This is the thread where Nate listens to and, ergo, comments on his local college radio station

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Right now they are playing a very boring drone-whisper somnambulist plod-rock cover of New Order's "Leave Me Alone". I forget who this is, but I know they've been playing it on this station since at least 2000.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

oh nate why why

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

(not consecutively of course; I mean it was on their playlist back then)

The great thing about this station is that they are prone to playing non-Western music every so often, so occasionally they'll play something from Iceland or whatever. Whatever it is they're playing now, it sounds like a traditional-arrangement version of the Kinks. It might be a while before the DJ actually says who it is.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

gc, do you fear for my welfare or Radio K's?

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

next week do mine, k?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh hey, Gift of Gab! Either this is from some upcoming solo album where he enlists non-Blackalicious producers, or Chief Xcel has really fallen off.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

And this chorus suuuuuuuhhhhhks.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

MORE HARRY NILSSON SAMPLES PLS

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

you know even when the music is a B- overall the dj's are a solid D.

they all.

speak like this?

and, yeah.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i know they're just kids but you know RAISE YOUR STANDARDS and all.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

This chorus is so emotionlessly delivered it took me until the third reiteration until I realized it was a takeoff of "Puttin' on the Ritz".

Chappaquiddick Skyline were responsible for the shitty New Order cover. I have no idea how to spell the name of the Kinks-esque "international" song but I think it was Greek.

Oh hey, the Kills. I bet this song will be great if it lasts no longer than two minutes.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i was trying to explain college radio to tom yesterday.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i couldn't really.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

the best i could do was pirate radio on downers.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a futile exercise, Jess.

Do the Breeders really work as a jug band (without a jug)?

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"nervous twitter...30 seconds of silence...scratchy indie record...30 seconds of silence...nervous twitter..."

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean the shuffle-jaunt country bits of this Kills song are neat but the parts that ain't veer a little too close to Beat Happening land

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I see playlists every now and then but they might as well be in hieroglyph.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I still hear lots of amazing music on the two major college stations near me. I really don't give a rat's ass what the dj's sound like as long as they back-annouce, and they almost always do.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

there is the theory of the mobius...where time becomes a loop...where time becomes a loop...where tiiiiimmmmmeeeee beecomeeessssa looooooooooppppp....

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

nate do the college djs up there mispronounce 90% of the names when they read the news?

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

wow 8 x-posts in the 30 seconds it took to compose my post. clearly this is a lightning rod issue.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

On weekends they get this dude Mark Wheat who's from the UK and seems pretty with-it and cool. So there's that. Also the dudes on Cosmic Slop ("forgotten pop of the '70s") really have their DJ chops down.

Another band that sounds kinda like the Breeders! Maybe this is the Breeders.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

xp blount: they read it in a halting monotonous fashion that seems not unlike a hungover 16 year-old Paul Harvey

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Broheems, which stations are you talking about? I like both WLUW and WNUR; live too far north to hear WHPK.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

This all sounds a bit like John Peel to be honest.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean in 2003 you'd think pronouncing 'joe lieberman' or 'saddam hussein' correctly wouldn't be too tough a task for a college student but, judging from this morning, nope, apparently tis (and it would help if the dj actually seemed to recognize the name, like maybe he'd heard them somewhere before)

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

haha i annoy the shit out of my friends with my killer mark wheat impression

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

joe lieberman produced that wrens lp

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

YAY, THE STROKES

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Re mispronunciations, it's all too true, sadly.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Saddam Hussein? Didn't he guest on a Planes Mistaken For Stars split 7"?


obvious joke xpost shocker

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

g--ff, I DEMAND that we organize a Twin Cities FAP solely for the purpose of getting to hear the Wheat voice

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

haha planes mistaken for stars! tico you old indie softie you

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh, I that last record was by, uh, I forget--Mark hand me that record. . . Is it already put back? Okay, well next up is uhm, it's on this new label. . . and--hey, what track do we have up next?!--Okay this is. . .

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

(Strokes song BTW: "You Talk Way Too Much"! self-effacing DJ irony?)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

haha RS what college stations do you listen to in Philly? i only get west chester u out here obv and it's all jam bands.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, play four songs in a row so we forget which song we really wanted to know the name o-- what the fuck? RIOT GRRL STUFF! They sing "WE'RE GOIN' TO HELL" so I instantly love it.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I almost wrote flexi but they don't exist any more. Tim H knows the person who made the last ever flexi in Britain and you can't get much more indie than that.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

One of the guys on Radio K's Beatbox rap show has a deep, Barry White kinda voice thing going, he's pretty good. Also, I've always found that the goth guys who do The Descent elecktro/goth/industrial show are oddly charming and sometimes funny.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Excuse me, but my Mark Wheat impression is second to none. "Let's hope Belle and Se-bas-tian tour the states soon. They might just win us all over."

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

WNUR and WHPK. I mean, I've been listening to WHPK ever since I moved hear, and I would say about 80% of my listening has been shaped by it. There has been some incredible programming over the years: the Field Marshall's dancehall show on Fridays, Arkansas Red's blues shows on Saturday's, Rick W0jcik's (one of the guys who founded DustyGroove.com) dusties show on Thursday nights, J.P. Chill's (the other guy who founded DustyGroove.com) rap show on Friday nights, John Corbett's (best music writer around) 'Radio Dada' program on Tuesday nights....

WNUR is pretty rad too. Their jazz programming is definitely better than WHPK's/

So yeah, my experience with college radio has pretty much totally kicked ass. Maybe jess was forced to listen to Olympia Community College's "Kill Rock Stars Hour" or something, in which case I can see where his frustration might originate..

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

hey i got nothin but time over january but i'm in finals at mo, much like radio k staffers (mostly poli sci majors it seems)

xpost ha i was waiting for you two to show up

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

It was on Mark Wheat's show where I learned that Luna's Britta Phillips sang as JEM! She is Truly Outrageous!

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

16 x-posts that time. This is a hot button!

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

haha yeah i do think about four months ago i would have had you all beat.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i heart mark wheat. he has a great Alex-in-NYC's Killing Joke obsession type way of bringing up Maahk E. Smith and The Fall all the time.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

after all evergreen's college radio station gave you bruce pavitt, calvin johnson, and all the other people i blame for making the 90s suck in america.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Last three tracks, last track backwards: Katastrophy Wife, Strokes, Luke's Angels (?). Decent enough.

DJ: "thanks to technical difficulties, I was unable to play the 'K'" (the bumper sound that, when heard, is supposed to get people to call to win things)

MARK FARINA? OH DAMN

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, though I don't think college radio is some monolithic thing if you look at the music that gets played. In Philadelphia, WXPN != WRTI != WKDU. (Did I do that right?) One of the nice things about college radio is just how much it can vary from station to station, show to show, and sometimes semester to semester.

I like some of Princeton's programming a lot, when I can get it in. I could do with less classical and jazz during the day, but it's hard to grudge that since there isn't much around for those who want to listen to it.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

AND THEY PLAY THE FIRST TWO SECONDS OF AN AD SPOT OVER THE INTRO BY MISTAKE! hahahaha

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"Chuck and Judy Odegard's real est-~~~~~"

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah Jess, can you get PRB out there?

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i heart mark wheat. he has a great Alex-in-NYC's Killing Joke obsession type way of bringing up Maahk E. Smith and The Fall all the time.

Oh man he would lurve it here! Think he googles his name?

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

you mixed up the B and the R there, keith.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

They need to make novelty beer-holding caps that are Pabst Blue Ribbon trucker hats

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

needless to say this Mark Farina track is the best thing they've played all hour

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i always found it odd that no one in olympia drank olympia beer

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(though sometimes I wonder if "extended house 12"" is their way of saying "DJ needs to pee")

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I just tuned into WLUW (Loyola U.) online. They just segued from Gorky's Zygotic Minci into Prefuse 73.

You know, I guess I should be appreciative that college radio DJs do say what the songs are, but when they're back-announcing the last 10 tracks they played and mentioning the song, the album, AND the label all in the same monotone, it gets tiresome.

Now: new DJ. "I'm gonna play some songs for ya..."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't listen that much any more. WPRB (Princeton) is my favorite now, but I can only get it in sometimes. I like have they have the sort of earnest educational specials on the Boredoms or on the history of funk, the way WXPN used to do.

WKDU has always tended to be about the hardest, maybe ugliest, sounding alternative stuff; so in the 80's it was dominated by hardcore punk, and when techno was newer, it was dominated by that. It tends to get into a narrow sort of range of music, even though some DJs will come and go who play a more interesting mix.

WXPN has become too singer-songwriter/standard NPR 30ish oriented for me. It plays some good things, but the overall mix bores me. 20 years ago (!) it was awesome though.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

ha i thought you mean the guy from karate, nate.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Also college radio rules aren't all the same. It's really "college-sponsored radio," not necessarily radio run entirely by college students. WXPN has never (since I've been listening) limited its deejay pool to students, but I think WKDU has.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

making fun of radio k is easy, but I have heard some good stuff there that I would not have heard otherwise.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

No argument there.

Oh hey, they still have those "Music Fundamental" segments where they teach college kids about older rock groups AND TODAY'S LESSON: BLACK MOTHERFUCKING SABBATH!

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

standard NPR 30ish oriented

This is sort of my demographic, of course, but my taste doesn't quite match it. (I never like it when other people use NPR in this offhand way, and yet I am doing it, because I think everyone knows what it means.)

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"an uncompromising sound that was soon named... heavy metal." imagine that said in a monotone Midwestern college-dude voice.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"Sabbath... Bloody Sabbath,... and Sab-o-tahggge..."

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

We've got some WPRB deejays here don't we? I forget who they are.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Rockist, I read that as "Also, college radio rules."

I'll second you on WPRB. Between that and the Record Exchange, I was more overprivileged musically than I realized at the time.

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

is "Iommi" pronounced "I owe me"?

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

the great thing about a lot of college radio stations is sometimes they'll go off the air and the deejay won't notice for awhile and you can get like 5 minutes of beautiful silence.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

AND TODAY'S LESSON: BLACK MOTHERFUCKING SABBATH!

Hey, if our public school system isn't doing it's job, somebody has to!

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

they better play something besides "Paranoid" or "Iron Man"

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

duh, "War Pigs"

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Laguna Sunrise here wee come!

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yay, "The Wizard"!

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah when i moved here at 19 it was all lifter puller, plastic cons, and astronaut wife (ok and moby, and the soft bulletin, etc etc) not bad!

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't even suggest making me comment about "college" station KEXP in Seattle. I think the only reason I keep it as my clock-radio preset is because it often fills me with enough annoyance and rage to effectively wake me up. Hmmmm, will it be more modern Pixies worship bands this morning? Or maybe we'll play all the go-nowhere 1996 era electronica acts that had the flashy 8x10s in their press packs. Or the same Public Enemy or Blackalicious or Spearhead songs I played two weeks ago? No no no, let's go with sentimental bedhead shaggy boy solo strum-along woe-is-me dudes today. And here is some inaccurate weather info for the day. DON'T FORGET TO PLEDGE TO US TO KEEP MUSIC REAL AND RETAIN INTEGRITY IN THIS FORMAT UNDER ATTACK BY CORPORATE AMERICA!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Has Iceland been moved to the Far East?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I love that didacticism.

[Long pause] . . . Today, we've been listening to music from the valley of Ladak. . .

Maybe I should make Tom a mix tape (if I can get it to work) from the stuff I taped off college radio long ago, along with the deejay's talking (since I often didn't catch the tape in time to turn it off or couldn't be bothered).

"Another example of the literary influences on the Velvet Underground, and of course, Delmore Schwartz. . ."

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

(Radio K used to frequently play Dr. Israel's version of this which was kinda jungly and replaced most of the references to 'magic' with references to 'ganja')

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Just now: "That was Plaid, folks, with the 4th track ... (rustles) ... 7th, 6th ... from their album Spokes."

I wish there were more music-education segments like that on Chicago stations. WNUR does an "8 o'clock break," where they devote a whole hour to a single artist, but I'm never listening to the radio at night unless I'm driving.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

i think that summer was when X00% dynamite came out... i heard uptown top ranking at least twice a day for like six weeks

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll grant that KEXP does play some decent music in the more off-hours, but fuck, the morning weekday DJ is like an early 90s college radio DJ who was criogenically preserved for a decade, then thawed out and given a crash course in Morning DJ Dork-Out 101.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll second you on WPRB. Between that and the Record Exchange, I was more overprivileged musically than I realized at the time.

mmmmmmm princeton record exchange

bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it's impossible not to play "uptown top ranking" that much for the first six weeks after you hear it for the first time.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I was gonna mention how great Radio K was in '99 and then my system froze

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

hey no complaints! you could walk into any coffee shop all 'nah pop nah STAAAAAILE' and the sun shone and i was young blah blah

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i have those memories too except they involve ja rule. wait...

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

OH CHRIST

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to be on Radio K 12/25 with Kate Silver, who also posts here! Tune in!

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't get the stream working again, and I can't stand to listen to this on the radio because it's AM and my reception is crap

xp matos: Holy shit! Best Christmas present ever!

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, the first Stuck on AM comp had a GREAT Atmosphere track ("Abusing of the Rib")

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha g--ff, EVERYONE IN MINNEAPOLIS does a killer Mahk Whayt impersonation)

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://radiok.cce.umn.edu/radiok/stuckonam/volume4/cover.gif

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i am speechless.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i have nothing but good things to say about WKDU. and DUTV for that matter. always a great metal show on kdu. astrocade seth's noise show was always good. the weird thing about drexel is that they had alumni deejaying for years.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

gobble gobble

still no stream. What the fuck?

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, time to wrangle my clock radio into duty

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

this will no doubt sound lame, but I do have a big soft spot for Radio K's pretty consistent pumping of local artists. They were nice enough to play my old band a few times, as well as other bands I like, and it is helpful for the local "scene" as it were. Obv. those listening on the Internet could prob give two shits about it, and I could see where the quality of local stuff isn't equal to other stuff they could be playing at the time, but it does serve a purpose I think.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry guys, but I can probably do the best Wheat because I've spent more time with the man than anyone else. I'll stake my claim there.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh hell, they're playing the Stills. I have a few things to say about them.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I have the feeling it will be very hard (k-hard? har har) to get into the Music Lover's Club now

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, so how many of you have been college radio DJs?

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

not me.

(nate quit playa hating the stills -- you just jealous!)

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

They DO take requests:
1.800.626.4770
requests@radiok.org

(no pranks pls)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

too late!

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, we are being kinda harsh on the DJs. The one right now seems to have her shit together though.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't hate the player, I hate the game

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never gone to college and ergo never became a college-radio DJ. I really really really want to do it, though. maybe I'll go to college someday just so I can DJ.

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Nate, I tried to check out Radio K -- it's one of the presets on the iTunes Radio Tuner -- but was unsuccessful. WLUW just played Beth Orton followed by Brainiac.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

surely anyone can haltingly introduce obscure records with the wonders of web broadacasting?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I went to the U of M for six years! I didn't get to DJ or get a diploma!

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I had dreams every so often of elbowing my way onto WMCN's roster (WMCN = Macalester college radio, has a broadcast radius of about nine blocks of St. Paul) and doing that whole "hardcore punk -> ABBA" thing

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

It should be noted that WMCN's DJs make Radio K's sound like Wolfman Jack

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

And they are allowed to write their own program descriptions for some incomprehensible reason

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

haha I'm not a very halting on-air personality, Jess! I've done radio numerous times--my friend Eric has a show on KFAI, a community station in Mpls--just not on my own, which I'd like to do.

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

my friend had a country show on WMCN. I got to say something on the air once (I was drunk at the time).

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"It's all music, man. What kind of music don't we like? Just bad music!"

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

College radio station DJ roll call

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"(except of course any of that COMMERCIAL POP SHIT [[twitch, twitch]])"

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"(...from America--England is fair game, and so is Sweden < /Radio K c. 1997>)"

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

"Are you tired of the phrase, “thug luv”? Does Hip-Hop mean more to you than being “in da club”? Answer: my show!"

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hip Hop 101"!!!!!!!

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I don't know what Radio K is playing right now, but it's kinda pretty and sad and it's called "Jesus the Mexican Boy". I suppose if one is not in the mood for superdowntempo acoustic-guitar Low-style stuff it's kinda lame, but enh.

Now watch as they play some rowdy hardcore yellfest immediately afterwards

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, i have no real problem with college radio, as i said to tom yesterday. "they're only harming themselves." i just find the format hard to listen to for a long time for the same reason as cable access. this is probably just me being "too easily spoon fed commercial media for long to handle some ruffage".

(nb: the collge radio discussion came up because tom confessed that the big secret of uk pirate radio is that it's 75% adverts and dj babble.)

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I was close: nu-garage fuzzblast sleazeomatiXXX (sung by a nasal southern muppet)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

but it's SUBCULTURAL DJ babble! < /Simon R> [oh he's gonna kill me now...]

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

(well maybe not Southern, but with an odd twang of some sort)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

My college radio station was a joke. Legend had it that in the 60s some student rigged some wires (?) to the train tracks so that the station could be heard anywhere in the U.S. that was connected to that Amtrak line (NB: I don't know whether this is actually possible) -- and once the prankster was caught, the FCC revoked the school's license, leaving us with a broadcast radius that extended no further than campus. Every year, it was the same: freshmen showed up, got excited about having their very own radio show, made xerox-collage ads to place on the tables in the cafeteria, then slowly realized that NOBODY EVER LISTENED OR CARED. After the fall quarter, the station was pretty much dead for the rest of the year.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Nate -- "Jesus the Mexican Boy" is by Iron & Wine, from a new EP.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

was it an AM station?

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

kthx

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't really listen to this anymore. I gotta do laundry.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

fiddo, I agree with you about the indie snobbery of college radio but I look at it like this....Say you believe that, say, Get Low is an important song right now...more important than the new Iron and Wine song which is getting played on college radio....the thing is, in my city at least the local rap station plays Get Low all the time, so even if the college station played it it would only be giving me another chance to hear it with a crappy signal....i mean, at least it gets more variety of music out there on the airwave, whether or not its the absolute best music or not...

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

although it is annoyning the way they are constantly patting themselves on the back.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

was it an AM station?

Nope, it was FM.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Matos, I don't have the definite word yet, though I mentioned it to Mark again and he was all over it. Speaking of whom, Scholtes is going to be on his Sunday show on the 21st.

I should also mention that I love Mark because he's one of the other big David Gedge fans at the station.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

or speaking of which...my grammar's a lttle fucked up today. It's a good thing I'm not on the radio!

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I still like it better than commercial radio. And plenty of those deejays are annoying in a different way.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

In fact WXPN now has all these deejays with PERSONALITY and it's really appalling.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it would only be 99.9% impossible if it were AM (also if it worked it would electrocute anyone who touched the tracks), it wouldn't work at all if it were FM, but I don't know tons about stuff like that. It's a funny story though.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, WRTI has "El Viaje" which is the only time you get salsa on FM radio in Philadelphia, and it's a pretty good show. The DJ has the annoying habit of playing one of the lengthy show IDs about 25 times during a three hour show though. Sometimes I turn it off because I get so annoyed with that. It's not as though he doesn't have lots of music to play, because I know he does. Why does he feel he needs to keep throwing on that ID? Also, after all these years of deejaying, his transitions are often clumsy. But he sometimes builds up a really nice momentum, lets you get into a groove for a while. I could do without so much charanga (old style Cuban violin and flute orchestra).

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

b-b-but I like the college station here :(

It's the only time I've heard Peter Murphy, Mission of Burma, MBV, etc. on the radio.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I know that nobody cares about this, so just skip over it.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes college radio really makes me happy, like Lex Vegas' Sunday lineup of bluegrass noon-3, a variety of world music 3-6, then reggae/dancehall 6-9, or that moment on Thursday nights when the Indian show oh so smoothly transitions into the hip-hop show.

Also: NO. COMMERCIALS.

(nickalicious), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Keep in mind too, you Brits, that much of your pop only gets played on college radio here in the U.S.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

the day i hear girls aloud on college radio is the day i start listening to alot more college radio

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, it's more like British indie -- "indie" in the UK sense.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

(Obviously, right, cuz I said "British indie.")

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

My college station only broadcast through a cable network of the dorms. And even then you needed a special adapter to listen to it on your stereo. It was the ultimate exercise in futility. We would just go in and make mix tapes using their record collection every week, occasionally offering "$500 cash to the first caller" or something just to assure ourselves that yes, no one is out there listing to us.

BrianB (BrianB), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

One of the guys on Radio K's Beatbox rap show has a deep, Barry White kinda voice thing going, he's pretty good

thats jay bee, he used to live in milwuakee and have a show on the college station here. the white barry white.

juiceboxxx (juiceboxxx), Friday, 12 December 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I college DJed for a couple of years at KZSU. Good times. I'm listening to WFMU right now and they're playing some pleasantly wacky garage rock.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 12 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The amateurishness of the DJs is definitely frustrating after a while... it's like, at least try, dudes! You'd think these people had no personality! (Umm, best not to follow that one...) Seriously though, I enjoy doing and listening to college radio when it's done with some semblance of professionalism. It's not like you're giving in to The Man by sounding good, confident, clear, and interesting on the air! I try to avoid playing only super-obscure stuff, too, and to mix up my show enough to keep people on their toes. Too little college radio is *actually* unpredictable and invigorating.

Clarke B., Friday, 12 December 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I always forget Radio K exists! I actually find their DJs charming and coy, but the music just, like, sucks. I'm not sure I've ever heard a good song on there; maybe Fannypack once? They may have ironically/accidentally played something good while I was listening a couple times. Woah, I just realized the chances of hearing a song I like are greater on 93X than Radio K!(!)

But the DJs are okay. I can relate to them, to their shortcomings and insecurities. I feel about the DJs on Radio K the way those DJs probably feel about that kind of music that they always play that sounds to me like emo but is actually probably considered more mature and stuff by the people that listen to that sort of thing.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 12 December 2003 09:08 (twenty-two years ago)

PS: My DJ love does not extend to this Mark Wheat character! He is always far, far too happy and self-important about being so involved in the Twin Cities scene such-as-it-is. I've maybe listened to this person for maybe ten minutes total ever and I swear I've already heard two distinct "hanging out with a member of the Replacements" stories.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 12 December 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

If I was a moderator I could go back in time and take out a "maybe". That'd be swell.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 12 December 2003 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, I just totally changed my mind. Radio K's okay, including that english guy. I'm mostly pissed at whatever really odd regulation makes them go off the air at sunset which is like 3:30pm in the winter, which basically means my awake time and their on-air time coincide by like 3 hours. I guess there's the internet but what about the car?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 12 December 2003 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that's the rules of the FCC license they have...it has to go off by sundown, whenever that is....they play some message about the FCC usually when they go off the air.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

You are correct (though the station does broadcast until 8 AM the following day at FM 106.5 but the signal is pretty weak). I think the earliest sign-off is 4:30 PM and the latest is 9 PM. Shoutcast sounds great, like FM.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved doing uni radio up until my final year when I did shows that were me and 2-3 chinstroking dance fan friends in a small room. And my other mates had stopped tuning/couldn't tune in. And we were given shitty, non-fun times.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 12 December 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It's hard work when you're putting together a specialty program. Takes a lot of dedication and planning.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Friday, 12 December 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Personally, for the sake of hearing the MUSIC being played on college radio (as opposed to the other stations on the air [classic rock, soft "rock", "hip-hop" {possibly 1 song with actual rapping every 3 hours or so}, more classic rock, twenty zillion stations of modern "country", howard stern show, random doofuses cracking lame-ass dick jokes, etc]), the mushmouthed lethargy of the DJs is quite easily stomachable, and even at times *gasp* endearing.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 12 December 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

WKDU is playing some sort of angular punk funk.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Saturday, 13 December 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

it's hip i hear

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 13 December 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay now they are playing something else sort of similar. It's familiar, but I don't know what it is. I probably haven't heard it since 1983.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Saturday, 13 December 2003 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
I'm listening to a bunch of jazzy electronic trancey hip-hopified dance stuff on WKDU and I HATE it. (This one is not so bad.)

Let's hear what that was: Tikee Ottmar (?) ("What did I play before that? What did I do with that?"--she actually said that almost verbatim.)

Krduer & Dorfmeister. No wonder I hated it.

Charlie Parker Bird Remixed Project produced by Dan the Automator.

Wanobo (?) "Flutter"

Upcoming shows: Government Cheese, The Tighties, Head-on, Canadian Invasion, One-Star Hotel, The Thrills, Thirteen Even, Bonk, etc.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(I like this thread.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's Tiki Obar (I think they are some high school kids from the Minneapolis area....or something like that maybe one kid)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Obmar.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Charlie Parker Bird Remixed Project produced by Dan the Automator.

Was this any good, Rockist?!

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I think I liked that (the Charlie Parker remixed thing) the best of what I heard.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)

It wasn't on for very long though. Maybe it's just a short track.

I think they are some high school kids

Now I feel bad. (Not really.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Between recent experiences with Reed grads and that Macalester link up there, I'm so thankful I didn't go to a liberal arts college. I don't think "the hippie was annoying me" is a valid defense for homicide.

TCU's college station is weak - most of the day it's classical, drivetime is "greatest hits of the '50s-90s," a couple of other shows throughout the week, one decent hip-hop show Sat. nights, and one indie-rockish program on Sunday nights. Oh, and a three-hour weekend call-in show that's all about comic books. Nerdiest thing ever.

UNT's college station is all-jazz all of the time, great except for when they dip into the smooth/lite jazz bin.

And my former/current/future alma mater, UTA, doesn't even have a real radio station, only an Internet broadcasting thing.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

KUNM last night ("Music to Sooth the Savage Beast"):

Boredoms (good start)
Robert Pollard and His Soft Rock Renegades
Beavis Frond (the DJ says this was recorded in somebody’s bedroom in 1988—well it sounds like it)
Rain Parade

Last three all sucked.

Then I decided to write descriptions before the DJ announced what had been played.

Something or other 500: something that sounds like Neil Young and sucks

Neu – Negativland: shitty neo-motorik thing

New Poc (sp?) [Monopause doing Thai covers] – Cheer: some insane cheesy Asian ska thing (okay this is actually pretty good compared to everything else)

Red Crayola – Born in Flames: less than technically competent female singer with primitive beats, kind of post-punk, sounds upset about things, not so bad I guess

Pram: funky beat/space sounds/Enja? gentle female vocals, vaguely folkish maybe, but just the vocals—there’s something to be said for people who can write songs (this is not an example)

*

Harmonia: Blippy, coiling and uncoiling sounds. Maybe more Krautrock? Kind of reminds me of Agitation Free or something. Wait, why was it suddenly cut off? Okay was that a radical edit on the album or was there a problem in the radio studio? Adequate background music. A little long to actually just listen to. Time for a new idea. Even Fuck Buttons is better than this. Michael Rother? [Yes, DJ, we did notice that was a “double dose.”]

[I missed the band name] - TBI: Screamin’ primitive punk. Well okay. I don’t like it, but it’s a needed change of pace. “She got a PBI on me” is that what he’s singing? Is that some kind of police code? Guitar sounds pretty good. It is not the convention to enunciate clearly in this music.

Velvet Underground – Rock and Roll [still not sure if this is the one from Loaded or what but I think that’s what he said, so I would have heard it before]: Is this the Velvet Underground “Rock and Roll”? Well that is Lou Reed, so it’s either Lou Reed or the Velvet Underground. I think this is probably Lou Reed, because I don’t recognize it and it doesn’t really sound like the Velvet Underground. Uh oh, I shouldn’t have said that because it probably is and I probably have a copy of it. But I’m sticking with guessing it’s Lou Reed. I do think this is a good song. No I’m not gonna listen to you now.

Roxy Music: Wait I know this. Roxy Music. I was thinking of requesting them. Or is this solo Bryan Ferry? I think Roxy Music yeah, I will know in a second and feel dumb. I mean, I never claimed to know them inside out at all. This show plays more older music than I had expected, which is okay, except I’m trying to find new rock music which I might actually like. Oh this is that I would do anything song, right? I don’t even know the proper name. “I would climb mountaAAAIIIIIIns. . .” Can’t argue with this one. I actually thought this was the Beatles when I heard the first couple notes, just for a brief moment.

*

Budgie (&?): Rock and roll guitar. Promising beginning. Power chord. Hey it’s a female vocalist. I don’t know who this is but I bet Chuck Eddy would know.

Brooding acoustic guitar. Another female vocalist. I don’t know who this is, but I like it. Could be old, could be new, could be an old singer doing something new. Surprise! It’s still the same song as above. I think I like this. Too bad I can’t play it as loudly as it should be played at the moment.

Pilon – Working is No Problem: Thump thump thump thump thump thump. Guitars. Scrapey guitar sounds. Female vocalist. Broadly punk, though not strictly. Might be one of those riot grrrl groups I mostly never really heard, but it could also be something I probably should know from the 80s or something that I probably shouldn’t know from the past few years. (This show does cover a pretty broad range of rock at least. Doesn’t seem like there’s that much they are afraid to touch, at least from the relatively alternative side of things.)

Thinking Fellers Union – Cup of Dreams: Distortotronic sound. Keyboard. Stops completely. Straight guitars. I like how this song keeps moving from one distinct part to another. Now vocals join band. Weird group vocals distorted. Is this one of those bands with “Bear” in the name? This is okay. Maybe this is Panda Bear? (I’ve never actually heard a whole album by them.) Maybe my defenses are lowering because I am getting sleepy, but I kind of like this. Okay this part is a little too ironically whimsical. But overall, the construction of the song (I should probably say track) is interesting.

Soft Boys - Insanely Jealous: Lots of words. Lots of words. Fast paced delivery. Uhm. “I’m insanely jealous of you” gets repeated a lot. I don’t like this.

Super Furry Animals: Very electronic but sort of organic sounding too and now a harmonium or accordion, unexpectedly. Old timey. Not bad, we’ll see what happens with the vocals. Americana. I don’t really hate it, but don’t like it so much. The chorus is kind of nice in an old 70s way, almost CSNY, but there are probably closer models. But it’s you know it’s just kind of alright.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 18:02 (seventeen years ago)

Neu – Negativland: shitty neo-motorik thing

^^^ ban

and what, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

dude hates neu & mystikal what else do yall need

and what, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

[I missed the band name] - TBI: Screamin’ primitive punk. Well okay. I don’t like it, but it’s a needed change of pace. “She got a PBI on me” is that what he’s singing? Is that some kind of police code? Guitar sounds pretty good. It is not the convention to enunciate clearly in this music.

I hope this is a joke.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

dude hates neu & mystikal what else do yall need

Yup. I stand by both of those hates. I don't think this is the first time I mistook Neu for a third-rate Neu imitation. It's pretty hard to tell the difference.

I hope this is a joke.

An overly strained attempt at one, yes.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 18:24 (seventeen years ago)


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