The Fiery Furnaces "Blueberry Boat"

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I think a lot of you are going to be blown away by Blueberry Boat. The album won't be out til around June, but you can get a little taste of the title track on Fluxblog for a little while.

The album feels a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get used to the rambling structures of the songs, it is just as tuneful and ingratiating as Gallowsbird's Bark. It's a bit prog/musical theatre/rock opera-ish, the keyboards dominate the arrangements, and Matt sings almost as much as Eleanor. If someone makes an album that I'll love more than Blueberry Boat this year, I'll be amazed.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

On first listen: well, isn't this peculiar. Not sure if epic plays to (what I feel are) the Fiery Furnace's strengths. Will keep it on repeat and report back. Thanks for posting this!

Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Not all of the songs are epic - there's a few shorter, more traditionally verse-chorus-verse kind of songs, not that far removed from the previous album. Nothing on the record rocks in the way that "Crystal Clear" or "Asthma Attack" did - no one can say "oh they are like the White Stripes" in their right mind with this record. It's a pretty unique album, they are in a league of their own now.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Blimey. I think the FF bus may have just driven by my stop.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha omg this reminds me of that first TMBG record with all the C&W samples and Zappa damage. After some consideration, I do mean this as a compliment.

I always get really excited when a band releases a new album within a year of their last one. It shows they're thinking on their feet.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm also hearing some Wyatt/Ayers going on here... interesting stuff. Then it turns into the Art of Noise at the end.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I am so looking forward to seeing them on Friday.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Finally, something that suggests there's something to look forward to - this is very brilliant indeed.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoa, O Nate - I'll be at the show on Friday night too. I'd love to meet you!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I am fidgety with anticipation and extremely irritated they aren't playiang Coachella

Thea (Thea), Monday, 22 March 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm...this particular track seems to have all of the things I found a little dodgy about Gallowsbird, and not enough of the things I loved. Interestng, though.

spittle (spittle), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm concerned that her lack of vocal range is going to doom them... It's an appealing voice but I wish it had a bit more to offer from song to song.

no opinion, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know, I think their voices are absolutely perfect for the music that they do. There's 12 other songs, and I think you're going to be very surprised by some of them - there's some things that you may not see coming. I'm really looking forward to knowing what people are going to make of the *really* strange stuff, like "Quay Cur" and "Inspector Blancheflower."

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

But then, I'm also interested in the reaction to something like "Chris Michaels," which is kinda anthemic and the song where their love of the Who is most obvious.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

We should definitely try to meet up at the show. I don't know anything about the opening bands, so I'm not sure how early I should try to get there.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I totally thought the album was called "Burberry Boat"

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck, this song is grrreeeaaat! Can't wait for the release.

ffff, Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey NYC people! I posted this on my blog, but I haven't heard from anyone yet, so I'll extend it to the broader ILM audience.

The first person to email me who wants to see the Fiery Furnaces show tomorrow night at North Six and a) lives in the NYC area and b) can get to the venue by 9 PM will get ONE free ticket. Please email fluxequalsrad @ hotmail.com

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

again i wish i was in new york!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, I have a winner.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, hey Jody - my email to you keeps bouncing back, and I don't have an alternate address. You're the winner. Could you please email me from another address?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

hrm, weird... ok, hang on.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

congratulations jody!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

speech!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

they are playing, here, again, next month, I think.

if you see her, tell the girl that I'm still in love w/ her, please, jody.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll be there to see the Prosaics.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

What are the Prosaics like?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

if you see her, tell the girl that I'm still in love w/ her, please, jody.

will do.

speech!

thanks matthew! u r teh roxor.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Just because I consider this the most extreme kind of art-wank I've heard all year doesn't mean I don't kind of love it a lot. Great textures. Shame it reminds me so much of Primus without the bass solos, though.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

What are the Prosaics like?

Good. Post-punk three-piece... great live show. Good dressers.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

there is a picture of the girl and the boy in our uni paper this week and they're playing ATP weekend 2. I'm quite excited.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

if you see her, cozen, etc.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey folks, I've also got a last-minute free pass for tonight's show. If you want it and you can be there at 9, e-mail me.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 March 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope for the sake of those attending the show that Northsix doesn't smell as bad as it did last weekend. Also, watch out for the lonesome cowboy Van-Helsig-doppelganger doorman, if he's working tonight.

hstencil, Friday, 26 March 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll be sure to tell him Hstencil says 'hi'.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 March 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

dude he might stare at you intensely, or snarl, so watch out!

hstencil, Friday, 26 March 2004 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

(bump)

The ticket is still available.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 March 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

http://southsidecallbox.com/images/fiery_furnaces_03_26_04.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 27 March 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

So was it rock?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 March 2004 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

it was! full report to come.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 27 March 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

They ROCKED!!!

My thoughts are here.

Also, it was very nice seeing Jody and Matthew at the show. ILXors hail!

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 27 March 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

full report (also on my blog):

Gallowsbird's Bark was my third favorite record of last year and the Fiery Furnaces themselves intrigue me more than just about any other band out there right now. If only spiritually, Eleanor and Matt Friedberger are the Becker and Fagen of their day. "Literate," yeah, perfectionist, fine, but they also crackle with a cryptic synchronicity that excludes the rest of the world from ever really knowing their thought processes or motivations.

You wanna crack them open because what's inside has gotta be pretty interesting, this brother and sister whose shy bedroom geekiness often careens into controlled crank-mania and near-autistic strings of information, strings of words, strings of notes, free associations. But it's not cold and distant, it's warm and funny and a little vulnerable too, guardedly emotional.

Seeing them live drives all this home. There's a keyboardist/bass player and a drummer too, and they're doing very well holding down the insanely difficult parts they've had to learn for the stage show (95 percent of the live arrangements are different from what's on record), and it reminds me of the Magic Band guys being forced under great duress to learn whatever crazy shit Beefheart threw at them, or the orchestra backing Laura Nyro on the Eli/Tendaberry dates, working overtime overdubbing parts that would match Nyro's rhythmically erratic voice-and-piano takes. Except it's not one spastic genius -- it's two, two siblings with a bizarre telepathy that I can detect when I watch them nail all their cues, their entrances, endings, changes, without even looking at each other more than a couple of times in the whole set. As good as the other musicians were last night (compared to reports of shows where they seemed lost and out of their depth), it was all about keeping up with the Friedbergers.

The set was a trial run for a lot of new songs (from their forthcoming Blueberry Boat, the "alienating second album" where they add some Soft Machine to their Suicide, throw some languid space-prog on that scatty E Street jingle-jangle, and float their Hot Wheels canoe farther east on the world atlas). Seeing how little equipment there actually is on stage (basically the bare bones of what any touring band carries around, give or take a Rhodes piano), it makes sense that the Fiery Furnaces' live arrangements are so different; they go at the material all minimal and full-throttle and it's baffling and hard to follow sometimes (let's say Eleanor is singing with her only backup being Matt barfing out relentless repetitive wah-drunk patterns on his Telecaster; as an art-punk experiment it's fun but there were some words on Gallowsbird's Bark that really benefitted from having a chord supporting them, giving them the necessary phrasing, gravity, etc, and this is one of the most cool things songwriting does and when it's not there I kinda miss it).

But the new songs came off wonderfully. I love their voices, and I love their voices on these songs. They enunciate so you can hear what they're singing, but they don't get too cutesy about it, like "here's the part where you're supposed to find all this terribly poignant/riotously funny," the way some jazz singers do. The lyrics could ostensibly speak for themselves, but there's so much scrappy port-city character in Eleanor and Matt's singing that it's delightful to hear those voices and those words in tandem. And the pacing of the show didn't restrict this at all. In a way, it tested it. It's there, all right.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

you're really making me jealous i wasn't there! that was wonderfully well-written jody.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice review. I especially like the Magic Band reference.

o. nate (onate), Sunday, 28 March 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I had so much fun at that show! I was familiar with all of it, so it felt like one big nonstop singalong medley to me.

For those interested in decoding the setlist Jody posted, here's the song order with full titles and the songs which were left out:

main set: I Lost My Dog / Broke Mind* --> Spaniolated --> Single* / South Is Only A Home --> Quay Cur (only the first section) --> Bow Wow --> Inspector Blancheflower (only middle section) --> Don't Dance Her Down / Inca Rag/Name Game / Up In The North / Worry Worry / I'm Gonna Run --> Leaky Tunnel --> Blueberry Boat (only middle and final sections) --> Asthma Attack / Crystal Clear / Tropical Ice-Land
encore: Two Fat Feet (Matt & Eleanor only) / Bright Blue Tie (Matt & Eleanor only) / Chris Michaels / Rub Alcohol Blues (Matt & Eleanor only) (* = non-Blueberry Boat new song, probably on album #3)

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 28 March 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Just to be the voice of uh dissent, I thought they were kind of boring. But they'll make millions for being "the next White Stripes, only with a girl singer."

Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 28 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha, you say that, but you haven't heard the Blueberry Boat album. No sane person is going to confuse the music on that record with the White Stripes or any other band of that kind.

And wait, aren't you the guy who loved the Prosaics? Those guys were the dullest, most imagination-free band that I've seen in a long time. If guitars had presets like keyboards and drums machines, they'd have the whole show on "moderate post-punk." The singer was godawful, it was all too emo and drab, just an alarming lack of creativity. It was quite a contrast with the FF, for sure. The Prosaics should just change their name to Emopol and be done with it.

I can't argue about them wearing nice clothes, but whatever. I saw the drummer in his nice suit hop on his Vespa and drive off after the show.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 28 March 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha!

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 28 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

did they wear nice clothes?

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 28 March 2004 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The drummer of the Prosaics wore a nice (vintage, I think) suit and looked very sharp (but kinda trust-fundy). I can't recall what the other two guys had on, but one of them had some kind of bizarre holster-ish belt thing that I couldn't quite figure out.

The Fiery Furnaces looked nice, but nondescript. Matt cut his hair since the last time I saw them in November.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 28 March 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

It occurs to me now that perhaps the reason why they played so many songs as quickly as they could was in preparation for their tour with Franz Ferdinand - I think that they are generally into medleys no matter what, but the exaggerated "here's everything, we're not going to pause even for a moment" thing could be their strategy for getting across as much of their catalog as they can in an opening act set time.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 28 March 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard a rumour to break my heart.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 29 March 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

he was at the gig.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 29 March 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

What's he like?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 29 March 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

what?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 29 March 2004 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, then my heart's broken too.

Kate Jane Connolly (fixitgirl), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Was I reading between the lines incorrectly?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I've no clue what I'm talking about.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I'm talking about Alex from Franz Ferdinand dating Eleanor from the Fiery Furnaces, I don't know about anyone else..

Kate Jane Connolly (fixitgirl), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

she dated britt daniel of spoon for years. you can actually tell he influenced her a lot.

trxbutt, Monday, 29 March 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The new altrock Justine and Damon!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

erm, alex is married? I don't actually know anything about these people.

I heard another rumour to break my heart.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

You're making me nervous.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

serves you right.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, she's certainly not dating me.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

seems she goes for average looking blonde guys with big noses who are also top indie bachelors.

trxbutt, Monday, 29 March 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no chance.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 29 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't Steve Malkmus single again?

o. nate (onate), Monday, 29 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think he would fancy RJG.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 29 March 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I think of Eleanor as being the perfect female equivalent of Malkmus in a lot of ways. If they dated, it'd be a little too perfect.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 29 March 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe he would absorb some of the FF's discipline as bandleaders, and she would absorb some of his oblique irony.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 29 March 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Where are you people who are hearing the album getting it from? I see nothing on slsk. Info plz.

zee zay, Monday, 29 March 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

wow. a little harsh, don't you think? do you do anything remotely close to putting yr own work in the publics eye that would warrant such an attitude. besides - i was at that show, and i can't see people who like ff digging prosaics. ease up, dude.

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Ha ha, you say that, but you haven't heard the Blueberry Boat album. No sane person is going to confuse the music on that record with the White Stripes or any other band of that kind.

And wait, aren't you the guy who loved the Prosaics? Those guys were the dullest, most imagination-free band that I've seen in a long time. If guitars had presets like keyboards and drums machines, they'd have the whole show on "moderate post-punk." The singer was godawful, it was all too emo and drab, just an alarming lack of creativity. It was quite a contrast with the FF, for sure. The Prosaics should just change their name to Emopol and be done with it.

I can't argue about them wearing nice clothes, but whatever. I saw the drummer in his nice suit hop on his Vespa and drive off after the show.

-- Matthew Perpetua (fluxequalsra...), March 28th, 2004.

hrwatson, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

seems she goes for average looking blonde guys with big noses who are also top indie bachelors.

I should write some songs.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

and get a big nose.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, I've just realised, and dye my hair.

'I still think of myself as blond,' sounds like a morrissey lyric.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, 'blonde'.

BLAND BLONDS IN BANDS

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU ARE DEAD, YOU KNOW.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

what is the rumour, RJG?

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

which one?

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the one that is breaking your heart.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, which?

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

dying of you not dying.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)

all of them, then.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)

if I repeat them, they might stop being rumours.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

do you do anything remotely close to putting yr own work in the publics eye that would warrant such an attitude.

Yes!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I must agree with hrwatson regarding the harshness of that post. there's an underlying meanness to it that surprised me. why be so defensive? who cares if not everyone luuuuuuuves the fiery furnaces. oh, wait, you're better then they are because you like the fiery furnaces. and of course innately better than anyone driving a vespa. all so silly.

trxbutt, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I just really really disliked The Prosaics. I don't care if the guy doesn't like the Fiery Furnaces. I just needed to vent about the Prosaics.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

matthew's not allowed to say he dislikes a band? wtf is the point of posting here if you can't express your actual opinion of something? this isn't an all-praise board you know!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the implication was that I was dissing Aaron W for liking the Prosaics and not the Furnaces, and I suppose there is some validity to that interpretation, but I really don't have anything against Aaron. I certainly could have worded things a bit better - I write everything I post to ILM way too quickly, and I'm always stuck with lots of grammar errors and/or seeming brusque and abrasive unintentionally.

And seriously, if you've heard the full Blueberry Boat album, the White Stripes/nyc rock scene comparisons become very ridiculous. I'm not trying to be snotty about this, it's just a fact about what the album sounds like.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh thanks for the defense kind ILXORs.

I didn't like FFs. Mr Matt doesn't like Prosaics. So I guess we're even, right?

I will say, that you're complaining that the comparisons to a sound/scene is ridiculous then did the same exact thing with the Prosaics. Anyway, I know on record they don't sound like the White Stripes or NY rock - they sound like Young Marble Giants.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

that's not the point. there's a difference between valid criticism and plain old bashing. artists and musicians can grow through valid critique...but slander is something else. it's very easy for people on webboards to "vent" without giving thought - i'm just saying, think before you post.

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matthew's not allowed to say he dislikes a band? wtf is the point of posting here if you can't express your actual opinion of something? this isn't an all-praise board you know!

-- s1ocki (parrisactava...), March 30th, 2004.

hr watson, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Saying that The Prosaics sound like a crappy, uncreative emo band with a lousy singer doing tired generic 'post punk' guitar rock is a perfectly valid criticism, as well as a very accurate description of what they sounded like. Where is the slander? Is being labelled "emo" slanderous now? Or, more bafflingly, are you objecting to them being considered snappy dressers, or that I mentioned the guy had a Vespa?

A Vespa is not a crime!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

slander?! you gotta be kidding me...

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Since message boards is a form of written communication, surely we should instead be saying "libel" instead!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"are a form"

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i think when the term "crap" and or "crappy" is used, that automatically takes your comments way from the "valid criticism" into the "overly slanderous" area. had you just said "uncreative" and or "medicore", that would have been different. you obviously have some deep rooted beef with prosaics. could it be that yr just bothered by the fact that they're three young, good looking guys playing a kind of music that's popular now? and in their defense, those guys were doing that stuff way before it was in vogue, and one of them used to dj post punk stuff way back when with dan selzer when no one gave a poo about that kind of music anyways. i think that's what they geniunely like.

and, no, emo is not a negative term, but you obviously meant it to be so, and obviously find bands who lean in that direction to be of lesser value.


there's nothing wrong with subjectivity. that's what makes the world go 'round. but if you want people to take yr subjective opinion a bit more seriously, try to be a little less nasty.

in yr defense, ff sound nothing like the white stripes, and in defense of prosaics, they sound nothing like interpol. i think both are really easy and lazy comments to make.


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Saying that The Prosaics sound like a crappy, uncreative emo band with a lousy singer doing tired generic 'post punk' guitar rock is a perfectly valid criticism, as well as a very accurate description of what they sounded like. Where is the slander? Is being labelled "emo" slanderous now? Or, more bafflingly, are you objecting to them being considered snappy dressers, or that I mentioned the guy had a Vespa?

hr watson, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

weird thread. the weirdest thing, that kinda jumped out at me, was how (and maybe I've just been too obsessed with the news lately, and also nothing personal against anybody - this is just an observation) how fox news perpetua's backtrack was against his own previous admission that maybe his post could be taken a little personally. clearly he was implying emo was a bad thing, especially when combined with a vespa, but in his final post he makes it sound like, if anything, what he said could even be complimentary, and plays with the term "emo" the same way a right wing pundit might play with the word "liberal" - which has become a demonizing term. Interesting.

not that any of this is a big deal. obviously people get as worked up talking about music as they do about politics.

katnyc, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, I read MP's tirade as a personal attack, via some band the guy liked and MP didn't.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

It's nothing personal. The Prosaics were just really, really bad. I don't really care if they've been doing an uninspired knock-off of generic post-punk before it was marketable - that really doesn't change my opinion that they were dull and drab. My feeling is that they were the postpunk equivalent of those anonymous grunge-by-numbers that you hear on Clearchannel rock radio.

It's very strange that this would be an issue on an internet message board about music - you guys do realize that bands get dissed on ILM every day of the week, right?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

not to mention on FOX NEWS!!!!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I just want to push this back into FF territory by saying that "Inspector Blancheflower" has got to be one of the bestest songs ever written.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever you say, bill o'reilly!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"Mason City" is my fave right now. Puts a nice spin on Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you think of the other songs? I'm definitely interested in hearing your take on the album.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The record could be about 20% shorter (I'm not so into "Straight Street" or "I Lost My Dog") and there are times when they lapse into Malkmus syndrome -- there's such a generosity of good writing overall that in a couple of spots they seem all written out, squeezed dry. But I'm very impressed with this album; it satisfies my need for contemporary keyboardy art-prog songs with some substance and (forgive me) "intelligence" behind them but a wonderfully hokey Waiting For Guffman community-theater sensibility too. Compositionwise, it's like Van Dyke Parks hijacking Jim Steinman's brane!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

but a wonderfully hokey

but there's a wonderfully etc

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

If I was going to drop anything, I'd lose "1917" and "Spaniolated." I prefer the peppy pop version of "Spaniolated" so much more than the more sedate album take.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 3 April 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"1917" is one of my favorites -- the first part of the suite, anyway, with Matt's free-floating word-jumble over the, what is that, a moog? a backwards record? (and the weird guitar stabs.)

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 April 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it precisely because it's such a sleeper track; I didn't realize how good it was until my third listen or so. Now I think it's quietly intriguing.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 April 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Listening to "Spaniolated" again, yeah, that's definitely among the 20 percent that I'd leave off, and the "Malkmus syndrome" applies here -- the lyrics are atypically feeble and under-written and don't really have any legs to stand on. They're even rhythmically clunky.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 3 April 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It's amazing how much better "Spaniolated" sounded live - the relative clunkiness of the lyrics and melody almost disappear when it's faster and boppier, and the song drastically improves. The song just needs a bit of sugar and some skip in its step.

I'm fine with it on the record, but it seems incomplete and it gets lost among the album's big epics. It's easy to forget that "Spaniolated" and "1917" are even on the record - all the other shorter songs fit together ("Paw Paw Tree" --> "I Lost My Dog", "Bird Brain" ---> "Catamaran Man" ---> "Wolf Notes"), so it's easier to understand how they fit into the record as a whole.

For me, the sleeper song is "Catamaran Man" - I didn't realize how much I loved that song til about a week ago when I woke up with the song stuck in my head. There's something so romantic about that one.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 3 April 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

the dub part on that breaks my heart

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 4 April 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

only dub can break your heart!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 4 April 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you eddie murphy

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 4 April 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"eddie murphy's fame went to joe piscopo's head" --some guy in that saturday night live book

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 4 April 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I personally like "Spaniolated", but I haven't heard the live version. I, too, love "Inspector Blancheflower" and look forward to playing it to all of my dorky friends. There's the Olivia-Newton John beat going and then good ol' Matthew doing an off-broadway scene by himself. And then it switches back to Eleanor, who alternates between Narrator and Main character if you're listening for plot (which I just may be). The guitar 'solos' through the album sound like they've been played by a captured gorilla that's been given an electric guitar (or "portable" guitar) for the ride to the zoo, and that's the best way to do it. There are few snore moments on the album, and they're really just interludes to the next important thing.

tyler (tyler), Sunday, 4 April 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

For me the best part of "Inspector Blancheflower" is that quasi-disco bit in the third section, with Matt doing that narrative about the brothers fighting over the girl. The melody is so lovely, and the lyrics are so simple and keen. I get it stuck in my head all of the time - "mom's oxycontin is in the Amstel Lite / but I noticed I was doing most of the talking that night / so I took both remotes and turned off the dvd / and said 'Michael is there something that you need to say to me?" The best moment of the entire album could very well be when he sings "you know damn well she ain't your Jenny no more" later in the next verse. It's just perfect!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 4 April 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

When is the damn thing coming out? I can't find any information on release dates.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Sunday, 4 April 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's out in June, but I'm not sure.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 4 April 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

the girl was at the art school, for michael dracula, last night. w/ some guys whatever, from franz ferdinand. she kept looking at me. I left early.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

so um is/are this/they sorta like basement jaxx except for the 60s/70s instead of the 80s/90s?

etc, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, that's a very interesting way of looking at it. Yes, they kinda are the modern 70s art rock equivalent of Basement Jaxx, sorta.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

nah.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Opening for Shins in LA in June, I think. Definitely San Diego

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

y'know, they're OK.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Y'know, it's a bit of a cop-out to claim a band is lame or just ok (or great, for that matter) but not say why. Why bother?

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

y'know.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, I was at the art school seeing Michael Dracula, that night! I didn't see her though.

Kate Jane Connolly (fixitgirl), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

they're fucking great. My favorite 'new' band in a long, long while.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

They certainly blow every other "new" band out of the water, then gleefully jump up and down on their bodies (albeit in a cute and loveable fairytale fashion) for me.

And they just can't stop! Four albums by Christmas! Go on! Please?

John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

where are you from, kate jane?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Manchester, I was on my holidays in Glasgow last week.

Kate Jane Connolly (fixitgirl), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

oh.

I saw the girl, the day after, in oxfam music, on byres road, w/ the guy from franz whatever. I turned around and I was smiling (who knows?) and she looked right at me and I think she thought I was smiling at her. I almost wanted to say "it's okay, I was smiling, anyway" but it would have made it weirder.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Inevitably. So, it's true then, about the new Damon & Justine? How heartbreaking. I'm so devastated, I could almost form an insult band, oh, hang on...

Kate Jane Connolly (fixitgirl), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not sure I like either, any longer. ff+ff=to.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not even sure I like life anymore, to be honest. Bloody hell.

Did you like Michael Dracula, by the way? I thought they were crap but Richard Golden-Ass were great..

Kate Jane Connolly (fixitgirl), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

we left after a song and a half, from MD. RGA began well but got a little bit boring.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

On my iTunes, grouped by time length of song:
"Blueberry Boat" by the Fiery Furnaces ....... (9:09)
"Rock Me" by the Box Tops ............................ (9:10)

I just heard the neatest accidental segueway between two songs. "Boat" just kinda shoots off into the atmosphere near the end, landing right into the blues beat of Alex Chilton and his brethren.

I'm going to get off the computer now. Thanks, matt.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 19 April 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
I think this is the best album to come out this year. I love every track. Span and 1917 are great, man! My least favorite is probably track 2.

i was 18 years old, Sunday, 16 May 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't decide if i like this or if it annoys the living shit out of me

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 23 May 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, me too. I've gone for annoying the living shit at the moment.

Are you talking about the single or the album, Jess?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 23 May 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

the album rules. It rules hard.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 23 May 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the album. i snagged the promo at work today.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 23 May 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's great, although i still haven't listened to it nearly enough (probably like 5 times in two months, whereas i've listened to the first album dozens of times in that time). listening to it feels like a bit of an undertaking, although i suspect this feeling will go away if i listen to it more.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 24 May 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a huge fan of the Furnaces coming in, and I needed a few listens to figure out the record, so I do recommend that you give the record a little time before passing judgement on it. It's strange how pop the album sounds once you get to know the structure of the songs.

Strongo, do you happen to know the street date for the record?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 24 May 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

7.13.04, according to the promo.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 May 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm pretty sure it annoys the living shit out me now, but i'm gonna perservere for a couple more listens to see if it opens up to me.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 May 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

parts of it annoy the living shit out of me too, but i'm giving these guys a little more leeway to be annoying because they pull the rest of it off so smartly. that said, i wish they wouldn't try so hard to be weird; they're already ten paces to the left of everyone else and their "normal" is pretty sui generis, but their "weird" is kinda the same conception of weird that lots of other musicians have, and that's where they open themselves up to some maybe-not-quite-so-flattering comparisons.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 May 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"7.13.04, according to the promo."

I hope you're right - Amazon.co.uk have it listed as 6th September!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 24 May 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I just listened to this for the first time today, and there are definitely parts that annoy the shit out of me, but that makes the especally spot on parts even better. I may not feel that way after hearing those annoying parts a few more times, but for now, it works.

Anyone else think that the opening of track 3 (don't have the tracklisting here with me) sounds like an MF Doom beat?

Scott CE (Scott CE), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a latecomer to Gallowsbird, but it has absolutely been my most played album this year, unspeakably wonderful stuff. Although by the sound of this thread I am the only person here who hasn't already heard at least part of 'Blueberry Boat' I thought it was high time we all started getting excited about the third and fourth LPs, as outlined here:

http://news.hawaii.com/article/2004/May/14/en/en05a.html

wombatX (wombatX), Friday, 28 May 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Well it came out while we were away. I bought it Tuesday but haven't given it a whirl yet. Any new thoughts?

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I have taken to skipping the first track because it is just a little too annoying for me right now. I have really only listened to it at work, though, so I don't know if I am being fair. It's still equal parts brilliant and awful for me; every once in a while I hear some lyric or instrumental flourish that makes me cringe, but then a minute later, I'll hear some brilliant passage that's really evocative and touching, and I'll think "I forgive you!"

I can't imagine that I will ever listen to it as much as Gallowsbirds Bark.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Your relationship with Blueberry Boat worries me.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Fiery Furnaces are unlistenable.

ddb (ddb), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

you posted that below two people who apparently listened to them and survived!

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I didnt say "listen to them and die"

What I meant to say is, they are FUCKING awful!!!

ddb (ddb), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a great tagline for an upcoming release.

"Listen To Them...And Die!"

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

What I meant to say is, they are FUCKING awful!!!

not to nitpick, but shouldn't "awful" be the word in caps?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm curious about what annoys some people, the stuff that makes them cringe. Would anyone care to be specific?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I loves me some Blueberry Boat. That said, the cringing for me comes whenever I see a picture of them. Indie rock fucks.

adam (adam), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

indie fock rucks!

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

not to nitpick, but shouldn't "awful" be the word in caps?

-- amateur!st (amateur!s...), July 16th, 2004.

No.

ddb (ddb), Friday, 16 July 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I love this album

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

matthew:

when she talks about taco crunch, dairy queen, or sings horrible out of tune

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

HORRIBLEE

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

horiblée

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hörrible

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I like that they make all kinds of references to cell phones, chain stores, junk food, things like that. Those kind of details don't come up in that much pop music outside of hip hop these days.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, unfair (about them being horrible). I saw them a couple of months ago at some party and even though there was free beer and booze, they made me forget about having to take a piss for a good half hour or so. There was some dancing too which was kind of nice. anyway, they were pretty good performers and I din't get to make out too many of the words.

danh (danh), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

that being said, their bass player used to rent me my dvds and i've got some questions.

danh (danh), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I like that they make all kinds of references to cell phones, chain stores, junk food, things like that. Those kind of details don't come up in that much pop music outside of hip hop these days.

comes out incredibly dorky to me

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I just listened to this again the other day, and am reminded that every time I listen to it it increases in it's value for me as THE BEST EVER. I seriously think it's still getting better after months, and may quite possibly be a dense work of aaaaaaart.

Every time I hear it, it gives me so many ideas, makes me feel so creative - I really think it's a tremendous achievement. There's so much to it. I think it's the perfect counter to GB (although it retains their specific quirks), in a lot of ways, and I have to say I think it's a little bit greater for me. (Although I wouldn't play it so much for a light and relaxing mood like I might with GB)

I really hope they can keep this up, and deliver something new, surprising and unique, yet also a direct continuation, for subsequent records.

John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 16 July 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously, i way everyone talks about this album, I WANT TO LIKE IT I SWEAR.

but i don't. it's horrible. i'll try again though.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 16 July 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

On first listen I thought, "What the hell where they thinking? GB was so amazing and they're just throwing it all away by making this new record so convoluted and long and awkward." But after 2-3 weeks i can't get parts of this record out of my head and I left it at work for this 4-day weekend as I move, and I'm pissed because I want to hear it again now. Sadly, GB now sounds sort of shallow in comparison. Go figure.

Thank god ilxor is back!

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 17 July 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate the new album. Hate it.

I do like "Single Again" a lot, however. Better than anything on Blueberry Boat.

abegrand, Saturday, 17 July 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I was actually thinking the other day that BB might have been better off as a more concise, concentrated album. I haven't really given it much thought, but those first 8 or so songs really work together thematically for me, and I think they would be perfect collection of songs on their own. As much as I like a lot of the other songs, it does seem a little like they want to cram as much as they can on to a cd. I don't think it helps the album's accessibility, given there's so much to take in.

Not that I imagine they care, I think this is just my personal preference. I am struck by it most times I listen to the record, though.

John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 17 July 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

They recorded it in two sessions, six months apart, and if you look at the liner notes, 1-7 and 9 are from the first set, 8 and 10-13 from the second. So John, your read on that makes sense.

I prefer the first half, if you really set 'em next to each other that's the inspired one, but personally I wouldn't shave more than maybe 2-3 minutes off the whole album.

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Saturday, 17 July 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Great album. I might actually have to buy it. Someone else listened to the first one and said it sounded kinda like The White Stripes, but its weird and then I didn't like their Fall cover very much so I hadn't thought much of them (Why did I ignore the 'weird' comment!?!).

I regret this all now, of course.

It (along w/reading a book) inspired me to write a bunch of bullshit about it and take my blog out of hiatus.

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I kinda agree that the album loses steam after "Chief Inspector Blancheflower," but I still like the rest of it. Ideally, I wish that the final third of the record could have been a separate EP. It's not even that the final third isn't as good, it's just that after 50 minutes or so, my interest starts to wander.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 18 July 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

That's pretty much exactly what I meant. I like little seperate concise objects to own, generally, and I think they would both stand up pretty well as their own things.

Not that I'm really complaining! I just find it harder to get in to those last tracks where they are. I think I might just listen to them seperately. I can imagine the vinyl release of this album being more interesting, in a lot of ways, for the sections it splits things up in to changing the way the album is listened to as a whole.

John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Sunday, 18 July 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Soft Machine>>>>>>Fiery Furnaces>>>>>>They Might Be Giants
Had it on the discman while running around the other day. Good but not what I expected ( ie more garage rawk less prog.). Track one feels like an eternity-it was very hard to tell where one song ends and another begins. All my friends say its not as good as their first album, which I've never heard.

brg30 (brg30), Sunday, 18 July 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You know whats also good? cLOUDDEAD.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 18 July 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think cLOUDDEAD really has all that much in common with the Fiery Furnaces. The Fiery Furnaces, even at their weirdest and most prog are still doing very pop stuff. That's the beauty of Blueberry Boat to me, anyway - this huge complex mess which is nonetheless quite catchy once you learn to navigate its twists and turns.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 18 July 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

cLOUDDEAD aren't doing pop stuff? They are to me. Both have vocals that can grate and both have Eno-ness (I'd don't know if cLOUDDEAD knows this about themselves, they are mostly corny indie fuxx).

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 18 July 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also both groups have troubles escaping unfair genre descriptors.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 18 July 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

In those ways, they definitely have a lot in common.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 18 July 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Eleanor's voice really that grating? I can see why some people wouldn't like Matt, but Eleanor's voice just seems exactly right to me.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 18 July 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it, but I can see where people wouldn't. It's certainly in the limited-indie pop tradition, but it's not even that limited (and she plays it right, not singing places she shouldn't).

I should also say that I like to pretend the Fiery Furnaces are English. If they aren't I think they should be.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 18 July 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

When I first got Gallowsbird's Bark, I hadn't read anything about them, and so I was somehow convinced that they were Dutch. It kinda sounded as though Eleanor had a Dutch accent, and they just felt Dutch to me. Their music doesn't sound remotely American to me - sure, they reference American music, but it's in the way that Europeans usually do. The only American artist that I can think of who is really on the same page as them is post-Pavement Stephen Malkmus.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

They are from some far off whimsical land.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The other thing about the girl's singing and then I'll shuit up: bands are automatically improved by a girl singer unless really wretched.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

they are from fucking new jersey aren't they

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

NYC via Chicago, actually.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

also the girl one lived in england

tom west (thomp), Sunday, 18 July 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think her voice is all that grating, but the monotonous repetition of some of the songs/choruses (i lost my dog, straight street) can be so. that said, though, i really find myself getting into a lot of this on repeated listenings. this surprises me, cuz i was quite turned off initially.

frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I took me about a month before I fully "got" the record. I've had it for the better part of 2004 now, so by now it just feels really natural to me. Getting the lyrics book the other day helped too - it made some sense of some things, and renewed my interest in some songs like "Quay Cur" and "Chris Michaels," which I had focused primarily on the music rather than the words.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Does this album qualify as Off Broadway or what?

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

harshaw OTM

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

They come from the mystical land of Oak Park, IL, where I live.

I think "Blueberry Boat" is a work of genius, and as such I find it almost completely unlistenable. Which is to say, I can't ever imagine myself listening to it straight through, and without fail I find myself thinking of dozens of others things I'd rather be listening to less than halfway through the disc. I appreciate that they sound so different, but my enjoyment of them ends at the intellectual level.

Like a lot of progged out records, I wonder why they even bothered separating the tracks and giving them different names. It should just be one weird long song with Roman numeral headed subsections.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you not able to enjoy just listening to certain pieces of it?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, that's hard to say, since (to my ears) so many of the songs sound like little more than pieces strung together. But I also find a lot of the singing and instrumentation to be really indulgent in the most unpleasant way - or really unpleasant in the most indulgent way - and while I admire the construction of many of the tracks, I don't think they flow at all.

But I ramble. Ultimately, the album has taken me a lot of work just to listen to, period, and I haven't stumbled across anything I would actually consider enjoyable. Will it grow on me? Probably not, but I'll give it another try or two.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

For some reason it's also striking me as a childish cross between This Heat and Stereolab. Dunno. Just rubbing me the wrong way. Really precious.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

This Heat meets Stereolab meets the Buggles meets Beefheart meets Pavement meets Eno. Which shouldn't be bad, and yet...

Dunno. Maybe I just don't like the lyrics. And the piano. And the keyboards. And the drum machines. And the guitars.

Well, that's most of it. I shudder to imagine how much my wife would hate it.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

They're from Oak Park? That's my hometown...weird.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I did think of This Heat when I was first listening to the album just because I was listening to them at the time and both have songs/parts pasted together in a seemingly arbitrary way (I imagine there is a fair amount of proggy stuff that sounds like this). Thats the only connection I can hear though.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I finally got the "Single Again" single... that B-Side, "Evergreen," is downright poppy. (and very pretty, too).

Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it a lot. I don't think I would have liked it much, say, two years ago. My prog-ears are developing. Maybe I'll be ready for a Yes record soon!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

my girlfriend hates it and throws a wobbly every time i put it on.

glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Thursday, 29 July 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

it IS a bit overwhelming, isn't it? I mean, I think it's a great record, but I'd be lying if I told you I've listened to it more than twice

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 29 July 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

stop being rockists and just listen to individual tracks

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No, man, I like it. A LOT. I think "Paw Paw Tree" is brilliant, and I DO listen to individual tracks. That's my point - I only reach for it when it's time to make a new mix tape for the car.

I think I like the B sides best. "Sweet Spots" is the SHIT!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"my girlfriend hates it and throws a wobbly every time i put it on."

- betcha she's just ealous of jealonor

i kinda am too, her voice is so great... but sucking on that franz ferd's pointy adam's apple is not my idea of sexy. it's even pointier than his shoes.

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man her voice is horrible.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

the words "this heat" should not even be mentioned in the same paragraph with "fiery furnaces." unless you were saying "this blasted heat is making me thirsty and turn off that damn fiery furnaces record."

jess, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

hey don't yell at me brother. I didn't say they sounded alike.

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

they sound like Nick Drake if he had lived to play with New Order

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

charles hayward if he had decided to play with the monkees

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Of Montreal if they decided to play with the Who.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

- betcha she's just ealous of jealonor

i think that's it, i went to splendour in the grass on the weekend and told my girlfriend if i saw her i was gonna put the moves on her.
it didnt help things.

glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"oh man her voice is horrible."

- Well, cutlery, that is why we aren't the same person, amazingly! I am I and you are you! Hurray!

Thea (Thea), Friday, 30 July 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

stop being rockists and just listen to individual tracks

This is the key to getting into the record. You can't just listen to it as a big block of songs until you really know them all and feel comfortable. If you take each track on its own, it'll be easier on you, and make things more manageable. I assure you that the songs have a pretty easy flow once you know your way around them. Really, it's just a bunch of clever pop songs - it's only difficult because it's so dense when you take the whole thing in one sitting.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 30 July 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm curious about what elements of Blueberry Boat (or the Fiery Furnaces in general) some of you are relating to Stereolab. I'm very familiar with both band's catalogs, and I don't hear much similarity aside from, I don't know, keyboards and female vocals. I suppose it wouldn't be shocking if the intro part of "Blueberry Boat" was on a Stereolab album, but that's all I'm hearing.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 30 July 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

There are some moments where she kind of sounds like Laetitia Sadier, no?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 30 July 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the intro to 'blueberry boat' and getting amped up about waiting for it to repeat at a later point in the song is what sold me on the album as a whole..

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 30 July 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

somewhere between the kubla khan and once upon a time in america this record lies.

Maneating Leopards of India (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 30 July 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

somewhere between the emperor's new clothes and the rime of the hipster poseurs . . . Drop this CD into jukebox shuffle with Velocity Girl's entire catalog, and you'll begin to appreciate just how terrible this album is.

Stu Dio, Friday, 30 July 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

you're clever.

Maneating Leopards of India (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 31 July 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

stop being such a hipster poseur

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 31 July 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...
Just d/l'd it today. So far I don't think it's as good as the yay people are making it out to be or as bad as the nay people think it is. Her voice doesn't annoy me but some of the lyrics do. The music seems alternately brilliant and aimless. I'll keep listening and report back.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

this album is fascinating. cannot believe just how good it actually is.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

so is eleanor dating alex from franz ferdinand or wot?

splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

What I can't decide about these guys is how much I'm annoyed by the two melodic patterns they beat into the ground - alternating between the 3rd and the root of a scale, and then resolving phrases with an emphatic, spirited walkup from 5 (hardly an original trick). The backing tracks are immensely imaginative, but as melodicists they aren't much. I don't know if this reinforces the cohesive 'concept' feel or just gets annoying.

Anybody have a take on this? I don't demand melodic originality, but this seems to be taking it potentially too far.

southern lights (southern lights), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I thought that "Gallowsbird" had more memorable melodies on it. Apparently "Gallowsbird" was largely Eleanor songs that she'd been playing around with for years, whereas "Blueberry Bloat" is mainly stuff that Matthew wrote over a short period of time for the album. From this I think we can see who wears the songwriting pants in the family (and it aint Matt, god bless him).

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 September 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

SL, I know which melodic patterns you're talking about, but how ubiquitous are they? Don't they have a lot of strong melodies that have nothing to do with them?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 9 September 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I figured the repeating melodies were an intentional thread running through the record, sort of like a musical might insert bits of one song into another.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 9 September 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I see it like a Smile thing, where elements of Heroes and Villians reappear in other songs. The structure of the songs on Blueberry Boat, which are often said to be a sort of Who mini-opera type thing, remind me as much or more of Song Cycle-era Van Dyke Parks.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

My mate Dave and I met Eleanor a couple of weeks ago, after their (stunning) Nottingham gig (with the very-nearly-as-stunning Sons & Daughters).

Dave said: "I first got into your music through an MP3 blog called Said The Gramophone."

Eleanor said "Oh, yeah..." and nodded emphatically, like she already knew exactly what STG was. (Either that or she was humouring him.)

As happens so often when I meet performers, my mouth froze up and no sound came out.

But what I was trying to say, even though my mouth wouldn't let me, was "And Fluxblog! I found you through Fluxblog!"

Because, y'know, I wanted to say the word "Fluxblog" in front of Eleanor.

But I didn't. Sorry Matthew.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Robert Christgau put Blueberry Boat in the dud column. :-(

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

so what.

rainman (rainman), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Christgau's taste is pretty lame, especially lately.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the trashing that Metro gave the album on Monday was far more culturally important!

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

metro trashed the FF???? thats terrible.

splooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

History is soooooooo not going to be on the side of the anti-Blueberry Boat people.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

revisionism has its benefits.

splooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

but matt wrote those blueberry boat songs years ago, too. it was all back-catalog, just newly improvised arrangements that were done kinda on the fly during recording, I gather. regarding gallowsbird's matt wrote leaky tunnel based on eleanor, beginning to inca rag, don't know about name game, don't dance her down was a changed/remade old blues tune or something, same with rub alcohol, I think crystal clear, I'd have to say bow wow, and then we got the black plague. but eleanor did the best two in my opinion, tropical ice-land, and bright blue tie.

gerber, Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I love this album, because it's the only album I've heard in years that has been consistently getting better and better for... oooh, 4 months? I've come to the point where I pretty much slap it on and enjoy the whole lot, it all feels so completely unfolded and revealed... I don't know, that's obviously stupid, but it was a daunting listen at first (and the first section of tracks was generally my favourite, with a couple of track highlights elsewhere).

Now, however, it's totally my comfort choice album of the moment, as well as being at the top of any list I am going to write, and as I do not make many lists - merely one which is titled "best things ever", which consists of entirely one entry - this is very good indeed. Yes.

I can see why people might be put off by the album, but... I don't care. And anyway, there'll be another couple along soon that they might like. Ah gosh, I like having a new favourite band. Especially when it isn't the Hives.

That's a really bad joke.

John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

last night, i had a dream they did a cover of 'ballroom blitz' in my bathtub

kephm, Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Pervert.

John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Last night i had a dream that i was travelling down south and i stopped by the fiery furnace's house to help their aunt with her developmentally challenged child. The furnaces were there and they were very nice even if they were a little slow. Kinda idiot-savant-like. We had a nice talk about the album. about the hype they are getting and how their album rewards multiple listens. Then they gave me chicken and helped me escape the guys who wanted to kill me dressed as railroad station porters. And the furnace woman took her clothes off, but it was no big deal. It wasn't sexual. She was just changing clothes. It made her brother a little uncomfortable though.

I really like this album. It's cool. challenge-haters and idea-haters were made to hate this album. it's really good though. of course Christgau is gonna hate it cuz he would have to listen to it more than once to appreciate it, and he's got, like, 50 albums a day to get through.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 November 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't know what they look like! I've never seen pictures. Except for the ones in my head when i'm asleep.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 November 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I've had weird feelings about this record ever since I got it. I'm sure I like it, but there's so many things about it that seem like they should bother me -- that would bother me in almost any other context -- that I can't figure why they don't. Bother me, that is. It's so goofy, and so much its own strange little world, with all its sea shanty shambling and rackety-racking, and all those stupid/genius couplets, I get sucked into it every time. Also, it seems like they're almost trying to make it hard to like them -- they're fighting against their own innate adorability -- and that just makes it all more endearing.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 19 November 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder how much i would like it if just the dood sang? hmmmmmmm, there's a question for you.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 November 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Barfberry Boat

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 November 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate how she sings every line likes it's a rhetorical question. If you are looking for challenges and ideas try Oneida.

FYI, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

not the last oneida album, maybe an earlier one?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I am selling this album back to the CD shop today and I am very, very, very happy about this.

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

THE BOMBAY ARMY'S NO JOKE!

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

i played the holy ghost/winter women one-two punch last night for the first time in about a month and it sounds better than ever. i don't really "get" why people hate it or think it's so wanky -- to me it's the most successful FF-related album(s) on the terms that it's experimental without going for cheap out-ness or unbridled showiness, and parts of it are very very pretty. it feels a lot more decentralized (not a lot of anchors to hold onto psychologically) and introverted than their pop-song stuff. people who say it's not listenable might be "listening" too hard -- it's really something that works best when you absorb it semi-passively and let random parts leap out at you. i like how both albums balance each other out, but the contrast between the two isn't too jarring -- one's slightly girlier and hookier, one's slightly more canterbury-psych/contemporary-classical, but they're a good match when you put 'em together.

louise jaguar (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

If the next Furnaces album really does have a "Rolling Thunder Revue sound," like Mr. F's been saying, I predict that I will be levitating with delight!

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

just listened to this again to see whether it's lost the initial magic

it hasn't. i may be southall's padawan but i'm definitely off-message as far as this lot are concerned. in fact, loads of people (my dad included) have just LOATHED this music out of hand. i can see why. it requires a certain degree of mental sacrifice and acceptance to integrate with, a degree which people might not be willing to bestow.

bitter tea's a joy as well.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Oh GOD I LOVE this album. I should really get around to Bitter Tea, and rehearsing my Choir.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

rehearsing my choir is beyond even MY corny indie fuxxxxxorness. i hope to 'get' it eventually. there are moments of brilliance, mind.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

fuxxxxxorness?

I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, anything that gets such a crap review on Pitchfork is something I want to like.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

you and I BOTH know that that 4.0 was payback for chris dahlen's 9.6 + 8.9 double-smash combination, it all evens out in the end

Just got offed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

See, I hate that attitude. Pitchfork are always at that shit. Remember when they gave Vespertine a pretty average score cos it wasn't Homogenic? You actually had to read the Homogenic review to know what he was on about.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

Produced by Matthew Friedberger over one very snowy, cold winter by Lake Michigan, engineered by Bill Skibbe and Jessica Ruffins, and mixed by John McEntire at Soma Studios in Chicago, Widow City includes the band’s first time use of the Chamberlain, a keyboard that triggers tapes loops of other instruments to create its library of sounds. The Chamberlain acts as the sole source of strings, woodwinds and harp sounds found on Widow City, and, as such, the sounds on the tapes are widows in relation to their long lost Husband recorded performances, living on and on, dressed in the audio black that is the lack of high end on these analog tapes. This idea is important to note on this recording, an LP where loss mingles with love, where husbands sit still on their honeymoon, where gurus are shunned, where words of affection are too faint to ever be carried by the winds of Cairo and more. When playing live, the band deconstructs the form of the songs on their records and reconstructs them anew for each tour; A similar approach was taken to Widow City as a whole, both within individual songs and as a linear narrative throughout the album. The overall arc of the songs as a group, as well as the transitions between songs (sometimes completely seamless), is definitely intended. Like past recordings, multi-instrumentalist Matthew plays everything on this record except the drums (played by Robert D’Amico, an essential part of the band’s live show for the last two years). The songs were inspired in part by advertisements from women’s magazines of the early 70’s, an imagined Ouija board by which Matthew might ascertain what his sister would want him to write about, and the cultural pages of alternative lifestyle weekly papers, or not. But of course, like all things The Fiery Furnaces create, to think these three elements are literally all there is to these songs and lyrics would be incredibly short-sighted. These references are the jumping off points; ultimately, the songs take us on their own journeys, through “duplexes of the dead” and “woods without berries,” to places where guitars flicker through sinewy keyboards. We’re moved by some of the deepest, head-nodding grooves found on any Fiery Furnaces album, punctuated by some of the most tempestuous musical storms found on any Fiery Furnaces album. “Ex-Guru” shimmers with one of the Furnaces’ most scintillating choruses, while “Restorative Beer” reverberates with bluesy guitar stabs contrasting the crashing cymbals that weave with the lead organ line. “Clear Signal from Cairo” is meditative and bass-heavy, and title track “Widow City” is a ballad infused with a nautical air through the instruments tipping from one side of the verse to the other. Widow City’s songs are precise, chaotic, and absolutely genius, anchored by some of Eleanor’s strongest vocal performances ever recorded (see “My Egyptian Grammar” for an idea of her range). Once you hear this record, we absolutely believe that you’ll be hard-pressed to find another album this fall as compelling, beautiful, strange, dense and magical as this one. Widow City is musical terrain entirely of their own making, and from a band as extraordinary and original as The Fiery Furnaces, we would expect nothing less.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, John McEntire.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

a keyboard that triggers tapes loops of other instruments to create its library of sounds

disco inferno alert! maybe we can convert ned and southall after all

Just got offed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

first album on thrill jockey too. i like that cuz i can always find thrill jockey vinyl easily. i will buy this just based on how much i liked blueberry boat. bitter tea i liked too but not so much that i kept listening to it that much.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Thrill Jockey. They make more sense on Thrill Jockey somehow. I mean, Rough Trade? I suppose GallowsbirdsBark was a bit NEWROCKREVOLUTION but then....

I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

For all the talk of tape loops, deconstruction, beauty, strangeness, density, magic, etc., I'd be much more excited if it mentioned something about giving Eleanor another note to sing for her melody lines.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

some of Eleanor’s strongest vocal performances ever recorded (see “My Egyptian Grammar” for an idea of her range).

I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

It's hard to tell if that means melodic range, or her emotional range as she sings the same two notes over and over and over again.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

There's truth in that. Still it works most of the time. It may be all she can do. So long as he keeps his singing to a minimum it's fine.

These Robust Cookies, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

I've long since disposed of Blueberry Boat. Total bag of shite.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

you have this uncanny knack of appearing just before I arrive, southall. is this the record on which we disagree most?

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

Probably not.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

here's an album that's a perfect advertisement for 'too bloody long'. this thing should be half the length. seriously, i don't have time for 9 minute songs when the music is this twee

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

I rediscovered it recently and love the Dr. Seuss silliness of the lyrics.

Maria :D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

I rediscovered it recently and love the Dr. Seuss silliness of the lyrics.

At least those that aren't lifted from Pynchon.

fukasaku tollbooth, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

'chris michaels' is great actually. i partially withdraw what i said earlier. though not everything.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

Widow City sounds great, compared to the double M. Friedberger, which had its interesting moments but is a real chore to listen to.

J Kaw, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

rehearsing my choir is beyond even MY corny indie fuxxxxxorness. i hope to 'get' it eventually. there are moments of brilliance, mind.

Rehearsing my Choir is easily the Furnaces' finest moment - and I don't expect it to be topped any time soon (though I will give Widow City a chance - even though I found long stretches of Bitter Tea somewhat tedious).

o. nate, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'd be much more excited if it mentioned something about giving Eleanor another note to sing for her melody lines

Very OTM

o. nate, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

just listened to this again to see whether it's lost the initial magic

Any time I see this kinda sentiment, I know it's sure to be crap.

libcrypt, Friday, 13 July 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)

disco inferno didnt use tape loops of instruments; they used midi guitar and drum interfaces to trigger found sounds as well as the occasional harp

uptown churl, Friday, 13 July 2007 06:20 (eighteen years ago)

hmm, did i really need that semicolon

uptown churl, Friday, 13 July 2007 06:29 (eighteen years ago)

Any time I see this kinda sentiment, I know it's sure to be crap.

maybe, smartass, i hadn't listened to the album in about 6 or 7 months, and didn't have especially fond memories of the last time. i was pleasantly surprised!

Just got offed, Friday, 13 July 2007 09:22 (eighteen years ago)

anyone else think this is the first reactionary FF album?
or is this return to (albeit shorter) blueberry boatish pop just the band coming full circle?

also there is way too much talking eleanor for my taste i think.

Jordan Sargent, Friday, 13 July 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

five years pass...

One of the guys I went to high school with was really into the Soft Machine. He loved (well, still does!) all that avant-garde stuff that major rockers managed to get released in the late 60s/early 70s - Thunderclap Newman, Harrison's Wonderwall/Electronic Sound/etc. His folks were musical too, but from the American Songbook tradition - so you see where this is all going to end up. Thought of him while listening to Blueberry Boat now.

Album is great and still feels like it's pushing forward. Wonder if they watched the Monkees' Head much? The wilder shifts reminds me of Head and the Monkees had that American Songbook element too. Monkees probably secret influence on everything.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 07:30 (twelve years ago)

still one of my very favorite 00's records

sleeve, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 07:36 (twelve years ago)

twelve years pass...

Just noticed that FF has the Blueberry Boat lyric book back in print:

https://thefieryfurnaces.bandcamp.com/merch/blueberry-boat-book

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 4 October 2025 06:50 (five months ago)

I'm tempted. Matthew has the same regard as me for bad translation engines

imago, Saturday, 4 October 2025 06:57 (five months ago)


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