Tower Records Files for Bankruptcy

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They've been flailing for years, but it finally happened...

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 9 February 2004 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn. There's supposed to be a link...

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 9 February 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but supposed they're not selling off everything in clearance sales = BOO.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

holy moley!
we don't have a Tower here, but I've always been impressed at how much the ones I visited in the east were like A&B Sound.

My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Monday, 9 February 2004 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but supposed they're not selling off everything in clearance sales = BOO.

Yeah, good fucking riddance, miserly bastards

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 9 February 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

doesn't say they're going out of business, just filing for protection. which isn't uncommon.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 9 February 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

One could argue that Tower is just a bunch of little specialty stores crammed into one huge room. They should split it up into different storefronts...

Tower Rap
Tower Indie
Tower Jazz
...etc.

Put thems on streetcorners like 7-Elevens.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Good riddance. Hopefully Virgin will be next.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 9 February 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Tower is quite valuable in suburban locales, where they're usually the only game in town (outside of other chain stores and the internet), but in cities they're rendered completely superfluous by all the specialty, used and deep-discount stores.

If you live in New York City, and you go to Tower and spend close to $20 on a catalog item like Dark Side of the Moon, you are LAZY. (If you're shopping for classical music CDs, though, this may not hold. I'm not a champeen classical shopper by any means, but based on my limited experience, they usually have the best selection anywhere in NYC.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

tower def has the best selection classical wise of any of the big stores in london.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Prices are the main reason why I rarely go to Tower (in Hollywood).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

tower failing, because their prices are sky high. CDs are price sensitive re: competition, why pay nearly upto 17 quid for a new album, when elsewhere you can get a much better deal.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

we don't have a Tower here, but I've always been impressed at how much the ones I visited in the east were like A&B Sound.
We don't have a Tower here anymore either. They had one down at Queen and Yonge but they provided very little incentive for anyone to go down there, what with the HMV and Sam's twin-team up at Dundas. The prices sucked, and the DVD selection was really lame most of the time.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

it just blows my mind how you can go bankrupt selling cds for 20 bucks a pop.

im sure competition has something to do with it, but it seems like enough people shop there and that if you were gouging all of them you should be able to keep afloat.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

it just blows my mind how you can go bankrupt selling cds for 20 bucks a pop.

R.I.A.A. to thread??

s woods, Monday, 9 February 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

It makes me a little sad. Sure, I dont go to Tower now (they killed themselves through overpricing), but I have fond memories of going there as a teenager and stumbling on things like Pere Ubu, Jad Fair and R. Stevie Moore -- back then Tower seemed amazing in comparison to Musicland -- but then I was just a kid who lived in the country and I didn't know any better -- still Tower played a part in my formative years before I went to independents exclusively.

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

There is a big Tower Records near me in Hollywood, but I never go. Not with Amoeba and Aron's. Plus Tower's selection is shite.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

the last ten years have been pretty bad, but tower in the 80's actually carried a lot of interesting things. their magazine Tower Pulse always had at least a few good writers on board, they'd cover Czukay solo albums, Negativland, Ryuichi Sakamoto, AMM. Back then. So there is something to mourn here, although they've been hopelessly dead & vile for so many years that it may be a bit difficult to remember.

(Jon L), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Tower used to be cool, and I always saw stars at the Sunset location.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Greg Dulli used to work at the one on Sunset in the early 90s. He was funny.

Kurt Heasley and D@ve Gr0hl used to work at the one near Union Square in NYC in the late 80s.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, around the same time as Dulli at Sunset, Falling James and Pat Smear worked at the SST Superstore (both in drag)... I just remembered that and smiled.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Greg Dulli used to work at the one on Sunset in the early 90s. He was funny.

Ha, you're kidding me! I remember James and Smear in the SST store...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

He was trying to break into acting... and hard drugs(?).

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I worked in the jazz department of Tower's big central London store for a short time in the mid-90s. They weren't bad employers as retailers go, but already the company was in a total mess w/ regard to overstocks/late payments to suppliers etc. - all the things that can cut into the pretty tiny margin that even big chain rec shops make per CD. Also the hours SUCKED - this store was open to 12 at night Mon-Sat - killer killer shifts

The same central London store - the only remaining Tower in the UK, as far as I'm aware - is now owned by Virgin (or is it Branson?)

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 9 February 2004 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

no!! i like tower coz they have paul :(

geeta (geeta), Monday, 9 February 2004 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

:)

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 9 February 2004 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah! that sucks! Paul, how you doing over there?!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 9 February 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The Tower in Ann Arbor occupied some pretty prime real estate, then the University bought up their space and off they went. It sucked because they were the best store in town for blanks, and for their newsstand.

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Monday, 9 February 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)


bummer... the tower in nashville was a pretty cool store. good vinyl clearance + good zines + pretty decent coverage of stuff... cheap clearance books! god, when tower books closed next door, i bought like $350 of books for like $100... score!
m.

msp, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah tower's dance import section in nyc is one of the best in the whole city. the only place i found the formation comp! (which i didnt buy, like an idiot.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Dance imports? Really? Seriously, I don't know any better, I just figured all the little specialty stores in the city would be better, not like they ever had what I wanted anyway.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

well yeah the last time i was there i didnt really have time to go galavanting all over town looking for the specialty stores, but they had a bunch of stuff i was looking for (formation comp, remarc, some house thing.) it was a plesaant surprise.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(and obviously i'm talking CDs here)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

contrast this with virgin who's section is three times as big and just larded out with bad trance comps and ibiza ads.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Sweet Jesus, is that ever true.

The Union Square Virgin is also notable for being one of those stores that used to keep its classical music section in its own seperate meat locker of a room, far away from the teener rabble, only later to evict all of it for a expanded DVD section.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

it's too bad cos it seems like they really worked on the IR component of their web site.

youn, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew a couple of people who worked at Tower downtown few years back used to say how easy it was to steal stuff. The Tower bookstore too, was notoriusly easy to steal from. Was the opposite of what friends of mine who worked at Virgin Times Square.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

tower def has the best selection classical wise of any of the big stores in london.

This is true but is more of an indictment of the other stores - actually their jazz/avant garde sections are much better too and suspect a lot of their specialist sections are. However they are over-priced and they are nowhere near as good as they once were. Plus their sales are always rubbish - they dredge up the same 5000 CDs they had in their last sale (and the sale before that and the sale before that and the sale before that etc) and stick them out EVEN THOUGH NOBODY WANTS TO BUY THEM!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Well Tower in sunny Glasgow shut last year (as I think most of their UK shops) after a period of about 6-12 months where the previously populated 3rd and 4th floors were closed off- so it's not like we couldn't see this one coming!!!!

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, as far as I know the tower store in London is owned by virgin.

yer right Dada. I checked the january 'sale' and there was fuck all there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm pretty sure that Tower Records stores operating outside of the USA are licensed and do not fall under the umbrella of MTS financials.

This is true of Tower Records Shinjuku in Tokyo which is one of the best CD stores I've ever seen.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

oh man, the mythic seven-story high Tower. I was always looking forward to going there. 4th floor, Jazz. a friend brought me back the Haniwa All-Stars record from his last visit.

(Jon L), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

julio otm

in chicago too, classical and jazz selection was great

not really that expensive all told

unfortunately i was often the only one shopping in the classical section, often they wouldnt even have anyone staffing it

this is sad

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon L,

I'm not a huge fan of spending long hours in record stores but that Tower is completely amazing. I mean, just comparing their "AVANT" section (experimental, modern classical, noise) section, it's bigger than Aquarius' total inventory in entirety. They have more new CDs than any of the Ameoba's and they have lots of American stuff that's hard to find here.

PS: I was meaning to ask, are you in San Diego and have a incredibly massive cult video collection?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
Paul, please tell me you've got another job by now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

OH NO I just got a $25 gift certificate! I better use it quick!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

agh, I feel bad for being lured by Virgin's listening stations. should go look for art brut or something there. funny that they quote Mustaine - 9th grade or so gabbneb waited on line at 4th and bway to meet them.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

i hope tower classical survives. as for regular tower, i will miss their high prices, poor selection, and stunningly ignorant staff.

every article on the decline of the record store in the wake of bestbuy/walmart/amazon/downloading should be require to devote at least a hundred words to what amoeba is doing right.

dan (dan), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Namely, only having three stores.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

i always liked the east village tower. RIP in advance.

rudy huxtable can't fail (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

burn (xpost)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

"Namely, only having three stores."

Amongst a million other things.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes amoeba's CD selection is too general-interest for my tastes -- they don't have the room to stock artists' full catalogues unless it's a well-selling current artist.

rudy huxtable can't fail (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Um what?!?! That is seriously not a problem I have ever noticed.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Tower in chicago usually has pretty good selection, but yeah prices are rough.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

what's the point of being esoteric if you're just going to have a couple of token selections for each subgenre?

rudy huxtable can't fail (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

amoeba's strength in is the used stock. of course, being a little cheaper on the new stuff helps. and their dvd selection is pretty awesome.

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Actually of all the (non-amoeba) chains it would prob be my first choice.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Best LA area store in terms of selection/price/'must buy SOMETHING' probably remains Fingerprints in Long Beach, actually.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

people talk shit about rockaway but i've found interesting things in there for pretty cheap.

rudy huxtable can't fail (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Unless you are talking about the Berkeley store. I mean yes they occassionally don't have EVERYTHING and some genres they are stronger with than others, but they seem to stock everything they can as far as I can tell. There isn't a better new non-specialist physical record store around (there are better online stores though obv.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

i think tower recently lowered their prices, at least their sale prices. i've picked up a few new dvds there for very cheap.

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

The Impulse! catalogue was $10 last I was at the Market one.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I like their colors.

Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm worried about that guy with the big beard who works in the east village tower classical section- where's he gonna go?

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

It really wouldn't bother me if Tower folded (last time they meant anything to me was over 10 years ago) but I always had this gut feeling they were going to turn it around.

Wine in the morning, breakfast at night (Bimble...), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

berkeley amoeba be sucking lately because they collapsed all the new stock with the used stock and in the process shipped off/put into storage a bunch of crap, I think.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Tower's jazz, oldie, and classical sections rule(d). The classical sections especially.

dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

That said, having the Lower Queen Anne Tower's sit there like a breezy DMZ what with Easy Street just blocks away is an awkward site... I've been visiting that Tower's to get stuff Easy Street isn't strong on (like Classical, certain DVDs, certain dinosaur rock/oldies catalogs, etc.)

dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Amoeba Berkeley is suffering the same fate that Cody's Books dealt with. There's no parking, the Cal students largely don't care, and there are no jobs whatsoever in the East Bay. Meanwhile, Mod Lang is absolutely dying on the vine in El Cerrito. DBA Brown's closed. Groove Yard is usually pretty dire. Saturn is as bad and disorganized as ever.

Meanwhile, the Act 1/2 theater closed, and the other small theaters are increasingly showing mainstream fare and struggling nonetheless. The rock clubs are usually pretty sparsely attended. It's a rough time across the board.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

damn, tower is practically the last decent record store left in new orleans (unless you prefer the highly specialized louisiana music factory or jim russell records, which pretty much only offer zydeco, jazz, and r&b)

Fetchboy (Felcher), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Wait the Amoeba in Berkeley is having problems? It always seems pretty packed every time I go in there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

there's a Mod Lang in El Cerrito?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

"berkeley amoeba be sucking lately because they collapsed all the new stock with the used stock"

They did this in SF with all but the Rock section. I haven't decided if I like it or not actually. It's a bit more one stop, but it increases your flip time if you don't care about the new stuff (which often I don't.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

there's a Mod Lang in El Cerrito?

They moved; the rent on University is a killer, especially so close to campus.

Wait the Amoeba in Berkeley is having problems?

They're by far the least profitable of the three, and still have a lot of staff to feed. I wouldn't say that they're struggling, but traffic is down quite a bit.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

"They're by far the least profitable of the three"

Well that makes sense. It's got the least profitable location, the least space and the least parking. But that doesn't mean it is in a bad way does it?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

that's a bummer, between the terrarium, the comic store, Mod Lang, and all the Indian food/markets, University was far and away my favorite Berkeley shopping strip... :(

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

is mod lang doing bad in el cerrito? I was led to believe they were doing fine, particularly since their rent there is probably like 1/4 of what it was in berkeley. The two times I've been in there there've been as many people shopping as there were the last times I was in the University store.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's by far the best music shop I've come across in Dublin. Galway's pretty shit in that regard so I spend hours there cursing my empty wallet every time I'm in town.

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

is mod lang doing bad in el cerrito?

I'm assuming so, but mostly based on the fact that the three times I've been there, I was the only customer for the entirety of my stay. That was never true for me on University.

I doubt the rent is 1/4th. El Cerrito Plaza has Albany-esque rents.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

man I ain't trekkin out to El Cerrito to shop there, that's for sure.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

But that doesn't mean it is in a bad way does it?

I don't know for sure, but the rock section is the store's bread and butter, so the fact that they would cut it basically in half doesn't bode well, or at least signals that they're shifting even more toward DVD sales, which is not something I'm looking for in a record shop. Since all three are owned by the same people and the other two are so damned profitable, I doubt they'd ever sell the store, but I believe that particular store is going to grow increasingly irrelevant.... which sucks, because I hate going to that goddamned bowling alley in the haight.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't worry too much about Tower Records in Dublin. They're completely seperate from any and all other Tower Records except the one upstairs in Eason's on O'Connell St.

Quoting their MySpace profile:
TOWER RECORDS is a LEADING specialist in MUSIC, DVD, BOOKS and GAMES Retailer based in DUBLIN and is wholly IRISH owned by RECORDS and DISCS Ltd since JULY 2003

Folks you can go leave comments on the Tower Records MySpace Profile for your town! Inc Tower Records Dublin, Calafornia. Wish them all well seeking new jobs!

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

I never liked Mod Lang anyway.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

The only real score I made there was a copy of Spiritualized's "Fucked Up Inside". which is awesome.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

You got hold of Fucked Up Inside? Jeez...

Is the version of Shine A Light on there better than the Albert Hall one?

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, considering I was at the San Francisco show that takes up one of the sides, I had to have it for sentimental reasons. I dunno if the version is "better", there are a lot of live versions of that song...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

people talk shit about rockaway but i've found interesting things in there for pretty cheap.

Rockaway was better when it occupied the entire building instead of the one-quarter or one-third that they have now. Rockaway is great because they are so completely myopic over '67-'71 era "Rolling Stone Magazine Rock" that they don't know/realize the other things that churn through the used bin.

That's how I got most of Flying Nun for a $1 each, etc.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is the version of Shine A Light on there better than the Albert Hall one?

Absolutely yes.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

I need this album NOW.

Second question: Is the FUI Medication better than the album version on Pure Phase?

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

that I can categorically answer as YES - cuz they did it like the EP version. what is this album worth, anyway? CDs seem to fetch a lot but I can't find any listings for vinyl... I'd never sell it anyway, I love it too much. I'd be happy to copy it for you if you like, altho I don't know how to digitize vinyl so it would just be a tape...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Second question: Is the FUI Medication better than the album version on Pure Phase?

Yes. However there are two even better versions... In order:

1. The live Glastonbury '93 one on the _Let It Flow_ CD EPs. Recorded when Darkside guitarist Kevin Cowen was in Spz. for a brief time, and it really shows.
2. The studio one on the _Medication_ EP.
3. _Fucked Up Inside_
4. _Pure Phase_

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

some fucker stole all three of my Let it Flow CDs out of a friend's car and I have never been able to replace them. grrrrr

Elvis otm tho

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's alright, I'll do it the hard way, the Ebay way...

(Or Amazon, or whatever.)

xpost

Let It Flow and Medication are my favourite two songs on PP (These Blues arguably up there also), so their respective EPs are probably worthwhile purchases going by that...

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

oh man the Medication EP is one of the best things they ever did, you have to have that. The Let it Flow EPs are hard to find and expensive - and they also contain b-sides that were not included on either of the Complete Works volumes, for some reason.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

(including an amazing version of "Things Will Never Be the Same" and an another tune called "Clear Rush")

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Hey guys this is a TOWER THREAD.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

not anymore!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

...and to think that at this point my favourite two Sp. songs are I Think I'm In Love (live at AH) and Won't Get To Heaven (The State I'm In)...

actually, both of the above songs hit me real hard, real deep. The moment 7:01 into WGTH(TSII) is one of my all-time favourites.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ucds.org/get_involved/auction/tplogo.gif

will fuck with you

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway the Market Tower has a great bargain bin. I got a whole bunch of seriously amazing CDs for a $1 or less over the past year even if most I bought just to give other people (Garage Rap Vol 1, Crews Control, Pay As U Go, Soundmurderer, Pressure, Friends, Diamond in the Dirt, the More Fire Crew album, Digital's album, the second Todd Edwards collection, both Horsepower albums, the second Tweet album, a ton of neat CD singles.) People be having no taste there apparently. I will seriously miss that when it goes.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

Now that I know this I should have placed a standing order with you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

That picture has nothing to do with

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Toptop.jpg


oh well

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jess said it upthread, but Tower surprisingly has a great dance/dance imports section, especially the NYC one.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Tower's jazz, oldie, and classical sections rule(d)

this is true, the Pasadena Tower has a killer huge jazz room, which is in turn dwarfed by Amoeba's jazz wing. Sorry I brought it up.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

(including an amazing version of "Things Will Never Be the Same" and an another tune called "Clear Rush")

I wish Jason would release the full Glastonbury 1993 live set. They also played a terrific version of "Good Times" (one of the only times they ever played it live).

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

I can't remember the last time I was in a Tower, but the Tower in Long Beach always had a great selection of zines.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

people talk shit about rockaway but i've found interesting things in there for pretty cheap.

Rockaway was better when it occupied the entire building instead of the one-quarter or one-third that they have now.

Elvis stole my Rockaway comment, and I'll miss the Pasadena Tower. I drive by it on the way home (always easy parking) and their DVDs are well-priced when they're released. Lately they've been having 20-25% off sales on CDs, which would make the prices good if I bothered to look around hard enough. It's probably been a year since I went to PooBah's, also a shadow of their former selves.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Tower on Sunset used to have a decent import section but they got rid of it a couple years ago. that store has been getting for a while now that stench o' doom i got from Aron's & Rhino in their dying days. and of course, Amaoeba doesn't have EVERYTHING, but the breadth is impressive, even if there are shallow parts of the pool.

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

Rockaway is great because they are so completely myopic over '67-'71 era "Rolling Stone Magazine Rock" that they don't know/realize the other things that churn through the used bin.

OTMFM

rudy huxtable can't fail (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

same is/was true of PooBah's in Pasadena, the jazz and r&b deals you could get in there were ridiculous at one time. I haven't been going there as much since they moved either Nick. They were a godsend when I went through a psych phase but that was forever ago.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 5 August 2006 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Fin.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 05:38 (nineteen years ago)

the Tower store in Cambridge, Mass is actually pretty good, probably the best electronic/dance selction in town, ditto for the world/jazz/folk sections...and there ain't an import alive they don't stock...(where else 'round these parts would I have gotten the wonderful Cortney Tidwell and Joan As Police Woman CD's?)...corporate behemoth or not, I will miss the place...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Lisa Amore, a spokeswoman for the Sacramento-based Tower, said the company hopes to keep the brand alive. "As of today, we have no intention of closing any stores," she said. The company has two interested buyers, according to Bloomberg News.

Bankrupt yet still in business! Whatta country! I guess the idea is to just keep going farther into debt and tack that onto the purchase price for whoever buys them up?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

"I don't even know how to download music,"

It's a bit like downloading porn, mate.

Seriously, that's sad. I really loved Tower Records.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

there ain't an import alive they don't stock...(where else 'round these parts would I have gotten the wonderful Cortney Tidwell and Joan As Police Woman CD's?)

thank you Hank (and Ned, and everyone else with good words)

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'd drive all the way down to Seattle to shop at Tower cause they had all sorts of neat, obscure stuff I can't get in the north end. Sad, sad, sad. Where else in Seattle can I find neat, obscure stuff?

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

good riddance (hi prices, sucked to work there), BUT i will always have fond memories of the huge, garish promo display they put up for the esp-disk reissue program in 1993.

yes, a huge promo display for esp-disk reissues.

Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

being for sale /= going out of business. more than likely whomever buys them will want to keep the brand intact.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

For all of those not in the USA, you may want to re-read this again:

Tower's brand is used by 144 international stores, but those licensees will not be affected by the bankruptcy process.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

a classic chain of stores that deserved to be run better. i said before, i'll say it again, as a teenager tower was life line to other music for someone coming from some place rural.

Igor Adkins (Grodd), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Igor Adkins OTFM as per usual

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

That and no other chain had such fucking great bargain bins.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Their regular prices are awful and no competition for independent stores (in Philadelphia anyway), let alone online distributors.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

(I don't have any particular nostalgia for Tower, too, because it's not something I grew up with. I think the first Tower came to Philadelphia in the late 80s.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

The 4th & Broadway one has decent sales with relative frequency. I've picked up tons of remastered Blue Note reissues at cheap prices there.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

"They're going to force you to going online now; it's like forcing you to ride the subway," said Ernest Feaster, 50, who lives in Northeast Washington and yesterday shopped at Tower for albums by Luther Vandross, Weather Report and the Dramatics. "It's the last of an icon around here," Feaster said. "At Circuit City and Best Buy, they're just throwing whatever up on the shelves. Here the selection is wide."

Tower's popularity extends beyond its customer base, said Geoff Mayfield, an analyst with Billboard.

"The industry wants it to survive," he said. It got a standing ovation from the crowd when it recently won retailer of the year from the major recording merchandisers' trade group, he said.

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

The Dallas Tower charges way too much for normal releases ($16.98-18.98), but if you catch a sale or something out in the first week, prices are decent. Lots of cheap, good imports (if the news gets worse, I'll have to go pick up all the freakbeat and girl group comps I fondle but never get around to buying) and the best zine sales in town.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever been to a Tower Records store in my life.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

They always struck me as rather mediocre. Not a bad place mind you, but they certainly didnt compare with a well run independent.

hector (hector), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

i used to get jazz CDs for my dad from the tower on the edge of the heilanman's umbrella in glasgow. then they invented internets and i stopped going there. soon after, that branch of tower closed. coincidence? YES, I THINK SO.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

It would be a pity if the stores closed. The Hollywood one is an L.A. landmark, in my opinion. Always a great place to spot a celeb or two and they usually had a decent sale going on.

Then again, I'm guilty (like a lot of Angelenos) of choosing Amoeba first...

Sean Robison (yaratnam), Thursday, 24 August 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

Always enjoy the cheapie bin. A lot of good new CDs for $7.99. Also bought 3 tapes for $10 a few times, and they have a good selection of magazines. But I'd never dream of paying full price for anything at Tower. Do hope they stick around, though.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 24 August 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

Their discount been was good if you were only looking for the type of thing mentioned in Listen to This, which covers a lot of ground, but if the center of your taste is elsewhere, it isn't so great.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 24 August 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
I had a love-hate relationship with Tower. Living in the Twin Cities from 1987-92, I was spoiled by all the great stores like Garage D'or, Oar Folkjokeopus, Cheapos, Positively 4th Steet and others. I expected even better from Chicago, but it was a huge disappointment. A much bigger city, it had roughly the same number of stores, but almost none were as good as the TC's stores. Many times the indies wouldn't have what I was looking for, but Tower would. I grew to appreciate Tower for that, and the fact that they were open until midnight seven days a week.

Sunday nights often bum me out. After 6:00, nearly everything is closed, and the work week is looming ahead. There's been many a late night Sunday run, walk or bike ride, when I'd end up at Tower, dependably open when no one else is. Even when I don't have the cash for an impulse buy to boost my mood, it's just soothing to be surrounded by a hundred thousand albums. Sometimes I'll just check for good deals on albums I want for later, or just randomly browse and soak it all in, or skim reviews in their well-stocked magazine section.

Many blame Tower's second bankruptcy on the decline in CD sales and downloading, but that's all bullshit. Businesses close all the time, even when conditions don't seem adverse. The truth is that Tower has been obviously mismanaged since at least the 80s, from what I've heard from former employees. It's a miracle it made it this long. Even though it's had an online store for about a decade, and started doing MP3 sales recently, the execution was half-assed. Not to mention the wildly inconsistent pricing. By employing a smarter online strategy and learning from successful independents like Amoeba, Tower could have lasted longer. As it is, I'm guessing one of the two interested buyers is Virgin. It'll be interesting to see what happens, but I doubt the changes will be effective. Corporate chains have simply lost touch with what music consumers want.

But dang, I'll miss those late hours. This excludes the downtown Chicago location, which was good for a few years after buying out Rose Records' inventory. The Lincoln Park Tower had a vastly underrated Imports section. For the last couple years, Paul Kennedy, the Imports Coordinator, has written blurbs about great bands like The Associates, Section 25, Dome, Scriti Politti, Mark Stewart, Gang of Four and punk poet John Cooper Clarke. They get some of the UK releases about a week or so after their release. Some of the albums seem to be permantly on sale for five dollars under the normal price (then again, some are inexplicably $35). They even imported and displayed Simon Reynolds' Rip It Up And Start Again, nearly a year before it was issued in the U.S.

I went to Tower last night, possibly for the last time, depending on how long they keep their doors open. The current sale was typical of their odd sales -- in addition to the usual discount bins, all albums priced $12.99 were on sale for $9.99. For that price, I found these, all in the import aisle:

Soft Machine - Fourth and Fifth
Sparks - Indiscreet
Strawbs - Ghosts [Remastered]
Ultravox! [New remastered version]
Ultravox! - Ha! Ha! Ha!

Farewell Tower, R.I.P.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

About a dozen years ago, maybe more, the Tower aross from Other Music had sealed cutouts of like every single Folkways LP except for the ridiculously rare ones. It was amazing.

I still sometimes catch myself dreaming about taking a time machine back to then, and buying up every single one.

yetimike (McGonigal), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

the tower in lincoln park is closing? what about the lopp one?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

My Alexandria, Virginia Tower outside DC still sells so many cds for $18.99 list or higher. Nice selection but those prices are not friendly.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

i think i'll head over to the loop store right now...

john, a resident of chicago. (john s), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

maybe someday ilm will learn the difference between bankruptcy and going out of business.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is there really a different in this case though?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

very much yes! it's not like the stores just shut down. and if another company buys them and keeps the brand intact while (hopefully) improving things, what's the diff? it's not like people just STOPPED shopping at k-mart because they declared chap. 11.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

well, the sale at the loop store is just the $10 for everything $13. amongst a ton of meh, there were import copies of arthur russell's Calling Out of Context and Captain Beefheart's Unconditionally Guaranteed (both about $8, i think) in the clearance section way up on the 3rd floor. if interested, i left em right in front for ya. given the crappy crappy day, not really worth the walk.

as for the store itself, kinda sad. the music mags seemed to be a month or two behind. about 10 people in the store. counter help picking their finger nails...

john, a resident of chicago. (john s), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

I scored the Sandie Shaw box set at the Cambridge store for 30 bucks last week...talk about a steal (I should have been arrested for shoplifting)...they continue to be the only record store in the Boston area to stock The Shortwave Set...don't go, Tower...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

from billboard:

September 23, 2006
RETAIL TRACK: OPENING ROUND
Bids After Deadline Could Prevent Brutal Tower Liquidation
BY ED CHRISTMAN

Just because a liquidator appears to be the only bid so far in the Chapter 11 auction of Tower Records doesn't mean the chain will be liquidated. Good thing, because for many in the industry, a Tower liquidation could be devastating. But to be sure, the fact that only a liquidator put in a bid can't be painted as good news either.

At press time (Sept. 12), one of the liquidators-like Gordon Brothers in Boston, Great American in Los Angeles or Hilco Organization in Northbrook, Ill.-was expected to be the only suitor in the opening round of bids for the West Sacramento, Calif.-based chain. This comes after months of Tower Records assuring the vendor community that a private-equity firm is on the verge of signing a letter of intent.

As one bidder pointed out to Retail Track, it's too early for them to show their hand and what they're willing to pay for the chain. Even though the formalized process has opening bids due by Sept. 12, and final offers with a signed asset purchase agreement due Sept. 26, the reality is that if a qualified bidder decides to forgo those two dates and shows up in court on the Oct. 5 auction date, he will be welcomed with open arms. Yeah, other qualified bidders would squawk, but there's no getting around that cash is king.

While it seemed like there was no potential shortage of bidders when Tower Records filed Chapter 11 on Aug. 20, at least three have indicated to Retail Track that they won't step up to the plate until Sept. 26, if then. That's because things have changed somewhat since Aug. 20 and their non-action is also intended to send a message to the major vendors.

Since Tower filed for Chapter 11, every newspaper in the land has painted music retail as being completely dead. So if you bid on the chain, you can count on all those papers calling you an idiot for buying a record store in this day and age. Needless to say, that imagery has been reinforced by SpiralFrog and the notion that brick-and-mortar stores will soon have to compete against free.

Even sophisticated institutional investors and private-equity firms would have second thoughts after that initial press onslaught. Meanwhile, the remaining vulture investors-who have thick skins and are seasoned in making money even in a diminishing marketplace-are likely holding back on bidding for Tower because they have to scare the product suppliers into remembering how much they need the deep inventory superstore chain.

When last heard from, the major suppliers-those secured creditors likely to get whatever's left over after the bank gets the $78 million it is projected to be owed on Oct. 8-were touting their trump card: namely, that they could sink any new owner by not supplying credit if they are unhappy with whatever recovery they get from the $82 million they claim to be owed.

With Tower's value declining every day and bidders trying to ensure that the price for the chain remains as low as possible, if the winning bid is only large enough to satisfy the bank's claim, the new owner will still absolutely need vendor support for the chain to become healthy. That's why it's in all the bidders' best interest to put a little fear in the heart of vendors. But not too much. Any new owner has to be one that the major suppliers are comfortable with, and one that will invest in the chain so it becomes financially viable. If that occurs, vendors could be induced to back down from their stance that they have a recovery that makes them happy.

Some vendors are already thinking along those lines. The independent community is collectively owed only about $15 million, and if nothing is recovered for unsecured creditors, some suppliers will likely be forced out of business. But if Tower is liquidated, the hurt will be even bigger, according to the head of one large independent distributor.

While Tower Records is not the largest account and has an estimated market share of only about 4%, it can account for about 30% of sales on rock records from new and developing artists, that executive says.

"For anybody in the indie rock business the possibility of a Tower liquidation has to be brutal," he says. "It would mean a completely different life for companies like us. It would cause us to rethink our staffing and how we market records."

Sure, the majors are more diversified, but even they appreciate the importance of Tower Records in developing rock records and roots music from up-and-coming bands. What's more, a Tower liquidation might put the classical music business on life support until the digital marketplace grows large enough to compensate.

So with stakes that high, count on all kinds of posturing and bluffing along the way until the nail-biting finale of the fate awaiting Tower is determined.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

as for the store itself, kinda sad. the music mags seemed to be a month or two behind. about 10 people in the store. counter help picking their finger nails...

John is referring to the Tower store in downtown Chicago on Wabash. It IS really sad. They must be really feeling the strain, because as recently as six-seven years ago the store would be jampacked on a good day. Now, if there's just "10 people in the store" (scattered amongst the three floors), bro, that is a CROWD.

Interesting note: the building directory in the doorway STILL says "Rose Records" and "M&H(?) Distributors," even though Rose has been gone for over a decade and the distributor has probably been gone longer than that.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
And that, in terms of it being an independent entity, is that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

someone describe For Your Entertainment for me.. are they like the Sam Goody of the east and/or south or something?

0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

that nile rodgers?

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

They are like the Sam Goody of Hell.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

How the fuck is that possible? Hell is an infinite concept. Are yu saying that FYE does the eating of the babies behind the clerk desks there or something?

0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm saying that when you go into FYE! they force babies down your throat (this is the important bit) REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU'VE ALREADY EATEN OR NOT. Shopping there is the music consumer equivalent of being a foie gras duck.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Alternately, take everything you dislike about Sam Goody and then imagine it all happening while Newt Gingrich is rubbing olive oil on his nipples and singing "Touch Me (I Want Your Body)" to you. Also imagine the stench of rotting ham pervading the entire scene.

That is what shopping at FYE! is like.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I love you both.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

This does suck for record shops in general but haven't been in a Tower for years, going to have to check it out this week though.

BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

I love FYE. At the FYE in the Gallery they are always playing salsa and reggateon. It almost makes me do a double-take. Perhaps I shouldn't love them since they are probably just corporate scum, but I really do love going into that store. The prices are crazy though. I don't think I'd actually buy anything there.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

They were even playing NG2's one good song one day. Who has even heard of NG2?

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

(Their second good song I mean. This was before the new album I haven't heard.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Perry, you should visit FYE in the Gallery in Philadelphia.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

R.I.P. Cherry Creek Tower Records in Denver.

http://art.towerrecords.com/stores_new/denver.jpg

M. V. (M.V.), Saturday, 7 October 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

so when do the warehouse-style markdowns go into effect?

HUNTA-V (vahid), Saturday, 7 October 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

the bone-picking commences tomorrow in some stores according to a quick NPR news item I heard today. RIP...open open open

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 7 October 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm...there IS a Tower in Costa Mesa still.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 October 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

The FYE in Faneuil Hall is a little like an open ass sore.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

I must have passed by there when I visited in April since I was at the Hall. No anal sore smells though. Perhaps I had a cold.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Sale starts today. Anyone know what kind of discounts they're starting with?

Johnathan Redgers (Pearl Hooch), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

10% off in harvard square, cambridge MA today. Expect that'll go bigger.

caspar (caspar), Saturday, 7 October 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

10% here (northern cali) too.

we should keep a watch on this thread

HUNTA-V (vahid), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Indeed so.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

email me when import electronica hits 50% off

HUNTA-V (vahid), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet, assuming the one in Memphis is still open.

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

10% at Tower in Seattle/Lower Queen Anne... but the main steals are in the bargain bins.. lots of import CDs and CD singles for $2 each and up.

0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I hadn't noticed this -- the reason for the liquidation is because FYE did *not* in fact make the winning bid.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

So no eating of the babies?

0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yea, 10 % off 18.99 list price cds ain't so great, but there are some cheaper ones. Books are 20 % off and magazines 30 % off I believe.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 9 October 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I was just gonna say, R.I.P. $18.99 CDs. And good riddance.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 9 October 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

10% per week is what i heard. sounds dubious.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

10% off? I'm not going anywhere for 10% off!

Bassment Jacks (Bimble...), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's just like the Wherehouse's slow demise. I'll check in at the Costa Mesa store in a couple of weeks.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

What record should be my final Tower purchase? I'm probably not gonna bother taking advantage of any kind of sale -- I've never been that kind of record-buyer.

First Tower purchases: Big Star, #1 Record/Radio City CD; Aaron Neville, Tell It Like It Is LP; the Nonesuch Javanese Court Gamelan LP.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I should probably go back to the Roosevelt, NY store for the optimum full-circle experience.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah! The Wherehouse! Man, they were there and all of a sudden they were gone! Where's the justice? *weeps at the thought of cheap CDs*

Bassment Jacks (Bimble...), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed ransacking a Sam Goody when they were about to go under - I actually managed to get Ta Det Lungt and Less Than Human for cheap.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

i was at the tower on market in SF today and i overheard a worker saying that they will continually reduce prices until it all sells and the target for the end is 6-8 weeks. (so, no new info to report)

the pricing in that store is bizarre too. recently i picked up a few of prince's back catalog titles for $10 at the same store and then today i had a dig through the clearance bins and there was little under $10 unless it was complete dreck. there were a few treats though, but nothing i didn't already have. (i saw the last villalobos album, the melchior productions double cd, the glimmers comp that opens with queen's "body language" and the first get physical mix cd all for $10.99. vinyl of the last royksopp for $9 which is a decent deal.)

how they justified selling moderately rare import stuff for $26 and up in the age of the internet is beyond me. virgin does this too and it's just insulting. maybe they're next.

josh. (disco stu), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

The only thing Tower did very well unlike others was classical and jazz. Until there are Amoeba's everywhere (which doesn't seem to be the plan in the short term), being able to walk in and view a gigantic selection of classical will be a thing of the past. :(

(Of course, it's these section I'll be vigiland about in the next month.)

0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

i used to love the soundtrack room in the stores that had separate rooms for jazz/classical/soundtracks. i don't know how prevalent those stores were though.

josh. (disco stu), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, actually the Broadway Tower did have quite a good jazz section for a while there, and they'd sometimes have reasonable deals on certain CDs.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

the only good shit left in the clearance bin at my local tower is a copy of "chicago boogie" (the classic house comp on eskimo) for about $10 and a copy of the lindstrom album on eskimo for $7.

my list for when it goes out of business: three tangerine dream reissues, two klaus schulze reissues, "cluster ii", "get physical vol 2" and the chelonis r jones album.

tower was PACKED full of people tonight, i was like WTF?!? people lining up to buy $16.99 albums for 10% off, yeah, it's fucking nuts! you can get shit cheaper at borders!

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

Some stuff will just stay for a bit, I'm patient -- those early rushers are just deluding themselves.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

*crosses fingers*

josh. (disco stu), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

Vahid, where are you located again? which is your local Tower?

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

(And Paul, what's the story with you? Had you left already?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

shallow alto

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

waiting for official word. meanwhile looking forward to new horizons and my DJ guest spot on Wednesday. thoroughly enjoying no longer being a workaholic. looking back on my Tower years fondly - and I made it to 15 years!

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

Nice. :-) Now for phase 345452454 of your life. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

We really need to lobby for Amoeba to take over one or both of the spaces Tower will leave openin Chicago. It kills me that there's two Amoebas in SF/Berkeley while Chicago, the third largest city and a thriving music community, doesn't have anything remotely close.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Uh no one else has anything remotely close!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Tower didn't seem to know that Amoeba existed. Or at least their strategy consultants didn't.

My chat with one of them...

EComplex (EComplex), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

um...i can tell you with some certainty: not gonna happen.

something less threatening (heywood), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

xpost fastnbulbous

something less threatening (heywood), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Amoeba in California is pretty distinct.

This is like having Border's close nationwide if it ever went through dire straits, and then lamenting that Powell's in Portland somehow owes someone in a bigger city another Powell's.

0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

Borders is the correct comparison. Before the bookstore was purchased by K-Mart in the 90s, there were only a few scattered around, and they were amazing bookstores. Like the flagship Towers, the Pre-K Borders had an astonishing number of titles in stock. They were great stores.

EComplex (EComplex), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

what's the sale at right now? still 10%?

HUNTA-V (vahid), Saturday, 21 October 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

the website shows anywhere from 15-25% off and yet it still is just knocking shit down to a normal price. ridiculous

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 21 October 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

lol

Greatest Hits: Back To The Start
Megadeth

List: $18.99

$15.99

Save: $3.00 (15%)

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 21 October 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hence bankruptcy.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 21 October 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

Tower Sells...But Who's Buying?

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 21 October 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

tower was PACKED full of people tonight, i was like WTF?!? people lining up to buy $16.99 albums for 10% off, yeah, it's fucking nuts! you can get shit cheaper at borders!

-- HUNTA-V (vfoz...), October 9th, 2006.

Borders has drastically reduced its music stock over the past year-and will continue to do so, according to its CEO, only focusing on carrying big new releases.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Saturday, 21 October 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

This is like having Border's close nationwide if it ever went through dire straits, and then lamenting that Powell's in Portland somehow owes someone in a bigger city another Powell's.

That's a dumb analogy. I never said anyone owes anyone. My point is simply Chicago is an untapped market. On a side note, while Powell's is associated with Portland, the first Powell's was opened in Chicago in Hyde Park. And the one on Lincoln is just great.

um...i can tell you with some certainty: not gonna happen

Why? I can see why a California based indie chain would not be interested in expanding halfway across the country. But that doesn't mean someone else couldn't do it based on their business model.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 21 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

the website shows anywhere from 15-25% off and yet it still is just knocking shit down to a normal price. ridiculous

Ridiculous -- even the Wherehouse clearances were handled better.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

If these fools keeping buying at 20% off, it will never get down to 40%.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

there were a few really good finds in the crate with previously listened to cds. i got the glove reissue and the new hot chip for three dollars total.

jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Saturday, 21 October 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I did used to enjoy doing the Tower - Tower Outlet - Other Music triple play back in the day. Tower Outlet hasn't even been there (the Lafayette St. location) for a while, has it?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 21 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I thought they got rid of Tower Outlet, got rid of Tower Books upstairs across the street and brought over Tower Video from downstairs across the street and set it up where Tower Outlet had been.

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Saturday, 21 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I think that's what it was.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 21 October 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

For S.F. rockers, Tower Records was where it was all happening -- now the party's over

Joel Selvin, Chronicle Senior Pop Music Critic

Thursday, October 19, 2006

Record promotion men Jeff Trager and Bill Perasso used to sit around drinking with pal Russ Solomon at their favorite hangout, the cocktail lounge at Villa Roma at the busy intersection of Columbus and Bay streets. Solomon, who owned record stores in Sacramento, would point to the supermarket across the street. "One day I'm going to open a store there," he told them.

Nursing a hangover at a nearby drive-in one morning, Solomon saw a "For Rent" sign on the lot, walked across the street to a pay phone and made a deal to lease the property. He had a cousin who was a good carpenter, and he put him to work.

"We painted the place, hung some lights and filled it up with records," Solomon says. "It was something else."

He opened the San Francisco Tower Records in April 1968. The sign outside boasted "Largest Record Store in the Known World -- Open Nine to Midnight 365 Days a Year."

It was a good time to enter the retail record business in San Francisco. The Beatles were at the top of the charts. Bill Graham was running concerts every weekend at the Fillmore featuring a never-ending procession of exciting new rock bands -- Fleetwood Mac, Traffic, Ten Years After, the Chambers Brothers. The San Francisco rock scene was flourishing with groups emerging almost daily, such as Creedence Clearwater Revival, Santana and It's a Beautiful Day. Over in North Beach, disc jockey Tom Donahue was inventing FM rock radio on KSAN and playing all the great new records by these bands and more.

At the opening party, revelers spilled out the door, plastic drop cloths protected the record racks and the long-forgotten rock band West, which had just released an album on Epic Records, performed.

"The drummer dosed me with something," says Stan Goman, who was working in the Sacramento operation at the time, but would serve for 10 years as the San Francisco store manager, beginning in 1972. "Driving back to Sacramento that night was a trippy drive. What a store."

Solomon would eventually open more than 75 other stores with the soon familiar red and yellow signs. The Greenwich Village store spanned three blocks and was touted as the largest record store in the country. The London store was on Piccadilly Circus. The Sunset Strip store was famed for star sightings; it used to open early in the morning to accommodate Elton John while he abused his charge account. Now the international chain Solomon built is defunct.

Sacramento always remained the corporate headquarters and the heart of the chain. That was where, in 1952, Solomon had begun stocking the record department of his father's shop, Tower Drugs, a landmark retail location with a tower on the building. But the Columbus and Bay store was where the party always was.

"You couldn't have opened a record store at a better time," Solomon says. "You had the Summer of Love, the Fillmore-Avalon action, the Haight-Ashbury just starting to explode. Everybody came into San Francisco, and they were just mad about music. It was a mysterious, wonderful miracle."

"It was a new style," says Dave Haynes, who managed the store for a couple of years in the '60s. "The timing came together. All of a sudden the store showed up and fed all that. I don't know whether it was a stroke of luck or genius."

"He wanted to fill all the racks up and have turnstiles like a supermarket," says Rudy Danzinger, who went to work for Solomon in Sacramento in 1958 for a princely $70 a week. "He had this vision."

Of course, the party is now officially over. Tower was turned over to liquidators just weeks ago. Truth told, the store was never the same after CDs. But neither was the record business. When the store sold those black vinyl discs in 12-inch cardboard sleeves -- some of which opened up on a gatefold -- for around 5 bucks, there was magic in the place. Tower used to have a sign outside the store during the holidays that read "Thousands of Gifts for Under $10."

When the product changed to a small shiny wafer in a crummy plastic box that cost 20 bucks, that was the tectonic shift that led to the ugly, prolonged collapse of a chain store that people at one time actually loved.

"Tower was where music nuts, not a socially adept breed, had to face each other in the flesh," wrote Los Angeles Times pop music critic Ann Powers, who worked as a clerk during her college years at the Columbus and Bay store.

Before Tower Records opened, all record stores were little mom-and-pop shops with limited inventory that kept business hours and charged list price. Tower sold records cheap, all day and night, and stocked everything. "We liked to make sure we had every single record in stock," says Tower's Goman, who has run a printing shop in Sacramento since he lost his job in the Tower corporate hierarchy four years ago. "If you wanted the Amazon tree frog noises, we had it."

"On Friday nights, the place was like an event," says record promotion man Dave Sholin, who back in the '70s ran the city's ruling Top 40 station, KFRC. "Just going in and seeing everybody in the place, the aisles jammed, all the new releases -- it would be hard to describe to someone who wasn't there."

Clerks like Powers were the rule, not the exception. They knew music and they worked at Tower because they liked it. They also recognized musicians and treated them to employee discounts. Michael Carabello, the original conga drummer with Santana, remembers going down to Columbus and Bay with his band's guitarist, Carlos Santana, and raiding the jazz section for Gabor Szabo albums, which miraculously cost nothing when they went to the cash register. That Santana went on to record Szabo's "Gypsy Queen" on the band's breakthrough album, "Abraxas," makes Tower a fairly direct tributary into the cultural mainstream.

It was a place that could be packed for in-store appearances by Joan Jett or Luciano Pavarotti. The opera in-stores were an annual event, in fact, and all the big names in the field made appearances. Tower always had the best selection of classical records at the lowest prices, too. Former manager Haynes remembers knocking down a wall in the store's warehouse to build the first opera room, laying down the tiles after the store closed at midnight. Inventories were also all-night affairs and such a party that employees vied for the assignment.

The store was decorated on the outside by giant airbrushed paintings of album covers of new releases, clearly visible to people driving past the busy intersection. Tower did not charge for those advertisements -- Solomon likes to refer to himself as an "aging hippie" and this is just one of his store's unconventional, non-corporate approaches to marketing -- but let the record labels and the airbrush artists work out the cost between them. It was a custom that started when the local Warner Bros. promo man persuaded the Columbus and Bay store management to allow him to paint over the store's large white wall as an advertisement for the new album by the Grateful Dead. The paintings soon became a trademark of Tower stores everywhere.

Another Tower trademark, the stacks of current hit releases piled on the floor in the front of the store, happened by accident. Solomon almost opened an earlier San Francisco store in 1960. He had a location at Mission and Van Ness streets, but the banks pulled the loans at the last minute. He shipped the store's inventory to the Sacramento store but didn't have the shelf space, so he dumped the lot on the floor and there they sold.

Tower was more than a record store; it was a cultural hub. Tower was one of the main outlets for concert tickets in the days before computerized ticketing, and fans would line up for blocks outside the store when tickets for popular concerts went on sale. The chain also produced a giveaway tabloid called Pulse, full of record reviews, interviews and, of course, record company advertising. Tower was a market leader in innovations, such as in-store video plays or listening posts, which must have reminded Solomon of the old listening booths he used to maintain in his father's store.

Journey manager Herbie Herbert had an office next door to the Columbus and Bay store. "Studying Tower Records, going there and observing how people browsed really taught me a lot about how to proceed with Journey," Herbert says. "Tower really taught me that the most effective means of promotion was actually point-of-purchase advertising. You had a captive target demographic. I went crazy spending money on point-of-purchase materials. It was very, very, very effective. It wasn't long after that success was observed."

Although the Tower chain is on its way out, the 81-year-old patriarch of the stores still keeps his office in the building and goes to work in Sacramento every day planning to open more record stores, a chain he wants to call Resurrection Records. "If I can get the money and the real estate," he says. "It's the only thing I know how to do."

Solomon is philosophical about the sealed fate of Tower. But he's not ready to write off the whole record business.

"Everybody in the world -- except a few people in the record business -- believe that the physical business is dead. How can they still sell 10 million CDs a week if the physical business is dead? There's a vast amount of people. The only issue is the record industry isn't doing anything to get kids in the stores. They believe their future is in downloads, and maybe it is. But who's going to download an opera? The only place to see it properly is a record store."

Solomon obviously had a vision of record retailing that would sweep the globe. His first few stores in Sacramento were the laboratory experiments; San Francisco at Columbus and Bay was the big city. Key to his success was his own love of music. He could be seen on the side of the stage two weekends ago at the B.R. Cohn Winery benefit in Sonoma snapping photographs. "He was always in it for the music," Haynes says.

"That's what I liked about working with him," Trager says. "He talked music."

"I was the only promo man who ever came up to Sacramento and worked the store. I came and said, 'These are my new releases,' " Trager says. "If Russ liked something, he'd go all out for it. He'd play it in the stores. He'd tell his people to play it in the stores. He'd try to break acts."

He also remembered friends. When Trager came out of rehab -- years after he, Perasso and Solomon used to look at the future site of San Francisco's first Tower Records over the rim of a cocktail glass -- he had to start working his way up in the business all over again. He put together a partnership to promote alternative rock on independent labels and was getting airplay on college radio stations, not exactly the big-money wheelhouse of the record biz.

Solomon gave Trager an end rack in all the stores to display whatever he wanted. "Do you know what record companies would pay for that? There were guys coming up to me saying, 'How did you get that? We spend millions.' "

BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 22 October 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Truth told, the store was never the same after CDs.

ah right, CDs killed Tower

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 22 October 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

The Greenwich Village store spanned three blocks

???? Even if you counted the outlet and the book/video stores, it still wouldn't add up to three blocks.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 22 October 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

i popped into the chicago wabash location yesterday afternoon. it's probably the first time i was ever goaded into a store by one of those pitiful dudes standing on a corner lazily waving a "STORE CLOSING" signs. usually it's just furniture stores or whatever. anyway, there were a lot of people in there. i heard a couple of $100+ transactions from the counter in the 20 minutes or so i spent roaming the aisles. am0n's point above holds true though. even at 20% off everything, anything i would seriously consider was either sold out or still too expensive. i'll check in next week.

on another note, i also set foot in one of the last remaining dr. wax stores (i think the only remaining record store (i.e. not borders or b&n) in evanston, though maybe 2nd hand tunes is still around). i was struck by how pitiful it was while flipping through the vinyl. going by the dates on the price tags (y'know the ones on the top that read like "10 06" or "3 28 98"), there were albums in there that hadn't sold in 3, 5, 8 years -- with the same price tag on them. again, i bought nothing.

john, a resident of chicago. (john s), Sunday, 22 October 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Although the Tower chain is on its way out, the 81-year-old patriarch of the stores still keeps his office in the building and goes to work in Sacramento every day planning to open more record stores, a chain he wants to call Resurrection Records. "If I can get the money and the real estate," he says. "It's the only thing I know how to do."

!!?@?@?!@?!$JKL$%&$*

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 22 October 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

If anybody goes down there and sees any of those cheap Gabor Szabo albums Carlos Santana got, pick some up for me and I'll pay you back with interest.

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Sunday, 22 October 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

Before Tower Records opened, all record stores were little mom-and-pop shops with limited inventory that kept business hours and charged list price. Tower sold records cheap, all day and night, and stocked everything.

They might still be around if they kept this policy. They thought they could get by on size alone but with list pricing. I stopped going in the mid 90s mainly because of the price but also discovered Amoeba in Berkeley, the only one at the time.

BeeOK (boo radley), Monday, 23 October 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

My God, could "Resurrection Records" be a USED record store chain?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 23 October 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know but i don't really get when he says "It's the only thing I know how to do." IF U KNO HOW 2 DO IT THEN WHY ARE U BANKRUPT

am0n (am0n), Monday, 23 October 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

Well, for what it's worth, I just got back from peakin' into the Seattle one in Lower Queen Anne, and not only are the prices now truly at the 20% mark, but the employees are now playing nothing but gangsta rap, seemingly (two times in a row, different employees.) I mean, what are complaints from the prudish shoppers going to do? Try to put them out of business? Anyway, It was nice hearing DJ Quik's greatest hits tonight... it's been a while.

Sure, most standard rock/pop is still a rip off but now's the time to swipe through all those dance comp imports, those sound effects CDs, the budget classical, the oldies soul, all the gazillion Tower Special Edition DVD's like Napolean Dynamite, or what not. Sadly, I'm now starting to notice that good stuff is getting harder to find now.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 23 October 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

I might peek in at the Costa Mesa one next weekend, but I think I'll wait until after payday. There won't be much per se but I bet I can do some good Xmas gift shopping at least...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 October 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

xpost fastnbulbous:

i was specifically talking about Amoeba, but it's a great idea for anyone else to try...

something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

snagged a few goodies at the Cambridge store this weekend...(probably I could have waited for another week and another 10% to elapse, but those "if you don't buy it today, it might not be here tomorrow" signs really work on me)...anyway, I got The Sounds Of Monsterism Island comp, the Nitzer Ebb remix CD, Stoned Soul Picnic by Roy Ayers, The Fantastic Expedition Of Dillard & Clark, and Lookin' Out by Terry Callier...(er, those last two I actually bought the previuos weekend)...

hank (hank s), Monday, 23 October 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I might buy the latest issue of Jack Kirby Collector for 30% off. I'd at least think about it.

barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Monday, 23 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

"The Sounds Of Monsterism Island comp"

one of my priorities in life has been to avoid turning into a vinyl figure dork, but i think that fowler's stuff is irresistibly cute, and this compilation really is the shit, isn't it??

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

i keep thinking about dropping in to check the status of those cluster and tangerine dream reissues, but then i'm like, nah, i'll wait until everything is marked down to 5 bucks.

half.com has really turned me into a cheapskate ...

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, Monsterism Island:

it's really good...not that there's a shortage of psych-pop/exotica comps out there at the moment, but this one is a bit broader than most, as has shouldn't-fit-in-but-does stuff like Clarence "Frogman" Henry and The Rattles that I've never heard before...

hank (hank s), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

it reminded me a lot of this 4-hour promotional mix for warp records that broadcast did a while back...

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

which in turn reminds me of that library music comp put out by that dude from Add (N) To X...

hank (hank s), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

did you know?? the first volume of "connectors" goes for like $60 on amazon and ebay!! WTF was i thinking not picking that up when it came out ...

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

you serious?...that thing was going for like 10 bucks at HMV when they had their own liquidation a couple years ago...(hmmm...I wonder what I should be picking up in the $4.99 bin at the Virgin Megastore while I got the chance...I nabbed the first Go-Kart Mozart CD for that price over ther weekend, but I'm not expecting that to be an eBay rarity any time soon)...

hank (hank s), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
stopped by the clark st. chicago store last sunday night. everything was 30% off. i was kinda surprised at how much was still there. next week, i guess the majority of the inventory will be around/under $10. maybe that will be the point where stuff really starts to move.

john, a resident of chicago. (john s), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

i've blown about $250 at west 4th location since this thing started. faure's complete piano music on hyperion for $55 - %40 discount YOWZA!

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 9 November 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

is the general discount 40% yet? not being a classical fiend, I found the worst of both worlds there a couple weeks ago -- still not cheap enough, and depleted enough that you'd hafta dig for good stuff.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

yesterday the tower on wabash in chicago did an extra 10% off.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

All music DVDs are 40% off now. Most CDs and non-music DVDs still at 30%.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 12 November 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

Ive stashed quite a few pricy imports at the Cambridge store, waiting for the 50% sign to go up before pulling the trigger...I feel so squirrelly!

hank (hank s), Sunday, 12 November 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Alexandria, Virginia Tower has rap/r'n'b cds for 40% off--there's not much left in their r'n'b department...

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 12 November 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Just swung by my local one for the first time in this whole shebang -- to my pleasant surprise, a lot of stuff still left, and they had added a further 10% off for today and tomorrow for all CDs so the baseline prices throughout were 40 to 50% off. Got a few things while concentrating on my planned gift shopping, which went v. well!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 November 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, there are definitely "good" deals now. Unfortunately Tower's base prices were so high that even at 60% off takes it down to just "pretty good". I did buy the last copy of Golden Afrique Vol 2 at the Market Tower today, figuring that I was unlikely to see it new for $24 and if I tried waiting until it was less than $20 someone else would probably have grabbed it.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

It ain't perfect but comparing prices on my run today made it the equivalent to a pretty good trawl through the Amoeba used bins, say. Which is fine by me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I agree. The only difference is that most of the stuff that Tower has left is not OHMIGOD I have to have this record right now stuff because I'll never see it for this price again, but more I will buy 50 of these records when they are $6 each but if they are $10-11 I'm not gonna because I'll find it again and it won't kill me not getting it now.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 November 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

Right, right. And like I muttered, it's *perfect* for gift shopping for my family. Combine that with a slight pay raise I got and I'm able to splurge a bit on them properly! There's also enough odd low price gems that turned up in a first run -- that Walter Gibbons box I mentioned on the other thread, for instance -- that I might start making weekly visits from here on in. We'll see!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone happen to know if there is a limit as to how low the prices will go? (Do they just pack everything up and send it off to some other business past a certain point?) Some stuff at the Tower in Philadelphia is still only 30% off.

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 13 November 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

There is still a month or so to go. I'm sure that it will go up soon enough. Esp. if product isn't moving at 30% off.

I doubt there is a limit on some stuff (magazines, crappy shelfing, 12"s, etc) but I doubt that the discount for pop/rock, etc, will go higher than 70-75% unless all that's left is unsellable crap.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

Based on what happened when the Wherehouse went down, it could easily go all the way to 90%. And like Alex says, they will want to get rid of almost *everything.*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Haha well the fact that no one was buying the More Fire Crew albums from the bargain bin when they were 50 cents is making me feel good about there still being some good stuff even at the 90% point.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

There was an additional 10% off at the DC store yesterday but alas, their once plentiful Brazilian section had been picked through pretty heavily. Not too many Fania salsa reissues left either.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

My local Tower is down to 30% off most CDs, which just about brings it to regular prices. The place is still quite well stocked. I'm waiting eagerly for the drop to 60% though, so I can complete my New Order collection at $4 a pop.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Down across the board to 40% now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

i guess i know where i'm going on my lunchbreak then. ;_;

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I gather the goal is still to complete this thing before Xmas, so hopefully more precipitous dropoffs are forthcoming.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

naw everything i've heard says january at the outset. i wouldn't be surprised if prices drop a ton just before xmas tho.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)


The 40% is more appetizing. Seattle's store was looking picked over last week, but still well-stocked with CDs and DVDs. I'm hoping some of the Asia Extreme movies stick around for the 60%+ price drops. When they're the same price as a theater ticket, I'll be happy. Initial retail prices for those DVDs were $27+, versus < $20 online. Very steep. I wonder if they bumped their prices even higher, prior to the liquidation sale.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm waiting for 60%, then box sets here I come!

hank (hank s), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

At the Alexandria, Virginia Tower they have a sign on the door that they're looking to hire people to work during the holiday season, so I think they'll be around to January I guess.

Lots of the box sets at that store and at the DC store are gone, although they have a sign up in the VA store that new stuff is coming in from their warehouse every day. I'm skeptical that there's much left in a warehouse--or at least much left of anything but real popular stuff.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

there's still plenty of box sets at the Cambridge store, probably because they keep 'em behind the counter like they were porno mags or something...

hank (hank s), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's dangerous to look through a discount bin with hstencil. I put it all back but N.Y No Wave.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Vinnie, there will be no new New Order left at 60%... Republic will be flying off the shelves at 40%, even.

All New Order is sold out already at the Tower in Seattle/Lower QA. (although they may stock more later.)

Tower's liquidators are pulling off a great scheme here, I have to admit.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Classical and Jazz have been already rummaged and rendered practically useless at Seattle Tower.

The only domain left where there can be finds still? African.

(ohseattlepaws, etc.)

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

oday:

papa m, "papa m sings" (seanote) cd
rose tattoo, "scarred for life" (repertoire) cd
cristina, "sleep it off" (ze) cd
caspar brotzmann, "mute massaker" (thirsty ear) cd
bodeco, "callin' all dogs" (safe house) cd
windy and carl, "the dream house/dedications to flea" (kranky) 2cd
rufus thomas, "stax profiles" (stax) cd

$67 at 40% discount

also found roky erikson 2cd, lizzy mercier descloux cd, scott walker "the drift" cd various other good things that i already have.

wtf morbs you put back the roky 2cd?!?!? you're insane!!!!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

and donut how do you not already have every new order release?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)


I'm not quite enough a Garage Boy to need that much Roky.

I almost took the Rufus T tho.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of that isn't garage?!? weird.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but you could still put a car in it.

and I didn't even get to the DVD store!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

I had about a hundred fifty bucks of stuff in my hand, but put everything back but the four Funkadelic remasters that I was thinking might be gone by next week (by the way there are more copies of them hiding under the displays if you're in SF and head to the Tower Market--I got scared when I came in and realized the copies I had been coveting over the weekend were gone which was ultimately what convinced me I should buy now!) World and Jazz were heavily picked over, but hip hop is still pretty strong and there are a bunch of good rock/pop things left (no more Eno though haha.) I may make a trip down to the Columbus one this weekend actually.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 November 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

Could not find a single thing I wanted after 45+ minutes of looking. I guess it's just all been picked over already.

Strangely enough, they had at least 20 copies of the Melvins out of print 10 Songs CD (not the 26 Songs version)

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Friday, 17 November 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

I went to the downtown Tower in NYC on Monday. Not too much left in jazz and especially classical - I guess I'll have to get that Mozart flute concerto another time. There was still a fair amount of stuff in rock/pop. I only ended up getting one Creedence Clearwater Revival CD though, which was about $8 after the 40% discount.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Went to the West Covina store today, and it was looking pretty bad. It was picked through pretty hard. Lots of singles left though.

van doh (van smack), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to stence.. i'm not a crazy NO fan actually, so I'm missing Republic and a few other peripheral things, but that message was to someone above who was hoping get NO stuff well after the discount, if I read it correctly.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

went to the LQA store in Seattle today. made off with some old rave comps, the remastered Belle Album, Classic New Jack Swing Mastercuts, and the Ray Charles box. I have more I'm scoping out but not mentioning yet. (This is like playing the stock market, innit? "I'll leave this one till later because it'll still be here but if I don't get this RIGHT NOW I never will see it again.")

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

Is there still much Al Green @ the Seattle store?

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

The remastered Belle album sounds horrible. The version from the mid-90s is much better.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

the one in emeryville is devoid of any interesting records, or at least, anything I wanted. no neil young back catalog, none of the depeche mode remasters, and what imports they had of things were still overpriced even with the 40% off. maybe their stock will adjust later on, but color me disappointed

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 19 November 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Philadelphia Tower needs another week to ripen.

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

(OTOH, a lot of stuff is already gone. I'm mostly waiting for the Latin music to drop down a bit more.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

donut, there is no reason to own "republic."

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

the south st. location has closed!

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I never even made it down there (since the close-out sale started). I mostly just stick to the Broad Street store. I used to go there all the time, but that's a long time ago, when the selection of esoteric imports was better (and I didn't have much cheaper online sources for them).

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I wanted to get a bunch of the cheap freakbeat/girl-group/psych import compilations, but they all disappeared along with their rack before the Dallas store hit 30% off.

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

The Village NYC Tower box sets were pretty ravaged, except for a Van Der Graaf box, a Venom box, and tons of the giant-deluxe cube package version of the last Red Hot Chili Peppers CD.
Plenty of copies of the Scott Walker Drift CD, though i was hoping to nab the super-young Scott disc when he had an Elvis haircut that I kept putting back over the last year.

Does anyone know the close date of this store by chance?

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

donut, there is no reason to own "republic."

Sigh, I know. At this point, the only reason I want it is just for anthological reasons i.e. hey, kid, here is where the gang totally misfired, etc. I still don't have it because I refuse to pay more than a buck for it, although I see it used all the time but for $8 or something and never any less.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

not one thing to buy at the Harvard Square store...after the person that snagged the Comsat Angels cds i hid. i hope you feel a twinge every time you listen to them.

nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

Plenty of copies of the Scott Walker Drift CD

don't rub it in, brian!

no word on close date yet.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

the memphis store is getting a little slim and there is virtually no hip hop left. I picked up the reissues of Can - Soon over Babaluma and John Cale - Paris 1919. When the prices drop again I may pick up the latter era Can reissues (of which they had plenty).

fffnnnsss (fffnnnsss), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

The one on Clark in Chicago had lots of stock left, but really nothing too exciting. As mentioned, the imports are still overpriced even at 40% off. I did grab one of the last two Fall Peel Sessions boxes though, figured $36 was a good deal.

jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

An extremely good deal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

my purchases yesterday at the SF Market St. locale (most from the 60% off already-clearance prices):

hacienda classics 3xCD $20
fierce freestyle 3xCD $13
melchior productions 2xCD $5
villalobos - au harem blahblah $5
the glimmers eskimo mix $4
2manydjs #9 $4
the fall - slates $3
alter ego - transphormer $4
shitmat - english breakfast $4
mark one - one way $4
grime 2 comp on rephlex $4

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

I did grab one of the last two Fall Peel Sessions boxes though, figured $36 was a good deal.

i looked at that today. ended up getting Scott 3 and Scott 4 for less than $20, though. there's still much to be had, but i'm waiting for the 50-60% off daze.

john. a resident of chicago. (john s), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Haha the funny thing about that clearance section is that MOST of the CDs were down at $4-5 a month ago and then they when they went into crazy ass special mode they took down the sticker deal-io which made them 50%/75% off and all the prices went UP. I will miss that clearance bin a lot. As documented above I got some unbelieveably ridiculous deals there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

Fighting Memphis traffic after Thanksgiving would be kind of insane, but I'm tempted to go Wednesday.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Monday, 20 November 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

NYC update: Got Wreckless Eric BBC Sessions, Jospehine Foster and a Saccharine Trust CD. The racks were REALLY depleted of quality stuff, I found most goods mixed up in the dumps. The World section was completely blown through, empty section cards for Bali, Indonesia, etc., and these had hundreds of CDs at one point. Sad.

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Monday, 20 November 2006 05:20 (nineteen years ago)

Fighting Memphis traffic after Thanksgiving would be kind of insane, but I'm tempted to go Wednesday.

isn't thanksgiving uh thursday?

i saw that sacchrine trust cd there, brian!

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 20 November 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

i had the same experience as alex in SF. stuff that had looked appealing at $3.00 is now appalling at import price, less 50%. also they just put out all of the unpriced used stuff with $18.99 stickers, even if it's a 10 dollar domestic disc. and they put it at 50% off.

anyway, somehow the schulze + tangerine dream reissues i wanted to grab are gone now, but i did get a copy of "zeit" and a copy of "alpha centauri" for 7 bucks each. not great, but whatever ...

they still have like 5 copies each of all of the soul jazz comps i don't own and the get physical releases. and a bunch of other dance import stuff that looks vaguely buyable. and a cluster disc i don't have. and they're all single discs marked at tower's default import price of $28.99. hey, at 50% off, they're down now to what i would be willing to pay for them if i was rich!

are they not serious about liquidating, or what?

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 20 November 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

it will suck if they decide that instead of getting down to less than 5 bucks a disc they'd rather sell it all off to half.com or something.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 20 November 2006 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

it's funny to see that the same titles are still plentiful at the different locales...(I guess that's what they call "overstocking")...

hank (hank s), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Fighting Memphis traffic after Thanksgiving would be kind of insane, but I'm tempted to go Wednesday.

---

isn't thanksgiving uh thursday?

I can't figure out your post, stencil. But yes, Thanksgiving is happening on Thursday this year. I might go before Thanksgiving, like maybe Wednesday, to avoid the Friday-Saturday retail frenzy.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

thanksgiving happens on every 4th thursday every year

jack (sweatypalms1234), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

for which we give thanks...

hank (hank s), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Got the last Lincoln Center store copy of Slowdive Catch the Breeze 2xCD for $14.

Man, they have a LOTTA War of the Worlds DVDs.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

right so go wednesday. your syntax don't make sense.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Gram Parsons 'Complete Reprise Sessions' for $21 at the Chicago Wabash location, plus a couple other on the fence titles (F. Furnaces 'Bitter Tea', Kings of Leon's 'Aha Heartbreak', Kooks, Phoenix) for about $8-$9 each. I was expecting it to be even more picked over than it was. Too many "$18.99" titles, though.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Baked beans - I was there too today - good score on the Gram Parsons - darn I wish I saw that - but Fall BBC Box for $36 was well worth the trip - I agree - too much 18.99, plus it's interesting how many bargain titles get tagged with this (touch and go, matador and dischord rekkids) ... Sure wish they had some vinyl records there.

SonicDeath (BlackIronPrison), Monday, 20 November 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

They still had 2 more Gram Parsons sets sitting on the top rack by the Rock/Pop "P" section.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 20 November 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

and tons of the giant-deluxe cube package version of the last Red Hot Chili Peppers CD.

I've been through 4 different Tower locations during this sale.

I'm confident that they will have tons of this particular CD left at the end. It may be all that is left, actually.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

God I went insane but I couldn't help it, shit was cheap . . .

Sly and the Family Stone - Back on the Right Track
Phyllis Hyman - The Essence of Phyllis Hyman
Leonard Cohen - Death of a Ladies Man
Rob Base & DJ E.Z. Rock - It Takes Two
Jack Dangers - Loudness Clarifies
Superlongevity Four
Isolée - Western Store
Pharoah Sanders - Karma
Yello - Solid Pleasure
Mouse on Mars - Varcharz
Chick Corea/Return to Forever - No Mystery
John Coltrane - Live at the Village Vanguard Again!
The Ornette Coleman Trio - At the Golden Circle Stockholm

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

The Ornette Coleman Trio - At the Golden Circle Stockholm

Hehe, I snagged this as well (V. 2)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

Last night in Tower, I was getting really incredibly bad R&B in one ear and opera (which is almost always painful to me) in the other.

Not much left in classical music but rude people with backpacks.

R_S (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Got me some Edan/ "Beauty and the Beat" for about $8. Stock in the Rockville, MD/ Washington, DC locations has been picked through pretty cleanly, though, um, there's still as assoload of copies of "Idwewild" and (oh yes) the deluxe version of "Stadium Arcadium."

ng-unit (ng-unit), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

I guess Tower will at some point just ship the remaining inventory to some internet clearing house, but it'd be interesting if they just kept lowering and lowering tjheir prices, ultimately GIVING stuff away, just so we could see which title would be the last one standing...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Ned Raggett, Pi? Who the hell would want THIS?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Get out of my head, mindreader!

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahah. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I guess Tower will at some point just ship the remaining inventory to some internet clearing house, but it'd be interesting if they just kept lowering and lowering tjheir prices, ultimately GIVING stuff away, just so we could see which title would be the last one standing...

Mark my words, it will be the deluxe boxed edition of the new RHCP cd.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

CD singles now 70% so I picked up four singles (2 Roll Deep ones and 2 M.I.A. ones with neat bonus tracks on them.) Also bought the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra record which I wasn't even aware got reissued. Hip hop is now 50% off and there is still a ton of good stuff there (sadly I've got most of it.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

went to Chicago Wabash ... not yet as picked over as I thought, everything at 40-60% now.. best section by far (that I browsed; I didn't have a chance to hit every section before they closed for the day)was Folk, where I picked up:

Harry Taussig - Fate is Only Once
Henry Flynt - Raga Electric (they had a few other Flynt titles including both volumes of Hillbilly Music)
Michael Hurley - Blueberry Wine (have needed this since selling my "First Blues" on the Bay)
Jerry Yester and Judy Henske - Farewell Aldebaran

also from Blues I picked up

Otis Rush - All Your Love I Miss Loving: Live at Wise Fools Pub

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

DC:
weird weeds - weird feelings
embryo - father sons and holy ghosts
jesus lizard - bang
HAACK: the king of techno

(all 40% off)

Smegma Pi (plsmith), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

good pick up on that weird weeds, dude.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

DC (40% off)

Paul Westerberg - Open Season (soundtrack)
Johnny Cash -- Personal File
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band -- s/t
Billy Joe Shaver -- Restless Wind (1973-1987)
The Mountain Goats -- Get Lonely
Dead Kennedys -- Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables (re-issue)
Charlie Patton -- Primeval Blues, Rags, and Gospel Songs
Destroyer's Rubies
The DFA Remixes Chapter One
Billy Joe Shaver -- Billy and the Kid
The Firesign Theatre -- Shoes for Industry!
June Carter Cash -- The Best of June Carter Cash
Willie Nelson -- The Complete Atlantic Sessions
Mississippi Fred McDowell -- I Do Not Play No Rock 'n' Roll (Complete Session Recordings)
The Golding Institute -- Final Relaxation
The Undertones -- True Confessions (Filed under: Blues)
Steve Martin -- The Steve Martin Brothers

Blues and Country sections >>>>>> everything else

ken noizewater, field researcher: capitools division (Pareene), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah dude - alex put me and zack to SHAME.

Smegma Pi (plsmith), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

btw, 80's-anglophile ilxors near DC should stop in soon; they have like a shit-ton of field mice, associates, felt, etc etc etc

also both patty waters cd's, which i JUUUUUST couldnt pull the trigger on.

Smegma Pi (plsmith), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

ILX TELL ME WHAT TO LISTEN TO FIRST

ken noizewater, field researcher: capitools division (Pareene), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

good pick up on that weird weeds, dude.

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), November 21st, 2006. (hstencil)

yeah youve been big-uppin that - ill let you know what i think

Smegma Pi (plsmith), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

also both patty waters cd's, which i JUUUUUST couldnt pull the trigger on.

-- Smegma Pi (plsmit...), November 22nd, 2006 3:06 AM. (plsmith) (later)

d'oh, YOU LOSE.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, they were listing for 20, wvs no great bargain.

BTW THIS EM-BRO-YO CD IS SWEET

Smegma Pi (plsmith), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wabash Tower is way more picked over than the Clark one. Found nothing down there. At Clark I filled out my Funkadelic Westbound reissues, Al Green, Thin Lizzy, Can, Wire, Serge Gainsbourg tribute, and Lagos-Chop Up compilation. A few things I wanted disappeared, so I figured the good stuff will be mostly gone before it gets to 60%. Once it does I'll browse through everything.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 23 November 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but I already own every lp by Thin Lizzy, Can, Wire, Al Green, Funkadelic and other groups whose absence would commonly qualify as "picked over".

That's why I was super-psyched to find stuff by Taussig, Flynt, Henske/Yester, etc. And all without having to set foot on the north side thank god.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 23 November 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

Tower is having a buy 4 get 1 free deal Thursday and Friday, so if you're waiting for the next price drop, that's an extra 20% off, assuming you can find five CDs you want.

nickn (nickn), Thursday, 23 November 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

I picked up the Ann Peebles box set yesterday, for 34 bucks, and I am in Deep Soul heaven...(yeah, I'm sure it could be had on Amazon for the same price, but it was there, and I was there...I had no choice, really, is what it boils down to...many of youse woulda done the same thing)...

my vote for last record standing is the Bronson Arroyo CD...

hank (hank s), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Still lots of good stuff I wanted at Market St:

Toots & the Maytals Funky Kingston/In The Dark
Downbeat The Ruler: Studio One Instrumentals
Dream Babes 5: Folk, etc

Thomas Mapfumo Spirits To Bite Our Ears: THe Singles Collection
Funkadelic Let's Take It To The Stage

$45 including tax and all.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 23 November 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

This was posted on former industry bizzer Bob Lefsetz's e-mail thing:

A related recent circumstance involved many now former Tower Records employees.

Several hoarded the prime CDs and hid them in stores nationwide.

During the liquidation the best CDs were likely above anyone shopping the stores
hidden in the ceiling panels. Employees stayed on past Tower's handing over to
the liquidation companies at lower wages until the store closed, and then bought
that product at over 90% off on closing day. Odds are they all ended up on Ebay,
Amazon, or in used bins where those employees made a decent profit...

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Wouldn't be in the least surprised.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

wouldn't be in the least offended by this either.

fukasaku tollbooth, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

makes me wanna sneak into the still-vacant Harvard Square location to see if any of those stashes remain...

henry s, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

wouldn't be in the least offended by this either.

Not in the least!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

In memory of the one year anniversary of the final sales date. Or something like that.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:28 (eighteen years ago)

Tower Records in Shibuya, Tokyo (and Shinjuku) still standing tall!

sam500, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:37 (eighteen years ago)

Tower sold their rights to the name and business in Japan years ago. It's not the 'same' Tower.

deedeedeextrovert, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 07:02 (eighteen years ago)

That would be why then. They don't seem to have deviated much from the original Tower template over here. Can't say I buy much from them but they can make for a nice browsing environment when I've had my fill of the (excellent) Disc Union shops.

sam500, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

WHY CAN'T THEY BE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS FOREVER?!?!

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 08:45 (eighteen years ago)

Never forget. (Someone good with photoshop please post crying bald eagle with Tower Records graphics.)

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

When did the Tower store at Piccadilly close? It was replaced by Virgin when I was there in October 2000.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://towerrecordsproject.org/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Create kick-off event to announce the project, website, and fundraising efforts.

Subsequent year plans look ambitious

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

As a former Tower employee who stayed on until the very end, can I say that that "project" is a little nauseating?

The whole philosophy of the company in at least the last ten years of its existence was to cater towards the serious music fan, but they paid their employees minimum wage (or as close to it as they could get away with). So that's how you ended up with the scenario of people behind the counter that hated their jobs and knew very little about the products they were selling. They weren't paid to be the manifesto of the "No Music, No Life / Know Music, Know Life" philosophy. They were paid to be bodies that took your money.

Going back through this thread and reading through (yes, the whole thing) the events as they unfolded was bittersweet. When the second bankruptcy was announced in the Summer of 2006, we were all told that there was nothing to worry about, the company would not be sold to a liquidator.

All of the distributors finally cut Tower's credit line in June. For years (at least the entire time I was there from summer 2004 onwards), the company's philosophy was to order a massive amount of catalogue releases, price them for cheap and hope to turn a bit of profit. In the meantime, when the next month rolled around, every store would take all of its unsold catalogue stuff from the previous month's sale and send it back to the distributors for credit. As you can imagine, this got extremely out of hand. As an example, in the store where I worked, we were basically changing out one-third to one-half of the store's entire stock every month. Little money was made or lost. It was basically breaking even because it was a plan that was seemingly designed to do that, and nothing else.

As far as employees hoarding the good stuff. . . yeah, it happened. A lot. Unauthorized extra discounts, clerks ringing up their buddies for one CD and then letting them take ten, hiding secret stashes in unknown portions of the store to buy on the last day at 95% off or whatever. . . yes, all of that. I never stole or assisted anyone in stealing — I did stash stuff, but I technically paid for it. There was no extra benefit for me sticking around until the end, so that was my parting gift to myself.

But yeah, this new "Tower Project". . . forgive me if I roll my eyes aggressively at that whole idea. It stopped being that "No Music, No Life / Know Music, Know Life" kind of store long before they were in any sort of financial trouble.

Austin, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

I miss the free monthly Pulse magazine they published every month (until their last few years, which is part of why I went there less frequently thereafter). They really should have had tiered pricing, discounting the big hits and catalog items to compete with the discounters that used them as loss leaders. I went to Tower only for obscure stuff that Best Buy or the strip-mall record store didn't sell.

Lee626, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

I have some fairly good memories of making a day out of The Strand, Tower Records on Broadway and Other Music. At the same time, I can't say I have intense nostalgia for Tower. It was probably the best of the chains, by far. It had a lot of listening stations and a good selection. But the employees usually didn't know much and the store didn't have the greatest vibe -- very institutional and impersonal. I miss the days of spending hours in record shops in general, and Tower was a place I often did that, so to that extent I miss it, but I don't really care about this project tbh.

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

I always liked HMV more

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

two years pass...

Not sure if this was posted on another thread--amazing footage of Tower Records from 1971.

http://archive.org/details/casacsh_000018

I was never in there. But it looks to be pretty close to how I remember Sam the Record Man from the '70s.

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:51 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

There's a certain sameness to the testimonials in All Things Must Pass: The Rise and Fall of Tower Records, but it was actually better than I expected, mostly because of Russ Solomon. Glad I got a chance to work in a downtown record store for a couple of years just as vinyl was beginning to disappear ('86-88). For the decade before that, I spent half my waking hours in record stores; like Keaton in Sherlock Jr., I wanted to climb into the old footage of the store in the '70s and spend a few years browsing those $1.77 and $2.77 bins. I wish there had been even more time spent on the '70s--the film kind of blurs the years between the advent of the LP and the launch of MTV--but very good on the forces that brought everything to a close. Solomon visiting one of the still-thriving Japanese stores (with George Harrison's title song playing overtop) made for a nice ending.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 05:05 (ten years ago)

By advent of the LP, I mean the moment in the mid-'60s when it starts to overtake 45s as a consumer object.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 05:06 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

And RIP to the man. There are worse ways to bow out:

http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article203542104.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 March 2018 21:09 (eight years ago)

oh wow, RIP

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 01:18 (eight years ago)

Indeed.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 03:30 (eight years ago)

So many great memories of Tower Records in Boston and New York... Late night runs in desperate hope they have that album I just read about, in-store signing with Andy Partridge, many many "I can't believe they have this" CDs that still mean a great deal to me, most of my original Flying Nun discs from their incredibly well-stocked import section.

I love the modern convenience of Amazon, Discogs, etc but the tactile browsing experience was critical to my musical development.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 14:10 (eight years ago)

92 years old.

Many fond memories of the DC store

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 22:05 (eight years ago)

We didn't get one in Toronto until the mid-'90s. Vinyl was finished by then, and I only occasionally bought used CDs. So I think I set foot in it--a pretty big space on Yonge St.--no more than once or twice. It closed down after around five years.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 22:10 (eight years ago)

two months pass...

Crossposted from the US politics thread...

An anecdote from the 1990s that illustrates how Donald Trump thinks about money and his almost comical obsession with being cut in on profits he thinks he's entitled to. (Provided by someone who witnessed it)

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) May 9, 2018

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 23:26 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

It’s back (I guess) – selling difficult-to-browse vinyl, CDs, etc. via mail order: https://towerrecords.com/

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Monday, 16 November 2020 04:57 (five years ago)

I love everything about this, including the late 90s site design

DJP, Monday, 16 November 2020 14:27 (five years ago)

they have an entire category just for colored vinyl.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 16 November 2020 16:22 (five years ago)

Surprised this popped up as "news" this week, did they have an official launch or something? This has definitely been up and going for at least six months, but I found it so clunky that I never did more than a quick peek at it in the past.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 November 2020 16:25 (five years ago)

It's hella clunky... try searching for an artist w/a large discography, and enjoy an endless scroll of big, duplicative cover-art squares, with no info except price (until you click into each one).

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Monday, 16 November 2020 16:30 (five years ago)

also - Dylan's first album is credited to The Band: https://towerrecords.com/products/bob-dylan-bob-dylan-6

their database is probably full of errors like that (unless I really "got lucky" with my random pick).

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Monday, 16 November 2020 16:31 (five years ago)

Artist + album search seems to work fine

dece prices

brimstead, Monday, 16 November 2020 16:34 (five years ago)

two years pass...

*squints*

https://variety.com/2023/music/news/tower-records-brooklyn-pulse-magazine-1235546808/

Also, for history: the sandbox thread where we ran down the final days of the actual chain is here:

https://sandbox.ilxor.com/sandbox/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=142&threadid=84

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 March 2023 03:10 (three years ago)

it seems weird that they’d *start* the relaunch on the East coast since (to me) it’s such a west coast name? idk

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 March 2023 03:23 (three years ago)

four months pass...

(Cross posting myself from the podcasts thread)

I have been mainlining 2500 DelMonte Street - The Oral History of Tower Records. Capital-R Rockist and heavy on inside baseball talk and can often stray into a a therapeutic debriefs - especially when the guests talk about the end of the company. You could skip much of that, unless you want to know more about how 21st Century predatory capitalism works.

OTOH, the stories are totally insane. For starters, look for any episodes about the Sunset Blvd. store if you want to know more about situations like: Prince showing up and wanting to play a midnight show, Brian Wilson opening his bathrobe and peeing all over someone's Mustang convertible, Keith Moon really really wanting to drive the double-decker bus that's parked at the back of the lot. Don Rickles shows up to buy albums. So does Sinatra. So does the Shah of Iran. Iggy Pop is trying to make a collect call but the operator doesn't believe the name so Iggy is shouting "P-O-P POP"

Tower was the only record store I ever wanted to work at - all through the 1980s the El Toro store was my main hangout. An unimaginable number of times when is seemed that the best decision in life was to grab a carne asada burrito at Carmels at the other side of the parking lot and then walk it off inside Tower. I can detail, at length, my bike there from Laguna to get a copy of Scary Monsters when it went on sale. The hilarious pileup of fans when Pink Floyd's A Delicate Sound Of Thunder and Rush's Hold Your Fire were released on the same day. I saw the Dream Syndicate there in 1982. I wish I had video of the T.S.O.L. gig that was shut down by the cops. The 10pm to midnight crew played the best albums: The Dreaming, Avalon, Head Over Heels, A Kiss In The Dreamhouse, Big Science onandonandonandon. All of them I first heard on that monster 300W stereo system on demo from Pacific Stereo who conveniently just happened to be next door.

That line that folks use: we didn't know just how great it was? Good fucking grief...

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 07:32 (two years ago)

My boss was in Tokyo and got me a bright yellow Tower Records Shubiya t-shirt (I guess the only remaining stores are in Japan?). Fun thing to wear...

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 15:41 (two years ago)

I worked at the Tower at 4th and Broadway in Manhattan for a few months in the early 90s. As jobs go, it was easy, but paid almost nothing, especially for NYC. On the plus side, it was a great place for celebrity sightings, as well as in-store appearances. The highlight had to be an in-store performance by Nirvana just as Nevermind came out. They played for about 45 minutes, and the lasting impression I have of them was that they were really fucking loud.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

Slash worked/shoplifted at tower

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:52 (two years ago)

My boss was in Tokyo and got me a bright yellow Tower Records Shubiya t-shirt (I guess the only remaining stores are in Japan?).

I'm not very nostalgic about record stores but walking through Tower Records in Shibuya was awesome. Where I got my copy of Kalk Samen Kuri no Hana

Vinnie, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:00 (two years ago)

On my first visit to Tokyo, I was delighted to have to walk past a mini Tower Records in the concourse leading to Shiodome Metro station every day for a week, it was very well stocked and I bought a bunch of Shiina Ringo there too!

MaresNest, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:16 (two years ago)

I do have to say, I met Russ Solomon, and he was quite creepy.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:51 (two years ago)

Yeah, after listening to enough of these episodes I'm content to have been a happy customer

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 05:25 (two years ago)


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