Taking sides: UK ATP04 1 Vs. 2

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I'm going to 1. I kind of wish I was going to 2, Mainly cos LCD Soundsystem are playing but then again I do get to see Shellac. Maybe it's just cos weekend 2 is more complete. Oh I don't know. Do you?

Weekend 1 line up so far:

MOGWAI »
SHELLAC »
TORTOISE »
BOREDOMS
CAT POWER »
ISIS
TRANS AM
PART CHIMP
MIKE WATT + THE SECONDMEN »
MIKE WATT + THE JOM & TERRY SHOW »
LIGHTNING BOLT
KID606
TODD
BROADCAST »
BOBBY CONN
ENVY
JAMES ORR COMPLEX

Weekend 2 line up so far:
ERASE ERRATA
BARDO POND »
JACKIE-O MOTHERFUCKER »
THRENODY ENSEMBLE
STEPHEN MALKMUS AND THE JICKS
SONIC YOUTH »
THE SHINS »
CAT POWER
DEERHOOF »
THE NOTWIST
HAR MAR SUPERSTAR »
MIIGHTY FLASHLIGHT
FURSAXA
MODEST MOUSE
OOIOO
DOUBLE LEOPARDS »
VIBRACATHEDRAL ORCHESTRA
SOPHIA
CASS MCCOMBS
LIGHTNING BOLT
THE TINDERSTICKS
FUCK
WOLF EYES
LOVE
LE TIGRE
BLACK DICE
TRAD GRAS OCH STENAR
CHARALAMBIDES
THE FIERY FURNACES
LCD SOUNDSYSTEM
POLMO POLPO/HANGED UP

― hmmmmm (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Lots of people seem to be echoing your opening sentences. I'm going to 1 not 2 and I disagree. LCD are totally worth seeing but for every Lightning Bolt or Love there's going to be a Polmo Polpo or Charalambides. In other words, too much stuff that doesn't work at a festival at all (I know it's all subjective but I'm thinking back to stuff like Pan American at ATP 2000 - what is the fucking point?).

Shellac have still to announce their day (really wish they'd get on with it though) and Envy are a cool addition to the w/e... oh, someone said something about Mission of Burma playing the second weekend, anything to go on there but hearsay?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I heard the MoB thing to. Possibly in a Matador email? I think it's pretty deffo. I don't know anyhting about envy - what's the deal there? Oh and not getting to see Deerhoof is not a good thing.

― hmmmmm (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and even if no-one plays on Shellac's day 'cept Shellac it'll be awesome.

― hmmmm (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Ditto.

Going to W1, frustrated by the lack of announcements. And wish I was seeing Love. However, too much not working at a festival = last year.

On Burma, I mentioned it after seeing it the 'new album' press release on the Matador boards - it definitely said ATP in April i.e. W2. Interestingly, the wording has changed since appearing on the Burma website and now just says Europe in 2004. I still think the weekend Bob Weston will be there makes sense, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

having seen all the headliners of atp 1 at previous festivals - atp 2.

also, atp 1 has sold out, which would make 2 the obvious choice.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

even if no-one plays on Shellac's day 'cept Shellac it'll be awesome.

*envisages looking at watch as 'Didn't We Deserve A Look At You The Way You Really Are' drifts into its third hour*

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, burma played at the last Shellac ATP (I missed em cos I was off doing something else) so it would totally make sense that they would be there on Shellac's day, esp given that Mr. Weston is involved. I seem to remember hearing about some kind of embargo on bands (other than the curators) who had played at ATP before. Have I just made this up? Who on the list has played before? Boredoms?

Mencap - I wasn't thinking of Shellac playing all day. Just doing their set and us all going to the beach for chips and ice-cream.

― neil simpson (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I chose weekend 2 because of the number of bands playing that I want to see but haven't seen live yet (Stephen Malkmus, Sonic Youth, Le Tigre, Fuck, The Notwist, Tindersticks, Jackie-O Motherfucker, and even Har Mar). There are a few bands I like on weekend 1 (Mogwai, Trans Am, Part Chimp) but I've seen them before.

Weekend 2's going to be fun :)

― jellybean (jellybean), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Just cos I know it won't happen doesn't mean I can't think about it...

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

True.

― hmmm (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Vote for weekend two. And there I shall be found. The only people I've seen on the W2 list is Love, and, I mean, its bloody LOVE, so that isn't a problem.

I'll be the one dancing with a complete lack of inhibition to LCD Soundsystem, Har Mar Superstar and The Fiery Furnaces.

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Scores on the doors so far: Weekend 1- 2 votes, Weekend 2- 3 votes

― hmmmmmm (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Better vote for Weekend 1, then. Broadcast, Kid606, Shellac, no Malkmus. Ex-cellent.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Cool. 3 all. I like your use of the lack of Malkmus.

― hmmmmm (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

And your killer Broadcast move.

― neil simpson (neil simpson), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I seem to remember hearing about some kind of embargo on bands (other than the curators) who had played at ATP before. Have I just made this up? Who on the list has played before? Boredoms?

Yes (a completely different version according to another thread. My question there - what exactly am I going to get from "The Boredoms" at ATP? - is still unanswered BTW). Bardo Pond, Threnody Ensemble and Broadcast all have as well.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Both? Got the tix awhile, plus a chalet for the RE:TG thing there as well. Dunno how you score that one!

― MattR, Thursday, 15 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to 2, but I'm not going at all now cos the girl I was going with dumped me.

2 looks like more fun. 1 looks like like beard stroking boyrock boredom (except for Braodcast and Kid 606)

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 15 January 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

AND Lightning Bolt and Kid606, Y'BASTARD

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 January 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

BLACK DICE

I did a double take at this and almost had a heart attack when I misread this as BLACK LACE!!!!!!!!!!

Still, they would quite appropriate for a clapped out Butlins camp!!!!!

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 15 January 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Ach, Fingle's Cave!!!!!! The link to Black Lace didn't work!!!!!!!!!

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 15 January 2004 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to ATP1, but there's a load of bands playing ATP2 I want to see as well - the only thing for it, I guess, will be to hope that they tour as well while they're over here. I really wish they'd announce more bands for the first one, though, it's just getting silly.

― cis (cis), Thursday, 15 January 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, I meant - I dunno - Part Chimp or someone, not Kid606 who you just mentioned. If I throw as many drugs down my neck as I'm planning to I may be able to see two of him.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 January 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The returning curators are not allowed to choose any of the bands they've picked before - so Sonic Youth can't have Boredoms but Tortoise can, or whatever.

In an ideal world I'd be going to a Sonic Youth/Shellac/Tortoise w/end, but as it is, our rub mob are going to the 2nd, w/ Boredoms and Bobby Conn so far the real only regret (I did see MOB at the 2002 Shellac w/end and they were v. v. excellent, so am really hope it is the 2nd w/end they're playing - if not, you 1st w/enders are in for a treat)

(btw Mencap, what you'll get from the current Boredoms incarnation is a trio of drummers w/ Eye making sounds and shouting over the top and - if their last appearance in London is anything to go by - it will blow yr fuckin mind)

Best perf I've seen at any of the three ATPS I've been to - Derek Bailey's set during the Tortoise w/end, easily

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 15 January 2004 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Score so far: Weekend 1 = 4 votes, weekend 2 = 5 votes. Keep 'em coming. Even if you're not going...

― hmmm (neil simpson), Friday, 16 January 2004 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Aye, MOB were great. I stood on tables and shouted a lot. That Boredoms thing sounds like... something I'd enjoy... at the time. Mind you I enjoyed Sonic Youth at the time, at ATP 2000.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 January 2004 09:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Missing The Boredoms would be my only real regret about choosing Weekend 2.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 16 January 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't OOIOO some permutation of The Boredoms anyway?

― Jason J, Friday, 16 January 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd choose the second weekend. But I can't afford to go to either.

OOIOO is a goofy Boredoms side project.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 16 January 2004 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

People have mentioned Pixies and AC/DC elsewhere, but let's not get silly now. One member of one band told me he was playing last night, but I don't want to go on abt anything until it's down on paper, it'll just annoy people.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 January 2004 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The second weekend would be the better weekend to do drugs. Double Leopards, Jackie O, Bardo Pond, Wolf Eyes, Charalambrides, Black Dice, etc.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 16 January 2004 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I will shit myself if either the Pixies or AC/DC play.

― hmmmmm (neil simpson), Friday, 16 January 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that why the 1st w/end sold out before the 2nd?

I'd imagine that it sold out because those are the curators of the UK lineups, so people know what they're getting.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Wah I was too poor to get tickets (and now I'm still too poor, there there my dear). Quite frankly I would only be going to get the inside leg measurements of Steve Malkmus. GIANT LEGS I TELL YOU GIANT.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I was talking about his LEGS!!!

― perverts (starry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Quite frankly I would only be going to get the inside leg measurements of Steve Malkmus.

Sarah, I could try and do that for you if you want! :p

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

w/e 1

Bought tickets when I knew nothing except who the hosts were. Still waiting in hope for a good line up on the Shellac day (and refusing to believe any rumours about Pixies, MBV, AC/DC, The Cure or MOB until I see it confirmed).

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

From the Matador site - "Mission of Burma will be performing January 17 in New York City at Irving Plaza, in March at the SXSW convention in Austin, and in April at the All Tomorrow's Parties festival in Camber Sands."

New Confirmations for W/E 1:
ATOMBOMBPOCKETKNIFE
THE DISHES
MCLUSKY (hooray!)

New for w/e 2:
VINCENT GALLO
ARAB STRAP
ANGELBLOOD
DREAM/AKTION UNIT
CARLA BOZULICH RED HEADED STRANGER SHOW

Do we care about any of these people? Personally, I am totally excited about Mclusky.

― hmmm, Friday, 23 January 2004 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay! Arab Strap. another band i've always meant to see and haven't.... yet!

― jellybean (jellybean), Friday, 23 January 2004 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

McLusky were the, ah, mystery band I mentioned upthread. I don't know anything abt the Dishes, couldn't give a fuck abt ABPK and am gutted that Carla Bozulich is the next week.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 January 2004 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Vincent Gallo, cool!

Who is Carla Bozulich? (Actually, there are loads of acts on the 2nd w/end I don't know anything abt - I'm hoping this thread can partly become an infoswap one - Double Leopards, for example, who they??)

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 23 January 2004 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd be quite curious to see veincent gallo, hasn't he only ever played like 2 gigs in japan or something?

double leopards are umm quite droney. a bit taj mahal travellers maybe? there are threads about them here somewhere i think.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 23 January 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh damn, now that the first weekend's sold out, does that mean the second is likely to sell out soon? No way can I get hold of three friends with £100 for ages yet, especially not friends who'd want to go. People with money and friends who want to go to ATP2, I am morbidly envious....

― Kate Jane Connolly (fixitgirl), Friday, 23 January 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the website said there were 400 tickets left for the 2nd weekend

― jellybean (jellybean), Friday, 23 January 2004 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It has said that for a few days tho. I suspect the real figure is somewhat less. Don't sleep...

― hmm, Friday, 23 January 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The Dishes are garage-punk from Chicago.

The bill for the first weekend is looking more depressing all the time (although I love McLusky)

― Jason J, Friday, 23 January 2004 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

damn the ski chalet organization / prices. weekend 2 would be my pick, but i am not going to be able to get a crew together. double leopards info here:

http://www.doubleleopards.org/

i am thinking about making the trek up to leeds to see them with vibracathedral orchestra in mid-feb...

― marcg (marcg), Friday, 23 January 2004 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I've got tickets for both weekends, but I now can't get the time off work. Whoops.

― MattRobotn1k, Friday, 23 January 2004 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

vincent gallo hah! i'll probly go see that.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 January 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I just googled the Dishes, they sound like they might be good. There was an interview w/ them from like November that said they were doing ATP.

I've always wanted to hear Angleblood as well, now I remember.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 January 2004 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

New improved lineup for Week 1 (2 remains the same):

Friday 26 March
Mogwai, Cat Power, Isis, Kid606, Trans Am, Part Chimp, Todd, James Orr
Complex, Envy

Saturday 27 March
Tortoise, Boredoms, Lightning Bolt, Broadcast, Mike Watt's Secondmen,
+ Mike Watt's Tom &Jerry show, Azita

Sunday 28 March
Shellac of North America, Melt Banana, McLusky, Atombombpocketknife, French Toast, The Dishes, Uzeda, Stinking Lizaveta, Phillip Justice Roebuck, Entrance, A Whisper In The Noise

I like Melt-Banana and Stinking Lizaveta and Entrance. I don't like the fact this is being claimed as almost complete. Those six acts on the Saturday *certainly* represent good value for my ticket if that's the case.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Where are you getting this from DJM? There's nowt on the site. The saturday's looking pretty good. The Sunday is looking like a bunch of bands I haven't heard anything by. Although I was at the last Shellac ATP and the stuff I saw that I didn't know before was awesome generally so I'm not too worried.

What's the deal with Stinking Lizaveta and Entrance?

― hmmm, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Press release - I assume it'll be on the site in a tick. Yeah, the Sat looks good BUT THAT'S IT! For now. I mean last year and the one before it was what, eight bands/acts from 2pm onwards per stage, plus DJs in the bar and shit. I'm not arguing for quantity over quality, but the current lineup seems to be about 50% as plentiful as 2002.

Stinking Lizaveta - great instrumental sort of stoner-math band, had an album on Tolotta. Entrance - old-skool delta blues crossed w/ Papa M, friend to indie royalty it seems.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I've got that slightly empty feeling as well. Surely there must be more to come. Even weekend 2 is substantially more plentiful. 40 bands are listed on the atp site as having played over the 2 weekends in 2002, not including Shellac's 6 performances.

― hmm, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And there were only three or four that didn't play both, wasn't there? Well, if I get anything else I'll let you know

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

weekend 2 gets even better..Just confirmed
ESG
DIZZEE RASCAL
MISSION OF BURMA

I wouldn't normally go to a Dizzee show, but since I'll be there anyway, his show could be interesting to watch.

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

DIZZEE RASCAL: WHAT. THE. FUCK!

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

damn the chalet system. are there any outlets for getting single tickets? ebay--no luck...

― marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Stinking Lizaveta!!!!! Fuck, they canceled playing here.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I knew going to the first one would be a mistake.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

It is getting silly now isn't it :(

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

But I think the first one is hiding something. The number of bands confirmed so far is about half the ones on the list for weekend 2. You're probably going to get a reformed Pixies or another special band, especially since the curators are bigger names on that weekend

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I know. I'm not really interested in the "bigness" of the bands and to be honest I think Dizzee at ATP would be awkward and slightly weird, but they are going to have to pull out some incredibly tasty stuff to top that second week.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

ha you can have your reformed pixies!

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

*crosses fingers for Bubba Sparxxx*

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

ditto on the Sparxxx

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i ws joking. imagine tho, imagine.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha. Got tickets for the secong weekend after my friends decided to opt for that one. Before the line-ups were announced.

Woo.

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

God, my typing is shit.

second

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Broadcast have cancelled their weekend 1 appearance. I am REALLY unhappy about this. Fuck them.

New confirmations are:

CONVERGE
THE SECONDS
LUNGFISH

― hmmm, Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I believe Aereogramme are playing Mogwai's day also. I've seen Broadcast and Lungfish in the last six months and could live without either of them, but am very happy abt Converge (while imagining they'll go down like a sack of jism with most of the weekend's clientele).

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Broadcast were the best live thing I saw last year. I was massively looking forward to seeing them again. What's the deal with Converge? Why would they go down like a sack of jism?

― hmmm, Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

They're a metallic hardcore band, and as such not the sort of thing I imagine people being there to see. I hope I'm wrong. I enjoyed Broadcast in December, but I don't go crazy for them as a live spectacle is all.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Metallic hardcore sounds good to me! Bring it on.

I am actually totally gutted about Broadcast. They were one of the few things that were keeping me happy about going to WE1. the balance seems to be totally slipping the other way now, esp after hearing the fiery furnaces over the weekend. I'm sure it will still be great. Hope so anyway.

― hmmm, Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The Seconds are Brian Chase from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, one of Ex-Models, and a Japanese girl from a band called the High School Hell Cunts. Sounds like a good thing.

― Jason J, Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It sure does.

― hmmm, Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

MP3s here http://www.killrockstars.com/bands/factsheets/theseconds/

― Jason J, Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh, I can't believe Broadcast have pulled out. Given the way this is going I predict the next announcement will be that MBV have come out of retirement to play the second weekend in a special one off never to be repeated stylee.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone have a spare place in their chalet for the 2nd weekend? Email me..

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Explosions in the Sky confirmed for weekend two.

This weekend is going to be so good.

― jellybean (jellybean), Saturday, 21 February 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a firework display too? Jeez.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 21 February 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I've just checked the ATP website and these are the latest additions to W/End 2:

ESG
DIZZEE RASCAL
MISSION OF BURMA
SACCHARINE TRUST
JAMES YORKSTON

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 21 February 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

sun city girls state on their site that they are playing Tortoise's day. www.suncitygirls.com/news

― hmmm, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahh! That's a bit more like it

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Why they hell are they not putting this stuff on the site? It's not like they need to sell any more Tx. The whole thing is really starting to piss me off....

― hmmm, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Dunno. Maybe the bands are jumping the gun a little re: their own sites; there again the press releases I get sent out about it STILL say "Almost a third of tickets have been sold without the lineup being announced!"

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I do love their slight cottage industry lack of professionalism most of the time but they are really pushing it a bit far at the moment. Still, I'm really excited about it.

― hmmm, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

New confirmations for WE1 -
GROWING (Fri)
TURBONEGRO (Fri)
ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE (Fri)
SUN CITY GIRLS (Sat)

― hmm, Thursday, 26 February 2004 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

GET THE FUCK IN

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 February 2004 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Turbonegro, fuck YEAH!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 February 2004 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

FUCK! I've been waiting 11 years for the SCG to play the UK and I never thought I would see the day... I know people who have written to them, begging them to come over, to no avail. And now they're playing a fucking holiday camp! On the same bill as Turbonegro! I don't have a ticket for either weekend, but I suppose I'd feel worse if I had a ticket for Weekend 2 (which initially seemed more interesting). Most of the bands I'd be sure to see elsewhere eventually, but the Sun City Girls! I don't believe it. Somebody please offer them another show, anywhere! (I'll even drive...)

― radio morocco (radio morocco), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

SCG!!! *cries*

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that a sob of joy or a sob of "why didn't I buy a ticket?"...

― radio morocco (radio morocco), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah its my why didn't i buy sob.

I'd sell my soul to the devil to see SCG.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

OTM Julio. Lets organise another show for the next day or something. (vainly clutching at straws, still in shock, etc.)

― radio morocco (radio morocco), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Shellac are playing W/E1 so W/E 1!

On paper the seconds sound like a close approximation of my ideal band :-)

― mei (mei), Friday, 27 February 2004 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm getting so excited about this. Weekend Two, come on!

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Friday, 27 February 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

AMT and yes the SSG are gd additions (Julio, maybe they will play at that church in Hackney too!)

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 27 February 2004 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

haha I hope they end by 11pm otherwise I'm def experimenting with night buses this time.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 February 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

New for WE1

LUKE HAINES
SAVATH AND SAVALAS
PAPA M
NOBUKAZU TAKEMURA + AKI TSUYUKO
DEAD MEADOW
PHILLIP JUSTICE ROEBUCK

WE2
NINA NASTASIA

― hmmm, Thursday, 4 March 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

That's good. I really hope Luke Haines is playing early, personally speaking. Seeing him play while fucked up on drugs (me, not him) would be horrible. Nina is the best out of that whole list though and guess which w/e she's at... lalala

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 March 2004 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't even want to get into that whole thing.....

Again.

― hmmm, Thursday, 4 March 2004 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the final lineup save for two more bands, by the way. I assume those are the Pixies and AC/DC *cough*

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 March 2004 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

but then they will cancel to be replaced by Feeder and The Darkness

― hmmm, Thursday, 4 March 2004 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Arcwelder also added to w/e1

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 4 March 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you know what day? They played at Shellac's 2002 ATP so that would rule them out of the sunday...

― hmmm, Thursday, 4 March 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

You'd think. But they lied to us. They've sold out! Look, here's the lot. [aside - fuck me look where McLusky are!]

Friday 26th March
Mogwai
Turbo Negro
Converge
Isis
Trans Am
Part Chimp
Envy

Club Bit - Kid 606
Club Bit - Cex

Cat Power
Papa M
Acid Mothers Temple
Growing
James Orr Complex
Todd
TBC

Saturday 27th March
Tortoise
Boredoms
Mike Watt and the jom and terry show
Bobby Conn
Lightning Bolt
The Dishes
Fred Anderson

Nobakazu Takemura
Sun City Girls
Supersilent
Savath and Savalas
Mike Watt and the Secondmen
Lungfish
The seconds

Sunday 28th March
Shellac
McLusky
Dead Meadow
Phillip Roebuck Justice
French Toast
Stinking Lizavetta
Atombombpocketknife

Entrance
A whisper in the noise
Luke Haines
Uzeda
Arcwelder
Azita
TBC

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 March 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Bloody hell!

Maybe the new Mclusky stuff is really really great and they're going to be, like, soooooo huge n stuff.

― hmmm, Thursday, 4 March 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Mind you they're not exactly playing with the a-list are they... and Entrance is headlining the other stage so I'm not sure it's ordered by any spurious 'popularity'

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 March 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm now slightly (only slightly though) jealous of weekend 1.. they get Acid Mothers Temple, who I want to see again, and Trans Am, but I get to see them in May.. and Shellac.

Ah well.

― jellybean (jellybean), Thursday, 4 March 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Sonic Boom is playing WE1 apparently

― hmmm, Friday, 5 March 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 5 March 2004 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I think you mean OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

or similar.

― hmmm, Friday, 5 March 2004 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i am going to all of weekend 2 and the mogwai day of weekend 1, both of which facts i am ecstatically happy about. the only bands i'm *really* pissed off about missing on w/e 1 are mclusky, shellac and luke haines. and it isn't like i haven't seen mclusky and shellac before... and maybe luke haines will do a warmup show or something...

― emsk, Friday, 5 March 2004 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Here is the news - [I am not in any way conntected to the ATP organisation btw]

"8th March 2004
EXTRA CHALETS GO ONSALE

I am pleased to announce that a small amount of 5 & 7 berth chalets for Weekend 1 have just been put onsale through the ATP website - due to returned sales

Be quick though - I doubt they will be there for long!"

Savath & Savalas are no longer playing

Confirmations -
BOTNLEDJA
PREFUSE 73 »
SONIC BOOM

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

A google for Botnledja says they used to be called Silt. Who I dimly recall as being turgid shit. Who chose them and what were they thinking? I'd rather see S&S than P73 as well, although they're both a wild card to me in the live 'arena'.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't heard S&S as yet. The last 'proper' P73 LP I didn't rate but I really got into one word extinguisher for a while.

"
BOTNLEDJA (A.K.A Silt but that name is no longer in use) from Iceland is out with their 5th album "Iceland National Park" on Trust Me.

The band has recorded a lot more agressive album compared to their previous indie rock releases.

They have had great success in Iceland with all their albums and is said to be the best rock band to come from the extraordinary country. Hence the massive media attention on the new album in Iceland.
"

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Your login seems more appropriate than ever, "hmmm"

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 10:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I think hmmmm about the whole weekend at the moment.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Well... I am looking forward to seeing all of the following (while knowing this is an impossibility):

Mogwai
Turbo Negro
Converge
Isis
Trans Am
Part Chimp
Envy
Kid 606

Cat Power
Papa M
Acid Mothers Temple
Growing
Todd
Tortoise
Boredoms
Mike Watt and the jom and terry show
Bobby Conn
Lightning Bolt
Sun City Girls
Mike Watt and the Secondmen
Shellac
McLusky
Dead Meadow
Stinking Lizavetta
Entrance
Luke Haines
Uzeda

26 bands/acts. That's really not a bad haul, and better than, say, the full Reading lineup I'll wager.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm up for the following -
Shellac
Boredoms
Cat Power
Trans Am
Lightning Bolt
Kid 606 (for a wee while anyway)
Bobby Conn
Mclusky
Turbonegro
Papa M
Prefuse 73

I hope the people I don't know anything about are pretty great...

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

From warprecords.com

"Gallo is also performing at the Sonic Youth curated day of All Tomorrow’s Parties (weekend two, April 2, 3, 4), where he will perform an improv set with John Frusciante (guitar, Red Hot Chili Peppers) and Josh Klinghoffer (bass)."

I am glad I will not be there to witness this. I HATE John frusciante and his pained 'oh I'm playing something high pitched and a bit fiddly' expression. wanker.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)

On balance I think I hate the idea of Vincent Gallo doing an "improv" set more

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

it is a combination which should not be allowed. I'd rather watch them wank onto each other.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I wouldn't. It'll still suck though.

― hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 11 March 2004 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Right - who here is getting totally excited about this?

― hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 18 March 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

ATP 1 this weekend coming - Roll Call: Me! Ricardo! Cis! Hmmmm! DJ Mencap! Aldo_Cowpat! Onimo! JasonJ? Mei? emsk/3!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm getting fairly excited. I grabbed a pile of mp3s from various sources over the weekend and put together a couple of cd-rs in a do-it-yourself Rough Guide stylee and I can safely say there's much more to look forward to than I'd first thought - and it's going to be REALLY LOUD :)

Is it worth attempting an ATP w/e1 FAP?
I'd suggest a day and time but I've yet to see a timetable of bands and I'd want to work around that.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

WEEKEND ONE TIMES

FRIDAY 26TH MARCH 2004 - MOGWAI

STAGE 1
MOGWAI 10.45pm - 12.15pm
TURBO NEGRO 9.15pm - 10.15pm
ISIS 8.00pm - 8.45pm
TRANS AM 6.45pm - 7.30pm
CONVERGE 5.30pm - 6.15pm
PART CHIMP 4.15pm - 5pm
ENVY 3.00pm - 3.45pm

STAGE 2
CAT POWER 9.45-11.00PM
PAPA M 8.15pm - 9.15pm
JAMES ORR COMPLEX 7.00pm - 7.45pm
GROWING 5.45pm - 6.30pm
ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE 4.30pm - 5.15pm
SONIC BOOM 3.15pm - 4.00pm
TODD 2pm - 2.45pm

STAGE 2 CLUB NIGHT
CEX -12AM - 12.45PM
DJ JOHN PEEL 12.45PM - 2.30PM
KID606 - 2.30AM - 3.30AM
DJ NASTY G? 3.30AM - 5AM

SATURDAY 27TH MARCH 2004 - TORTOISE

STAGE 1
TORTOISE 10.45pm - 12.15pm
SUN CITY GIRLS 9.15pm - 10.15pm
MIKE WATT AND THE SECONDMEN 8.00pm - 8.45pm
LUNGFISH 6.45pm - 7.30pm
THE SECONDS 5.30pm - 6.15pm
THE DISHES 4.15pm - 5pm
BOREDOMS .2.30pm - 3.45pm

STAGE 2
LIGHTNING BOLT 9.30pm -10.30 pm -
BOBBY CONN 8pm - 9pm
PREFUSE 73 6.45pm - 7.30pm
SUPERSILENT 5.30pm - 6.15pm
DJ TAKEMURA/AKI 4.15pm - 5pm
FRED ANDERSON/CHAD TAYLOR- 3.00pm - 3.45pm
MIKE WATT AND THE JOM AND TERRY SHOW 1.45pm - 2.30pm

STAGE 2 CLUB NIGHT
STEREOLAB DJS - 12.15PM - 2.15PM
JOHNNY HERNDON DJ 2.15PM - 5AM

SUNDAY 28TH MARCH 2004 - SHELLAC

STAGE 1
Shellac - 10.45pm - 12.15am
Arcwelder - 9.15pm -10.00pm
Botnledja - 8.00pm-8.45pm
Dead Meadow -6.45pm - 7.30pm
Atom Bomb Pocket Knife:- 5.30pm -6.15pm
A Whisper in the Noise - 4.15pm -5.00pm
Phillip Roebuck- 3.15pm -3.45pm

STAGE 2
Uzeda - 10.00pm -11.15pm
McLusky - 8.45pm - 9.30pm
Azita - 7.30pm - 8.15pm
Stinking Lizaveta - 6.15pm - 7.00pm
Entrance - 5.00pm - 5.45pm
Luke Haines - 3.45pm - 4.30pm
French Toast - 2.30pm - 3.15pm
Shellac 12.45pm - 2.00pm

DJs -
Carrie Weston 11.15am - 2am
Intensive Care DJ's 2am - 3am

― Jason J, Monday, 22 March 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

haha there will be NO not listening to Shellac!

The problem is I don't know enough to say "I'll definitely be free at time x, I hate both those bands". Unless you want to meet Saturday night during Stereolab's DJ set.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray! 2 Shellac performances. :-)

Just as well I bought those Pixies tickets then. :-/

Obvious clashes:

Sonic Boom vs Part Chimp
Papa M vs ISIS
Bobby Conn vs Secondmen
SCG vs Lightning Bolt
and having to leave Uzeda early.

FAP Saturday before Mike Watt in the Queen Vic?
Bad luck for people who wanted to see Rangers vs Celtic on Sunday, unless you don't mind missing Shellac.

I was considering making a "I Used To Be The Drummer In The Rock Group Gay Dad" t-shirt in tribute to the recent thread, but haven't yet.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I would be happy to arrange some sort of meeting but don't expect to be in a state to fulfil any wild promises... the bar after hours is a pretty good bet though... as for Rangers v Celtic or Shellac, I guess it depends whether you want any sort of precision and finesse with your violence and anger.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

precision and finesse
I assume you aren't referring to Bobo Balde's distribution from defence :P

The only problem with the bar afterhours is that I've usually been at the bar during hours :)

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Why don't we meet and go for a run first thing on Saturday morning. Say 8am?

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

And cut into my swimming time?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Good idea. Here's what I look like:

http://www.simpsonassociatesinc.com/running/fixx.gif

― Jim Fixx (DJ Mencap), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

who is going to weekend two?

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 22 March 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Thought y'all might appreciate this:

WEEKEND ONE TIMES

FRIDAY 26TH MARCH 2004 - MOGWAI

STAGE 1
MOGWAI 10.45pm - 12.15pm
TURBO NEGRO 9.15pm - 10.15pm
ISIS 8.00pm - 8.45pm
TRANS AM 6.45pm - 7.30pm
CONVERGE 5.30pm - 6.15pm
PART CHIMP 4.15pm - 5pm
ENVY 3.00pm - 3.45pm

SOUNDCHECKS
10AM - 12PM - MOGWAI
12PM - 1PM - ENVY

STAGE 2
CAT POWER 9.45-11.00PM
PAPA M 8.15pm - 9.15pm
JAMES ORR COMPLEX 7.00pm - 7.45pm
GROWING 5.45pm - 6.30pm
ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE 4.30pm - 5.15pm
SONIC BOOM 3.15pm - 4.00pm
TODD 2pm - 2.45pm

SOUNDCHECKS
CATPOWER 10.30AM-11.30AM
TODD 11.30AM - 12.30PM

STAGE 2 CLUB NIGHT
CEX -12AM - 12.45PM
DJ JOHN PEEL 12.45PM - 2.30PM
KID606 - 2.30AM - 3.30AM
DJ NASTY G? 3.30AM - 5AM

SATURDAY 27TH MARCH 2004 - TORTOISE

SOUNDCHECKS
TORTOISE - 10AM -11.30AM
BOREDOMS 11.30AM - 1PM

SOUNDCHECKS
MIKE WATT AND THE JOM AND TERRY SHOW 11AM - 12PM

STAGE 2 CLUB NIGHT
STEREOLAB DJS - 12.15PM - 2.15PM
JOHNNY HERNDON DJ 2.15PM - 5AM

SUNDAY 28TH MARCH 2004 - SHELLAC

Soundchecks
Arcwelder 11am -12pm
Phillip Roebuck - 12pm - 1pm

Soundchecks
Uzeda 10-11am
Shellac 11am - 12pm

DJs -
Carrie Weston 11.15am - 2am
Intensive Care DJ's 2am - 3am

― MattRobotn1k, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to weekend two; is the schedule/band times up yet?

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

MattRobotn1k - I appreciated it much more yesterday when I had not seen it before.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, but now it's got the all important times of the soundchecks!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Doh. I'll ask bout the second weekend then...

― MattRobotn1k, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Here you go... I like the bit at the end where it says the Tindersticks "are threatening not to soundcheck".

WEEKEND TWO TIMES

STEPHEN MALKMUS DAY - APRIL 2ND 2004

STAGE 1
Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks 10.45-12.15pm
Modest Mouse 9.15pm - 10.15pm
The Shins 8.00pm - 8.45pm
Mission of Burma 6.45pm - 7.30pm
The Fiery Furnaces 5.25pm - 6.15pm
Miighty Flashlight 4.15pm - 5pm
White Magic 3pm - 3.45pm

Soundchecks
Stephen Malkmus - 10.30am -12pm
White Magic 12pm - 1pm

STAGE 2
ESG -9.45pm -11pm
Enon - 8.15pm - 9.15pm
James Yorkston- 7pm - 7.45pm
Nina Nastasia - 5.45pm - 6.30pm
Cass McCombs - 4.30pm -5.15pm
Deerhoof - 3.15pm - 4.00pm
Tras Gras Och Stenar 2pm - 2.45pm

Soundchecks
ESG 10am - 12pm
Trad Gras Och Stenar 12pm - 1pm

DJS-STAGE 2
12am - 2am - Justin Spear (Stereolab)
2am - 5am Belle and Sebastian DJ's

SONIC YOUTH DAY - APRIL 3RD 2004

STAGE 1
Sonic Youth - 10.45-12.15pm
Vincent Gallo 9.15pm - 10.15pm
Le Tigre 8.00pm - 8.45pm
Angelblood 6.45pm - 7.30pm
ooioo 5.25pm - 6.15pm
Black Dice 4.15pm - 5pm
Sacc Trust 3pm - 3.45pm
Fuck 1.45pm - 2.30pm

Soundchecks
Sonic Youth 10am - 11.30am
Fuck 11.30am - 12.30pm

STAGE 2
Lightning bolt -9.30pm -10.45pm
wolf eyes 8pm - 9pm
Charalambides 6.45pm - 7.30pm
Erase Errata 5.30pm - 6.15pm
Dream Aktion Unit (Chris Corsano) 4.15pm - 5pm
Double Leopards 3pm - 3.45pm
Carla Bozulich/Nels Cline 1.45pm - 2.30pm

Soundchecks
Carla Bozulich 11am - 12.30pm

DJS - STAGE 2
12am - 2am - Ailidh Lennon
2am - 3.30am DJ Spykid
3.30am - 5am - Russell Haswell TBC

ATP DAY - APRIL 4TH 2004

STAGE 1
The Tindersticks 10.45-12.15pm
Love w/ Arthur Lee 9.15pm - 10.15pm
Cat Power 8.00pm - 8.45pm
Arab Strap 6.45pm - 7.30pm
Sophia 5.25pm - 6.15pm
Explosions in The Sky 4.15pm - 5pm
Ella Guru 3pm - 3.45pm

Soundchecks
Tindersticks 10am - 12pm - they are threatening not to Soundcheck - TBC
Polmo Polpo/Hangedup 12pm - 1pm

STAGE 2
LCD Soundsystem -10pm - 11.15pm
The Notwist - 8.30pm - 9.30pm
Bardo Pond 7pm - 8pm
Jackie-O Motherfucker - 5.30pm - 6.30pm
Threnody Ensemble 4.15pm - 5pm
Polmo Polpo/hangedup 3pm - 3,45pm
Vibra Cathredral Orchestra 1.45pm - 2.30pm
Fursaxa 12.30pm - 1.15pm

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What?? No Dizzee Rascal??

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, good point... he was only sposed to be DJing though. I'm not going to w/e 2 anyways.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Russel Haswell tho. (almost anyway)

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Dizzee Rascal is supposed to be DJing Stage 2 on the Sunday night.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

and where's Har Mar? not that I'm really going to see him etc...

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

There's some annoying clashes for weekend 2 too.

Erase Errata vs Ooioo
The Shins vs Enon
The Notwist vs Cat Power and Love

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

We got Melt-Banana knocked off *our* weekend... don't bitch at us...

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR YOU FUXORS TO TALK ABOUT WEEKEND TWO NEXT WEEK.

Ahem. Thank you.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Are we all aware that the clocks go forward this weekend?

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ssshhh - remember not everyone could get into the Shellac sets on Stage 2 in 2002. I was keeping quiet in the hope that half the camp would have a lie in and turn up just as I walked out saying how good they were :-P

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I've had a day at home (twisted my ankle out on the piss last night) listening to as many of the bands I knew nothing about as I could. Jeebus, I'm excited now (although the shitness of Southern's streams detracted from the joy somewhat) - who'd have ever thought I'd be bemoaning sets by Entrance and ABPK conflicting?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

twisted my ankle out on the piss last nightWe'll be easy to spot for a FAP - I'm still limping from having a toenail pulled out.

epitonic.com has a pile of mp3s available in the artists section - that's where I got much of the stuff to put together the cdrs.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I was keeping quiet in the hope that half the camp would have a lie in and turn up just as I walked out saying how good they were :-P

Hah! I'll stay up all night ~~if I have to~~

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, two main FAP options suggested:

Stereolab's DJ set (although the strains of the day may have told by then, I missed Aphex Twin last year under similar circumstances)
Queen Vic before Mike Watt's Tom & Jerry Show set

I'll be with Onimo anyway, given that we're in the same chalet. Any advance on the two of us for either option?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd favour the Queen Vic, for reasons similar to aldos.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes... there's probably some football on so I'll be there or thereabouts anyways...

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I'll wear my 'miserable cnut' t-shirt. That should make me spottable. :-) Try and grab to the table to the right of the double door - that should have a decent view of the footie?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Birmingham v Leeds :(

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, we may have to pick somewhere/when else then. I'm not going anywhere near any football, even on the telly.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

In which case we might not want a view of it after all. :-/

Rangers v Celtic clashes with Shellac.
Arsenal v Man U clashes with Entrance and ABPK (which clash with each other slightly).

Unlike last year, when we watched the FA Vase final in the Camber Castle...

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the Camber Castle the one with a pool table or two about a 1/4 mile up the road? That was OK

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the one - on the main road. We plan lunch there for Friday before we go in, so we have at least one decent meal during the weekend. :-)

There's a pub down by the seafront which has a pool table (or at least did last year) and doesn't have a big screen telly - can't remember what it's called, but left out of the main entrance, across the green and down past the Camber Cafe, it's on the left as you get to the dunes. This might suit everyone?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I will be wearing a burn-it-into-your-eyeballs red tshirt with a Plaid logo (IE a circle) one of the days. Hair like a mushroom cloud.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Right. I leave work in 3 mins and probably won't be checking back in until tuesday next week. I have major butterflies in my tummy about this weekend. There's a picture of me on the ILE what do you look like thread (which I can't find at the mo. It's near the bottom, all yellowy). I may be wearing glasses. I will def be wearing white top. if you can focus properly, come up and say hello.

Enjoy!

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) etc.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Five foot seven or eight. Short dark hair. Glasses, bearded. Turnons include wearing band T-shirts and smuggling bottles of suspicious beer into holiday camp pubs.

This will prove to be almost no help, I imagine :(

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

This is new - planning wardrobes before a festival :-/

I'll be wearing a crap t-shirt (that's a blue t-shirt with "Crap!" written across the front :-P).

Did we agree on the pub aldo mentioned that's 'down by the seafront which has a pool table (or at least did last year) and doesn't have a big screen telly - can't remember what it's called, but left out of the main entrance, across the green and down past the Camber Cafe, it's on the left as you get to the dunes'?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, now you've written that down I realise it's right out of the main entrance. Cartography and directions were never my strong point (which some people who know me well enough will find ironic).

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck you limey faggots.

make sure to go see double leopards, they will eat your face.

tell brian chippendale i say to hurry up with ninja #4.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm getting pretty excited now.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Double Leopards is the other weekend so fuck YOU ;)

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 25 March 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm up for a FAP.
I've got long brownish hair, quite curly, and I'll be standing next to Mencap :-)

― mei (mei), Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll be there. can anyone figure out what this pub is called? i'll be happy to meet people for drinks whenever.

i'm also going to be on limited email from tomorrow early, if you want to meet up (and/or people would like me to be a bit of a social director), email your mobile numbers to me at my hotmail address. helpful if you put a subject of something like ILX ATP, so i don't miss you.

um, i'm so so excited.

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm quite up for a FAP, but probably won't be organised enough to manage finding the pub. Or remembering when the FAP is. Or, well, anything. But I look forward to possibly seeing some of you anyway!

(eeee ATP eeeeeeee!)

― cis (cis), Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't find what this pub is called, only remember the Fungi From Yuggoth in the gents toilet two years ago.

OK, back to plan A - Queen Vic, before Mike Watt's first set, Saturday lunchtime (so from about 12). Andrew, I doubt they'll bother to put on the Leeds match so you should be OK.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

cis-- send me your phone number so we can meet up!

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 25 March 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Just emailed u my phone no. Colette, I can bring along a couple of other ILXors too.

― mei (mei), Thursday, 25 March 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i apologise for being a crap social director. i only managed to meet up with cis and andrew farrell, who managed to dazzle me by doing the worm. the actual worm!

and poor cis was bribed with the O.C. and instead ended up playing drinking games to the big lebowski.

oh, and there were bands as well. :)

did everyone else have fun? or are you all still asleep?

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I had lots of fun thank you, and apologise for not even coming close to meeting up with anyone on here who I didn't already know, but it was always an outside bet... here are some brief thoughts:

Envy - good, would have liked to see more of them but we only got in at about 3
AMT - should just become an all-out stoner rock band, to be honest
Growing - good, but not today thanks
Converge - excellent. Didn't at all go down like a sack of jism
Isis - I think I enjoyed them but I couldn't say anything specific about their set
Turbonegro - worth having my trousers ruined for. If you didn't watch them you are weak
Mogwai - see Isis. I was a lurching mess by this juncture
Cex - quite funny
Kid606 - great

Mike Watt's covers band thing - fun, no less so for his rocking of the gay southern trucker look. Hid guitarist, who was apparently in Slovenly, sold my friend drugs
Boredoms - vacillated between noisy aceness and town centre drum circle
Dishes - quite good. Singer appeared totally wasted
The Seconds - fantastic. YYYS should give up the day job
Lungfish - perversely entertaining endurance test
Mike Watt's other thing - enjoyable
Bobby Conn - kill the violin player
Lightning Bolt - amazing to witness live, by all accounts an utter waste of time for everyone in the room save the 150-200 cloest people by the soundboard where they set up. Happily I was one of that number
Tortoise - I was in the room, that's about all I can tell you

Lightning Bolt outside their chalet, midday Sunday - more brilliance. The drummer is not of this earth
Shellac, 12.45pm - very good, lamented their own fuckups on a few occasions but meh. Played for half an hour less than advertised
Stinking Lizaveta - underappreciated brilliant turn of the festival, and an object lesson to anyone over 30 who thinks it their duty to conduct themselves in public with some sort of dignity.
Dead Meadow - maybe another time, fellas; take it somewhere else for now
McLusky - excellent and funny. Swelled my chest
Arcwelder - wish I knew what I'm missing about this band, it continues to escape me
Shellac - 10.45pm - breathtaking. Save for wondering what, in this day and age, they do to deserve an audience containing so many unfunny wankers, that's all I have to say

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Failed to meet anyone. Ho hum. (Although I was in the Queen Vic before the first Mike Watt set, I didn't recognise anyone.)

Anyway, the bands:

Todd might well have been great, had we been able to hear the second guitarist. Instead, it ends up sounding like bad shouting - a tramp fronting The Rock Band Gay Dad, with the woman out of Ring making electronic noises (although she was nice when I spoke to her later in the weekend).
Envy are the Japanese Sigur Ros (actually, not 5 minutes after I've said this my friend Jeff hears someone else say so too), but in a good way. I mean they take the good bits of their sound, and drop the new-agey wimpiness in favour of volume. They are the best thing today.
Pete Kember looks unbelievably old. Because Envy are so good I miss him completely.
Part Chimp are on Mogwai's label. This may well tell you all you need to know about them. They got better, apparently, but I don't know this because I've gone downstairs to watch...
Acid Mothers Temple . A bit more free-psych than most people could stomach, and the madrigals provoke some chin-scratching. I really enjoyed them, but can't see me buying any of their records. Go figure.
Converge make me laugh. "We're the most agressive band you're going to see all weekend, but thanks for taking the time to listen anyway." Right... so why do you sound like a third rate grindcore band fronted by Joe Pasquale? Honestly, the guy sounds like Lee Dorrian on helium. I can't take this seriously at all so head downstairs for Growing, which seems to be two guys tuning up. 10 minutes later it still is. Needs more patience than I had at that point, I think.
I like the James Orr Complex a lot. I'm not sure how they fit into the bill here exactly, but Chris' Nick-Drake-stylings come across well, even if the room is half empty.
ISIS are brilliant for about 5 minutes, where they sound like the missing link between Godflesh and Neurosis. Then, inexplicably, the speakers which are about halfway back go off. ISIS then sound like your flatmate playing Godflesh next door. This is not a good thing. It does not get fixed by the venue either. :-/
TurboNegro are excellent, although I'm not quite sure why. Drinking all day may have had something to do with it. TurboNegro are the band The Darkness want to be. OK, they're the band The Darkness would want to be if they were gay. And wanted their audience to chant "I Got Erection" at them. In the toilets afterwards I chat briefly to a guy who is trying to get stage blood out of his "£200 jacket" then reminisce with another chap about leaving GWAR shows covered in fake blood and semen. Ah, happy days. :-)
Mogwai are much better than they were on their last tour, although they appear to be playing mainly the same songs. I'm not sure why this is although, again, I suspect drinking is a factor. Mysteriously, the side speakers come back on for Mogwai. I'm sure this is a coincidence and not a cynical ploy on their part. Honest.

Saturday starts in the Queen Vic waiting for Mike Watt to start. Mark Viduka misses one of the easiest tap-ins you'll ever see on a football pitch, and we all laugh. Are we really drinking already? After all the promises on previous years?
The Tom & Jerry Show are a Mike Watt covers project. They do a version of Caroline Says which sounds like Neil Diamond (or at least Watt's singing does) and is the best part of their set.
No sooner has the phrase "they're much less mental than they used to be" passed my lips than a painful blast of electronic squelches announce Boredoms are going to start. Obviously I meant less mental than the I Am Cola period, because Boredoms are still pretty mental. They do two 40 minute songs, and piss all over everything else all weekend.
On the back of that, nothing else on Saturday makes much sense and I don't spend more than 10 minutes watching any of it. Lightning Bolt might have been good, but decide to set up in the bar instead of onstage and, as a result, you can't see or hear them. I go back to the chalet and launch a tirade of profanity at the television/the Vicar Of Dibley. Third best sitcom ever ? Phillip Roebuck plays an impromtu set in front of the Queen Vic which, happily, is right outside our chalet.

I start Sunday with a walk on the beach, and by buying the most bizarre sweet I can find in the big shop, which turns out to be a roll-on deodorant for your tongue, filled with some sour sugary liquid. I consume all 9 'servings', which gives me a sugar buzz which lasts till the early evening. God knows how children cope. That said, going for a walk meant I missed the first Lightning Bolt set of the day, which takes place inside their chalet.
Shellac have a nice first set, though quite why they thought starting with a 10 minute no-wave drone piece was a good idea was anyone's guess. "We've just played Ghosts . Are you one of those guys who sits at home and reads CD covers rather than playing them?"
The timetable for the downstairs ends up screwed because Luke Haines has cancelled, but isn't helped by Shellac finishing half an hour early. I still manage to catch most of French Toast though, who are very nice in a Dischord type way. Which might be what you'd expect.
Phillip Roebuck plays his actual set, and very good it is too. This year's Lonesome Organist, except that you'd actually listen to his stuff for more than the novelty value, probably. Is it bluegrass? Possibly. No, make that probably.
A Whisper In The Noise actually turn out to be very good. I tell their drummer later on their website is shit, which he concedes might well be the case. They're a bit schizophrenic, moving from sub-dronerock to quiet piano pieces, but I bought a CD of theirs anyway (although that was pretty much just because it came in a really nice wooden box).
AtomBombPocketKnife are a little disappointing. I expected big things, and they're merely average math-rock.
I'm surprised then, when Dead Meadow completely blow them away with sludgecore. Stoner to the maximum. Albini says they run with the riff Blue Cheer picked up and Budgie dropped. He's not wrong.
An Irish guy in the merchandising asks Stinking Lizaveta what they sound like. When they can't really explain (nor can I, despite seeing a bit of them) he leaves, but not before offering "It's a good job you've got a catchy name then." I found this funny, which in retrospect might have been a sign that I'd been drinking all day.
Azita should have been on the Tortoise day, which is a bit obvious considering she's backed by half of them. Cocktail jazz with astonishing facial contortions, which gave a nice bit of colour to the day. The chicken afterwards was the best Pontins have produced yet, but was still rubbish. Why do I buy it every year?
McLusky are far better than I thought they would be. In fact, I need to buy some of their albums. The Welsh Big Black? Possibly.
I really wish I could watch all of Uzeda . The Sicillian Jesus Lizard, but with a woman singer. Instead I have to go upstairs for...
Shellac . Much of the same. You don't need me to tell you how good they are, or what they sound like, because you know.

I vaguely remember someone else playing outside at some point after Shellac. It was probably Lightning Bolt.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow - we had quite different experiencse at the festival.

Trans Am - Was a nice idea 10 years ago.
James Orr complex - Sing louder and be less like Jim O'Rourke. Good though.
Turbo Negro - Fucking Rubbish. Uglier than the darkness in all ways imaginable.
Cat Power - You know when you put a bunch of ice cubes into water and they crack and freeze together. Imagine that happening to your ribs. oh yes.
Mogwai - I just do not get why this band are considered good. their popularity mystifies me.

Bordeoms - Boredoms. Should have been amazing but there was just no invention of any kind.
The Dishes - Ok in a a less interesting breeders kind of way. Passed the time without pissing me off too much. Would never buy their records.
Prefuse 73 - Flawless. Imagine instrumental Hip Hop they way you always wanted it to be. absolute GENIUS.
Bobby Conn - Utterly pointless
Sun City Girls - the biggest let down of the festival. Managed to sway between boring ry cooder esque desert instrumentals and crappy skronk.
Lightning Bolt - Amazing. Too much for me by this point though.
Tortoise - As dull as expected.

Shellac - I will spend the rest of my life trying to do this band justice in whatever way I can.
A Whisper in the noise - exactly what I was in the mood for. Very sad, so full of shame and longing. A total pleasure.
Botnledga - Cool. Really fun. tight, fast, punk, skronk, tee hee.
Mclusky - New songs are a big step backwards. Why the fuck can't they just accept the fact that they are awesome at writing lyrically and sonically cutting, catchy and fucking songs.
Shellac - Best band on the planet. No questions please.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like the fact that everyone was at completely different festivals.

Friday: Acid Mothers Temple is fine drone nonsense, but why has no-one mentioned that their mentalist bassist, during his funny-voices rampage, started singing Steeleye Span? It was great.

Converge is a sack of jism, I'm afraid.

Growing sounded great, in a really slow tuning up sort of way. This is not the sort of stuff I'm usually into, but it seemed like a brilliant idea at the time.

I was at the wrong spot at Papa M, and most of what he was singing was too loud/reverby and just hurt my ears. Why was the sound so shit downstairs on Friday?

Isis seemed like fun, if you liked your riffage. Shame the vocalist mike wasn't on.

I was waiting outside Turbonegro to find my mates, and when they started, everyone left. Then they finished the first song, and everyone else left. I don't honestly know why those people were there, the description in the booklet was unusually accurate.

Cat Power = quiet, Mogwai = loud. Myself and cis were apparently in the only sound black hole in the whole venue, and it sounded meh. Mogwai usually sound meh to me, to be fair.

John Peel can play anything, because he's John Peel. On the other hand, he did play Chicago Hardcode, so that's okay.

Kid606 destroyed everything before him. He also called out any and all members of Mogwai present, who he claimed were asleep with their girlfriends.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Converge really were fucking awful. I cannot emphasise this enough. I will post a fuller review later when I feel a little less monged.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Saturday: The Boredoms were pretty impressive in three facing drumkits and a mentalist format, but just before everything ascended to heave, our vegan mate collapsed and we had to drag him over to the fire door. Which we weren't allowed open.

Lungfish were pretty steady riffage (average one key per song) with entertaining tramp telling over the front.

Lightning Bolt's gimmick (never playing on an elevated stage) is just shit, and when I got close enough to hear them, so were they. Metal wank.

Sun City Girls were pretty entertaining, including a mariachi song with "color" interjections by the drummer that gave me A Mighty Wind flashbacks. Plus one of them looks like a pirate.

I slept back at the chalet during Tortoise, as I imagine I would have done so at the venue.

Sunday:

Shellac are so good. They make playing difficult stuff adult-sexy instead of adult-grownup. Also the drummer balanced a cymbal on his head while hammering away at it.

No Luke Haines. Anyone know why?

Entrance announces early on that he's completely drugged out, due to his handlers attitude being "Must feed the drug-child". He's still pretty good in an early White Stripes way.

Stinking Lizaveta like the rock and the rock posturing. They are ridiculous and brilliant.

Dead Meadow are a fine indie band. The Warlocks do it better, but not by much.

Azita has a piano. I fled.

McLusky's bassist loses the rubber band that secures his glasses pretty early on, and gets the roadie to tear them off a strip of gaffer tape to do the job. IT doesn't quite stretch, so he gets a longer bit that goes right round and obstructs 90% of his vision. It's about then that the gig goes from a lot of fun to complete frenzy. I can definitely see ways in which it could be better, but our entire chalet descended like locusts on the merchandising stall afterwards.

I couldn't have been in far enough to fully enjoy Shellac, and still breath. Which is a shame, but I had fun sitting at the edge anyway.

I met Ricky a few times, but more or less in passing every time. It was grebt to meet cis, and The Lady C-. Sorry I didn't meet the rest of yez.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ricky OTM. Any views from cis?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew,

I think AMT suddenly starting Gaudete out of the blue was one of the most unlikely things I saw all weekend, yes. Particularly when the bassist decided he was going to do all the different bits.

Reading the above, does anyone actually like Tortoise? :-)

No idea why Luke Haines cancelled, no. Does anyone know why Shellac played twice?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

So who's going to Weekend 2? I'll be there from about midday on Saturday...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly they were trying to get a big-name headliner (THE PIXES) until quite late, then decided they'd do it themselves. They prefer (and are better in) the first-thing-second-stage slot, which is why they played it all three days when they were curating.

Or maybe they were worried that people might get damaged trying to get in to the first one?

They did finish a half-hour early on the second stage, it was strage but I can't say I wasn't happy by then.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Also: I am declaring the question in the title settled.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Shellac played twice because they could. I was very glad of this, cos it meant I got to see them in the relatively civilised environment of the downstairs room.

Tortoise = meh. I liked the first record, but after that...

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My chaletmates (Post Rock Casualties of the highest order) enjoyed Tortoise.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Even in the humid heat fog of horror?

I swear to god it wasn't that hot in the main room four years ago.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The state of my shirt afterwards was unbelievable, although I was dancing like a twat the whole time to be fair

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to the 2nd weekend. but somehow I have to meet my friends at in London at 9.30 on friday.. this involves getting up at 6 to make it down there in time.. yikes. don't know how i'm going to stay awake on friday night.

nb, I haven't been up before 8am for at least a year.

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I managed to miss the OC on Monday as well. o no my life is a barren waste without cheesy US teendrama o no!

The heat was fucking horrendous: people in front of me at Tortoise (before I wandered off to fall asleep round the side) were fainting all over the place, can't think what it would have been like up front for Shellac. Walking into the upstairs room, all that stale humid air and that smell just hitting you in the face... gah.

Wish we'd been somewhere where the sound was actually good for Mogwai, cuz according to all reports (from my postrockista mates) they were fantastic, and Helicon 1 did sound gorgeous; was in just the right place for Lightning Bolt, both times, and MY GOD THEY ROCK; Whisper in the Noise were lovely, and their record's pretty damn decent. The Boredoms were just incredible, I'm trying to work out whether I can afford to get a toutticket to see them and Lightning Bolt tonight. Find of the festval, for me.

And then there were some bands I quite liked, and some bands which were meh, and some bands which were TRULY AWFUL, but that's less important than the fact that it was sunny and there was a beach and eeeeee.

― cis (cis), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

''Sun City Girls were pretty entertaining, including a mariachi song with "color" interjections by the drummer that gave me A Mighty Wind flashbacks. Plus one of them looks like a pirate.''

I think I hate you.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Sun City Girls - the biggest let down of the festival. Managed to sway between boring ry cooder esque desert instrumentals and crappy skronk.

please say it isn't true.

they are playing philly the 12th. i'm hoping for an out of body experience.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not that inaccurate. Lurched between very, very straight mariachi twiddles to impenetrable skronk.

They were very good at both of them, but not what I expected really. Or particularly wanted to hear. The skronk in particular seemed massively pointless in places.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we get more people complaining that they couldn't see or hear Lightning Bolt? It pleases me.

― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Lightning Bolt. They were fantastic, and fuck all the hataz.

Also, I'd like to give props to The Seconds (for being the best no-wave tribute band I've ever seen), Turbonegro (for making a joke about finding The Diary Of Anne Frank under the floorboard in their chalet, and then drenching all my friends in fake blood), and Shellac. Does anyone know what that Shellac song where Steve keeps going "Is this thing on?" Because it was great.

― Jason J, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, they're the band The Darkness would want to be if they were gay.

You mean if "The Darkness pretended to be gay"

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Turbo Negro - Fucking Rubbish. Uglier than the darkness in all ways imaginable.
Cat Power - You know when you put a bunch of ice cubes into water and they crack and freeze together. Imagine that happening to your ribs. oh yes.
-- hmmm (hmm...), March 30th, 2004.

Now I KNOW you're lying: these were on at the same time, sure you could have seen a bit of each, but you'd have missed most of at least one of them, so your judgment is a as solid as piss-sodden tissue paper.

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Lightning Bolt's gimmick (never playing on an elevated stage) is just shit, and when I got close enough to hear them, so were they. Metal wank.

Lightining Bolt metal? You're joking right? You don't really think that?

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a new song, they played it in the morning too.

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just remembered, and linked to the 'A Mighty Wind' reference to the Sun City Girls above - at one point during their set I turned to my mate and said "Over there on the bass is Derek Smalls, he wrote this one." Yup, it sounded like a parody of what skronk might sound like by people who didn't understand what it was supposed to sound like.

Of course, I wouldn't have been watching them had Lightning Bolt been audible to anyone who wasn't in the corner with them.

And yes, I did forget to mention the Seconds, who were a lot of fun and a better band than the 'proper' bands of the people in it.

The Shellac track was a new thing - when they did it in the morning my befuddled state combined with Albini's apparent concern actually did make me think he couldn't hear his microphone. Still, his g/f thinks mistakes are sexy so I was probably in her good books at that point.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I heard that Derek Smalls thing! Mind you there can't have been much over 100 people there.

Yes, Lightning Bolt are Metal. But I think it's more important that we concentrate on the "Wank" side.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Huh? Metal? No precision, no power chords, no demons/war/shagging, no angst or anger etc.

Why do you say it's metal?

I dspeak as a fan of both Lightning Bolt and Heavy Metal BTW.

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I gave TN 2 songs. I stand by my judgement.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

[That looks shit without italics but I don't know how to do them yet. Apologies.]

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do you say it's metal?

Guitar tapping innit. Nothing else that qualifies it, but still.

The new Shellac song is just called 'Radio', I think he said.

Brian Chase from The Seconds and the Yeah Yeah Yeah's was perhaps the nicest and friendliest new person I met at the weekend. Respect to him.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Do view source for this:

italics

and you'll see how to do it!

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm fairly sure no one said the title of that new song, but I'd guess 'The End of Radio'.

Not announcing it was part of why it was so brilliant!

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

*tap, tap, tap*

"Is this thing on?"

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I reckon one of the other songs they played was even better, the one with even more drumming and less guitars than usual.

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Fucking hell Shellac.

I didn't think music could be that good.

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Me neither.

mei - was going to do that but am pushed for time at work right now. ta tho.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Mencap, the only two finger tapping I've seen (heard) before on bass is in jazz, except for Billy Sheehan - Mr Big, Steve Vai band etc. - and that's definitely Hard Rock, not Metal - see concurrent thread and big hair!

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

That is true. Although when you have a band *only* composed of rhythm instruments it kind of puts it in a different context... ah fuck it. He can call it Britpop for all I care

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonic Boom did what he always did: acted as an operator to his analogue synths. They faced into the audience, he stood with his back to us. Nice, but not earth shattering.

Acid Mothers Temple didn't quite click. Madrigally just great, some of the acid rocky stuff didn't gel properly.

Growing sent me into a very weird trance like state which took me a good hour to shake off.

Converge were utter shite and sounded like 80000 other fifth rate hardcore band.

Papa M: too many people talking and I don't think he should sing anyway

ISIS: truly, shockingly good. YMO'F passed me on the stairs saying they were just metal. They were metal, but EXTREMELY good, once you got close enough to them to tolerate the fucked sound. Directly responsible for me wibbling on abt the idea of post metal (like DI/Seefeel postrock NOT Slint/Tortoise postrock) to Cis later.

Turbonegro, you know the score by now.

Last time I saw Mogwai I fell asleep. Fuck knows what's happened to them in the interim but they were excellent. Greatest hits set, they even played Superheroes of BMX

It's very difficult to be shit when you've got three excellent drummers, and the Boredoms didn't manage it. Very nearly the best band of the weekend.

Seconds: just too disjointed for me to get.

Lungfish: hurrah hurrah. If I was 15 again they'd be my favourite band. As it is, they are merely fab.

Mike Watt with keyboards and no guitar is a bad plan.

I thought the Sun City Girls were extremely entertaining. Skronk + mariachi + some other odd beardstrokey worldish stuff + garage rock mixed up in very short bursts = much fun indeed. The only slight downer was the dubious choice of hats.

I don't see the point of Tortoise any more.

A Whisper Of Noise sounded a lot like Radiohead in places. This was more of a good than a bad thing, kind of surprisingly.

I was very distracted by Atombombpocketknife's bassist.

Bouncy icelandic hardcore chaps Bontledja made me very happy. Utter loons and all the better for it.

McLusky sounded like hacks after Bontledja.

Arcwelder were nearly great, but sabotaged by the drummers vocal mike.

Shellac were great in the morning, that radio song especially, but went off into doing overly-long instrumental trudge in the evening. When you are suffering in the heat fog of doom you need something to keep you awake and their more drawn out stuff is definitely not it.

I saw some other people but have forgotten who they were. More later when I've got my programme on me.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno if you were there for the joke about promoters being legally required to advertise "DJ John Peel Fucked Up On Cider".

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I missed that.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It means nothing to me... I'm also liking the fact that there is still almost no commonality of opinion to speak of.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

But Ricardo, Converge were GREAT! Like a billion other HC bands but also metal and post-pnk-metal. Yay!

Isis were a bit dull, not as good as on their previous tour, and didn't you notice the huge gap in the middle? Don't you think that spoiled it just a little bit?

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I only saw the second half of Isis.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"Should have been amazing but there was just no invention of any kind."

oh no not another drum trio w/ electronics and shouting, how passe

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i am curious what was the male: female ratio at ATP weekend1?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

7.32:1

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It was 4:2 in our chalet. I imagine it was higher than Tortoise's year, lower than both Mogwai/Shellac.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember a lot more girls the Shellac year.

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember a lot more shellac the shellac year.

One thing that I did which was utterly awesome was to head along the coast a bit on the saturday morning in our hire car. About 10 miles east, by the power station, is one of the most amazing places I've been to. Totally flat, shingle all around, old boats, old boat shells, big bits of rusted machinery, bigger bits of even more rusted machinery that look like they have survived a nuclear ttack, fishermen's shacks and wee timber houses. We got fresh and smoked fish from one of them. Another one of them used to be owned by Derek Jarman and still has the garden he made.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool!

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

farrell you are insane! lightning bolt are phenomenal. granted my mileage varies w. them on record but, I mean '100 things to do before you moulder - #64 - go to the front of a lightning bolt concert.'

fiery furnaces were again amazing. 'fancy some elidor, eleanour?' (in-joke for the observant ATP goer. haha those posters!)

love made me so happy.

lcd soundsystem were banging even if listening does feel like when you stand in between two mirrors.

dizzee rascal!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, you're not really insane.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

lots of good stories.

my favourite moment of the festival was smiling and making eye contact w. a japanese boy, after he'd watched me watch him playing pool w. his gf earlier, when he was giving his asleep gf a piggy back home at 3am on sunday.

there was a guy in the vic on the sunday dancing and reading a book at the same time. can anyone explain this to me?

etc etc

― cozemo (Cozen), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

he was drunk... for some reason he started wacking the book on the floor and stampig on it. And some guys were throwing lil' chinese firecrackers on the dancefloor of the pub.

Kathleen Hanna looked great. Really great.
Explosions In The Sky were my favourite new discovery.
Carla Bozulich was also a treat.

ESG! ESG! ESG!
LCD followed by Dizzee was a perfect ending, except I then went and danced till whenever. Also next to the dude reading a book and also dancing.

― Nik (Nik), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, bozulich was good. I liked the way she smiled at all her own jokes and morbid lines.

I dunno about that bookdancing guy; I was right next to him and he had a patch on. did you see the bit on saturday night when someone starting pulling the panelling off the pub dancefloor's roof?!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

erm, no... but i saw that amazing karoake of "I Will Survive" and also those two pretty wasted guys, falling over the place doing "Jump" by Van Halen

On Friday, I saw some guy was hanging - oranguatan style - off the top of the wood pannelling that frames the stage/dancefloor in the pub.

― Nik (Nik), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i got some pictures

― Nik (Nik), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

That Le Tigre pic is strangely hypnotic.

I thought Dizzee and Har Mar were just DJing? Cool.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

hey that was our chalet in the first pic...the one with the bike in front of the door. where you next to us?

― thomas, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

no, i was some way away. I took that when i was hanging out in front of the pub.

why did you have a bike there?

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah it was very conveniently located, never been that close to the main building before.
the bike was my friend's so he could bike it from and back to Rye to avoid the bus and taxi queue dramas :)

what a great weekend...

― thomas, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

This weekend, last year's Autechre curated and the Tortoise curated one have been my favourites.

I'm a bit gutted that the Explosions in the Sky and Black Dice records I've listened to this morning haven't really clicked, especially I throughly enjoyed both their sets.

Favourite bits: watching the Notwist and over-excited young dude shouts out between songs, "This Is Brilliant!!!"

And the fact that Explosions In the Sky were standing behind me watching Dizzee.

Rememeber Jackie-O Motherfucker setting up, all the while smoking away as gut with the yellow hoodie handed out his cigarettes? I lent him the 10p he was short when he bought them in the supermarket. I had no idea who he was.

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

LCD/James Murphy - wankers made more wankerish by the fact they played the set of the weekend. Brilliant. But annoying.

What did everyone else make of their late-show, rubbish explanation, 'you're needling me like my mother' bollocks?

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't James Murphy explain away their tardiness by saying that one of the band was having a shit? Then he had a go by saying those who were whinging could go to upstairs!

His faux-self-deprecating "You'll here to have a good time no, but you'll forget about us by next week" aside was grating.

But when they got finally started, it was fantastic. No "Yeah", though.

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If I may, can I ask for more Malk/SY/Fiery Furnaces tidbits? Sometimes I sob at night thinking of what I have missed.

― John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonic Youth were absolutely amazing. I wasn't really a fan before the festival, and I was expecting them to be standoffish for their set. But they were brilliant. The best bit of the set was when some random bloke managed to get on stage. He stayed there for a bit, when the security lot hadn't just realised that he was there. Then he tried to tackle Thurston, while he was still playing, and Thurston fought back in a friendly sort of way.
When a couple of security guys came on stage, they just joined in. It was just so funny to watch.

I wasn't that impressed with the Fiery Furnaces though. Just saw a bit of a song, and then went to see Nina Nastasia

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I was asleep when SY played; as has become an ATP tradition for me: falling alseep and missing most of Saturday night.

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

my photos are up now.. http://www.nunuworldmusic.co.uk/atp2004/index.html

the room during lightning bolt
http://www.nunuworldmusic.co.uk/photos/atp2004saturday/lightningbolt5.jpg

Sonic Youth
http://www.nunuworldmusic.co.uk/photos/atp2004saturday/sonicyouth1.jpg Kim looked so good.

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

shit that links wrong
http://www.nunuworldmusic.co.uk/photos/atp2004/

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nunuworldmusic.co.uk/photos/atp2004/index.html

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, you realised

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i blame it on only having slept for about 20 hours in the last 5 days

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i blame falling asleep on missing sonic youth; or the other way around

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm annoyed i fell asleep and missed belle and sebastian djing

saw one of them walking round on the sunday

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha the guy in the green shirt in the lightning bolt photo (right in the middle) is my flatmate sam! I was right at the front.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i might have a photo with you in it too! though my aim towards the front wasn't as good.. i only ended with 2 photos with bits of lightning bolt in them (the 2 on the site)

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

and in lightningbolt4.jpg the guy's head just below the cimbal is my flatmate simon!

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Band/Event of the w/end - Dream Aktion Unit (Moore/O'Rourke/Flaherty/Corsano) - 45 mins of the most horrendous beautiful out-noize blasting you ever did hear - towards the end, Thurston had bathed himself in so much impossibly loud feedback/electrical hum that he seemed to enter a kind of trance state, and ended the set w/ his eyes shut, his whole body vibrating - just sublime

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

He was also wanking a drum stick onto his guitar but that doesn't make him sound as cool.

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It does to me!

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man, that place is so great, when i'm old and don't want to be around people any more (ie next year) i'm going to live there. beside the power station is a miniature steam railway station, with carriages just big enough to sit in, one of which has a little bar attached. they sell their own specially made beer, and you can drink it while steaming up the coast for a few miles. the perfect hangover cure!

― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It just made me think of really bad explanations of art-noise. Made a good racket though.

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Mei - we are so going to the power station next year

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think i need to learn to drive by next year. Those hour waits for the bus was annoying, and save the friction burns on my hands.

― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

haha 'indie blahsters'!!! : )

actually, andrew, my friend saw dream aktion unit and he said they were phenomenal; my mileage varies w. this kind of music (haha not that I know what it actually um is) in such a weldingly hot live context [this ws a problem w. a lot of the bands that played], but if they put out a record...

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes Mencap, I'm way ahead of you.

And Chris is giving us a lift/I'm giving him one so we don't get lost (again).

But will you be taking lots of drugs, do you thiunk?

― mei (mei), Friday, 9 April 2004 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

right, here's the thing. I swear that halfway through mission of burma's set the main guy's suit jacket (the guy with the tinnitus and headphones) started developing a blocky, angular brown pattern, as if it was some weird suit version of global hypercolor. have I just imagineered this?

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 April 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Cozen, I was right in front of ROGER MILLER during Burma's set and I didn't see that suit effect - but maybe I was too distracted by all his facial gurning to notice. I did take some pics, but they were in b+w and I haven't got them developed yet either...

I'm still sort've haunted by that Marianne Faithfull cover that Carla and Nels ended their set w/

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 11 April 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

If it was the same jacket he was wearing at the ICA gig the next night it did have a weird angular pattern on it.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 11 April 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

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