Steely Dan

Is there any point in getting Citizen SD when one has approx half of the albums? I'm really turned off by the concept of not respecting the album/CD breakdown, but I'm pretty tempted by the object itself..

i start listening to marvin hamlisch.

Do you HATE steely dan i do! Smug music must die.

-- Russell Dixon (sproutrus...), June 4th, 2004.

You are young yet. You will get older and sadder and learn to love them. MARK MY WORDS!!

Love, Smug Scott

Love, Smug Scott

how old and sad do I have to get?

xp jack cole otm

once again, I have to disagree with jack cole and I can back up his deefness with the fact that HE LIKES JAPANTHER.

The credits are bungled too, without the track-by-track breakdown that Aja and Gaucho used to have, which is key considering they were getting close to a different drummer per track by the end.

This seems preferable to doing what the Black Sabbath box set did, which was putting the thing on 8 discs and charging 100 dollars, thereby guaranteeing that I will never be able to afford it. The Steely Dan box set, on the other hand, is just an unbelievably great bargain.

quote]Breaking news! Steely Dan's Rent Party '09 Tour
will include multi-night stands
of special setlist shows
in New York, Boston, Los Angeles, and Chicago.

All evenings of these special engagements
will offer one of the following programs:

* CLASSIC ALBUM (PLUS) Night
Setlist is one of three classic Steely Dan albums
in its entirety -- plus selected additional favorites

* "TAKIN' IT TO THE SEATS" INTERNET REQUEST Night
Setlist is determined by the internet votes
of ticket-holders for that show/quote]

They should do a programme where the set list is determined by an ILM poll...

whoa

holy crap ... awesome ... I am so there for the Chicago shows

Yeah, I've never seen them live before, but that is seriously tempting.

missed my chance to see them at the Nokia last year - definitely going this time!

lol maybe i'll go with my dad. when is this??

some more details

*| Setlist for "Classic Album (Plus) Night" is
| "Aja", "Gaucho", or "The Royal Scam"
| in its entirety -- plus selected additional favorites.

*| Setlist for "Takin' It To The Seats" Internet Request Night
| is determined by internet votes of ticket-holders
| for that show. Note your ticket purchase confirmation number
| from Ticketmaster (NY, LA & Chicago) or
| Telecharge (Boston), and look for
| voting instructions to follow.

* Jul 22 - Boston - Wang Theatre / Aja (Plus)
* Jul 24 - Boston - Wang Theatre / Gaucho (Plus)
* Jul 25 - Boston - Wang Theatre / Internet Request

* Jul 28 - New York - Beacon Theatre / Aja (Plus)
* Jul 29 - New York - Beacon Theatre / Gaucho (Plus) 6/6
* Jul 31 - New York - Beacon Theatre / The Royal Scam (Plus)
* Aug 01 - New York - Beacon Theatre / Internet Request

* Aug 21 - Los Angeles CA - Gibson Amp. / Aja (Plus)
* Aug 22 - Los Angeles CA - Gibson Amp. / Gaucho (Plus)
* Aug 24 - Los Angeles CA - Gibson Amp. / The Royal Scam (Plus)
* Aug 25 - Los Angeles CA - Gibson Amp. / Internet Request

* Aug 31 - Chicago IL - Chicago Theatre / Aja (Plus)
* Sep 01 - Chicago IL - Chicago Theatre / Gaucho (Plus)
* Sep 03 - Chicago IL - Chicago Theatre / The Royal Scam (Plus)
* Sep 04 - Chicago IL - Chicago Theatre / Internet Request

Why are they not playing The Royal Scam in Boston?

Because of the Wang.

nice

i know it'd be foolish to hope they'd play any of the first 4 albums, but it's kinda lame for them to tease "3 classic albums" and then go for the ones they pretty much play from the most already.

uh. uh. this. um. holy shit. uh.

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wau

would so like to see the Gaucho show - oh well I'm still seeing them at a regular show next month

Curious about the "Takin' It To The Seats" Internet Request Nights. Any chance these votes could throw up something unexpected? Doubt it personally, but it'd be pretty cool

i know it'd be foolish to hope they'd play any of the first 4 albums,

I don't understand this. Countdown I can understand (although sheesh, it ain't free jazz or noise or whatever). But are the other three so much more avant-garde or poorer sellers than The Royal Scam?

It's not a matter of them being less popular or less accessible, it's just that they've favored material from The Royal Scam onwards ever since they started playing again in the '90s, with some earlier staples mixed in there. Can you imagine how much more fan reaction there'd be if they did, say, Pretzel Logic as part of these shows? Hopefully the internet request system will allow for earlier stuff.

still trying to figure out how I can go to all three shows without completely alienating my wife

it's just that they've favored material from The Royal Scam onwards ever since they started playing again in the '90s

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it's just that they've favored material from The Royal Scam onwards ever since they started playing again in the '90s

But that's what I'm wondering. Why would SD especially favor that material? I know Aja was their biggest seller. But it's not as if the first four albums sold poorly. And it terms of tightness, they're more accessible than Aja and Gaucho. It's so odd.

royal scam is the bomb, so i don't see that as weird but doing gaucho instead of pretzel logic seems weird

Dunno if the OP still hangs here but I SB'd him just in case.

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Why would SD especially favor that material?

Isn't their trajectory in the '70s largely about trying to perfect their sound? No surprise that they would be less interested in playing what they considered to be inferior, or at least less-polished, material.

yeah, was gonna say that, more or less. i mean those guys do not seem especially proud of Katy Lied.

dumb question but are tickets sold out for this shit, NY dates in partic?

From DF's twitter:

accepting setlist suggestions for european tour (which I will ignore), rehearsals soon, perhaps a 30 minute Glamour Profession is in order
4:30 AM Apr 7th from web

I guess he's just being snarky but that would be awesome.

I think "Glamour Profession" is not beloved by Dan-heads so yeah snark.

i can count on one hand the number of musicians whose twitter i'd actually want to read but donald fagen is one of them now

haha yeah - it had kinda been my own little secret for a while but totally worth following.

These shows sound great - I totally understand why they'd choose this album. Their newer material definitely sounds a lot more like the late 70s stuff than the early 70s stuff.

30 minute Glamour Profession would be just about the best thing ever. Still think there should be an Italians Do It Better remix of this song.

yeah - I love Glamour Profession. First one I think about when I think about Gaucho (which happens a lot). Not necessarily the best on that one, but somehow it seems to encapsulate the whole vibe.

heh, pretty sure I think about gaucho on a daily basis. it's been a slow process going from being the only pre-90s SD I didn't really care for to (probably) top 10, all-time fave status. but I guess steely dan the band has been like that for me, generally speaking.

and "babylon sisters" is the one that captures everything about the album for me. but "glamour profession" is awesome too, obv.

I'm genuinely surprised it isn't well-liked! too long? I would take it over the title track on aja in a heartbeat.

The last time I saw Steely Dan, maybe last year, the woman next to me insisted on high fiving me after each song, the entire show. That alone may keep from any of these shows.

I think "Glamour Profession" is not beloved by Dan-heads so yeah snark.

Sez you!

This is like Sophie's Choice. Probably won't know which one until I'm buying the tix on Sat.

I might have to go the Gaucho show just to hear 'Time Out of Mind' but the first four tracks on RS are just indestructable

They played "Time Out Of My Mind" as the very first song on the show two years ago. If I had to pick one of the three LPs, I'm going RS

er, strike that "My" outta there, blah

anyway, gonna try to do all three of the LPs, screw the fan vote thing, but depending on funds probably going to end up with just Gaucho & RS

i don't wanna know what these tickets cost. i would probably do gaucho though, and then go out for szechuan dumplings at mr. chow.

interested parties:

i like that THE_REAL_SHAQ is one of the three people fagen follows on twitter.

gonna ask the pops if he wants to hit one of the NYC shows tomorrow, lol

The last time I saw Steely Dan, maybe last year, the woman next to me insisted on high fiving me after each song, the entire show. That alone may keep from any of these shows.

this is appropriate behavior imo

would hi five

From Fagen's tweetfeed

http://bit.ly/Z1A38 should have invited me to the jam, Mr Hoots, I was free in '88 and really dig the song
5:13 AM Jun 12th from web

that's great

At the gig now! Band tuning to fleetwood's the chain

wow

okay now I am tempted to get a twitter account just to follow fagen and nobody else

Are tix sold out for august 1 yet?

this si what a typical setlist looks like

Reelin' In the Years
Time Out Of Mind
Godwhacker
Show Biz Kids
Bad Sneakers
Two Against Nature
Black Friday
Aja
Hey Nineteen
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More
Green Earrings
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart with band intros
Josie
Peg
Kid Charlemagne

Encore:
Do It Again

obviously not pretzel logic fans anymore

anybody been going to these "classic album" shows? I have tix for "Gaucho" and "Royal Scam" ... seriously thinking about plunking down for "Aja" too, what the hell, you only live once...

Lefsetz has been writing about them. Not that I trust his taste.

my dad and i were gonna go to one of these but i had a tennis tournament that weekend :(

Too rich for my blood, but I just got an e-mail from Ticketmaster announcing a 2-for-1 deal for the Gaucho night, so I'm thinking about it.

seriously thinking about plunking down for "Aja" too, what the hell, you only live once...

living hard will take its toll

(given the opportunity, i'd prob shoot for all three myself)

saw the gaucho show. loved it. this band is just so fun to see live.

was really happy that becker didn't sing on "gaucho" (the song) like he did last go around. or do his weird pervo old man monologue during "hey nineteen".

Becker's voice has really grown on me, Circus Money was aces

heh, never checked out any solo becker. maybe one day I will... but probably not.

fagen's twitter feed is weirdly hilarious to me:
http://twitter.com/DonaldFagen/status/3308841578

i want to know more about becker's 'pervy old man monologue'

The more lyrics I forget, the more Walter gets to sing...so I think we'll let him croon all the "internet requests" tomorrow, mmmm?
10:04 PM Jul 24th from web

hah, that's great.

xpost:
when I saw them last year, during the "skate a little lower now" part of the song, the band started jamming for a few mins while becker yammers to the crowd. talks about spending an evening with your lady friend, having some drinks, and then doin' some work w/her. lots of innuendo and crowds cheering accordingly.

kind of grossed me out but I can see how the dan would think that it was a funny thing to do. sort of their m.o.

hey, can you recommend me some steely dan-influenced stuff? something like xtc's standing in for joy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpuT7q-bVTQ

ha yeah was just gonna say that azita album

dumbest first post