Commercial radio? TV Advertising? Pop Idol? Cheap CD's at ASDA?What has happened to the album charts?
― Redman, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Redman, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― omg, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Redman, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)
11 ( ) Ultimate Manilow Barry Manilow Arista 12 (6) Elephunk Black Eyed Peas A&M 13 (7) The Singles 1992-2003 No Doubt Interscope 14 (14) The Best Of Leann Rimes Curb/London 15 (8) Speakerboxxx/The Love Below Outkast Arista 16 (13) Final Straw Snow Patrol Fiction/Polydor 17 (12) The Soul Sessions Joss Stone Relentless/Virgin 18 (18) In The Zone Britney Spears Jive 19 (11) Permission To Land Darkness Must Destroy 20 (15) Come Away With Me Norah Jones Parlophone 21 (17) Life For Rent Dido Cheeky 22 (22) Blink 182 Blink 182 Geffen 23 (16) Franz Ferdinand Franz Ferdinand Domino Recordings 24 (9) Greatest Duran Duran Emi 25 (19) Dedicated Lemar Sony Music 26 ( ) Satisfaction Guaranteed - The Very Best Teddy Pendergrass Wsm 27 (25) The Look Of Love Dusty Springfield Umtv 28 (41) Body Language Kylie Minogue Parlophone 29 (23) Start Something Lostprophets Visible Noise 30 (28) O Damien Rice Drm/14th Floor 31 (26) Fallen Evanescence Epic/Wind-Up 32 (21) The Meaning Of Love Michelle S 33 (45) Afterglow Sarah Mclachlan Arista 34 (30) Three Sugababes Island 35 ( ) The Platinum Collection Barbara Dickson Sony Music Tv 36 (27) A Present For Everyone Busted Universal 37 (34) Scissor Sisters Scissor Sisters Polydor 38 (24) Free Me Emma 19 39 (29) Get Rich Or Die Tryin' 50 Cent Interscope 40 (35) Greatest Hits Red Hot Chili Peppers Warner Bros
What's gone wrong with this country?
― redman, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― zappi (joni), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― pete s, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)
1 FEELS LIKE HOMENORAH JONES( EMI ) 2 FALLENEVANESCENCE( EPIC ) 3 CLOSERJOSH GROBAN( WBR ) 4 ELEPHUNKBLACK EYED PEAS( INTERSCOPE ) 5 VERY BEST OF SHERYL CROWSHERYL CROW( A&M ) 6 2004 GRAMMY NOMINEESVARIOUS( BMGH ) 7 SPEAKERBOXX-LOVEOUTKAST( ARISTA ) 8 SOMETHING BEAUTIFULGREAT BIG SEA( WEA ) 9 JUNO AWARDS 2004VARIOUS( UNI ) 10 LONG ROADNICKELBACK( EMI )
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)
10 (6) Under The Pink - Tori Amos (East West) 9 (9) Sting - Ten Summoner's Tales (A&M) 8 (-) Saint Etienne - Tiger Bay (Heavenly) 7 (7) M People - Elegant Slumming (deConstruction) 6 (5) Meatloaf - Bat Out Of Hell 2: Back Into Hell (Virgin) 5 (2) Dina Carroll - So Close (A&M) 4 (-) The Cranberries - Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can't We? (Island) 3 (4) Bjork - Debut (One Little Indian) 2 (2) Enigma - The Cross Of Changes (Virgin) 1 (1) Mariah Carey - Music Box (Columbia)
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)
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― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)
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― pete s, Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)
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― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)
i must admit i have a ridiculous soft spot for "The Closest Thing To Crazy", but only because the Mike Batt connection reminds me of a time when these things weren't so controlled by a tiny clique ... there seemed to be more quirks, more individuality around. Jamie Cullum is a cultural nadir of humanity, and symbolises everything that is wrong with Britain in 2004. don't waste your time worrying about Engelbert Humperdinck compilations (such things have always charted from time to time); fight the real enemy within, and turn the screw on Cullum and the anti-culture which created him.
(edit, re. "Bunged Up"'s post ... oh god, i know, i know, i know ...)
― phoebe dinsmore's bastard nephew (robin carmody), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― phoebe dinsmore's bastard nephew (robin carmody), Sunday, 14 March 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)
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― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 15 March 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)
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― stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 March 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 March 2004 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)
interesting stat - where did you get it from?
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 March 2004 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)
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― pete s, Monday, 15 March 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)
as for Keane, they're merely another example of the ongoing tendency - in the 60s, the vast bulk of British pop music came from the south-east and the West Coast Main Line corridor, whereas now it's become so central to the culture, and the Americosceptic heartlands of wariness of its influence (both Old Tory and Old Labour) have been so systematically eroded, that you get people like Keane, who in the post-war years would have been Young Conservative bank clerks, choosing pop music as just another career (the idea of a band from Battle, Sussex getting to number three in 1966 would have been completely unthinkable, Troggs and Dave Dee notwithstanding). pop music is just *there* now, so they don't think what they're doing is in any way *significant* (compare to, say, Reg Presley's "this kind of feeling could move a nation"; *he knew*) - the sound of "Somewhere Only We Know" is the sound of a cultural form completely immersed in the fabric in a way unthinkable even ten years ago, saying nothing and being nothing.
the tedium of bands like that i would call "Wienerisation", after the man who did most to encourage ideological loathing of the conservative middle classes' wariness of pop culture and thus allow pop music to slip further and further into the background and have less and less *drama* and *impact* to it. Keane are merely a sociological aftereffect; they mean nothing in themselves, and they wouldn't pretend to, but their existence and doubtless massive future success says a lot. born in the Thatcher years, they can't remember a time when conservatism - even in Sussex market towns - wasn't merely another flavour of the Coca-Cola culture / McCulture (whatever you want to say), and therefore they see it as perfectly natural for the most conservative dullards to make a career out of pop music. what Lostprophets are to the miners' strike, they are to the sackings of Lord Carrington, Francis Pym et al. can you imagine the sort of people who like "Somewhere Only We Know" thinking much for themselves? i can't. at least Chris Martin is politically dead right in most of his beliefs. Keane are *nothing*.
― phoebe dinsmore's bastard nephew (robin carmody), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)
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Slowly, softly and apparently unstoppably, easy listening and jazz have come to dominate the UK album chart. In this week's Top 10, Katie Melua, Jamie Cullum and Norah Jones have charmed CD buyers while middle-of-the-road giants Daniel O'Donnell, Engelbert Humperdinck and Harry Connick Jr have lumbered back into view.
Of the few pop acts that remain in the Top 10, the mellow Zero 7 and newly-soulful Will Young sound distinctly adult. So how did every day come to sound like a dinner party?
"People like melody and quality in music, and there are a lot of good songs around right now," says Colin Martin, executive music producer for BBC Radio 2.
"During the 90s, the chart was dominated by high-energy tracks with little to appeal to a broad range of album buyers.
It's been like a bolt from the blue
Stephen GrahamJazzwise magazine "Now there is hardly anybody who will not enjoy the current albums by Katie Melua, Jamie Cullum or Lionel Richie."
Jazzwise magazine co-editor Stephen Graham traces the current jazz and middle-of-the-road (MOR) revival to pianist Diana Krall, whose album When I Look in Your Eyes was a global hit in 1999.
"Diana Krall tapped into the lucrative adult market and paved the way for Norah Jones," he says. "People liked the fact that Norah Jones was a young singer-songwriter and she had phenomenal success."
Norah Jones sold 19 million copies of her debut album Come Away With Me, including two million in the UK.
This is all about lengthy careers, rather than just making music for today
Colin MartinBBC Radio 2 "That success has continued with her new album, by which time she had in turn paved the way for Jamie Cullum's £1m record deal," Mr Graham says.
Industry magazine Music Week attributes the rise in easy listening to "Des and Mel, [Michael] Parkinson and beer adverts".
Exposure on TV and radio has dramatically boosted sales, but Radio 2's Colin Martin believes the new accessibility of albums is another vital factor.
"In the past, some people may not have wanted to go to record shops to search out these artists, but now they can just pop them in their basket at a supermarket," he says.
Jamie Cullum has won a place in both the album and singles charts Whatever the reason, people aged between 40 and 49 have been inspired to buy more albums - accounting for 19.1% of total album sales in 2002 compared with 16.5% in 2000, according to British Phonographic Industry figures.
The popularity of MOR and jazz has led to a sharp contrast between music formats, with the albums chart topped by artists who find it difficult to conquer the youth-dominated singles chart and vice versa.
The fact that Katie Melua and Jamie Cullum have already enjoyed top 20 hits may bridge that divide, however.
"Even a widely-respected jazz artist such as Courtney Pine never made it into the singles chart," says Stephen Graham. "It's been like a bolt from the blue."
Everything in music is cyclical - I can already detect a backlash
Stephen GrahamJazzwise magazine Will the appeal of mellow jazz and MOR artists continue to broaden? Colin Martin believes so.
"We continue to champion artists such as Amy Winehouse, Damien Rice and Sarah McLachlan because we believe strongly in artistic development," he says.
"They have the potential to keep getting better and better. This is all about lengthy careers, rather than just making music for today."
Stephen Graham is not so sure. "It's the flavour of the month right now, but everything in music is cyclical," he says. "I can already detect a backlash."
― Redman, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)
"People like melody and quality in music, and there are a lot of good songs around right now," says Colin Martin, executive music producer for BBC Radio 2. "During the 90s, the chart was dominated by high-energy tracks with little to appeal to a broad range of album buyers.
"Now there is hardly anybody who will not enjoy the current albums by Katie Melua, Jamie Cullum or Lionel Richie."
Yeah right...
― Redman, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― pete s, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Still haven't played it.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)
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― Redman, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)
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Westenra is currently touring the United States
Contemporary artists and compilations albums have boosted classical music sales, changing the face of the classical charts. BBC News Online looks at how the classical genre has evolved.
Scan the chart-topping classical albums of recent years and you are unlikely to spot many orchestral recordings of core classical works.
Instead, the chart is flooded with contemporary stars like Charlotte Church, Hayley Westenra and Bryn Terfel.
Sandwiched between them you will usually find several compilation albums inviting you to 'relax' or 'chill out' to a series of popular classical melodies.
Crossover music
"There has been a definite trend towards classical crossover music in the last few years," says Matt Phillips, a spokesman for the British Phonographic Industry.
But is it the quality of the music or the powerful thrust of modern marketing that accounts for the genre's burgeoning success since the 1990s?
Alex Cowan, product manager for Sony Classical, whose artists include Charlotte Church and Vanessa Mae, believes the fortunes of such artists is "generally well deserved".
But he admits that good PR has played an important role.
Like many recent media success stories, he claims it is the accessibility of the artist that sells.
Charlotte Church is experimenting with new musical styles
Lifestyle
"It's buying into a lifestyle, it's a desirable product," says Mr Cowan. "What we're always trying to do is reach these people that wouldn't buy a classical album otherwise."
Peter Jamieson, chairman of the British Phonographic Industry, agrees. "In 2003 the classical record industry bounced back with a whole range of exciting artists and innovative compilations which brought classical music to new audiences."
Indeed, between 2002 and 2003, turnover increased by £5m to £65m.
Nor has the sales success been limited to major labels promoting crossover artists. Independent label Chandos Records, whose latest releases include Yoshimatsu's cello concerto, has also enjoyed a growth in sales.
"A lot of people in the recording industry are crossover stars now and we're not in a financial position to do the kind of PR that goes with it, " said a spokeswoman for Chandos.
"It's like a chicken and egg situation - if you get the artist you have to spend the money and if you don't spend the money, you don't get the artist."
Core market
Nonetheless, Chandos feels it is not losing out to the major record companies because the crossover and core markets are separate.
"Crossover doesn't affect our sales. We're not in the same market - people know what we do and they buy it, if that's what they want," she says.
Opera star Terfel is nominated for two classical Brits
Roger Lewis, managing director and programme controller of radio station Classic FM, believes classical music is increasingly enjoyed by a broad spectrum of music-lovers.
"Classic FM has a very mixed audience from connoisseurs to people who have only recently discovered classical music - we are passionate about engaging our audience and inviting them to join us on a voyage of discovery," he says.
And while he is pleased the crossover trend is bringing classical music to a new audience, he is keen to point out that the traditional genre is vital.
New audience
"Compilation albums are an entry point for a new audience into classical music and have been instrumental in helping people engage in the genre," adds Mr Lewis.
"But record sales are only one of a number of barometers you can use to measure activity within classical music.
"I think the trend is returning to core artists - reflected by some of those nominated for the Classical Brits - BrynTerfel, Sir Simon Rattle, Cecilia Bartoli and Phillip Glass."
Perhaps his inclusion of Terfel - a Welsh bass-baritone, whose latest album went platinum - demonstrates that one person's classical performer is another's modern crossover artist.
Whatever your opinion, the future of classical music looks bright.
― Redman, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)
You wouldn't get away unchallenged with sneering at the buyers of the top ten singles, claiming that they are manipulated into buying what they don't like or saying of, say, Usher fans "These are the people, 63 per cent of people under the age of twenty are against the legalisation of cannabis. They are also in favour of the war and in favour of stricter controls against asylum seekers. We have to get over it."
It's some stupid bullshit belief that "the kids" buying the singles aren't the same as the oldies buying the albums. Well they are, the only difference is about 10 years.
― MikeB, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah right... "
hahaha!
― thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)
this will be where the grime crossover really takes hold, mark my words
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Redman, Thursday, 27 May 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)
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British conductor Sir Simon Rattle won orchestral album of the year for his recording of Beethoven's Symphonies with the Vienna Philharmonic.
The awards, in their fifth year, are billed as the orchestral and operatic answer to the pop and rock Brits.
Terfel won the best album award - the night's biggest prize - for Bryn, which has sold more than 300,000copies in the UK since it was released last year.
CLASSICAL BRITS BIG WINNERS Best album - Bryn Terfel, Bryn Male artist - Bryn Terfel Female artist - Cecilia Bartoli (above) Contemporary music award - Philip Glass, The Hours Ensemble/orchestral album - Sir Simon Rattle/Vienna Philharmonic, Beethoven Symphonies Outstanding contribution - Renee Fleming Mezzo soprano Bartoli beat New Zealand-born teenager Hayley Westenra to win her award, while Terfel triumphed over violinist Nigel Kennedy in the male category.
Another violinist, 29-year-old Daniel Hope, was named best young British classical performer.
The contemporary music award went to US composer Philip Glass for his soundtrack to the film The Hours.
Russia's Maxim Vengerov won the critics' award for his recording of Benjamin Britten's Violin Concerto and William Walton's Viola Concerto, conducted by his friend and mentor Mstislav Rostropovich.
Guests at the ceremony - hosted by ITV news presenter Katie Derham for the fourth year running - included former boy soprano Aled Jones, actor Nigel Havers and musical star Elaine Paige.
The event, which will be broadcast on ITV1 on Sunday, featured performances from Westenra, Kennedy, fellow violinist Vanessa-Mae and Welsh soprano Katherine Jenkins.
'Opera band'
American soprano Renne Fleming, the recipient of this year's outstanding contribution to music award, joined Terfel for a duet of Bess, You is My Woman Now from the musical Porgy and Bess.
There were also performances from Amici Forever, the world's first "opera band", and the King's College Choir Cambridge.
Five awards were decided by the Classical Brit awards' voting academy, a body made up of media professionals, members of the Musicians' Union, promoters, industry executives and orchestra leaders.
The album of the year award was decided by Classic FM listeners.
― Redman, Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)
the moral of the story: the Michael Gove generation are merely the Auberon Waugh generation repackaged, just a hell of a lot *nastier*, on most things.
― robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Redman, Thursday, 27 May 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)
The way the people running the music industry talk tells you a lot about the mediocrity of their mental processes. What's more, they're attempting to run towards this mediocrity, not away from it. Because mediocrity is the median, the median is the average, the average is the golden mean, and gold means gold. Shake the mediocrity tree and the gold comes showering down!
Meanwhile, in a parallel world, here's a pop song. Norah Jones, who sings Nick Drake covers, will perhaps warble it with reverent sesh-mush gloss when I am no more.
― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 27 May 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Redman, Friday, 28 May 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio2_aod.shtml?docu3#
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 28 May 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)
1 NEWNew Entry Katie MeluaPiece By Piece
2 David GrayLife In Slow Motion
3 James BluntBack To Bedlam
4 New Entry Jamie CullumCatching Tales
5 KT TunstallEye To The Telescope
6 Bon JoviHave A Nice Day
7 Barbra StreisandGuilty Too
8 Kanye WestLate Registration
9 Kelly ClarksonBreakaway
(10 NEWNew Entry (-) Hayley WestenraOdyssey
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 8 October 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 9 October 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
― jellybean (jellybean), Sunday, 9 October 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
(I get the feeling that musicians featuring on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross (the Parky it's OK to like) doesn't have the same effect, since Parky has them on in the middle so you still hear them when you go to make your cup of tea, but with Wossy the bands are on at the end so you can just turn off safe in the knowledge you aren't going to miss any of the scintillating chat)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 October 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 9 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
YOU ARE ALL JEALOUS AND RACIST.
― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Sunday, 9 October 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)
Robbi Williams, Craig David, James Blunt..
― jellybean (jellybean), Sunday, 9 October 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)
I think it has to do with the following factors
- Downloading. Young people buy less music now than they used to do, plus if they buy, they will more often buy single tracks rather than albums- Increasing use of TV ads attracting new audiences that had more or less stopped buying albums by the 70s.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 October 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 9 October 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)
― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Sunday, 9 October 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 October 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 10 October 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)
― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 10 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)
Face it kids, the baby boomers have won. (And just because there's so bloody many of them.)
Before everyone here over the age of 45 jumps on me, I must point out I'm thinking of people like my mum (aged 56)and my dad (61) and my stepmother (51)who do buy Parky-albums in Sainsburys. They do make up a bigger bulk of the demographics than those who still read the Wire.
― Anna (Anna), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)
My parents are probably the typical buyer.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 10 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)
Wrong again. This has nothing to do with the ethnicity of the performers.
Those who like melodic music (that is, music that puts the empasis on melody and harmony over rhythm and production) tend to buy records by white performers, simply because, for some weird and unexplainable reason, white people are more likely to make melodic music.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 10 October 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 10 October 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)
Downloading has led to a larger percentage of the album buying population being 1)older than 30 years old and 2)females. Naturally, this is reflected in what genres dominate the album charts. For instance, Katie Melua, Norah Jones and Jamie Cullum are all the sort of acts that are more likely to appeal to 40 year old females than to 16, or even 12, year old males.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 10 October 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
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― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)
― retroboy, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)
Geir is right - fuck the album chart, I don't give a monkeys, let it rot.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
Teardrops era? Fried? Jehovahkill???!!?
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
isn't the american chart based on radio play, though?
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)
"Trampoline" at 78 rpm?
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)
The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) trade body said sales were up 1.4 per cent between July and September 2005.
It said the rise came despite "grim reports" about low consumer confidence and the London bombings hitting sales.
The BPI attributes the rise to the success of acts like singer James Blunt, who sold a million albums in the period, Coldplay and Kaiser Chiefs.
Seven UK acts were in the top 10 artist albums chart.
Blunt's debut Back To Bedlam was the top-selling album in the period.
His single You're Beautiful topped the quarter's singles chart and has also become the best-selling download of all time.
X&Y by Coldplay was the second highest selling, followed by Kaiser Chiefs' Employment, Forever Faithless - The Greatest Hits by dance act Faithless and Demon Days, the second album by Damon Albarn's cartoon band Gorillaz.
BPI chairman Peter Jamieson said: "Our members invest millions of pounds each year in new UK artists, and time and again music fans choose to buy British.
"It's been a tough summer on the high street, but these figures demonstrate the enduring appeal of great British music."
It was not all good news as compilation album sales fell by nearly 20 per cent on last year
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)
Ross fulfilling the BBC public service commitment by not forcing us to listen to Ms Dynamite or next big things Louis XIV.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
How does anyone say anything like this with a straight face?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
I was talking about the U.S. album chart
― AMD (AMD), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
They are forced to watch 24 hours of Jim Davidson & Jimmy Carr as training.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)
(Sade is not particularly melodic btw, her music is repetitive in a very "jazzy" way)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
The American demographic is of course more likely than the European one to buy archetypical American music, even into their 30s and 40s. Hip-hop, R&B, hard rock and country are all archetypical American music genres, and it is more natural for Americans to like them than it is for Europeans.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)
I'd rather fuck the single charts. Not a lot of value there at the time (although somewhat more of value in the UK singles chart than in the US one it must be added)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 October 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)
Many middle-aged parents are now buying more CDs than their teenage children, according to figures from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).
Neil Sedaka is benefitting from a more mature audienceIn 1963, Neil Sedaka was a teen pop sensation who thought his career was over.
Forty-three years later, he's playing at the Royal Albert Hall and has just had another UK top 20 album.
And he is not alone. Over the last few weeks, Andrea Bocelli, Russell Watson, Il Divo, The Carpenters, Barry Manilow, David Essex and Johnny Mathis have all had hit albums.
The top 100 is strewn with records that can only be described as easy listening.
And it is all a reflection of a significant change in the music industry - the power of "mum rock".
Forty-somethings now buy more than twice as many pop CDs as teenagers and the gap is growing every year.
So what is happening?
Downloading is one factor explaining why teenagers are buying fewer CDs, especially when it comes to compilation albums.
Barry Manilow first appeared in the charts more than 30 years agoBut there is another trend - older people are buying more music and going to more concerts.
The average teenage record buyer now spends 25% less on CDs than they did five years ago, whereas the average 60-something CD purchaser is spending 30% more.
For the last five years, sales to under-30s have been going down - from 43% to 34%.
Older consumers (over 40s), especially women, have been increasing their share of the market - from 33.5% to 45%.
And the biggest growth is among older women. Women over 50 now buy almost twice as many albums as teenage girls and the charts are now reflecting their tastes.
Lifelong fans
So what accounts for the change? One reason is that today's 50- and 60-somethings have grown up with a culture of music buying. Buying records is often a habit that begins in youth and carries on through life.
But there is also a big change in the way CDs are sold.
Supermarkets now make up a large part of the retail market. Sales have gone from around 12 million in 2000 to around 40 million a year today.
Prices have also fallen, making a CD an impulse purchase that can be popped in with the groceries rather than an expensive treat that could only be acquired by visiting often dark and noisy music stores.
But on a more general point, it means the generation gap that used to be reflected by music is fast disappearing and it is the 40- and 50-somethings who are now pop's biggest fans.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)
I suppose it was only a matter of time until mum rock came along to replace dad rock.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)
The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) report found 59% of over-50s had bought an album in the previous three months and 29% bought at least six CDs a year.
Favourite artists include Il Divo, Rod Stewart, Tony Christie, Katherine Jenkins, G4 and Ronan Keating.
The BPI said older music fans were driving a growth in sales.
"Nearly a quarter of all albums are bought by older music fans, and that percentage is set to grow as the UK population ages," spokesman Matt Phillips added.
Only 4% of over-50s own a digital music player but 23% intend to buy one in the future, the study found.
Classical popularity
The study also found 59% of over-50s said music was an "important part of their lives", with classical music the most popular genre.
Easy listening and country music were also popular, with 64% of respondents saying they liked rock music.
Some 45% of those surveyed said they listened to BBC Radio 2, with local stations attracting 53% of respondents.
One in five said they listened to Radio 1 each day, more than the 15% who listen to Radio 3 daily, but less than the 34% who tuned into Classic FM.
The survey was carried out by an Age Concern research panel, which surveys a sample of up to 10,000 over-50s on lifestyle issues.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)
Maybe theres a museum somewhere accusing 18th century music critics of rockism.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)
― dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)