― mas, Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam (adam), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)
Melody in Dupont can be worth a look-through.
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)
CD and Game Exchange is on 18th St., a few doors down from where it crosses Columbia Road. They have another location on Wisconsin Avenue, near the Tenleytown Metro stop.
If you've got a car, CD Cellar in Falls Church is worth the trip. Other than Smash! Records in Georgetown, I don't know where to buy vinyl in the DC area any more.
― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)
What happened to that Now Music and Fashion place?
― adam (adam), Sunday, 25 July 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 25 July 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 25 July 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 25 July 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― jake b. (cerybut), Sunday, 25 July 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― daria g (daria g), Sunday, 25 July 2004 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)
I've been here for only 11 years, but I'm convinced the DC region can't support an independent music store; it has a hard enough time supporting regional chains. If anything has a chance of surviving, it better have a great freakin' location; in the city, near a metro, plenty of foot traffic, low rent...blah blah blah.
― Evanston Wade (EWW), Sunday, 25 July 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)
CD/Game exchange is all over dc. theres one where DC/CD used to be, and theres on in tenleytown. they buy promos, and pay a lot for used cds, so they're cool in my book.
Olson's in Dupont has a best selection, but it's a little pricey.
there's a new one between the 9:30 club and the black cat thats supposed to be rad. they have only vinyl i hear.
― costa! (costa!), Sunday, 25 July 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― costa! (costa!), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Melody Records in Dupont probably has the biggest selection that I've seen in DC. Revolution Records is small but has some decent stuff (nothing you can't find at CD Warehouse though). Their vinyl section is very small. They do have in-store performances every once in a while though.
The only place I know of for vinyl besides Smash Recorsd is DJ Hut in Dupont, above the Subway on 22nd and P (or around there somewhere). They have mainly rap and house and also some bargain bins.
The place that's near where DCCD used to be sucks. Yoshitoshi used to be in Georgetown but that closed down.
But, yeah- as Collardio said, Soundgarden and Reptilian Records in Baltimore are probably better than anything in DC.
― lou (lou), Sunday, 25 July 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)
i thought dccd was overpriced and the staff rude (once i bought an lp with a bad warp and they were like "tough")...
― serge, Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― common_person (common_person), Sunday, 25 July 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
two visits ago is when i stopped by Y&T to find it's doors closed. now i learn that they went on-line. yeah, d.c. sucks. always did, and maybe always will.
back in the day i used to work at Kemp Mill Records, which was a total horror show.
― pheNAM (pheNAM), Sunday, 25 July 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)
That's because Smash bought a lot of Y&T's stock when Y&T closed. But I like the place.
― j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 25 July 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Bob Crain (bobcrain), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
So fuck you, Smash.
Joe's Record Paradise is still around, isn't it?
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)
Still there (but a bitch to get to), and it and Orpheus Records probably have the best vinyl selections in the DC area.
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)
crooked beat is a happy new addition. those guys are indeed great.
― e--- s-------and don't i know it, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)
As Vincent Furnier might say, welcome to my nightmare. Seriously, though — DC has more opportunity for professional fulfillment than probably any city in the US. And when the life thread is "TS: Professional Fulfillment/Good Record Stores", there's really no contest.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
Plus, how much does anybody really depend on a record store nowadays?
I hear that one is able to find lots of new music on this thing called the InterWeb. Bill Bradley invented it.
Or something.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)
One other thing: There was this incredible record store in NE (or was it just Eastern NW) whose name I forget. It was stacked to the ceiling with old vinyl. You could play records and buy old 45s cheap. I bought all the old funk singles. This was a couple years before the funk reissue boom, so the guy who owned the place, for $25, would tape you every Parliament-Funkadelic record he had. Anybody know this place? I got a haircut in NE a couple years ago and the barber told me it had closed years ago.
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)
I saw John Cale there.
― The Mad Puffin, Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)
Can't figure out how I managed to miss that place called Joe's, though. I do remember Phantasmagoria. Got Cabaret Voltaire's "Nag Nag Nag" 12" there.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
THAT'S A BOOST!
― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― steve-k, Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
WWW.WMUCRADIO.COM !!!
― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
― steve-k, Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)
― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)
Well, I travel a lot and have visited many used cd stores. CDepot certainly has the deepest used selection in the immediate DC area. But I would say that the prices are actually on the high end - stuff marked $9.99 that would be $6.99 or $7.99 at most other used stores.
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
re buying cds, the pickings were pretty slim the last time I was at Cd cellar in Falls Church. Plus kinda pricey for used cds- $ 9.99...
Are these used cds stores collaborating to keep prices high? Maybe I should get soulseek and just download?
― steve-k, Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)
Maybe it's just a coincidence some of the area cd stores are all trying to get $9.99 for used cds.
― steve-k, Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 14 January 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)
― Aaron_Spell1ng, Friday, 14 January 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)
this just isn't true. maybe it is regarding their vinyl selection, i never look there, but their cd selection is large and all over the map. big electronic, international, jazz and used cd sections. their reggae/dancehall section is kinda weak. (wtf is a "fashionable re-discovery"? is this some sort of comment like "boo hoo, my favorite formerly-obscure band is now being listened to by a larger audience!")
normals is great for vinyl but their cd section has almost zero turnaround. i used to sell/trade shit to them weekly and was always disappointed to see the same cds. the rap cd section is funny though, lots of wack shit to be found since they obviously don't listen to that stuff.
a couple new places in baltimore - oncetwice sound on charles st. deals mostly with experimental/electronic/psych/indie end of things and the true vine in hampden which has similar taste to oncetwice but more obscure/rare and quite a bit of vinyl.
― contribute, Friday, 14 January 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)
― contribute, Friday, 14 January 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
And why in God's name would you move to Arlington? Northern Virginia is the very asshole of the earth.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
Suffice it to say: I suspect that the things you like about whatever place it is that you like (Soho, Bombay, Iowa City) probably are findable here, and the things that you don't like about Northern Virginia probably exist in profusion elsewhere. But if you've already made up your mind, I'm unlikely to be able to change it.
Generally people who say that sort of thing about NoVa are just looking at the wrong parts of it. It's like that thing with the blind dudes and the elephant.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)
What irks me about wholesale judgments of the form "Northern Virginia is the very asshole of the earth" is how much selective vision it takes, and how that skews the argument away from fairness.
The disparager gets to select (for example) traffic on I-395, the McMansions of Ashburn, Oliver North, Reston's nightlife, and the Tyson's Corner parking lot the Saturday before Christmas and say: "Aha! THAT is Northern Virginia therefore Northern Virginia suxor!"
Typically, it goes further and involves a comparative disparaging, vis-a-vis (for example) New York. So the disparager gets to choose totemic New york stuff like the Knitting Factory, CBGB's, Strawberry Fields, and seeing Dave Letterman pick up his dry cleaning and say "Aha! THAT is New York and therefore New York roxor!"
This is fundamentally unfair.
The disparager sets the terms of the argument; he or she picks the attributes to compare and thus stacks the deck.
Notice that the disparager never wants to let the defender choose examples. Behold: New York also has the cruddy toilet in the back of Louie Vitello's third avenue pizza joint, a patch of pigeon shit on a Bronx sidewalk, Donald Trump's hairdo, a pool of vomit by the side of a bench in Prospect Park, and the cops who shot Amadou Diallo 41 times.
Yes, Northern Virginia has McMansions. But it also has Dr. Dremo, and the Lost Dog, and Iota, and playing frisbee in April by the Netherlands Carillon, and the Serbian Crown, and my cats, and and and and. The disparager will never allow the shoe to be on the other foot and compare, say, Whitlow's on Wilson vs. the Prospect Park pool of vomit.
Instead, twistedly, the defender of what has been disparaged is called upon to defend Ashburn's McMansions as being not all that bad, and/or weakly counterattack by saying that the Knitting Factory isn't all that great anyways. This is stupid. We should just object to the whole framing of the debate.
I don't even pretend to be reasonable about this. I should say that I don't know Naive Teen Idol, and don't know what NTI's beef with Northern Virginia is. But I distrust and dislike the ease with which NTI dismisses the region wholesale. It is at best a grotesque oversimplification; at worst it is the worst kind of snobbery.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― steve-k, Friday, 21 January 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)
But it doesn't make me want to go, much less reside there. Forget Ashburn's McMansions for a moment; the architectural landscapes of Arlington, Crystal City and some (but not all) of Alexandria, are atrocious to the point of forbidding. There are so many white baseball caps present on Wilson Boulevard, one could be forgiven for thinking it was the permanent site of a date-rapist convention of some sort. And the drivers are bar-none the most dangerously clueless assholes I've ever come across. And I'm from Boston.
Which, of course, has its own issues. But I'm not NYC or comparing NoVa to it. It's just become the worst kind of sprawl you could imagine, and for that, I can't stand it. Esp. not when you have DC across the Potomac, which is pretty nice. It even has a Best Buy now, meaning NoVa's main attraction would now appear to be the potpourri of Alamo's and Enterprises along Jefferson Davis (!!) Highway.
That said, mid-VA is quite attractive — so much so, I could imagine raising horses there someday. On my horse farm.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
Let's get back to the thread subject here--record stores. Does Crooked Beat stock just new indie-rock, or new and used rock, or new and used music of many genres?
― steve-k, Friday, 21 January 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 21 January 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
While I think they'd like to have a lot more on hand, the guys who run CB seem to really know and love pop music and want to share it, which in and of itself makes it a great leap over just about every other store in DC that I know of.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 21 January 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Saturday, 22 January 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)
Is Orpheus Records in Clarendon and run by a guy with a huge beard and really gross fingernails? I bought a Tim Buckley cd there once....
Really, NoVA and Maryland are the assholes of the asshole. I hate it here (I'm currently in Alexandria -- from Cleveland originally). The sprawl is just awful...it honestly depresses me, and I don't even know why. I cannot wait to get out of here....
And the record store situation sucks. CD Warehouse is just OK...maybe a better collection than a Best Buy, not too cheap, and very rarely will you make an interesting discovery. Smash (?) down the street in Georgetown is kinda neat, good selection, but the prices are what you'd expect in Georgetown.
― PB, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)
PB, isn't there sprawl everywhere--suburbs, and exurbs outside Cleveland and L.A. and everywhere in the U.S. of A?
― Steve-k (Steve K), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)
And yes, PB, the guy at Orpheus has really, really gross fingernails. I was going to say that I wasn't the only one who noticed, but as I think about it, I can't imagine anyone not noticing them. I myself bought a Colin Blunstone CD there once.
If you hate NoVA, PB, you should try and move into DC. The record store situation isn't great beyond the ones mentioned, but there's loads more happening than in Alexandria. I live just off 18th Street, and aside from the infiltration of the Bridge and Tunnel crowds on the weekends, it's a certified good time.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
I came across it last night in the George Pelecanos book I'm reading, Soul Circus. (Wonder if he knows about the store I mentioned above...)
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)
Joe's is closer to Rockville now, but not far from it's old location. and they have a second store in Baltimore.
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)
There used to be a store called New Wax Unlimited at 407 Rhode Island Ave. NE that had old soul vinyl. I think the owner died and the place closed up.
― Steve-k (Steve K), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)
"Record Time"
by Troy Holland
Tampa, Fla., 1971. The girl next door (Theresa, I think) leads me into her room. She's 6, and I'm a 7-year-old yard ape whose main interests are catching lizards, playing with matches and banging on trees with ball-peen hammers.
She lifts the red plastic lid on the tiny phonograph and puts on the small 45 rpm single. With no older siblings to initiate me, music up to this point of my life is my mother's bliss during Steve and Edie duets on "Carol Burnett," and my father's mysterious yearning during the Sons of the Pioneers' "Cool Water." The Beatles might've broken up the year before, but I've never heard of them.
So I'm immediately grabbed by the beat that comes blaring out of the little speaker. When Elvis Presley begins to sing, he sounds good to me, though I don't know enough to realize how great he is. Then Scotty Moore's stacatto guitar riff enters the chorus of "Jailhouse Rock," and the song lights up my nervous system like a Christmas tree. I'm transported completely.
I've never recovered. Over the years my requirements have changed, but such moments are what I seek every time I listen to music. Which is pretty frequent, because I'm what Freud might've called aurally fixated.
If your fixation -- like mine -- manifests itself in a lust for 7-, 10- and 12-inch vinyl records, then the D.C. area is a good place to regress. Though roughly a decade has passed since the compact disc dethroned the LP, Washington boasts a number of new and used vinyl stores, stocking everything from vintage jazz sides to homemade rock to the latest European dance music. And, interestingly, vinyl sales have been rising. Comparing 1993 and 1995, yearly record sales nearly doubled, growing by 1 million to 2.2 million, according to the Recording Industry Association of America. Some credit the rise to huge bands like Pearl Jam who release albums on vinyl prior to CD versions. Even so, vinyl has maintained stealthy strongholds in the worlds of jazz, classical, indie-rock and dance music, and has lately received a boost from the Internet. Though not yet a revolt of audio Luddites, it's not bad for a format that seemed headed for obscurity.
To which you might say: "So what? CDs sound a lot better."
Looking back though, it wasn't so much sound, as it was ease that made the CD predominant. Compact discs didn't liberate music lovers from bad sound, they liberated music lovers from involvement. If the listener was a cook whose attentive flipping provided sustenance, CDs were TV dinners. You simply "popped them in" and soon they were done.
But if you were a lacquerhead with a decent stereo who took care of his records, if your removal of the outer and inner sleeves, then gentle placement of vinyl on the turntable was a kind of stereophonic foreplay, then your music was usually free of the flaws that CDs claimed to conquer. "Records didn't sound bad," says Fluffy Centner of Orpheus Records in Georgetown. "It was records that were treated badly that sounded bad, and that was the owner's fault, not the record's."
Though it's easy to find music lovers who question digital sound's superiority, CDs clearly have some advantages. They're harder to scratch or warp, they take up less room, their track-cueing capability is helpful in making tapes and they possess the rarely utilized ability to hold more than 80 minutes of music per disc. Still, do these strengths add up to a $ 16.98 list price? Especially in light of recent press reports estimating that CDs may last only 15 to 20 years? "I'm not sure it's the medium it's cracked up to be," says Centner. "Records have shown they'll stand the test of time."
Outta Sight...
Visual appeal was another test that records aced over CDs. There was something about the oversize presence of LPs -- the elaborate art and typography, the double and triple gatefold sleeves, the posters and booklets -- that had a cool synergy. Adds Centner, "Not just fancy covers either, simple ones like 'Yellow Submarine' just looked bigger big."
Like the Rolling Stones' 1968 LP "Sticky Fingers," with its suggestive cover photo of Mick Jagger's fly. But since that risque zipper has been ridiculously shrunk on CD, Mick probably feels a little...little.
He isn't alone. Consider Reid Miles's classic designs for the Blue Note jazz label. Or the loopy liner-note riddles of Bob Dylan's early records or the storybook of the Beatles' "Magical Mystery Tour."
But one vinyl refuge -- indie-rock -- has mixed the old aesthetic with a do-it-yourself energy, resulting in bands who customize their records in some way. "Being involved in all the steps of the process...where you have to sit down and make 2,000 'somethings,' just shows that people really do care about their records," says Kristin Thomson of the band Tsunami -- and the Arlington based indie-label Simple Machines.
The personal touch of an indie release is a natural extension of a scene that answers more to individual creativity than to the call of the mass market. And that can mean anything from recycling and altering old LP sleeves found at Goodwill, to engraving jokes and Zen parables where only stock numbers used to exist, near the out-grooves of a record.
Such efforts aren't easy. "Grenadine's first single was probably the most complicated package we've had," says Thomson. "It had a strip of cloth wallpaper about two inches wide that was closed by a huge gold medallion sticker. And that was sealed with an embosser that notary publics use. Then we put sticky stars on each one. It took forever to put it all together."
Currently Thomson is considering home-printing the sleeve of Tsunami's next single by using the antiquated but very distinct letterpress technique. "I really like seeing hand-decorated or homemade things. Most of the time they're really beautiful."
For the the old 45's hip descendant -- the 7-inch single -- unusual art is the norm. As with LPs, many bands go the colored vinyl route, with nifty clear or marbled variations. And often there's a clever gamesmanship present. "Split-singles" feature different bands on the opposite sides of the same record, sometimes covering each other's songs. Other singles mimic the sequencing of albums, only in a compressed way. On "Tommy in 7 Minutes," the musicians on the Vital Music label do indeed do the Who's rock opera "Tommy" in 7 minutes, even throwing in a Beatles cover on the B-side. Or Coat-Tail Records's "Sixty Second" compilation, where 10 widely varied bands are each given one minute.
Many collector "zines" come with singles as well -- often splits -- showcasing artists in that particular issue. Most are as limited as the circulation of the magazines they appear in.
And it's not uncommon for singles to have bonus tracks tacked on the end of a B-side. Pavement's recent 7-inchers -- "Pacific Trim" and "Stereo" -- each came with a bonus tune available on vinyl only.
Though some records end up more appealing as artifacts than music, 7-inch singles can be especially anthropological. Since production costs can be kept under one dollar per single, many bands who might never make a record get heard. For three or four bucks you can gain access to music scenes of distant places, as with "If the Blizzards Don't Get You the Mosquitos Will," which captures nine Finnish bands in action.
The Price Is Right
One plus for analog loyalists is that new music is cheaper. Imports can be $ 20, jazz audiophile vinyl can run $ 14 and chain-stores with token quantities are usually higher than elsewhere. But generally, new vinyl at independent shops averages $ 8 to $ 9 for single LP domestic releases. Many American indie labels -- Dischord, TeenBeat, Matador, Drag City, Skin-Graft, Touch and Go, Emperor Jones, Thrill Jockey, Quarterstick and others -- do mail order.
Hot Wax...
Though new wax is relatively cheap, the collector's desire for rarity does amazing things to the price of some vinyl. The mark-up involves first- and limited-edition pressings, in good shape of course. Packaging also plays a part, as with the Beatles' rare and coveted "Butcher Block" LPs: "I found [mine] for $ 120," says Orpheus's Centner. "It was originally priced at $ 150, but I got him down to $ 120."
Being as famous as the Beatles is helpful, but since this type of collecting is a subculture comprised of aficionados, often the "stars" whom collectors spend lots of cash on are not hugely famous, as George Gelestino, owner of the Silver Spring record store Vinyl Ink, explains. "My booth at a record convention in New York was next to [Sonic Youth guitarist] Thurston Moore. He had a box of 30 to 40 original Sun Ra sides...in beautiful shape, all hand-decorated, all dating from the 1940s, the cheapest being like $ 30 and going on up to $ 200...They were all gone within an hour."
Yet when a smaller band -- with a multiple, but limited back catalogue -- suddenly appears on the brink of larger fame, prices can skyrocket. Take, for example, Guided by Voices. In the early '90s the Dayton, Ohio, rock group's self-released records languished in the cutout bins of its hometown stores. But then the band was signed to a label and began to gather a sizable fan base consisting of just the type of collectors willing to pay for what they love. Suddenly, an EP the band literally couldn't give away was being sold for a cool $ 100, and certain 7-inch singles were going for $ 30 apiece.
But it was the GBV album "Propeller" that was the real savings bond. Limited to 500 original copies, hand-numbered and decorated by the band members prior to their success, it's long since been snatched up and isn't changing hands too often. All of this real-estate-like activity comes at a point when Guided by Voices is still relatively small but growing. Should they fulfill the expectations of wider fame, that cutout copy that cost $ 3 in 1993 could acquire a couple of extra zeros.
Is That a Record or a Doormat?
While scratchy records are cool as sampled backgrounds for some music, they're not what the used-vinyl buyer is looking for. Most stores that carry vinyl have used vinyl as well. Usually, apart from normal wear, the condition of the records is good. In many cases people have sold their whole collections to stores, and some excellent copies can be found. Just recently, I was blissed to discover a cache of hard to find John Fahey records in excellent condition at a great price. But there is some used vinyl that -- as you tilt it to the light -- seems to have been chiseled on by over-caffeinated Neanderthals. Which leads to this scenario: The vinyl fiend sees the old Ventures LP, sleeve in great condition. It's "Walk, Don't Run, Vol. 2," the one with the uber-cheesy photo of the band sprawled in the wake of the beehive babe in chartreuse tights...His pulse quickens...It's pressed in the thick, seemingly extra-tough vinyl common to the '60s. He tilts, and the surface refracts in a spider-web of abuse. Aaargh!
It's smart to visually inspect before buying. Most prices reflect condition as well, so watch out for those $ 2 ones.
Two Turntables and a Microphone...
Though the CD is today's most popular format, it's in the world of electronic dance music that -- thanks to the DJ -- things get truly ironic. English dance artists like Goldie, Photek and the Aphex Twin create music largely on computer, building rhythmic patterns of drum machines, sequencers and synthesizers. This high-tech music's main avenues of dispersal are dance clubs where DJs who mix the tracks have attained performer-like status. "They take the best part of the record, and just work it," explains Sam the Man Brown of Washington's Twelve Inches Dance Music. "Working" or "mixing" however, can't be done on CDs. So this particularly futuristic sounding music is released on -- that's right -- good old analog vinyl. "This is stuff that's recorded almost exclusively digital," muses Mark Sullivan, a frequent music history teacher for the Smithsonian's Resident Associates program. "And a lot of it is available as vinyl only...which is the strangest concept in the world."
Typically such artists press up small runs of 12-inch singles, hoping to generate enough of a buzz to be picked by one of the European labels that often compile the tracks on CD to sell domestically or abroad. But many of the singles are imported to D.C. stores like Twelve Inches in Dupont Circle, or Music Now in Georgetown, where they fuel the dance scene here. "But it's not just imports," explains David Javate, Music Now sales manager. "There's a growing dance market in the States...it's always been there, but it's getting even bigger."
That's partly due to stores like Music Now and Twelve Inches, that release vinyl by local and regional DJs on their own in-house labels.
Hardcore UFOs...
There's a pop maxim that says you can learn a lot just by looking at someone's record collection. But one mark of the die-hard collector is the schizophrenic air his collection can have. These are people -- myself included -- whose appetites for sound have them grooving to the dense feedback of the Dead C or the shrieking electron streams of Merzbow. While most people would flee the room, it's precisely this openness to all forms that makes the collector just as happy to hear Patsy Cline.
Mark Sullivan is like that. With him talk may shift from current styles -- "Atari Teenage Riot is one of the hardest things out there right now" -- to bizarre '60s kitsch. "Have you heard of Mrs. Miller?...She was this big Italian mother who put out an album of incredibly awful covers: 'Downtown,' 'Catch a Falling Star,' 'A Hard Day's Night,' [all] horrendous, operatic versions of pop tunes."
Though many enjoy such anti-entertainment thrills, collectors often take it to another level. "It all started with Nancy Sinatra," Sullivan says. "My friends started teasing me about 'These Boots Are Made for Walkin.' Now when they run into a new version, they send it to me. I've got 35 or 36 different ones...and only two or three are any good at all....I've got a ska version, a Trombones Unlimited version...Megadeth doing a metal version...Loretta Lynn, the Carter Family and Mrs. Miller."
Don't Drop It, Be-Bop It
Given the abstract complexity of the best of it, jazz is a music that requires serious listening. Anyone who'll follow John Coltrane through the 13 intense minutes of musical origami that link the opening and closing phrases of "Impressions" isn't looking to hear any Kenny G. But a big part of it, apart from the music itself, is the acoustical space that it was recorded, and exists, in. Many of the Blue Note albums of the hard bop era -- recorded by Rudy Van Gelder in a home studio in Hackensack, N.J. -- had a warmth of tone and sense of space that set Blue Note apart from other labels.
This happened because the old technology captured a performance by transferring its continuous sound waves -- or "analogs" -- onto the grooves of a record. But digital sound captured music by rapidly "sampling" it. Every second in a piece of music was sliced into thousands of pieces that a computer would later reassemble. And since space existed between these sampled musical fragments, the computer would fill in. This -- according to some jazz buffs -- exchanged the original warmth of the music for a cold, shrill sound.
Though many claimed to hear no difference, some of the first artists who recorded completely digitally -- like the high-tech pop singer Peter Gabriel -- returned to analog recording with those very complaints. "[There was] an improvement period for CDs," says Joe Lee, owner of Joe's Record Paradise in Aspen Hill. "[And] a pretty bad reaction in the industry...[they] had to go back and say, 'What are we doing wrong?'"
Fortunately for jazz fans, the answer to that question was the reissuing of many of the era's albums on vinyl. In some cases, 180-gram audiophile vinyl.
The Holy Grail
And did you ever wonder how stores get all that vintage vinyl in the first place? Sure, some people bring crates of the stuff in, but it's not always that easy, as Lee explains:
"A friend of mine calls me from Fort Worth and says, 'Get down here! There's 80,000 LPs that look great!' So I immediately fly down and the seller is the son of a collector who had never missed a sale or a close-out, from 1958 onward. It's unbelievable. There's everything... the Freedom Travelers...flawless Mingus Dynasty records...tons of good blues, semi-obscure soul groups...Most of the records are in racks, but the real treasures are in boxes that haven't been opened in 15 years...I open one and find 50 copies of the Isley Brothers 'It's Your Thing,' their best album ever, sealed."
Lee's reverence is shared by collectors everywhere who know music as something more than a pleasant diversion. And while commercial radio reduces expression to a formula, vinyl collecting can be an entry into the authentic art of sound. Once you've heard the similarities between Mississippi Delta blues and the music of the Tuken people of Kenya, or noted the likeness of a techno track to Balinese gamelan music, then you see music as more than entertainment. It's a fundamental human need worth exploring in all its varieties.
But hey, don't take me too seriously. Anyone who pontificates about a dated technology must be stuck like a record. You probably should switch to CDs now. Go ahead, sell off that vinyl! It's too fragile. It doesn't sound as good. It's the past, Jeeves...Now is the time! Especially if you have an original Velvets and Nico with the peel-able banana!...Or a mono copy of "Blonde on Blonde"!...Or a scratch-free Ventures LP!...Or...
THEY TAKE PLASTIC
These area stores stock serious vinyl.
THE DISTRICT
MUSIC NOW -- House, Eurotechno, jungle, trance and acid jazz. 3209 M St. NW, 202/338-5638.
NEW WAX UNLIMITED -- All genres. 407 Rhode Island Ave. NE, 202/635-3507.
ORPHEUS RECORDS -- All genres. 3249 M St. NW, 202/337-7970.
PHANTASMAGORIA -- All genres. 1619 Connecticut Ave. NW, 202/462-8886.
SAM "K" RECORDS -- R&B, jazz and gospel. 1839 Seventh St. NW, 202/234-6540.
TWELVE INCHES DANCE RECORDS -- 12-inch dance singles and remixes. 2010 P St. NW, 202/659-2010.
MARYLAND
FERNDALE OLDIES RECORDS -- All genres. 7176 Baltimore-Annapolis Blvd., Baltimore, 410/760-1205.
JOE'S RECORD PARADISE -- All genres, with a good selection of jazz and blues. 13822 Georgia Ave., Aspen Hill, 301/460-8394.
MEMORY LANE MUSIC -- Oldies from 1903 to the present. 2817 Walters Lane, Forestville, 301/568-5044.
MODERN MUSIC -- All forms of electronic dance music: ambient, acid jazz, techno, drum 'n' bass and more. 2905 O'Donnell St., Baltimore, 410/675-2172.
MUSIC LIBERATED -- Rock, calypso, reggae, gospel, 12-inches. 201 W. Saratoga St., Baltimore, 410/837-1000.
PHANTASMAGORIA -- All genres. 11308 Grandview Ave., Wheaton, 301/949-8886.
RECORD AND TAPE EXCHANGE -- All genres. 8147-D Baltimore Blvd., College Park, 301/345-9338. Also at 901 Bayridge Rd., Annapolis, 410/267-0462.
RECORD COLLECTIONS INC. -- Classical, jazz, rock. 523 N. Charles St., Baltimore, 410/528-1616.
REPTILIAN RECORDS AND COMICS -- Indie and alternative. 403 South Broadway, Baltimore, 410/327-6853.
ROADHOUSE OLDIES -- R&B, soul, doo-wop. 958 Thayer Ave., Silver Spring, 301/587-1858.
VINYL INK -- Alternative, indie, punk, experimental, techno LPs and 7-inch singles, and a used section featuring jazz and other genres. 955 Bonifant St., Silver Spring, 301/588-4695.
YESTERDAY AND TODAY RECORDS -- All genres. 1327-J Rockville Pike, Rockville, 301/279-7007.
VIRGINIA
RECORD CONVERGENCE -- Classic and vintage rock, progressive and alternative, jazz. 4005 Chestnut St., Fairfax, 703/385-1234.
RECORD MART -- All genres. 217 King St., Alexandria, 703/683-4583.
RECORD AND TAPE EXCHANGE -- All genres. 9448 Main St., Fairfax, 703/425-4256.
MAIL ORDER
METRO MUSIC -- Classic and indie rock from a Silver Spring company. 301/622-2473.
OUT OF PRINT RECORD LOCATOR -- Specializes in all genres of LPs -- except hard rock and classical -- from 1970 and before. Baltimore, 410/358-3033.
QUALITY VINYL & CD OUTLET -- A Chantilly-based non-retail, mail-order only business. All genres. 60-page catalogue. 703/327-4809.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)
nah, there's some good stuff at cd/game exchange, crooked beat, and ethio sound in adams morgan. joe's record paradise in rockville, too. cdepot in college park. but yeah, overall you'd be better advised just to hoof it up to bmore if that's an option.
― The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing your dog to pose wi (tee, Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.dailycandy.com/article.jsp?ArticleId=26182&city=11
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)
oh and smash in gtown if yr in the market for olde punk stuff and don't mind paying for it at gtown-appropriate rates.
― The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing your dog to pose wi (tee, Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)
and it sure seemed pretty expensive to me when i was buyin alien sex fiend imports there ~ 10 yrs ago!
― ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)
Has anyone been to this new place yet?
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 8 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)
revive
Here I am. Is there anything left here? Yesterday & Today? Georgetown? Mostly looking for used vinyl.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago)
No vinyl in Georgetown--try Crooked Beat in Adams Morgan or Orpheus Records outside the city in Arlington.
If you can do without vinyl, visit me at CD Warehouse on 30th and M in Georgetown!
― lou, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago)
haha I love how this eventually became the "baltimore record stores" thread. i've been going to shows in D.C. for 10 years but have never found a record store that i've liked or felt the need to remember or go back to. maybe if I was jonesing for some Go-Go CD's.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago)
There are a few new places that have opened in the past year or two.
Som Records is at 14th and T, all used vinyl (maybe a few new things, but not many.) Good selection of jazz, decent pop/rock selection, and he also tries to find good reggae and international stuff. I think he goes to Brazil here and there to dig for stuff to bring back. Has a fair amount of 45s, too. Som can be a bit pricey, if you're used to finding stuff for $3 or less. Most records run from $6 to $20, depending on what it is of course.
Red Onion Records and Books is another fairly new place, located at 18th street around that giant yuppie-paradise Mexican place, Lauriol Plaza (a little past 18th and U, maybe 18th and T or something?) Not as good a selection as Som, at least the few times I've been there, though I've had some excellent finds. Also a bit pricey if you're used to really cheap places. The owner is an incredibly nice guy, chat with him a bit if you go. He also sells used cds for decent prices, and I've found some great stuff in his cd shelves. I haven't really looked at his book selection but people have said it's pretty good, small, but good.
Smash moved from Georgetown to 18th in Adams Morgan, same selection of mostly punk/some indie/some classic rock/some metal, used/new cds and vinyl.
Crooked Beat has been around for a few years, also located on 18th in Adams Morgan. The guy keeps a very well-curated store if you're looking for indie, there really isn't a better place as far as I know for indie rock in DC. Has a few experimental records that cross over into the indie nexus. Really good selection of new cds, some new vinyl. Again, used vinyl is pricey and he doesn't miss a mark in terms of pricing - so there won't be many cheap finds that he underprices b/c he's not familiar with it. I like going here though b/c he really makes an effort to keep his store well-stocked and well-organized.
Then there are the CD/Game Exchanges, located at various points in the city. I always find at least something interesting (mostly used cds), but good vinyl is hard to find here because they take any and all crap. If you do find something good here, though, it's usually not any more expensive than $4 or so.
I haven't ventured outside of the district except for library surplus or thrift stores. Joe's Record Paradise (I think that's what it's called?) is in Rockville, I think, but I don't know if it's any good.
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago)
Joe's Record Paradise up in ROCKville is GREAT if you have a car.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago)
oh yea, the CD Warehouse mentioned a couple minutes ago is okay, too, but no vinyl. they try to keep up with electronic cd releases (e.g. kompakt, mego, etc) and some indie.
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
I love ILM. Thanks, folks.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago)
i think joe's is still open, at least in rockville.
anyone know if one drop still exists?
One Drop Records & Variety 514 Florida Ave NW Washington, DC 20001
― am0n, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago)
or this one?
West Indian Record Mart 7505 New Hampshire Ave, Hyattsville, MD 20783
― am0n, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
Forgot about Melody Records in Dupont (no vinyl, sorry sleeve) - what do you all think of that place? There's something about it that I don't really like... I don't know. Too generalist, maybe? Like they have tiny, tiny amounts of a bunch of genres to the extent that they don't even scratch the surface of stuff? I kind of like the specialist shops more. Melody seems kind of like a completely generic indepedent record store, I don't know. I think only once or twice have I found exactly what I was looking for in Melody in the 6 years I've been in DC.
Though they do seem to have a lot of classical and some global stuff. Electronic section is pretty horrible, though, unless you're looking for Ultimate Trance Chill Out Vol. 26 or something.
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago)
I used to like Melody better than any other place here except CD Warehouse - it was always better than DCCD or some of the other indie shops that have come and gone. They've gone downhill some but they're still above average. Their electronic section is GREAT if you're into gay club music.
― I DIED, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago)
Just to add to Mark's excellent post: Orpheus Records is still around and kicking and worth your time for vinyl. Much larger stock than any of the DC shops and with comparable prices. It's in Virginia, but it's super-easy to get to via Metro- just take the Orange line to the Clarendon stop. It's practically right outside the Metro exit.
I'll also rep for the new-ish Red Onion on 18th. I haven't been there in a while (broke, sadly), but I've found some nice stuff there for decent prices (e.g. <i>Beach Boys Love You</i> and Phil Manzanera's <i>Diamondhead</i> on vinyl, <i>Neu 2!</i> on CD).
Som Records is larger and well managed, but in more cases than not, the albums that strike my fancy are too expensive (by my cheapo standards anyway). Still, deals can be had (found a Michael Rother solo album for five bucks for instance), so it's worth your time. The owner is a cool guy too.
― David Bachyrycz, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago)
Whoops, I see lou already mention Orpheus. Also, whoops on the botched italics.
― David Bachyrycz, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago)
i'm pretty sure one drop is still open; i walk by it but usually only during post-business hours.
haha I love how this eventually became the "baltimore record stores" thread.
dc's better for record stores these days, with the little red onion/crooked beat/nu-smash axis. i can usually go looking for stuff and come out with at least one or two things i'm interested in.
still, bmore is just leagues and leagues above.
― pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago)
the little red onion/crooked beat/nu-smash axis.
i add to that som and the 18th cd/game, and if i've got time and some money to spend, that's a great saturday afternoon for me - a decent walk, 5 record stores, amsterdam falafel at the end...
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago)
oh dude you gotta get on board the old city falafel wagon! amsterdam's gone kinda downhill lately, and their orig. chef left and took his toppings bar recipes over there. it's on columbia right by the ritmo latino.
― pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago)
oooh nice. i'll check it out.
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago)
DC falafel thread
― I DIED, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago)
i would trade b-more's record stores for d.c.'s food options in a heartbeat
― am0n, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago)
-- am0n, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:48 PM (6 hours ago)
I used to go there and to the nearby Simba Music, 1333 Holton Lane, Langley Park (near a Post Office), but work and family has kept me from making the trip over from Virginia lately. When I just called West Indian Record Mart the phone number was disconnected. West Indian Record Mart was always expensive except for dancehall mixtapes. Simba is still open--they sell mostly African music but also sell some Caribbean stuff. African videos and dvds are big there. The owner used to travel to Paris periodically and bring back cds and videos from there. I've heard from two folks who worked for distributors in NY peeved allegations that Simba sells pirated copies of legit African import cds, but everything I bought there did not appear to include 3rd generation photocopy sleeves or whatever.
That part of Maryland is also close enough (if you have a car) to go to P.A. Palace, a go-go and hiphop store that I think still exists in PG Plaza strip mall.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
wow. just got back from Joe's and I am stunned with disbelief about the stuff I found there. unbelievably underpriced O Yuki Conjugate LP, Linton Kwesi Johnson LPs I'd been searching for for years, the freakin' Second Layer EP on Cherry Red in the rare section... wow. One of the best vinyl stores I've been to in years.
Crooked Beat was cool, the guy was super nice, but I couldn't find anything I really wanted. Then I went next door to Smash and found a bunch of drastically underpriced stuff lke Danielle Dax vinyl and an awesome old Some Bizarre comp. Also picked up this super Link Wray LP on Polydor. The Ethio Sounds store was closed, unfortunately.
we would have gone to Orpheus also but we missed it coming in on the highway and didn't have time to backtrack. maybe next time.
Thanks again for the advice folks, I am a happy record collector today.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago)
I'm still trying to figure out if West I. RM has shut down, or just changed their phone #.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 05:13 (seventeen years ago)
i really need to hit up joe's record paradise
― Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago)
thanx for the one drop/west indian info. i'm gonna try to make the rounds in the area late december. probably joe's too.
― am0n, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago)
made it to old city cafe last night -- yes, very very good, might be better than amsterdam. the basket helps a lot - i was able to fit in a whole lot more toppings than i've ever been able to at amsterdam, and they actually give you forks!! no tiny toothpick things! there's more seating too, not as crammed. i'd like to try the other things they offer on the menu, too.
oh yea, went to crooked beat, picked up a few nice things. shellac's 'action park', angels of light "sing other people, "gybe's 'levez vos skinny fists' which was pricy but i've been meaning to have that on vinyl for the past 6 years.
he had all 3 om albums in, which i already have on cd. seeing all that lovely vinyl really made me want them though. i was able to resist.
― Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago)
falafel + records, always fun.
― Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago)
That does sound good.
I still have not made it over to Langley Park to see if the West Indian Record Mart is still open. I used to see it listed on some dancehall and other reggae flyers, but I did not see it on some recent flyers/postcards I saw online at a dc dancehall website. The phone number is still disconnected. Google only shows references to their 30th anniversary from several years back.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago)
Lots of folks were at the Black Cat Garage sale. It was not the best atmosphere for flipping through vinyl and cds--too crowded and dark if you ask me. SOM and others had tables.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:58 (seventeen years ago)
i didn't even know that was going no, though i don't always keep track of DC happenings. sounds cool though. how were the prices? i'd imagine places would jack them up a little for something like that.
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago)
going *on, not going "no" obv.
West Indian Record Mart in Takoma Park/or is it Langley Park is definately closed. I went to Simba Records, on Holton Lane off of New Hampshire Ave, near University earlier this afternoon, and after I purchased something there, asked about it and the Simba clerk said they've been clsoed for awhile. AmOn, Simba has some reggae but not nearly as much as WIRM once had, and it sadly has none of the dancehall mixes WIRM used to have. Simba sells lots of cds for $16---For some African imports from France that's not bad, for soca or reggae from NYC area labels that's not so good. Simba now has a website-- simbamusic.net
Found postcards at Simba for events I did not know about---Zouk singer Nichols with local Haitian band Rafrechi at Cafe Peju/Juste Loung in Bethesda December 24th, Congolese gospel (!) in Silver Spring, December 24th and January 5th dancehall djs at Settings...
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 December 2007 05:00 (seventeen years ago)
mavado's at crossroads tonight and last night they had some weird line-up of shop boyz and stone love sound!?
i couldn't make it out to any of those stores but i did go to joe's yesterday. their vinyl section is still killer, just as big as it ever was, if not bigger. i even bought a couple of old dancehall disco 12" 45s and i don't even have anything to play them on.
― am0n, Sunday, 23 December 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago)
Wasn't there a decent Baltimore reggae/dancehall store once?
Simba does not have vinyl.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 24 December 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago)
There used to be three record stores at the corner of Saratoga and Park in Baltimore (roughly 4 blocks north of the Inner Harbor).
One was owned by DJ Technics, who went to online delivery: http://www.baltimoreclubtracks.com (although you can still catch some of his vinyl at the local flea market). His store was mostly about Baltimore Club, House and Hip-Hop - not much there for Reggae fans.
Across the street on Saratoga, however, was Music Liberated, which shuttered its doors shortly after its owner died. Used to be one of, if not the best source for Reggae records in Baltimore(I really only went there for Baltimore Club but I almost always came away with at least one Dancehall jem).
The only one left is Dimensions In Music, which got a LOT of Liberated's catalog when the store closed. I haven't been there in more than a year, but when I called, the guy I talked to said they still have a decent selection of older stuff on vinyl.
Its at 233 Park (at the corner of Saratoga and Park) in Baltimore, 410-752-7121.
― Nehesi, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 00:57 (seventeen years ago)
went to dimensions a few months back and i don't buy vinyl but he seems to have a good amount, and more upstairs i think. cd selection not that great and overpriced, but i did spot a used RaHoWa cd which was kinda lol
― am0n, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:10 (seventeen years ago)
According to a blog comment on the City Paper music blog, this is the final weekend for Orpheus Records in Arlington
3173 Wilson Blvd Arlington, VA 22201 (703) 294-6774
― curmudgeon, Friday, 14 March 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)
there's about to be a new one, Rod Lee opening a Club Kingz outlet at 232 Park, right across the street from Dimensions In Music. at least I think it's not open already, I'd been told it was gonna be ready late last year but every time I drive by the storefront there's no indication that it's open for business yet.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 14 March 2008 14:44 (seventeen years ago)
Orpheus's landlord gave them a reprieve for a few more weeks.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 March 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)
Wanted to go to Simba today, but no one is answering their phone, the message does not list their hours, and you can't leave a message. I read a recent Gazzette article about the store so I know it is still in business. I guess they are just not open Sunday afternoons.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 October 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)
― The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing your dog to pose wi (tee, Thursday, September 7, 2006 6:13 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I knew that cd/game exchange had closed but until my visit Saturday to 18th st. (trying Ethio restaurant Awash for lunk. It's ok) I did not know Ethio Sound had closed. Has it moved elsewhere? ZR used to go but he's not here on ilx much anymore. Pete, do you know?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 January 2009 14:51 (sixteen years ago)
That's lunch
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 January 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)
cd game x is closed? i used to work there in college (the tenley shop). just the 18th one or all of them?
― mark cl, Monday, 5 January 2009 15:07 (sixteen years ago)
18th St. one in Adams Morgan is closed. I don't know about the others.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 January 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)
The CD/Game Exchanges in Tenleytown and AM both closed, I think, due to some violations about selling beverages without a license. Something like that. It's really unfortunate, as they had incredible dollar bins.
― deusner, Monday, 5 January 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)
dont know about ethio sound! lemme do a lil checking...
― 69, Monday, 5 January 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)
Never been to Washington or Baltimore, but I'm in DC for 5 days from Saturday night.
Joe's Record Paradise sounds tempting, but how feasible is a trek from Washington - on a Sunday, mind - with public transport as my only option??
― gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 12:23 (sixteen years ago)
Ah... just realised that it's the Rockville store that was being mentioned above, which looks like it'd be tricky without a car.
But is it worth the trip to Baltimore anyway? Is there one particular area with a heap of record stores?
― gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)
u don't have a car? not sure if it's worth trekking up to baltimore on the marc train just for records, i'd maybe just stick around the dc stores (also the marc train doesn't run on sundays, i don't think)
― mark cl, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)
Yea, without a car it might be difficult to get to those locations. You might have to stick with SOM records (occasionally pricey vinyl and more) at 14th & U St, and Crooked Beat in Adams Morgan and Red Onion. I think Roadhouse Oldies is still in Silver Spring of old r'n'b vinyl or cds is one of your things. I don't think getting to Simba (African, reggae, and Caribbean cds and dvds mostly) out in suburban MD/DC is possible by public transport that easy.
The Duke Ellington fest tribute to New Orleans is free on the mall the weekend of June 13 and 14th, area dance club events might be happening also(see the "I Died" posts on the Capital Swamp thread, and there's generally plenty of indie-rock,and more also.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)
(also the marc train doesn't run on sundays, i don't think)
This is true.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:42 (sixteen years ago)
nor saturday
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)
dc's record-buying options are a lot better than they were a few years ago. if you're in adams morgan/dupont, then yeah, crooked beat, smash (both on 18th, really close to each other), red onion (18th & T, i'll be working on sunday, stop in and say hey if you're buyin stuff. closed this saturday for a wedding though), then over to 14th and T to hit som. dj hut, maybe, depending on what you're into. roadhouse oldies is still around in silver spring, and cdepot in college park is once again carrying vinyl. college park also has cd/game exchange which tends to kinda suck but you can make a really good score there once in a blue moon.
i like baltimore stores a bunch and if it's not too huge a pain in the ass it's worth going there. there are a few clustered around fells point - own guru, el suprimo, and soundgarden, which is carrying a lot more vinyl these days (although it's pretty much all new/reissue stuff, they do have good cheap prices), if you make it up to hampden there's true vine, and if you dig dance & hip hop hit up dimensions in music.
― pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)
― gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:23 AM
you can take metro to rockville station and there should be a couple ride-on buses that go by joe's as it's like 5 min drive from the station. check bus 59 and 48, taft/southlawn/gude is pretty much the intersection where joe's is locatedhttp://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/tsvtmpl.asp?url=/content/dot/transit/routesandschedules/allroutes/route059.asphttp://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/tsvtmpl.asp?url=/content/dot/transit/routesandschedules/allroutes/route048.asp
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:58 (sixteen years ago)
dj hut, maybe, depending on what you're into.
dj hut RIP :(
― sussing out the Slick Hustler (I DIED), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:02 (sixteen years ago)
o rly?
― pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:09 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, a couple months ago. Keeping their online store, though, which is pretty good and does digital downloads:
http://www.djhut.com/
― sussing out the Slick Hustler (I DIED), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)
scratch #48 it would drop u too far from joe's. #59 is the one u want (intersection of southlawn and gude)
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)
right on, amon! and thanks pretzel walrus for details of the other shops. my apartment is on 15th Street NW, which doesn't look too far away, so I'll probably call in.
I'm also thinking I might polish off 1 x Bill Cosby’s Original Chili Half-Smoke ($5.20) for all my hard work.
― gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:16 (sixteen years ago)
So with Melody RIP as of last week, the District's got SOM, Smash, Red Onion, Crooked Beat and Joint Custody (which I want to check out, but never seems to be open when I do my rounds). I need to visit the new Metro-accessible Joe's Record Paradise, too.
Is there anything else out there? Any must-see flea's or thrift shops?
― a-lo, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)
I think Roadhouse Oldies is still open, it's not far from Joe's Record Paradise. I think dc go-go outlet P.A. Palace still has 2 stores in Maryland in Forestville Mall and Iverson Mall.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)
roadhouse oldies moved like a block at some point in the last few years, still great tho. when i was 15 or 16 i was buying a copy of superfly on lp there and the dude behind me in line looks me right in the eye and asks, "white boy, what the fuck you know about 'freddie's dead'?"
― adam, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)
SOM is good! A few people have mentioned that it was on the pricier side, which I could see, but the selection is good, which is more important to me. I grabbed the Ramones' End of the Century in great condition for $8, which I thought was fair.
― 1986 Olive Garden (Z S), Monday, 19 March 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)
I've got to second SOM, really a great store -- maybe pricey on some things, but plenty of deals, too.
Beyond that, sounds like I need to hit Silver Spring one of these weekends for Joe's and Roadhouse Oldies.
― a-lo, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)
I think SOM is way too expensive
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)
But maybe I need to look closer for these deals others have found
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)
dont sleep on cdepot in college park guys
― 69, Monday, 19 March 2012 16:36 (thirteen years ago)
rtx. The record and tape xchange in Fairfax still lives, as does the Cd Cellar in VA
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)
rtx in fairfax is the worst imo -- my friend (red onion dude) finds some stuff at cd cellar occasionally. SOM is expensive for some things, but ive found some really awesome jazz/afro/post-punk/indie records there for mad cheap. also, if you like 7"s, neal has a MILLION that arent very picked over.
― 69, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)
nb: "jazz/afro/post-punk/indie" is intended to signify four separate genres here
― 69, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)
rtx in Fairfax is pretty picked over with not much new arrivals of stuff, but some vinyl is way cheaper than SOM. SOM afropop stuff the last time I looked was not cheap. You must have grabbed all the deals the last time you were in town.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
got a $8 copy of this guy: http://www.discogs.com/Francis-Bebey-Sanza-Nocturne/release/1713180 and a$15 copy of this guy: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Siya-Hamba-1950s-South-African-Country-And-Small-Town-Sounds/release/2118238 there over the years...
― 69, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)
:(
― I DIED, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)
Seconding 69 on College Park CDepot - I've gotten some great early 90's house/dance stuff there for super cheap, and a good copy of Bohannon's Insides Out for 25 cents!
― I DIED, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2012/06/05/red-onion-records-books-closing-in-september/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)
Ah, hell, I liked that place. Always made a point of stopping by when I was visiting home in MD.
― She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
real downer, though i can't blame josh for not keeping on if his heart's not in it anymore. i used to work there and still love checking in when i'm back in dc/md - gonna have to make it up again before he closes.
― pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)
how's it going z
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)
hey man! it's going pretty well, nc rules (recent political atmosphere aside) and i have a pool in my backyard. how're you?
― pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)
keep that vinyl away from the pool
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha
― 69, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2012/08/30/red-onion-records-books-not-closing/
Changed his mind
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)
so where should a record-store addict and vinyl lover be sure to check out in DC these days? bonus points for a good selection of psych/metal/noise/experiment/etc. many thanks in advance.
is this still basically the deal:
― alpine static, Monday, 26 August 2013 22:14 (twelve years ago)
pretty much - http://dcrecordmap.tumblr.com/ is a good visual reference. i'd be sure to stop by red onion.
joe's and record exchange in silver spring are both excellent too, though their best sections (imo) are mostly dance/go-go
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 05:10 (twelve years ago)
and actually, for psych/noise stuff, the baltimore recommendations upthread are still pretty much valid. true vine, old guru, celebrated summer...
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 05:12 (twelve years ago)
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/44717/disc-men-kemp-mill-records/
Once a big D.C. area chain, now there is only one Kemp Mills left--in Temple Hills, MD with lots of go-go and rap according to this article
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 September 2013 03:49 (twelve years ago)
Mostly all on cd
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 September 2013 03:53 (twelve years ago)
Is CD Depot at College Park walkable from the CP/UofM Metro stop?
― andrew m., Monday, 24 February 2014 21:10 (eleven years ago)
Well, it's looking like a No. Quite the trek. Guess I could bus it from the metro.
― andrew m., Monday, 24 February 2014 21:12 (eleven years ago)
yep.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 24 February 2014 22:17 (eleven years ago)
http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/01/vinyl-record-stores-in-washington-dc/
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 January 2015 04:52 (ten years ago)
A few I don't know, but i don't buy that many records these days...
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:15 (ten years ago)
I'm in the middle of a 5 week work trip to DC and I have to say, the record stores have been incredible. Som, Joint Custody and Red Onion are excellent stores. I'll definitely go back to these three stores but where else should I go?
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:38 (ten years ago)
Crooked Beat maybe, and out to Md for Joes and to Va for CD Cellar and others. Check out that metroweekly link I posted in January.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:53 (ten years ago)
Joe's Record Paradise in a Silver Spring just for the experience. It's unlike any of the others and massive.
― Walter Galt, Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:07 (ten years ago)
Whoops - er, like curmudgeon said.
― Walter Galt, Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:08 (ten years ago)
Sweet. Thanks for the tips. Think I'll try to hit joes next weekend. Metro accessible?
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:24 (ten years ago)
Yep. Here's your link: https://www.google.com/maps?ll=38.992121,-77.026942&z=15&t=m&hl=en-US&gl=US&mapclient=embed&q=8216+Georgia+Ave+Silver+Spring,+MD+20910+USA
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Sunday, 29 March 2015 22:53 (ten years ago)
Don't sleep on the Music & Game Exchange 1/2 block north of Joe's -- pulled some good stuff out of the new arrivals and $1 bins there. My boy found a Fairport test pressing in the $1 bin but it got yanked at the register.
Joint Custody has been killing it lately.
Arlington Flea Market starts up again this weekend, might go see what that's all about. I think it is Saturday morning.
― a-lo, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 02:18 (ten years ago)
Nice tips! I was thinking of making Saturday my big record hunt day so that would be convenient.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:53 (ten years ago)
but it got yanked at the register.
What do you mean? The clerk just went "whoops - that's mislabeled" or something?
I've never found anything in the Music Exchange vinyl-wise but they have tons of CDs for like .50 cents - I got some great Go-Go discs there.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 13:31 (ten years ago)
Record Exchange in Silver Spring is closed until mid-April. They're moving up to the street next to the Fillmore (condos are going up in the current space).
― Chris L, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:11 (ten years ago)
yeah, clerk said he'd already seen it and had pulled it to be looked up/marked up, though it was still sitting over by the cheap bins.
― a-lo, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)
Joe's Record Paradise was awesome. Spent 2hrs there but could have easily spent another 2. All the shops in DC have been great. Even Hill & Dale, which I wouldn't go to again, necessarily, but for what it is, where it is, it's good.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:54 (ten years ago)
In Arlington, most of us are aware of CD Cellar but brief shout out to Blue Groove in Westover.
http://www.bluegroovesoundz.blogspot.com/
― Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, 6 April 2015 12:46 (ten years ago)
http://bandwidth.wamu.org/joes-record-paradise-is-moving-again/
Lee says he found out today that the store’s landlord won’t be renewing its lease come March 2016.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 June 2015 17:39 (ten years ago)
was going to joke that they shd move back to their og space in plaza del mercado and it looks like they are
― 😭 (am0n), Thursday, 18 June 2015 17:56 (ten years ago)
red onion moving over to u street too
― Aglet, Friday, 19 June 2015 03:40 (ten years ago)
http://patch.com/virginia/oldtownalexandria/record-store-moving-dc-alexandria
Crooked Beat moving (moved?) to Old Town Alexandria.
Joe's Record Paradise will supposedly finally open in new Silver Spring location soon.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 19 August 2016 14:48 (nine years ago)