― jj, Monday, 2 February 2004 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 2 February 2004 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― omg, Monday, 2 February 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― jj, Monday, 2 February 2004 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~noikz/superbowl/33.jpg
― minolta (minolta), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)
Ha good work Focus Group!
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― jj, Monday, 2 February 2004 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)
Oystein OTM.
― maria b (maria b), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)
Britney/Madonna redone by two people with rivalry issues towards other pair of attention seekers.
Janet duetting with her brother again only not really.
That wasn't a bum standing in for Justin?
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 2 February 2004 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Monday, 2 February 2004 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Time for another glass of wine.
― maria b (maria b), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)
"CBS deeply regrets the incident," spokeswoman LeslieAnne Wade said after the network received several calls about the show.
The two singers were performing a flirtatious duet to end the halftime show, and at the song's finish, Timberlake reached across Jackson's leather gladiator outfit and pulled off the covering to her right breast.
The network quickly cut away from the shot, and did not mention the incident on the air.
Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson's breast.
"I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl," Timberlake said in a statement. "It was not intentional and is regrettable."
Wade said CBS officials attended rehearsals of the halftime show all week, "and there was no indication any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS' broadcast standards and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended."
The Super Bowl halftime show, which also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock, was produced by MTV, CBS' corporate cousin in Viacom.
"We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show," Joe Browne, NFL executive vice president, said. "They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show.
"It's unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."
MTV issued a contrite statement, saying the incident was "unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional."
― maria b (maria b), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)
Ha-ha. Oh those raunchy flag displays. Does this mean that the whole audience was partaking in a 70,000 person orgy during Beyonce's national anthem?
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)
OUTRAGE AT CBS AFTER JANET BARES BREAST DURING DINNER HOUR; SUPER BOWL SHOW PUSHES LIMITS
― Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― yo, Monday, 2 February 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)
http://members.cox.net/jxgal2/2004/superbowl020104c.jpg
She looks a bit confused/pissed, imo.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)
But anyway I can't help thinking "poor Janet" and the intensity of my feeling sorry for her ... well, it suprises me.
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Translation: Viacom owns VH-1 as well.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)
oh, x-post... yeah REALLY looks that way now!
― Kim (Kim), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)
Now I'm worried that he might have hurt her tittie with that callous grab.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ashton Kutcher (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― hoooo, Monday, 2 February 2004 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)
(x-post yes that game actually was good it was sort of sad to see it end on a namby-pamby field goal)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)
(There's long-standing gossip that Ms. Jackson is into S&M, so the nipple ornament isn't so surprising.)
― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)
Pierced nipple, sure, whatever.
Grab your crotch, yeah, monkeys do that sometimes.
Parade around in an American flag like it's a poncho, then discard it to the floor when you're done with it? THAT'S OFFENSIVE, ASSHOLE.
― yo, Monday, 2 February 2004 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)
God they're selling it already. Come on, this wasnt an accident surely.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:50 (twenty-two years ago)
and Fox Sports is there with the slideshow...
― Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:57 (twenty-two years ago)
Yo yo whoever you are, calm down
― me@too.com, Monday, 2 February 2004 05:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― jeremy jordan (cruisy), Monday, 2 February 2004 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)
Yup... I won't be checking back into this thread at work tomorrow.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)
(By the way, I need to stress that my "double down" joke was directed at the second picture that's no longer here, because they were playing strip poker and shit and not the droopy booby lady in the one that's still here because obviously it wouldn't make sense to joke about her when she's not playing poker.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dr Poodles, Monday, 2 February 2004 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Famous Athlete, Monday, 2 February 2004 06:17 (twenty-two years ago)
If only I'd paid more attention to foreshadowing in my literature classes, I'd have seen this coming...
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― truedat, Monday, 2 February 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Phil Dokes (sunny), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)
1) It was supposed to be the other breast - this would explain Ms. Jackson's expression in the above photo.
2) The garment was caught on a hangnail.
3) In a last-minute rescheduling, Mr. Timberlake was replaced by a passing vagrant, unschooled in the ways of love.
― jazz odysseus, Monday, 2 February 2004 06:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 06:47 (twenty-two years ago)
[pic of ratemypoop removed]
― Jim Bob McGee, Monday, 2 February 2004 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 2 February 2004 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 2 February 2004 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.b3ta.com/board/2701797
― smudger (smudger), Monday, 2 February 2004 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 2 February 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)
HOT OFF AN INCREDIBLE SUPERBOWL PERFORMANCE
NEW JANET JACKSON SONG 'JUST A LITTLE WHILE'SPREADS LIKE WILDFIRE Overwhelming Worldwide Demand Prompts Virgin to Immediate Digital Deliveryof Song to Radio Stations Throughout the World
Janet's's Hotly Anticipated New Album, DAMITA JO, Will Be Released March 29th "Just A Little While," a new track from the highly anticipated upcoming Janet Jackson album DAMITA JO, has created a firestorm of interest, starting in the U.S. and quickly spreading throughout the world. Although not officially chosen by the record company as the first single, the unauthorized internet download of the track has created hysteria, from radio programmers to consumers to Janet©ˆs rabid fans. Due to the overwhelming demand and downloading of the single, the infectious song, co-written and produced by proven hitmaker Dallas Austin, will be digitally distributed to radio stations all over the world Monday February 2nd at 12 midday London time.
The song©ˆs release comes on the heels of Janet©ˆs triumphant return to the spotlight with her performance as the featured artist at America's Super Bowl Football Final, where she headlined the spectacular halftime show.
DAMITA JO finds Janet once again working with the hitmaking production team of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, who have produced every one of her albums since the 1986 breakthrough, Control. The new album also features writer/producers Austin (known for hits with Boyz II Men, Madonna, TLC, and many others); Kenny "Babyface" Edmonds (Toni Braxton, Aretha Franklin, Eric Clapton); Rich Harrison (whose credits include Beyonce©ˆs "Crazy in Love" and RnB artist Amerie) and hot newcomer Kanye West. DAMITA JO will be released on March 29.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― paddy wack, Monday, 2 February 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan (Jonathan), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)
The boob aside, it was kind of sad to see Janet try to share the stage with Justin... it came off like he was doing her a polite favor. These aging pop stars just don't have the magic anymore, compared to their of-the-moment counterparts!
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― djdee2005, Monday, 2 February 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)
Re-fucking-lax.
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 2 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)
The picture so commented upon above is indeed highly amusing!
― Tom May (Tom May), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Not that I really needed to see THAT particular one, but, you know.
Misguided Puritanism Yay!
― Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Note that the pic file is called "Janet Out Getty"
Note picture name
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)
"the lowest calibers from the inner cities."
Good Laird...........
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jarrett, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjj.htm
or here, which also has a link to a clip.
http://www.holeinthe.net/
>;)
― The Lizard, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
He also dropped the funniest Freudian slip ever when he said something about the Janet Jackson camp "milking it for all they can get", haha.
― David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lizard, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)
And The Lizard, that's what I suspected. I'm also well over 16, and watch MuchMusic fairly often (more than once a week), but I'd also heard that MTV doesn't really feature actual music anymore, so I can imagine it putting off an older demographic if it's a whole bunch of shows like "Becoming" or whatever. And yeah, the sports thing sounded wrong too. If he'd said "most people over/under 16" it might have made some sense, but he said no-one.
― David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― djdee2005, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― djdee2005, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)
(Is that how we do that? I never really asked.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)
Fer serious, everyone needs to give that up right now.
I don't think us "bleeding hearts" are acting "shocked" (although obviously I speak only for myself) but I think that the underlying psychological ramifications of this are very interesting.
― djdee2005, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Whatever.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Oliver Wang (Oliver Wang), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)
My bad.
Point is, I doubt I'm alone.
― djdee2005, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Sometimes, but not always.
But Oliver, misogyny? Please. Like Janet wasn't in on it (however far from the "script" it may have strayed). I'd always see her as the more powerful of any twosome that included herself and JT, whatever the genders. I mean, come on.
Next you'll be calling Madonna's kissing of Britney and Christina sexual exploitation of children. Oh wait...
― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)
I mean, "misogyny" is a harsh word for me to use but I'd rather, in this case, err on the side of saying too much than too little. I mean c'mon, we all know this shit, in the long run, won't change much except that next year's Superbowl half-time show is guarnateed to be rather snoozy. If this can at least remind the larger populus that violent, sexualized acts against women should not be tolerated, then I'm with that. I mean, seriously, what the fuck is the FCC going to do? Slap the #1 network with a fine of a few hundred thousand dollars? That shitty Linux/IBM ad with Ali probably could pay for that four-fold.
I'm just surprised Kerry and Edwards haven't had Nipple-Gate their new platform.
― Oliver Wang (Oliver Wang), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 08:00 (twenty-two years ago)
I fail to see how "this" reminds anyone of anything other than showing your nipple piercing for one odd second during the Super Bowl will not be tolerated. I mean if any of this "punishing" was really about taking a serious stand against aggression towards women that would be one thing, but everything I've seen thus far indicates to me that this is the farthest thing from most folks minds.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)
That's a big "if", though. Honestly, between the rabid "family values" people down there (I'm in Canada, by the way), and the seemingly willful obfuscation by CBS, MTV, not to mention the hundreds of thousands who downloaded the images on TiVo and the Interweb, etc., most people outside the US are just shaking their heads at yet another apparent example of bizarro-world American Puritanism. I mean, it was just a breast, ferchrissakes, and an attractive one at that...
But having said that, I do understand your point. Sure, it'd be nice if people in general stopped to think about the larger, wider socio-political aspects (intended or not), but it seems unlikely. Misogyny is depressing, but I honestly can't see much overt misogyny here (unless I conflate racism and misogyny -- a backlash from all those middle aged predominantly white American males disturbed by their own individual responses to a partially naked black woman, perhaps... which takes this discussion places I'm not sure ILM can handle, given its track record of, as you astutely say, snarky boys getting all pissy and saying absolutely nothing!).
Okay, breathe.
― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 08:16 (twenty-two years ago)
Here, here! Really wondering what the hell some Americans are making such a fuss about...
― Rudolf (Rudolf), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Quite a few people are shacking their heads INSIDE the US as well, mind you.
― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Oh, if only this were the most outrageous example of "bizarro-world American Puritanism". must.. resist... getting caught in an infinite loop tirade about American social values, school funding, television and an intrusive government party that claims to be laissez-faire. NNNNOOOOO!
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)
The Caligula Broadcasting System does the sleaze bowlCal Thomas (archive)February 2, 2004 | Print | SendMaybe it's appropriate that Super Bowls are numbered with Roman numerals. Sunday's, Super Bowl XXXVIII, featured a halftime show that could have served as backdrop for one of Caligula's orgies.Remember Super Bowl XXXIV? The halftime entertainment was produced by Walt Disney Productions. This year's was put on by MTV, and the difference was as stark as that between heaven and hell, between good taste and garbage. The commercials also reflected what the networks apparently think about our remaining "community standards."Janet Jackson, a member of America's most dysfunctional family, bared a breast during her onstage gyrations. There were the usual network apologies to "anyone who was offended." Jackson's singing partner, Justin Timberlake, should get the award for the ultimate in disingenuousness: "I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction. ... It was not intentional." Sure. Why, then, was Jackson wearing a pasty, instead of underwear that might have limited her exposure during the "malfunction"?Other singers, including P. Diddy, grabbed their crotches (a la Michael Jackson) and promised through their lyrics to have sex with gyrating women, who signaled their interest by removing some of their skimpy outfits.There were so many commercials for erectile dysfunction medications, one might have thought it has become an epidemic, on a par with AIDS or cancer. Other commercials featured a flatulant horse igniting a candle that blows up in a woman's face; a dog that bites a man in the crotch until he surrenders his beer; and a chimpanzee that puts the moves on a woman and then asks if she has a problem with back hair.CBS, once known as the Tiffany network, has been gobbled up by its MTV division and morphed into the trash network. Sunday's halftime show was soft porn, and those apologies and assurances - that the excess was a surprise to management and won't happen again - are insufficient. A father, his children and grandchildren (and women who like football) should be able to experience rare family time in front of the television set in their own home without being surprised by such sleaze.CBS should have expected trash. Anyone who watches even a little MTV knows that raunch and roll is standard programming fare. If you hire people like these, you're not going to get gospel music.The FCC - which recently warned it might start issuing heavier fines for indecency and obscenity, and revoking broadcast licenses - announced a "thorough and swift" investigation into Sunday's halftime show. But it's a little late for the FCC and Chairman Michael Powell to be expressing outrage. Where was the commission during CBS's Victoria's Secret fashion show? Why didn't the agency take action after singer Bono uttered the F-word during NBC's airing of Golden Globe Awards last month?It's easy for free-speech advocates to argue that if you don't like something, you shouldn't watch. But Sunday's halftime show came as a complete surprise to viewers and, I suspect, was unwelcome by many, to judge from the calls that flooded CBS.Freedom of speech should also allow for viewers to be free from speech they don't want to hear, and images they don't wish to see, on broadcast television, especially with young children in the room. A TV ratings system is supposed to warn audiences what to expect so they can decide whether to watch or not, and shield their children or not. One doesn't expect this sort of thing from the Super Bowl.The National Football League says it won't hire MTV to produce another halftime show. As for CBS, it has trolled too deep and gone too far in its unending quest for younger viewers. Just after the Jackson-Timberlake fiasco, a naked man streaked onto the field. If his "act" had been moved up just a few minutes, he would have fit seamlessly into their show. CBS cameramen focused elsewhere. Was the network suddenly gripped by pangs of puritanical morality?One commentator made a joking reference to "naked football." I was ready for some football. I was not ready for this.
February 2, 2004 | Print | Send
Maybe it's appropriate that Super Bowls are numbered with Roman numerals. Sunday's, Super Bowl XXXVIII, featured a halftime show that could have served as backdrop for one of Caligula's orgies.
Remember Super Bowl XXXIV? The halftime entertainment was produced by Walt Disney Productions. This year's was put on by MTV, and the difference was as stark as that between heaven and hell, between good taste and garbage. The commercials also reflected what the networks apparently think about our remaining "community standards."
Janet Jackson, a member of America's most dysfunctional family, bared a breast during her onstage gyrations. There were the usual network apologies to "anyone who was offended." Jackson's singing partner, Justin Timberlake, should get the award for the ultimate in disingenuousness: "I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction. ... It was not intentional." Sure. Why, then, was Jackson wearing a pasty, instead of underwear that might have limited her exposure during the "malfunction"?
Other singers, including P. Diddy, grabbed their crotches (a la Michael Jackson) and promised through their lyrics to have sex with gyrating women, who signaled their interest by removing some of their skimpy outfits.
There were so many commercials for erectile dysfunction medications, one might have thought it has become an epidemic, on a par with AIDS or cancer. Other commercials featured a flatulant horse igniting a candle that blows up in a woman's face; a dog that bites a man in the crotch until he surrenders his beer; and a chimpanzee that puts the moves on a woman and then asks if she has a problem with back hair.
CBS, once known as the Tiffany network, has been gobbled up by its MTV division and morphed into the trash network. Sunday's halftime show was soft porn, and those apologies and assurances - that the excess was a surprise to management and won't happen again - are insufficient. A father, his children and grandchildren (and women who like football) should be able to experience rare family time in front of the television set in their own home without being surprised by such sleaze.
CBS should have expected trash. Anyone who watches even a little MTV knows that raunch and roll is standard programming fare. If you hire people like these, you're not going to get gospel music.
The FCC - which recently warned it might start issuing heavier fines for indecency and obscenity, and revoking broadcast licenses - announced a "thorough and swift" investigation into Sunday's halftime show. But it's a little late for the FCC and Chairman Michael Powell to be expressing outrage. Where was the commission during CBS's Victoria's Secret fashion show? Why didn't the agency take action after singer Bono uttered the F-word during NBC's airing of Golden Globe Awards last month?
It's easy for free-speech advocates to argue that if you don't like something, you shouldn't watch. But Sunday's halftime show came as a complete surprise to viewers and, I suspect, was unwelcome by many, to judge from the calls that flooded CBS.
Freedom of speech should also allow for viewers to be free from speech they don't want to hear, and images they don't wish to see, on broadcast television, especially with young children in the room. A TV ratings system is supposed to warn audiences what to expect so they can decide whether to watch or not, and shield their children or not. One doesn't expect this sort of thing from the Super Bowl.
The National Football League says it won't hire MTV to produce another halftime show. As for CBS, it has trolled too deep and gone too far in its unending quest for younger viewers. Just after the Jackson-Timberlake fiasco, a naked man streaked onto the field. If his "act" had been moved up just a few minutes, he would have fit seamlessly into their show. CBS cameramen focused elsewhere. Was the network suddenly gripped by pangs of puritanical morality?
One commentator made a joking reference to "naked football." I was ready for some football. I was not ready for this.
Unlike Thomas, I am pro-tit all the way and say that if Thomas doesn't like our media, he should try living somewhere where it is more strictly controlled. Such as China or Iran.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)
"Maybe it's appropriate that Super Bowls are numbered with Roman numerals. Sunday's, Super Bowl XXXVIII, featured a halftime show that could have served as backdrop for one of Caligula's orgies."
is gold! (OMG what if it had been Super Bowl XXX??? The do you see contingent would have gone mental!)
AND at the end he accuses CBS of TROLLING!
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)
The Onion really should hire him for the headlines.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)
Interesting. A nipple bracelet.
― Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)
if somebody ripped open a woman's top in the middle of a shopping mall, people wouldn't think it's cool. and the superbowl is the tv equivalent of a shopping mall.
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)
In Canada, I hear that like 3 people called in to their networks to complain, compared with the thousands of americans.
― djdee2005, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)
That article is serious? It's fucking brilliant! Young children -- must be kept away from breasts at all costs... erm...
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)
My ill-used conscience is preventing me from making all kinds of mildly funny riffs on this line.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Hort Wessen, Thursday, 5 February 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― *, Thursday, 5 February 2004 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
-- Tico Tico (ticoticoil...), February 4th, 2004.
Nice stab at a parallel but I don't think failure to extend citizenship had much to do with Rome's fall.
― Eric Parter, Thursday, 5 February 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― err, Thursday, 5 February 2004 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 5 February 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 5 February 2004 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 5 February 2004 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 5 February 2004 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 February 2004 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)
A Tennessee woman has filed a class action lawsuit against JANETJACKSON, JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE, MTV, CBS and Viacom over last Sunday'sinfamous breast-baring incident during the Super Bowl. Knoxvillenative Terri Carlin says she was "caused to suffer outrage, anger,embarrassment and serious injury," due to the event. The suit seeksbillions of dollars in compensatory and punitive damages.
Okay, seriously, she's suing because she was "caused to suffer outrage, anger, embarrassment and serious injury." Has this Terri beeyoch never experienced LIFE. Or at the very least HIGH SCHOOL?!?
FUCK FUCK FOOOOOOCK EVERYONE! #*($@*#*^$*)@
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 6 February 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)
If people think its so abhorrent, why do i keep seeing the replay all over TV?
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 6 February 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)
THE LIBERAL MEDIA!!!!1111oneoneone
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)
Greg Jerrett: Simple fix for fear of the flesh
My only real complaint about the whole "Janet Jackson showing her breast during the Super Bowl half-time show" scandal is that she and Justin Timberlake don't have the guts to stick to their guns. You know? You've got Justin running around trying to back pedal, lying like a little child who knows he's busted, but thinks he might be able to squirm his way free of the FCC's wrath by telling the most outrageous of lies, "It was a wardrobe malfunction, only her bustier was supposed to be exposed." Then why the sunburst nipple ring, Justin? Come on!
Then you've got Janet trying to prove that Michael isn't the only reclusive freak in the family by tape recording a kind of apology/explanation for the masses. What a sister, huh? Nary a mention of Michael since last weekend, now that is love.
I'd like to see J-n-J stand up together and proud and say, "Yeah, we planned it, you gotta problem with that? Why you gotta be so uptight any way?" Or at least tell a GOOD lie like "We did it to show racial unity for Black History Month, you gotta problem with that?"
And then there are the children. Oh my God, the children! Who will safeguard their precious naivete and sweet, sweet ignorance from Janet Jackson's hoo-hah?
Even boxer Mike Tyson had a comment. "Everybody slips on the banana peel of life sometimes. You know what I'm saying?" Yes, yes. It's so true. And who would know more about slipping on that banana peel of life than a convicted rapist and suspected cannibal?
Are we to believe that one poor excuse for nudity in the middle of all the orchestrated violence of the Super Bowl that features steroid-shootin', cocaine-snortin', girlfriend smackin' genetic freaks between commercials with flame-fartin' horses, erection pill-poppin' coaches and bikini-waxin' comedians is going to mess up this nation's children? I hate to say so, but 90 percent of the little darlings will one day have breasts themselves. How is that supposed to make the girls and fat boys feel? Let's be concerned about how our children are supposed to grow up normal when we clearly don't know what normal is. I'm more concerned that our kids never move, frankly.
The only reason nudity is "dirty" to begin with is because we make it "dirty." Take our uptight friends the Brits. They are known world-wide for being easily embarrassed. Sex is a bit of a taboo subject for them as a nation as well, at least it is in the bedroom. But they are also pragmatic, fairly rational and appreciate a good artistic aesthetic. Nudity has been a staple of British television for decades. Not as some kind of way to shock viewers - though that may have been the case on a couple of "Benny Hill Show" episodes - but for the same reason they show people driving cars, eating breakfast and talking: it's a natural part of life. At some point, hopefully on a weekly if not daily basis, everyone gets naked for legitimate, natural reasons.
But let's be realistic as well. Organic nudity can be a great educational incentive to an American kid raised to think the human body is dirty. Why do you think I started watching PBS? Sometimes - rarely even - they showed naked women in foreign films or in documentaries. Before long, I was watching PBS because the shows were just good. In college, I advocated that nudity should be allowed on television, but only on PBS so our kids would watch hours and hours of educational TV while waiting for even a few seconds of all-natural nudity. I stand by that suggestion.
Breasts, in spite of our national obsession, aren't any more dirty than any other body part. In fact, instead of symbolizing something kinky, they should be symbols of life and sustenance. Why? Because that's what they are for suckling children and why should we live in a country where most kids know that men like women's breasts before they are aware of them as the milk-producing organs they are?
Fully half the country is shocked and horrified at the sight of bare skin while the other half are on the edge of their seats going, "Ooh yeah, that's so hot." And it's for the same reason. We're raised to think of sex and everything about the human body as naughty. Well, it was once considered the height of forbidden pleasure to see a respectable woman's ankle in this country. When was the last time you knew anyone who couldn't control themselves after seeing a bony ankle? Well, that's changed and good for it. I think the same benefit could come from defusing the nudity bombshell.
My solution is simple. Right after the nightly news on Sunday (the most boring night of the week), everybody should go outside and get naked. Show the world what you're made of. Front and back. Top to bottom. Nothing salacious, just an informative peak under the hood at the outer inner workings of the human body for the very legitimate scientific and social purpose of putting an end to the great mystery of what we all look like naked.
Because you know what? While some of us may be in better condition that others, we all got pretty much the same stuff.
- Greg Jerrett is a Nonpareil staff writer. His column runs on Wednesdays and Saturdays. He may be reached at 325-5746, or at gjerrett@nonpareilonline.com.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 8 February 2004 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)
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