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I was just wandering what you there in the UK know about brazilian music i guess its not much but im curious about it

victor campos, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Most of it sounds very Beck-influenced

dave q, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

to see what people here said previously, try here

also, on caetano veloso

and tom ze

gareth, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My guess is that most people here are fairly familiar with Brazilian music of 1960-1975 -- bossa nova and Tropicalia in particular. But I get the feeling you mean modern Brazilian music, right?

In which case ... I sure don't know much. Don't know about everyone else, though.

Nitsuh, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a Brazilophile, having spent some time in your lovely country. I'm particularly into mangue (mangrove) beat and northeast rythms in general. As for MPB, I love Milton, Caetano, Arto, Chico, Tom ze, Clara Nunes. I'm currently getting into the 70s funk thing, eg Jorge Ben, Trio Mocoto etc. Also, I've just heard some Nelson Cavaquinho and Carlos Cachaca and am well impressed.

Daniel, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the blue brazil series on blue note really opened my eyes to brazilian music, Joyce, Milton banana trio, etc.. etc.. very good introduction to brazilian jazz music anyway...

jk, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Years ago I worked with a bunch of Brazilian fellows, and they were a sweet bunch of guys. But what really stuck with me is that I asked one of them what it's like there, and he was saying how nice and friendly it was, and that there was dancing in the streets. Dancing in the streets! This concept is so foreign to me Brazil almost seems like a different planet. It's actually a pleasant reminder that not everyone lives the same way you do, and that other ways may well be better.

Sean, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six years pass...

anyone know anything about the 60s/70s era musician Tuca? She was a guitarist largely responsible for the sound of 2 of my top 10 all-time favorite records, Nara Leao's DEZ ANOS DEPOIS & Francoise Hardy's LA QUESTION. She apparently recorded 3 albums under her own name, I don't think they have been released on cd. Anyone have these?

gershy, Saturday, 19 April 2008 04:13 (eighteen years ago)

TS: Laura Nyro vs. Nara Leao

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 19 April 2008 04:32 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

A seemingly exhaustive intro to everything Joao Donato:

http://www.bjbear71.com/Donato/joao.html#Index

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

The woman who put that together is a trip. Check out the rest of her site- has the same for a bunch of arrangers and composers. Including like a dozen poems she wrote for Claus Ogerman

Bangelo, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

Also about two years late but Tuca's "Dracula I Love You" is very good

Bangelo, Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

; )

What do you do when there's a user with, like, sixty of 'em? (velko), Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

Nice website and the links too.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 May 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

I'm partial to Lula Cortes & Ze Ramalho' Paebiru, and the Satwa disc. The 1st 2 Gal Costa records are excellent. Caetano Veloso is consistently pretty interesting but he waxes a bit loungy for me at times, hence my preference for his 1st couple of records & Azul (I think that was the name). Those at least sound like the punch in the lounge was dosed with ayahuasca.

ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

The separate Veloso c or d thread has me wanting to obtain numerous albums of his.

Caetano Veloso S and D

The bossa thread has numerous items I should get too. bossa nova: S&D

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

veloso's '69 self-titled is great, the a-side is perfect. "the empty boat" was the track that really got me into tropicalia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjNanbciqSE

(e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

currently listening to fairly cheeseball sub-Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 reissue of an album by D'Angelo (no, not that D'Angelo) - pretty fun and campy. includes a bunch of early Tim Maia covers.

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Ej6UvAmEU

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

you can hear a mixture of stuff here - http://bmabrazil.bandcamp.com/

DavidBrazil, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

ten months pass...

I just had a dream, not long before waking up, that I was reading a Nabisco post in which he mentioned the fact that there was a year when the only instrument used in Brazilian music was the theremin. (I don't think it was said explicitly in the post, but I understood this to be the result of some weird government censorship.)

Read ILM less and I end up dreaming about it. :(

Khalifa Hilter (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 14 April 2011 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

New Maria Rita. Warning: turn up your volume, this first one is very quiet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB8PUvKUdaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_gI8tfXrII

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder how popular she is in Brazil?

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

Pretty sure she is quite popular.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks. Not that it matters, I like her anyway, but I was just curious whether her style still reached a large audience there.

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

Actually, looking at the Brazilian sales figures for her albums on Wikipedia, she doesn't sell very big. She could still be big, but possibly she is a lot less popular than I thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Rita#Discography

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

My late Summer love of 2011 was Burnier e Cartier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XF5jW8p7Qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMN5MghZwk

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 21 October 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

five months pass...

Come learn the 4 most popular Brazilian dances in fun 3 sessions; Zouk, Samba de gafieira and Forro, and Samba no pe!

email from a meetup group I joined, but alas my schedule won't work for these series of lessons

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:44 (fourteen years ago)

Zouk?

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 April 2012 01:11 (fourteen years ago)

Has it moved from the Caribbean to Brazil?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

Can I pop into this thread to note what a fantastic album the late Suba's Sao Paulo Confessions (2000) is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJGQGsY6p_g

Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:53 (fourteen years ago)

Has it moved from the Caribbean to Brazil?

Apparently. Look up Zouk-Lambada in Wikipedia

zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

Interesting.

Regarding Papa Wheelie's fave from last year that I forgot to look into. Need to check later and see if on Spotify

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Burnier-e-Cartier-LP-1976-Folk-Psych-Brazil-Rare-HEAR-/380320469777

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://soundcloud.com/bm-a/sets/the-new-brazilian-music-vol-4

This is popular with European whirled music djs

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 03:21 (fourteen years ago)

I like it too

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 03:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.whatslater.com/

a fair amount of Brazilian music coverage on this guy's blog of his writing

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

MAGA BO - QUILOMBO DO FUTURO

and a remixed version out. He's an American who moved to Brazil. Haven't listened yet but the press release claims

The original tracks united the organic subtleties of the Afro-Brazilian rhythms coco, maculelê, samba, gong and capoeira with the punchy, powerful, electronic based sounds of dub, raga, hip hop and dubstep. Batucada and bass, mids, treble. TUDO. The remixes take the tracks even further….

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

The wonderful Choro das 3 is finishing up a US tour with some shows in NYC, especially on at Barbes next Thursday: http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?95822-Choro-das-Tres-US-tour-May-July-2013

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 July 2013 14:30 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

This festival going on right now for a few more days: http://www.ny.savassifestival.com.br/

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)

http://cinemaguild.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TCGS&Product_Code=2458

But have you seen the recent Gilberto Gil movie doc Viramundo?

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:19 (twelve years ago)

anyone know anything about the 60s/70s era musician Tuca? She was a guitarist largely responsible for the sound of 2 of my top 10 all-time favorite records, Nara Leao's DEZ ANOS DEPOIS & Francoise Hardy's LA QUESTION. She apparently recorded 3 albums under her own name, I don't think they have been released on cd. Anyone have these?

― gershy, Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:13 AM (5 years ago)

gershy, are you me? I have 2 of the Tuca LPs: Meu Eu and Dracula, I Love You
don't love them as much as the Leao and (especially) Hardy LPs, but there's something about her: like people you meet with the same birthday as you. plus I play Villa-Lobos -influenced acoustic guitar. Dracula... has a lot of personality.

Paul, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)

But have you seen the recent Gilberto Gil movie doc Viramundo?
Nope, but I did see it mentioned on the Tom Jobim thread, I believe.

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:48 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

I forget on what thread we were discussing books about Brazilian music, but I just saw mention of this recent effort:

Ickes, Scott. 2013. Afro-Brazilian Culture and
Regional Identity in Bahia, Brazil. Gainesville: University Press of
Florida.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 15:16 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

Can I pop into this thread to note what a fantastic album the late Suba's Sao Paulo Confessions (2000) is?

http://www.youtube.com/v/TJGQGsY6p_g&fs=1&hl=en

― Sanpaku, Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:53 PM (2 years ago Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, it's good for late at night or like, early in the morning if it's raining.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 10:36 (twelve years ago)

A very wet album.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:50 (twelve years ago)

I wish I hadn't taken so long to find out about this! It would have fit in well with the DJ Food and Amon Tobin I was listening to at the time it came out.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 21:07 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_0WAFu7IQ

I'm in love with this. Sort of a lost Brazilian freak folk album. Backstory: both girls shared a farm with a photographer and had kids with him (!)

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:37 (eleven years ago)

Modern Brazil - s/d

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:50 (eleven years ago)

It's not 'modern'. 1979 record

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 04:02 (eleven years ago)

That was just a reminder to myself regarding that other Brazilian music thread

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 14:23 (eleven years ago)

Thanks for the tip, tracking that LP down

Brakhage, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:10 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

This summer, in a couple of weeks, Tom Ze, Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso will play in Copenhagen. Completely insane.

Frederik B, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:14 (eleven years ago)

Enjoy. Have seen Gil and Veloso in recent years and thought both put on great shows (although a friend thinks their voices have deteriorated)

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:49 (eleven years ago)

http://samba.afropop.org/

intended for school kids and life-long learners they say

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 February 2015 19:10 (eleven years ago)

For extra bonus Gil and Veloso will perform together! And for extra extra bonus, my parents sorta share my obsession with Brazilian music, so they are buying the tickets!

Frederik B, Saturday, 28 February 2015 19:26 (eleven years ago)

five months pass...

http://livestream.com/jazz/Trio-Da-Paz-and-Friends
Right now. Next set starts in about 15 minutes or you can rewind

Exile's Return To Sender (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:16 (ten years ago)

thanks

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:23 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

Any 2015 albums or songs people especially liked?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 December 2015 18:41 (ten years ago)

Haven't really followed along, but Caetano Veloso & Gilberto Gil acoustic was concert of the year for me!

Frederik B, Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:08 (ten years ago)

Rodrigo Campos' Conversas Com Toshiro is a p sweet nu-Tropicalia album with a weird Japanese cinema theme

a cruet of destiny (seandalai), Friday, 4 December 2015 02:36 (ten years ago)

Thanks. I saw Caetano live and Gil live this year too (and they were great), but I am out of touch on new stuff.

curmudgeon, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:10 (ten years ago)

From Ben Ratliff of the NY Times top 10 list for 2015

4. Ava Rocha “Ava Patrya Yndia Yracema” (avarocha.com) The Brazilian singer Ms. Rocha has inherited the aesthetic breadth and playfulness of the late-1960s Tropicalia movement and connects it with new rock, funk, samba, free improvisation, “serious” composition, and noise; few records this year were as deep and fun.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 December 2015 15:40 (ten years ago)

Modern Brazil - s/d

Tell Me About These Musical Acts from Brazil

Other Brazilian music threads

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 December 2015 15:41 (ten years ago)

I want to go there at carnival time...

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:45 (ten years ago)

x-post---Ava Rocha is on Spotify. Am listening now

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 December 2015 13:28 (ten years ago)

From Ben Ratliff of the NY Times top 10 list for 2015

4. Ava Rocha “Ava Patrya Yndia Yracema” (avarocha.com) The Brazilian singer Ms. Rocha has inherited the aesthetic breadth and playfulness of the late-1960s Tropicalia movement and connects it with new rock, funk, samba, free improvisation, “serious” composition, and noise; few records this year were as deep and fun.

I like the trad Brazilian samba aspects but am not so crazy about the occasional yelping vocals, improve and noisy aspects. Caetano Veloso pushed the edge rock-wise a bit on a recent album and tour, and I liked the way he did it better.

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 December 2015 15:28 (ten years ago)

I feel like there was one more Brazilian (non-metal) album getting love somewhere on ilx this year, but can't recall it or remember where I made a note to myself about it...

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 December 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)

six months pass...

Listening to a singer called Geraldo Azevedo right now. His self-titled solo-debut from 1977 is absolutely amazing for fans of the folkier side of mpb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF3-wJJAqI0

Frederik B, Sunday, 10 July 2016 11:34 (nine years ago)

So much mpb I don't know (but I am interested). Will check it out

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 July 2016 14:18 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

This is so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suQXaFFaoyA

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:00 (eight years ago)

eight months pass...

One thing I'm becoming more and more aware of through watching Portuguese-language career recaps of Brazilian artists on YouTube is the emphasis that is put on "shows" - somewhere closer to, like, the West End or Broadway than Rock concerts, often the ppl talking about them even mention who built the sets and who made the clothes etc. This seems to extend to a lot of hip Tropicália artists, too - I think it's interesting because you rarely ever hear that discussed in English takes on those artists.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 November 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)

Which Brazilian artists?

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 November 2018 13:30 (seven years ago)

Well, so far I know Gil Costa and Maria Bethânia did this (the latter once with Chico Buarque, too). Some of the other Tropicália guys too I think but it's difficult to tell because often they just mention a "show" by name and I can't really tell whether that means it's a cabaret-style thing or if it's just that they named a tour or sequence of concerts in the same venue.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:27 (seven years ago)

*Gal Costa, sorry

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:28 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

This is pretty dope, and remarkable that it sounds like a lost fusion record and a modern dance record at the same time, without tipping too far into cheese in either direction
https://ivanconti.bandcamp.com/album/poison-fruit

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 22:19 (six years ago)

nice "disco é cultura" t shirt !!

budo jeru, Thursday, 12 December 2019 04:49 (six years ago)

Modern Brazil - s/d

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:40 (six years ago)

Papisa album Fenda is kinda dreampop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Rix-AvY1Q

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:41 (six years ago)

x-post - oh Ivan Conti --Known by most as one third of Azymuth, his career spans far beyond with over half a century’s worth of recordings with the likes of Milton Nascimento, Deodato, Marcos Valle and Jorge Ben.

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:43 (six years ago)

his first band does a killer rendition of "i want to be your man" from '69

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W5TViSUlJ4

budo jeru, Friday, 13 December 2019 19:07 (six years ago)

one year passes...

I always forget about the Modern Brazil thread.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 January 2021 18:34 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

A vinyl reissue of”Dracúla I Love You” by Tuca, discussed a little upthread, has emerged (seems like it’s unofficial but done with decent production values). I am very pleased to have a copy of this one at last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ZGmDEbvnA

Tim, Sunday, 24 January 2021 10:50 (five years ago)

Tuca shows up a lot in the Françoise Hardy autobio I'm reading, they were besties!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 January 2021 15:30 (five years ago)

Yeah the FH LP that Tuca produced is fantastic.

Tim, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:48 (five years ago)

four weeks pass...

https://brazilbeatblog.wordpress.com/2021/02/15/favorite-brazilian-albums-of-2020/?fbclid=IwAR2RgmndUV6_OrRNlJfpSIlVwB-fWSPS1PVYhLKodT0zx-1VhS-mBrTIolc

A Brazilian top 20 for 2020 with Carne Doce, Flora Matos and others

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 01:59 (five years ago)

A few days ago, Frank Kogan asked for international pop etc. songs from 2008, and I happened to think of Yoñlu, the promising Brazilian teen who suicided in 2006, I think, and a s/t collection came out in '08, reissued by Luaka Bop with a long title, so I quoted to Frank from my Voice round-up of mostly Brazilian LB releases, and he checked it out, said the kid had a "natural gift for melody": indeed, and some compared him to Nick Drake, kinda Velosa at times too, but always with his own bedsit Braziloid 00s cyber-grooves---he and a lot of others are in this archived copy of my Voice original:
https://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2009/07/luaka-being-and-boppingness.html
Also, he later asked about "postpunk reaching out to the world and some of the world reaching back." So I directed him to
Simon Reynolds' Voice coverage of two remarkable Brazilian postpunketc comps, archived here, w some added videos:
http://reynoldsretro.blogspot.com/2020/06/brazilian-nao-wave-and-postpunk.html

dow, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 03:29 (five years ago)

Oh yeah I think Curm linked this juicy trove upthread, one for the headz:
Tell Me About These Musical Acts from Brazil

dow, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 03:49 (five years ago)

Subscribe to these YT channels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TonicoManel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrazilianRa

Thank me later

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 06:26 (five years ago)

Ugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrazilianRa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TonicoManel

There.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 06:28 (five years ago)

Dammit! Nevermind.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 06:28 (five years ago)

two years pass...

Just recently heard about and am listening to a big Brazilian rock act called Os Paralamas do Sucesso. So far liking what I am hearing.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:01 (two years ago)

This one is a real earworm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL1Wy6zbJ2U

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:10 (two years ago)

Maybe other people don’t need rock music in Portuguese from Brazil. Maybe I didn’t know I needed it until now.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:41 (two years ago)

Their reggae/ska stuff is pretty good too.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

Marisa Monte just showed up on one of the reggae tracks! The circle is unbroken.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:05 (two years ago)

The rhythm section even brought their reggae magic to this Jorge Benjor track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQJMKocrELk

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:29 (two years ago)

last night my kid says to me - he's 18 - "i want to play you some songs". and he plays me these!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDfvLzrDBug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk1iTOWzh6c

scott seward, Saturday, 8 July 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

kids today...

he's way into brazil. i must tip my hat to spotify. they do find some pretty obscure nooks and crannies for people to dig into.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 July 2023 20:07 (two years ago)

ed lincoln and milton banana are big names for bossa nova in general.

paralamas has great records and are pretty huge there, yes.
these are my faves, but there's great stuff up in every record up until 2000 I think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selvagem%3F

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severino_(album) <- this one has linton kwesi johnson, tom zé, fito paez and egberto gismonti

one of my fav videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQWR45AhAQw

and the big hit from Selvagem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfi9K97ulmE the high life guitar is <3

fpsa, Sunday, 9 July 2023 04:38 (two years ago)

Trailer for an upcoming animated documentary on Tenório Junior, samba-jazz pianist who died mysteriously:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaY6Wj54Mlw

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 9 July 2023 09:59 (two years ago)

one of my fav videos

Thanks! How about this one, which is kind of similar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc2eNJT6XWc

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

Guess I must have missed them when they performed at Central Park Summerstage in 2010, same as I missed Marisa Monte last Sunday.

https://musicabrasileira.org/os-paralamas-do-sucesso-summerstage/

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 17:42 (two years ago)

Whole thing is here, for now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMoJ_9al3xU

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 17:50 (two years ago)

She shows up after about an hour and a half.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 17:58 (two years ago)

melo do marinheiro is great as well. but what I love about the Novidade clip is the glimpse of working life in Rio, in specific that ferry trip (which I think is the Niterói-Rio ferry). How people react, dance with the band... a rock band was a very novel idea to most people in the 80s. the guy kicking the ferry station in the beginning.

fpsa, Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

Cool.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:13 (two years ago)

My friend who did go to see Marisa Monte and likes Paralamas also told me about a band called something like Os Gitanos or Os Ciganos but I can’t figure out quite what she was talking about.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:15 (two years ago)

Oh, Titans

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

Titãs

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

yeah, the Novidade video is great

a friend emailed me this track a few daya ago asking what i know about the artist (not much, but it's quite a find)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf4EURr-ssQ

last night my kid says to me - he's 18 - "i want to play you some songs". and he plays me these!

sounds like an awesome kid

same as I missed Marisa Monte last Sunday.

!!

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:38 (two years ago)

Surprised that I missed or that you missed?

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:55 (two years ago)

Guess it’s time for me to also investigate Legião Urbana. See also this thread: Sexual Life of the Savage vs. Não Wave

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 19:00 (two years ago)

Also the shorter Nao Wave - Brazilian Post Punk

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 19:02 (two years ago)

surprised i didn't know about it, but then i haven't been paying much attention.

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 9 July 2023 19:09 (two years ago)

I hear you.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 19:13 (two years ago)

Feel like there should be some sort of alarm whenever she comes up here.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 19:14 (two years ago)

One year I saw a million posters ahead of time so had ample time to buy a Beacon Theater ticket.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 19:21 (two years ago)

i can't remember the last time i saw a poster for something. you would think living next to a huge university, someone might put up a poster occasionally but nope.

if i subscribed to an email list or checked brooklyn vegan i'd end up going to a lot more shows than i have time or money for. like every time someone who made a record i like decades ago rolls through i'd shell out the $40, which is totally the wrong approach. it's much more fun to just go see new artists for the price of a beer, or random free shows in the summer.

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 9 July 2023 19:59 (two years ago)

Going to shows, especially rock shows, after a certain age, is kind of a mixed proposition.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

Think maybe I am taking this Brazilian thing too far, right now listening to Kid Abelha.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 July 2023 20:16 (two years ago)

hahaha they have good songs! but then I guess it becomes more interesting if you're Brazillian

marisa monte played on NJ and me and my wife went to see. it was great. at some points it went full beatlemania with the level of screaming! her bass player played with Novos Baianos

titãs are a diff beast. cabeça dinossauro is the classic one, but it's more of a punk-ish sound. funnily enough, one of the titãs main songwriters and singers left the band and at one point, had a "supergroup" with marisa monte – they had a big hit in BR with a song that lifts a lot from Family Affair from Sly.

legião is the bigger band of all of this. they had such a huge following. songs so big they got covered by samba bands, selling million of records in a country that didn't even was fully of dictatorship nor had a lot going on economically, is kinda amazing. the following is also for the lyrics. they started more punk-ish, post punk - comsat angels, joy division. then it gets more folky, jangly as time goes by. love many songs by them, specially the first 3 (the 3rd record actually has the earliest songs they ever wrote). every now and then I just get obsessed by this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkM5e04vjzE por enquanto. since 94 prob.

80s bands there have so many microscenes and stuff to check outside of the big names you mentioned so far, you can really go deep!

fpsa, Monday, 10 July 2023 00:24 (two years ago)

(sorry for the bad syntax above)

I can also just post some youtube videos tomorrow of cool stuff

fpsa, Monday, 10 July 2023 00:27 (two years ago)

Cool, thanks!

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 July 2023 00:40 (two years ago)

I saw Marisa Monte in Maryland near Washington DC in 2022. Mostly good show plus she had impressive visuals on a screen behind her for nearly every song. I said "mostly" as some of her catalogue of songs don't wow me. She was just back in this area as well recently, but I didn't go this time

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 July 2023 12:21 (two years ago)

TIL that 1/3 of Tribalistas was in Titãs.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 05:10 (two years ago)

Some surprise Paralamas content here: https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=1675484&boardid=77&threadid=80292

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

Oh right, sorry

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

what's that link?

fpsa, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 15:19 (two years ago)

Private sub-borad.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 15:34 (two years ago)

Just talking about photographers taking pictures of some Brazilian celebs instead of Paralamas at summer stage.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 15:35 (two years ago)

I forgot to mention earlier this year I saw Djavan. Djavan emphasized all the Nascimento like aspects in his songs that I like and was pretty good at his suburban Washington DC show. An ilx search shows some skepticism of him over the years, but I think live he outweighed my concerns re jazz fusion cliches and too much schmaltz

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

Djavan wrote some great songs, which is mostly how I know him.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:30 (two years ago)

But I came to say, oh hey, partly as a result of this thread I did a Paralamas song at karaoke last night, which felt really good even though nobody was from Brazil so it was unfamiliar to them.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:32 (two years ago)

Also, just some good stuff from Nenhum de Nós on an 80s Brazilian Rock playlist which also has some of the usual suspects mentioned recently.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:09 (two years ago)

Listening to Legião Urbana now, “Que país é este.”

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:02 (two years ago)

nenhum de nós is pretty bad, man, lay off the pipe.

that's the 3rd legião record. try the first and second one and fourth

fpsa, Friday, 14 July 2023 23:35 (two years ago)

loving your posts, fpsa

budo jeru, Friday, 14 July 2023 23:48 (two years ago)

just getting around to hearing the arthur verocai s/t from '72 after, oh i'd say a decade of being aware of it.

i don't know if i would've like it so much back then. absolutely loving it this evening.

budo jeru, Friday, 14 July 2023 23:49 (two years ago)

Celia's version of Na Boca Do Sol is excellent, too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3aIZWXHE84

Deflatormouse, Friday, 14 July 2023 23:59 (two years ago)

thanks!

budo jeru, Saturday, 15 July 2023 00:09 (two years ago)

which is totally the wrong approach

by the way, i totally hear you, but it's okay to do a little bit of both!

budo jeru, Saturday, 15 July 2023 00:09 (two years ago)

ime seeing octogenarians in concert does not always reap dividends. especially rock shows, i'm not talking about Cecil Taylor.

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 15 July 2023 03:21 (two years ago)

I like the first track on the first Legião Urbana album, “Será,” so I guess I should listen to the rest of it.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 13:09 (two years ago)

Or I could just listen to that one track on repeat, which would suit me just fine.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 13:13 (two years ago)

Será is their biggest hit prob – that's the one I mentioned being covered (with success as well) by samba/pagode bands.

fpsa, Saturday, 15 July 2023 15:07 (two years ago)

Assuming their second biggest was “Tempo Perdido,” is that correct?

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 15:43 (two years ago)

And hey, TIL that in Portuguese the Duolingo Legendary Level is called Titãs.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 15:52 (two years ago)

LU's "Índios" seems to briefly melodically quote "Chantilly Lace."

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 16:07 (two years ago)

You might be able to tell that I am listening to the Mais do Mesmo comp. Great title.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 16:10 (two years ago)

Also learned the other day that the lead singer of Legião Urbana, Renato Russo, died of AIDS-related complications, as did Cazuza, as did one of my favorites from Argentina who also had ties to Brazil, Federico Moura of Virus.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 16:15 (two years ago)

So I guess Herbert Vianna of Os Paralamas do Successo, who crashed his plane into the sea, thereby killing his wife, confining himself to a wheelchair and suffering serious brain damage, got off relatively easy.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

Believe he was flying to visit his friend Dado Villa-Lobos, grand-nephew of Heitor and guitarist for Legião Urbana.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:26 (two years ago)

haha great posts so far.

tempo perdido was a big hit but I think it got bigger recently (15 years) as well. Indios is great as well.

paralamas has a big hit with 2 Argentinian versions: Fito Paez (Trac Trac BR / Track Track AR) and Los Pericos (Para e Repara BR / Parata Y Mira AR)

titãs has transformed Patches (Clarence Carter) and made one of their biggest hits with Marvin, a reggae-ish song

fpsa, Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:25 (two years ago)

nenhum de nós biggest hit (or one of the biggest) is a Starman cover – called Astronauta de mármore (Marble Astronaut)

fpsa, Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:26 (two years ago)

I realized that “Marvin” was a cover of “Patches” when I first heard it, although I thought it might be just a ripoff. I know about the Fito Paez cover but haven’t really listened to it. There was a recent Fito Paez series on Netflix but I heard it wasn’t so good so I haven’t watched it. Fito first became known to me when one of his songs was used in a Coke commercial that ran over and over during the 2002 World Cup, at least in the US.

Paralamas also did a cover of the most famous song of Latin American Rock en Español, Soda Stereo’s “De música ligera” which is the first thing I heard from them and is atypical and kind of bad. Think they ultimately did succeed in making some inroads in Argentina, which may have kept them afloat during some lean times in Brazil.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:03 (two years ago)

To my earlier point, looks like somebody even wrote a book comparing Cazuza and Federico Moura.

https://www.tiempoar.com.ar/espectaculos/adrian-melo-federico-moura-y-cazuza-le-pusieron-color-y-alegria-al-rock-como-una-resistencia-a-la-dictadura/

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:13 (two years ago)

Of course there is also at least one book about Cazuza and Renato Russo.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:17 (two years ago)

nenhum de nós biggest hit (or one of the biggest) is a Starman cover – called Astronauta de mármore (Marble Astronaut)

Is it any better or worse than the Seu Jorge version in The Life Aquatic?

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:32 (two years ago)

Also it is my understanding and I have been told that there was basically little cross-pollination between Brazilian bands and those in the rest of Latin America due to a musical version of the Treaty of Tordesillas, as evidenced by the two different MTV Latin Americas.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:37 (two years ago)

“The VJs must have been drunk!”

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:37 (two years ago)

lol ahahaah that's so funny. it's not all MTV's fault to be honest – there were attempts of showing stuff (like café tacvba, they got some cult following in Brazil). I think it's a longer, older cultural fault in a sense where some of it stems from radio programmers thinking spanish pop (outside of Julio Iglesias or other) was not gonna be a hit in Brazil.

btw I think the Soda Stereo cover is not Paralamas, is done by Capital Inicial – which is one of the truly worst bands ever, but unfortunately, huge in Brazil (especially after doing an MTV Unplugged 15 years after their heyday. MTV Unplugged also being a huge lifeline to most of these artists)

Good unplugged records from Brazil:
– Gilberto Gil one is godlike.
– Rita Lee is kinda cool as an overall view on her work, not the greatest...
– Legião has a good one as well.
– Another guy you haven't mentioned yet, Lulu Santos. A huge hitmaker, has really great songs. But I would suggest picking up a greatest hits from 88 first.

fpsa, Saturday, 15 July 2023 22:42 (two years ago)

I have a soft spot for the Nenhum de Nós version tbh.

fpsa, Saturday, 15 July 2023 22:43 (two years ago)

btw I think the Soda Stereo cover is not Paralamas, is done by Capital Inicial

They both did it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJHmlxL57cU

Don’t think either one is quite as bad as Coldplay though.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 22:50 (two years ago)

I have a soft spot for the Nenhum de Nós version tbh.

Of “De música ligera”? Never heard it. Me, I’m partial to the version by Los Tres Chiflados.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 23:03 (two years ago)

Gilbert Gil MTV Unplugged (Ao Vivo) starts with a Paralamas song! Thanks for the rec!

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 01:28 (two years ago)

Rita Lee’s “Lanza perfume” sounds like The Doobie Brothers or something.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 01:35 (two years ago)

Legião Urbana Acústico MTV doesn’t seem to be streaming but is in certain places on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdPt7m928NI

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 01:50 (two years ago)

Rita Lee’s “Lanza perfume” sounds like The Doobie Brothers or something.

Sorry, “Lança Perfume.” Although it was apparently also ubiquitous on the Spanish-speaking of Latin America.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 14:41 (two years ago)

it is a ripoff (at least the intro) to what a fool believes. it's the better song tho! <3
I suggest actually listening to all things Rita first things first

damn never heard the paralamas version, eugh.

fpsa, Sunday, 16 July 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

THey must have been pretty hard up at the time.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 15:30 (two years ago)

This video is insanely of its time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L60qWVke-Sc

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 15:34 (two years ago)

It's even more funny because such an innocuous clip for a song that mixes up one of the most common drugs used in Brazil plus a pretty sexed up lyric:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lan%C3%A7a-perfume
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/lanca-perfume-lanca-perfume.html (not a great translation, but gets the drift)
https://healthland.time.com/2010/12/02/whats-lanca-perfume-the-biggest-drug-in-rio-youve-never-heard-of/ (not in Rio only btw)

fpsa, Sunday, 16 July 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

The Paralamas Fito Paez song is … okay, but maybe not the best use of their talents.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 20:21 (two years ago)

Será is their biggest hit prob – that's the one I mentioned being covered (with success as well) by samba/pagode bands.

There seems to be symphonic live version with Legião Urbana having Herbert Vianna of Paralamas singing. Assuming this with done after Renato Russo passed.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 05:18 (two years ago)

This was done

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 05:18 (two years ago)

Then there’s this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oPBI5hoEo

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 05:20 (two years ago)

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerto_Sinf%C3%B4nico_Legi%C3%A3o_Urbana_-_Rock_in_Rio
In addition to the one with Herbert Vianna on vocals there seems to be a multi-vocalist sing-a-long at the end.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 05:23 (two years ago)

I see others versions by Simone, Tiee, Daniel and Raça Negra.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:24 (two years ago)

Listening to Legião Urbana now, “Que país é este.”

I was talking about the song itself, not the album. Paralamas also did a good version for their Acústico MTV album.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:15 (two years ago)

Which album Dado Villa-Lobos played on.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:17 (two years ago)

Lots of covers of “Tempo Perdido,” although there are also other songs with that to add confusion.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:37 (two years ago)

With that title.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:37 (two years ago)

Including one by Paolo Ricardo, the lead singer of RPM, not that I know anything about either apart from the names. Maybe the first, self-titled Legião Urbana album was originally supposed to be called RPM, but they had to change it because the other band had just put out a record.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:15 (two years ago)

Eh, not quite. The album title in question that RPM used so Legião Urbana couldn’t was Revoluções por minuto.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:22 (two years ago)

Just noticed that Paolo Ricardo’s second solo album Psico Trópico was produced by the famous, the infamous or at least ubiquitous and omnipresent Liminha, who first came to fame playing bass in Os Mutantes on their third album and then went on to produce tons of albums including classics like Paralamas’s Selvagem? and Titãs’s Cabeça Dinossauro in 1986 alone.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:37 (two years ago)

leave RPM behind, they're bad

fpsa, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:16 (two years ago)

Simone getting a Latin Grammy Lifetime Achievement award.

https://www.grammy.com/news/latin-recording-academy-announces-2023-special-merit-award-honorees

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 16:58 (two years ago)

Muito obrigado!

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 20:53 (two years ago)

What about Rogério Flausino and Jota Quest, are they in your killfile?

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 12:51 (two years ago)

jesus christ, yes

fpsa, Thursday, 20 July 2023 13:05 (two years ago)

Haha I don't know the artist but feel instinctive revulsion towards any musical act that calls themselves "Jota Quest".

Would play a Brazilian bootleg dreamcast game called that tho.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 July 2023 13:57 (two years ago)

There are a couple of stories of how they got that name. One involves Tim Maia.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 13:58 (two years ago)

LU's "Índios" seems to briefly melodically quote "Chantilly Lace."

Paralamas’s “Busca Vida” seems to do the same for “#9 Dream.”

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:23 (two years ago)

TIL that Lulu Santos was once in a band with Patrick Moraz of Yes (and The Moody Blues) called Vímana.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 23:04 (two years ago)

I forgot that Rita Lee had been married to Arnaldo Baptista for a few years and maybe never quite knew how big she really became in Brazil.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 July 2023 00:30 (two years ago)

Moraz's solo album Story of i features a number of Brazilian sequences, he even sketched drawings of South American percussion instruments for the liner notes.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 21 July 2023 01:04 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2tZNLnC2pI

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 July 2023 01:38 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9HZiEeq57g

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 July 2023 01:44 (two years ago)

^high energy performance from Paralamas at the first Rock in Rio concert in 1985

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 July 2023 02:02 (two years ago)

just getting around to hearing the arthur verocai s/t from '72 after, oh i'd say a decade of being aware of it.

i don't know if i would've like it so much back then. absolutely loving it this evening.

― budo jeru, Friday, July 14, 2023 7:49 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.lincolncenter.org/series/summer-for-the-city/jazz-estandaacute-morto-arthur-verocai-with-orchestra

Deflatormouse, Monday, 31 July 2023 02:05 (two years ago)

Na minha cidade, no interior

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 31 July 2023 09:14 (two years ago)

xp just saw that! unfortunately i already flew to NYC once to see music this summer. and the show in chicago, a bit closer to me, is like $50! let us know if you go

budo jeru, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 01:35 (two years ago)

it's free and only 2 or 3 miles away from me, so unless something comes up i'll probably go!

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 01:54 (two years ago)

This has a very late summer feeling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmhO7iCrC2E

bbq, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 06:53 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuEQzPrTu0

Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:16 (two years ago)

verocai tomorrow in nyc! got my tickets for the express line

fpsa, Friday, 11 August 2023 00:03 (two years ago)

Cool

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 04:24 (two years ago)

let us know how it goes!

corrs unplugged, Friday, 11 August 2023 10:56 (two years ago)

^

budo jeru, Friday, 11 August 2023 15:37 (two years ago)

I have never felt later to a party than about this: despite being a bossa-nova fan since my early 20s, it was literally in April that somebody mentioned Elis Regina and I said “heard of her, is she good?” and the person to whom I was speaking immediately played me Aguas de Março for the first time. I can’t believe I’d never heard it before? It is handily my new #1 “favourite song ever recorded”, like I am destroyed by it

If you hate movies, this Barbie is for you (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:45 (two years ago)

Ha, I remember I first heard of her because I was talking about some Brazilian stuff in an elevator in graduate school, probably some Tropicalia or Bebel Gilberto, and some stranger piped up to tell me about Elis Regina.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

Feel like it’s hard to get a handle on all the things going on in Brazilian music for various reasons.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

It is so weird that I missed it! Joao did a version of that song that I MUST have heard at some point, I guess it just bled into the surrounding tracks. I mentioned it to a friend this morning over text and he showed me two pairs of music friends who'd covered the Regina/Jobin version, and I just hadn't noticed. God. What other monuments to musical genius are residing in my blind spots, I wonder!

If you hate movies, this Barbie is for you (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 11 August 2023 19:58 (two years ago)

https://www.discogs.com/master/363981-Cartola-Cartola
this one ^
not on spotify
https://www.musicasdonordeste.net/2017/06/momentompb-cartola-i-cartola-ii-1974.html
grab it here

fpsa, Friday, 11 August 2023 20:14 (two years ago)

za za zey za

budo jeru, Friday, 11 August 2023 20:24 (two years ago)

so i'm here and, uh... did na boca do sol go viral on tik tok or something??

Deflatormouse, Friday, 11 August 2023 23:01 (two years ago)

i've been to a million free shows here and never seen a line like this for anything ever

Deflatormouse, Friday, 11 August 2023 23:03 (two years ago)

zoomers were climbing onto forklifts in the street to watch Arthur Verocai LOL

https://i.ibb.co/X2zprw7/IMG-20230811-212017385-2.jpg

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 12 August 2023 02:20 (two years ago)

You wanted a field report, well, by 6:30 the line stretched 3 and a half blocks. I think at that point, most of us understood we weren't getting in, but had decided on standing by to listen from the street. Verocai came on around 8:30 after an interminable DJ set and multiple fawning introductions.

Renditions were note perfect, as you'd expect. They played the album out of sequence, starting with the instrumentals- this postponed the revelation that, for a guy who must be pushing 80, his voice hasn't really aged. It certainly crossed my mind that I might as well be listening to the record from the comfort of home.

But in this context the beauty and depth of the music stood out. So did its anonymity. Makes perfect sense as a crate digger's holy grail, an expertly composed and arranged record that vibes and just needs someone to put a face on it. My friend compared it to library music along similar lines- super OTM. Reaffirmed what I've always felt about the LP (that it's really, really good; that it's not quite the masterpiece it thinks it is)

Presumably some influencer blew this up on social media. I don't know if Adrian Younge is famous enough to account for the popularity of this event on his own or not. Very cool to see Brazilian music from the 70's *fucking finally* getting this kind of love in America!!! Of course it's for the album that conforms the most neatly to an auteur mentality of the Great Gothic Genius all too prevalent in the anglosphere...

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:36 (two years ago)

had several thoughts yesterday

• the crowd seemed very hip/fashionable – no idea where that came from tbh
• loved to hear lots of classics played before during the dj set – baden powell, tim maia, bethania...
• loved the concert a lot despite a bunch of stuff hahah
• • kinda felt that sometimes drums/bass and some of brass went more jammy/heavy handed than the record. there's a vibe that is hard to achieve again on most of recorded brazilian music between 71 and 76
• • hated the way vocals were handed. I think the live mix is partly to blame – a very clean sound, which made it hard for vocals... they were almost struggling to get it out sometimes. the vocals (as most stuff again from the era) will be these lowkey melodies, hummed and harmonized. maybe some reverb would've helped here, idk
• • at the same time, the female singer was too hammy (she's also a former actress in a very, very bad sketch comedy show in Brazil, can't even believe that). like a very bad caricature of what emotion sounds like, we like to call this som de barzinho in Brazil

all in all thought, it was really cool to see and hear him so revered. his attitude through the concert was also a mix of cool/humble that was <3. and it was kinda cool to hear him attempt to do a small rap at some point hahaha.

ps. also got choked up by the homage the jazz is dead folks did for joão donato beforehand. amazing.

fpsa, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

also wtf is people clapping randomly before the music is even finished? makes no sense

fpsa, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:07 (two years ago)

this footage appeared as part of the Donato homage – amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lbZ0kcR_48

fpsa, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:07 (two years ago)

some of brass went more jammy/heavy handed than the record.

i noticed that too. just personally, the performance didn't deviate enough from the record for my liking, but then when it did it wasn't great.

ps. also got choked up by the homage the jazz is dead folks did for joão donato beforehand. amazing.

oh i missed that!! (took a walk)

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:39 (two years ago)

Was just thinking that, despite not being as canonical as Elis & Tom, the album Elis & Toots is still top shelf.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 August 2023 12:41 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Somebody told me to listen to Renato Russo's Italian album so here I am:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i0nqpy6EgM

Sir Lester Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 November 2024 17:50 (one year ago)

eight months pass...

how do we not have a novos baianos thread?

how come none of you let me know they are touring north america right now??

budo jeru, Thursday, 24 July 2025 19:51 (nine months ago)

Oh that's rad.

We don't have threads for a lot of Brazilian acts we should.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 24 July 2025 19:57 (nine months ago)

going tonight, will report back, without moraes is a hard sell, but pepeu, baby and paulinho are still there...

fpsa, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:35 (nine months ago)

as in – I don't think they can play mistério do planeta or acabou chorare without moraes... but we'll see

fpsa, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:36 (nine months ago)

First ever Novos Baianos North American tour. I don't think they came to my area (Washington DC) but I see they are in NYC tonight.

Jonathan Bogart in his email newsletter wrote a long review of their Chicago gig with Joe Bataan opening. Bogart said in part -

when the three surviving original members of Novos Baianos finally emerged, the reason for the delay became clear: guitarist Pepeu Gomes was in a wheelchair, flanked by singers Paulino Boca de Cantor and Baby Consuelo, who emerged to rapturous applause — there was a significant, and rowdy, Brazilian contingent in the crowd, and it was the first time they’ve played the U.S. in their fifty-year career — and gave brief expressions of gratitude in rapid Portguese and halting English.

as they shifted into second gear it was clear that Pepeu’s guitar playing was not affected; a raging “Dê um Rolê” made it clear why he had been invited to play with Megadeth and Living Color in the Nineties, and some of the older members of the crowd fled as the amp stacks blared feedback. Then Baby Consuelo, who had hung back with the percussionists for the first few songs, took center stage, although she apparently had problems with her in-ear monitor over the course of the evening, which repeated visits from stage techs were unable to solve — finally she took it out and let it dangle as she danced and sang in an Elza Soares-inspired throaty scat, which seemed to break out more frequently over the course of the show.

By contrast with her boundless energy, Paulino Boca de Cantor was relatively staid: hunched with age and looking a bit like a Vegas lounge singer, he stuck to his microphone until towards the end of the show she coaxed him over to where Pepeu sat in order to delight together in another of his intricate solos. His aging voice was exactly as smooth and mellow as any stereotypical Brazilian crooner’s would be, and only the playful, eccentric lyrics to songs like “Mistério do Planeta” and “Acabou Chorare” distinguished his performances from a trad samba-canção or bossa nova. Which is, of course, part of the magic of Novos Baianos: eccentric and traditional at the same time, they contain multitudes.

I wish I was more familiar with the band’s discography outside of Acabou Chorare in order to give a proper breakdown — flitting through their recent live releases on streaming services, I recognize a bunch of the tunes they performed, although not the order a few days later (and the setlist.fm record is very incomplete). I do remember being ecstatic at “A Menina Dança” — Baby Conseulo is still just as lively and mesmerizing at 73, bright blue hair, unabashed facial reconstruction and all, as she was in 1972 — and thrilling when she stopped the band cold during a run through of “Tinindo Trincando” in order to make them play it even faster, taking the second half at a blistering punk-rock pace. Twice during the show, Pepeu Gomes staggered up from his seated position in order to deliver a righteously climactic guitar solo —...

But even if the current views are retrograde (Baby’s most recent Brazilian media controversy was over a sermon where she urged victims of sexual abuse to forgive their abusers), the old music remains idealistically utopian, and I find myself in the somewhat awkward position I was in as a young believer, where I have to believe that the perfection of the Message cannot be dimmed by the imperfections of its messengers. It was a uniquely intense, delicious, and nourishing experience to get to see and hear Pepeu, Baby and Paulino and their backing band at the opening concert of their first-ever U.S. tour, even though I hadn’t known their music until last year and hadn’t even spent much time with the canonical album until last week.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:42 (nine months ago)

A little Itamar Assumpção exhibit on at the NYPL for the Performing Arts in Lincoln Center right now

35 Millimeter Dream Police (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 July 2025 21:09 (nine months ago)

going tonight, will report back, without moraes is a hard sell, but pepeu, baby and paulinho are still there...

― fpsa, Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:35 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah ... :(

would love to hear your thoughts on the show. my friend will be there! lol, i'm totally NOT jealous

budo jeru, Friday, 25 July 2025 01:31 (nine months ago)

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ZKwyiuXzY/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Someone’s video clip from NYC show .

Oh , guitarist Moraes died in 2020.

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 July 2025 17:21 (nine months ago)

It was mind blowing. They played non-stop. Pepeu had a hip surgery 20 days ago and needs to sit/use a wheelchair, and he rocked. Baby is bananas live. Paulinho is charming and low key, but also very amazing to see him sing so many classics. Crowd was crazy. It was pretty heavy at times! And they lowkey were helping/trying to figure out the sound in the beginning, class act and experience just there.

one weird thing was one of baby and pepeu's daughter singing acabou chorare... such an amazing song, and it went weird sometimes. but it was still great. because pepeu was just droning/strumming the opening chords for such a long time as a intro. sweet. it's one of those intros like Where were you from the Mekons or Shake some action or Undiu by João Gilberto – a state of trance and flow with such economy and briefness and melancholy. chills.

go see them if you can. a band that did this can't be a band that you miss:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlm_SIw2YnI

fpsa, Saturday, 26 July 2025 19:43 (nine months ago)

PS: pepeu went full throttle on Mistério, just like this. It was also amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWfseMcAUZY

fpsa, Saturday, 26 July 2025 19:46 (nine months ago)

I should have gone up to NY and seen Novos B at Webster Hall and gone to Lincoln Center NYPL for the Perf Arts to see the Itamar Assumpção exhibit mentioned above also.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 27 July 2025 05:13 (nine months ago)

three months pass...

RIP Lô Borges

Rairun, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:53 (six months ago)

six months pass...

https://www.jazzisdead.com/joyceetutty1

Joyce Moreno and drummer and supporter Tutty

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 May 2026 14:03 (two weeks ago)

I certainly am familiar with Joyce but didn't know about Tutty.

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 May 2026 14:12 (two weeks ago)

Critic Brad Luen on his fave non-US singer songwriters

Joyce Moreno
Okay I’m giving away that Brazil is going to do very well on my Top 70 Albums of the 1970s list, due at summer’s end. I reviewed the re-surfaced Natureza a few years ago, and the stuff that was actually released at the time was at least at that level.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 May 2026 20:17 (one week ago)


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