Bob Seger's "Night Moves": C or D

It can't be both? (I'm quite serious.)

seger's other stuff
is all up-and-down and stuff
"night moves," though, is DOPE

hollywood nights
beautiful loser
and ESPECIALLY the kinda by the numbers Seger but also kind of weird sub-springsteen in his early dylan knockoff lyrics phase FIRE LAKE!!!!

got you stuck off the realness, bob be the infamous...

(PS also the Bob Seger System album is ace pscyh-R&B with ultra classic Ramblin Gamblin Man)

Well, the encounters aren't anonymous, are they? I mean, it's just a couple of teenagers going at it in the backseat of a car, but I don't think it's ever implied that they don't know each other.

Not that it matters. I have to say it's "deeply resonant" because when I was like 12 or 13, this song represented what I thought being a teenager was going to be like, and I have to say, it sounded pretty sweet. I realize that's not what you meant when you said "deeply resonant," but I feel OK with that.

scott ce so fucking OTM....(also I grew up in a midwestern small town which might mean that it means more to me)....

also it's what being a teenager SHOULD have been like, but usually isn't....

also, I remember songs like this making me nostalgic for being a teenager when I WAS a teenager....nostalgia for the PRESENT...or nostalgia for something that never was....or I haven't got any sleep in days and I should SHUT UP!

Who’s gonna ride that chrome three wheeler
Who’s gonna make that first mistake
Who wants to wear those gypsy leathers
All the way to fire lake
Who wants to break the news about uncle joe
You remember uncle joe
He was the one afraid to cut the cake
Who wants to tell poor aunt sarah
Joe’s run off to fire lake
Joe’s run off to fire lake

Who wants to brave those bronze beauties
Lying in the sun
With their long soft hair falling
Flying as they run
Oh they smile so shy
And they flirt so well
And they lay you down so fast
Till you look straight up and say
Oh lord
Am I really here at lost

Who wants to play those eights and aces
Who wants a raise
Who needs a stake
Who wants to take that long shot gamble
And head out to fire lake
Head out
Who wants to go to fire lake
And head out
Who wants to go to fire lake
Head out
Out to fire lake

I WANT MY LIFE TO BE A CHEVY TRUCK COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW PLEASE!!!

WHO WANTS TO WEAR THOSE GYPSY LEATHERS?!??

UNCLE JOE IS AFRAID TO CUT THE CAKE?!?! (fart joke?)

i need a steak.

Scott OTM

also, I remember songs like this making me nostalgic for being a teenager when I WAS a teenager....nostalgia for the PRESENT...or nostalgia for something that never was...

Matt OTM

Not much more needs to be said, other than to affirm classic status. It's great fun to play that simple D-C-G progression over and over. I never tire of it. Also, been spending a lot of time with the album of the same name over the last 6 months or so; it's probably his best overall album, IMNSHO. And yes, I've heard them all.

also classic Seger:

hollywood nights

The drums on this song are friggin' great.

i agree with ned...it's both. it's a really well written and arranged song, and his singing is great too, especially those carefully strangulated high notes. i mean, the song is admirable in its counterbalance of romanticism and romanticizing-puncturing detail.... but even with all its lyrics acknowledging the bumbling, awkward nature of teenage sexual encounters, there's something a little icky about it.

i never had an adolescence like this :(... but i understand the feelinsg about this song offering one vision of adolescence for those for whom it hadn't yet arrived.

the drums on "hollywood hills" ARE great. seger has a bunch of really great songs.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), May 22nd, 2004 1:05 PM. (vassifer) (later) (link)
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"used to"? have you come around?

he really is (was) a good songwriter, a better than good singer...and his best records have really classic r'n'r arrangements, exciting and meaty without being (like much of his lesser, and later, stuff) too thick and portentous.

(j/k)

D: "Shakedown," featuring the stomach-turning chorus, "Shakedown, breakdown--you're busted" and then the lamest robo-horns ever. From the Beverly Hills Cop 2 OST, natch.

Not really, but his like has become pretty scarce....unless you count Kid Rock.

Even better than Cougar's "Ain't Even Done With the Night," which is also classic in the exact same bra-strap-fumbling vein.

i'm not a big seger fan (i started a "defend the indefensible" about him a year ago, remember?). but i do like this song -- especially the slow part towards the end, where segar "wakes up to the sound of thunder," starts humming a "song from 1962," remembers the backseat romance of this song, and (as if to not dwell too long on it) notes that autumn is closing in. for some reason, it seems to sum up memories of that sorta thing pretty well esp. as one grows older -- think about it a while, then move on. and yeah, the music arrangement is pretty nice.

i also remember first hearing this when i was, like, 8? not having any knowledge of nookie, i just thought it was about a detective ("working on mysteries w/t any clues" and all).

Also, I got the chords wrong up there; I was trying to do it from memory. I had the I-IV-V in the wrong key; it's actually G-F-C. Same chords as "Sister Ray". Of course.

This just occured to me (your sentence about autumn closing in)

HUSKER DU'S CELEBRATED SUMMER = HOLLYWOOD NIGHTS OF 80S PUNK!!!!

Then that backward-looking section at the end is just knife-twistingly real: it's clear that he has romantic feelings about the past, while at the same time acknowledging how unromantic the coupling was.

Because nostalgia often has little to do with the quality of the experiences, and a lot to do with our own shifts in feeling about ourselves. This is actually a pretty feckin wise point, and one that I don't think was ever made in song before "Night Moves."

I have similar love for "Main Street." Not "Hollywood Nights," though, for some reason. Too frenetic, with its fast tempo and hooting backup singers.

...which is basically an "it's tough to be a rockstar" song, I figured out years later. "Deadlines and commitments/What to leave in/What to leave out." I didn't understand that line at the time. Now I wonder how choosing a final track listing for an album is really worst than, "Makin' Thunderbirds" or the other Midwest labor jobs he sang about.

But too true about "Night Moves" and "nostalgia for an age yet to come" in so many Seger songs. And 1962 seemed like the distant past, when it was really only 15 years earlier. It would be like "hummin' a song from 1990" now.

'Fire Lake' isn't bad. (And 'Makin' Thunderbirds' on *the Distance*. though I haven't heard it in years, might well be better.) But either way, *Stranger in Town* is his last great album, not *Night Moves.*

We weren’t in love, oh no, far from it
We weren’t searchin’ for some pie in the sky summit
We were just young and restless and bored
Livin’ by the sword
And we’d steal away every chance we could
To the backroom, to the alley or the trusty woods
I used her, she used me
But neither one cared
We were gettin’ our share

The chorus still annoys me. I don't like the phrase "Night Moves" -- it just sounds dumb. But I think maybe I'm hitting the age when I start to really like mid 70s super-steady-beat medium-light rock.

this is pretty much adult life summed up in a line.

uh, quite the opposite actually. as one who fits that description .. it makes it easy to LOVE it. Because we already knew how great Bob's early stuff wuz. tho it is fun to laugh at Soofjam lovin pitchdorks who discover Bob's early stuff and make an about-face.

Hmm... the scenario I describe also applies to a lot of Motown--some of which I still love, and a lot of which I can't stand anymore--or to which I've become numb--due to overexposure. And some Seger just hasn't aged that well ("Old Time Rock & Roll" I avoid for fear I will go on a killing spree if it comes within earshot). Anyway, YMMV, etc.

Bob Seeger is the king of songs that I hear on the radio but don't know who they're by and think they're pretty good.

it was deeply resonant for me for the opposite reason -- it represented what i wished being a teenager was going to be like but which i knew it could never be, not for me anyway. it was kind of like reading the letters to penthouse.

that use of "one" always bothered me, and still does. it's a really awkward line.

i just think, you know, Seger was a real good craftsman -- wudn't no genius, his inspirations were fairly obvious. but the songs are great. And his vocals are great. and there are tons of great little moments throughout his catalog .. from "k-k-k-k-katmadu" to the high-hats on "Hollywood Nights". And "Travellin Man"/"Beautiful Loser" from the live album is such an awesome performance. I just hate all the fucking hedged-bets when people bring him up. There are many great songs.

but you know, this year Prog is Not a Four Letter Word, five years from now, Mellencamp is Not a Ten letter Word...

(Were there any great punk/'70s bands from Indiana? Detroit and Ohio had their share, and Chicago obviously had a scene, but I can't think of a damn thing from Indiana outside of John Cougar.)

http://www.pentaclerecords.net/covenstead/bob_seger_live_bullet.jpg

okay, so when we were all desperately hungover last week, my friends and i drove around listening to 'Night Moves' at full blast, and it kinda made me feel incredibly good.

but what is the song from 1962?

(i feel like i just became a little straighter by admitting that)

Wondered about that song from '62 for a long time, too

"autumn closing in" is a great romantic line.

I really like this song, but I also can't hear it without laughing at it.

yeah but it's that kind of laughter that is more laughing at the sentimentality because..well, it's kind of easy to identify with? it's like laughing at yourself for being a sentimental shit bag. i feel the same way when i hear Thunder Road, which i also know all the lyrics to.

anyway.

Who wants to wear those gypsy leathers????

(Were there any great punk/'70s bands from Indiana? Detroit and Ohio had their share, and Chicago obviously had a scene, but I can't think of a damn thing from Indiana outside of John Cougar.)

don't get me started...

No love for "Big River" aka "The Original Night Moves"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hekBAk5L7k4

this (along with more seger) is in permanent rotation in my father-in-law's truck

The drums on "Hollywood Nights" are great, as others said above. I like this song a lot, but lyrically I think it misses the payoff that the opening stanza sets up. "He knew right then he was too far from home". I expect Manson-style mayhem, or SLA. But no, I guess it's just that they fuck..."with a passion that kills", it's true, but what does that mean? The song still rocks and I'm just overthinking it, but fuck it, it's ILM, that's what it's here for.

I really like this song, but I also can't hear it without laughing at it.

True for a handful of Bob Seger songs.

He's a Midwestern boy who gets in way over his head; he winds up broke and alone and emotionally devastated and he's not sure he'll ever make it back to where he came from.

cocaine is a helluva drug

Yeah, that works; broke and lonely. I think the conceit could be milked a bit more, but it's cool; and a great song.

A friend of mine told me he was getting his tires changed or brakes fixed or something here in Ann Arbor, Michigan about 10 years ago, and there was a plaque on the wall in the waiting room. It said "The Drive-in that inspired Bob Seger's 'Night Moves' stood on this site."

Ah-the internet says it's the Tuffy Muffler on Stadium Boulevard, not but a half mile from the house I'm now living in. Maybe I should go in there and perform some kind of ritual.

Personally, I'm ok with the MOR Bob Seger,but young punk Bob Seger is amazing. "East Side Story", "Down Home", 2+2=?. All killer.

I heard this and "someone saved my life tonight" back-to-back on the classic station.
It was freakin awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=487t88pz-2Y

thanks to jsimp for reminding me what the one bob sega master system song i heard and enjoyed once on the radio was

Just heard this for the first time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp25PHbLPcU

...after years knowing Bob's cover. Awesome.

This song is like the perfect Van Morrison song and the perfect Bruce Springsteen song rolled into one.

Just realized there is a coded boob reference in an early verse. The bit about "points of her own".

Not really so coded!

Chicks used to throw their bras onstage when he sang that line. Probably still do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJuIv41o2DY

Chicks used to throw their bras onstage when he sang that line. Probably still do.

I mean, wouldn't you?

http://www.icplaces.com/image/ic_BobSegerandTheSilverBulletBandsongPics1TaBXvAsoX2BPVM.jpg

Night moves is so dope.

waited on the thunder iirc

This song is like the perfect Van Morrison song and the perfect Bruce Springsteen song rolled into one.

With the Simon-like opener "Little to tall, could-a used a few pounds."

too

…

… summertime

sweet summertime

he's adorable! he looks like a real person. why not pelt that guy with bras?

He could probably use one!

haha

night moobs

I didn't download that Never Mind The Bullets at the time, as I assumed it'd be around forever, and then megaupload went to jail and now I can't seem to find it without downloading some program that will turn my computer into a microwave oven. Is there a link somewhere that's safe to use?

Musician friend of mine from Stamps, Ark., once shared his Seger beef with me. A tune came on the radio and he shook his head and says, "Fuck Bob Seger, man. Every song is like 'I remember this' or 'I remember that.' Forget the past. I'm trying to push rock FORWARD."

Still makes me laugh.

I've got a soft spot for "Night Moves," maybe a few others. That simple, perfect acoustic riff is probably why Jesus invented the acoustic guitar.

Back in '72 is an album by American rock singer/songwriter Bob Seger, released in 1973 (see 1973 in music)

dlp9001, tyler posted a link to it recently:

http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/20241194822/never-mind-the-bullets-bob-seger-1966-1974-q

best way to experience this song is to randomly discover it like two weeks before you lose your virginity ime

walking to work today and a painter's (totally painted-over but still working) boombox was playing this

sweet

little too tall

I gave this a lot of thought a while ago and decided the 1962 song is "Baby It's You," however I will accept other suggestions.

"Our Day Will Come" would be good symmetry, but it's too innocent for what they were up to. It's Detroit, so maybe "You Really Got a Hold on Me."

I guess Seger says it was "Be My Baby" but that's from 1963. Maybe it's all lies. He's probably a virgin.

So I was close...ish

Was checking out the lyrics online and did a double take at the writing credit, attributed to Michael Franks. Uh, no.

"Night Moves" was released on 10/31/2006. It is track #4 on the album Greatest Hits. It was written by SMALL, MICHAEL / FRANKS, MICHAEL

and only off by a few decades

also I forgot to mention that I was bumping this thread to announce that years after the episode aired I figured out that Liz Lemon was referencing this in her "workin on my night cheese" song, not that it was obvious or anything.

I'm going to teach this next semester:

http://www.amazon.com/Night-Moves-Stephanie-Barber/dp/0988750309

it's a work of conceptual literature that consists of just the comments on the You Tube thread for Bob Seger's "Night Moves"

Does she know about Sad Youtube

Really enjoyed the book.

I know it's totally corny but I love the way he plays with the meaning of 'night moves', from teenage lovin/ putting on the moves, to time passing ie the night has moved on, to nature & things literally moving in the night with an oncoming storm

love this guy

also:

WAITIN ON THE THUNDAH

I guess it is strange how the night moves.

http://i.imgur.com/rlfCqGE.jpg

^^^funny, in fact

Night Moves would definitely not sound anything like it does if recorded now, considering how the tempo varies through the tune and how much modern recording is fixed to a click by hook, crook or edit. I've listened to the song and still can't decide if they cut the track as a whole or if the middle break down was tape edited in. The vocal performance is pretty seamless and sounds real natural, but it is possible that was overdubbed after getting together the bed track. It's a cool production and has quite a bit of space in the mix. I also really like the female backing vocals.

Just realized that Matt Hegelson may deserve some credit for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcZ5BwQukE

I've listened to the song and still can't decide if they cut the track as a whole or if the middle break down was tape edited in.

The local "oldies" station plays an edit of "Night Moves" that cuts out the whole midsection breakdown altogether. It's fucking annoying and stupid and awkward and I can't imagine anyone hearing that edited version being glad that that section is missing.

you know what I really love about this (though there are about 100 things) is how mellow the crash cymbal is. great production choice.

Night Moves would not be half as good if it didn't have the female backing vocals.

I read about that book on Slate... wonder if she omitted all the "i was born in the 90s but i think this is real music, not like the Justin Bieber crap kids are listening to today" comments or if all 5000 of them were left in.

Also, if at any point the song was on Family Guy...

http://greilmarcus.net/2014/09/30/bob-seger-silver-bullet-band-night-moves-1975

autumn closing in

Never knew about Muscle Shoals thing until this past weekend.

I LOVE NIGHT MOVES

lol

Night moves is so dope.

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:43 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The other day in the car I heard what I thought was going to be night moves but it turned out to be some bullshit and I was sad.

Not many Seger threads, but they're almost all from 2003/2004. What happened then? Anyway, from my accidentally ILE post:

I've never thought that much about Bob Seger, and never listened to anything of his on purpose (other than when it popped up on the radio), but I just saw him at Madison Square Garden and it was not bad! Totally corny, somewhere between Springsteen and Billy Joel, but he was having a blast for a 74-year old. Learned there were two songs by him that I never knew were by him ("Her Strut" and "We've Got Tonight"). Best of all I learned that his ridiculous ponytailed sax player, who never did much and rocked both sunglasses and a trench coat, actually goes by the name Alto Reed.

My step-mom won free tickets. Catch was that it was 150 miles away in Memphis.

ME: Looks like he's starting off all his shows with... "Simplicity"?

DAD: Huh. Kinda surprised that one's his opener.

ME: You know that song?

DAD: Never heard it. How does it go?

dad otm

Ha, I've actually heard it, and it sort of makes sense he'd open with it (heavy deep groove mid-tempo rocker from Face The Promise, Seger's idea of a Kid Rock song).

fine but have you heard it in a CVS

i thought bob seger had died when i saw both this thread and the one on ile bumped

XP Nope, but I have heard other things from Face The Promise in stores, pretty much all of which was when the album was new.

"Wait For Me" had retail soundscape legs for a few years.

xpost Yeah, I was worried people would think he died, sorry about that.

Does Bob Seger Choogle Y/N

I saw him at the Garden in 2007. He/it ruled.

droit au butt (Euler)
Posted: 30 September 2014 at 20:13:24
autumn closing in

Otm

Not many Seger threads, but they're almost all from 2003/2004. What happened then?

The White Stripes dropped Seven Nation Army

Quick story:

I've been thinking about Bob Seger this week and knew he was on tour because he was mentioned while I was walking my daughter to school by Diane -- a 70 y/o-ish lady from the Boston 'burbs who has smoked all her life and been our neighborhood school's crossing guard for 30 years. We've always had a really fun time jabbering with one another but she's never been above telling me to stay the hell out of the road when the light's green. Anyway, out of nowhere last week, she told me that she and her brother had seen Seger dozens of times over the years, but that this week he had gone to see him without her for the first time in years because "I can't go up all those stairs anymore." She was disappointed, but, she said, her brother sent her a video so she could see some of it anyway. We joshed around for a few and I think I made a "Turn the Page" joke or something before crossing the street.

On Wednesday, I noticed Diane wasn't there at pickup after school -- that wasn't super out of the ordinary so I didn't make too much of it. But I found out later that she had died the night before, I think from a heart attack, and didn't show up for work that morning. On the way to find some last-minute Halloween costumes, I broke the news to my 9 y/o. We were both pretty sad about it so in her honor we played a bunch of Seger hits -- Still the Same, Night Moves, Turn the Page, Old Time Rock n' Roll. Like Josh said, and a lot of us I imagine, these songs were all etched in my memory from classic rock radio as a kid but ... they hold up. They're tough, heartfelt and earnest but not corny. Kind of like Diane. RIP to a really cool lady.

Aw, RIP (though lots of Seger is absolutely corny).

Also, every time I hear the piano riff in the title track to Eno’s Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) I hear “Still the Same.”

^ YES.

Dad says, ahem, one of the highlights of the show was a cover of "Forever Young," featuring a slideshow of dead rock stars like Prince, Jimi, Janis, etc.

Full of snark, I asked, Oh, did he have Glenn Frey up there?

HOW DID YOU KNOW? LET ME TELL YOU WHAT HE SAID ABOUT GLEN FREY.... and then he told me.

Well, yeah.

I’ve always got time for Still the Same and Til it Shines. Not really much else though.

Working for the man on the nights every night and day

bob rules all the way through the 70’s up until the mid 80’s and then i peace out of his cataloh.

but overall i love him. i love that he’s still touring - am yet to see him live, really want to though! even if it’s a corn-fest of songs i dont particularly care for.

*catalog

The one Bob Seger song that I truly love without finding it at all corny (as opposed to the ones I love but also find corny) is Roll Me Away. I think the last verse is legit gorgeous, and I love that he takes the basic idea of a song that builds to a triumphant final line but then makes that line "Next time we'll get it right!"

Bob is pretty great but he didn’t write Willin’ or anything so

Gave Bill Payne a buncha session paydays tho.

Before he played "Night Moves" he said something like "let's move some nights!"

"Against the Wind" has a great line, like "I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then."

xpost to Veggie, this is his farewell tour! Maybe just one more date.

Before he played "Night Moves" he said something like "let's move some nights!"

Man, I know so little about this dude, but I was just brushing up and it's *fascinating.* He released *seven* now more or less out of print albums before releasing "Beautiful Loser," which was a big hit and which he and others kind of consider his "first" album. It's not until "Night Moves" in '76 that the Silver Bullet Band (one of the most iconic American rock band names) even gets billed on the sleeves. There are all his connections to the Eagles (through Glenn Frey of course, but both other Dons make appearances on his records), but there's also that long running association with the Muscle Shoals crew. And then there's "Live Bullet" in '76, which ... is that the first of the massive, ubiquitous '70s live albums as cultural touchstone best-ofs? One of them, for sure. Frampton's "Come Alive" came out early in '76, "Budokan" a couple of years later. Hmm. Oh, Kiss "Alive!" came out in '75, did anything big come before that?

Anyway, here's a guy steeped in frat-friendly soul music that presents as better than average butt rock, but he also had a way with a ballad (and had the good sense to cover Rodney Crowell's "Shame on the Moon" in 1983, which gave Crowell his first big crossover commercial breakthrough). I guess Seger was playing to huge crowds, tens of thousands of people, in and around Detroit for years before he broke out himself. A pal was telling me at the show that apparently one of his only big markets outside of Michigan was Boston, and that for Boston's J. Geils Band one of their biggest other markets was Detroit, and that they and Seger would kind of swap cities back and forth. I was just reading interviews about it with Peter Wolf, and came across this:

"The first time we played Detroit, it was the J. Geils Band, MC5, Iggy Pop and the Stooges and Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels,'' he said.

The year was 1970 or 1971, Wolf said. And the opening act?

Bob Seger.

Now there's a bill.

And then there's "Live Bullet" in '76, which ... is that the first of the massive, ubiquitous '70s live albums as cultural touchstone best-ofs? One of them, for sure. Frampton's "Come Alive" came out early in '76, "Budokan" a couple of years later. Hmm. Oh, Kiss "Alive!" came out in '75, did anything big come before that?

Grand Funk Railroad's Live Album was 1970. So was the Who's Live at Leeds.

Ya-Ya's was '70 as well. Though maybe not a touchstone, per se, (not much radio play). "Blow Your Face Out" by Geils was '76, which got massive play (in Detroit, at least.) Same with Humble Pie "Rockin' The Fillmore", which I think was a few years earlier. I still have never heard the studio version of "I Don't Need No Doctor."

I guess those days when different regions celebrated artists that were relatively unknown elsewhere are long gone. For Seger to play Cobo Arena in Detroit one night, then some small theater in Denver a few nights later (though "Get Out of Denver" assured that he had at least a small following there), that just doesn't happen anymore. If you're big here you're pretty much big there, and vice versa.

I dunno, does anyone care about Widespread Panic outside of the south?

in my experience everytime they tour, yes; there are hoards of awful jam band hippies in my town waiting to see them

Now there's a bill.

Here's another insane bill -- I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this was probably the only time Archie Shepp and Bob Seger shared a stage:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51SUiZ4IAjL.jpg

If you're big here you're pretty much big there, and vice versa.

I don't know - when LCD Soundsystem did that big concert at Madison Square Garden that they filmed, I remember thinking that New York was the only city in America where fucking LCD Soundsystem could fill an arena. Everyplace else, they were a club- to midsized-theater act.

That's a good question. I wonder how much of it was partly driven by (phony) Last Show Ever! hype? Iirc Murphy admitted that was a ruse meant to goose ticket sales. That same tour they instantly sold out the Aragon here, which is 5000, and immediately added a second club show at the Riviera (which was just another 2500), but I bet they could have played, say, three shows at the Aragon. It's not MSG, but it would have been arena-sized numbers, 15,000 tickets.

Someone like Springsteen, though, I wonder. I think at the end of the reunion tour he played, what, 10 nights in a row at MSG? That's pretty crazy. Didn't he do a run of NY stadiums and baseball parks a few years later?

Y’all need to get a copy of our very own Myonga Von Bontee’s “Never Mind The Bullets” fan compilation covering allllll the good stufff from 66-74

though having said that, idk where the best link is fir it these days - tyler’s d00m & gl00m used to be the place

anyway It’ll change yr life especially if you are lukewarm on bob

I know virtually nothing about the BS System but i’m thinking I’d prob dig it

it’s like if you were a casual Pink Floyd observer saying well I guess I like “Another Brick in the Wall” but that “Learning To Fly” song is but naff? They seem corny.

You gotta dig!! You gotta find Bob’s ‘Meddle’, his ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ or hear his “Careful With That Ax Eugene” for the first time.

Trust me. Pink Floyd RULES just as much as Bob Seger RULES.

Early Seger stuff has a shit-ton of buried treasure type tunes. Heavy Music. 2+2=?.

thanks for the rec VG

it's on slsk fwiw

Plus, Seger in his prime had an absolute switchblade voice, and you can really hear it on those early singles.

Grade A Prime Seger


https://youtu.be/IJFVKrhKb-U

xxpost yr welcome!! <3

I saw him at the Garden in 2007. He/it ruled.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson)

wow, are those bob's official new pronouns?

Still love that Seger released an album in January 1973 called Back in ‘72.

lol

I always wondered if Funkadelic did any shows with those early Detroit hard rock bands like Seger, MC5 or the Stooges.

(article idea for writers on board)...I also thought it would be a good idea if you could get Seger and George Clinton for an interview together, that could be interesting to get their feedback on Detroit in the late 60s and early 70s. Same interview would be great if you had Iggy or maybe someone like Wayne Kramer in there too.

Funkadelic def played w the MC5

Soldier Field 1970: https://theconcertdatabase.com/concerts/wcfls-big-10-summer-music-festival

As killer a lineup that might be, I'd imagine this engagement was a bit less interesting than the MC5s previous Chicago gig in '68.

One of the Funkadelic guys introduced the Stooges to heroin at a show they shared the bill on, and I bet that was it.

i saw starz/rush/bob seger at the palladium in my college days. lots of rush fans left before the headliner. their loss. he/it ruled!

https://theconcertdatabase.com/sites/theconcertdatabase.com/files/1977-03-17.jpg

i also saw that blondie/iggy show. geez those were consecutive nights.

idk, i think i have the tapes from the stooges and the mc5 at that show. wish the person who taped them had taped funkadelic as well...

Just saw an amped story about his last show of the tour/ever (in Philadelphia, BTW). It's mentioned that he hasn't ruled out a final tour overseas, something he hasn't done since 1980.

Setlist:

Simplicity
Still the Same
The Fire Down Below
Mainstreet
Old Time Rock & Roll
The Fire Inside
Shame on the Moon
Roll Me Away
Come to Poppa
Her Strut
Like a Rock
You'll Accomp'ny Me
We've Got Tonight
Travelin' Man
Beautiful Loser
Sunspot Baby
Turn the Page
Forever Young
Ramblin' Gamblin' Man

Encore
Against the Wind
Hollywood Nights

The Famous Final Scene
Night Moves
Rock and Roll Never Forgets

Looks like the setlist I got.

I think it's the same one for every show on the tour.

I'm sure. That always surprises me, since you'd think they'd want to shake it up a little, especially since his band was given not much of note to do. A couple of times Bob got to sit down and strum a barely-audible guitar, but he did play piano a little, and I thought it would have been nice if they just left him on stage for a couple of songs to play a deep cut or two. It really would have been sweet, given the context, if instead of a full-band "Night Moves" closing the set it was just Bob and the piano by himself.

He was doing "Busload of Faith" (a Lou cover from the last album) at earlier dates.

Of course, if you knock off "Simplicity" and the Dylan cover, the set is practically his greatest hits comps track-for-track.

I like how he does the same "Travelin' Man/Beautiful Loser" medley as on "Live Bullet". Talk about a pair of songs joined at the hip! Can't even begin to imagine how many times I heard that medley on the radio back in the day.

RIP Alto Reed :(

(from FB)

"It is with a heavy heart that we inform you of the passing of our lifelong friend and band mate, Alto Reed. Alto passed away this morning at his home with his family by his side after fighting a courageous battle with colon cancer.

Alto has been a part of our musical family, on and off stage, for nearly 50 years. I first starting playing with Alto in 1971. He was amazing – he could play just about anything…he was funky, could scat and play tenor sax and alto sax at the same time.

We worked with Alto often and when we booked our first headline arena gigs at Cobo Hall, we asked him to be a part of those shows. No doubt his iconic performance on Turn The Page helped lift us to another level. He has been with us on that stage virtually every show, ever since. And whether it was Turn The Page, Mainstreet, or Old Time Rock And Roll, audiences roared every time he played his part. In our band, Alto was the rock star.

Off stage, Alto had a passion for discovering and experiencing new things. He taught me how to sail on Biscayne Bay, we swam with the sharks (unintentionally!), and he often introduced us to local foods and restaurants he had discovered. I called him Captain. He was bolder than I was. I remember visiting him in the Miami area and I found him feeding the manatees in a lagoon behind his house. Most of us feed the seagulls, Alto fed the manatees!

Alto started a family and was a fabulous father. He helped raise two talented, beautiful, intelligent young ladies. Over the years, his passion for music, life and new adventures never diminished. We loved him like a brother and will miss forever."

- Bob Seger

Disappointed to learn that Alto Reed wasn't his real name.

lol same

I interviewed keyboardist Erik Deutsch once and when he told me he was married to one of Alto Reed's daughters, I demanded Bob Seger stories. (He didn't have anything really wild to share, just told me that yes, Bob Seger was at his wedding, and he was as awesome a guy as you would expect.)

Listening to Live Bullet on youtube today in memoriam. One of the records I sold pretty much as soon as punk hit, but I saw him around the time this was recorded and he was a rockin' great time. RIP Alto Reed.

I got a ton of nostalgia tied around the big 3 w/ Night Moves, Live Bullet and The Stranger. Where I grew up, Seger was the DUDE. I can remember being a kid that period in the late 70s early 80s and just knowing all those songs, they were just everywhere. At his peak, the Silver Bullet band could outsell live show tickets against anyone in Indianapolis, bigger even than Mellancamp at his peak. He sold out 3 nights at the Hoosier Dome on the Like a Rock tour to my memory, the Stones only did two. That's something like 160,000 tickets.

Live Bullet is awesome and that line on "Turn the Page" by Alto Reed is forever epic played day round on FM radio (RIP).

the tone on that Turn the Page line still gives me chills

I just watched a documentary on Muscle Shoals on Prime and fuck, does Mainstreet hit hard.

heh i have that doc in my watchlist but haven't checked it out yet. for the record, seger is an all-time balladeer.

Bob Seger’s Night Moves is an incredible song. It’s a Mid Western film noir RomCom in futile denial of the romance that it obviously ACHES for. Its proclaimed unsentimentality is ironically the source of its painful nostalgia. 10CC’s I’m Not In Love is its colder English Cousin.

— Vernon Reid (@vurnt22) April 17, 2022

He's not wrong.

otm

otm. inversely it helps explain why "summer of '69" is so cloying, at least to my ear

otm

I heard “Fire Down Below” for the first time in ages the other day. Had to crank it! Does it not get played much on classic rock radio anymore? This album rules, fuiud.

Have to admit it took me a long while for this guy to grow on me and I still don’t really like (not on this album) “Old Time Rock & Roll.”

Nostalgia for a web post yet to cOOOOOOOOooooooooommmmeee....

OTR&R is actually a great song imo, it’s just been beaten into Mustang Sally levels of tedium.

i dunno
it’s not that great compared to ~so much~ of his catalog prior to that

also my least favorite music subgenre is washed middleaged guys complaining about music

The worst thing that happened to OTR&R was Risky Business.

he had so many damn top 40 hits I don't know

“Old Time Rock ‘n’ Roll” is Seger’s 1980s “Ballad Of The Yellow Berets.” The tragic difference is that there was no 1980s “2+2=?”

Following up OTR&R by making "Fire Lake" the first single off your next album is a hell of a move.

At least it was "Old Time Rock & Roll" that got played to death, not the vastly superior "Rock & Roll Never Forgets."

Yes, that one is much better.

all the seger -- particularly betty lou's getting out tonight -- reminds me of good burgers at the landmark inn

it was an absolute dive owned by my classmate's dad and always shady as fuck. classmate, last i heard, was in prison -- but his younger brother was flying blimps over sporting events

anyway seger rules

my least favorite music subgenre is washed middleaged guys complaining about music

True, I need them to be filthy before they start their whining.

Mr. Seger if you're nasty

nostalgia often has little to do with the quality of the experiences, and a lot to do with our own shifts in feeling about ourselves. This is actually a pretty feckin wise point, and one that I don't think was ever made in song before "Night Moves."

I'd say this is the point of "People Take Pictures of Each Other" by the Kinks, written eight years earlier.

...and "Picture Book".

The worst thing that happened to OTR&R was Risky Business.

― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 April 2022 00:23 (three hours ago) link

idk, if you've ever seen the Stone Mountain laser show...

Woikin on a night move

Hardly renowned

Started hummin a song from nineteen sixty-two

It happens

Trusty woods

order of preference:

1. back room
2. trusty woods
3. alley

way up firm and high

1. young
2 restless
3 bored
4 livin by the sword

Pie-in-the-sky summit? Far from it.

i thought it was sonnet?

Woke last night to the sound of thunder

one of the few songs I know that make me swear I can smell the beer-soaked wood of a dive bar when I hear it (meant as a high compliment)

otm!

I was recently thinking about this song, in conjunction with Eddie Money's "Take Me Home Tonight", and how they both implicitly refer to "Be My Baby"; and about the phenomenon of songs that are kinda low-key referencing an earlier song without mentioning it - as opposed to songs that are *musically" straight-up borrowing from an earlier work, the way the Beach Boys ("Don't Worry Baby") or the Beatles ("What You're Doing" offered their own "Be My Baby" homages.

(And of course the Ronettes' song was in fact from *1963*, shame on you, Bob!)

About 25 or so years ago, when I was living somewhere else, one night we kept hearing the downstairs neighbor playing "Night Moves" on repeat. At some point we realized his back door was wide open, too, and the apartment was dark, so after some discussion with the other neighbors we called the police. They found him passed out with a bong, Seger still on repeat.

^^Alternate opening to You're Next

There is a tagger in the south side of my town putting up “trusty woods” and it gives me so much joy

One of my all time fave songs. JiC's neighbor - legend.

this thread gives me so much joy.

Never realized Josh at one time was neighbors with Matthew McCaughnahey.