What's your fave rekkid store?

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Sorry if this has been done to death elsewhere, but I'm looking for an excuse to hype up the remarkable NYC FUTURE LEGEND, as I think they're proper great.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I pity those record stores that achieve meer improper greatness.

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In Amoeba We Trust.

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Synaesthesia...

OCP (OCP), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

There aren't any good ones where I live now, but when I lived in Sonoma County, CA my favorites were Backdoor Disc and Tape (good hip hop section, huge used CD selection, best in the county, they kinda look at you funny if you go in and buy all new stuff) in Cotati and The Last Record Store (pathetic hip hop section last time I checked, better for classic rock, jazz and indie fuXor type stuff, has LPs) in Santa Rosa. Incredible Records (mostly used LPs, CDs and rare memorabilia) in Sebastopol was also pretty cool, although I never really bought much there. Um, Backdoor and Incredible Records don't have websites as far as I know...

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Synaesthesia is great.

I heard that he was selling up or something - say it ain't so!

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Of the (UK)chain variety, I have to say Andy's, which is sadly no more: the owner was a gneuine music fan, whose stock was not purely basedon projected sales. Also FOPP is unique.

Jez (Jez), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

fopp may be unique, but it has been the worst thing ever for independent record shops. it's taken all the locations of them, stole the style of them and the market, but are basically a more reasonably priced HMV. yuk. (i still by tons of stuff from it, but hell! i don't feel good about that...)

Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i have three - 78s, dadas and mills

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Robbie - I kind of agree with your point on Fopp. But the one near me is the best vinyl outlet in town. For CDs they suck, but for vinyl they are very good (at the moment, at the one place).

You do have to feel dirty in fopp though, as it really is just a modern day booksave, with different media.

___ (___), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the advantage of edinburgh i guess. as i wee west end weegie, all i get from Fopp Byres rd, is CD's (and not the widest range really: anything halfway interesting is generally £15) , a shitload of books and DVDs.

Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Manchester: Piccadilly Records
Bristol: Imperial Music (sadly now closing)
London: Rough Trade, Selectadisc, Notting Hill Music Exchange

Neil Stewart, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

some excellent dutch stores
utrecht, da capo records
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rotterdam, demonfuzz records
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amsterdam, distortion records
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willem (willem), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

My rankings:

1/ Rasputin (San Jose, CA)
2/ Ameoba (Berkeley, CA)
3/ Encore (Ann Arbor, MI)

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i second future legend. and offer up sounds

danh (danh), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Mono in Glasgow.

But I tend to shop in Fopp, One Up and The Cavern (all Aberdeen)

Also, the mail order service from Pure Groove is outstanding. I've ordered things at 4.30pm and had them reach me - 600 miles away - in the next morning's post.

coco, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I vote Synaesthesia also

No Sasha, my friend, Mark aint selling the store. He was going to, but wasn't happy with a deal or something and things fell through. Currently hes still working there, 11-6 weekdays and working his record label, which i may add, just recently made their 12th release to date since December's inception, Robin Fox's synaesthetic Backscatter DVD for prepared oscilliscope.

For those Melbournites interested, head down to Bennet's Lane (melbourne's shitty jazz club, unfortunately) this Sunday for the launch night of Ataxia (SYN009), the collaborative album of Pateras/Baxter/Brown

Rob McD (Rob McD), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to put a vote in for Princeton Record Exchange. Also, Aquarius.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Ameoba in Berkeley gets my vote. The experience was euphoric.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

twisted village -cambridge, ma
various salvation armies

kephm, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Amoeba in SF (pending a visit to Amoeba in LA at some point).

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Rasputin (San Jose, CA) pales in comparison to Streetlight, which is just 10 minutes away on Bascom.

Unless you rate record stores by their selection of unfinished wood CD/DVD racks. Then Rasputin kills.

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

When in Minneapolis:

Treehouse (indie, punk, good vintage vinyl - the standard for Mpls record stores)

Let It Be (house techno selection on vinyl is great, good coverage of indie and great 60s-70s rock, r&b everything vinyl - Ad Rock from the Beasties once dropped thousands here in an afternoon)

Roadrunner (covers most indie, but specializes in wierd kraut, forgotten prog, etc...good old country usually too)

Electric Fetus (really good hip hop, covers the basics of all genres well)

Cheapo - larger warehouse, but great for picking up new stuff used (lots of djs + journos sells shit here it seems), vinyl section is HUGE and a big crapshoot, but you sometimes pick up some real gems for cheap --- New CD prices are a bit high though)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Soundscapes in Toronto is excellent.

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ded, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

1) Aquarius, San Francisco, USA
2) Jet Set, Kyoto, Japan
3) Lou's Records, Encinitas (San Diego), USA (esp. circa 90-95)
4) Tower Records, Shinjuku (Tokyo), Japan (name is licensed from USA company of same name)
5) Amoeba, San Francisco, USA
6) No Life Records, Los Angeles, USA (RIP)
7) Rough Trade, London, UK
8) Other Music, NYC, USA
9) Vinyl Only, Heidelberg, DK
10) Time Bomb, Osaka, Japan

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Favorite record store? Probably Encore in Ann Arbor. Tons of shit stacked up everywhere. Lots of gems. I also think it just has a lot of character.

Best store(s) I've been to? Aquarius, Other Music, Mondo Kim's

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

R.I.P. Sound and Fury: Gone but not forgotten.
Nowadays, in Hell-Ay, I hit Sea Level when I am that far East, and prefer Aron's to Amoeba.

Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate to bring this up, but can someone explain to me the pros of other music.

danh (danh), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

They used to have this really cute guy who worked there.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Amoeba SF vs Berkeley and why?

I've strangely never gotten around to either, so...

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Neptune Records/Royal Oak, MI [www.neptunerecords.com]

Bent Crayon/Cleveland, OH [www.bentcrayon.com]

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

gygax you are a rolling stone

Thea (Thea), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate to bring this up, but can someone explain to me the pros of other music.
-- danh (dan_haa...), July 21st, 2004.

They have a lot of great, obscure music most other stores don't carry and usually in large quantities. Their mail order is usually quick. Their used bins are filled with tons of amazing shit dumped there by all the clueless/desperately poor critics living in NYC.

Blightersrock (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm....must check this place out, but in the interim....

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Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Rocks in Your Head wins the prize for most hip musicians(and their record collecting friends) working in a record store that's not really that good. Its good for books and videos and I suppose new releases, but the used vinyl is pretty static.

I did, however, meet the guy from the band Funboy Five there.

And I totally don't remember but somebody just told me about the band that the guy who runs Rebel Rebel used to be in. Know what I'm talking about?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Y'mean French Dave? I don't think he was ever in a band (nor is he actually French, but his attitude suggests that he ought to be....service with a sneer, etc.). The guy in Subterrenean Records (Cornelia Street) used to be in a band called Winter Hours.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

harshaw otm. rasputin san jose is shitty. streetlight in san jose used to be my fav record store ever when i went to santa clara. plus it had all of those 'cool' kscu dj's working there, too.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Penny Lane, Christchurch, New Zealand
2. Galaxy Records, Christchurch, NZ
3. Amoeba, San Fran, CA
4. Rasputins, Berkley, CA
5. Real Groovy, Wellington, NZ
6. Amoeba, LA, CA
7. Records Records, Dunedin, NZ
8. Echo Records, Christchurch, NZ

chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

No one ever mentions Don's Music in Brooklyn. I'm amazed by how often I go there looking for some weird thing (Belle Barth albums, some specific Don Cherry record, etc.) and find it. Not exactly cheap, though. The store feels crowded even when you're the only customer, which is some kind of achievment.


dlp9001, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, don't know who exactly, but someone I know who used to work there was telling me about him. I'm not even sure who I was talking to about it, at this point.

I'm not a big fan of the store either way.

I'd also like to pubically call bullshit on a store I've supported for a long time called Rocket Scientist. I never minded the owners attitude, I thought it was charming and often well founded. I've gone there periodically for a long time, I've bought expensive 7"s from boxes not on display, I'd asked for his advice and even purched a $100 dollar Syd Barrett bootleg CD set. Recently I went to the new St. Marks location, looked around, and asked him if he ever got the Slapp Happy/Henry Cow CD. His response "that's more of a Kims sort of thing."

How is the more of a Kims sort of thing? First of all, the way he said it implies that I hadn' even thought of looking elsewhere, and as if I was asking for MC freaking Hammer. Now, to anyone who knows their stock, how exactly is a Slapp Happy/Henry Cow CD NOT a Rocket Scientist type of CD? A store that has multiple Soft Machine bootlegs? Anyway, I found this frustrating enough to recall my support.

He also told me nobody would buy a Metal Urbain CD, that nobody would care about the Homosexuals, and so on...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Unfortunately, word is Don's is going out of business, as he's moving to LA. My only issue is many of the used records are over priced, but not all of them, I've found many good records in the 3 to 7 dollars range, it's just frustrating when you'd find something you want and it was 20 and it would still be there years later. He was certainly one of the most fun record store owners to hang out with and I sometimes avoided stopping in because I knew I'd be there for a long time. I did buy my guitar from him, though.

Lauren Podis and I went there once and he read us excerpts from his novel.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Rocket Scientist are fuckasnobs. I'm tired of it. If you're not asking for Levon Helm bootlegs or the OST to Get Carter you might as well be in there asking for donuts and crayons. I made the grievous error of asking for a Stranglers release there, and you'd think I'd asked the guy to see his grandmother's underwear. Fuck'em.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Where is this Rockist Scientit? It would be fun to go in there and just annoy the shit out of the guy. Like, take forever going through the discs, and turn around every 2 minutes to ask "do you have any P.M. Dawn?" and shit like that, just to fuck up his schtick.

That Don guy always seemed SO annoyed whenever I would go in there. I bought a little Danelectro mini-amp from him and felt like the guy was working really hard to be unfriendly. I always thought he and the See Hear guy should team up and open the ultimate retail clerk aloofness emporium.

Oh, I think I mentioned this story on another thread, but I was once going through CDs at that 24 hour fire-trap record store on Ave A and 6th street (can't summon the name right now) and I found an enormous, dangerous looking, live spider crawling around in there. I screamed like a schoolgirl, and the punky chick running the place put it in her hand and ran out of the store to free the spider in the park across the way.

Finally, I once found two $20 bills at the Sam Goody in Montgomery Mall in Bethesda, MD.

Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

there are only a few record stores that transcend (sometimes just barely) my general definition of such things as necessary evils. among those are reckless records in chicago, stereo jack's in cambridge, other music, kim's, amoeba, certain towers, bimbo tower (even though it's not entirely up my alley)...

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

$40? thats enough to buy 2 cds from a sam goody's... awesome.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

it just makes no sense. This guy liked punk, you know? And if you come in and ask for something typical and boring, he doesn't give attitude, hell, he made a living in the west village selling to locals who weren't always super savvy. It's like he has such disdain for your typical young record hipster that it doesn't matter what you ask for. He would talk about not carrying things because "that may sell in the east village, but not here". I wonder how he'll fair competing directly with Mondo Kims and Other Music? I'm sure he'll do fine with the good selection and increased foot traffic, it was just that last exchange annoyed me so much.

Rocket Scientist is now on the north side of St. Marks btw 2nd and 3rd, after many years on Carmine. For the record, the owner was once one of the main guys at Venus records during it's 8th street hey-day.

I can see how Don could go either way, maybe since I befriended him, but he's always been super nice to me.

Accidental Records, I think is the store on A.

For the record, I haven't been to too many record stores worldwide, but the big Reckless in Chicago when I was there summer of 96 was the best shopping I ever did. And Princeton around 95 when they still had tons(or maybe just got some) of cheap Rough Trade 7"s.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

it's just frustrating when you'd find something you want and it was 20 and it would still be there years later.

dan, how are your negotiation skills?

Don's sounds like Atomic Records in Glendale, CA (suburban LA).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and "HI THEA!!!"

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Amoeba SF vs Berkeley and why?

the SF store is 3 times bigger with better selection and deeper catalog titles. but when Amoeba was just Berkeley I would hit it sometimes 2x in one weekend visit.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i forgot about twisted village. though the basement setting is kind of gloomy.

and i still, despite myself, sort of think of all these places as necessary evils.

rocket scientist is weird. is it still open?

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Finally, I once found two $20 bills at the Sam Goody in Montgomery Mall in Bethesda, MD.

Heheh. And with them you'd be able to just afford two incredibly overpriced pieces of mass-produced pop shit on cd at the same store, no?


Xpost bill heheheh

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

NYC Record/Disc Stores I sorely Miss:

- Route 66
- Venus (when it was on 8th Street)
- 99 records
- It's Only Rock'n'Roll (also on 8th)
- Smash CD's
- Lunch for Your Ears
- the former NYCD locale

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

back when i was buying a lot of 60s/70s soul comps, there were all kinds of random record stores in lower manhattan that had a lot of such stuff at good prices, but i've since forgotten all the names. (i spent a lot of time in nyc when i was in college, which was more than 5 years ago.)

what is that one, not on st. mark's, but around the corner, that has tons of cut-outs and compilations and such? they used to have good prices, but when i've been in there over the past three years the prices are pretty outrageous.

j&r music world is surprisingly good, actually. and they have nice sales sometimes.

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

what is that one, not on st. mark's, but around the corner,

Free Being

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

no, i don't think that's it. it's near 7th ave i think. or maybe on 7th ave? my sense of manhattan geography is totally shot. i'll have to come visit soon.

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Free Being briefly moved to the East side of Carmine Street (across from Rocket Scientist's former location). I worked with a woman at LIFE Magazine who lived on St.Mark's Place who spearheaded a neighborhood community movement to oust Free Being, claiming it was a hotbed of noise and a front for drugs. We used to call Free Being "Defwreckastow", cos you'd go deaf in there shoppin' for records.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, you're thinking of WOWSVILLE

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Had a run-in with the Spaniard who runs WOWSVILLE when my friend Rob tried to buy the large Ramones print (first album shot) that had formerly hung in the Lakeside Lounge (complete with gum stuck to the frame). The guy would not budge despite Rob's monied pleas. Negotiations came to a sour end when he turned around and turned up the Gary Glitter disc that had been playing in the background.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

there are some other decent stores on the other side, closer to avenues A and B, right? what are those called?

i miss new york.

chicago has such lame record stores. i don't venture out very often these days, but i used to discover another new and totally lame store every year or so, like rolling stones on west (waaaaaaaaaaaaay west) irving park (or is lawrence?) and that one on lincoln across from the 2nd hand stores.... one of the lamer stores (though not as lame as many) closed while i was in paris: record exchange on belmont. reckless and evil clown (which has some good used buys, but the new stuff is overpriced) are the only decent stores left in that neighborhood. unless you count gramaphone, which is south a ways.

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

how is it that dr. wax stays in business anyway? the dr. wax on bryn mawr is even more depressing than the one in evanston, no mean feat. i think the one in hyde park closed (???).

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate haggling, but my skills are ok. Don gave me some deals, but often he was firm.

Wowsville is absurdly overpriced on much of the used vinyl.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Offer to take it off his hands for $10. If he knows it's been sitting there for a few years he may take you up on it or if he's a shrewd businessperson, make a counter-offer.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"what is that one, not on st. mark's, but around the corner, that has tons of cut-outs and compilations and such? they used to have good prices, but when i've been in there over the past three years the prices are pretty outrageous."

it's gotta be finyl vinyl

duke 6th, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

well now that Don's is closing, I suppose all bets are off anyway!

Nobody's mentioned Adult Crash yet, which was wonderful, far as I can remember. Like a slightly more personal Other Music, in the days prior to Other Music.

finyl vinyl was pricey as sin when I went there.

these days my shopping usually means looking for dance records at Academy and A1.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

mod lang is much better than amoeba or rasputins. maybe cause they cater to my musical bias.
neptune in royal oak probably has the best ratio of great records to total number of records they carry. it was better when it was play it again though.
an ann arbor store nominated? when i was there the only store i went to was wazoo hoping someone with similar taste had sold something back recently.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm... are there any halfway-decent record stores in the Washington DC/Balto area? Carrying vinyl is a plus. Have asked several friends and the best I could get out of them was CD Warehouse...

BOH, Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

for dance music try DJ Hut. Lots of typical new stuff, baltimore breaks(of course) but pretty great dollar bins filled with italo/eurodisco/freestyle type stuff. if that's your bag.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I love Chicago and couldn't ever call myself anything other than a Chicago native even if I never live there again, but Chicago doesn't have any decent record stores I bother visiting outside of Record Surplus in Niles (slightly smaller sister store to the one in West L.A.), Reckless, and Hi Fi.

Oh wait, and Dusty Groove, which is actually a really, really kick-ass specialty store (complete with drive-thru service, if what was true in '02 is still true today)

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, still there

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Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

-Amoeba SF I think is my fave.
-Aquarius Records is a close second.
-Even though the people at Record/Video exchange in Camdend Town suck I have gotten lots of good cheap vinyl there.
-Reckless in SOHO was good too. In fact Berrick Street just threw me for a loop the first time I went there.
-can I count Forced Exposure?
-Amoeba in LA is my regular haunt even though they regularly dissapoint.
(for instance last year I was bitching to the electronica manager about their lack of Kompakt, Matthew Dear, microhouse in general on cd he said "nobody buys that shit") They overstock IDM which they push relentlessly.

hector (hector), Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Now, to anyone who knows their stock, how exactly is a Slapp Happy/Henry Cow CD NOT a Rocket Scientist type of CD?

John at Rockit Scientist isn't so bad. He has his schtick and it is what it is...I find it kind of charming at this point. Funny that he said that Slapp Happy was a Kim's thing, since his was the only store I could find Ca Va at when it first came out, and he used to carry a Slapp Happy bootleg CDR. I think that coming from him, "x is more of a y kind of thing" means "I forgot to order x."

One of a number of reasons why I like him: long time ago I had mentioned that I wanted to hear White Light/White Heat in mono. Months go by. I walk into his store and he hands me a CDR of mono White Light/White Heat that he'd made for me. I'm far from a big customer there...used to stop by once a month or so and by 1 or 2 things, therefore that's going far beyond the call of duty.

As for Don he seems like a really nice guy. I've never known him to lower a price, but that's his choice. He's been talking about moving to LA forever: "Gonna get a nice crib in LA" so I'm not sure what to make of the news of his leaving.

In the end, I miss Holy Cow the most.


dlp9001, Thursday, 22 July 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

as I said, I was ok with his schtick for the most part for quite some time. I wasn't a regular customer but I think he'd recognize me. Even if not, if you have lots of psyche and prog rock, telling someone Slapp Happy's not your thing doesn't seem to be a great idea.

I know Don's been talking about it, but a friend of mine was just there and said it was definate, like he's really moving. They talked about the price of the rent on the place as well.

My favorite Holy Cow story...I used to go there a lot because I lived in south slope in 97/98 and would stop by all the time, Steve was definately one of the nicest record store owners around, the prices were a bit erratic, but that meant some good deals, he had a decent turnover and good used CDs. One day I think after moving and after DJing a lot I came back and went to the back of the shop to all the unpriced dance 12"s under the counter and came back with about 30 records, I think 2 bucks each or whatever. He looked at me and said "I really don't know what I've got with this stuff, do I?" and I shrugged my shoulders. I came back a few months later and did it again and he asked further, about not really knowing what's worth checking out in piles of no-name dance 12"s from the early/mid 80s. I just told him I usually start by looking at the producers credits for italian names.

Anyway, yeah, good store, walked by it's old location yesterday on my way to Smiling Pizza.

There's another interesting spot in the hood, on 5th avenue just north of 9th street, I think the sign just says "stereos and records" or something. An older guy with TONS and TONS of records, mostly a bit too pricey, lots of dance records you want for 2 bucks priced at 6 bucks, but the occasional odd find, like the Durutti Column's Circuses and Bread for 2 bucks.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Geograprhy will do this to ya, but I really enjoy Riverwalk in Montpelier, VT. (Only Vinyl)

CDs - Buch Spieler - Montpelier, VT & Pure Pop in Burlington. Hell, I'm a hippie. Nuff said.

jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Dr. Wax on Berwyn is great for hip-hop, dancehall and soul/r&b. They are definitely better than the one in Evanston - more vinyl, too (although its overpriced) and they actually carry kompakt shit.

Gramophone is of course classic

Reckless is annoying, but sometimes you can find a good deal on used shit (I got Akufen's album for 5.99 there today).

Hard Boiled and Evil Clown and Dusty Groove are all really good.

I've even found some hot shit at the coconuts on diversey.

djdee2005, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

hard boiled has a tiny and unadventurous selection, and no used cds, though. the guy who runs it is super nice, and it's the only place to rent some dvds and videos (though his video collection is going to be obsolete fast if he doesn't keep up with the import dvds). i still have about 25 dollars to use up on my rental account there.

i just find the managers at dr. wax so annoying (this goes back at least a decade) and the stores so thoughtlessly arranged and depressing, whatever the selection (which i don't find so good even for r&b). the classical sections don't have any organization at all.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

what do you find annoying about reckless? aside from a certain icey quality on the part of some of the staff.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I will also vote for the Princeton Record Exchange, though I am sort of biased as I live like 3 minutes away and go there like every day. I still think it's the best store that I've ever been to overall, like they cover every area pretty well. And probably they ultimately have the best used vinyl prices I have seen. I once saw a record (Iowa Ear Music, I think it's like a self released free jazz/improv LP from Iowa in the 70s) that I bought there for 1.99 selling for $100 at the WFMU fair.

Yeah, the guy from Rockit Scientist is awful. I find him amusing a lot of the time and kind of like talking to him, but just as often I get sort of sick when I go in there. I think of Rockit Scientist as like the record store version of Chris Stigliano/Black To Comm, in that I both go to the store and read the magazine, but oftentimes when I'm doing so I just wonder why I bother.
Me and my friend once heard him having a particularly laughable conversation with some other guy, and then two months later we went back and attempted to repeat the conversation verbatim between each other to make fun of him. I don't think he heard us though.

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The staff is a big part.
The whole trendy urban outfitters elitist staff thing.

Plus you think Dr. Wax is thoughtlessly arranged!? it took me 30 minutes to find the Akufen album that the guy TOLD me was there! You have to thumb through stacks of album covers in plastic sleeves that are in no order other than the "A to F" section of "Techno/Electro" which is somehow different from "Dance" which is somehow different from "IDM" and then there's also a "House" section. Plus all the CDs are already opened when you buy them (including new ones). And again - the staff.

I've found Dr. Wax on Berwyn to have an amazing soul selection...I've never really looked for classical there though.

As for Dr. Wax in Evanston, the guy with the ponytail is a jerk, but the black guy who used to have dreads is incredibly nice, knowledgeable, and nerdy (in a good way).

djdee2005, Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

PS and yes I know the (largely irrelevent) differences btween house/idm/dance/techno but it seems the staff who shelf those albums have some other crazy logic. I've found Kompakt Total comps in IDM, Dance, and house sections at various times.

djdee2005, Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"As for Dr. Wax in Evanston, the guy with the ponytail is a jerk, but the black guy who used to have dreads is incredibly nice, knowledgeable, and nerdy (in a good way). "

i went to high school with him, but haven't seen him in eight-nine years

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Hit up Cafe Express on Dempster, he comes in there after work occasionally. I'm on a "what's up" basis w/ him, I don't remember his name.

djdee2005, Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone know the name of the place in Atlanta, i think around 5 points, that was or is owned by the db records guy? that was a pretty great place. i remember finding a couple of really good feedtime records there. for cheap.

danh (danh), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Euclid Records in St. Louis a lot. I guess I purchased my first record there, when it was still just the vinyl shack. Now the cd store, once located in a different part of the city, has merged with the vinyl shack, creating one large store. They have a much better vinyl selection than Vintage Vinyl, that is for sure. I've never bothered to look at their cd's, though.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I am related by marriage to Euclid Records' owner, so I'm probably a little biased about it. By any objective standard, however, they offer a better selection and more pleasant shopping experience than Vintage Vinyl. And their used bins often yield overlooked treasures. I bought a replacement copy of the Trypes' The Explorers Hold there recently for cheap.

I only got to visit 99 Records twice, just before they closed. I bought my copy of Beat Rhythm News there. Pier Platters is the defunct NYC shop I really miss. Tunes can't begin to make up for its loss.

The best record shopping I ever did: Avalanche Records in Edinburgg, fall of 1996.

mike a, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"the place in Atlanta, i think around 5 points, that was or is owned by the db records guy"

Wax 'n Facts! They had an amazing used section the couple of times I visited.

mike a, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone got any funny stories about Lunch For Your Ears? Owner Manny was notoriously eccentric. Luscious Jackson named In Search of Manny after him.

mike a, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

He would talk about not carrying things because "that may sell in the east village, but not here."

He said that to me once about the Sun City Girls.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, Smash is gone? I used to hit their outdoor CD bins every weekend.

mike a, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I second Wax 'n Facts. They had the cover to a Swimming Pool Q's record painted on the outside. I bought a bunch of Renegade Soundwave 12"s there for 2 bucks each.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Rasputin (San Jose, CA) pales in comparison to Streetlight, which is just 10 minutes away on Bascom.
Unless you rate record stores by their selection of unfinished wood CD/DVD racks. Then Rasputin kills."

I picked Rasputin as my fave cuz the last time I went (a year and a half ago), I walked out with 60 vg-amazing cds from their bargain bins. If Streetlight is the one on the same road , but more towards downtown, I thought it was wasn't bad, but I was less impressed.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

hard boiled has a tiny and unadventurous selection, and no used cds, though.

HB had used CDs when I lived in Chicago. He also got great used LPs in, and priced them pretty decently.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

favorite record stores by town:

New York -

Eat Records, Greenpoint (great, cheap vinyl)
Academy Records, Manhattan (great vinyl, not always cheap - haven't been to Brooklyn one yet)
Earwax Records, Williamsburg (got a friend or two working there = discounts!)
Other Music, Manhattan (can yak for an hour with an ex-member of Rodan about record biz stuff, otherwise sorta meh)
Mondo Kim's, Manhattan (good prices, but sorta feel creepy for supporting an indentured servitude-driver)
still have never been to Don's (should hurry). Miss Holy Cow.

Chicago -
Dusty Groove (great selection, okay prices, much better since moving)
Hardboiled (good selection, great at special orders, nice guy)
Reckless (okay, good discounting policy)
Deadwax (when first opened had decent rare stuff for good prices)

San Francisco/Berkeley -
Aquarius (great selection, O'Rourke baiting)
Amoeba (good selection, sorta too hectic at times tho)

Louisville -
ear X-tacy (not the only game in town, and problematic but still the old standby)
Better Days (great for dance records)
Highland Records (okay used stuff but sorta pricey)

Princeton -
Princeton Record Exchange (fucking awesome plus they employ Don Rettman)

Philly -
Philadelphia Record Exchange (not bad but the dude shoulda gave me a better discount for returning that rare Beatles rec he accidently put in my bag

Boston/Cambridge/Somerville -
Twisted Village (#1 in tha hood, g)
In Your Ear (not bad, seen better days - got great crap here 7 years ago tho)

New Paltz, NY -
Rhino (not up to former glory, but still not bad)

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

These Records, Elephant and Castle, London. A white door with "These are here" written in Sharpie near the buzzer. Mostly a distributor, but aslo a great little storefront. Extremely nice people and rarities galore. Perfect.

tiiiiiiiiiim (tiiiiiiiiiim), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

re reckless in chicago: the one in w1cker p4rk is terrible, but i don't buy indie 7 inches. the one on broadway is great though. shopping for cds in those stores can be utterly painful though.

my fave store is amoeba in sf.

tricky disco, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought These was shutting down?

WP Reckless got better after moving to Milwaukee Ave.

Speaking of which, Milwaukee the city has amazing record stores. Notably Farwell, that toy shop, and a few others.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Toronto:
Rotate This -- great inventory, best prices in the city
Sonic Boom -- closest thing we have to Amoeba-style bargain bins

SF:
Amoeba -- perhaps the finest rekkid store that ever lived

Berlin:
Dense -- all minimal techno + noise/experimental of all shapes and colours, I swear I want to marry this store and have babies with it.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

WP Reckless got better after moving to Milwaukee Ave.

wow, i completely disagree...

tricky disco, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that my opinion about rekkid stores is flavoured not by the variety of great stuff they have in stock, but what and how much I leave with. So, with that said, my "faves" are probably not "the best".
(The best being those stores where you say to yourself, "wow, I can't believe that they have this and this and that!...but I have those already")

Also, I think that there's the difference of whether the store is a great "new" store, a great "used" store, or both.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I say that the "best" store in Toronto is Soundscapes. Rotate this has a larger selection, but overinflated prices.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Soundscapes is not cheaper than Rotate (there's no way to quantitatively check this, but that's my perspective).
SS: chairs, books, tidy appearance
Rotate : waaaay more stock, vinyl.

For me, substance wins over style here.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone got any funny stories about Lunch For Your Ears? Owner Manny was notoriously eccentric. Luscious Jackson named In Search of Manny after him.

Not really a funny story. Manny was evicted (as was the store) as I believe he developed a financially depleting drug habit. The end result was that boxes and boxes of the store's stock was taken out of the shop and simply left on the sidewalk (eventually all snapped up by scavengers). Very sad, really.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. I apologize, then.

mike a, Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

OTHER MUSIC!

But my best record shopping was done in this small shop in Amsterdam, where I picked up loads of great Tomita and early Vangelis vinyl, plus a killer Live in '78 Ryuichi Sakamoto album, in excellent shape for super cheap.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I would be surprised if Other Music lasts another five years.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

??? why hstencil ???

"in your ear" in boston/cambridge has a lot of cool shit tucked away, but the people who work there are like the antisocial record clerks of popular imagination x10. i lived a few blocks away in alton and went there a number of times over the course of a year, and found a lot of stuff, but i often had to pester the staff to let me go behind the counter where they have oodles of stuff just piled high, which you can't possibly hope to see from anywhere else.

newbury comics: i found all those walker bros cd reissues for $7 each.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I see it gone for many of the same reasons a lot of other record stores have gone out of business, but there are a couple of OM-specific reasons too. I know for sure that the Cambridge store hurt 'em big time, hopefully that's off the balance sheets by now.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm split between LOU's in encinitas (where all of my friends work) and MOD LANG in berkeley. amoeba is obviously fantastically useful, though.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to also give props to Something Else in Park Slope. This little record/cd store/clothing boutique is owned by Anthony Roman from the band Radio 4, his wife and I think a silent partner type. Working there now and getting records for sale are my good friend Jeremy Campbell who used to work at Amoeba in SF and Nick Forte from Rorschach/Computer Couger/Beautiful Skin etc. I stopped by there the other day just to say hello and ended up walking away with a ton of great dollar records, some cheesy 80s stuff I wanted, some classic house stuff. They have a suprisingly decent very much slept on collection of vinyl and Nick and Jeremy have been making efforts to get more good used vinyl. Worth checking out.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i admire anyone with the guts to open a record store, and admire them even more if they can keep it open for at least a few years.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

OM doesn't show signs of sickliness. Every time I walk in its full of shoppers. Etherea on Ave. A (or is it called something else now?), on the other hand, is the one that surprises me with its longevity. I never see more than three people in there at once, including whoever's behind their register.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree, I have no idea how Etherea stays in business. However, my OM comments are somewhat based on conversations w/ "those in the know" or whatever.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

also I don't admire Bleecker Bob. Does anyone?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

not to beat my own little dead horse or anything but I think ethera stays in business by catering to people who really don't want to mess with other music.

danh (danh), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

that could describe like five other stores in NYC too.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i overheard the GREATEST CONVERSATION EVER about 10 years ago at bleecker bob's. it was about a vacuum cleaner. my friend wrote it down. i wonder if she still has that notebook somewhere.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

it's its own little industry and a reason to like other music.

danh (danh), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

How does Bleeker Bob's stay in business? Between its ridiculously inflated prices and its legendarily nightmarish staff, it's arguably the most reviled record store in NYC. And yet, year after year, it stays open in its prime NYU-area location.

Midnight Records on W. 23rd was occasionally good for a hidden gem. Too bad the staff acted like they were doing you a favor by selling you recors. I lived two blocks away from Midnight for years, yet avoided the place like the plague.

mike a, Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Major xpost, but can I just take a moment to point out that Bent Crayon in Cleveland is the WORST record store EVER. They have a great website with tons of reviews and a huge dance catalog, except that you cannot order from it. And you cannot call them, either, because their voice mail has been full since last December. What you can do is e-mail them asking about your order and they will reply by saying "oh, sorry", but then still not complete your order.

I'd wish them ill, but they already live in Ohio.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"I stopped by there the other day just to say hello and ended up walking away with a ton of great dollar records, some cheesy 80s stuff I wanted, some classic house stuff. "

jesus christ shut up dan!

duke slope, Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Bleeker Bob's is still open?

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Midnight Records on W. 23rd was occasionally good for a hidden gem. Too bad the staff acted like they were doing you a favor by selling you recors. I lived two blocks away from Midnight for years, yet avoided the place like the plague."

and their owner was a dick to their employees, a few of whom got in trouble when the feds shut it down because of bootlegs. Fuck that guy.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Princeton Record Exchange (fucking awesome plus they employ Don Rettman)

heh! the store has been declining for the past few years, but i can't dispute the rettman part.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Nicest Record Store Staffers (when you don't know them):

Aquarius Records, SF - nobody else comes close

Worst Record Store Staffers:

Bleeker Bob's, NYC - Big Fucking Assholes

Vinyl Fetish, LA - also BFA, but soon to be OOB

Aron's, LA - don't know ANYTHING (had actual release-date-question experience there where three employees were telling me that there was no new Nick Cave record coming out while giant "New Nick Cave Album" poster hung on the wall behind them).

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Aron's, LA - don't know ANYTHING (had actual release-date-question experience there where three employees were telling me that there was no new Nick Cave record coming out while giant "New Nick Cave Album" poster hung on the wall behind them).

this must be a recent phenomenon because 3/4's of KXLU worked at Aron's 94-95.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Aron's circa 2000 to present, though my anecdote took place in 2001, around the time that actress girl Shannon Whatever who was in that knight movie worked there.

If there were any KXLU people there, they were working the buying counter (which is possible- those folks were much better than the floor and counter staff).

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

heh! the store has been declining for the past few years, but i can't dispute the rettman part.

last time I was there, last fall, I found it well-stocked and dropped about $120 or so.

And the Rettman connection does rule, yeah.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

If you find yourself in Columbus, Ohio Used Kids is the place to go.

Sam Benson (Sam Benson), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The current Aron's staff doesn't have people who I've personally seen act like dicks, but a lot of them slook like dicks and, christ, stop playing Devandra Banhart when I go in there.

Amoeba in L.A. has nice people working the checkout counter. The info desk and hip hop/soul/techno is populated by arseholes though.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I like Something Else too! It's so small, but that teeny little used vinyl section in the front is really worth going through from time to time. I always did wonder how they stay in business.

Anyone remember the episode of Felicity where they plan to go record shopping at Bleeker Bob's? I was hoping there'd actually be a scene filmed in the store, but no such luck.

dlp9001, Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"look like dicks" that should say

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone elaborate on the agreed assholishness of BB's staff?

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

$200 for No New York, pre-eBay era even.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The Aron's staff doesn't act like dicks, they just act like they don't know what time it is.

I second the hip hop/soul/techno desk at Amoeba sucking. A couple of them are cool, but most of them really suck it big time.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I once showed a deep and obviously play-affecting scratch on a $30 Laibach record to a Bleeker Bob's employee and he responded "if you don't like it, don't buy it".

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That one girl who works there is nice eye candy, though. You know who I mean. xp

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The Dr. Wax on Berwyn wins because it is haunted by the ghost of Wesley Willis, who probably spent a good 50% of the last year of his life sitting at a chair in the corner underneath an army of talking James Brown statues. The Dr. Wax in Evanston, on the other hand, is *wretched* -- tear down that fucking Sleater-Kinney "One Beat" poster already, ok?

I'm partial to Laurie's Planet of Sound, north of the Clark-Belmont sinkhole. These guys get no love in Chi.

ng, Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Late to the table with this one, but yes -- Bleeker Bob Plotnick is the Messiah of Assholes. Even if they have something I want, I'll go well out of my way to find it elsewhere on principle.

Midnight Records....meh. Good if you're a major league Fuzztones fan, but good for precious little else.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

the one at Amoeba?

yeah, I do

poor girl, though - I just saw her get harassed the other day by a customer who looked like (and acted like) that corporate guy in Mike Leigh's "Naked"

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to really like Adult Crash too. I also miss Pier Platters.

Is A-1 records still around? Did anyone mention Gimme Gimme? Jammyland? The basement of Disco-Rama on W. 4th?

I used to go to Second Coming when I was 11 but it's been a while.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the one in the hip hop/soul section. I think she's Hawaiian. Any cute girl at Amoeba probably gets harassed by creepy record collector scum who already know damn well where to find the Curtis Mayfield LPs.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm partial to Laurie's Planet of Sound, north of the Clark-Belmont sinkhole. These guys get no love in Chi.

They get no love because it's a horrible store.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally miss Pier Platters.

So, because of this thread, I went and checked out Future Legend on 9th Avenue today (and bought Gene Simmons' new album for a paltry $5.99). Nice place. Sorta reminds me of a less indie Sound + Vision (on Orchard Street).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

second coming was great there at the end

adult crash aesthetic sort of continued with shrine, minus any retail of course. i can't believe no one has mentioned shrine. frankly it makes me wonder about you guys a little bit.

duke shrine, Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

once again I'll give props to CD Trader in Tarzana, a 15-20 minute drive up the 101 from Hollywood, which has a pretty great selection of used CDs and DVDs

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post Second Coming is only good for concert vids/DVD's now.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - I used to go to Shrine all the time! Kinda hard listing a "favorite" when it's gone.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm partial to Laurie's Planet of Sound, north of the Clark-Belmont sinkhole. These guys get no love in Chi.
They get no love because it's a horrible store.

-- hstencil (hstenc!...) (webmail), July 22nd, 2004 1:23 PM. (hstencil) (later) (link)

i don't know about horrible, but not terribly inspiring, yes. they kept moving for a while, too; i would show up at their old address, to find an empty storefront, then wander along lincoln avenue until i found the new location. i guess this can be explained by all the changes the neighborhood is undergoing?

chicago is a terrible record-store town, all told.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

future legend's prices are pretty hard to beat. the selection isn't too great but they have any new release you could want.

danh (danh), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - no Chicago is not a terrible record town, although it's not as good as it used to be.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

really? you think it's ok, hstencil? i guess it's unfair to judge against nyc.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post Second Coming is only good for concert vids/DVD's now.

Ummmm...it's a Mexican take-out place now.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kinda hard listing a "favorite" when it's gone"

there's been quite a lot of that going on here though, that's why i mentioned it

duke threaded, Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

L.A. has spoiled me for record stores, since nothing in NYC or Chicago can compare to Aron's or Amoeba for price and selection, unfortunately.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost to am - I think Chicago's much better than smaller cities, and price-wise better than NYC. And most of the stores here (even some of the used ones) cater mostly to white/indie, whereas Chicago's got stores where funk, soul, blues and jazz are the norm.

I don't know about Chicago in comparison with L.A. though as I've never shopped anywhere there.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Does the CD Trader in Tarzana have range, or is it the typical chain used store? I ask because the used section at Amoeba in Hollywood has totally dried up and Aron's is just sad....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the employees at Bleeker Bobs is Cowboy Mark, a local DJ and pretty nice guy. Since he's been there he's been stocking all kinds of disco, freestyle and house type stuff occasionally. It's worth checking out for that. But I wouldn't go if he's not working there.

A lot of those old stores had AMAZING selections of late 70s early 80s 7"s that languished there for years. While most of you were looking at records on the wall of Other Music and Kims and Shrine, I was buying hyped2death style singles from the boxes of Subterranean and Bleeker Bobs. Mostly all gone now though, and they certainly didn't replenish, this was like, OLD stock. Subterranean had like 30 copies of the Sniffin Glue Alternative TV flexi for some reason.

Shrine was OK, a lot of those singles were overpriced, making it not a "fun" shopping trip, but the dollar bin was good.

Haven't been to Gimme Gimme in ages, but I usually buy some stuff from him at the record fair. 35 bucks for the impLOG 12".

I'm sure Princeton comes and goes depending on the whim of who's selling what, but the last time I went it was depressingly understocked, and the few times before that it was definately not as great as it was when I was first going around 93/94.

Last night I made a 200 dollar mail order from Other Music so I wouldn't have to come in and talk to you guys.

Just kidding. I just don't have the time.

Midnight Records sucked.

But of course the best record store in NYC is Rock-n-Soul Electronics.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost to am - I think Chicago's much better than smaller cities, and price-wise better than NYC. And most of the stores here (even some of the used ones) cater mostly to white/indie, whereas Chicago's got stores where funk, soul, blues and jazz are the norm.

you might know of some places i've managed to overlook in 25 years, so spill it.

jazz record mart used to be the place to get obscure blues stuff, but now i can find such things on the internet for much cheaper. they still advertise that they sell 78s, but what they have left are broken and/or horribly gashed big-band 78s. oh, but they do have cassette cut-outs! and how!

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I like CD Trader because it always has tons of very recent releases used, and a lot of treasures (i.e. indie releases that Amoeba would price at 10.95 used for 3.99). I would actually say it's even better for DVDs.

Also, all you CHicagoans should head west a piece and go to Record Surplus in Niles, which I mentioned above.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

tell me about record surplus in niles. it has to be pretty great for me to borrow a car and get there.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

If you do a little looking around i think ny is fine for prices. Just as Alex showed us with his Gene Simmons purchase there.

danh (danh), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

rolling stones on west irving park (?) is strange: they often have new releases for pretty cheap, but they also charge $9.99 for CDR copies of dylan/stones/etc. bootlegs. there used to be a rolling stones in the loop. so far as i can tell, tower and borders are the only cd stores left in the loop.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

JRM is problematic yeah, but occasionally the weird thing pops up, like the $1.99 Bobby Williams Funky Superfly LP my friend sold to some German on eBay for $300. I just think a lot of the general used stores (that aren't Reckless) are pretty good for all kinds of LPs. Used to really dig the 2nd Hand Tunes in Hyde Park when my friend (of the aforementioned eBay score) worked there.

Record Surplus in Niles wasn't all that, if it's the place I'm thinking of. I think I did manage to convince a then-girlfriend to buy a Tower Recordings LP they had there.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Reckless ain't that bad, either, I should say.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

hey dan sorry no greaves/cunningham or new mother around right now

duke order, Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I saw that dude from the Homosexuals in OM yesterday. At least, he was snapping shots of their fliers and the CD box.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

that shitty used vinyl place on division (what was it called?) finally closed.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Record Surplus is a pretty good-sized store that has tons of pretty cheap used vinyl in great condition. I can't remember how great the selection is compared to the one here in L.A., but to give you an idea I went in to the one here a few weeks back with ten bucks and walked out with pristine LP copies of Dirty Deeds... by AC/DC, Low by David Bowie, My Life In the Bush of Ghosts by Eno/Byrne, and British Steel by Judas Priest, and I spent 8 bucks even.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

that shitty used vinyl place on division (what was it called?) finally closed.

Crazy Man? I always avoided that place.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post Second Coming is only good for concert vids/DVD's now.

Ummmm...it's a Mexican take-out place now.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), July 22nd, 2004.


Yikes. I was thinking of the place on 8th Street, 2nd Floor near Psychedelic Solution. What's that one called again?

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

revolver

duke proxy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh that place. Where unloved Beatles bootlegs go to die. Revolution Records? Revolver Records? Something like that....and oof does it need to be euthanized.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a throwback....anyone remember a record store/head shop on 63rd Street & Lexington Avenue back in the early 80s? I bought Back in Black there as an 8th grader. And a sponge in the shape of the Police logo.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost -Yeah, that's the one. Second Coming had all the great punk/Goth pos(t)ers. Sullivan St., right?

Boy, this thread is fun.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, "crazy man." what a dump. they had a nice sign though.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Sting is not sponge-worthy.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

think i want that sponge

duke sumner, Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No love yet for Generation Records on Thompson Street?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that Vintage Vinyl place up in Evanston still there? All I remember is that they had seriously overpriced LPs

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - well, I got Jailbreak on CD for like $11 new? So maybe that's a l'il love for Generation.

Vintage Vinyl is still there, and still sucks.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

do a search for "vintage vinyl" on ILM and ILX and you will find several of my rants.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

a quarter of my vinyl is probably from generation, didn't want to let that cat out of the bag, though it's declined of late.

duke inclined, Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I always get too bored to go down to the vinyl section.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

does cheapo records in cambridge mass. still exist??

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone remember the ol' Crazy Eddie's on the Upper East Side? First on 3rd Avenue between 85th and 84th (where I first bought Group Sex by the Circle Jerks, Stukas Over Disneyland by the Dickies and the 7" of "Peek-a-Boo" by Devo) then on 86th between Lex & 3rd (where I bought the debut by Belfegore, The Big Express by XTC and .....WAIT FOR IT... NightTime by Killing Joke.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

No love yet for Generation Records on Thompson Street?

No, none.

What about Vinyl Mania, is that place still around? Dan, nice call with Rock and Soul. I just hope you weren't kidding.

I have to give a shout out to Sandbox Automatic while we're at it. Even though it's not a bricks/mortar place, it's one of the best record shops in NYC. I used to work there so maybe I am biased.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

alex you have an uncanny memory for record purchases.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)


Kims-un helpful and too much attitude(think in your ear staff without a sense of hummor), nothing special selection wise
bleecker bobs- overpriced but can occasionly find a steal such as 12 inch of the theme song for the 1986 mets championship


other music - there used selection is usually really good and a great staff (talked about crispin glovers solo record for 20 mins with one of staff)

for a good record store outside of new york
Last Vestige in albany, ny has an amazing selection of good quality used vinyl for reasonable to cheap prices. Pluss you can sit down while you preview the records

jb, Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

....misty water-coloured memories...of the waaaayyy we werrrrrrrrrrrrre...

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.dwmmusic.com/images/RecordGuy.jpg

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

alex you have an uncanny memory for record purchases.

Well, it was big stuff for me at the time. What can i say?

Anyone remember a hole-in-the-wall record store on 2nd Avenue in the high 80's back in the summer of `86? Those guys later founded Smash and NYCD, i believe.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Another fave - Integrity N Music in Wethersfield, CT. GREAT used jazz (and some other stuff) vinyl.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh good I'm not the only one who thinks Vintage Vinyl is a nightmare. It's one of those stores where you probably couldn't find a STeely Dan LP for less than 10 bucks.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

$15.99

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

just thinking about all the vinyl he's sitting on because he refuses to price reasonably makes me mad. but i get the feeling he doesn't actually want to sell anything. there's no other explanation.

it's the only store i know (only *record* store [for a likeminded video store see facets]) that prices new import CDs *above list*, i.e. those sanctuary 2-cd things will be priced at like $30. good riddance.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

does cheapo records in cambridge mass. still exist??


hell yeah, 50 year anniversary! with the same crazy libertarian guy running the place.

kephm, Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(the same guy that has been there for a spell, not the same guy who opened it in '54)

kephm, Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

that place is funny

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Another one I forgot about: the downstairs vinyl section of that Bleeker Records store (near the old Rockit Scientist) held some pretty amazing deals on 80's stuff when I visited a few months ago. No idea if they replenish, but I walked out with a ton of $2 steals at the time. No opinion on the staff.

And it took me forever to find them after they moved, but for certain things Downtown Music Gallery is totally essential. Nice guys too in my experience. I like that they have one single polaroid of the only shoplifter they ever caught...I wonder if people call her.

dlp9001, Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I just have to throw in a big AGREE with how hot that girl at AMoeba is. She knows her stuff too.

hector (hector), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Last Vestage has a really good store up in saratoga springs now too. good used records cheap.

danh (danh), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Downtown Music Gallery too, but hardly ever go there. Probably why I forgot it.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Downtown Music Gallery too, but hardly ever go there. Probably why I forgot it.

I liked it better when it was next to The Scratcher.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't wanna know what that is.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a bar, you perv-o.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

what kind of bar?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Irish. "Scratcher" is Irish slang for bed, I believe.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

keep digging that hole.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a great bar, man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

no joke about Rock-n-Soul, I go there every few weeks to stock up on house and disco and hip-hop classics and bootlegs. Recent purchases include Ram Jam, Plastic Dreams, Freestyle Don't Stop the Rock, etc.

Love for Generation here, I've found, at times, some decent new wave and classic rock vinyl downstairs, not to expensive and not much competition?

Why oh why do I keep ordering stuff from Other Music that they don't have in stock!?!!? Kim's has that Greaves/Cunningham CD, so there.

I just spent an hour on the phone with Bruno from the Homosexuals. Wow.

Downtown Music Gallery...I dunno. Bruce has a habit of being a bit condescending I suppose. Had a bad experience once there where he was really unfriendly untill I told him Elliot Sharp suggested his store, then he got really nice. Ask him about Robert Wyatt to make him friendly.

it's like record store clerks are puzzles in a video game, you have to say the secret word to get acceptance.

At Other Music it's "Animal Collective", I think.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

vinylmania's still good, they have lots of the same boots that Rock-n-Soul, Dancetracks etc carries and good used stuff with some good hi-nrg and italo.

there's also the Fulton Mall stops, Beat Street and the underrated/unknown Music Factory which carries tons of the classic beats and breaks and boots, including one odd house white label featuring the first Black Dog track Virtual. Yes, I bought Black Dog Productions on vinyl at a Fulton Mall store best known for it's collection of Big Ass videos.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Imperial in Bristol was mentioned way back up at the top.

It's such a great shop, and the staff are so friendly and enthusiastic. I'm gutted that it's closing - it'll actually change how I feel about Bristol because a Saturday afternoon visit to Imperial is such an integral part of my life.

I believe the main reason for the closure is a massive rent rise by the landlord, but I can't help feeling the baleful influence of Fopp just over the road hasn't helped.

Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone been to Mystery Train in Amherst Mass? They don't have a big selection but its a very nice store. They had a lot of the ZYX ESP reissue CDs for 8 dollars each.

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"At Other Music it's "Animal Collective", I think."

a bit disingenuous of you dan and you know perfectly well why. and i mean if you said MF DOOM you'd have most everyone too. not to mention yr beloved arthur russell. lotsa stuff, and we're mostly all ready to go on and on about anything and you know this too.

duke break, Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

probably academy music on 18th st. in nyc...cos i don't have much money, and i can nearly always pick up a cheap review copy of albums (especially hip hop and electronic) within a week or so of release...

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

just saying any particular store may have it's special band, and that's made even easier when members of said band work or have worked their.

Go to Kims and say you're looking for a Sightings record, and you're in...

Go to Rock-n-Soul and ask about The Rapture, or Ted Leo, or Black Dice...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Mystery Train is a great used store. Dynamite in nearby Northhampton used to be great, but has really fallen off in recent years. Still decent for new indie releases, though.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"Go to Rock-n-Soul and ask about The Rapture, or Ted Leo, or Black Dice..."

i know mark ronson loves DFA/the rapture. and stretch armstrong. it's not out of the question at least in that case.
i just don't think it's that simple and BTW i once even asked for mr. fingers at beat street and they had no idea...

duke idea, Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, I meant Rocks in Your Head!

Go to Rock-n-Soul and ask for house music. Beat Street, though it carries some, is hip-hop-centric.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the people at rock-n-soul don't know jack about ted leo or black dice, or likely the rapture either.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

let's make a bet

duke fingah, Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

they know rapture or at least DFA. for some cool 12" or other

duke bett, Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

you serious? I go to rock-n-soul all the time. There's one guy there who MAYBE has heard a rapture remix. They have a new "rock" section where they stock 10 LPs.

Seriously there's 2 guys I recognize there, one who orders Ballroom type stuff, another who's like a library of KTU classics or whatever, but I can't imagine them knowing the DFA, the only new stuff they stock is very classic NY Masters at Work type house stuff.

One of the guys at vinylmania, I wouldn't put it past him however.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah let's go in together, and a witness. maybe evan or tom or one of your boys
they at least have to know, or convincingly feign knowing, what i'm asking for. dunno if they would actually have it.

duke ready, Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

if yr that sure I take your word for it. I'd rather just accept that then have to go in their with a bunch of dudes and ask them for Juan Mclean 12"s!

but I really don't think they cater to a DFA crowd. Most of their employees are hip-hop and reggae based, and of the 3 or 4 guys who seem to take care of the house/disco side of things, I just don't see them being up on DFA. They have 1 12" with a bootleg of a Daft Punk song...I thought that was a stretch for them.(btw, I bought it for the flipside, Pepe Braddock's Burning)

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm calling them...they're not answering. i'll try tomorrow they're probably closed...

from their website an amusing (and appropriate?) typo:

"Since 1975, world famous Rock And Soul has been serving the disc jokey and music industry in New York City."

duke answer, Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i second used kids in columbus. it's great which is kinda funny since columbus sucks in every other way.
pier platters was laughable when they would mail me those updates with things like 'death and the maiden' 7 inchers for 50 dollars.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 23 July 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

What about (since-vanished, as I understand) Magnolia Thunderpussy? ( I went to college outside of Columbus)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 23 July 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I swear, ppl who say chicago is a bad town for records either live next door to amoeba or have never been to any other cities on earth. Compared to NYC and San Fran, Chicago is a crate-digger's dream too. Cheaper than both.

And Hstencil, I can't believe you didn't mention gramophone! Best store for DJs I've ever been to, some of the most nice and helpful staff....

djdee2005, Friday, 23 July 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

in my younger vagabond days the first thing i used to do when i hit a new town was to rip out the record store listings from the yellow pages and hit up every possible one. in the pre-ebay/everybody knows what collectibes are worth days i must've spent every other paycheck on records. Sadly my memory is shot for names these days but i can still visualize almost all the places.

Ohio
-Used Kids, Columbus. Never found alot there except for some nice cheapo country albums and the occasional oddball thing or two but incredibly nice folks in my experience.

-Bent Crayon, Cleveland. I went there a few months after they opened and didn't really care for it. the guy who ran the store was nice enough but didn't seem to know assholes from apricots (as we like to say in virginia)visited again a couple years later and they seemed to have shifted from a whatever-is-in-the wire magazine-this month selection to mostly dance stuff which suited me just fine.

a bunch of other great shops in Cleveland i can't recall the names of. A great place i think somewhere in Lakeside I found a copy of NWW's Soliloquy of Lilith box for $20 around 94 and some other similar stuff on the cheap. There was another place that was sort of an industrial/anything by wax trax sort of place run by an older guy with multiple piercings with a huge german shepard who could've been mistaken for Al Jourgenson on a good day where I found a copy of This Heat's Health and Effieciency for $5. Another was a mostly punk store that was fairly good sized that had boxes of 45's strewn around the place with an amazing selection of oddball proto-punk and d.i.y. stuff amongst the generic punk and hardcore has-beens. I remember picking up a bunch of Rough Trade stuff like Dr.Mix,Liliput,Kleenex and two Red Crayola singles for about $3 each.

Papa Jazz, or something like that in South Carolina. Bought an armful of FMP/Incus/El Saturn stuff for a fraction of what it'd cost today around 89,90 maybe.

When I lived in north Louisiana there were a handful of used record stores whose stock had been sitting for years and the owners were only interesting in mono-pressings of Cream or Prog or whatever, where i bought 80% of the krautrock I own for dollars a piece. Amon Duul? that'll be a dollar kid but that Zappa record will set you back $35.
New Orleans had some great stores the best of which were in the worst of neighborhoods. Went to a rundown old store that stocked only old jazz albums and discovered their backroom doubling as a weekend flea market space with more Impulse titles than I've ever laid eyes on for dollars a piece. I still dream of that place and lament how broke I was that day.

Reckless in Minneapolis was fantastic. as already mentioned san francisco was and is a treasure trove but especially in the late eighties and early nineties. L.A. was a wasteland except for finding a bunch of artifacts label releases and two homosexuals 45's at a store where the dipshit owner made bleecker bob seem as personable as fred rogers. Pier Platters in Hoboken nearly made me wet myself the first and only time I visited there. Vinyl Ink in maryland i used to make regular treks to. They were overpriced on some stuff (any record that hung on the wall) and ridiculously underpriced on nearly all the rest of their used vinyl. I'll neglect to go into detail about what a first-class prick the owner George could be since he's passed on. Could also ocassionally find some great deals at Yesterday and Today records, in Rockville i think.

countless more i'm forgetting but I'm afraid digging out my little black book of record stores i used to keep will give me a nostalgia attack.

sadly i know live on a mountain and the nearest city with an even passable at best record store is an hour and a half away so mail order is all the shopping i have to look forward to and that's only when the UPS driver feels like braving the one-lane gravel road up the mountain.

dialecticbricks (dialecticbricks), Friday, 23 July 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

and please excuse the misspellings,poor grammar,etc on the above i just got off an airplane and haven't slept in what seems like days. Unfortunately my enthusiasm for the topic has overidden any semblance of rationality or coherency from me this evening.

dialecticbricks (dialecticbricks), Friday, 23 July 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

from age 13 or so i'd do the same thing: every time i was in a new town i'd head to the yellow pages and find a bunch of record stores to visit. for some reason this brings back what now seems like a somewhat dark moment of my life, or maybe just a strange one: my "college tour" of 1994. i distinctly remember a few stores in cleveland heights, and being underwhelmed by same. this was the same summer i bought "the best of luther vandross" (that old double-cd thing) at stereo jack's in cambridge, mass. i think it was my fourth or fifth *cd* ever (the others, to wit: aretha franklin box set, "highway 61 revisited," motown box set).

incidentally does your email address refer to that situationist detournement of a kung-fu film?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 23 July 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

yes,you have correctly outed the source of my email address. the vienet film has long been a source of amusement for me over the years,being the name of the radio show I did in college years ago.

dialecticbricks (dialecticbricks), Friday, 23 July 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't mention gramaphone because I 1. mentioned it on another thread and 2. am bitter Weekend closed.

not to mention yr beloved arthur russell.

yesterday at Other Music I heard an employee talk about how the vinyl was out of stock, sporto.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 July 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I remembered other stores in the outlying Chicago area that are very worthwhile.

There's this place called Shooting Stars out in Dundee, not far from Spring Hill Mall. This fella who looks like Trey Anastasio runs it. Tons, tons of old used vinyl for very reasonable prices, and a pretty fair amount of the new stuff as well.

Full Cyrkle Records in Crystal Lake, which has a really good vinyl selection, mostly old stuff and audiophile, and an enormous selection of 7" records. Huge.

Record Breakers out in Hoffman Estates, which is overpriced but they have a shitload of stuff and a much-improved vinyl selection last time I was there.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 July 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

re: Magnolia: That shop was still there when I left in December. It stocks a nice sampling of indie type things with a surprisingly nice stock of current indie vinyl (if you're into that sort of thing). Their main focus, though, is industrial/metal, of which they have a rigorous selection. Never did much for me personally and it suffered from being slightly too far to walk to from campus as opposed to Used Kids, so that one won out in almost all cases. I used to go there once a month, at least, to get The Wire until they stopped carrying it.

Sam Benson (Sam Benson), Friday, 23 July 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

So that's what, three separate stores named Vintage Vinyl (NJ, St. Louis, Chicago)? And there must be more.

mike a, Friday, 23 July 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex: I'm glad you liked Future Legend. I honestly stopped buying music entirely for quite awhile and that's the first place I've been buying from in umpty ump years.
Just let me get all the hip hop 69 centers eh?
(36 chambers, the predator and straight up sewaside for less than 2.25? Helllllllllloooooo nurse.)

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone tell me how to get to Something Else?

common_person (common_person), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

take R to union go over a block to 5th ave. it's somewhere over there hahaha

duke slope, Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The Oberlin Co-op Bookstore, where I worked with Dan Q. Selzer, was the best store I ever shopped in. CONCEPT ART

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Went back to Future Legend today. They didn't have what I was lookin' for, but I thanked him fer bein' sa-damn cool anyway.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Something Else is in brookyln, btw, common person, if that wasn't clear.

Sam Benson (Sam Benson), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

best store ever untill it went out of business because Dave decided he just HAD to order two copies of the Los Angeles Free Music Society box set from Forced Exposure. He said "one of those noise guys from cleveland will buy it and you will buy it" and I sayd "no way Dave, I don't work here anymore, am about to graduate and don't have the money to buy that thing, I promise you I will not buy it." He ordered them anyway.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

well....it's only $100 per

OCP (OCP), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I swear it even retailed for more back then, maybe I'm wrong though.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 6 August 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Glasgow used to have a fine record store called Rat Records, initially it started in a small indoors gallery, they would do cool stuff like take all their Fall vinyl to a gig and have Mark E sign them all, then stick 'em up on the wall and maybe they'd be a pound more expensive.
They also had a great selection of bootlegs (tapes) on the front counter, lot's of obsure (for the bootleg world) stuff, not endless Beatles/Beach Boys/Springsteen etc: I used to pick up Teardrop Explodes, Wire and Rain Parade live stuff there.
The owner could be a bit cranky at times when it was busy, but he'd still have time to persuade you to put down the first Buffalo Tom lp and buy a Bastro one instead.

Also a nostalgic shout out to a tiny record shop that I frequented several times a week in Irvine in Scotland, called Orion records. Derek the owner was a lovely chap, realy sociable and patient with endless hangers-on (like myself).
I got to know that store's stock on a macro level, so any new interesting thing that came in was a revelation. I wonder if it still exists? Anyone from Irvine on ILM?

mzui, Friday, 6 August 2004 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm from close by. it doesn't exist anymore. was it in the forum?

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No, it was on one of the main streets just outside the shopping centre, where the busses all stop, just up from the bank. God, my memory sucks.

mzui, Friday, 6 August 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

either way, it's not there anymore. there are no book shops and no record shops in irvine anymore. the nearest half-decent record shop is valhalla in kilmarnock. (I live in st3v3nston.)

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I underappreciated Mystery Train in Amherst, Mass. They have a whole bunch of Jandek CDs right next to the door. And lots of Japanese noise rock too.

Ds (ikue mori), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I still love Amoeba SF (although Aquarius is great too), but what the hell is up with Amoeba's used prices??? They've gone through the roof lately. It's just nonsensical. Oftentimes there'll be a used copy of somehting for $14-20, while there's a shrinkwrapped, brand new copy in the new section for the same or less. WTF?

aka Z, Saturday, 14 August 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

a bunch of other great shops in Cleveland i can't recall the names of. A great place i think somewhere in Lakeside I found a copy of NWW's Soliloquy of Lilith box for $20 around 94 and some other similar stuff on the cheap. There was another place that was sort of an industrial/anything by wax trax sort of place run by an older guy with multiple piercings with a huge german shepard who could've been mistaken for Al Jourgenson on a good day where I found a copy of This Heat's Health and Effieciency for $5.

One of these might be Chris' Warped Records on Detroit in Lakewood. Probably the latter. There's also Platter Puss on the other end of Lakewood, which always got a lot of import-only stuff, and the owner (whose name escapes me) is super congenial and gives you a discount if you pay cash. Record Revolution in Coventry has a huge collection of jazz on vinyl in the basement, and local music on the main floor.

phil d., Saturday, 14 August 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Why fetishize software? Every piece o' wax referenced in this thread can be downloaded for free as a high-quality rip on any number of servers. If you're all so wildly into obsolescence, why not collect early 20th century iceboxes or crank telephones? I don't mean to unnecessarily irritate, but isn't actually hearing music at your leisure (while maintaining a semi-comfortable lifestyle) better than spending wads of hard-earned dough at dreadful joints like Kim's or Bleecker Bob's, and living hand-to-mouth on yr ex-girlfriend's sofa? Most significantly, you can put tens of throusands of albums on an external hard drive. Gross weight of typical record geek's fetish crate: 298 kg. Conversely, 120 GB HDD: 0.75 kg.

Just a thought... Happy hunting, you wacky consumers!

alt-cºzen, Sunday, 15 August 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

uh oh we just got served

duke future, Sunday, 15 August 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, alt-cºzen, fuck all the artists -- viva the present and tomorrow and ripping them off so they can starve you can play x-box. you are morally bankrupt you spoiled brat.

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 15 August 2004 06:36 (twenty-one years ago)

on a more obviously "fetishistic" note, it bears mentioning that mp3s SOUND WORSE THAN CDS

duke now, Sunday, 15 August 2004 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

haha wtf.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 August 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack, I'm probably older than you. If your use of the word "brat" is some sort of sexual come-on, sister, you're barking up the wrong Sans-a-Belt trousers. Ripping off artists? Huh? You think paying $300 (or whatever the current col-scum rate is) for a used copy of "No New York" at any vinyl botique puts a single penny into any of the original participants' pockets? I'm not looking for a fucking brawl, you know. Devil's advocate, etc.

As for you, Duke, your comment is not exactly accurate. A properly encoded digital file sounds virtually identical to its analogue (or digital) source. What, you've got an oscilliscope hooked up to your stereo? Wow, I need to look into that! No offense, but I'm almost positive you'd flat out fail any audiophile listening test. As would all of us.

alt-cºzen, Sunday, 15 August 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop, you're making Jack Cole cry!

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"alt-cºzen" (who th' fug is this, anyway?) does have a point. it's crazy to give thieves like bleecker bob anything other than a sour look and the middle finger, and it's absolutely true that original artistes don't make any money at all from sales of promos, used copies, etc. i see yr larger point, and it's valid.

but you're missing the joy that is to be had from holding the old artifacts, from being the first person in yr circle to have a certain album, etc. collecting is fun, and it's our goddamned money to do with as we choose. okay, so maybe i am living with my mom... at least i have a killer record collection! ha!!

UFO Howl, Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the only way to get a properly encoded digital file is to do it yourself. the junk that's flying around the internet is mostly improperly encoded digital junk.

I have a better idea. Why not license the music for re-release, thus promoting the music and getting the artist paid?

And not to speak for everyone, but I'd imagine most of us aren't living hand-to-mouth on our ex-girlfriend's sofas. I have just enough disposable income that I like to send a few hundred dollars to Other Music every now and again to purchase music I want to hear.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

also wtf not everyone has the computer hardware to download all kinds of shit. also some shit is just not there to be downloaded.

/\|\/|/\ (amateurist), Sunday, 15 August 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh, can't believe i missed this post. Neptune in Royal Oak, MI is incredible, especially considering its relatively small size. Big stores... definitely Amoeba in SF but their techno vinyl sucks. Neptune, which is about 1/100th of the size of Amoeba, has a far better techno wax section. Rock records... Amoeba, definitely

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Sunday, 15 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Every piece o' wax referenced in this thread can be downloaded for free as a high-quality rip on any number of servers.

I tend to shop at record stores that are owned and operated by people I consider friends. And by supporting them, I'm also supporting an infrastructure that allows artists I like to have an outlet for their material to be sold, gives artists/labels an idea of a city they can play on tour because they know their albums will reach people, etc.

Vic Funk, Sunday, 15 August 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I'm in Ohio. About equa-distant from Cleveland and Columbus. Where do I go for 12"s, dance/hip-hop/dancahall whatever?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 20 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

So I see a few posts up there about Vintage Vinyl in Evanston. Had to drop off a package at the post office just down the block, so I thought I'd pop in to see what damage the economy has done to this horrible, horrible shop. The verdict? Nothing. Absolutely nothing has changed. Everything is still ridiculously overpriced, I don't think I saw a single piece of vinyl priced under $30. What kills me is the way the owners justify it, a fairly weathered copy of Neil Young's After the Goldrush was priced at $35. Why? Because, "ORIGINAL 1970 PRESSING!!!!". Which would be one thing, if it was just all crazy overpriced thrift store fodder, but the store actually carries an impressive selection of kraut and psych stuff. Just about every Can album and related side-project, Kraftwerk's first two albums, but not a single one of those priced under $50. Just insanity. I'm shocked that this place is still going in 2009. Oh yeah, saw a sizable section of Steely Dan CDs, every single one of them were $40 burnt copies of bootlegs with shoddy artwork. Stunning really that this place is still going.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 November 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

ha, jon go to this thread: the pathos of unsold stock , we were just talking about this kind of thing

mark cl, Monday, 9 November 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

jon - last time I was in there I looked around and silently cursed the high prices. Lurch was eyeballing me the whole time and seemed to be mad about something - I added insult to injury by buying a single 45 rekkid adapter and left immediately!

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 9 November 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

Haha, yeah he was eyeballing me too! You could tell he had this look on his face like "this guy isn't going to buy a damn thing, is he?". Of course not!

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

Here in Chicago I like Laurie's, too, and this place around the corner from me called Deadwax. The latter's prices are always good - $4 to $6 for used vinyl in really good shape. My kind of shop.

Reckless is cool but the other day I saw a used copy of The Wall with some writing on the front for $15. I can't abide that. It sold like 10 million copies on LP, come on. Most vinyl at Reckless is about $3 more than I want to pay.

Mark, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

lol the only fun thing abt vintage vinyl is that one time i ran into billy corgan there

hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:40 (sixteen years ago)

lmao @ my hating on reckless records upthread ... im friends w/ one of the employees now too \oO/

hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:40 (sixteen years ago)

lauries is cool & has saved me from bouncing checks at my bank (by letting me quickly sell CDs) but man id like to see a more non-rock friendly selection sometimes

hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:41 (sixteen years ago)

is deadwax the place on lincoln just east of damen? that place is great, got a bunch of 70s santana in there for under 15 bucks

hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:42 (sixteen years ago)

reckless is great for used / 1.99 vinyl finds. my friend found a dollar bin joint there the other day that sells for like $80 on ebay. they go through so much more stock than anyone else its easy for good stuff to slip by them

hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:43 (sixteen years ago)

i mean, it helps if u like 80s R&B and other not-yet-trendy-enough stuff. basically luther vandross' entire catalog is dollar bin material atm

hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:43 (sixteen years ago)


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