― Ian White, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Anyhow, by reading your blog (particularly the thing about the CD changer) and seeing you rummage my CDs and MP3s, it's rather clear to me that the only person I share even 50% of my opinions with is you, Ian. Just admit you asked that question so you could get props.
― Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
*lets watch swing back and forth* Now look into my eyes and tell me you'll go out and get Exciter by Depeche Mode. There, see, you feel better already!
"Thank You" -- better Dido than a certain Ms. Morrisette. GRG.
After Nitsuh's Men Without Hats revelation, I sense a closer musical kinship than I'd previously thought. One thing about having almost completely random tastes; it's easy to find compatible music with other people.
― Dan Perry, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Melissa W, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DJ Martian, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthony, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
But my long lost twin brother is Stevo (give or take some tiny details in re. The Cl*sh/Autechre ;)
― Omar, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Geoff, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Billy Dods, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dr. C, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
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Indeed you do, sir. We still seem to be the only ones who like Urge Overkill though. Makes you understand Tadeusz better in re. Z*pp* ;)
btw Dr.C did you by any chance catch Roxy Music live recently? Just wondering.
― Omar, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― JM, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Now if Eno was involved.....
― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Dissimilar: ??? Probably Ethan, although I love hearing what he has to say. I just don't know much of the stuff he usually raves about. #
― Arthur, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Hi Ned, did you feel that earthquake this afternoon? ####
― stevo, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Dr.C re: Roxy, I'm going to see them on thursday. I heard they start the set with 'Remake-Remodel' and end with 'For Your Pleasure'[starts to drool].
― Omar, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
pinefox probably hates the greatest number of records i love. josh might love the greatest number of records that i hate. we seem to approach a lot of the same broad areas of music from totally different angles. he's on the right path with neubauten and wire though.
― sundar subramanian, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"It's Too Soon to Know." A great song by the Orioles.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― palpable, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
re. guitar sounds, I usually trust Steady Mike's judgement.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The only obstacle is that I first have to extricate myself from the other ILM band I seem to be in at the moment - Dr. C and Captain Swing (euro-rap duo). Shouldn't be a problem - 'erm Robin, I quit!
― Dr. C, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 31 May 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 31 May 2003 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― doom-e (Jam), Saturday, 31 May 2003 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Saturday, 31 May 2003 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 31 May 2003 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 31 May 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 31 May 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)
actually i think you'd be surprised - i'm a lot less indie than i come across..
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 31 May 2003 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― doom-e (Jam), Saturday, 31 May 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 31 May 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 31 May 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― doom-e (Jam), Saturday, 31 May 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― doom-e (Jam), Saturday, 31 May 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Saturday, 31 May 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 31 May 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)
there must be many i have forgotten, no offense intended...- clive from somnolence in general- josh used to listen to simliar music as me but i have totally lost him in the past two years- ned for mbv and some smashing pumpkins- tom for wedding present and jesus & mary chain and teenage fanclub
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 31 May 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)
of course.
i see ned's lists of things he's picked up recently and i think "wow, looks like my shopiing list".then he remarks how he likes ***** **** and i wonder.
― gaz (gaz), Saturday, 31 May 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Saturday, 31 May 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)
to end off with the list thing: ronan for planetarium house, tom for novelty songs, matos n finney for shiffleshufflepifflehouse, zemko n minna (add SFJ now i guess)for hip to the hizzop, sundar for music with thick shiny guitars, gareth for mid 90s forgotten dance artefacts, jess on aim for ugly garage and various things and to tell me when the above = wrong.
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 31 May 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 31 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 31 May 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 31 May 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 31 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)
matos for me for the former. jess tnds to reconfirm things i know i'll be interested in.
for the latter...y'all, serious.
― gaz (gaz), Saturday, 31 May 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 31 May 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)
I should get a finder's fee or something.
I share a lot common ground taste-wise with lots of folks here (contrary to popular myth, I do listen to music other than Killing Joke, Firewater, the Misfits, etc.) Ally's a bit more open-minded to pop, hip hop and r'n'b than I am, but she knows what rocks and what doesn't. I cannot get my head around Anthony's appreciation for the pabulum-cakes-iced-with-runny-dung that are Good Charlotte and Limp Bizkit, but his lack of cynicism is admirable. Ned, Yancey, Hstencil and a veritable host of others are all firmly rooted on the Island of Good Taste (whereas many, many others flounder haplessly out to sea), but everyone seems to have those one or two arguable guitly-pleasures that set them apart from everyone else (why Ned champions the Smashing Pumpkins I'll never know).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)
actually tho, I'm such a freakin' dilettante. I love too much stuff. but yeah I feel a real affinity w/ JBR on rock, Julio on improv, and Amateurist on older blues/country stuff. Also, I second Martin on that Jess Hill fellow. He writes well on soul/R&B type stuff and he totally needs to post more!
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)
JBR and I share a lot of common ground, it seems. Her unflinching support for Devo earns her a permanent spot on the lifeboat (the rest of you lot can sleep with the fishes!)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Allen, Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
KISS is enjoyable in a cheesy way -- though i unreservedly love KISS Alive! which IS one of the best live albums of all time!
― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)
Alex may be one the first people to refer to my tastes as uncynical rather than "contrarian," something I really appreciate. I should note that though we disagree on plenty I appreciate the passion, dare I say, the FIRE with which you celebrate your chosen heroes, Alex. Such enthusiasm (And colorful word choice) is kickass.
There's a lot of people who I'd think I have some similar taste with, but then they either go support some shit-on-a-stick band or they completely dismiss an entire genre that's given me plenty o' pleasure. But other people whose opinions I find usually on point include jbr, sundar, James Blount, Jeanne fury and maria b.
Dan Perry and Ned's tastes fascinate me probably more than any others.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm seriously bummed that he is posting less these days.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)
i like the idea (and mental image) of Paul Stanley doin' the foxy dance to the strains of The Pleasure Principle, meself!
― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)
I feel relatively close to Zemko too, taste-wise, though where is he? Zemko, if you're there, I was in London recently and I stepped off the train at New Cross and the first thing I saw was a large graf'd 'Zemko' across the wall - was that you?
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)
I third it! what a lovely post (and subsequent offline emails) on james blood ulmer.
I'd like top mention sundar and dave q (who listens to a much wider selection of music i reckon, i always get lots from his posts).
''I feel relatively close to Zemko too, taste-wise, though where is he? Zemko, if you're there, I was in London recently and I stepped off the train at New Cross and the first thing I saw was a large graf'd 'Zemko' across the wall - was that you?''
haha! just like you cozen, he changed his name. Look really hard (this is kind of like nabisco not spotting when you changed yr name coz, I'm laughing hard here, unless yr joking in which case I look the fool).
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)
(I love old 70's prog - Yes were one of my first loves and remain so - but for whatever reason I never got into Genesis; Geir's unrelenting enthusiasm for them has got me wanting to listen to them again)
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 31 May 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 May 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 31 May 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 31 May 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 31 May 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 31 May 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 31 May 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 31 May 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 31 May 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)
And yes, I am another one of those people who got into Killing Joke because of Alex in NYC. You really should be paid a finder's fee by the group members.
I look forward to someday down the line being able to relate my musical tastes in general with someone around here and vice versa. I like how I've "met" Ned and Dan, two people who also adore The Cure, and it is kinda nice to see a discussion forum filled with mature adults (and mature adult-to-bes) who also like Duran Duran but don't go on and on about how exciting those halcyon days were and OMG wasn't ________ absolutely adorable?, but in general? Maybe in a year or so I'll find out the answer to that quandary.
― Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 1 June 2003 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 1 June 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)
That's really nice to hear. Which one?
To answer the thread q.: none of you like Annette Hanshaw (I don't think) = I don't know any of you.
― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 1 June 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 1 June 2003 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)
a 2 CD set on Indigo records called 'Going back to old kentucky'. It covers the early days of Bluegrass and I found the liner notes to be really informative as well.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 1 June 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 1 June 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 1 June 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 1 June 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 1 June 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)
1/"francesco zappa" synclavier electronic music elpee2/ bits of "hot rats"3/ thee odd bit here & there
"shut up and play yer guitar" volume...er...whatever....is the WORST record i have ever heard in the world ever, even worse than bloody kitaro.
his lyrics = sux0r
generally i agree w/you abt "freak out with the mothers"
I was going to suggest you review all of marillion's post-fish albums and er trace their arc mumble mumble, but i thought that wd be too cruel a fate for you to endure!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 1 June 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 1 June 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)
geir probably most dissimilar... and where is he now not seen the old fella in ages...
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 1 June 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 1 June 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 1 June 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)
And we were at the same Giants game too.
― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 1 June 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 1 June 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)
I've been waiting, what, *three years* for you to start a blog and prove yourself wrong.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 1 June 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― ian johnson, Monday, 2 June 2003 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 2 June 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee (Leee), Monday, 2 June 2003 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)
I have completely mental taste, totally obsessive, schizoid, self-conscious, idiotically sentimental, and overanalytical.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 2 June 2003 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)
Hrm.
why Ned champions the Smashing Pumpkins I'll never know
Easy, cause they're great. :-)
We aim to please.
Thanks for all the kind or bemused words. ;-) I hold to my original answer, which is of course The Dan, man of mystery and wonder and worth. I have picked up quite a bit from others in general and always well (Momus and Dr. C on the Passage being a fine current example).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 June 2003 05:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Monday, 2 June 2003 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)
I did watch him on TV when i was in toronto. he was OK then but i supposed that isn't high enough praise.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 2 June 2003 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)
As to similar tastes, I really can't say. Most of you have at least some rockist tendencies, while I have none (I own about 10 rock records, last time I bought one was in 1997).
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 2 June 2003 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 2 June 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 2 June 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Monday, 2 June 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 2 June 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 2 June 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 June 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)
heh, yeah i remember that. its the first time anyone has actually said i've written something 'amazing'. thanks.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 2 June 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)
great place, this is...
― willem (willem), Monday, 2 June 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
i suspect mark s has been exposed to all the things that fell out of british culture after punk emerging as style and fashion, circa j.division, t.g. onwards (ie stuff other than bloody m.b.v.), mark as someone perhaps coincidentally/ contemporaneously knowledgeable and sympathetic with/to a lot of the peculiarly english improv
there are overlaps with the primarily black radical avant-garde of the u.s. thats european consequences perhaps date from the time of the a.a.c.m. late '60s paris scene, oddballs like the mutantes and brotzman and the melting pot of swinging london almost hand in hand with underground music in the u.s. and then what might loosely be called 'free-jazz' all from the largest and most cosmopolitan of the worlds cities
three decades of artistic impression really creating *something*, some change (often with unexpected consequences) in society everywhere -- i'm so scared that this avenue for realistic dialogue through art has been stymied by a more all-encompassing generic world culture in this new century, a culture of mere consumption at least marketed generically, the empire striking back would be the way i suppose jefferson starship meant it
duane is someone who i suspect i could spend hours with discussing developements in music/art in the late 20th century, di someone who could really provide other less canonical perspectives on some of the peculiarities in the culture of the last 30-40 years
messrs diamond, blount, stencil, clover .. i guess they're aware of a lot of that yet maybe they're more interested in the futures of music
obv. julio is a keen devotee of some of the (lazily labled) 'fire music' made with instruments including guitar and i have to work harder to maintain his less than others' interest in composers of recent classical and jazz 'instrumental music' (how does intelligent. instrumental. music. sound ?)
― george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
oh, i really mean the '50s through to the '80s, as the '90s don't seem to have left the same giant footprints -- maybe time will change that, but when i reflect on developements over the last ten years in music, well progress in music has seemed to me much less important socially and artistically and much more corporate and generic than those other more formative decades -- maybe the subsumation of sonic youth and nirvana into the mainstream and the calculated corporate progress of britpop (oasis = blur = radiohead, even marketing like 'j.spaceman') have been the most dissapointing elements of mainstreaming in music as the industry downsizes
for all the so-called independent music anybody with equipment can manufacture themselves these days, the strength and urgency of good independent music seems to have been thoroughly diluted in the public mind by all the recent and often electronic independent music that seems to boil down to easy-listening-muzak, muzak to dance to or "ambience" or "trance" with nothing to say like bad progressive rock ("music of the uncommitted"), professional 'independent' music -- such a pity, given that there is great independent music in amoungst the rest, perhaps sinking through simple lack of initial superficial attractiveness qualities
― george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Neudonym, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)
george we DID spend many hours in the late 20thC. doing this, as i recall
― duane (hellbaby), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane (hellbaby), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)
I think an odd misconception has developed that that is my musical taste. I like acoustics in a lot of contexts, and I like songwriters in lots of ways - yes. But I suspect that the combination of them here is pointing at something that's not particularly what I'm about.
Then again: odder than the misconception is the fact that anyone still mentions me in such a context on ILM: which touches me a little.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Three years late here, but that's not true!
I love Annette Hanshaw.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:35 (nineteen years ago)