Yes piece by Dave Q

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It has already been linked to separate threads twice in just hours, but dammit, this piece still deserves it's own damn thread, so...

Here... it is.......again.............. Yes

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, CAN anything beat that first paragraph? NO.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think most things can beat the photo caption alone.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It is my favorite thing in the world right now.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

what has dave q been smoking, recently ?

my favourite Yes track is Awaken

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh guess.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The photo caption's a beaut, adapted from The Man's prose too. Grand.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"electro orcus-dorkus" is worthy of a prize in and of itself.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't make it through a paragraph without blowing coffee out my nose

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I barely made it through a sentence at a time. The recurring trope of "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is like the brilliant chorus of a kickass song (if you will).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I am SO proud of this one, I have to say.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done to both of ya.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

As well you should be.

x-post

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I demand all letters to the editor from people who didn't get the joke be shared with us.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I am SO jealous of this one, I have to say.

chuck, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave's leaving this island?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all your fault.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Props, this is great.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You know how I said on the Kill Your Idols thread that there were only three or four rock critics I actively felt jealousy towards? Dave Q was #4. True!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

See, if Dave Q was writing Kill Yr Idols instead of those fules I would be looking forward to it so much.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

trudat!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my God. Dave Q again asserts total supremacy. Matos you are a prince among men for running this magnificent THING.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

WOW

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

after reading that Tormato thing ages back, I found out they were doing a tour and was like, yep, it's time.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

you're a regular joe torre!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

; )

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

DAHLDISCO

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

god, i am never writing again

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

MANO A MANO TURTLE-DUDE

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

god, i am never writing again

Me, I feel like anyone in the men's draw at Wimbledon circa 1996 or so who wasn't Sampras.

See, if Dave Q was writing Kill Yr Idols instead of those fules I would be looking forward to it so much.

Yet again, El Diablo OTMFM.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(I also gotta say that personally I'm pleased as punch that after enjoying Dave Q genius on these boards for a few years as a near-private pleasure, I get to see him start taking over the world, as he ought.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

what everybody said.

Part of me feels it would somehow be better if he took over the world with his records. And now it seems he is leaving us, what will we do without his anti-english rants?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He will deliver them to you from afar.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Does this mean British Columbia will be his home again, at least for a while? Does this mean a Dave Q FAP is very possible in the near future for northwesterners?

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I am SO GODDAMN THERE whenever that happens.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

When did Steve Howe start looking like The Crypt Keeper? Yikes!

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 15 April 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.exzooberance.com/virtual%20zoo/they%20swim/sea%20turtle/Galapagos%20Turtle%20471009.jpg

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 15 April 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Awwww. Munch away, li'l buddy!

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 15 April 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

GODDAMN IT! I lafft and lafft and could not stop laffin'

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 15 April 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

O my ovaries are sore. Fuckin A. It's like Dave Q just keeps raising the bar and then is the only one who can clear it; motherfucker's just SAILING over it, while people like me are just Fosbury flops. DAVE YOU STAND ASTRIDE THIS NARROW WORLD LIKE A COLOSSUS.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 15 April 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

If I had to pick one paragraph:

Great as the show will undoubtedly be, were I a promoter, I would charge twice the admission for a Steve Howe–Trevor Rabin fight to the death! These two get on like Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. after a coke-fueled game of powerboat “chicken”! (“Mano a mano, turtle dude!”) Howe first left Yes to invent stadium prog with Asia, who produced the best-selling album of 1982, admittedly the year when the music business was so depressed that Chu-Bops were being vilified as a threat to legitimate MP3’s. Asia’s “Heat of the Moment” had a thundering kidney-defenestrating, medulla-buggering, etc., riff, but still got blown up like a box of kittens by Rabin’s “Owner of a Lonely Heart,” which simply “Owned” everything! Howe has expressed dislike for this spine-mincing, eyeball-vaporizing ROCK anthem on numerous occasions, a mystifying lapse of judgment from the man who invented both George Lynch and Loren Mazzacane Connors, but then Robert Plant refuses to sing “Pictures of Matchstick Men” live, preferring to do endless Scandinavian tours with bogus Whitesnake “reunion” lineups, so who knows how rock gods think, anyway? (Asia’s Geoff Downes on the enduring world-conquering appeal of his band: “Who wants to see some faggot farting around on a synthesizer with some tart squeaking on top, calling it the cutting edge of dance music?” And who wants to see the “new” Yes logo anywhere?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

whew! fucking stunning, that.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

AWESOME piece (well, a few dips here and there, but mostly quite wonderful). The two paras highlighted by Ned are particularly great.

Julio OTM. Is q really leaving us? :(

Jeff W (zebedee), Thursday, 15 April 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
All the accolades for this piece of ridiculous writing are perplexing to say the least. The only explanation I can think of for the article being published anywhere (even a free paper) is that this guy works for free. Or nepotism. Or blowjobbing his way to the top.

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Ah, your attempt to explain why Rick Wakeman is 'misunderstood' was rejected, then.

dali madison's nut (donut), Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I like a lot of Dave Q's other stuff and he seems really well informed but this thing just doesn't do it for me. It's mostly because it's not funny. When I read it, I feel the same way I do when I read Mad Magazine where I know when they're trying to be funny but think "...how is this funny?"

~~~~~~~, Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

but steve howe DOES look like a galapagos turtle!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

i've got to admit that the worshipful attitude toward dave q around here has always kinda baffled me.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck is this piece trying to say exactly and, more importantly, WHO is it meant for? The only audience I can see for this are 10 people on ILM, truthfully. Anyone who knows this much about Yes is probably not going to want to read a long condescending mockery. Anyone who would want to mock them wouldn't know what the fuck Dave Q was talking about. It's so very specific in its referential humor, I can only presume it was written for Dave Q. A stream of consciousness joke you tell yourself is not good writing.

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

I thought this thread had been much longer, with a long discussion about what "true summers" was a reference to. Was that a different thread or did a pile of posts get lost?

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck is this piece trying to say exactly and, more importantly, WHO is it meant for?

It was actually for you. Alas, you were sad at the time.

(I refuse to engage with your complaints seriously because 1) they aren't new, therefore you are less transgressive than you think and 2) I don't buy them.)

Ned at dali's place (donut), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

1) Project much?
2) I don't buy your not buying it. So this writing was written for the average person who knows everything about Yes (or enough to understand this nonsense) and wants to mock them? Must be a large readership for that. When's the hilarious best-selling biography due? I don't buy that. Nobody would buy it. (Well, you might buy it.)
3) I don't buy your refusal to engage with complaints on stated grounds.

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Anyone who knows this much about Yes is probably not going to want to read a long condescending mockery.

FUNNIEST FUCKING ASSUMPTION OF THE YEAR! (and a late entry at that. Good job!)

dali madison's nut (donut), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

http://www.skapunkandotherjunk.com/images/Icons/peewee_francis.jpg

I don't buy your arguments are what are mine?

dali madison's nut (donut), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that WAS the funniest fucking assumption all year. Oh my, no exaggeration. Really. Are you fooling me? No. So who are you fooling?

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Generally, even if I know zilch about a band, I can read an article about them and have some fucking clue what the band is like and what the writer is trying to say. Not so with this article. I read parts of it aloud, laughing, to a friend who did not comprehend at all and asked "what the fuck, is this person insane?" then, read as much as the article as could be tolerated I suppose, over my shoulder, and concluded it must be a free paper. Trying to decide what the point was, I decided it must just be a general response to the idea that the paper had the obligation to report Yes was playing in Seattle, but it certainly didn't do a service to anyone who was looking for information about the live show.

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

is your email addresss 'turtle dude'?!?!?!?!?!?!?

jhksdl, Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

reading's hard

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Thank you, blount, for bringing up another rather obvious point: a throwaway joke-piece should be easy. The overwrought nature of this piece also detracts from any purpose it might serve as humor.

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

For all you aspiring writers, here's a great example of how one sensible sentence can be split apart into one and a half poorly constructed ones with inappropriate punctuation and all around awkwardness:
"Was this the same Trevor Horn who didn’t produce Judas Priest’s Turbo (1986)? Which (despite the Wang Chung–y “Wild Nights, Hot & Crazy Days”) was a failed fusion of the pre-Moby (ha ha!) electro orcus-dorkus of “Don’t Kill the Whale” (Tormato) and 90125’s “Owner of a Lonely Heart”’s brain–squeezing, synapse-shattering, spleen-perforating, foreskin-separating, testicle-crushing ROCK AND ROLL!"

Okay, so Judas' Priest's "Turbo Lover" was a failed fusion of pre-Moby electro orcus-dorkus of "Don't Kill The Whale" off Yes' "Tormato" and "Owner of a Lonely Heart" off Yes' "90125" album? Well, that's great, but what does it have to do with Yes? Oh yeah: Nothing! What was it that apparently put Dave Q in mind of Judas Priest? The sentence just before this reads that "Anderson rhymes 'throw' with 'try' and 'and you' with 'blind you,' like a Corey Hart from New Zealand." I guess this strange pronunciation must have been what reminded him of Judas Priest, despite the fact he says nothing about Judas Priest's vocal stylings whatsoever. Also, just to understand the sentence, you have to know who made the "Tormato" and "90125" albums because if you read Dave Q's sentence it sounds like the Buggles wrote it: "The Buggles album (1979’s Drama, recently reissued by Rhino alongside 1978’s Tormato and 1983’s 90125) had the best Deanscape and the weirdest vowel sounds in the history of singing." Now, of course, when he says "Buggles album," he means "Yes album" featuring ex-Buggles singer," but you'd have to know that already because you won't learn it here. Unless, both the Buggles and Yes have an album called "Drama" and he really is referring to a Buggles album, in which case this is even more confusing. Oh, you also should be familiar with Corey Hart's pronuciation and the New Zealand accent, because a "Corey Hart from New Zealand" is what the vowel sounds on this "Buggles album" sound like. Which has nothing to do with Judas Priest. However, the claim is made that the JP "Turbo" album is somehow a fusion of two very different Yes albums (neither of which sound like Turbo) with a little Wang Chung thrown in (riiight). There is also far-reaching reference to "pre-Moby (ha ha!) electro orcus-dorkus," which is oh-so descriptive of nothing, especially Judas Priest. But isn't this about Yes? Very, very bad writing!

If trailing off into an unsuccessful description of a Judas Priest album wasn't a genius enough way to write about Yes, how about following that bit of pointlessness up by starting off a new paragraph with a little Beach Boys reference, throwing in something about a can of tuna, and then degenerating once again into a completely obscure nonsensical non-point which requires not only the proper research/background, but also requires a good deal more of deciphering, all of which the reader should be expecting by this point, if he hasn't already sighed in disgust and turned the page:
"(SHE’S GIVIN’ ME EX-CETACEANS) “Don’t Kill the Whale” has a surprisingly sharp and sarcastic edge not usually expected from Jon Anderson or famous dead flute players: “Beauty/Vision/Do we offer much?” I’m going to throw this bowl of tuna away because it looks like dog food and I’m too lazy to make it into a sandwich. “Don’t Kill the Whale” would be remembered only as the fifth-best Disco-Sucks-disco (Dahldisco?) record ever (after “Miss You,” “Another One Bites the Dust,” “I Was Made for Lovin’ You,” and Don Felder’s “Heavy Metal”) if not for Rick Wakeman’s surrealist/intoxicated subversion of the material."

Rick Wakeman’s surrealist/intoxicated subversion of the material is what saves it from being the fifth-best Disco-Sucks-disco record ever? So what is it, then, if not that? Oh yeah, he forgot to mention what with all the hilarity going on! Was the parenthetical notation (Dahldisco?) really necessary in the middle of such a poorly articulated sentence or just a little show-offy to the point of detraction/distraction? This reminds me of when indie lyricists want to sound "deep" and so end up with something completely impenetrable to ward off all critics who "don't get it."

I would continue, but I don't feel the need.

To make this fair, I've decided to use run-on sentences like Dave Q and bold my comments while giving Dave Q's nearly-incoherent writing the benefit of a normal text presentation. This way, mine is a little more difficult to read, which just about levels the playing field. Otherwise, I would have to italicize Dave Q's writing and I really don't think it could stand up to that. It's hard enough to read already.

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

And, YES, I do get the "joke" that the point is being made here that Yes throws everything but the kitchen sink into their music and their music is long and difficult. But, you WOULD have to know that already or you will get nothing from this article.

Inside Outside In, Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

Yes is a pretty great band. And that's a pretty funny article. Sometimes I think people like to make fun of them because their fans are so defensive and prone to over-reacting to criticism.

prince rupert, Sunday, 18 December 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

You know I didn't like the article, but for totally different reasons than you. I mean, I thought all of his references and pre-moby and Judas Preist mentions all made sense and if you follow music enough to want to see the current Yes live, you'd probably get what he was saying (and he wasn't really being that obscure, although obtuse I guess). There's really no problem there for me. I guess I just didn't think it was that funny.

~~~~~~~, Sunday, 18 December 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it wasn't that funny at all. But Dave Q is rarely funny. I guess that's why he hasn't been in that paper in a long, long time.

abcd, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

that must be it

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah, god knows the music editor HATES that guy

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

what's truly perplexing is how people can find dave's stuff "not funny." i mean, they're certainly entitled to, but it's worth throwing out there that a lot of the people whose brains i admire most on ilx are present on this thread, calling q the king.

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

maybe it's comedy-rockism or something, that you won't recognize stoner humor as a legitimate milieu.

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

His Muse review at Stylus is pretty damn funny. And the comments by the Muse fans make it twice the joy.

van igloo (van smack), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Rick Wakeman’s surrealist/intoxicated subversion of the material is what saves it from being the fifth-best Disco-Sucks-disco record ever? So what is it, then, if not that

He never says it isn't that. He says that it "would be remembered" as that but is generally not because Wakeman's contributions obscure its discoid aspects.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Okay, so Judas' Priest's "Turbo Lover" was a failed fusion of pre-Moby electro orcus-dorkus of "Don't Kill The Whale" off Yes' "Tormato" and "Owner of a Lonely Heart" off Yes' "90125" album? Well, that's great, but what does it have to do with Yes? Oh yeah: Nothing!

If Trevor Horn, who was in Yes during the making of the two Yes albums in question, went on to produce that particular Priest album, it probably plenty to do with Horn, who was helping guide Yes, so yeah, there is a connection there, a really obvious one.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

The sentence just before this reads that "Anderson rhymes 'throw' with 'try' and 'and you' with 'blind you,' like a Corey Hart from New Zealand." I guess this strange pronunciation must have been what reminded him of Judas Priest, despite the fact he says nothing about Judas Priest's vocal stylings whatsoever.

The Corey Hart point and the Judas Priest point are separate and distinct points, and read as such.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

Now, of course, when he says "Buggles album," he means "Yes album" featuring ex-Buggles singer," but you'd have to know that already because you won't learn it here. Unless, both the Buggles and Yes have an album called "Drama" and he really is referring to a Buggles album, in which case this is even more confusing.

or he could mean it's the Yes album that sounds like the Buggles, which would work even if Horn hadn't been in both groups. "Buggles" here is a modifying adjective, like referring to someone's "Sabbath album" or "acoustic album" or "jazz-rock album."

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

Yes, how about following that bit of pointlessness up by starting off a new paragraph with a little Beach Boys reference, throwing in something about a can of tuna

"ce·ta·cean n.
Any of various aquatic, chiefly marine mammals of the order Cetacea, including the whales, dolphins, and porpoises, characterized by a nearly hairless body, anterior limbs modified into broad flippers, vestigial posterior limbs, and a flat notched tail."--Dictionary.com

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

matos i think it's unfair of you to expect yr readers to know how to read

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

It's like the occasional Onion article that is just too damn wordy to be funny. If I have to strain to get through a sentence, strain to make the connection from point A to B to get to the punchline and there's no payoff, then it just sucks.

As to ~~~~~~~'s point, none of this is obscure if you happen to be within a certain age range and have paid attention to the same details of music history as Dave Q. But, I'll bet there's a buttload of people who never heard Turbo, can't remember what Corey Hart sounds like (if they can even remember the name), aren't too familiar with a New Zealand accent, don't know who the Buggles are and either only know Yes from the 80s hits or didn't realize Yes sang those 80's songs and didn't know they hired the singer from the Buggles. And since all of this was taken for granted, it is both obscure and obtuse. While all of the above bands had a few popular hits, at this point, they are musical footnotes to many people with completely different interests; the stuff future trivia boardgames are made of. Yes is one of those bands whose music turns up in enough places that many might recognize it, but would have no clue who the band is, nevermind all the details of their historic timeline.

As to prince rupert's point, that may be true, which is why I asked "WHO is this written for?" It seems to me, about 10 people on ILM. I get the joke and I don't particularly care about Yes as people or defending them as musicians. I just think the article is completely stupid and funny for reasons that were never intended, much like j blount's comment, "reading's hard." Funny! For reasons never intended!

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

maybe it's comedy-rockism or something, that you won't recognize stoner humor as a legitimate milieu.
-- the people are such untight s wads (theundergroundhom...), December 18th, 2005.

It reads to me as "stoner" in a really forced, dorky way.

~~~~~~~~, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

you read a lot of cookbooks and instruction manuals there, IOI?

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

If Trevor Horn, who was in Yes during the making of the two Yes albums in question, went on to produce that particular Priest album...

EXCEPT that he wrote: ""Was this the same Trevor Horn who didn’t produce Judas Priest’s Turbo (1986)?"

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

it's like when the president gets too intellectual in his addresses!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

"I turned to the sports page and there's all this shit about these things I've never HEARD of! What the fuck is an end-zone? Great, tennis players are in love--WHO CARES! First you say baseball players are striking out, then you say they're on strike--pick a phrase already!"

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

As to ~~~~~~~'s point, none of this is obscure if you happen to be within a certain age range and have paid attention to the same details of music history as Dave Q. But, I'll bet there's a buttload of people who never heard Turbo, can't remember what Corey Hart sounds like (if they can even remember the name), aren't too familiar with a New Zealand accent, don't know who the Buggles are and either only know Yes from the 80s hits or didn't realize Yes sang those 80's songs and didn't know they hired the singer from the Buggles. And since all of this was taken for granted, it is both obscure and obtuse. While all of the above bands had a few popular hits, at this point, they are musical footnotes to many people with completely different interests; the stuff future trivia boardgames are made of. Yes is one of those bands whose music turns up in enough places that many might recognize it, but would have no clue who the band is, nevermind all the details of their historic timeline.

I will take issue with this. What should a writer expect their audience to know? Should you never mention any artist other than the one you're talking about in a given article? Is it really THAT much of a leap of faith to assume people reading the music section of a Seattle weekly know who the fucking Buggles and Judas Preist are? Come on.

~~~~~~~~~, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

The Corey Hart point and the Judas Priest point are separate and distinct points, and read as such.

My point is that it is a total non sequitur, since he goes on to say something that has nothing to do with Corey Hart or Trevor Horn, except that Trevor Horn didn't produce "Turbo." I'm sure a lot of other people didn't produce Turbo, too!

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

"I don't know anything about politics so the news writers with their insider jargon are CONSPIRING AGAINST ME."

xpost: Trevor Horn is one of the lynchpins of the entire article. Corey Hart has a walk-on appearance as a point of comparison.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

"non sequitor"??? stop using this insider jargon plz!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

(psst--it's non-sequitur, btw)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

I will take issue with this. What should a writer expect their audience to know? Should you never mention any artist other than the one you're talking about in a given article? Is it really THAT much of a leap of faith to assume people reading the music section of a Seattle weekly know who the fucking Buggles and Judas Preist are? Come on.

"Come on?!" Are you fucking kidding? I had to strain my brain to remember Corey Hart. My friend didn't understand word one of this because as popular as all of these bands are to some people, it's not generally an overlapping group of people. And plenty of people, such as my friend, would be completely lost. If you're going to mention an artist, at least write clearly.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

I had to strain my brain to remember Corey Hart. - this i can believe

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

if your issue is with the clunkiness and overstuffing of sentences, wouldn't little character bios e.g. "Canadian singer Corey Hart--who had a hit with 'Sunglasses at Night,' remember, kids?--with a New Zealand accent" just make things worse?

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

you and yr friend should check out this site called stylus - i think it's EXACTLY what you're looking for

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

So, you read it as Trevor Horn did produce Turbo and yet Dave Q says "didn't". Which is it? And what does this say about the readability?

xpost: wowie, I made a typo!

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

"New Zealand accents sound like this"

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

j blount, your joke is making a mockery of yourself, not me. Part of Dave Q's joke was that it was intentionally difficult to read, dumbass.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

if your issue is with the clunkiness and overstuffing of sentences, wouldn't little character bios e.g. "Canadian singer Corey Hart--who had a hit with 'Sunglasses at Night,' remember, kids?--with a New Zealand accent" just make things worse?

Yeah, that would. I guess you're not very creative.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

that's a relief!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

Judas Priest - Turbo
Released in 1986 by CBS
Produced by Tom Allom.


What was your point?

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, your point was to prove my point! Thanks, you're right, I can see why you were confused! It is bad writing, isn't it? Yeah, thanks, your misunderstanding is evidence enough.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

where is it part of dave q's joke that it's intentionally difficult to read? if most people have no difficulty reading it (i might be a little charitable but this is 6th grade level reading difficulty - surely between your and yr friend one of you made it past the 6th grade right?) i'm not sure exactly how it's difficult, nevermind intentionally difficult. were the letters too small?

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

I haven't heard that record, but in the piece's context, Dave's point would seem to be that it sounds a lot like a Trevor Horn production. If not, your point stands. But I honestly am not certain.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

that was xpost, btw, though I'm greatly amused by the "I'm right! I'm right!" 12-year-old glee IOI is demonstrating

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

i mean you've made it abundantly clear you're not exactly crazy about either reading or thinking, even at a 6th grade level (after all if rock criticism's too intellectual or obtuse for you how you ever gonna manage a real book?)(speaking hypothetically of a case where you would have an interest in one), so why exactly are you surprised that something potentially requiring the ability to do either might not be a pleasant experience for you?

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

seriously dude, stylus - it's right up yr alley

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

j blount, Matos just proved he had trouble reading it.

And you just proved you did as well.

HAHAHA!

The overwrought run-on sentences and the myriad varied reference points were meant to mimic the winding and challenging multi-layered aspects of an epic prog Yes tune as well as the ever-changing sound of the band's continual evolution over 3 decades as well as the fact that their self-satisfying extended masturbatory musicianship was something many found difficult to sit through.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)

total bystander just passing by to say

1. dave q's article reads nicely (he frustrates some of my friends - they say things like "oooh! isn't HE clever" - these are same friends who think they're writers but don't actually write anything)

2. inside outside, you seem sort of dumm

3. i started listening to yes right after seeing buffalo 66, too!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

dave q says better shit than "myriad varied"

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

wait lemme guess - you're SUBTLY MOCKING HIS AUTHORIAL TONE?!?!?!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

Matos just proved he had trouble reading it.

haha I read it fine; I just allowed that my interpretation might be off.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

and I hate to break it to ya, but Dave writes that way about everything. the only nods to Yes' structural style was the parentheticals at the top of all but the first graf.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

james joyce could totally have been famous if he weren't only writing for ten of his literary friends

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

jesus spoke mostly for the benefit of twelve people!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

inside out noone except you (o, and 'yr friend') had any trouble reading it, as you also have trouble reading our posts (which at this point are written at a 3rd grade reading level - ye gods) it suggests the flaw lies not with the piece but with the reader or "reader" rather. nevermind stylus - invest in some coloring books.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

dave q for messiah!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

Great points. I love how the little trolls jump every which way when "pwned" repeatedly. So, you don't like me. So, you like Dave Q. Great. Just say that. Stop trying so hard to come at me from a new angle. I am not insulted nor have you convinced me that I am a immature moron by your silly and desperate attacks, which only show me what immature morons you are.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

inside outside - if you like DAVE Q, you'll love GEORGE GOSSETT

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

James Joyce, yes... and he was writing a silly throwaway joke piece, wasn't he? Dumbass.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

'messiah'??? stop using this insider jargon vahid!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

hahaha trolls hahaha

nice to meet you, IOI. what's your real name?

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

inside out noone except you (o, and 'yr friend') had any trouble reading it.

Um, Matos thought Dave Q was saying Trevor Horn produced Judas Priest. And you didn't get that Dave Q was trying to be difficult and eclectic.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

George. My real name is George. Are you confusing internet anonymity with "necessarily trollism?"

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

I haven't looked at the piece in a long time (I edited it, so I get as much of your blame as anyone), but overlooking one word while browsing the internet hardly counts as a deep reading anyway. in any case, what Dave Q was saying was that that particular Priest album sounded like a Trevor Horn production. where's the mystery?

xpost: that's pretty much the definition of a troll, yes.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

just curious, george.

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

"sounded like"??? stop using this insider jargon plz!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

george on the schoenberg thread at his most opaque/oracular:

oh Schoenburg is so big, he's been to all the different forms, his opus nos. coincide with years of human non-developement (eg op. 42 piano/orch, one of my faves) -- is Kol Nidre a sreious devotional work ? am i too young to see the stench sarcasm humer of 'ode to Napoleon' ? the violin trio still grows, a concession to webern-esque instrumentation on schoenburg scale -- i still love the five orhestral pieces by s. -- those pieces between 1900 and 1920, gorgeous

webern will never know -- friendly fire? collateral casualty ? if Moses and Aaron had been completed it would have out-scandalised rite- of-spring surely

-- George Gosset (ggosse...), June 8th, 2002 6:00 PM.

pretty good, not quite dave q material but still... maybe on the zappa thread they go at it?

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

in any case, what Dave Q was saying was that that particular Priest album sounded like a Trevor Horn production. where's the mystery?

The mystery is what the hell this has to do with Yes and why it was thrown in for no apparent reason. This is obviously why you were confused. Bad writing.

Internet anonymity is pretty much not the definition of "troll". Handles are pretty common far and wide by non-Trolls.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

handle makes it sound like you fly a fighter jet!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

pretty good, not quite dave q material but still... maybe on the zappa thread they go at it?

Yeah, that's a pretty specific audience he's obviously writing for. Probably not the Seattle Weekly, I'd guess. Which brings me back to my question: WHO was Dave Q. writing for? By all accounts, it would seem the general public. And I'm sure the general public read about half of that article and turned the page or laughed at how stupid it was. Overall, a totally useless waste of space that accomplished nothing other than perhaps tickling the ribs of a very small minority of people.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the wikipedia link. Now go take a look in the mirror.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

yup, i'm a troll. a troll who's been posting under the same non-anonymous registered login name for over THREE YEARS.

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

handle makes it sound like you fly a fighter jet!

Vahid makes you sound like a weird foriegn dweeb who macs out on all the girls in the computer lab who are repulsed by you and your bad breath and it also makes you sound like you are a driver for your daddy's limo service in order to pay the bills for your SUNY school education.

There, I have just swapped you one reference.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

yup, i'm a troll. a troll who's been posting under the same non-anonymous registered login name for over THREE YEARS.

Oh wait, maybe you missed the first sentence:
"In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory messages on the internet, such as on online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants."

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

you're a racist.

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

and with that, good night.

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

I love how the little trolls jump every which way when "pwned" repeatedly.

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

See, that would make the 3 of you all trolls. I merely had issues with the writing. You all responded by projecting and insulting. Trolls.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

poke enough illiterate morons and you're sure to find a racist eventually

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

I think its our height and pointy headwear that makes us trolls, IOI.

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00028I1Q0.01-A1G29CW22J5UU0._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

How long can we keep this going, ya think? And will you ever come up with something good? Otherwise, what's the point?

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

you forgot one thing tone - 9/11

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

are you Jim DeRogatis, IOI?

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

what's a thing tone, blounty mah boy? And shouldn't you be registering my nonregistered user name by now?

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

and my chest tattoo keeps me from ever forgetting 9/11, blount.

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

Now how can I be Jim DeRogatis if my name is George?

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

o wow this is sad.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, George.

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

seriously it's been at least 9 hours since i've seen an illiterate racist have a breakdown like this. the paranoia's a nice touch - real nineties retro!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

blounty mah boy

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

yes, so sad. and yet you keep doing it.

Inside Outside In, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

nice comeback! you should write for stylus!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm missing the paranoia. Not surprising, since the illiterate racist thing are also your projections.

IOI, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

For a magazine that you seem to hate, you sure do love talking about it.

IOI, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

is stylus really that bad? i should look at it. doesn't half of ilm write for it? maybe i'm thinking of something else.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

right cuz i'm the only person on this thread to have called you out on that. seriously, i think you'll find the ability to read comes in real handy if you're gonna try to troll. ask esteban.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

scott you're thinking of mlb.com

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

blount's just bitter he's never been asked

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

$8-:{)

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

i would KILL to write for mlb.com OMG - FREE HOTDOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

they take them out of your salary, dude.

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

at cost, but still

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

:(

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

but anyway, George the pedophile

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

$B-{

$B-@

i can't get the bad breath to look right w/ the repulsive foreign 'stache, but i'm happy w/ how my glasses + wave are turning out

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

So, Stylus is a music mag. I don't waste my time with music magazines, since music critics are writing for people a lot younger, dumber or obsessive than me. People like you, I guess. I wouldn't have read the Seattle weekly piece if it wasn't linked through the Yes thread.

IOI, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

That's what I thought.

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

haha i had no idea what the hell you were doing vahid

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

$8*{@

now i just look like a french clown

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

right cuz i'm the only person on this thread to have called you out on that. seriously, i think you'll find the ability to read comes in real handy if you're gonna try to troll. ask esteban.

I didn't meant exclusively your projections. I meant collectively your projections, blounty mah man and friends.

IOI, Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

well i'm out on quim patrol - night fellas!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

those breasts don't inspect themselves

'Twan (miccio), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Oh did the "racist" thing come from my comments about Vahid? It just so happens the only Vahid I know fit exactly that description, just as, apparently, the only "handle" Vahid knows is an airplane pilot or something. I'm guessing that's a Top Gun reference, but I wouldn't know because that movie is right up there with Stylus on my list of priorities. No more racist than Vahid is a careerist.

IOI, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

xpost: and I'm sure blount don't inspect 'em much, either.

IOI, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

you may have enjoyed jim dero'sinside outside in's previous work as "I AM OTM," "Graphic Artist," and more.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

i will reveal his true identity for $20 american

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

haha oh yeah, i have admin privs on this board too!

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

(who doesn't?)

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

Oh my gosh! No, please don't!

And why have you not on all the other threads I've posted to recently? - aka NO!!!!! aka Justin Tymferdaholidaiz, etc., etc.

What is this? Selective revelation time?

IOI aka I'll Save You, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

In other words, you're a little late, numbnuts.

I'll Save You, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

"Der"!

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah that was a good one because it was easy to type.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

The USPS is the worst. I left a note the other day saying I tracked a package online which revealed 1 attempt was made 10 days ago and I didn't receive a single notification slip. "Please leave a slip!" I wrote.

I was saddened to come home to find the sign still there with no written acknowledgement.

Why? Because the truck delivers it and the truck driver is a "black bitch"! Not a woman of color, but a black bitch.

I hate to say it, but the black bitch USPS postal CARRIERS, from our office and home delivery experience, seem to be incredible twats with huge chips on their shoulders. Everyone else is fine, but the black bitches all have that head-shaking "oh no you didn't" attitude. The black guys are all really nice.

I'm just talking about carriers. At the Post Office windows, they are practically all annoying because they get attitude all day from the public. Mail carriers are generally kind of laid back... except for the black bitches.

Anyway, it really makes me want to threaten them, since it's not really feasible to jump out of the bushes and kick their asses, but I think even threatening to kick their ass is a federal offense. Besides, to attack or threaten the right one, you pretty much have to wait outside your building, which is a dead giveaway.

It pisses me off that these fuckers have secure government jobs and they don't give a shit about delivering your packages.

-- Not racist, but I'm sure you'll say I am (ohwel...), December 9th, 2005.

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm probably only a racist because I can barely contain my longing for the high hard one from the black guy in my building.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

this is rather amusing

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry Jody, I'm going to go pop one off to http://www.thickafricancock.com and dream of a world without trolls.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

strongo deserves a big wet kiss from the hooker of his choice

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

is strongo now known as "u saved me"?

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

no, i need my ile mod privs back

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

ok, off to see metal. keep on fighting the good fight, ilm. kisses 2 all.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Yakkety yak yak black cock yak yak homosexual longings yak yak racism yak yak I hate myself yak yak masturbating right now in fact yak yak.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

sweet chocolate maillady love

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

you must've ruled the playground with an iron fist!

and yet i'm still a troll pissing in the wind.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)

Let me reitterate: this used to be my playground, this used to be my childhood dream. And yet I'm still a troll pissing in the wind.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

Let me reitterate: you must've ruled the playground with an iron fist! And yet I'm still a troll pissing in the wind.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Did you ever hear of someone named "Fat Cat"?

Der MOderator Is MOderfying my Posts, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

Let me reitterate: you rule!

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

note to dickwit: when you're reduced to posting to yourself 6 times on the bounce, give it up.

The Wanderers' Wandering Daughter (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

Let me reitterate: you must've ruled the playground with an iron fist!

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm actually posting to someone very special.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

http://gallery.stlcomics.com/30cent/full/ironfist6.jpg

the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

Let me reitterate: you must've ruled the playground with an iron fist!

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

Now aren't you glad we've completely ruined this thread for at least a few scrolling inches? It happens every time, I tell ya.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Why don't you ever talk about all the good things I do for the community? Like Cthulha Musical: "A Shoggoth on the Roof"

I'm a living meme FFS. Cheer up, sport. Get some exercise, eat healthy, stop smoking, don't be such a typical predictable jerk. Study the Qaballah.

Der, Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

Samurai says moderator must kill self for bringing great dishonor to himself. Shame on the head of dishonorable moderator.

Samurai, Sunday, 18 December 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

*yawns* Great day out in Seattle today. Did I miss anything?

Ned at dali's place (donut), Sunday, 18 December 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

strongo went to a metal show and then drank goldschlager off the small of a 15 yr old girls back, tone updated his blog, jody played pinochle with cloris leachman and brigid berlin and then stole a sweet and low out of berlin's purse (SUICIDAL KLEPTO), me and emily went to club oasis this mexican club where they were playing this norteno polka stuff and this cute lil chubby fat kid was dancing and the beer was too much, i had six aspirin emily drank 24 oz of bud in 16 minutes then we went to party where we ran into doctor casino who dissed annie's 'heartbeat' and was dancing to 'no scrubs' when i left (this headache will just. not. GO AWAY.) and now i'm "watching" clear and present danger and i just took two advil MIGRAINE grade and a lil more beer and you're beating it to screencaps of naomi watts (maybe?). what up ned!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 18 December 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

I took six aderall, some pills a kid in a parking lot gave me and wound up hanging out with this transvestite. Pat said he was trying to fuck him but I dont know. We talked about the cover of Trancers II and how inexplicable it was that Helen Hunt was a celebrity and not just a soccer mom. Oh and MTV is having a True Life marathon and I swear that show is actually good, not ironically even, just actually.

~~~~~~~~~, Sunday, 18 December 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear god make it all stop

moley, Sunday, 18 December 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Poor Yes. Why can't this happen on a Velvet Underground thread?

prince rupert, Sunday, 18 December 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

what up ned!

It all sounds genius.

Ned at dali's place (donut), Sunday, 18 December 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Poor Yes. Why can't this happen on a Velvet Underground thread?

Make it so!

The Man Who Generates Long, Thread-Ruining Hatred From Twats, Sunday, 18 December 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

So then... does Dave Q like Yes? Or did he just do the necessary research to toss off an obligatory article?

The Adversary, Sunday, 18 December 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

toss off


haha you got that right

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 18 December 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

As you can see, I'm still wondering who its for. Apparently, even the editor is confused on that one. I guess I was right about this being the result of nepotism, blowjobs or free labor.

The Adversary, Sunday, 18 December 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

You must enjoy your weekends.

Ned at dali's place (donut), Sunday, 18 December 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm at work. We can't all be the big world traveller from LA to Seattle to hang with our online buddies.

The Adversary, Sunday, 18 December 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe this guy is still manning the ramparts

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 18 December 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

My whole existence on this board is dedicated to "manning the ramparts." The only person who seems to "get it" is Allyzay. The change has to come from you guys. As long as I have free time while watching a status bar, you will ruin every thread by projecting-reacting to me in your jerky fashion.

The Adversary, Sunday, 18 December 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

'you will ruin every thread
by projecting-reacting
to me
in your jerky fashion'

This would make a classic Gang of Four lyric. I can practically hear the deadpan delivery, Dave Allen's ganking bassline...

moley, Sunday, 18 December 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

inside outside - if you like DAVE Q, you'll love GEORGE GOSSETT

LOL

howell huser (chaki), Monday, 19 December 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

The same George Gossett who does not write throw-away joke pieces and has a clearly articulated point directed to a specific audience?

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

Now that mother has gone to bed only after me agreeing to take my pill in front of her, I've become a little more clear headed as a result and want to apologize to ILM for my behavior. Please understand that I only fire off racist insults and waste my time posting in chat rooms for no other reason than to irritate people because I am a loser and have no friends, no girl, no talent, no aspirations, no social skills, and not even the bravery to at least admit who I really am. While some of you throw your hands in frustration with what I say off my meds, I sit here alone secretly wanting to kill myself because I know there really is no point to my life, and I have no value. I've never accomplished anything, never will, and only get off on being mean to people. I'm really sorry. I'm off to stick my head in mother's oven, right after I go up the street to the truck stop again and spend a few hours sucking dick for the usual $5. Mother will need all the cash she can get to pay for my funeral....

The Adversary (jsoulja), Monday, 19 December 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I won't be reading that, but I hope you have successfully amused your pals and accomplished your heart's desire.

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

WORKS 4 ME

;-)

vahid (vahid), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sfu.ca/communication/assets/images/smythe.jpg

Good, as long as we are all happy!

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

i don't really like dave q.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

his writing, i mean. i'm sure he is a fine fellow.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

i don't really like dave q.

His writing or him personally?

I think a lot of people on ILX/M believe they are their words and this is why it's such a warzone. I helped to create the hostile atmosphere by leading people to the edge and watching them project off the cliff. I enjoy a good buffalo stampede for reasons of my own, but I can't really think of anyone here that I don't like. Actually, there's only a few names that even stick out in my mind at all and I kind of like them. These are usually the people that really hate me! :-D LOL. The rest is a faceless blob of sameness.

Anyway, I never took any notice of Dave Q until just this moment and he seems pretty funny to me. I just think this particular piece of writing is bad and I'd still like to know who it was intended for (I still say about 10 ILMers).

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

his writing, i mean. i'm sure he is a fine fellow.

gotcha

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

please get off on my fucking thread k thanks bye

dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

you emphasized your thread with an expletive

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Reading the piece now, I like it a lot more than I did the first time. It's hilarious (yes, for an obsessive freak like me and maybe not for most people but hey someone's gotta write for us). The way the references link together is kinda brilliant. It becomes even funnier if you imagine it read in the voice of e.g. Sean Penn's character from Fast Times at Ridgemont High. The only aspect that brings me down a bit is that he does kind of seem to repeat/take for granted the stereotypical criticisms of Yes without challenging them and to focus on their 'lesser' material. All of that does get a laugh for sure. It's just that I don't think dave actually hears Yes the way that most people who've made those criticisms do and I think they could still use a defence.

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 19 December 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

lol you fall down in that you mistake "being as bored as i am at work" for "getting worked up by my provocation".

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

As long as we are all happy! If y'all like 3 feet of wasted space on a thread, then I assume it's all going according to plan.

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

"wasted space"

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

i dunno if you've taken a look at the bulk of ilm lately, but...

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Actually, you fall down in that you mistake this for being an attempt at provocation.

"bulk of ilm" = warzone I helped to create.

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

haha

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

sigh

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

we're gonna look back on these days as the best years of our lives!!

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

are you laughing cuz I keep typing warzone as 1 word?

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

wheels within wheels

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

it's either this or solitaire, man

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Try the oracle of fortuna!

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

http://www.film.org.pl/soundtrack/slow_kilka/artykuly/images/16.jpg

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/cdsingle/pictures/slow-burn-jap_p.jpg

??, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/jack4640/skank3.jpg

gear (gear), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

well, at least we got a rofflicious gear pic out of this so far, so hope is not all lost..

but "LOL", please leave this thread now. thanks.

dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

If I left a thread every time someone asked me to, what do you think would happen?

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

applesauce

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Applesauce is no good if you're getting it just for going away. I prefer a standing ovulation.

Lol, Monday, 19 December 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

This thread reads well to 'Tales of Topographic Oceans'. I strongly suggest you try it.

moley, Monday, 19 December 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

I made new record shelves this weekend and realize I own a copy of Yes's "90125 Live: The Solos"! I've never listened to it, but I'm gathering that it's all solos from the 90125 tour! Should be awesome.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 December 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Guys, don't post anything you really care about here anymore... you'll likely soon see why in the near future.

dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

dali's gonna columbine this fucker

'Twan (miccio), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

oh noes!!!!! gasp. please don't delete all my hard work in one master stroke. you douche.

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

this thread is still going on? Jesus.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

It's also copied and pasted in case anything should happen to it.

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

tales of topological douches

http://www.merchantmanager.com/enempo/pics/douche.jpg

dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Cool! Have fun copying and pasting the rest of this thread, asshat.

dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

They look like toilet brushes, weight set end-pieces and dildos.

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

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album: <B>"Yes"</b><BR><BR>
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Beyond And Before<br>
I See You<br>
Yesterday And Today<br>
Looking Around<br>
Harold Land<br>
Every Little Thing<br>
Sweetness<br>
Survival
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Then<br>
Everydays<br>
Sweet Dreams<br>
The Prophet<br>
Clear Days<br>
Astral Traveller<br>
Time And A Word
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album: <B>"The Yes Album"</b><BR><BR>
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Yours Is No Disgrace<br>
The Clap<br>
Starship Trooper I: Life Seeker<br>
Starship Trooper II: Disillusion<br>
Starship Trooper III: Wurm<br>
I've Seen All Good People I: Your Move<br>
I've Seen All Good People II: All Good People<br>
A Venture<br>
Perpetual Change
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album: <B>"Fragile"</b><BR><BR>
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Roundabout<br>
Cans And Brahms<br>
We Have Heaven<br>
South Side Of The Sky<br>
Five Percent For Nothing<br>
Long Distance Runaround<br>
The Fish (Schindleria Praematurus)<br>
Mood For A Day<br>
Heart Of The Sunrise
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album: <B>"Close To The Edge"</b><BR><BR>
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Close To The Edge I: The Solid Time of Change<br>
Close To The Edge II: Total Mass Retain<br>
Close To The Edge III: I Get Up I, Get Down<br>
Close To The Edge IV: Seasons Of Man<br>
And You And I I: Cord Of Life<br>
And You And I II: Eclipse<br>
And You And I III: The Preacher The Teacher<br>
And You And I IV: Apocalypse<br>
Siberian Khatru
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album: <B>"Tales From Topographic Oceans"</b><BR><BR>
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The Revealing Science Of God<br>
The Remembering: High The Memory<br>
The Ancient: Giants Under The Sun<br>
Ritual: Nous Sommes Du Soleil
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album: <B>"Relayer"</b><BR><BR>
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The Gates Of Delirium<br>
Sound Chaser<br>
To Be Over
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album: <B>"Yesterdays"</b><BR><BR>
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America<br>
Looking Around<br>
Time And A Word<br>
Sweet Dreams<br>
Then<br>
Survival<br>
Astral Traveller<br>
Dear Father
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album: <B>"Going For The One"</b><BR><BR>
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Going For The One<br>
Turn Of The Century<br>
Parallels<br>
Wonderous Stories<br>
Awaken
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album: <B>"Tormato"</b><BR><BR>
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Future Times<br>
Rejoice<br>
Don't Kill The Whale<br>
Madrigal<br>
Release, Release<br>
Arriving UFO<br>
Circus Of Heaven<br>
Onward<br>
On The Silent Wings Of Freedom
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album: <B>"Drama"</b><BR><BR>
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Machine Messiah<br>
White Car<br>
Does It Really Happen?<br>
Into The Lens<br>
Run Through The Light<br>
Tempus Fugit
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album: <B>"90125"</b><BR><BR>
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Owner Of A Lonely Heart<br>
Hold On<br>
It Can Happen<br>
Changes<br>
Cinema<br>
Leave It<br>
Our Song<br>
City Of Love<br>
Hearts
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album: <B>"Big Generator"</b><BR><BR>
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Rhythm Of Love<br>
Big Generator<br>
Shoot High Aim Low<br>
Almost Like Love<br>
Love Will Find A Way<br>
Final Eyes<br>
I'm Running<br>
Holy Lamb
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album: <B>"Union"</b><BR><BR>
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I Would Have Waited Forever<br>
Shock To The System<br>
Masquerade<br>
Lift Me Up<br>
Without Hope You Cannot Start The Day<br>
Saving My Heart<br>
Miracle Of Life<br>
Silent Talking<br>
The More We Live - Let Go<br>
Angkor Wat<br>
Dangerous (Look In The Light Of What You're Searching For)<br>
Holding On<br>
Evensong<br>
Take The Water To The Mountain<br>
Give And Take
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album: <B>"Talk"</b><BR><BR>
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The Calling<br>
I Am Waiting<br>
Real Love<br>
State Of Play<br>
Walls<br>
Where Will You Be<br>
Endless Dream I: Silent Spring<br>
Endless Dream II: Talk<br>
Endless Dream III: Endless Dream
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album: <B>"Keys To Ascension"</b><BR><BR>
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Be The One I: The One<br>
Be The One II: Humankind<br>
Be The One III: Skates<br>
That, That Is I: Togetherness<br>
That, That Is II: Crossfire<br>
That, That Is III: The Giving Things<br>
That, That Is IV: That Is<br>
That, That Is V: All In<br>
How Did Heaven Begin<br>
Agree To Agree
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dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

You mean to imply I wear my ass on my head? Well I never!

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

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There seems to be a problem with your formatting.

LOL, Monday, 19 December 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

xpost

http://www.scientology.org/pics/std/dot.gif

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 19 December 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Serves everyone right on this thread.

Yes is a really boring band.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

weren't yoo tha dood egging everyone on:


-- The Adversary (th...), December 19th, 2005. (jsoulja)

if you weren't my apologies. kind of a lame flameout all around. i give it a c-.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

if you weren't my apologies. kind of a lame flameout all around. i give it a c-.

Are you trying to motivate me to bring up my grades? Is there any kind of extra credit I can do? Or should I just keep plugging away?

The Adversary, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

i just want you to be the best you that you can be.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

dave q more like dave poo lolamirite

lulz, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

A correction to all- I am not the boob who has been picking fights with everyone on this thread. I posted a fake apology under his name "The Adversary" upthread once to suggest that:

1. he is a major loser

and

2. that he go suck off some truckers and then stick his head in an oven

That's all. I don't like racists. I don't pick fights on ILM outside of trying to make a legit point. I do, however, enjoy telling jerks to put some rocks in their pockets and really go take the long walk off the short pier.....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm wearing my Klan outfit right now!

jsouljah, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

is this shit still on?

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

http://www.chess.bc.ca/images/yoos05.jpg

yes, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

d+

something interesting about yes through the years is their appeal to schizoids. the band they're into must have something

prince rupert, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

It must have Bill Bruford.

21st century schizoid man, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

i love bill bruford !

howell huser (chaki), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

How does me calling out a racist jerk make me a Klansman?

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

How does calling someone a racist jerk make them a racist jerk?

jsou|ja, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

Um, how does repeating what other people post NOT make you sound like a 4th grader?

(I almost bought the whole "my job is so lame, I start trouble just to put some spark in my work life. Looks like your personal life is equally lame. You must be very, very lonely....)

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/stanzas/Ad-Socrates.jpg

Personalities, Emotions and How to Deal with Others, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm still at work, too! For real. My imaginary girlfriend is using the printer.

Yup, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

This is fun!

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

That's why we're all here, right?

Yup, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

as my 11th grade english teacher used to say,

SIT DOWN, SHUT UP. SIT DOWN, SHUT UP. SIT DOWN, SHUT UP ...

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

I am doing both!

So stop berating me, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

God smiles on me guys! We got on the LAST train home. AND the strike is on which means I don't have to work tomorrow!

How about you?

LOL, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

The fact that people change my posts delights me. That's when you know you've really won.

LOL, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

NY1 just said we made history by being on the last trains. I've made a lot of history in the past few years as a NYer. I think it's getting to be about that time where I stop making so much history, quite frankly.

PS. Register all these user names so that nobody will ever be able to casually call themselves LOL, Way Logged Out (ooh, that's a popular one!) and all the future ones I will come up with.

Way Logged Out, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm confused. What's going on?

I like Bill Bruford, too. He's cool.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I even like Allan Holdsworth. He's way uncool !

blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

I have a Butthole Surfers bootleg that has a bunch of crazy stuff at the end and Rick Wakeman makes a sudden appearance. I had no idea who he was at the time and thought it was from some ridiculous phantom of the opera 70s show. He had on a sparkly cape and a generally crazy face.

Name D'Achange, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I even like Allan Holdsworth. He's way uncool !

i've always wanted to check out holdworth! where should one start?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

i've always wanted to check out holdworth! where should one start?

Just casually kind of look him in the eye first. Then, if it seems to be going well, kind of look him up and down. Smile. If he smiles back, give him a little wink. If he still seems approachable, you are free to walk around him and really give him a good look-over. Saying something like, "Mmmmhmmm, I like what I see," should get you home free as far as checking out the rest of him.

Namey Changer, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

OH DEAER LORD HOW IVE BEEN PWND.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Not really, I was just making a joke.

Namey Changer, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

sorry this thread is so full of bile it's rubbing off on me!

so anyway, alan holdsworth! guitar magazines i read as a kid thought he was the bomb!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Holdsworth? I'd start with U.K. or Bruford's One of a Kind or Gong's Gazeuse!

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
yes still rulez fule

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0608,queen,72218,22.html

best line--former primal scream lead singer kate moss also appears

par lagerkvist, Thursday, 23 February 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

probably the ugliest thread ever on ILM - and the piece that started it all is pretty juvenile and second-rate.

rufus shortes, Thursday, 23 February 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://myspace-960.vo.llnwd.net/00520/06/95/520895960_l.jpg

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 23 February 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

i like it!

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 23 February 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

i really want to hear "Sticks on Stones" now

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

worst thread ever? maybe....

gershy, Monday, 21 May 2007 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

"George. My name is George."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ugly thread indeed.

Lostandfound, Monday, 21 May 2007 07:52 (eighteen years ago)

Which is a shame because the Dave Q piece is fine in its way.

Lostandfound, Monday, 21 May 2007 07:53 (eighteen years ago)

No need for all the bile afterwards.

Lostandfound, Monday, 21 May 2007 07:53 (eighteen years ago)

Where is Dave Q these days?

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 21 May 2007 08:13 (eighteen years ago)

he's living in london

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 May 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

2005 ILXors = easy to troll

Dom Passantino, Monday, 21 May 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

When listening to "I Just Want to Use Your Love Tonight" on the radio yesterday, I finally got the "Outfield + Mars Volta" comment.

(I still think a bunch of generally nicer posts got lost.)

Sundar, Thursday, 13 August 2009 12:25 (sixteen years ago)


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