Predict the Lineup of Lollapalooza 2004

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Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

seeking "blend of success, credibility", chops a must.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

own transportation a plus.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Art Garfunkel

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Gone

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Lock thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

what's wrong?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The Cure.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Please, God, no, NOT a Loretta/Jack duetty thing. Spare her some dignity.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, ha! I predicted the Cure without even reading the article.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Frightening thought if they're on there. I want my three hour sets!

"What I really want to tell you is that most of the artists that commercial alternative radio broke in the late '90s suck and are over," he offers. "If you want to program anything with substance, you're dealing with artists that have some kind of meaning and legacy, and ultimately, they're all going to be perceived as old, other than Jack White and a few others."

I find this funny.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Little Jimmy Scott
The Skatellites
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
The Woggles
Blues Hammer
The Postal Service
Bread

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

They all get together at the end and sing "Free to Be You and Me," right?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Totally. With D4v3 Gr0hl on drums of course.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Then I'm there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Just think: they could get any number of Anticon guys.

Scary, huh?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard that the lineup was rumored to be:

Morrissey/Sonic Youth coheadlining
Willie Nelson
Flaming Lips
String Cheese Incident

and some others I forgot..

I'd actually go if only to see Willie and Morrissey, who I have never seen before....Sonic Youth and Flaming Lips I like live alot as well....(although FL's needs some new live schtick ASAP)...don't know alot about String Cheese, I think they are a jam band.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, they suck.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Nu Shooz
3rd Bass
Cody ChesnuTT (w/ Rockwell)
Deep Blue Something
Simple Plan
Body Count
Thor

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i Heard somthing about nine inch nails.

scott moth, Monday, 15 March 2004 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Addressing his return to the booking process after not participating in last year's edition, Geiger says, "I can assure you, as long as I'm involved, it wouldn't be anything but very cutting edge."

Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Jordy
Sigh
Me'Shell N'degeocello
Vaughn Meader
Marissa Marchant
Isis
William Hung

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 01:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Half Japanese

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Aren't the Pixies reunion rumored to be headling w/Sonic Youth?.....That would be cool, but not as cool as Willie Nelson/Moz....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

sonic youth's name has definitely been brought up a few times.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Fugazi
Audio Two
The Muffs
Sly & Robbie
Celtic Frost
King Sunny Ade
Green Apple Quickstep
Army of Lovers

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

um, i heard that it was going to be string cheese incident and gomez.

maura (maura), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"the muffs: bringing mediocre punk to rock fests for over 10 years!"

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i bet kim shattuck has aged terribly. oh where have you gone, oh boners of my youth...

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, what's Jordy up to these days?

If Willie's there, I'm there.

billstevejijm, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Jane's Addiction
The Cure
Pixies
Nine Inch Nails
Morissey
Sonic Youth
String Cheese Incident
Atmosphere

jonviachicago, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd go for SY and the Pixies FER SURE

LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess wins (tho I'd sub in Truly for Green Apple Quickstep).

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

these lineups look like they'd be more approrpiate for lollapalooza 1994. but i suppose anything is better than the emo/pop-punk/nu metal craptacular that would go down if they tried to appeal to the kiddies and their parents money.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

im just gonna say which bands i think should be at Lollapalooza 2004 this summer: Nine Inch Nails, Tool, The Darkness, Beastie Boys, Primus, Foo Fighters, Velvet Revolver, and N.E.R.D.

Paul Lynch, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

my list:

cure
pixies
nine inch nails
sonic youth
morrissey
missy elliott
yeah yeah yeahs
peaches

bryan bryan, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Ford Focus
Playstation
Sprite
Target
McDonlads
Best Buy

suzisweeps, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Billy Corgan

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure which list that's supposed to be a continuation of

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Maroon 5 (I might be interviewing them!)
Tenacious D
that band w/Juliette Lewis in it
Dizzee Rascal
Eagles of Death Metal
Get Up Kids
Ani Difranco
Clutch
Mason Jennings
Danger Mouse
Probot
The Prodigy (electronica is takin' ovah!)

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If NIN, the Pixies, and SY are playing Lollapalooza this year, not only will I go, but I will strip completely naked, smear my entire body with peanut butter and black olives, and run multiple laps around my neighborhood for six straight hours screaming "I'm a purple leprechaun" in a display of pathetic fanboy glee.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 06:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Though I'm not sure in what sense you meant that list, christhamrin, Juliette Lewis's band is actually playing the Warped tour.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Lollapalooza 2004

Beastie Boys
The Flaming Lips
311
Sound Tribe Sector 9
Galatic
Mos Def/Talib Kweili
The Darkness
Hot Hot Heat
Banyan

Mo Boyles, Thursday, 18 March 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Interpol
Whirlwind Heat
White Stripes
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Peaches
Eagles of Death Metal
Maroon 5
Burden Brothers
Dead Pres

PeatLa, Thursday, 18 March 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What? No Slipknot?

Paul Bahou, Saturday, 20 March 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

lollapalooza 2004

cradle of filth
michael moore
minor threat reunion
old and in the way
dubtribe
spice girls
Karl denson's tiny universe
Hank williams III
the streets
!tchung!
children of bodom
brotha lynch hung
mdfmk
gwar
and neil diamond

that is just what I heard, though

blm, Saturday, 20 March 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Jane's Addiction
NIN
Green Day
Foo Fighters
N*E*R*D
&
Zwan.

idgj, Monday, 22 March 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

David Bowie
white Stripes
Pixies
Flaming Lips
The Streets
The Darkness
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Modest Mouse

llerth, Monday, 22 March 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet Honey in the Rock
P
Bela Fleck & The Flecktones
Loud Lucy
Hell on Earth (with onstage suicide at every stop)
Mind Science of the Mind
Chi Ali
Bill Medley and Jennifer Warnes

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The Pixies
Bush
Velvet Revolver
Sonic Youth
Galactic
White Stripes
Green Day

NIN is NOT doing lolla 2004... i am almost 100% sure of this.. Who the fuck wants to see morrisey, he is an old man. And the cure is friggin goth rock. The 2003 lineup will be hard to beat...

Mikey Tysh, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

-Beastie Boys
-The Roots
-The Pixies
-Morrissey
-N.E.R.D.
-The Yeah Yeah Yeahs
-String Cheese Incident
-The Polyphonic Spree

Randy Reiss (undeadsinatra), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

depressingest thread evah

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Stooges
Frampton
Grand Funk
Earth Wind & Fire
Sabbath
Dolly
The Eagles

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew WK w/ Wolf Eyes
The Pixies
Iggy and the Stooges
RHCP
Sonic Youth
Green Day
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
The Flaming Lips
Evanescence

LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the fuck wants to see morrisey

Where to begin.

The 2003 lineup will be hard to beat...

I ponder you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the following as a headliner: Green Day, Sonic Youth, The Cure, or Jane's Addiction

AFI
N*E*R*D
The Darkness
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Modest Mouse

NIN + Sonic Youth + The Pixies + all the headliners mentioned above all on the same bill would surely equal a depressingly high pricetag, something which the organizers usually tend to avoid

I would guess by this point that Woodstock '04 is definitely not happening.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Elmo and Patsy
Mindflayer
Jim Belushi and the Sacred Hearts
K's Choice
Scissorfight
Vitamin C
Ottmar Liebert
Mountain

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthrax
De La Soul
Van Halen
The Darkness
Prince
311
The Police

Ringmaster, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Pixies
The Darkness
N.e.r.d.
modest mouse
The Streets
The Hives
Eagles of Death Metal
The Unicorns
The Constantines
Give
I have a good source from MCA Canada.

Issac Brock, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That last band sounds like a loser.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the cure
beastie boys
Out Kast
blink 182
hot hot heat
libertines
the unicorns
no yes no
fiery furnaces


does any one know for sure if its really gunna happen?
please perry

solo, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

STOOGES
KRAFTWERK
BLINK
THE MARS VOLTA
DASHBOARD
JET
BRAN NEW
SHALAC
CHINGY
MY MORNING JACKET
AIR
THE CORAL
THE CONSTANTINES
SLOAN
BEANS
!!!

IN THE KNOW, Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

matos OTM

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 March 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesse Camp and the 8th Street Kidz
Nice and Smooth
Johnny Clegg & Savuka
George Winston
Jill Sobule
Dillinger Escape Plan
Frente
Wrecks-n-Effect

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The concert is 2 days per city. The confirmed list is

String Cheese Incident
NIN,
Sonic Youth,
Morrisey,
Flaming Lips,
Pixies,
The Cure,
Interpol
Libertines
Atmosphere

These bands are CONFIRMED!!! For a further indication of what is happening lookup the Coachella Festival lineup and it's pretty good indication of what will be on it.

trevor harding, Friday, 26 March 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

the pixies arent probably going to play, because they have confirmed dates in europe in both july and august. stay smokin'

blm, Saturday, 27 March 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I should care about that lineup, but I don't. (Mainly because, well, fuck if I'm going to give any money to String Cheese Incident and Interpol for a start.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 March 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

How many confirmed dates in august and july for the Pixies?

trevor harding, Saturday, 27 March 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned in not-excited-to-see-the-Cure SHOCKAH!

anode (anode), Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the line up should have maybe some of these bands:


SLIPKNOT
KORN
INCUBUS

dustin j. russekk, Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned in not-excited-to-see-the-Cure SHOCKAH!

I've been spoiled with three hour Cure shows. Cure festival sets are nowhere near as interesting.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

god damn morrisey and the cure should not fucking be on this damn list

dustin j. russekk, Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Remove NIN from it as well = I'd get to see them all tour separately = HOORAY!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Primus
Outkast
Pixies
N.E.R.D.
Muse
The Darkness
Tenacious D
The Flaming Lips

And it is thusly that the cream enters the jeans.......

Justin, Monday, 29 March 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Liars and TV on the Radio

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 29 March 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ben Boyer's lineup would be the greatest concert of all time

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 March 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

No need to guess anymore. Here's the line-up.


Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Morrissey, Flaming Lips, Sonic Youth, String Cheese Incident, Polyphonic Spree, Modest Mouse set to headline main stage.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"This summer we will embody the spirit of the Gypsy, the sense of exhilaration; traveling by caravan! Thirty bands and buses of artisans sleeping over each and every city. The days and nights will be filled with mischief"

God I hate Perry Farrell.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

You are not alone. Anyway, if this does mean no Cure/Pixies/NIN, and since I should be seeing El Moz in about three weeks or so, then I can completely and happily ignore Lolla entirely, yay me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh. I hope SY at least does a club tour in the fall, because I'm definitely not going to suffer through the rest of the Lolla lineup.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

String Cheese Incident, Polyphonic and Modest Mouse as 'headliners' = YARGH. Why didn't they just add Jack Johnson and Coldplay while they were at it?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Morrissey playing Lollapalooza is all kinds of wrong.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Not to mention SY -- I thought they had more self-respect.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Moz to crowd: "THANK YOU, sunburned jocks ready for a frat life! This song is about your suppressed homoeroticism."

As for Sonic Youth, remember -- this is the *second* time they've headlined Lollapalooza! A mark of distinction they can share with Jane's! Er.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

You are not alone. Anyway, if this does mean no Cure/Pixies/NIN, and since I should be seeing El Moz in about three weeks or so, then I can completely and happily ignore Lolla entirely, yay me.

damn you californians! I deserve to see moz in three weeks!!! argh.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

As should all the Good People, I agree. If I could get El Diablo and you out here, I would, but I haven't robbed enough banks recently.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd go just to see morrissey stand in front of 10,000 college-age concert-goers and realize his complete irrelevance.

shut up, Monday, 29 March 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

yes Sonic Youth have so much self-respect that they headlined the thing in 1995

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, but the String Cheese Incident? Anyone who would willingly share the bill with those clowns should probably retire right now.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, what does "self-respect"--whatever that means in this context--have to do with it? prorated, there are just as many bad or worse bands at Coachella, but that's not stopping anyone from crowing over it. and nevermind that Lolla's lineup looks like it was pulled out of a hat, and that I laughed out loud at the lineup when I saw it earlier today--it's sort of fascinating that this mishmash (by which I certainly mean the bands you all like as well as the ones I do, which probably aren't the same bands) even exists, much less is going to tour America in the summer.

xpost w/Ned on SY obv.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone who would willingly share the bill with those clowns should probably retire right now.

Maybe the conclusion of the String Cheese Incident's show will be a ritual disembowling -- but unlike with Alice Cooper's executions, for real.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry to offend you again, Matos. I just think it is a really weak lineup.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not offended! it's funny to me that people are so up in arms about it, is all. (myself included!)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd go just to see morrissey stand in front of 10,000 college-age concert-goers and realize his complete irrelevance.

Couldn't you say that about all the other acts too, though? Or are the String Cheese Incident somehow relevant, say? (They should headline their own tour with Ben Harper and Pete Yorn.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

relevant or not, i imagine there will be far more enthusiasm in the crowd for the flaming lips or modest mouse than for morrissey (or the string cheese incident).

shut up, Monday, 29 March 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I sadly fear you are all too right with Modest Mouse. And this doesn't make THEM relevant.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

though I'm not so much "up in arms" as amazed that the lineup is what it is--the word "flailing" comes to mind. and shut up is absolutely OTM, though I'll wager more SCI fans will show (jam fans tend to be pretty open-eared, which doesn't mean I agree with their tastes very much) than Morrissey ones (and if they do they'll come right at the end because they're there for one reason only) (all of these generalizations are open to mockery, obv.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, please--lots of people enthusiastic about something is the DEFINITION of relevance in pop

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

relevence is meaningless...also, Sonic Youth and Flaming LIps aren't exactly spring chickens either....I'd say there will be more Gen X nostaglists like myself there than college agers.

If you think there will be more people into Modest Mouse than Morrissey, I think you are very, very wrong and underestimate the size of Moz's cult considerably (seriously, given his new Latino fanbase and emo-band cult hero status isn't he probably MORE relevant than Modest Mouse's 90s indie?)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

or one definition, and a large one.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

or one definition, and a large one.

One definition indeed. Last year Iron Maiden sold out ampitheatres across the States and had a top ten and top twenty single in the UK = yay relevance! (And that's a damn sight more than Modest Mouse will achieve.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

also Matos OTM about jam fan's open-mindedness....I used to live above some hippies and they would genuinely give any whatever somewhat strange indie stuff I'd play for them a fair shake and usually be like "hey that's kinda cool"....I always found that admirable

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

honestly, I was a superbig modest mouse fan circa the lonesome crowded west and I'm not really sure I care about seeing them anymore....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, if you think for a second that because you dislike Modest Mouse now it's even remotely the same thing as Iron Maiden 15-20 years after their peak popularity you're kidding yourself big-time. which isn't to say I find MM all that relevant myself either, but still.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

let's amend the above, then: a lot of people enthusiastic about something happening right now = relevance, or a big definition. I think that says what I wsa trying to say above more clearly. and again, who knows how many people are still enthusiastic abotu MM--I'm not, particularly (the new record's OK but I haven't dived into it yet, and I don't imagine it'll end up a major favorite), and you don't have to be--that isn't the argument.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Tag Team
Friends Forever
Dennis Quaid and the Sharks
Primitive Radio Gods
M/A/R/R/S
Candy Dulfer
The Coup
Neon Hunk
Tom Cochrane


Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

a lot of people enthusiastic about something happening right now = relevance, or a big definition

Of course! But the distinctions get fuzzier the more time passes -- so what's more or less important, a band that formed in 1977 and released a new album recently or one that formed in 1993 and are about to release a new album, and both of which have loyal fanbases that attract derisive comments and etc.? Obviously I'm using both bands here as Macguffins, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, re-reading Ned's post makes me realize we're in complete agreement except for how to phrase it.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

a big happy xpost

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Woo etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Peaches O'Dell and her Royal Orchestra
Coalesce
Raffi
KRS-ONE (Spoken Word)
Jimmy Buffet and the Coral Reefers
Sunburned Hand of the Man
Chuck Brown and the Soul Searchers
USAISAMONSTER
Reigndance
Bif Naked

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry. Amusing self. Will stop soon.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Crash Test Dummies
US Maple
Godspeed You Black Emperor
MC Lyte
Ben Harper
The Exploited
Arrested Development
New Order
The Used

Lil' Won Jilliams (ex machina), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

STRING CHEESE!!!!

Austin, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Beyonce Knowles
Harry Knowles
Harry and the Hendersons
Soundgarden
Toby Keith
Sonic Youth
Morrisey
Heart
Belly Up and the Kleenex Contingent
Your Mama's Perfect, Soft Elderly Asshole
Wilco
String Cheese Incident
Puppet Show
Spinal Tap/Jazz Oddyssey

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonic Youth
Swell
Flaming Lips
Pixies,
The Cure,

Robert owes, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I figured there be one token hiphop act like in the old days...

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

y'know, if they're going for tokenism, then why the Flaming Lips AND the Polyphonic Spree?

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm amazed that most people on this thread seem to know more about SCI than I do (ok, very little).

Ben Boyer - please stop/don't stop

Beyonce Knowles
Harry Knowles

LOL

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

For what it's worth, Sonic Youth were absolutely incredible when they headlined in 95.

And did anyone mention that Lolla is now a two-day event? Forgive me for sounding very un-punk, but holy shit are people going to be filthy and smelly. Nothing like a two-day concert in the middle of the summer.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

BOREDOMS!!!

Joe Andrews, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like Morrissey, Wiley and the bug to be there and would rather distractly listen to most of the lineup of the no fun fest (except sy) than stuff like Pixies, the Cure, Nine Inch Nails, so I hope someone from lollapalooza will try to book em.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Eagle Eye Cherry
Pleasurehorse
Andrea Bocelli
Long Beach Dub All Stars
Me Phi Me
Paul Carrack
El Guapo
400 Blows
Billy Gilman

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Killer lineup.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Need New Body
Icy Blu
Harkonen
Another Bad Creation
Michael Flatley
Schneider TM
The Gourds
Holy Modal Rounders
Divine Styler

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

to the guy that named a bunch of bands and said "these are CONFIRMED"
are you ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY sure and can you give me any kind of proof

if NIN does end up on the bill... i will be there soo fast

mark, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

sonic youth is udder shit! i have walked out of two of there sets and if they play lolla this year it will make a third. as for the lips i have seen them twice and it is the most entertaining thing i have ever... EVER seen! Moz is a legend and deserves every ounce of respect and buzz the man gets. Modest Mouse makes some of the most creative music i have ever heard. and the pollyphonic spree are just a bunch of wack jobs in robes but i'm sure there fun shit live. now if you dont like the line up quit bitching fuck off you dont have to go nobody is going to force you to cough up the cash pay for a ticket drive to a venue and watch a bunch of bands.

Scary Gary, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

oooh. scary.

Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Modest Mouse is crap; I weep for my generation.

Lil' Won Jilliams (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

King Missile III
JOnathan Richman
John Frusciante
Aimee Mann
The Thrown UPs
and Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks

ryan e, Thursday, 1 April 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

it would be dope to see the cure since & since smith released the b sides, i expect he's looking for a tour...

as for other bands; audioslave's already listed their tour dates as to include lollapalooza. excellent. chris cornell's falsetto is outstanding.

other slam bands:
washington social club
Lying in States
white stripes
palaxy tracks

plus a euro inclusion i'd opt for:
faithless
massive attack
agent orange

and smaller bands i'd like to see given sidestage;
army of me
the funky meters
cordalene
ok go
si*se

uknowbetter, Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

sonic youth is udder shit!

Modest Mouse makes some of the most creative music i have ever heard

wow...I've never met someone who actually lives in Bizarro world! nice to meetcha!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

My ideal Lolla:

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hey Ned and Diablo, you guys are idiots for bashing SCI. this is actually an amazingly talented group of musicians who make a wide range of music. they are incredibly popular right now and have been hosting their own 5,000 person festival in Oregon for the last 4 years.

dont knock what you've never heard.

and if you attend Lolla 2004 you will be amazingly surprised at the String Cheese fans... they will appear in full force and be quite vocal.

ischne01, Friday, 2 April 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

String Cheese Incident: Respect their Gangsta

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Jam band fans are pretty hardcore.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

hey Ned and Diablo, you guys are idiots for bashing SCI

I shall proceed to lose a couple of milliseconds of sleep tonight over your complaints.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

and if you attend Lolla 2004 you will be amazingly surprised at the String Cheese fans... they will appear in full force and be quite vocal

no doubt...this almost seems like a veiled threat at Ned and Diablo....keep one eye up homiez (and rock the hemp kevlar at Lollapalooza if you go)....I know Ned always stays strapped (and beats up homeless people) so he should be fine...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I know Ned always stays strapped (and beats up homeless people)

No, I just knife hobos. I could however knife String Cheese fans. And string cheese fans at that -- I never saw the appeal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the difference between hobos and homeless people? (or hobos and jam band tour people)?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

SLIPKNOT
KORN
INCUBUS

Any lineup that includes Korn is the real joke, brother.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

They could call it the SKI tour.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the difference between hobos and homeless people? (or hobos and jam band tour people)?

Usually, working showers.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the difference between hobos and homeless people? (or hobos and jam band tour people)?

I don't go around knifing homeless people, that's cruel. But hobos, you know, that's different.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

well, you've got to have your principles

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

They could call it the SKI tour.

The choices would be rather limited at the concession stand, though.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

well, you've got to have your principles

I'll have your principle FOR BREAKFAST.

http://www.musicmail.com.br/capa591.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

>what's the difference between hobos and homeless people?

The former get bylines.

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Friday, 2 April 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

RE: "Ticket prices are looking to come significantly down from last year."

Yeah, but if it's a 2-day festival, it will obviously cost more to see all of the bands anyway.

billstevejim, Friday, 2 April 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I only knife hobos if they're dressed better than me, which makes me a serial killer

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 2 April 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

not so headliners should be...

The Mars Volta
Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks
Nada Surf
The Postal Service
The Unicorns (oh yes)
Quasi

Sean Lawrence, Sunday, 4 April 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The internet certainly brings out all the musically illiterate people. If you don't know SHIT about music SHUT UP!!! eg. sonic youth is crap, morrisey is irrelavent. You people suck and have know concept of a musical community with a diverse line up. Sure Lolla has sucked really bad...for a long time...but this is good news for music. There is 24 plus bands to still be announced so how could you complain!! Maybe if you went to Lollapaloza 1991 and saw the impact it had on music (grunge movement?) you would get it. But you weren't born yet and are hooked on X-games. Have fun at the Warped Tour!! Losers

r u serious, Monday, 5 April 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The internet certainly brings out all the musically illiterate people.

As opposed to being functionally illiterate...

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

and if you attend Lolla 2004 you will be amazingly surprised at the String Cheese fans... they will appear in full force and be quite vocal.

I'm sure they will be. The only thing worse than dirty smelly hippies is loud dirty smelly hippies.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe if you went to Lollapaloza 1991 and saw the impact it had on music

oh I was there in those fateful times! when music mattered, maaaaan! I remember when they warned us about the brown acid...and then Living Color came on and told us the New Jersey Turnpike was closed...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

also, seeing Butthole Surfers doing "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" for the first time will always be one of my most treasured memories...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah, did they actually do that? I remember little of their set, it was very warm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember them firing an air rifle, and that's about it.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, that's right -- except apparently here they fired off an actual shotgun.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

KORN

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

God damn keyboard.

Anyway, I was at that crappy lollapalooza where korn dropped out due to drummer having spinal meningitis or something like that. apparently the communication within the korn fan club is pretty poor because there were about a hundred pissed off korn fans/frat boys and they made their displeasure manifest by being a drunken, unruly lot and repeatedly calling the lead singer of james a homo.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

james and korn on the same bill...that's nuts...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, i agree with anyone who says the line up sucks, its terrible, about the only band i would go to see is the flaming lips, but im not willing to sit around all day to wait for one band i sort of like. As much as i realize that fantasizing of great tour headliners is over, this would be mine.

Tool
NIN
Radiohead
30 Seconds to Mars
The Mars Volta
The Music
team sleep

now thats a real alternative tour.

bryce, Sunday, 11 April 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the music?

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 11 April 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1486303/20040409/farrell_perry.jhtml?headlines=true

"Although it was risky, I was absolutely sure we should build one lineup that incorporated the jam culture, because I experienced it and felt it was ready. Maybe once in a decade there will be a musical movement that is indicative of what is really going on. And in the jam community [as opposed to the indie-rock scene], I felt like the music was leading and the media was following."

Farrell's hoping to create some electronic-rock hybrids of his own with an electronic-music tent that will also feature live musicians who happen to drop by.

With a lineup that promises to expand greatly as the show's first show, July 14 at Seattle's White River Amphitheatre, nears (Gomez and Black Rebel Motorcycle Club have been added to the initial list of artists), a single day just wasn't enough. So Farrell is stretching this year's Lolla experience across two days — a plan he expects will enhance the caravanlike aesthetic.

After the first day's festivities are over, Farrell hopes concertgoers will reconvene at a downtown club to continue the party. He's even expecting some fans to attend multiple shows in different cities and is looking into creating multiple-show packages that include hotel accommodations.

Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Sunday, 11 April 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Gomez and Black Rebel Motorcycle Club have been added to the initial list of artists

The cutting edge!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 April 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

why not the levellers?

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm telling ya, Green Apple Quick Step's time is now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Farrell's hoping to create some electronic-rock hybrids of his own with an electronic-music tent that will also feature live musicians who happen to drop by.

"This year we're building a place on-site that will be especially for electronic music, but it's going to have a setup that includes Fender amps, keyboards and a percussion area," he said. 'Musicians can come and jam with electronic artists, which should add a new spin on things.'

This sounds like it has an outside chance of being excruciatingly awful at every single venue.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 April 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It's kinda funny -- and almost touching, really -- how Farrell clings to certain notions about musical hybridization and cross-cultural dialogue that may have seemed provocative ten years ago but now look corny or utterly obvious now.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 April 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Well it's funny you should say all that because I remember him trying that very thing with the aftershow club/get-together/whatever type thing in the midnineties with at least one Lollapalooza, but I can't remember the exact name or tied in with the festival it was. So you, sir, are OTM. (I think Traci Lords headlined one night!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Black Rebel Motorcyle Club may have a more annoying fanbase than Interpol even!

Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Monday, 12 April 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

You people are way too bitchy....do you like anything?

tg-611, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

We like you. Intensely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's kinda funny -- and almost touching, really -- how Farrell clings to certain notions about musical hybridization and cross-cultural dialogue that may have seemed provocative ten years ago but now look corny or utterly obvious now.

That's what I was thinking.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

-The Melvins
-Arab Strap
-Men of porn
-RHCP
-A band I dont know
-Mars Volta
-Modest Mouse
-Flaming lips
-Billy Talent
-This year American Idols' winner
-Motorhead
-Dizzee Rascalz
-Sonic Youth
-Belle and Sebastian
-Another band I've never heard of
-Brandy and Monica (reunion show)
-Zero 7
-Mum
-Sam Roberts
-Exhumed
-Ned Raggett
-Scissorfight
-Rick Flair (spoken word)
-Aerosmith (Tribute to Wesley Willis)
-Billy Corgan

This is very very very very official, trust me I think I'm still Perry Farrel's brother in law

duds, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The implication that I'm *not* doing a spoken word disturbs me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

spoken word SET, rather.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact, you're doing an artistic performance with one piece of your body, I dont know wich one yet, while listening your favorite music.

duds, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The small of my back, surely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

In other Lollapalooza news, experimental rock act Wolf Eyes will appear on
the tour's second stage, at the behest of Sonic Youth principal Thurston
Moore. "I told our agent, 'just give me three bands I can book [for the
tour],' and so far he's given me one, or one-and-a-half," Moore jokes to
Billboard.com.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

added to line up:
Broken Social Scene
the Walkmen
the Killers
the Von Bondies
Secret Machines
Bumblebeez
Sahara Hotnights
Danger Mouse
Datsuns

others:
Morrissey
Sonic Youth
Le Tigre
PJ Harvey
Modest Mouse
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
String Cheese Incident
Gomez
Flaming Lips
the Thrills
the Polyphonic Spree
the Coup
Sound Tribe Sector 9
Elbow
Wheat
Dresden Dolls
DJ Peretz

-starts in mid-july.
-two nights at each of the 20 shows
-when/where are the shows?
-is wolf eyes playing at every spot?
-who else is playing the second stage?
-$50 for both nights.
-WHERE IS THE WEBSITE?

i'm crying "Dud!" until i see a real schedule. this gypsy mentality is fine, but damn it, we all can't drop $50 and 2 days on a whim for a potential potluck of bands.

m.

msp, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Danger Mouse

As in DJ Dangermouse? OH HOW APT.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

sub-officially:

Adina Howard
Fugees
Gorillaz
Guns-n-Roses
Hawd Gankstuh Rappuhs Emsees Wid Ghatz
Hipsway
Orange Goblin
Sigur Ros
Toby Keith
Todd Rundgren

briania, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)


briania.... joke or not a joke? my sarcasm detector is on the fritz.

g-n-r? toby keith? where's the ghost of johnny cash?
m.

msp, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, feeble joke. Not that I wouldn't go to that show.

briania, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)


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