1. Sign O' the Times2. 19993. Controversy4. Dirty Mind5. Come6. Musicology
I haven't heard any others, but that will change soon. Help me out.
― Peter Tonishishon, Friday, 6 August 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)
1.Purple Rain2.19993.Around The World In A Day4.Dirty Mind5.Diamonds And Pearls6.Chaos & Disorder7.The Black Album
"Dirty Mind"s complete lack of acid-rock guitar robbed it of its otherwise-deserved #2 spot. I really do need to get "Sign o The Times" someday, considering how frequently it tops people's lists.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 6 August 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 6 August 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 6 August 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)
etc etc until
96. The Gold Experience97. NEWS98. Grafitti Bridge99. Symbol100. The Rainbow Children
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Need: Parade and new copies of Dirty Mind and Controversy.
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)
UPTOWN
This might be the best song on here. Some chick asks Prince if he's gay and he's all like "Bitch, do I look gay?" But then he thinks for a second and then he's like "Wait, don't answer that question. Just watch me rock out on this guitar here for a sec, then tell me whether or not I look gay. If you're lucky, maybe I'll let you come back stage and fellate me."
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― chris herrington (chris herrington), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― prince rules, Friday, 6 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)
I also demand that I finally get off my duff and get The Gold Experience already.
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― tricky disco, Friday, 6 August 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)
Best is a tossup between _The Gold Experience_, _Come_, and _Emancipation_ (although right now I'd say _Come_). Worst is _Chaos And Disorder_. There's something to recommend all of them, though.
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)
1 Emancipation (well about 1.5 discs of it, which were first rate)2 The Rainbow Children 3 The Truth (acoustic album given away with shoddy unreleased crystal ball anthology)
From here on, im not sure, its all odds and sods really. Like Venga said, there's usually something to recomend all of them.
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)
ok so off of the more shoddy releases, what are the good tunes? can you tell i'm being lazy and i want to catch up on a decade or more of prince that i've unjustly neglected? you can't? well, it's true.
and wasn't c&d his kiss off to warner bros?
― tricky disco, Friday, 6 August 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)
You lovely and accurate man.
Best is a tossup between _The Gold Experience_, _Come_, and _Emancipation_ (although right now I'd say _Come_)
Pretty much my take. Come is his perv industrial album.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)
1) Cant stop
2) We can funk
3) Joy in repetition
4) Thieves in the temple
5) Get off
6) Cream
7) Strollin
8) diamonds and pearls
9) Walk don’t walk
10) Money don’t matter
11) Morning papers
12) 3 chains of gold
13) Pink cashmere
14) papa
15) Dark
16) Let it go
17) Dolphin
18) Shy
19) Dinner with delores
20) Had u
21) Courting time
22) In this bed I scream
23) Soul sanctuary
24) Curious child
25) Lets have a baby
26) Holy river
27) My computer
28) One of us
29) Love we make
30) So far so pleased
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― tricky disco, Friday, 6 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)
i'm kinda shocked how 1999 hasn't even charted on some people's lists.
― tipustiger, Friday, 6 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― chuck, Friday, 6 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― chuck, Friday, 6 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)
i agree with chuck!
― ||amateur!st|| (amateurist), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)
I dunno, I think Scarlet Pussy is his best B-Side, possibly followed by Shockadelicka.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― VanquaDan (amateurist), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Distended Belly, Friday, 6 August 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― chuck, Friday, 6 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Star Hustler, Friday, 6 August 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)
1) Purple Rain2) Sign "O" the Times3) Around the World in a Day4) Parade
These are the Prince albums to own, plus a handmade compilation of the best of the rest.
― JoB (JoB), Friday, 6 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― ||amateur!st|| (amateurist), Friday, 6 August 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)
This is why the whole exercise is so pointless. Prince = God.
Aside from a few obvious clunkers ("Chaos and Disorder"/turkeys) trying to rank Prince is like tring to rank life - so much good and bad and ultimately as essential and ungraspable as the air we breathe to live.
― H (Heruy), Friday, 6 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)
or its like paying 7 bucks for a used CD when you were in high school, later seeing Hits 1 and realizing that you already own the full-lengths of the songs you'd actually want to hear and not feeling like coughing up a lot of cash to get the B-Sides (which is only available with the full 3cd set). Hits 2 gives me some radio edits of tracks I have the LPs for and choice singles from his lesser albums. Plus "Peach" and "Pope."
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)
Erotic CityShockadelicaIrresistable BitchScarlet PussyLa,La,La, He, He, HeeShe's Always In My Hair17 DaysHow Come You Don't Call Me Anymore?Another Lonely Christmas
and its more consistent than any patch on either Hit cd
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ce Ce Peniston, Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)
after that, it's spotty. There really should be a CD of the extended-mix B-sides. "Love or Money" has always been my fave of those, actually.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)
1. Purple Rain2. Sign "O" The Times3. Parade4. 19995. Around The World In One Day6. Controversy7. Dirty Mind8. Lovesexy9. Diamonds And Pearls10.Come11.Emancipation12.Black Album13.(Symbol)
99.Batman
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 7 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 8 August 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Although I still thing Illusion, Coma, etc is better than anything on Batman.
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 8 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)
**if any of you kind gentlemen or ladeez has an extra copy for whatever reason, email me!!
― Vic (Vic), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Race to the bottom...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)
as far as batman being half decent as it was recorded in a few weeks all by prince on his lonesome, isnt that how most of his albums were made?
― splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 8 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 8 August 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 8 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― bugged out, Sunday, 8 August 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 8 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)
1. Purple Rain2. Sign "o" Times
But maybe this thread will help me decide which one to get next.
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 9 August 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 9 August 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Monday, 9 August 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 9 August 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 9 August 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― piscesboy, Monday, 9 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm going to change my mind as soon as I post this.
― babyalive (babyalive), Monday, 31 October 2005 05:19 (nineteen years ago)
― retroboy, Monday, 31 October 2005 09:28 (nineteen years ago)
Embarrassed to say I skipped 3121 until now, not having been a huge fan of "Black Sweat." It's good! I've decided I've got to reconsider every single album.
Anyone have a comprehensive ranking? (Calling Matos!)
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)
However I would rank them, Parade and Sign O' The Times would be at the top and the two new ones MPLSound and whatever the other one was) would be at the bottom.
― ah ah oh ooh ooh oh ah ah ah ah ah oh ah ah aha ooh (HI DERE), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
SOOTDirty MindParadeControversyPurple RainEmancipationThe Gold ExperienceSymbol Album3121Musicology
The rest
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)
oops: slip 1999 b/w Controversy and Purple Rain
Have always loved Christgau's running overview and Harris's Blender guide, though the online Blender no longer links to the actual blurbs (which you can search out individually):
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist2.php?id=1095http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/66639/every-original-cd-reviewed-prince.html
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)
1) Sign o' the Times2) Emancipation3) Love Symbol4) 19995) Controversy6) Lovesexy7) Gold Experience8) Graffiti Bridge9) Purple Rain10) Dirty Mind11) Parade12) Around the World in a Day13) Diamonds and Pearls14) Batman15) Come
― Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)
However I would rank them, Parade and Sign O' The Times would be at the top and the two new ones MPLSound and whatever the other one was) would be at the bottom.― ah ah oh ooh ooh oh ah ah ah ah ah oh ah ah aha ooh (HI DERE), Friday, January 8, 2010 7:14 PM (13 minutes ago)
― ah ah oh ooh ooh oh ah ah ah ah ah oh ah ah aha ooh (HI DERE), Friday, January 8, 2010 7:14 PM (13 minutes ago)
Pretty much this, although on certain days I may be inclined to stick Dirty Mind above SOOT. Lotusflow3r/MPLsound was quite heartbreaking in how weak it was ;_;
― unpredictable johnny rodz, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)
1999Sign O The TimesPurple RainParadeDirty Mind
The first album and the rest of the 80's stuff are tied for 6th.
― nicky lo-fi, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
1 Black2 Sign3 19994 Purp5 Contro6 0->7 World
― hardly a giant f-off pickup (Eazy), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)
I'm ashamed at how little I know of the post 80's stuff.
I know I like "7" and "Pink Cashmere"
― nicky lo-fi, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)
Oh yeah, I forgot to rate the Black Album, I guess I'd put it between Parade and AtWiaD.
― Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)
highly controversial:
1) dirty mind2) purple rain3) sign o' the times4) 19995) disc 3 of the hits/the b-sides6) 31217) love symbol8) lovesexy9) parade10) controversy11) emancipation12) rainbow children13) lotusflow3r13) planet earth
― an american hippie in israel (Jordan), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
shamefully, although 'i wanna be your lover' is one of my fave prince jams, i've never heard the debut album as a whole
― an american hippie in israel (Jordan), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
i have some 94 East shit if that makes up for it
― an american hippie in israel (Jordan), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
Oh yeah, if there was proper double-disc compilation that would collect the 12" versions of Prince's B-sides (instead of the 7" versions that appear on The Hits/The B-Sides), that would rate quite high on my list. Sadly such a thing does not exist.
― Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)
These are the one's I own
1.Dirty Mind2.Sign O' the Times3.Purple Rain4.Parade5.19996.Controversy 7.Around the World In a Day8.The Gold Experience9.Lovesexy10.Musicology11.Prince12.The Black Album13.Symbol14.Planet Earth15.Diamonds & Pearls16.312117.For You18.Batman19.Graffiti Bridge 20.Come
The B-sides disc of the hits would probably be around six in my list.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)
I gave it a go.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 August 2018 05:35 (seven years ago)
Ah hell why not
Dirty MindSign O' the TimesPurple RainParade1999PrinceControversyAround the World in a DayLovesexyBatmanDiamonds and Pearlsthe rest
― bunny slopes, Saturday, 11 August 2018 06:05 (seven years ago)
I'll rank the WB albums (and Emancipation) ...
Sign o' the TimesPurple RainLovesexy1999Dirty MindBatmanThe Gold ExperienceControversyComePrinceParadeLove SymbolEmpanciationDiamonds and PearlsAround the World in a DayChaos and DisorderFor YouGraffiti Bridge
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 August 2018 08:50 (seven years ago)
Batman, TGE abd Come above Parade is dunderheaded madness.
― An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 11 August 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
I wouldn't say that, more that it's the case that those three albums are far likelier to make it onto my stereo over Parade, which I still like.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 August 2018 23:21 (seven years ago)
omitting records I still haven't heard (rave un2) or can't remember (planet earth beyond "chelsea rogers" and "guitar"
paradesign o the times1999dirty mindpurple rainlovesexythe gold experiencecomethe truththe love symbol albumaround the world in a daycontroversyprinceemancipation3121black albumthe rainbow childrenbatmanart official agemusicologychaos and disorderfor youdiamonds and pearlsgraffiti bridgelotus flower/mplsound
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 August 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)
I did this on here in 2010. My list would be quite different now.
1. Dirty Mind2. Parade 3. Purple Rain 4. Sign "O" The Times 5. 19996. Controversy7. Prince8. The Gold Experience 9. Around The World In A Day 10. Lovesexy11. Musicology12. Come 13. The Love Symbol Album 14. The Black Album15. For You16. Diamonds & Pearls17. HitNRun Phase Two 18. Lotusflo3er19. Planet Earth20. 312121. Graffiti Bridge22. Art Official Age 23. The Rainbow Children 24. Batman25. 20Ten 26. Emancipation 27. HitNRun Phase One 28. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic 29. Chaos & Disorder 30. N.E.W.S
― kitchen person, Saturday, 11 August 2018 23:39 (seven years ago)
Nineties edition
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 October 2018 11:52 (six years ago)
Christgau's overview is pretty good, though he seems to skip a few towards the end - can't blame him because it gets dire.
It's too tough to simply rank Prince's albums because too many of them in the second half of his career are basically a single or an EP of keepers buried in chaff
How I'd break them down using Christgau's grading system:
For You - ("For You," "Soft and Wet") *Prince - ADirty Mind - A+Controversy - A1999 - APiano and a Microphone 1983 - choice cut: "Mary Don't You Weep"Purple Rain - A+Around the World in a Day - B+Parade - ASign o' the Times - A+The Black Album - ALovesexy - A-Batman - B+Graffiti Bridge - BDiamonds and Pearls - B+The Symbol Album - A-Come - choice cut: "Loose!"The Gold Experience - AChaos and Disorder - B+Emancipation - A-Crystal Ball (1997) - B+The Truth - B+Newpower Soul - choice cut: "Wasted Kisses"Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic - choice cuts: "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold," "Baby Knows," "Prettyman"The Rainbow Children - choice cuts: "The Work," "She Loves Me 4 Me"One Nite Alone - choice cut: "A Case of U"One Nite Alone...Live! - B+Musicology - B+3121 - B+Planet Earth - choice cuts: "The One U Wanna C," "Guitar," "Chelsea Rodgers"Lotusflow3r - choice cuts: "Colonized Mind," "Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful," "$"MPLSound - choice cuts: "(There'll Never B) Another Like Me," "Chocolate Box," "Dance 4 Me"Elixer - Dud20Ten - choice cuts: "Future Soul Song," "Laydown"Plectrumelectrum - DudArt Official Age - B+Hit n Run Phase One - choice cuts: "1000's of X's & O's," "June"Hit n Run Phase Two - B+Originals - A-
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:03 (five years ago)
We are mostly on the same page. Parade is an A+, Come is a B+ and there needs to be more space between HnR pt 2 which is a strong finale and AOI which is kinda lame (think I’d give the latter a C)
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:44 (five years ago)
I love "Parade" so I don't want to knock it to explain why it wasn't an A+. If the great B-side "♥ Or $" had replaced one of my less favorite tracks, I might've considered it. I never got into "Come," a lot of it just didn't work for me, but I know other Prince fans who love it. "Art Official Age" is underrated, I actually gave up on Prince by that point, but two glowing reviews - in the New Yorker and from Greg Kot in the Tribune - piqued my curiosity, especially when others were kind of down on it. I think the most common dismissal I heard was that it was Prince doing Janelle Monáe, and to an extent they're right - Prince saw how she used sci-fi concepts to explore the personal. But while he took that approach from her work, it was remarkable to hear how raw and exposed some of the lyrics were. There is plenty of levity, but on the more personal cuts like "Way Back Home" and the final affirmation, I think we got the clearest glimpse of how Prince really saw himself. Musically, this is where Prince really started to sound like an older man to me, but it works in his favor - the hint of fragility creeping into his singing gives the material more weight. So in a lot of ways, I think it's actually a key album if you want to understand Prince himself, and a B+ doesn't feel too generous in that respect.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 22:17 (five years ago)
I admit that the timbres themselves put me off AOI... it just sounds so incredibly DAW-y, with some weird stereo widener plugin sapping the color out of everything I should try it another time though, sometimes these gustatory issues just disappear
― gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 23:15 (five years ago)
I played every album from Prince to Lovesexy today with the caveat that Around the World in a Day was a different sequence I pieced together (per Questlove's suggestion in his epic album-by-album review of Prince's catalog into the '90s). It's pretty awesome to hear them back-to-back in order - his talents and what he was capable of seem to expand and grow with each release. This was even true for The Black Album which I put on after Sign 'O' the Times - for some reason it played even better at the tail end of this run. (Even the jokey anti-rap sentiments were smoothed over by the hard, lean music accompanying them.) Every single album up to this point came off great, but unfortunately that seemed to end with Lovesexy. I liked it enough to rate it an A- upthread, but after hearing it in this context, I can definitely see why detractors are down on it and why Questlove and Alan Leeds said this marked the end of his peak years. Every other album seemed to add up to something greater than the sum of its parts, and there was a forward momentum that ran through each one. That wasn't the case here - there are some great moments, and the musicianship is never less than first-rate, but it's lacking a coherent vision that either brings everything together or takes it all to another level. The "weakest" stretches are still enjoyable, but they feel like they're missing something. Unlike Questlove, I think Prince rights the ship later on, but I get the impression Prince simply had few worthy ideas during these few years and more or less relied on his talents to make listenable but lightweight music.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 4 November 2021 23:21 (three years ago)
FWIW, Around the World in a Day was this - each addition was a B-side to a single, and I used the full-length 12" mixes in each case. "Hello" is a cheat because it was recorded after the album came out, but otherwise this was a solid A to me:
Side A:1. Around the World in a Day2. Paisley Park3. Girl4. Raspberry Beret5. She's Always in My Hair
Side B:6. America7. Hello8. Pop Life9. Condition of the Heart
― birdistheword, Thursday, 4 November 2021 23:27 (three years ago)
Man I love the 12” of paisley park
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 4 November 2021 23:30 (three years ago)
I'm going to create this sequence with the 12" mixes for myself. I assume/hope you're using the 9:07 Extended Version of Pop Life, and not one of the US remixes.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 November 2021 00:44 (three years ago)
I meant the 12" versions of the B-sides - that was enough to bring the album to a full LP length, so I didn't want to go beyond that, but if you want to turn the album into a double, using ALL 12" mixes would definitely do it.
― birdistheword, Friday, 5 November 2021 00:57 (three years ago)
It's true that "Girl" and "She's Always in My Hair" are better than most of what made the LP; I'd have to include "The Ladder" in there somewhere.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:15 (three years ago)
I never liked "The Ladder" but to be fair, it's a tough track to cut - it's the center of the entire gatefold cover! I guess you could drop "Hello" to make room for "The Ladder." I have to concede there's no way "Hello" would've made it, not unless they delayed the album by a few months.
― birdistheword, Friday, 5 November 2021 18:12 (three years ago)
"Temptation" is his first lousy song.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:18 (three years ago)
xp I'd make room for "Tamborine" but that is definitely a superior version of the album you've assembled
― J. Sam, Friday, 5 November 2021 18:33 (three years ago)
I'd be happy to eliminate Tamborine, Temptation, and The Ladder from the album. They're all fairly unnecessary and minimally enjoyable.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 November 2021 18:41 (three years ago)
Tamborine >>>>>>>>>
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:45 (three years ago)
Is the Questlove reviews online anywhere anymore
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:51 (three years ago)
"Tambourine" is the best album track.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:56 (three years ago)
like if Joni Mitchell played drums
Questlove's review:
Ok. i know reviews are subjective but i think I’m right when i say the only place to go after you sell 16 million units is…..”that a way”, prince’s muses’ wendy and lisa (see “computer blue” on PR) hipped him to the Beatles. and he presented a “see i can do that too” kinda head scratcher. as a die hard i was along for the ride but many got off of the trip with this album. when it came out: @@@1/2 (many head scratched, thought he was going hippie—hello De La) how does it hold up 30 years later? @@@@1/2 some say he turnt his back on the funk. i say he turned his front on his mind. a potpourri of sound and experiments. this caused concern but really? had he closed the album on anything BUT “Temptation” idda been with giving him a @@@@@. 82-87 was his most prolific in terms of songwriting and volume and Quality. over 300 songs made during this period. and 60 percent of em were life changing. “Condition Of The Heart” is as devastating now as it was 30 years ago. also worth fishing for are the B-sides from this era…some of my favorites “she’s always in my hair,” “hello” & his trippy “Girl”.
Here's a link to the cached webpage: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Np0Tdw4paOAJ:https://www.okayplayer.com/originals/questlove-prince-warner-bros-album-guide.html/3+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 November 2021 19:01 (three years ago)
still only a little part of it
Link rot on a piece that's like 4 years old, smh
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 November 2021 19:07 (three years ago)
I'd consider these his worst songs imo.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 November 2021 02:13 (three years ago)
Stopping at 2001 is merciful, because ugh....
― birdistheword, Saturday, 6 November 2021 02:27 (three years ago)
Was listening to Lovesexy yesterday. It’s been broken up into its component songs on streaming services.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:00 (three years ago)
Was it ever broken up on the U.S. CD? I know overseas it was. For some reason it was only available via import when Prince died, and the European pressing I got had the tracks separated.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:03 (three years ago)
I think it was always one track on CD in the US. I had it on cassette anyway. It was split into two sides.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:40 (three years ago)
It's supposed to be one song, like "Thick As a Brick".
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:43 (three years ago)
I'm not saying it's the best, but Parade is the one I'm most likely to listen to today
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:47 (three years ago)
honestly there are a lot of "Rank Prince Albums" out there
― frogbs, Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:50 (three years ago)
It's one of my very favorite Prince albums. It gets plenty of love now, but I was taken aback by how underrated it was back in the day. It underperformed for an '80s Prince album in the Pazz & Jop poll (at #25, only Around the World in a Day and the Batman soundtrack did worse, everything else from Prince to Graffiti Bridge placed in the top ten), Trouser Press hated most of it and The Rolling Stone Album Guide hated it in the 1992 edition before reversing itself (with a different critic) in the 2004 edition. Maybe that was due to the poorly received film - it didn't have much of the soundtrack in it, but the association alone may have predisposed music critics against the album.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 6 November 2021 15:24 (three years ago)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
This and Controversy.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 November 2021 15:26 (three years ago)
parade is probably in my top three prince albums. does everyone just forget that it's the one with "kiss" on it???
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Saturday, 6 November 2021 16:03 (three years ago)
Sometimes It Snows in April is my jam
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 November 2021 16:05 (three years ago)
I haven't listened to it since it was new; I remember "Kiss" being so much better than everything else that the whole rest of the album felt like filler. (The fact that half the songs are under three minutes long didn't help with that impression.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 November 2021 16:07 (three years ago)
quality over quantity. you should revisit; it's a very dense album with tons of things going on. even though it's way better overall, sign o the times seems needlessly lengthy in comparison.
neanderthal otm, per usual. probably p's best ballad.
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Saturday, 6 November 2021 16:55 (three years ago)
Parade is one of my favorites as well. The only track i’ve never warmed to is Anotherloverholeinyourhead. Mountains and Boys & Girls are fabulous.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 6 November 2021 17:56 (three years ago)
Yeah, I discovered "Sometimes It Snows in April" via Rock Lists. It was high up on the list of Prince's best songs, and I didn't it at all (or the album beyond "Kiss"). Great, great song, it's damn sad it took Prince's death to elevate in beyond "deep cut" status. Even before D'Angelo performed it as his tribute, I played the shit out of that song.
I actually love "Anotherloverholenyohead," excellent cut. I should add Parade had great 12" singles. The 12" mixes, especially for "Mountains," were all great, and best of all was the full-length "♥ Or $" (which again I discovered via Rock Lists - it stood out because I think it was the one B-side they listed that wasn't on the The Hits/B-Sides which were my first Prince CD's). I wish "♥ Or $" had made the album, but it's still a great album.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:03 (three years ago)
agh, mistakes all over the place
cut/paste error*I didn't know it at all
typo*elevate it beyond
also upthread:everything else from Dirty Mind to Graffiti Bridge placed in the top ten
― birdistheword, Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:05 (three years ago)
Yeah Parade is amazing, probably the most ornate/baroque of his classic run with Clare Fischer’s arrangements. I think the psychedelic stuff is better executed than on Around the World too, especially on “Mountains” and “Life Can Be So Nice.” The only bum track for me is “Girls and Boys” which seems to be much loved but has always annoyed the crap out of me and goes on way too long
― J. Sam, Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:06 (three years ago)
"Anotherloverholenyohead" is a marvelous album track and a failure as a single.
Let's give Wendy and Lisa considerable credit for "...April."
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:06 (three years ago)
and another error - Lovesexy made #17 and The Black Album made #20 on the same P&J poll in 1988
― birdistheword, Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:07 (three years ago)
Yes, absolutely. Does Wendy play the acoustic guitar on that track? I love how you can hear all the squeaks on the strings, and also the beat that precedes that first strum through the final chorus - it's right after the saddest part, and it's like the guitar kicks up the tempo because it's time to move on, not just with the song but with life.
How much of Sign 'O' the Times had input from Wendy & Lisa? I know Prince is credited with recording it all, but weren't a lot of those songs worked on before he disbanded the Revolution?
― birdistheword, Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:12 (three years ago)
Believe so, but don’t remember for sure.
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:23 (three years ago)
They wrote much of the music and arrangement for "April" and the airier psychedelic numbers
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 November 2021 21:27 (three years ago)
"Girls and Boys" is such an amazing song
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 November 2021 22:40 (three years ago)
has there ever been a poll of prince's 80s b-sides?
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Saturday, 6 November 2021 22:40 (three years ago)
because we should do that, if not.
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Saturday, 6 November 2021 22:41 (three years ago)
Just in case anyone in the next 2000 years polls his best end of side 1 track for the record ‘Gotta Broken Heart Again’ gets my vote…
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Sunday, 7 November 2021 00:04 (three years ago)
Revisiting his trio of NPG albums, they really get better with each one. Diamonds and Pearls lays the blueprint, but the material's a little uneven and Tony M ain't so hot. The Symbol Album is better but needs some pruning - it's essentially another double LP, but take out the lousy skits, the weakest cuts, and there's a really strong album from maybe a dozen tracks. I just wish they had a better rapper - I could see someone like LL Cool J (following Mama Said Knock You Out) delivering what Prince needed to make it all work. Everything pretty much clicks on The Gold Experience. Love it, I think it's Prince's last truly great album though something like an 18-track/90 minute version of Emancipation could be up there too.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 7 November 2021 01:23 (three years ago)
Prince always felt kind of awkward to me when he tried to incorporate hip hop into his thing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 7 November 2021 04:01 (three years ago)
I don't think he was able to make it work until The Gold Experience. By that album, he's moved away from extended rap breaks, and instead of Tony M, it's mainly him. I think his laid-back style is pretty good - he's learned how to slip into a comfortable sing-speak flow that's fairly close to what Curtis Mayfield and Sly Stone had already done decades ago. The Gold Experience may be the only time Prince made the fusion with hip-hop feel organic to me, at least for a whole album. He never grew beyond that though - I can think of a few instances later on where he tries to rap more ambitiously and failed to pull it off. (One of the few weak tracks on 3121 has a poor rap break from Prince IIRC.)
― birdistheword, Sunday, 7 November 2021 04:33 (three years ago)
Xpost Yea it seemed dated like...even at the time.
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Sunday, 7 November 2021 04:33 (three years ago)
The production is quite ugly on those later albums; he stopped caring about arrangements, cared more about performance.
He would never have allowed a good rapper on a Prince album because he would never have allowed competition.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 November 2021 04:38 (three years ago)
There's Chuck D, but I get your point - Chuck was a guest shot, which isn't the same as being potentially upstaged by a full-time member of the NPG.
I don't have a problem with the production or arrangements on The Gold Experience or the best parts of Emancipation, but Come (which I don't like) does feel pretty ugly and Chaos and Disorder (which I enjoy) is slapdash which I guess makes sense since they were just "private" recordings. Except for Chaos and Disorder I wouldn't say he stopped caring - even the bad cuts seem meticulous in their own way.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 7 November 2021 05:49 (three years ago)
listening to mplsound this morning and I can see why people find it so disappointing -- I mean, it's prince; "this album is nice" won't really cut it, and, when I put "mountains" in the queue in the middle of it, the contrast was stark -- mainly compositionally, though: the actual production sound of the later album is good to my ear, there's a lushness to it that's fine and interesting -- and the songs, while, again, this isn't an icon riding the wave of his passion, it's a guy who likes to hang around the studio tinkering forever and is fresh out of lyrical concepts for the most part. but!! "U're Gonna C Me" is utterly lovely, and so is "Here" -- and as to Alfred's remark about arrangements two posts back, that's just not true -- the flutes on "here" fading into the synth funk of "valentina" (not much to recommend in the verses, but a terrific chorus with a great vocal and an uncharacteristic bgv arrangement).
kinda curious how good a "late prince that nobody reps for" mix would look.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 2 January 2022 15:35 (three years ago)