Bruce Springsteen NEBRASKA

Around 1986, there was a Springsteen tribute called "Cover Me." I wonder if anyone there covered Nebraska songs?

"Atlantic City" is a fine, fine song. I've come close to covering it live myself, but then thought the better of it.

And yes, the Cowboy Junkies "State Trooper" is good. I thought there was a Mary Lou Lord cover of something on Nebraska but I may be misremembering.

factoid: nebraska is the easiest-to-play guitar album in rock history.

kingsmen, hah! the history of rock is full of amateur guitarists who clearly had no idea how to play the minor-fifth that defines them. therefore, i declare, they are not easy to play! as for the urinals and rhys chatham, your theory that fcc has never heard them is correct.

hell yeah. on nebraska he plays things really simply but also really effectively. on darkness on the edge of town he lets rip some of my favorite gtr solos ever. he's a really melodic, smart player who obviously thinks about his parts and his tone a LOT. in fact, the guitar's about the only thing that sounds good on a lot of his records, which were never recorded all that great. the guitar and his voice, actually. he's good at recording himself!

i never understood why he always insisted on touring with at least one extra, and sometimes two extra, hot-shot lead guitarists. but funnily enough, even with nils lofgren and steve van zandt onstage with him, he still takes a lot of the solos himself.

Fucking beautiful.

Nebraska, arranged and performed by... Mark Ribot, Vernon Reid, Gary Lucas, The National, Meshell Ndegeocello, Michelle Shocked, Kevin Kinney, Mark Eitzel, Laura Cantrell, Jesse Harris, Martha Wainwright, Chocolate Genius, Dan Zanes, Lenny Kaye, and Harry Manx

!!!

I just did a couple of shows with a guy who covered "State Trooper". It was a blast, because we ended up Kraut-rocking it and extracting some Neil Young from it.

Also covered that Suicide song "Dream Baby Dream" that Bruce used to cover. Bruce is a deadly songwriter.

he covered it this year!

If you like Nebraska go straight to Ghost of Tom Joad. It's not quite as stark, but it's very similar in spirit. Some nice Tex-Mex touches to take you out of the gloom.
Darkness On The Edge of Town is his toughest rock album. Although the production is a little tinny compared to the throbbing rock beasts you get on the 5LP live boxset. That set also has the finest versions of Darkness, Adam Raised A Kain (where Bruce and Steve shred it up) and a beautiful, elegiac Racing In The Street. It also begins with the loveliest piano and glockenspiel version of Thunder Road.

"then i realized that all of springsteen's good (or great) albums have the same qualities, they're just not as hipster-friendly."
OTM: try The River, Stolen Car and Wreck On The Highway from The River

Out of the hundreds of books about The Boss out there, is there any that goes into detail about Nebraska, specifically the recording process? I heard there's some stuff in the Dave Marsh book about it...can anyone confirm or deny before I Add To Cart a used copy?

Marsh's Glory Days has about 40 pages detailing the recording of Nebraska. I'm by no means a Springsteen nut but I found the sheer amount of day-to-day detail, including a step-by-step explanation of how Springsteen's political views evolved, in this book fascinating. Used copies are pretty cheap I think.

Thanks Dorian. Sold!

Wonder if there will be a box of this, along the lines of Darkness/Born to Run.

Not sure where you'd get the demos from - for an album of demos ...

Although it would be interesting to see a companion album of E Street Band live versions of the Nebraska songs, cos most (all?) have been performed live in full band shows, haven't they?

There are loads of Nebraska Demos, or at least out-takes.

easily available from the internet.

would be easy to officially bundle them up.

The Nebraska story reminds me of one of the funniest motifs of the Darkness doc - Springsteen off on a dark, Steinbeckian tip and Van Zandt frowning because he just wants to play the big toons.

I lovelovelove the Nebraska demo of Born in the USA, with its Frankie Teardrop/State Trooper vibe. It sounds so violently lonely.

nebraska demos that ended up on the album really aren't very far removed from the album itself, iirc. cool to hear, but nothing really radically different? maybe my memory is off - i've got that "alone in colt's neck" bootleg.

From a technical standpoint, it's kind of a fascinating story: 3 days to record, five weeks to master.

Although it would be interesting to see a companion album of E Street Band live versions of the Nebraska songs, cos most (all?) have been performed live in full band shows, haven't they?

There are also full-band studio versions. The band tried recording versions of the Nebraska material before it was decided to release the cassette as-is. All accounts are that, while technically well-performed, the full-band versions missed what was special about the cassette (as did the attempts to have Bruce re-record the material acoustically in a studio).

This page has the info:

http://www.brucebase.org.uk/9.htm

17 songs recorded during this time on this equipment-- 10 on the album, two released elsewhere, four circulating on boots, one never made it out there. Different recordings of the songs exist.

As usual, he picked the right songs for the LP.

has anyone ever covered these tunes?

I rate both the Steve Earle & Cowboy Junkies' versions of 'State Trooper' over the original, which is saying a lot b/c I fucking LOVE the OG Springsteen version.

Here's the Earle joint. No CJ YT of reasonable quality to be found :-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91M_FrhecbE

there's a largely dreadful indiepop tribute to the boss called Play Some Pool - Skip Some School - Act Real Cool which has a couple of covers of tracks from Nebraska. this is no recommendation btw

Now this is before Steve became the "Alt- country" guru... his audience were older redneck-types that came to hear "Guitar Town" and instead got a stoned, long-haired fatso preaching about forgiveness. He even smoked a joint onstage; pretty cool.

― Andy, Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:00 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark

this is one of my favorite things on ilx and i reread it every time this gets revived

steve earle "state troopers" is astounding, though more for his performance than the band's. intro and 1st verse, when it's just voice and guitar, had me riveted. watched that bit like three times before letting the rest of the song play out cuz i wanted it to last and knew it wouldn't. when the whole band comes in, some of the personality inevitably drains away as what they're doing is much less distinctive, but i like how he feeds on the dynamic shifts. atmospheric lead playing is interesting, but i really wanted the band to go full out and crush at the end. not their style, i guess. probably sounds like i'm damning with faint praise, but i really did like it. not more than springsteen's version, though.

^ nicely stated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cg0-brnMuM

Can't remember if I heard it on a live bootleg (nothing on YouTube), but Cowboy Junkies have an almost completely a cappella and terrific cover of "My Father's House" (as well as that "State Trooper").

steve earle "state troopers" is astounding, though more for his performance than the band's - either the lead guitarist is having a terrible time keeping his guitar in tune in that video, or he is actively altering the tuning up and down & here and there, even in middle of his solo. I that was p impressive at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keegrqHpIos

Can't remember if I heard it on a live bootleg (nothing on YouTube), but Cowboy Junkies have an almost completely a cappella and terrific cover of "My Father's House"

It's a hidden track at the end of their Rarities, B-Sides and Slow, Sad Waltzes comp. And yes, it's great.

xpost Fair enough. Not a Bruceologist and didn't realise there were so many other demos left over from three days of recording. Love it when the E Street Band do Reason to Believe live.

I really wanna know what's going on with that lead guitarist during the solo on that Steve Earle clip. Why is he messing with tuning pegs? Any guitarists have any theory beyond "he's tuning?"

He seems to be using the tuning pegs like a whammy bar. Weird, but you can hear the effect of the pitch shift pretty clearly near the end of the song.

that's awesome.

i went to the nebraska tribute concert in NYC several years back (also wrote about it, fwiw). was mostly unremarkable, but michelle shocked's version of the title track was actually pretty good, and laura cantrell's "used cars" was great. my favorite bit tho was gary lucas doing a long, noisy guitar improv over a loop of the "state trooper" riff.

As for covering these tunes, the best would be if Springsteen covered them himself, along with a beefed up E-Street Band.

ha, i see already wrote about the festival at the last revive. should really back-read in threads.

dunno, i feel like the full band version i've heard of "atlantic city" was kinda dire. wasn't e street though, i think? his early 90s band, whoever that was.

Johnny Cash covered "Highway Patrolman."

oh never mind

dunno, i feel like the full band version i've heard of "atlantic city" was kinda dire. wasn't e street though, i think? his early 90s band, whoever that was.

He played it a lot on the BITUSA tour, with a full band arrangement. I coulda sworn it was on Live 1975-85, but it's not (it is on Live in NYC and MTV Plugged, neither of which I've heard).

yeah i think i've heard the Plugged version -- I'm sure a full band arrangement *could* be good, but that one was lacking I thought. been ages since i've heard it, so i might change my mind, who knows.

The full-band versions of "Atlantic City" that I'm familiar with amplify the bad features of the song, making it a plodding, slamming bore. I dunno, it's probably my second-to-least favorite song on the album ("Used Cars" is the least necessary).

older redneck-types that came to hear "Guitar Town"

i'm not sure that was ever steve earle's audience. he was basically an "amerindie" guy from the start.

It's a hidden track at the end of their Rarities, B-Sides and Slow, Sad Waltzes comp. And yes, it's great.

Thanks! It completely comes back to me now, sound-check sounds and all.

There's also The (full) Band "Atlantic City":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCBeoChZig0

Every dud or almost-there-but-something's-off Springsteen cover I've heard screws up phrasing somewhere, or at least doesn't flow as comfortably as Springsteen's vocals do. His songs sound awkward in so many others' mouths.

The Sub Pop Nebraska tribute is full of these kinds of vocals. That Ani DiFranco "Used Cars" (posted above), except for the CB-radio vocal filter, and Johnny Cash doing "I'm On Fire" are the best of that lot. Son Volt does the novel thing of slowing down "Open All Night" but they fuck up the lyrics, as if their studio time ran out.

I never understood why Damien Jurado did 'Wages of Sin' for that - not even a Nebraska outtake, is it? I love Jurado, but that came off as so self consciously nerdy - "I'll cover something from Tracks, I will..."

There have been some fine covers of songs from this album, but it's sort of uncoverable for the same reason that Springsteen had such a hard time with it and ultimately just decided to release the demos. Capturing lightning in a bottle and all that stuff.

As for covering these tunes, the best would be if Springsteen covered them himself,

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I'm listening to this album for the first time. It's great!

it totally is

Like crüt, I listened to this for the first time today, walking home through the woods under a dark and heavy sky. it was a hell of an experience.

This album *is* great! It's kinda weird how it's this lost gem, relatively speaking. The River sold 5 million copies before it, and Born in the USA sold 15 million after, but this one came nowhere near. obvious why, of course, but it's a shame, because it's one of Springsteen's finest.

This was always my dad's favourite Boss album too.

Taught my French 2 students how to play MASH because we're learning the Future Simple, and designed it so they had to use different verbs - to be, to have, to live, etc. Asked them to share out their predictions, and the first one I got was, "On habitera dans une maison en Nebraska, on sera chômeurs, et on aura de la dette. (We will live in a house in Nebraska, we will be unemployed, and we will have debt.)

I'm about halfway through the Zanes book, and boy, is it good. I had heard somewhere (here?) that it's just more of the same, that Bruce is on autopilot in his interviews, but I dunno. Zanes gets at a lot of stuff on the album and in the songs that I've never really thought about before, and he gets from Springsteen answers that show just how much *Bruce* has thought about it. There's something so intimate about it, too, the way Zanes gets access to Bruce that seems more than just a standard interview. Bruce seems to understand the album's power and importance, so leans in, as if he, too, despite having thought about this album for so many years, is hoping to get some answers of his own.

The ending of Young’s acoustic “out of the blue” with the reverb on the harmonica sounds a lot like it influenced Brooce

Rumors floating of a Nebraska ‘82 Expanded Edition, but I'm a bit skeptical - he just did a Rolling Stone interview where he claimed he didn't recall an electric version of the album and had to confirm it later in a text when he checked and found it in his archives (though they didn't get to record all ten songs that way).

Supposedly an October 17 street date with the following:

CD1-Nebraska Remastered
CD2-Nebraska Outtakes
CD3-Electric Nebraska
Bluray-Red Bank Theatre album performance

(what sparked the rumor)

Should've done a screen grab, but the listing originally in that link was taken down. It was basically a listing credited to Sony for a multi-disc Nebraska set. I guess it makes sense as a tie-in with the upcoming movie, which opens around then.

Apparently the None But the Brave podcast says this will be the big fall release.

looks like the rumored details were 100% correct. bravo internet sleuths

to coincide with the movie, i presume

(which is about the recording of Nebraska)

anachronistic, I realize, but the electric Nebraska version of Born in the USA sounds like Bon Jovi

Based on the trailer, the film looks like a disgrace.

Are any of these musical biopics of big stars ever much more than moderately successful as movies?

What? Have you seen the grosses for Ray, Bohemian Rhapsody, Rocket Man, A Complete Unknown, etc.?

Successful as *movies*, not successful as product.

what does that mean

Like, clearly they are financially successful, that's why they keep making them. It's also why they all feel like the same movie, they might as well be Marvel movies.

xpost I meant they're generally just not that good, just good enough but boilerplate. I don't remember hating Ray, but I also doubt I will ever see it again for the rest of my life.

Coal Miner’s Daughter was pretty good.

There are exceptions, for sure. I didn't like "Velvet Goldmine," but "I'm Not There" was pretty novel. "Thirty Two Short Films About Glenn Gould" was different. Even "Amadeus," it kind of set the standard for Oscar-bait musical biopic, but if someone told me there was a Mozart biopic, I'm not sure I would have expected that movie.

Control is screening near me next week and I was thinking of rewatching it. Though that one, as I remember it, fit the template of "and here's the moment when the magic happened and the Joy Division record we all know and love was made."

I watched Bohemian Rhapsody on a plane (low expectations) and enjoyed how it felt like the movie equivalent of reading a long Wikipedia entry.

ok, yeah. i get it. i thought the Dylan movie was fine. went in with low expectations. but i have pretty low expectations for all of these kinds of movies. Amadeus strikes me as an exception because I'd guess for the average person doesn't know much about his bio. . . where with Dylan and Springsteen we do and they're still alive etc

Yeah, maybe the key to telling these stories is less about "what" and more about 'how." As in, how they tell the story. Otherwise, there are plenty of documentaries.

24 Hours Party People was a fun musical biopic variant.

yep agreed--it's all in the presentation. i believe the Dylan bio in the trailer had a scene where he was writing A Hard Rain's Gonna on a napkin and the napkin had coffee stains etc. Kinda cheesy rote and cliche but I don't think it made it into the actual movie.

Bohemian Rhapsody is the sorriest of the bunch. Its ahistoricity matters less than how editing choices frame Mercury's sexuality.

Happy birthday to Freddie Mercury btw.

The What Went Wrong podcast recently had an episode on the Bohemian Rhapsody movie and what a shit-show it was.

My hangup on these movies is when I am really familiar with the subject, I know I’m going to pick it apart like an asshole. I am so deep down familiar with Dylan that I cannot get past Timothy Chalamet pretending to be Dylan, so I don’t bother.

I love Nebraska and this facet of Springsteen, I can’t imagine the movie will be able to build on top of that. Springsteen’s self-mythology bugs me in general.

I am so deep down familiar with Dylan that I cannot get past Timothy Chalamet pretending to be Dylan, so I don’t bother.

was worried about this too, but there was enough of an offset to what TC did, that I didn't get hung up on how well he was doing Dylan.

I'm Not There is one of my favorite films of the century thus far.

Are any of these musical biopics of big stars ever much more than moderately successful as movies?

Mostly no because Ray set the boring paint-by-numbers template most of them follow. I'm Not There is the only American one from the last 20 years that I really like.

But it doesn't have to be this way. The glut of boring films gave biographical films a bad name (even literally in the shorthand "biopic") but there's no shortage of great films that are technically biographical films. The Passion of Joan of Arc, Ivan the Terrible Parts I & II, My Darling Clementine, Lola Montès, The Long Gray Line, The Wrong Man, arguably Anatomy of a Murder, Lawrence of Arabia, Andrei Rublev, The Wild Child, Raging Bull, GoodFellas, An Angel at My Table...the list goes on and on, but I bet many of these don't come to mind to most people when they think "biopic" even when they've seen them and realize they're about real-life people.

Well, there's "based on a true story" films, and then there's the kind of more standard biopic/birth-to-deather, which is a very know it when you see it template. Esp. this most recent glut of jukebox biopics.

Springsteen claimed this was an "anti-biopic" because it focuses only a couple of years of his life (with maybe a few flashbacks) but that's not an uncommon structure for a biopic either, there's quite a few that follow that. (I caught a little bit of Cobb not too long ago and that was a much-hyped but disappointing film from 1994 - it's mostly a few days with Ty Cobb.)

Anyway, maybe that's part of the problem with biopics being so dull - if someone's so boxed in as to believe a biopic has to follow such strict confines (it's got to be birth/beginning-to-death), it's no wonder too many of them are paint-by-numbers filmmaking and storytelling.

Part of the problem of musician biopic is that it’s a performance of a performance. Nobody is comparing the Goodfellas mobsters with the real guys. Music is so wrapped up with authenticity; it’s a tricky needle to thread. Maybe it works for Dylan because there’s so many layers of artifice already?

Also, how many of these stories are genuinely fascinating? A lot of what happens to musicians is boring as hell to watch. There’s a reason why these movies feel formulaic.

Competing with someone so familiar to popular culture is definitely a big obstacle. Todd Haynes's film doesn't have that problem by design, but how does Joaquin Phoenix compete with Johnny Cash (his singing there always sounded more like Jim Morrison to me)?

Also, how many of these stories are genuinely fascinating? A lot of what happens to musicians is boring as hell to watch.

Miles Ahead avoided this by pushing the limits of what a character based on Miles Davis can do, immediately lets you know that biographical accuracy is not a concern and appropriates his likeness as a comic book antihero. it’s not the best movie i’ve ever seen but it’s never dull.

Someone should make a Springsteen biopic like that, a Sylvester Stallone action drama or something that’s really, really fake.

a performance of a performance

That was my problem with much of the praise for Timothee's performance. "He looks just like Bob Dylan! He sounds just like Bob Dylan!" Well, yeah. We have thousands of hours of Bob Dylan performing, being interviewed, being photographed. We know what he looks like, we know what he sounds like, we know the course of history. What choices did he even have to make to play Bob Dylan? All the choices were made for him, he just had to hit his marks. Compared to "I'm Not There," which was ingenious any way you sliced it, or, I dunno, "Secret Honor," where Philip Baker Hall isn't an exact match for Nixon. Or hell, Dan Aykroyd as Nixon ... with a mustache!!!! Or Hulce in "Amadeus," since literally no one really knows what he looked or sounded like. I didn't see the Robbie Williams monkey movie, but, well, good for them for trying something different.

I would watch a Vanilla Ice biopic that takes place entirely within the universe of TMNT 2

Musician biopics are just a notch above Marvel movies for me in that, despite the fact that I like to think I'll see almost anything in a theater because I enjoy the experience of being there, I will actively avoid seeing them if at all possible. I was visiting my family recently and they all wanted to see the Dylan movie, but despite being the biggest actual Dylan fan in my family by some distance, I opted to accompany my 8-year-old niece to see Moana 2 instead. No regrets, coyote

Amazon's currently offering the basic CD+Blu box set for $37.14 (pre-order).

Thanks for the tip!

Indeed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PtSo87mXGE

He sounds pretty good!

Review from Richard Brody, and I'm sorry to say it's also the best and most insightful one I've seen about this film because it points out in unflinching detail everything missing from it, all of which is crucial to what the album's about.

that's a good review. for what it's worth, the minimizing of the album's politics is faithful to zanes' book, which buys into the idea of nebraska being an album about his childhood almost to the exclusion of anything else it might have been about.

the other thing missing from the movie for me is the e street band. obviously, it's a movie about an album he made without them. but even within that framework, the film is largely dismissive of their role in his life. there's a scene of him and landau on the street outside the power station, where he's about to record the nebraska songs w/the band, and he asks landau if the band is here yet, as if they're just a bunch of session guys landau hired for a recording date. it's a brief moment, a throwaway line, but the tone is way off, and it's emblematic of the tone of much of the movie.

it's also weird that the live w/band scenes meant to show how much bruce still yearns for rock and roll and community take place at the (actual) stone pony with a version of cats on a smooth surface that look and sound nothing like the actual cats on a smooth surface. they don't look or sound like asbury park circa 1980 at all.

during the first stone pony scene he meets the love interest the movie invents for him, which is an entirely different level of wtf (but which does allow for the hilariously bad sex scene brody describes in his review).

speaking of the band, what strikes me listening to electric nebraska for the first time is how little he uses them even there. it's pretty much guitar bass drums all the way through. i noticed roy on exactly one song, and danny and clarence on none.

i like the nebraska outtakes he recorded alone a lot more.

I haven't heard the electric version, but to be fair, the attempts were abandoned *because* he didn't think it was working, so I suppose it makes sense that the released versions would disappoint.

yes. the one thing the original tracks box set taught me was that springsteen has a really good ear for what does and doesn't work in his own music.

Seriously, anyone that couldn't find a place for "Because the Night" (among other songs) is absolutely ruthless.

writer Will Hermes noted in his substack this Youtube Nebraska rabbit hole

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL56kf2P_2D2wfrhVNVTAus705q8bJOKb-

Hermes also asserts-

And a funny thing happened in its wake — a generation of musicians, weaned on punk, and looking to transplant the beating bloody heart of a song onto magnetic tape, did so using the DIY bedroom recording template of Nebraska. As a fan of raw songwriting and lo-fi dreamspaces, I see a smeared line from Nebraska to the Replacements’ Let It Be and Elliott Smith’s Roman Candle, to records by Billy Bragg and Robyn Hitchcock, Beat Happening and Galaxie 500, Lucinda Williams and Cowboy Junkies, the Pogues, the Meat Puppets, Tracy Chapman, even De La Soul and the Beastie Boys.

Hermes also mentions something that seems even more a bit exaggerated to me -

The National's Matt Berninger, who makes a connection of his own in Warren Zanes’ book Deliver Me From Nowhere: The Making of Bruce Springsteen’s Nebraska

Berninger wasn’t the only one who took it that way. However different in scale and effect, Nebraska did for some what the Beatles’ appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show in 1964 did for so many at that time. It said, “You can do this.” “I think Nebraska set so many bands on their way,” Berninger insisted. “Every band that went after a lo-fi, DIY kind of thing. Pavement, Silver Jews, Guided by Voices, all the early indie stuff. I think Nebraska was the big bang of the indie rock that was about making shit alone in your bedroom. It’s like when Justin Vernon made For Emma, Forever Ago. I’m sure he was trying to make his version of Nebraska when he did that. And he did. Justin Vernon’s record changed the landscape. That project is a child of Nebraska.”

1982: The Year Post-Punk Broke

Bruce invented Soundcloud rap.

Damn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuC9rSEU-M0

xps I think this is another case of an album really being one link in a chain of a continuing and evolving idea. I don't doubt some great lo-fi recordings were directly inspired by Nebraska, but it's not for nothing that Springsteen constantly thought of the past when he recorded it - he didn't just emulate the sound of Sun Records and beyond, he arguably replicated a setup that wasn't unheard of in the earlier days of popular music. Robert Johnson recorded like half of his work in a hotel room where it was basically the room, a microphone, the recorder and not much else (though tbf, I think they ran the recorder into an adjacent room just so they wouldn't be occupying the same place). But sometimes you need someone to revisit the past to prove that what worked then can still be equally effective now and shouldn't be left behind altogether.

Funny how to my ears the electric versions sound more tentative and demo-y than the released versions.

i believe that's also how it sounded to bruce's ears :)

sometimes you need someone to revisit the past to prove that what worked then can still be equally effective now and shouldn't be left behind altogether

good post

xp yeah, you can really hear the sense of discomfort with trying to get into that Nebraska headspace in front of other people

Oh gosh I actually quite liked this movie despite my general antipathy towards artist biopics…but I am not super invested in Bruce and was expecting it to be way awful.

I’m super interested in Bruce and Jon’s relationship. It’s so interesting to me, seems like a really authentic respect and love thing that is pretty uniquely non-toxic when it comes to performer/manager relationships?

Can’t believe they made up the romance stuff loooool

For some reason “where’s the case for this” cracked me up.

Appreciate that the story swirled around mental illness and didn’t avoid calling it out as depression, idk resonated with me kinda

My wife is a Springsteen fanatic and thought it was pretty weak

So many thoughts about the '82 collection I don't know where to start. I'm finding the live performance oddly fascinating and moving; I wondered at first why Bruce felt the need to re-perform Nebraska as part of this collection, but hearing it, there's an emotional logic to it. You hear Electric Nebraska first, where he's trying to share these songs with the band and it's not quite working, and you get the sense that Springsteen has dug something up from the depths of his psyche that needs to live at those depths and those pressures and can't survive the trip to the surface. And then you hear the live performance, and it absolutely does work, and you realize that Springsteen, even now, decades later, can still step into that world of Nebraska at any moment, provided he does it alone. You really get the sense of what a solitary world Nebraska is, and how much it dictates the terms of how you can engage with it.

That said, I haven't finished listening to the live performance yet; I had to stop after "Mansion on the Hill," which I found particularly moving because the age in Springsteen's voice becomes the age of the narrator, and it really hits home that this man has lived out his entire life in the shadow of the mansion. (It reminds me of the Ursula Guin short story "The Poacher" if anyone has read that?)

Really interesting, too, to see the link between the Nebraska outtakes, the Electric Nebraska stuff and Born in the USA - there are all these gaps being filled in.

Like, the two iterations of Downbound Train are fascinating; I had no idea this was the one BitUSA track that started out up-tempo and got slower as he revised it. You can see him looking for something and not quite finding it yet. It’s so astonishing to hear the yelping desperation of the Nebraska demo, and then the repetitive punk shouting of the Electric Nebraska version, and remember that this will turn into the first really quiet, dreamy, floaty moment on Born in the USA, the moment when the drums finally drop out and the synths carry us away.

I already knew Child Bride, but I hadn’t listened to it in a few years and had almost forgotten how good it is. I had forgotten the line, “They said she was too young / she was no younger than I been / when she put her arms around me / and the night closed in” and the way Springsteen’s voice wavers into silence on the last word, and so it hit me all over again. That one line is so good, so concisely and efficiently chilling, that I wondered if he borrowed it from somewhere. Not because I think he couldn’t have written it, but because it feels like a classic, like something that must already have existed.

And then the first version of Workin’ on the Highway is another missing link, because you can see that the central operating framework of Born in the USA - the idea that you can take the darkest stories you can think of and package them as cheerful arena rock anthems - isn’t in place yet at all. Having decided to rewrite Child Bride as a workin’ man’s rock song, he approaches it by taking out the whole grooming-and-kidnapping part of the story and replacing it with a generic, and presumably legal, love story. And it’s cool to hear this, and all the versions of "Born in the USA," and realize that there’s a major step in Springsteen’s artistic development still to come.

Because one of the most disturbing things in Child Bride is that the narrator doesn’t really seem to get that he’s committed a crime. He knows he was arrested and is in prison, and that he won’t get the girl back, and he seems to accept all that, and yet there’s this weird disconnect in the way he tells the story, like this is all just something that happened to him, not the result of anything he did. It’s brilliantly done, and I think Springsteen could absolutely have released Child Bride as it was. But turning it into Workin’ on the Highway is brilliant too, because in the final version the fun times workin’ man anthem quality of the song is what creates that disconnect, that sense that the narrator doesn’t fully get the story he’s telling us, even as he’s giving us all the details accurately. And that's what makes the dark anthems on BitUSA so good - that the anthemic quality is part of the story, that you can write a song about being alone in your room that sounds like you’re fizzing with restless energy and about to burst out of your own skin, that a song about how your country has failed to live up to its promises is at its most powerful when it sounds like the patriotic song you wish it could be.

typo in my post upthread - I meant Ursula Le Guin, of course

Yes great observations about the evolution of those songs. Honestly the most interesting thing about the outtakes to me is that imo all of the songs are better in their released versions — whether on Nebraska or BitUSA — and the iterations along the way are a good workshop in songwriting. Finding the idea, playing with it, knocking it around, working out what the song is trying to be or say.

I find the backstories -- the songwriting, the recordings, the reactions from E Streeters -- so fascinating that I wished I enjoyed Nebraska more.

Have they monkeyed with the demos to fake-up a 'new' electric session or are these just cleaned up versions of genuine old recordings they found?

xpost for me nebraska was not in the lofi lineage which was 70s bootlegs and weird 80s cassettes; nebraska is a plastic ono band, side one of rust never sleeps, that kind of big rocker stripping things wayyy down. i’m sure there are more.

by far my favorite bruce and plastic ono and rust are my favorites by those artists, i should think harder about this putative class

I think what's key is that "Nebraska" is not strictly some unplugged session, however unvarnished, it was literally a bunch of demos that they spent a bunch of time desperately trying to clean up. Like, those 70s bootlegs and weird 80s cassettes and whatnot are lo-fi by nature, unprofessional/amateur recordings, worn down by several generations of fan trading. But "Nebraska," it's lo-fi by design, not a lo-fi version of something meant to sound better/cleaner. Which Springsteen was smart enough to recognize and/or get released while he could, which is a pretty radical artistic statement.

I think people sometimes get jumbled up about the difference between professional 4-track recording and home recording on one of these little TEAC or whatever boxes. Yes, most of the Beatles stuff was recorded to 4-track machines, but they were far from lo-fi. Or "Rust Never Sleeps," a lot of that was taken from live recordings, but professionally so, and then heavily overdubbed in the studio. I'm trying to think of a proper lo-fi precursor to "Nebraska" ...

The thing that struck me in the film (not sure how accurate) was how running the cassette through a the studio console created all this distortion that wasn’t there when they listened on the boombox, like the problem wasn’t that it sounded thin and demo-y as much as unlistenably distorted.

kind of like the pixelization when making a low res image file really big or something

I think that's a pretty evocative comparison!

That part is puzzling to me, there's no reason that a cassette machine correctly plugged into two channels of a mixing console (with the input levels set correctly, of course) would distort, the only major difference would be that the studio monitors might have emphasised the flaws/weaknesses that the boombox speakers did not.

Yeah, same, I had never heard of such a thing

I'm trying to think of a proper lo-fi precursor to "Nebraska"

Basement Tapes

...particularly the original, unoverdubbed copies that circulated before the official release.

Well, yeah, but again, that wasn't meant for release and circulated as bootlegs. And even then, they had multiple mics set up, a mixing board, possibly a reel to reel ...

I don't consider Nebraska lo-fi at all

people make a big deal that he used 2 Shure 57s but those have been on so many records, pretty much every single live show you've ever seen. Bono uses a Shure 58 on U2 albums which is basically the same mic as the 57 except it's a round top for vox instead of the flat head of the 47 (I think there may be some slight eq difference too but same capsule as far as I remember)

yeah I never got the lo fi claims, this isn't Robert Johnson in 1938 doing everything in one take with one mono mic at all

just nitpicking realy, it’s definitely low-tech

What it is is spooky. The technical combinations are interesting, but the effect is greater than their sum. It has such a particular American noir vibe. I assume that's what Springsteen heard on it, it sounded like the places and people he was describing.

In my teens a good friend made me a double-sided cassette with Nebraska on one side and Tonight's The Night on the other, so I've always connected the two in both mood and documentary-like recording choices (the swaying-in-front-of-the-mic in "Mellow My Mind," for example).

Re: the Robert Johnson comparison, cutting to disc is going to be different to recording to tape, especially tape that can be overdubbed, but I was thinking more of the setup where you could just record in a regular room meant for habitation, not a professional facility built and designed for recording. Someone mentioned "the Basement Tapes" and Dylan is a perfect example - home recordings made in the folk tradition of preservation is pretty much done with the same approach. (The new Dylan box set has a lot of these where he's in someone's home and they run a tape. On the one hand, not professional and not something a label would agree to put out back then due to the recording conditions, but it's also clear few if any fans thought they were "unlistenable" when they became extremely popular bootlegs.)

But also just think of all the minutiae that Springsteen got used to in recording an album, where it's a very slow process and even physically how you perform can feel constricted, and it's a common anecdote where a recording artist just wants to do something and an engineer or producer will push back, giving technicals reason the performer has to accommodate. I think stuff like that became much more common as recording became more sophisticated and demands like cleaner separation or better fidelity became greater and greater. Whatever Robert Johnson had to accommodate in the 1930s, it wasn't so burdensome that he couldn't just do it sitting in a hotel room.

https://substack.com/inbox/post/177026285

It's all good (essay from Buffalo Tom's Bill Janovitz) but the ending is chilling:

In the album’s title track, “Nebraska,” Springsteen adopted the “meanness in this world” from O’Connor’s “A Good Man is Hard to Find” story, dropping into the voice of the real-life serial killer, Charles Starkweather, who inspired the great 1973 Terrence Malick film, Badlands, which in turn inspired the song. In Springsteen’s depiction of Starkweather, the killer attributes the senseless, detached murders as a response to that meanness, as if he were just caught up in it. Starkweather, though, never used those words nor indicated as much. But he did write that he and his girlfriend accomplice, Caril Ann Fugate just wanted to “have fun.”

The meanness in that song, explained almost as if the killers were mud on a bad karmic wheel of the world, was overt and resulted in eleven people dying. The meanness of “Highway Patrolman” is more subtle and personally felt and dealt. There’s the blatant violence of the climax, but more primary is the vague and intimate brotherly meanness, with the narrator starting the song by characterizing his brother as “no good.” Not troubled, or struggling, or capable of bad actions, but simply and absolutely “no good.” The narrator feels the world’s meanness in the form of wheat prices dropping and the lifelong burden of trying to catch and right his wayward brother. He does nothing to explain possible reasons for Franky’s bad actions. Even as he explains that he took Maria and took the job, the cop takes it for granted that he is the righteous, upright citizen, stoically carrying on in the face of the meanness of the world, like Cormac McCarthy’s Sheriff Ed Tom Bell character in No Country For Old Men. Though the song begins as a testimony, delivering his name, rank, and barracks number, the vocal delivery is almost that of a man sighing out the whole tale. The patrolman seems more relieved than anything else by the end of the song, no longer having to care for his brother or have him there as a reminder of his own failings.

Different people feel the world’s meanness in varying degrees and intensity. Depending on where you live, how old you are, your station in life, or your mental health, the meanness can sometimes feel more distant and life more generally hopeful. But one would have to be completely detached not to feel absolutely beaten down by the world’s meanness in late 2025. In this country, meanness has rarely, if ever, been more celebrated. Hypocrisy is laughably irrelevant. Shamelessness is a superpower. Cruelty is virtuous and synonymous with strength. One has to feel severely insecure and frightened to take such pleasure as to make so many others feel small and insignificant at best, and parasitic at worst; people sent away, imprisoned, or killed without any due process or justice. Heroes are now villains. “I like people who weren’t captured,” said the guy who got a deferment. That same year, he mocked a person’s disability at a rally. It was only the beginning. Long live the mad King from Queens! He’s the real hero! One worth staging an insurrection for! He will surely pardon us winged monkeys who minister to his cruelty.

I kept a notebook of various Buddhist and related wisdom back at the turn of the last century. One quote I noted was “People are at their cruelest when they are intentionally avoiding suffering.” It’s basic Buddhist dharma, but presented in a particularly effective way. Most suffering stems from insecurity, a challenged sense of self or ego, or a lack of economic or physical well-being. My simplistic theory is that such insecurity can generally be seen as the source of much of humanity’s cruelty.

If cruelty is the sign of someone who is suffering, then we are being led by one of the most insecure suffering bastards in history, wallowing in his own hell-on-earth. We encounter ordinary meanness from people almost every day. But rarely has it been this heightened and obvious. We watch as one person projects his vanity and insecurities, surrounding himself with other pathetic creatures similarly suffering, creating a dark new reality that affects the whole world. The problem here is that he is creating a hell for all of us. He has also given permission for his and his team’s collective meanness to become the default for his followers, who welcome and wallow in cruelty, having voted for him three times. We have all heard or read the now-cliché, “the cruelty is the point.” Most of the time, it seems precisely true.

What is it you’re afraid of? Is the world changing from what you once perceived it to be? Is AI going to destroy us? Are immigrants here to take your place? Are your grandkids now proudly expressing who they are, unlike the days when people had to hide it? Do you feel left behind in this changing economy that, by design, encourages an ever-widening gyre of extreme inequity? Is your gated community fortified enough to protect you when the pitchforks and torches come for you? Do people need billions of dollars in order to feel secure and powerful enough? Who hurt you, Elon? Your father, right?

Bad behavior is often explained by one’s upbringing. But how do people who were raised with an unchallenged sense of security, with a value set that stressed compassion, kindness, and understanding, and who turned out predictably liberal, make sense of their elderly parents knowingly voting for cruelty and corruption at least two of the last three elections? “What’s so funny ‘bout peace, love, and understanding?” That was written by Nick Lowe, ironically, in the early ‘70s, a poke at idealistic hippie music. Lowe knew then that the meanness of the world was ever at hand, and a song asking to “smile on your brother” and “love one another” was the height of futility.

Meanness is having the hour, which seems to make a great many people gleeful. Meanness is hogging the road like a semi tailgating you at 75 miles per hour in the middle lane. I long for a day when I can pull over on the side of the highway and watch the taillights disappear.

Josh, your post made me think of something I wrote about Nebraska when I first listened to it about six years ago. I wanted to share it here but wasn't sure how, so I just made a really basic substack with exactly one post in it. If anyone's interested, here's me in 2019 discovering Nebraska for the first time while also being really burned out from my first year of teaching.

I hope this link works!

That's a lot better writing than anything in his Cars book.

xpost Good essay! Fascinating to read some of the parallels to the thing I posted.

Yeah that's great Lily. I like your take on "Reason to Believe," I feel like that song teeters ambiguously in that tension you describe, between knowing all these situations are hopeless but understanding why people reach for hope anyway. Which includes Bruce, obviously. He's really arguing with himself all the way through the album, and that song is where he lands. It's the "I can't go on. I'll go on." of rock n roll.

Still not sold, not going to see this movie, but was not expecting this:

https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/henry-selick-springsteen-deliver-me-from-nowhere-1235158777/

Walter Chaw's review is interesting and personal, if weirdly incomplete (it doubles as a retrospective on...Side A of Nebraska??) but mostly it highlights the compromised nature of the project, beginning with the title.

I still might watch it when it hits streaming.

I still have no actual wish to see the movie, but it does seem to be polarizing rather than a complete flop. My housemate, who saw the trailer, hated it, and has been following Deliver Me From Nowhere news with horrified fascination ever since, says that about one in seven critics seems to like the movie, and I think that's about right.

Here's this piece in Defector:
https://defector.com/dont-watch-deliver-me-from-nowhere-unless-you-want-to-cry-about-your-dad

And this one in Jacobin:
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/spingsteen-biopic-nebraska-white-strong

There's a kind of unifying thread of "this might not be a good movie but I still connected to it" that's interesting and almost tempts me to watch it.

haha, not me! I find nothing more dispiriting than a mediocre misfire.

"Almost" is the key word here. It makes me wonder if at some distant point in the future I'll find myself at a place in my life where this movie speaks to me. It sounds like a combo of parts that are earnestly bad and things that actually work, and right now I think I would cringe much too hard at the bad parts to get anything out of the rest of it. But I'm glad there are people who like it!