you heard of Bullion??

Also, came to post that their myspace status now says "The Avalanches ...are clearing samples."

Hmm. Good sign, I suppose. But that could take ages tho, right?

yeah + what if they can't get clearance for 10% of the samples (which is like 1000 samples in their case) they will need 5 years to find similar clearables ones. :/ ;)

wtf at them just clearing samples now

http://planetparadigm.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/patterson_bigfoot_lg1.jpg

^^^just out clearin samples

clearing samples is for suckas

new mix album meant to prime the pump?

i'm sb'ing anyone who revives this thread w/o solid knowledge of a def release date.

xpost, infos?

http://extramusicnew.blogspot.com/2009/06/avalanches-after-goldrush.html

This set looks OLD.

See here:
http://www.geocities.com/CaptainBullant/mixes.html

"At Home 7-11-01"

GREAT mix though.

they've got a couple newer mixes on their site, don't they?

sorry everybody :(

It's a good fyi anyway. Anyone who hasn't heard that mix should enjoy it right away!

no, telling people an eight-year-old set that you could probably still download on BiS until last week came out on a bootleg CD a year ago is not very good ify. SB him Granny Dainger!

i'm sb'ing anyone who revives this thread w/o solid knowledge of a def release date.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ this should go in the FAQ

But it's all C Weingarten's fault!

http://twitter.com/1000TimesYes/status/2296027782

lol @ the 1st album being a decade old soon

yeah these guys are all, like, 23 years old by now.

jezus, makes me all "what have you been doing with your life, son"

i'm sb'ing anyone who revives this thread w/o solid knowledge of a def release date.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ this should go in the FAQ

― Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 00:19 (10 months ago)

I thought we'd agreed this guys........

bump

Wow wait - since I left you was 10 years ago? Omg I'm old.

Listened to the album all the way through twice on a 600 mile roadtrip to Devon this weekend, after not touching it in probably three years. Still completely awesome, although likely helped by the glorious sun and rolling hills/lanes/cliffs as scenery. I'd also forgotten just how effortless it sounds and how well it flows from start to finish.

There's a rumor that Ariel Pink recently recorded vocals for the new album.

what new album?

the new ariel pink album

oh! sorry.

distracted by six-week old cat swiping at my 9-year old daughter.

There's a rumor that Ariel Pink recently recorded vocals for the new album.

what new album?

the new ariel pink album

Actual LOL + sense of great relief at Ariel Pink not being on the Avalanches album = 2 for 1 Tuesday!

? i'm assuming that esoj's reply was a joke...

the Avalanches' official forum admin posted "i hear ariel pink is recording some guest vocals for it and once those are done, the album will be finished (!)."

Which is the closest thing to an update in a while. They also changed their MySpace status from "...are clearing samples" to "since we left you." I like the fact that a band can make their MySpace status updates almost an event by doing nothing else (and only changing them once every 14 months or so).

the 'are clearing samples' update happened over a year ago

MySpace subject lines: for those who cannot keep up with Twitter's pace.

(and only changing them once every 14 months or so).

― rope (lloydwabbitt), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:42 (13 minutes ago)

the 'are clearing samples' update happened over a year ago

― just sayin, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:44 (12 minutes ago)

poor rope got pwned :(

I was saying that the 'are clearing samples' update happened over a year ago. Apparently I somehow completely and totally failed to communicate this fact.

I understood it. just sayin pwned himself.

ha. woops

I'm so worried this is going to be meh.

Low expectation = possibility of being impressed!

(The mixes that have surfaced over the years have been quality, though, so I'm not too worried.)

Wish they'd just put out the "downbeat journey" album that the lable nixed three or four years ago, would have been right on the zeitgeist six months ago and they* could have carried on clearing samples for the "next" one

*though spurious chatter has "them" down to one dude now

I distinctly remember reading an interview with one of the Avalanches about the time Since I Left You came out that went something like this:

INTERVIEWER: Where do you see yourself in ten years?
AVALANCHES DUDE: Putting the finishing touches on our second album.

http://www.theavalanches.com/images/downtime.jpg

http://twitter.com/theavalanches

Special announcements? Could it finally be...

i'm sb'ing anyone who revives this thread w/o solid knowledge of a def release date.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:14 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is this a twitter feed from 2001?

"stay tuned in the coming months"

what's the point of saying anything at all if you have to use 'months'

I miss Carmody.

The website's been revamped too so it does look like "something" is happening

Easy -- gearing up for the 10th anniversary 2CD edition.

Prepping for the 10 year deluxe reissue of the last one, imo.

Damn it! Ned beat me by mere seconds!

Hahah

I would love it (no really) if this was a joke twitter

was chatting with a friend of one of the band members last night and had to ask the question. was told (paraphrasing here) that the record has been completed for fucking ages and it was being held up by the other member having panic attax about it not being good enough to release. grain of salt etc

;_;

what?!? are you fucking kidding me?? will someone leak this shit already

Pass along the word that we, the listening public, will be very forgiving! We just want to hear it.

i'm sb'ing anyone who revives this thread w/o solid knowledge of a def release date.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they already scrapped one entire finished album because they got convinced that it wasn't what the public wanted from them

aspie bastards

yes what the public wants is more than a decade between records

The public wants a goddamn album is what it wants

Sadly the public doesn't really care any more and mostly can't remember who these guys are.

was chatting with a friend of one of the band members last night and had to ask the question. was told (paraphrasing here) that the record has been completed for fucking ages and it was being held up by the other member having panic attax about it not being good enough to release. grain of salt etc

On the other hand if only this had happened to the Aeroplane album...

I don't even care if they don't change or evolve what they did, I just would like another Avalanches album.

i think in australia the public definitely remembers/cares who they are

Easy -- gearing up for the 10th anniversary 2CD edition.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, November 15, 2010 10:08 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

kevin shields is going to remaster it when he's done with 'screamadelica'

but before he gets cracking on that loveless remaster....

This album will be released on the same day as Detox

I bet China will have a democracy before we see this, amirite?

Sadly the public doesn't really care any more and mostly can't remember who these guys are.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:27 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

I think the public only ever knew about "Frontier Psychiatrist" anyway.

Me = The Public. I want a bloody album.

Just think, when the album came out John Howard was only four years in office.

"In the Year Two Thousaaaaaand"

yes what the public wants is more than a decade between records

They're just trying to outdo Bark Psychosis.

I bet China will have a democracy before we see this, amirite?

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

http://fa✧✧✧.sta✧✧✧.fli✧✧✧.com/181/buddyicons/75945✧✧✧@N✧✧.j✧✧?1170043006 loool

whoa since when were flickr links garbled

since they had an '@' in them

#3 on Sterogum's most anticipated albums of 2011

so the last album came out *ten years ago* this month in the UK.

I see they're playing some festival at Sydney Opera House in May. A sliver of hope for a new album maybe?

they're DJing

I'll be happier if they never release anything else.

I'll be happier if they go back to the 97-99 lineup and start playing live again

I'd be happier if they'd been allowed to release the "journey" album they finished in 2006

"allowed"?

"allowed"?

― Number None, Sunday, 3 April 2011 12:33 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

There was a royalties/artists permissions issue I think

Next question. What's a "journey" album?

There was a royalties/artists permissions issue I think

no, the label rejected it. the band said it was more of a "musical journey" and they were sent back to come up with a "party record" instead.

ah anyway I've bored about this before:

The Avalanches

Man, that's pretty infuriating

http://www.thebrag.com/2011/04/05/interview-vivid-live-2011/

"Before I hang up, I have one more question: where the hell is that Avalanches album at, please? Pav laughs again – he’s used to this one. “Well, they’re going to be having a finished-in-the-studio party with us in May, so I’d say it’s going to be some time this year. I’ve heard it from one end to the other.” …And? “You’re asking the wrong person. I think they’re the most creative people this country has ever seen.”"

album is gonna suck giraffe balls

Internet jadedness doesn't make you cool. I still have hope.

They'd make an amazing Balearic/cosmic disco album...

Fred:

Robin:

Dave:

Fred:

Why thank you, Robin.

<3 ILM 2001

Internet jadedness doesn't make you cool.

hahah uh wut??

think you might wanna make another assessment there buddy

it's the definition of sadness and futility that I have this thread bookmarked. Everytime it bumps, disappointment.

ten years ago! are these guys just massive stoners?

clearly, they are assholes

They should've just gotten 9-5 jobs years ago and released the sample-packed album for free like Girl Talk does. I'm sure the whole delay hasn't been because of sample clearances, but it was part of it. (The rest of it is that they're obsessive perfectionists.)

also: jerks

I think they’re the most creative people this country has ever seen.
"creative", right.

They should've just gotten 9-5 jobs years ago

didn't they?

no way you can do what girl talk does and have a 9-5

yeah presumably they all couldn't live off the sales of a not-quite-mainstream-popular album for 11 years

xphttp://blog.thenewstribune.com/tacomarockcity/files/2010/02/girltalk11.jpg

girl talk had a 9-5 until sometime after night ripper

yeah presumably they all couldn't live off the sales of a not-quite-mainstream-popular album for 11 years

especially considering five members of the post-SILY band have been gone for most of those 11 years

Tony was the only non-Bobbydazzler still with them last time I saw them DJ, but that was ...over five years ago (!) and I think it might have been official that even he wasn't actually involved anymore by then

Wait how many ppl were in the band circa SILY??? I thought it was 2...?

- Five when they first formed, including the Japanese MC
- Four when the first records were coming out and they started playing interstate
- Dexter joined ...I was going to say '99, but I first saw him play with them upstairs at the Globe, which might have been closed by then, bcz IIRC the booking and door staff moved around the corner to Goldmans. He'd played on El Producto, but not as a full member, and was with them on Recovery, but that was shot in Melbourne...
- de la Cruz joined* in 2000 bringing full members to 6
- then in 2001 on the SILY tour they added that old bloke in the safari suit on percussion. Peter something.

So seven by the wind-down, down to two a while back, and rumour has it just one now.

*on keyboards, though he's absolutely the best DJ I've seen out of him vs Dexter vs "the Avalanches" in later years

seeing them next month though (with Hypnotic Brass Ensemble, under the Opera House, after Spiritualized do Ladies & Gentlemen with a 30-piece orchestra upstairs), so should be able to get an idea of who's still in and whether they can DJ a party these days (instead of playing Bon Jovi mashups to a sunburnt festival crowd)

rock stars who went back work.

Albums supposedly done, and to be realeased next year:

http://pitchfork.com/news/42650-new-avalanches-album-finished/

I HATE NEXT YEAR

Pav's been saying that all year, what makes it news now?

pitchfork noticed, so it's 'official'

They went on Radio Soulwax ahead of their terrible show last Friday and said

"It's taken a long time, yeah. I mean it's not really mixed or anything yet. We'll probably take another ten years to get it mixed."

"It's like a bedroom record just on a cheap computer which Robbie still uses. The same Mac, a beige OS 7 with software they stopped using in 1997. I have all these half written songs so if I throw the computer away I can't finish them. Every time we take the computer somewhere we have to be really careful with it and put in all these little blankets and all this stuff so it doesn't get broken. We're just waiting for it to die but it's hanging in there."

"Nothing's mixed but it's all kind of there. We're still waiting for some vocals and things like that; I think the majority of the music is done. It probably just needs to be arranged a bit and mixed."

fuck 'em.

raggggghhhhhhh

This is the opposite of the Kevin Shields/MBV situation, where you get the impression that if anything ever does surface it will be because he's finally gotten inspired and has two decades of ideas to hash about and turn into songs. The Avalanches just come across as lazy bastards.

How is this even possible

Here's the link to their interview: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/triplej/livemusic/radiosoulwax/04_friday_110603.mp3

Skip to 46:45.

They played live last Friday?? And they sucked?? Was that their first live appearance in like five years?

The Avalanches just come across as lazy bastards.

yeah but at the same time SILY is so UNlazy. Interview sounds like a wind-up. otm re "fuck 'em" tho.

They played live last Friday??

No, they DJed.

In the meantime, fill the wait for the second album with a deluxe 10th-anniversary re-release of the first album, with a bonus disc featuring "new reworks from the likes of El Guincho, MF Doom, Canyons, Black Dice, Jackson and his Computer Band." Information regarding super-deluxe package versions and the release date will be released on Facebook, sometime.

They've lost the master for this Stereolab remix of Since I Left You, so someone in the office has ripped it from vinyl for Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/modularpeople/the-avalanches-since-i-left-you-stereolab-remix

ha

i mean i know the underlying issues are not funny but still, ha

^ if ever there was a time for scare quotes

I hate this thread

BTW, note that with no release date yet set, the "deluxe 10th-anniversary re-release" is likely to come out more than 11 years after the initial release - at time of announcement, it's already 8 months late.

Hey, Jackson and his Computer Band. There's another guy who dropped off the face of the earth

i believe he made some kind of Jamie Liddell-ish album a year or 2 back. maybe last year, even.

Really? I can't find any evidence of this online

hmm googling myself now, and it seems i just made that up, i must have gotten him mixed up with some other idm cat who started singing. :)

That boy needs therapy lol

hah I used to eagerly wait for a new Jackson album to drop but I think i've made my peace with the fact that it won't come out. I think he's done a ocuple of remixes in the last few years?

http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/19/danny-brown-to-appear-on-new-avalanches-album/

Is that an Onion article.

It does exist! Kind of an odd choice of rapper but i'm cool with it

i heard that they accidentally deleted all the album files

Tuesday, 30 January 2001 01:00 (11 years ago)

Since I Left You double LP re-release on blue vinyl out now, 10th-anniversary deluxe reissue now running two years late, new mix up here

Thanks for the link

It's only a snippet but

http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/18/avalanches-tease-brand-new-track-online-listen-here/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Vt65NzOQg

listened to Cool Gays, the bit at the end sounds like a remix of a bit of SILY, zomg new track zzz

there's some new song (demo) out there featuring David Berman reading a poem, but it's pretty half ass. the music underneath is barely audible.

:/
i am becoming despondent.

new david berman poem (ie 'like plastic Easter basket grass, falling from an overpass') >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully audible avalanches music

Well! *tap tap tap* You've lost your cover now.

Them and Dre, in a race to do...something.

*sigh*

don't tell me Them have re-united as well??

Cautious optimism stirring...

http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/latest-news/new-avalanches-album-due-next-february-128449

Some time in the next 126,436 years then.

I'm not rereading all of this but have we talked about the Zomba pre-release promo that has even more extra bonus samples that had to be removed bcz of clearance issues (like Rogers & Hammerstein ones and stuff)? Bcz it is SO GOOD

Also apparently the OG Modular AUS release has more samples than any other re-release either in Aus or any other country (incl US)

It has a song that wound up on the b-side of Frontier Psychiatrist re-sequenced into the album towards the beginning. It's on what.cd and it's fucking awesome n shit

see Notes sections of:
http://www.discogs.com/Avalanches-The-Album/release/2068568
http://www.discogs.com/Avalanches-Since-I-Left-You/release/132062

xxp you mean gimix, the one with girls just wanna have fun on it?

No, it's def not that

it's this one http://www.discogs.com/Avalanches-The-Album/release/2068568

i havent heard that! awesome, will check out

I have, bought it pre-release day on a visit to Melbourne

Well of course you have

<3

stevie otm

hm yeah never knew this existed

can i be a jerk and ask for a webmail is that cool

Yes! I will web mail it freely!

ty!

yeah the original version of the album was pretty different, it was the one i heard first back in the day. Radio for example begins with a little sample of a drunk girl and a guy arguing "I'm watching television" "but that's the test pattern!" " get outta my way i like it" etc.

I've definitely heard that version of Radio, but I haven't heard the version of Since I Left You that has 'With My Baby' on it.

i'm sb'ing anyone who revives this thread w/o solid knowledge of a def release date.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:14 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh fuck off this might as well be a new album

Pisces I didn't realise there was any other version!

lol the first album might as well be a new album

you can tell the difference by whether Tonight May Have To etc is called that, or just Tonight, on the sleeve

I probably say this upthread two or three times already, but on zing & can't check

I think there are like 3 or 4 diff versions: pre-release Zomba promo, OG Modular release in Oz, all other releases in all other countries (and maybe another idk)

Every fucking time someone revives this thread I leave dussapointed.

Disappointed, even.

I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR THIS "ZOMBA" MIX THANK YOU.

ysi

sent to both

how diff to OG Modular is it

Not nearly as diff as modular is from other releases but still p fun

Why don't I just go ahead and send it to you and u b tha judge

I mean if anything it'll be a great fun excuse to revisit SILY

lol someone else already put it on, while we were sitting around the fireplace drinking whisky. on a Scottish island, after dinner, tonight

(normally I don't use enough commas so I put a surfeit in that sentence)

he was all "I'm sure I have the original version because I downloaded it illegally" but no

then we put 69 Love Songs on for background #year2000styles

sic seems to be living the perfect life, tbh

zomba me please

would also love to be zombad

I didn't mean to say Stevie shouldn't zomba me

the OG Modular was the first record in my collection for which I ever paid a butthole-clenchingly substantial amount on Discogs, but my XL UK copy skips on "Live At Dominoes" so I needed a new copy anyway, right?

it is noticeably different from the XL release but the hard part about picking out the differences is turning off the part of my brain that's rocking the fuck out to the awesomeness of this record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0yS0E8mDBg <-- didn't know this existed

I never knew that the Modular version was ever different. I picked up the OG import in HMV when it came out though so happy to hear I got the good version.

I remember doing a search on NME gig finder and finding their Camden gig (first UK gig?) before any publicity went out for it and getting tickets...

a recent search for that gig has found this gem from an Avalanches site...

Update, 8th August 2001: The Avalanches are playing at The Electric Ballroom in Camden Town, London, just down the road from my house tonight. And I can't get hold of a ticket. Doh!

Update, 8th August 2001, a bit later in the afternoon: Have just been given ticket for the world premiere of The Parole Officer starring Steve Coogan tonight, which I must say, more than makes up for missing The Avalanches. Hurrah!

I'm not sure that I agree with that last sentence..

Want zomba!

man the early tracks on the zomba are enormously better

not sure if I'm missing most of them later (just hit Extra Kings and that one's chunky) or drunk but still, worthwhile upgrade for the version on yr ipods

they were still better live before SILY though *single nostalgic tear rolls down cheek*

plz only bump when new release is coming

here guys I got you your own hangout space

Thread for the new Avalanches album ONLY (WHICH IS NOT OUT YET) so all you shits can stop having tantrums when we bump the other thread

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/kitbrash/avalanduke_zps81f272a9.jpg

Is that somewhere in Melbourne?

sydney

Thought that this would be news on the second album, oh well

Also, just found out now that Darren Seltmann left the group, which pretty much leaves them as a duo right now

$10 pasta all day!

$10 pasta all day!!!

how do people exist in and out of a "group" that hasnt done anything in 15 years

I think it basically depends on what works best for maximising dole payments

that hasnt done anything in 15 years

Six months, tbf.

In all seriousness that sounds like it could be a v fun/funny Sat night

ugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAa9diDQIV8

Oh. False bump. Well then.

here guys I got you your own hangout space

Thread for the new Avalanches album ONLY (WHICH IS NOT OUT YET) so all you shits can stop having tantrums when we bump the other thread

― Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, November 15, 2013 1:21 PM (4 months ago)

A new track allegedly leaked on Australian radio: https://soundcloud.com/striation/new-leaked-avalanches-track-another-world

Sounds legit, but who knows? Great idea sampling Boz Scaggs, anyway.

fake or not is a p good jam

yeah nm it's fake. sorry yall

http://www.factmag.com/2015/01/14/avalanches-might-have-just-unveiled-a-new-song-hear-another-world/

Yep:
http://amherstisgood.bandcamp.com/album/yaper

In July 2015 after 13 years James De La Cruz rejoined the Avalanches.

^ according to wikipedia?

For what, dinner?

Just got the album in Poundland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsQkEm6_Gv0&feature=youtu.be

I know, I know, it's nothing, but their site, Facebook and soundcloud have all updated their main images to this:
https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12985533_10153390058597273_7041906199951598575_n.jpg?oh=0f2ecfae8b39d1ba6975463096b14591&oe=57841AF8

"There is so much stubborn hope in the human heart. The most destitute of men often end up by accepting illusion."

They're planning a twitter war with Kendrick Lamar this time?

i'm sb'ing anyone who revives this thread w/o solid knowledge of a def release date.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:14 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fuck this album. I don't even want to hear it anymore.

from their theavalanches.com site which is still regularly updated:

"M A R C H > U P D A T E

NEW ALBUM -
exploration into sampled inner space continues, and is sounding damn exciting from all reports. the band would like to thank everyone for their patience and ongoing support. "sorry its not done sooner but theres no point in putting out an insane half finished mess" is the general feeling in the camp. recording is proceeding much quicker than with the first album believe it or not - its just that no one was waiting on that one.

― i'm from hollywood, Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:08 PM (10 years ago)

hate this thread >:(

http://i.imgur.com/VHXqNRx.png

DJ set or real live 'performance', I wonder

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/13/avalanches-confirm-first-live-shows-in-15-years-as-splendour-in-the-grass-announces-lineup

"There is no new information on whether the Avalanches’ tour will be accompanied by the long-awaited second album..."

"Over the years the Avalanches has lost four members – including founding member Darren Seltmann, turntablists Dexter Fabay and James De La Cruz and keyboardist Gordon McQuilten – leaving only Robbie Chater and Tony DiBlasi in the band, although this line-up has not been confirmed since 2014."

de la Cruz is a great party DJ but was a keyboard player in the Avalanches

@TheAvalanches 1h ago
9 June - @OvalSpace, London

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CizQ8WTUUAAwF_q.jpg

Supposedly, a music video was being shot just over a week ago for the single "Frankie Sinatra", which has been rumored to be the Danny Brown collab. Some members of a New Orleans brass band were involved and one of them posted some pics on Instagram, but either removed most of them or at least removed any mention or the Avalanches. One of the removed pictures was this patch which seems to go along with the whole Butterfly motif of the logo on their page. Also, a few days before the music video, the song "Frankie Sinatra" had been added to the APRA database with additional credits going to Rodgers and Hammerstein and Houdini, which has been assumed to refer to Wilmoth Houdini and is likely sampling his song Bobby Sox Idol.

Well, something is going on...
http://www.theavalanches.com

https://youtu.be/NAMPOAfdH8U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAMPOAfdH8U

See, all this potential interest and goodwill and they piss it away with the inclusion of Ariel Pink and Father John Misty.

They said (years ago) that the new stuff was v hip-hop, offputting guest appearances included I guess.

You'd hope that this would precede a second album but to be honest I don't think I care anymore

At least they're taking the piss well enough. New audio bits in the video seem interesting!

http://pitchfork.com/news/65753-the-avalanches-tease-new-song-subways-via-hotline/?mbid=social_facebook

New music. Dial (855) 953-3597 to hear it.

or +44 800 098 8938

i.e. IT'S HAPPENING etc

sounds avalanchey

http://pitchfork.com/news/65769-the-avalanches-releasing-new-music-today/

the hype surrounding these guys is real weird to me. i feel like ppl see this group as some sort of genius artistic studio production team rather than just turntablist bros. like the one huge hit song was just a dude's competition entry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vHEFwjr8dk

Frontier Psychiatrist is a total outlier on Since I Left You Though

i feel like ppl see this group as some sort of genius artistic studio production team rather than just turntablist bros. like the one huge hit song was just a dude's competition entry.

everything is "just" something

Frontier Psychiatrist is a total outlier on Since I Left You Though

― Number None, Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:12 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup, i love this album but that song sucks hard. always skip it.

i don't really impart any ideas of "genius" or whatever on the guys who made the album, i just think it's a dope album. i guess ppl who write about music for $$ have to make up shit like that, though.

i could see how that could apply if i wrote about music for money.

15 years too late but I'll take it.

New song premiering in ~5 mins on Australian radio

features Danny Brown and MF Doom

Very much in the "Frontier Psychiatrist" vein. It's very good on that level, but I'm eagerly awaiting the more ethereal stuff which the snippet of "Subways" portends.

So fucking garbage.

Yeah I...don't like this song at all but the telephone song sounds good

new album: 'Wildflower'

The whole time it was playing I was thinking "This is a throwaway Gorillaz song that Albarn wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole."

'throwaway Gorillaz song' is otm, this has basically nothing to do with anything I liked about Since I Left You

a lot like the live/breezeblock van dyke parks parts; want to hear the whole thing. afraid for the 'guest stars'

21 songs on the album

listening to the Beats 1 interview now.

'guest stars' mentioned:

Camp Lo
Jonathan Donohue (Mercury Rev, Flaming Lips)

Camp Lo = "...got the bubbly, pumpin' through me - sparkly"

http://image.prntscr.com/image/180c1eda74754f438bd3e173529c9121.png

(P.S. "Just kidding, here's our shitty song.")

Father John Misty does not contribute any lyrics.

Toro y Moi

I honestly don't think I've been this viscerally angry about hearing something I've been wanting to hear since the Aeroplane album leaked in 2010.

just relistened to the Talking To A Stranger remix, had forgotten the huge Relight My Fire section early on

no fucking release date gtfo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj6w1GyUgAAibTa.jpg

ah, expected july 8 per itunes

the more ethereal stuff which the snippet of "Subways" portends.

Yes, that was nice(r), but after Frankie Sinatra and the list of guest contributors revealed, my lack of enthusiasm feels fully justified.

from that interview a track with august darnell didnt make it >:[

I honestly don't think I've been this viscerally angry about hearing something I've been wanting to hear since the Aeroplane album leaked in 2010.

Johnny, what out of all the bits and pieces "they"'ve (before and after Dazzler left) released in the last five-ten years, made you get your expectations high?

it's not like Darnell's last collaboration with an Australian dance group from the late '90s was anything worth writing home about

Tracklisting:
1. The Leaves Were Falling
2. Because I’m Me
3. Frankie Sinatra
4. Subways
5. Going Home
6. If I Was A Folkstar
7. Colours
8. Zap!
9. The Noisy Eater
10. Wildflower
11. Harmony
12. Live A Lifetime Love
13. Park Music
14. Livin' Underwater (Is Somethin' Wild)
15. The Wozard of Iz
16. Over The Turnstiles
17. Sunshine
18. Light Up
19. Kaleidoscopic Lovers
20. Stepkids
21. Saturday Night Inside Out

Johnny, what out of all the bits and pieces "they"'ve (before and after Dazzler left) released in the last five-ten years, made you get your expectations high?

I never listened to any of it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjfspM5sDIA&lf=9fa1a40090d6beabd2e6713b09045327

this new song is so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah not feeling this sorry, I would've preferred for them to become a meme and keep posting 'new album coming this year' for another 20 years and then announce they are disbanding.

Hopefully at least there's a song in the album that was worth the wait.

First time through (and on second and third repeats, admittedly), I'm thinking "what is this shit?!" Not sure what I was expecting, but it wasn't this. But because the Avalanches have build up 16 years of doubt benefits, I'll wait to panic until I've heard the album and this particular track in context.

looks like the album version is a bit shorter thankfully

They waited too long and their schtick has been perfected and forgotten by now. If this whole album sounds like bad Gorillaz outtakes then best you can hope is that it doesn't tarnish the nostalgic value of the debut.

Debut is not good in single song doses either so I'll give them the benefit of doubt.

It's at least still not as bad as when DJ Shadow decided to do Hyphy.

i'm pretty sure this song is going to sound bad in whatever context it's placed

Yeah not feeling this sorry, I would've preferred for them to become a meme and keep posting 'new album coming this year' for another 20 years and then announce they are disbanding.

They waited too long and their schtick has been perfected and forgotten by now.

Not to harp on it, but they have effectively disbanded a couple of times over. At least two albums by the two-man collaboration that made Since I Left You* have been scrapped, Chater continued on his own, and then from the wording in reports of the Beats interview, drew Di Blasi back a few years ago to at least have someone around to bounce ideas off.

AFAIK, Tony Pepperoni's only public contribution to Avalanches output in the last 13 years was writing a blog about taking too many "pingas" at a Modular party or Brainz night, circa 2006? Anyone else remember anything else?

De La Cruz appears to have been hastily re-recruited now that Chater needs to put live and DJ shows together. Remember he only joined the group as a keyboard player after SILY, when they needed more members onstage to try and fake a recreation of the album, and rose to prominence when they had to shift to touring as DJs instead. As the best regular playing-records-for-people-to-dance-to type DJ in the group, he continued working more consistently as they drifted away from regular activity.

*and Since I Left You only being done by Bobbydazzler was already sidelining the actual band who'd made all the previous records and live shows.

"drew Di Blasi back and started from scratch," I should have said.

their schtick has been perfected and forgotten by now.

by who, exactly?

honest question. I would like to hear more albums that sound like 2001 Avalanches

it's good to see someone continuing the work started by the first gorillaz album

RIP Dan the Automator

did these people live off royalties for 15 years - is that possible? or did they go back to real jobs?

Seeing as the whole album was basically made up of samples, would they even get any royalties?

these people

this person

Blimey. This belongs on the shitpile of 'rolling worst songs of 2016'.

the rapping on this is fun & good the rest of it is like.... almost aggressively bad

I like The Avalanches and Danny Brown and MF Doom, so how did this happen?

Doom and Danny verses are awesome

"Take some vodka/Sip slow rocker, ock/Rip rhymes since the days of Frankie Crocker rock"

Are people really surprised this is shit? I loved Since I Left You as well but it was also very much of its time (perhaps even a bit behind it) and there have been multiple breakups, changes of direction and scrapped projects in the sixteen years (!!!) since, none of which boded well.

xp yeah, you could probably do something w/ the acapellas

their schtick has been perfected and forgotten by now.

by who, exactly?

honest question. I would like to hear more albums that sound like 2001 Avalanches

― Number None, jueves 2 de junio de 2016 7:39 (7 hours ago)

It depends on what part of their sound you like. For the sample based music I think The Books and Panda Bear's Person Pitch are more interesting than their debut and made something better out of the style. For music that sounds similar I think Jens Lekman, Air France and Go Team sound like there is a membee of the Avalanches involved... Maybe early Caribou or Four Tet are comparable too. Instrumental hip hop there's too many to mention. This new song sounds lile something El-P or Guts or Gorillaz would have done and then release as a b-side.

Not taking into consideration artists like Dj Shadow, Mr Scruff, RJD2, Lemon Jelly and almost everyone on the ninjatune label since they existed years before the debut.

For the sample based music I think The Books and Panda Bear's Person Pitch are more interesting than their debut and made something better out of the style.

My face right now: o_O

Johnny Fever posted: 24 November 2010 10:25:25

Pass along the word that we, the listening public, will be very forgiving! We just want to hear it.

Nice to know that Johnny Fever's idea of being forgiving is calling something fucking garbage.

you guys made me buy their album once. my revenge is frankie sinatra. it's your new summer jam!

YOU did this?

if nothing else, this is great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB159Ac7sh0

Johnny Fever posted: 24 November 2010 10:25:25

Pass along the word that we, the listening public, will be very forgiving! We just want to hear it.

― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, June 2, 2016 10:55 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nice to know that Johnny Fever's idea of being forgiving is calling something fucking garbage.

― MarkoP, Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:00 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol @ me