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anyone got a promo of the new rephlex grime comp? anyone know anything about the tracklisting? also anyone going to this?

http://www.rephlex.com/main_index.html

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Saturday, 17 April 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah its got 4 tracks from Mark One, 4 from Plasticman and 4 from Slaughter Mob on album...not what i'd call grime either, inner sleave notes dismissed...

― chantelle fiddy, Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, i notice that the guide yesterday has won the award for most retarded club listing ever: check this for next friday:
"Grime: Another Eat your Own Ears night with less than enticing name. Tonight the Bug, aka Kevin Marshall from Weymouth, bigs up new (sic) LP, Pressure (electronic, dub and dancehall) alongsiude Ras B, Warrior Queen and the marvellous Mexican"

who the fuck writes this shit? why cant i have their job?

― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 18 April 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard some of this the other day, and liked it a lot more than I thought I was going to. It's basically sublow/dubstep stuff, with no MCs. I imagine that if you're no big fan or this stuff, you wouldn't know it was anything to do with UK Garage at all.

― Jason J, Sunday, 18 April 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

it sounded REALLY great live, but i can't imagine wanting to listen to it at home, really.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 April 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

holy crap this is really good!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 April 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? Cool! I should be getting a copy here shortly.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 April 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

they've really managed to capture that spatiality they had going for the them live...there's a real sense of depth to these tracks, interlocking parts, space, the whole nine. (it kinda reminds of the best of the early neurofunk stuff like optical's "to shape the future".) it's also (and yeah it's a kind of corny virtue but given how cheap a lot of "real" grime sounds the difference is stark enough to be pointed out) very cleanly, "well" produced stuff. it's still not really dance music...ferocious head-nodding? (or headbanging ha ha ha.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 April 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Does it have at all that woozy, almost Freiland-style quality that some of the Plasticman tracks on Road have? I was really hoping to hear more of that...

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 30 April 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been hearing about this thing forever. is it finally on soulseek?

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

JESS, it is time to reveal your sources.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

don't think its on the seek yet - i've searched high and low but no luck. won't be long though.

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, it's there actually. i had a hunch as to where Jess might have heard it and it seems that I was right.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

and i got a hunch of my own which has also just payed off! woo and woo!

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

robbed in his sleep!

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha actually i got thee almighty promo

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 April 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"holy crap this is really good!"

Jess likes grime comp shockah.

― Beta (abeta), Friday, 30 April 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

well, that would probably be because it isn't grime andy

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 30 April 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

(jess's eclamation, not the fact that he likes it)

it's been discussed a lot and it's more of a dub/breakstep thing

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 30 April 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Wiley should do a review. "Wot do u call it? Grime? Dubstep? Et cetera."

― JoB (JoB), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

haha it's No crUnk Turn, isn't it?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what i did with my day today

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 April 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha Strongo i was thinking the other day that Nico can release Plasticman-style stuff as "Run U Out".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 1 May 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

wow i'm surprised by how literal jess' "to shape the future" reference turns out to be. i mean, it's pretty much straight neurofunk.

for my money the markone tracks remind me of grooveriders "mysteries of funk" - particularly "560" and "rivers of congo" - as would sound remixed by dave tipper.

actually dave tipper and fuel aren't a bad reference point for this stuff either!

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(i DO like it though, a lot - none of that's a diss in my vocabulary)

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

am i missing a gag here, or do you guys know about nico sykes releasing horsepower stuff on turn u on records? if you do, i'm being a dimwit and apologise to all concerned.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

or benny ill engineering for late No U Turn...

― martin (martin), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

and yannis - early horsepower dude - doing same

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

agreed. whole thing is pretty effin' dope.

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

no, i had no idea about any of that. for you see, i live under a rock, on neptune.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

What is this 'grime'?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

you wouldn't like it, nick; it involves black people.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And some shouting.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

but rephlex has helpfully provided you with an IDM "in".

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Errrr..what about all the Eski-dance kids who are going to get into Bogdan Raczynski because of this release? ;)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

haha oh my.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

these mythical constructs remind me of the famous gryphon of legend.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Black people don't bother me. It's this... urban... stuff.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

More trees on album sleeves for grime records, please. (Hello, Wiley!)

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The Tinchy Strider album is going to be all Vashti Bunyan samples and lyrics about hills and harbours, check it out.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Wickedy wickedy whack.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the name of the comp?

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll give you three guesses.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

A shiny penny if you get it right.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

is it "Grimey" adam?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

soooooooo close. C'mon mully, I know you want the penny. You're a syllable away from it.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

and I'll give you a clue - it's not called "imey".

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

grrrr?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Grime Out East (London?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Grimey a River?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"O gawd grimey"?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

grime?

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://freespace.virgin.net/philip.masding/images/penny.jpg

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Grime Aaginst Humanity?

Grime Scene?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i am thick.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Grime & Punishment?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, I didn't mean to be patronizing. I wasn't laughing at you, I was laughing at Rephlex. Come, join me!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, so it's just called 'Grime'? How dispiriting. Or how inspiring, in that Rephlex resisted the opportunity to make a really weak pun.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

like the braindance/barndance one.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

take a bite out of grime!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.xlrecordings.com/other/~wileypromotshirt/?first=1

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i dunno about those t-shirts

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Nor does the guy on the right.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my. I still want one, though.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah no shit!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

it's so gorgeously garish

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

like "wiley" was the successor magazine to fangoria or something

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I want the black shirt. Yellow is not my color.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I got sent the black T-shirt lalala. He looks better in it than me, obviously

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, so I finally got round to hearing this and...I'm REALLY surprised. Ceratinly it's far from my idea of "grime", which is all about the cheapness. But yes, as Jess says above, it's really well produced, especially the MarkOne stuff.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a copy as of yesterday and will ponder it. The cover...amuses me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the cover like?

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00022TPHU.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I wonder if Alex In SF would enjoy this? I wonder if Alex In SF has had an opportunity to hear the Wiley record?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex in SF hasn't! Alex in SF would. Alex in SF is burning limited edition DJ /rupture CDs for someone right now also.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the font on that cover is almost but not quite evocative of the Metalheadz skull logo, somehow.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

also - METAL
"the HEAD BANG-ER ! the HEAD BANG-ER ! etc"

― Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nixie-it.com/banda/html/modules/NS-My_eGallery/gallery/Art/siemens/x45-basement-jaxx.gif

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

sorta

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

make way for NEURO-DOLPHIN ... !

― Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

haha but "basement jaxx" has more curves on its letters! even the parts that look curved on 'grime' are all angled

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

its not very grimey is it, that cover? its clean.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 7 May 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

just like the record!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 7 May 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"Font expert" Spencer Chow to thread!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think i really need to hear this then. do i?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I know Raindance by MarkOne was previously released on 12" (cause I have a copy), is the rest all new?

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 15 May 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

some of the CD tracks came out Soulja, cos like the comp is a colaboration between Rephlex and Soulja and each of the artists had a 12" on Soulja first. the vinyl replaces those tracks with others tho.

― martin (martin), Friday, 21 May 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Total sidetrack but ACCORDING to the Rephlex website Keith Levene may be working on some of the new Bug stuff!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

now that would be very interesting. not that i've heard much of lavene's output recently. but it sounds good on paper.

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Friday, 21 May 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened to this disc twice and tossed it. i don't think there's space in my life for this kind of music right now. what is it good for?? getting tense?? maybe if i was a kickboxer or something i'd listen to this to warm up.

i totally agree with everyone else that this sounds like neurofunk but to me it sounds like just the warm-up parts of neurofunk tracks. like the build-ups without the release. sort of frustrating. and not bouncy and fun the way the first horsepower album was.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 21 May 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Markone in particular offers indelible proof of grime's potency as an incredible re-imagining of idm.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

why does everyone single out mark one out of that lot? he is the worst, using all those gash drum sounds. plasticman is the only bit i'll be listening to i reckon.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Raindance is ace, but I prefer Plasticman as well. How long can he continue with that name, though? No one in the scene will confuse him with Richie Hawtin I'm sure, but there's a world out there for whom it's all just electronic dance music. This CD especially will be stocked in shops that have no particular "grime" clientele.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

so i finally heard it. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't go that far, but I don't find myself compelled to listen to it all that much.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

raindance is quite nice. i'm guessing this sounds better through a HUGE p.a

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It's good, but it does get a bit much for a whole album.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i have cooled considerably. it was still amazing live. i can see why people pack forward out. but it doesnt make me want to listen to it at home.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Vahid's most recent remarks are about 10x more entertaining than anything on this album (the kickboxing bit made me chuckle). I could see it having power at high volume but in an everyday setting it just sort of quivers in place like a cellphone on vibrate.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

most of the album is not that great. like, they should have got rid of all the mark one stuff. thats the worst. plasticmans 'pmup up the jam' is better than all of his stuff on the album but its not even on the album.

but still, for old times sake
"FRIDAY 18th JUNE
at 'The End'
16a West Central Street, London, WC1
T. 0207 419 9199
(Tottenham Court Road Tube)
11pm - 5am

GRIME ROOM:
KODE 9
DIGITAL MYSTIKS
LOEFAH
DARQWAN

BRAINDANCE ROOM:
DJ REPHLEX RECORDS
ALEKSI PERALA (aka Astrobotnia)
D'ARCANGELO
DMX KREW
CYLOB"

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

its kind of the cold logical end of that deathly dull neo electro braindance they've been peddling for a while

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

IDM sucks life out of grime shockah.

zzzzz

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

plasticmans 'pump up the jam' is better than all of his stuff on the album but its not even on the album.

Not on the vinyl, but it's on the CD.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

all of this might make a bit of difference if any of this stuff was actually grime

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

what difference does it make. anyone who actually lived in london would know how small these scenes actually are, how few records are being sold and the fact that one way or another they all came out the darker side of uk garage. anyone that supports any aspect of the scene should be encouraged. the mc side of the scene is the one that receives all the hype from the press, partly cos its good, partly cos its easily facializable. u lot are fuckin whingin about terms like grime from miles away when loads of people actually part of the scene dont even like the term anyway.

― jon b, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon the size of the grime scene is much much larger than that of the Plasticman-style stuff - maybe not so much in sales, but definitely in terms of the sheer amount of talent at work and great tracks floating around - and yet it's the Plasticman-style stuff that's getting an internationally released compilation. In terms of official compilations grime has only managed roughly half of a Ministry of Sound comp that was never released outside of the UK anyway. Dizzee and (to a lesser extent) Wiley may have received some hype but it's a bit rich to suggest that grime has particularly critically/commercially benefited where Plasticman-style stuff hasn't.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 June 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The 12cd grime retrospective will be a thing to behold, trust me.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 17 June 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Will it ever happen though? If you tried to gain a knowledge of, say, 'ardkore or early jungle from the retrospective comps that came out these days you'd find it very difficult to get a decent or representative selection - Bukem's "Music" a dozen times, sure, maybe the Foul Play mix of "Lord of the Null-Lines", but little else of worth. And that was a *much* bigger scene in terms of commercial support than grime is.

That's why I made sure when I got into 2-step (mid-99) that I would buy all the comps floating about before everything disappeared (irritatingly, these are all actually still floating about for ludicrously cheap prices); but unlike 2-step there's been almost no official documentation of grime; and even if there was/will be, the MC-dependence of most of this stuff makes it even more difficult to document properly.

eg. Why or why was The Nasty Show never released?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 June 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

there is loads of 'unofficial' doc. of grime though - too much...seems like 100 cd+dvd sidewinder/whatever pack appears every 2 weeks....can be ordered from the usual suspects, surely even to oz...hate to see the p&p though,...

anyway i know its not what you are talking about, but it is possible to get this sort of stuff, and to be honest the reason that there arent many comps is that i dont think grime really works in a recorded form, so the most successful recordings are just tapes of raves/radio shows, which is essentially what the billions of tape packs are.

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 17 June 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

my listening exp is feeling that ambrose

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 17 June 2004 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone going to Dubstep, sorry, Grime@the end then? judging by Kode 9 and Digital Mystikz sets recently and all their new material it'll be v special.

― martin (martin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sherburne namedrops Jess Harvell in the new Wire: re grime

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 17 June 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd go, martin, but i'm going to this instead (because a friend's djing so i get in for free):

http://www.petball.co.uk/

i suspect there won't be much grime there though.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 17 June 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

this still isn't as good as the time i got namedropped on pitchfork

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

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