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"Generic Rap Song by Princeton student. An excellent undergrad piece that lampoons the current state of rap music. Includes a satirical rap song (complete with downloadable MP3, streaming audio, downloadable DivX video, and streaming RealVideo) and an analysis of each verse. Even an essay that compares the satire in the piece with some 200 year-old satire ("A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift). Amazing, accurate, and funny as all get out."

I saw this posted elsewhere and thought some of you would be interested. Because of my computer limitations, I haven't seen the video or heard the song, so I'm passing this on to yous and I'll check back later to see what you have to say.

http://www.princeton.edu/~rmoore/punit/

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 16 January 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Not funny cause it's crap, unlike the mighty 50 Pence.

― JoB (JoB), Friday, 16 January 2004 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Why was Fifty Cent played by one of Keenan and Kel?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

rappers be rappin!!!

― custos goes to princeton???, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

blah blah you racist pieces of shit blah blah though i would like to ask how theyre pretending to champion originality by repeating all the oldest white-ppl jokes abt famous rappers

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean whats next, questioning the accurate usage of 'irony' by alanis morrisette??? pointing out that john lennon said imagine no possessions when he was actually quite wealthy?? n'sync-- MORE LIKE N STINK!!!!

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

blah blah blah you racist pieces of shit

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

That dude should definitely hire himself out as a Chingy tribute act, though, he's got the voice dead on. Do they have Stars In Their Eyes in the States?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha those guys are funny ha ha

― tsar cash shtick (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

FFS Trife, "lazy analysis" != "racism". If you want to bolster your point, why not point out some supporting examples that actually have something to do with racism?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

blah blah blah if it attacks rap in any way it's clueless blah blah blah anybody who doesn't like rap is an asshole blah blah blah when rappers recycle ages-old jokes for their skits it's hatin' on 'em if you say it's not funny but when college kids do the same thing it's racism, "rock and roll/rap will never die" etc

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

yes dan bcz obv i was being deadly serious when i preceded the word racist with blah blah blah

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I think this would annoy me a lot more if they were attempting to parody any rappers I liked.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

parody only works when a. it's saying something new and/or b. it's any fucking good

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean my god he called it "Generic Rap Song"!!

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah really this is almost just a parody of college students making fun of rap

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Totally.

this shite : A Modest Proposal :: masturbating to the landolakes girl :: actual sex

x-post ha ha

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

my fratboy co worker yesterday-- 'you know, im all for recognizing GOOD rappers... but you wont ever hear them on the radio!'

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Sean Paul has two major follies that make him the easiest target in this song. First, he claims to be of Jamaican descent, although he's obviously white (and is often shown in poor lighting to compensate-- see "Baby Boy" Music Video, ACD Data Track). Second, his lyrics are virtually indecipherable as a result of his thick "JAmaican" accent and the speed at which he delivers them.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

parody only works when a. it's saying something new

Seriously?

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

haha you know if you take the c at the end of "generic" and stick it at the beginning of the next word you get "crap"!! which rhymes with "rap"!! i think that was intentional!!

― tweemu (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

thomas you left out part b. there

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

this sounds horrible, yet I wish I could hear it on this computer, kind of a staring-at-an-accident thing

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

(See? GWB being produced by an Ivy League school doesn't seem so far-fetched now, does it?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"See my success—does it make you sickened?
Hope not, cause a new single hits this weekend"

This is too shit to be funny even as a parody. I'm very lowbrow so I should know what I'm talking about

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 January 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

oh my god i just read the pdf file

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

plz share for those of us without acrobat on our 900 year old hamster wheels

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

just the highlights plz

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"P. Diddy gets the final words in “Generic Rap Song” by plugging his rap label at the last possible second, when the listener least expects it. This joke hits even harder in the video, as Diddy appears even after the closing “credit” has been shown in the bottom
left corner and the video has faded to black. It appears as though even P. Diddy was startled by this final plug, as he is clearly making it from the comfort of a toilet stall."

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"After a few minutes of the same old song, J-Lo flips over and reveals her true “talent”-- an inhumanely large backside. It is soon revealed that this particular hook in fact stars “J-Lo’s Ass” rather than J-Lo herself. This is a directorial attack on rap videos in general, which often contain extended shots of large female backsides that are built to look as though their existences are simply coincidental. Here, the fact that the ass is meant to be shown is brought out into the open, and the viewer has a few seconds to realize that this really isn’t much different than most real rap videos."

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I just read the WHOLE FUCKING THING. *shares pain*

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

inhumanely!!

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"inhumanely"?!!

(xp!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"her cruelly large backside"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i am suddenly even more embarassed for my whole race than usual

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

but hey, if these white boys dont want all their fat-assed white sisters, ship em on over to fiddo

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

It's like they took a satire seminar and parrotted back some basic tenets through a gigantic filter of dumm.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

and you can buy the "companion paper" as a book!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Ego Trip Guide To Dumbass College Freshmen"

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

im sorry im still in awe of this....

If I didn’t have Dre’s beats would you still love me?
If it wasn’t for Eminem, who would this thug be?
If I ain’t have bullet scars would I still be on MTV?
Don’t tell no one, but one of em is from my appendectomy
Answer these questions, world, that’s why they’re written
I love you like a black dude love fried chicken
See my success—does it make you sickened?
Hope not, cause a new single hits this weekend

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

oh god if you read the paper it's so much worse than you can imagine....totally racist shit.....I'll try to do some highlights later but I don't have time now....I can't believe this shit would fly in a university....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Help me make this The Most Depressing Thread Evah

― tweemu (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"The “fried chicken” line, which may seem out of place, actually parodies this line, which appears in “21 Questions” (2:26)"

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

oops xpost but jesus.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

in the credits section:

"Emma Stachowicz, for the goldmine of ethnic clothing"

!!!

Oh god I just read the paper oh god, the disclaimer at the start ("not to be taken seriously") just makes it that much worse.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

haha i like how the (2:26) makes it seem like a bible quote

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

it gets worse and worse the more you read! maybe this IS actually some sort of meta-parody

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

THE BOOK OF FIDDY

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

God this paper is like reading a pseudo intellectual, racist Wierd Al (no offense to Wierd Al who appears to be a nice smart guy and everything)

I hope it's a parody

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"Romeo goes on to insult his own father’s rap skills and concludes by heading out to a sleepover with Michael Jackson, a one-time child star who has recently come under allegations of child molestation. While this may seem like a pointless side-attack on Michael Jackson,
Lil’ Romeo actually sampled a Jackson 5 classic for his biggest hit, “My Baby” (APC, track 6). The music video for that song contains several shots of Lil’ Romeo with a Michael Jackson look-alike (APC Data Track). In light of recent events, those scenes turn the young boy’s music into an unintentional work of satire in itself. We simply drive the point home."

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"beat a dead, possibly non-existent horse"

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

you know i think if swift were alive today i am sure he would be making michael jackson molestation jokes

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

We simply drive the point home.

drive the point home, stick it in someone's front lawn, pour gas on it, and light it on fire!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

(Serious side point: If we are supposed to embrace cultural diversity, does this mean we are not allowed to criticize/make fun of cultures we dislike? I ask because, while I see this being supremely stupid, I don't really see it as racist and I don't think it's very helpful to criticize it in that way.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

"...it was designed to epitomize everything that is bad about modern music..."

― tweemu (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

even the fried chicken line?

(xp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"Todays' mainstream music fan is conditioned, both socially and biologically, to find music with certain basic melodies and repetitive traits (like "Generic Rap Song") appealing" - no, really, NOT like "Generic Rap Song"!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The fried chicken line directly correllates to a 50 Cent line that says "I love you like a fat kid loves cake". It's a reflexive stereotyping technique that's supposed to highlight the inherent cruelty of the original line (aka "Well, how would you like it if we said THIS about YOU?").

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

dan i totally understand where youre coming from but whats your take on the sean paul is white stuff then??

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost

both socially and biologically

Dan,

what the BIOLOGICALLY supposed to mean there, though?

Also, the fried chicken (xpost) and the INHUMANELY big ass seem to be raising race as an issue - not ILM.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"The end of this verse contains a reference to a theory frequently explored in ENG231 lectures. This idea states that grammar’s power and influence in seemingly “godless” places may actually mean that grammar itself is God. In the traditional sense, rap culture could easily be interpreted as a “godless” one (or one of so many Gods that
the word has lost all meaning). Here, Sean Paul claims that, if grammar truly is God, then he must be Satan, because he betrays the rules and order of grammar like no one else in the industry."

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"they don't even speak proper like"

Oh dear.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i literally just scratched my head.

― tweemu (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it me or is spending as long as they obviously have over a paper etc, and then putting "not to be taken seriously" at the start, not terribly wise?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I call that incredibly shoddy research (and that's the only portion of this whole thing that jumps out at me as something that could credibly labelled as racist).

(xpost: When they use "biologically", I think they are saying "people respond to rhythm and sexual images", a thesis statement that I don't really have a problem with. As far as the INHUMANELY large ass comment is concerned, I took that as a reference to the ridiculous overstuffing they did in their video combined with a comment on the video directors who film women's asses through a fish-eye lens in their work.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i actually just realized what the sean paul racial accusations reminded me of--

"Don't forget you must pitch the old black versus the young black and the young black male against the old black male. You must use the dark skin slave vs. The light skin slave and the light skin slaves vs. The dark skin slaves. You must also have your white servants and overseers distrust all blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust only us."

http://www.duboislc.org/html/WillieLynch.html

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Over a paper AND a video AND some music AND a website AND the time spent studying this awful music they pretend to despise!

xpost

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

if any ilxers at princeton want to write a paper comparing 'generic rap song' to willie lynch's speech on controlling slaves you have my blessing!!

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

If they'd said "I love you like luda love chicken" then it would have been all good though.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I am forced to conclude from this that princeton cats are sensitive about fat jokes, dislike fried chicken and nice asses, and are some ignorant motherfuckers.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

im kind of disappointed this isnt going to be a 500-post monster :-/

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, its friday ppl!!

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

yikes. I had to stop at page 3. Painfully unfunny.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

What bothers me most about the paper honestly is that they feel compelled to constantly remind us that this is a work of satire. Effective works of satire don't spend 5-10 words a paragraph pointing out that they're satirical!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

but if they didn't keep telling you it was a joke, how else would you know it's supposed to be funny?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Have they actually read "A Modest Proposal", by the way, before they start comparing themselves to Swift? Because, from what I remember, "A Modest Proposal" didn't contain a poorly done cartoon drawing of an Englishman with a speech bubble saying "I am English and I am mad gay" coming out of his mouth.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

who knew a poorly done rap parody was all it took for ilm's disparate tribes to join hands

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

You should know by now that someone saying something nasty about rap is all it takes to turn this forum into "We Are The World"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Nasty or stupid?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all good.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

dom OTM re "we are the world"

― tweemu (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry, but even more annoying than what they're trying to do here is the fact that they're remarkably SHITTY writers. I mean, I personally ain't no Thomas fucking Pynchon or nuthin', but JEBUS, is this thing reads like it was written by over-reaching 13-year-olds.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha d'oh extraneous 'is' all up in mah post. spoke too soon.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha "reaching 13-year-olds" is 5% of the Ivy undergrad population, Nick!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

http://members.tripod.com/~haterap/

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.conjecturer.com/dailycon/archives/000126.php

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Part of the reason the guys from High Fidelity became the envy of music fans

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I love how that first one spells it "base".

turn up the base lay low on the tribble

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

http://s1rkull.tripod.com/why.html

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Remember, those who listen to rap will turn up the music even louder to tell others what they're listening.. May it be the annoying boom box carrying moron or the loser who is driving a $500 car with $500 stereo system. It's like a tribal system in Africa.. the person with the bigger drums get more respect. That's the black people way.. loud and obnoxious. I hate rap culture.

http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/citybythesea/161.html

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I am sorry, but groups like Arrested Development sound like they are some kind of African tribe and do not need to be given air time on American radios and music television

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

sign the petition to change the name of rap to crap

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

These lyrics are basically always about how they just busted a phat cap in their homeez azzes. Or about how "life is hard in the ghetto". Nobody fucking gives a shit how life is in the ghetto, last time I was in the ghetto my wallet got stolen, so shut the fuck up.

http://www.angelfire.com/nv/rapsucks1/

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I think he's actually talking about Elvis.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I dont think in the history of metal and rock any artist has ever been murdered. Except for John Lennon I suppose

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

no, blixa bargeld

haha xpost, i think

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

oh these are priceless

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like any rap fan out there to tell me who wrote the music to any rap song (and none of those fucking cheap puffy songs count, cause he always just uses other peoples music, thus ruining the original song because his new "lyrics" fucking suck). I mean who wrote the MUSIC, not the lyrics, which are written by the stupid ass rappers. I'll tell you who wrote the music, a bunch of people you've never heard of in your life, and never will, who know how to operate drum machines and computers. Basically, the rap "artist" asks them to make a real "phat" beat, they do so until its "phat" enough, then the rapper dubs in the lyrics over it. Ever notice that at rap "concerts" theres about 30 people in the background, aside from the fucking stupid rapper and the 90 backup dancers, that you've never seen in your life? Those would be the people I'm talking about.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"sigh...is that good enough?"

"no, it's not PHAT ENOUGH YOU LAZY SON OF A BITCH DRUM MACHINE OPERATOR"

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, I bet that person thinks that rock bands still record in the same room together, no overdubs.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

haha 90 back up dancers?? what is this, the "2 legit 2 quit" tour??

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

hey where did 'thomas tallis' go

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

he had to go master the next mountain goats lp

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, the guy that put together that last "rap sucks" page we discussed, isn't, obviously, as his name claims "John Stamos". He's called Marc Blomqvist or something, and you can check out his covers band at www.quindlenshoals.com

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mulletlovers.com/images/stamos4.jpg

― $$, Friday, 16 January 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

UNCLE JESSE NO!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Paper stupid. Okay we all get it and we all agree.

Still, it's kind of condescending to always, in every instance, point out or force connections between rap and blackness. Some people seem to insist that rapping unavoidably expresses blackness -- that, like it or not, your rapping is somehow about your being black. Wouldn't it be stifling to know that your music and the discourse surrounding it is going to be evaluated with your race in mind no matter what?

Granted, it makes sense that attacks of anti-rap stuff mention race because the anti-rap stuff itself -- even if it doesn't clobber you over the head with it -- often has strong racial undertones. Still, the "anti-rap = racist" line is kind of exhausting. I don't object to its truthfulness so much as I do the implications of its constant usage.

― Clarke B., Friday, 16 January 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah Clarke, that's what I was getting at.

That aside, many of the other things linked are reprehensible.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

In response to the original thread:

1. I'm printing these out as solid proof to all those that did not believe me before-- those dicks who got better grades then me in high school were NOT necessarily smarter! I said it before, you just do the busy work with diligence and you can get into Princeton, but that doesn't mean you're not still a fucking idiot. Now me, I may be lazy, but I would never turn out this piece of shit.

2. I think the reason this is so unfunny is because it's not really taking on a sacred cow. Satire is best when it's making fun of something supposedly holy. Swift took on the English, these guys are taking on Ja Rule.

3. There's a lot of room to work with here. I mean he could call a lot of mainstream rappers on the blatant sexism prevelent in most videos (Side note: Anybody hear about that member from the East Side Boyez, where he said in an interview in some new Hip Hop/pornography cross over magazine (Yep) that he had sex with a girl with a broken leg and made her walk home?), but in stead he just spits out nonsensical gibberish, like claiming Sean Paul is white (I can list at least 10 things wrong with that one) or something about J. Lo's ass.

4. The worst part is, for a satire, there's really no humor. Maybe it got a laugh when he showed it in his dorm to 4 of his friends, but the overwhleming aura of egotisitical prickhood totally trumps anything that would make it funny.

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I really hope Cornell West is one of their professors!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"There is the dance rave community, the hip hop/rap click, the alternative rock morons, generic pop musician, the hippie folk sing duds, the classical snobs, heavy metal druggies, punk screamers.. All these subcultures defined by the music they listen.. enslaved for the rest of their young life till when they get old they realise what a waste. I'll go into more about this as I continue my hatred of different music types which pollutes my noise."

so he hates techno, rap, indie rock, pop, hippies, classical music, heavy metal, and punk - what does this guy listen to? And how dare other people pollute his noise!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 January 2004 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

We don't need a click
To make our clock tique

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone here heard the Little Brother "Story of U.S."? Much much much much much much much much much much much better and it totally skewers Ja Rule etc. I almost feel like starting a new thread on it just to purge myself of this....Also, it would allow me to actually title a thread the following:

ATARI 2600--IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!

― cybele (cybele), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow Dan thanks for making me want to listen to an album I left at home, you bastard.

― Allyzay, Friday, 16 January 2004 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Won't you listen to what the DJ's spinnin', Ally?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"4. The worst part is, for a satire, there's really no humor. Maybe it got a laugh when he showed it in his dorm to 4 of his friends, but the overwhleming aura of egotisitical prickhood totally trumps anything that would make it funny."

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This isn't senior thesis material, granted, but it's just a small project for an entry-level English course made by two sophomore engineers making an attempt at a humorous work because it was assigned to them. They don't claim to be funny or brilliant, and whatever impression of that nature that you get from the site is simply part of the joke. The store, the arrogant picture, it's all part of the joke. You seem to be more into this project than they ever were. It's a total spoof, lighten up.

― Mike Luce, Friday, 16 January 2004 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I was actually going to post something that said that the language/style of the paper would point towards the viewpoint they were championing being as much a target of satire as the music they targetted but I figured people were too frothed up by that point.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

haha i would think that when i find anything not amusing or not entertaining when it purports to be so, it pretty well renders it illegitimate to me.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

(Despite my last post, Jess OTM; the big failure with that site/paper is that is just isn't funny.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i mean, it just doesn't work on any level...if it's some oblique parody of white middle-class or "collegiate" or whatever attitudes to rap music then it's just a little too oblique.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

ILM rocked by accusations of humorlessness SHOCKAH

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 January 2004 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but the humorlessness was worth it just for that whole "We Are the World" vibe.

Seriously, though -- the piece is not all that funny, but I'd never equate it with some of the ignorant horrors trife links to on this thread. They frighten me, to be honest.

― David A. (Davant), Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

trife in histrionic overreaction SHOCKAH

― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone getting called out on their bullshit and then claiming "it was just a joke you guys didn't get" shockah.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

ILX thread in overuse of the word "shockah" shockah.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, I bet that person thinks that rock bands still record in the same room together, no overdubs.

I have no evidence either way, but I've long suspected that a huge percentage (maybe even a majority) of music fans of all stripes don't even have a rudimentary understanding of what happens in a recording studio and just assume music is recorded "live."

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

The only reason it's online is because they submitted the project via the 'net, yet they've somehow pulled in over 25,000 hits in just a few weeks after only sending the link to a few people (myself included). You might not think it's funny, but somebody out there sure does.

"Our humor site gets a lot of hits" != "Lots of people think the site is funny."

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:47 (twenty-two years ago)

(Sorry, my use of "our" is misleading; obv. Mr. Luce isn't claiming it's his site.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually went to high school with one of these guys, and I find it kind of funny that they aren't taking this thing NEARLY as seriously as some of you are. The only reason it's online is because they submitted the project via the 'net, yet they've somehow pulled in over 25,000 hits in just a few weeks after only sending the link to a few people (myself included). You might not think it's funny, but somebody out there sure does. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but you should at least acknowledge that just because you personally don't find a work of satire or parody amusing doesn't make it illegitimate.
This isn't senior thesis material, granted, but it's just a small project for an entry-level English course made by two sophomore engineers making an attempt at a humorous work because it was assigned to them. They don't claim to be funny or brilliant, and whatever impression of that nature that you get from the site is simply part of the joke. The store, the arrogant picture, it's all part of the joke. You seem to be more into this project than they ever were. It's a total spoof, lighten up.

-- Mike Luce (bigspike...), January 16th, 2004.

Just as they have a right to create it, I have a right to deem it unfunny. And more than anything, I'm sorry you had to go to high school with these guys.

― David Allen (David Allen), Saturday, 17 January 2004 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

These kids seem exactly like the kind of guys who can be totally fulfilled spending their entire weekend cold sober talking about reality TV and arguing over who is unfairly dominating the salsa. "Dude, I fucking swear you scoop TWICE as much as me. No it's NOT about the money...."

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Saturday, 17 January 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"25,000 hits in a few weeks" OMG!!!!!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 17 January 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"This is just a generic rap song
This is just a sorry lament"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

what's wrong with talking about reality tv?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 January 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

okay okay the paper is pretentious and awful and the satire is pretty toothless and it picks on all rappers i like and it really sucks to think about smug crap sucks people linking to it on their blogs but i enjoyed this anyway, maybe it's me but i got the impression the parody is affectionate!!

― artiste, Saturday, 17 January 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Some things you have faith and trust in your decision to avoid.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

p-unit tries to make trl: "Imagine a video making fun of the industry's top stars on the very countdown they strive to top!"

― artiste, Friday, 20 February 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

wow. it's so weird how people can get worked up about hte simplest things (rap singers?) cos it was JUST A MOVIE. jeez. it's not like it was offensive or anything. personally? i thought it was hilarious. and just in case anyone wants to tell ME i have no life i want to tell them FIRST THEY have no life for bothering with the whole thing. can't just go around telling people their racist just cos they posted one FUNNY MOVIE on a public messageboard.
so there.

DISCLAIMER: all my opinions, ok, so u wanna get up someone don't get up anyone ok?

― NickiAnne, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

shut up

― wimplefilcher, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

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