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PHILIP ANSELMO: If You Fuck With The U.S., You're Going To Have To Pay - Phil On Iraq,Bin Laden,9/11 etc

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I'm reprinting the whole interview here as the link to the site sometimes doesn't work. So apologies to those who would prefer just a link.
PHILIP ANSELMO: If You Fuck With The U.S., You're Going To Have To Pay - Aug. 6, 2004

In a brand-new pre-Ozzfest interview with Metal Edge magazine, SUPERJOINT RITUAL frontman Philip Anselmo was asked if much of the band's last album, "A Lethal Dose of American Hatred", was a response to the events of September 11, 2001. "Parts of it, for sure," Anselmo replied. "I think we got to do what we got to do, and unless you are making these particular decisions… I mean, yeah, we are a country, we are people who are allowed an opinion. 9/11 was a horrific thing, definitely the lowest point in American history, as far as us taking one on the chops. I cannot help but be sympathetic to families who lost people in that tragedy, on the planes and in the buildings. To every person who is anti-war, I have to point out the importance of us definitely showing a very, very strong front, not looking vulnerable, and also redeeming some of… I mean, Christ, look, we still have the death penalty. That's all I have to say. In a perfect society, none of that would have happened. There would be no 9/11, no executions, Christ, there would be no jails. But I'm just saying, if you fuck with the U.S., no matter what we do, you're going to have to pay at one point or another."

Asked if he happened to see the footage of Nick Berg, an American contractor in Iraq that was executed, Anselmo said, "Oh yeah, that was miserable, man. I mean, they try and whatever, the interrogation pictures are humiliating and whatever, but me? If you want to know where Osama Bin Laden is, or where Saddam Hussein is, or where any of those crazy motherfuckers are, do what you must to get an answer. I know for a fucking fact that every other country, for the most part — especially in the Third World and the Middle Eastern countries — shows a lack of regard when it comes to human life and the value of it. I mean, I'm not saying' Let's lower our standards to their level,' you know?! But we need to restore some order with authority, and if it is war that we have to endure, then so be it, if it's the only language they understand. Because they obviously are not privy to just stopping at our request, 'Knock this shit off, you motherfuckers!' You know, they have been warring since the beginning of time. Don't drag us into your shit. Maybe there's a question of us putting ourselves in there, but if you harbor these terrorists, and you damn well know about it, then you pay the fucking price as well. It's time to make a parking lot — put a flag in the ground and call it the United States of the Middle East. I mean, definitely… Fuck them! I mean, if you know the facts about the al Qaeda, they come across like a bunch of paranoid homosexual fucking Arabs, whatever the hell they are. The way they treat women and their entire attitude towards the subject is homo, man. They fucking just seem gay. I mean, obviously people are great or shallow in one way or the other, it's men and women — but they are not doing themselves any favors by fucking humiliating every woman in sight. That's Hitler-type shit. That's dictator, fucking hatred right there. None of that floats. Nobody puts up with that shit. You're begging to get your ass blown away."


Your thoughts?

― Rock Bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, definitely… Fuck them! I mean, if you know the facts about the al Qaeda, they come across like a bunch of paranoid homosexual fucking Arabs, whatever the hell they are. The way they treat women and their entire attitude towards the subject is homo, man. They fucking just seem gay. I mean, obviously people are great or shallow in one way or the other, it's men and women — but they are not doing themselves any favors by fucking humiliating every woman in sight...You're begging to get your ass blown away.


Yeah, and if those faggots don't cut it out, Phil Anselmo's gonna choke 'em with his dick! And then he's gonna fuck 'em in the ass until they bleed!

Pantera is 4 the ladeez

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

So you heard the rumours about Phil enjoying oral attention from male fans too, CeCe?

"if you harbor these terrorists, and you damn well know about it, then you pay the fucking price as well. It's time to make a parking lot — put a flag in the ground and call it the United States of the Middle East. I mean, definitely…"

Next governor of California?

― Rock Bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha is that a real rumor? Wow, I know nothing. I'm just always amused by homoerotic homophobia.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned Raggett linked to metal sludge once and i read it there somewhere. I had read similar things on other forums too.

If that link workds you should read some of the comments. (None so far on phils oral delights though) , i'm not sure if it's funny or scary that a few people do actually agree with him.

― Rock Bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

He's STILL overcompensating for those poofy hair and spandex pictures of Pantera before they hit it big as tough guys.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It's too bad that Jimmy Bower has to hang out with Phil. He's better than that.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Hank Williams III is in Phil's new band

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, he plays bass. I think he just likes hanging out.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And Phil likes having him around for the redneck cred. Kinda like Kid Rock and Hank Jr. It's like wearing the ultimate trucker hat.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Superjoint's Ozzfest set was the fucking worst. 40 percent music, 60 percent Phil bullshitting while the band let their guitars feed back and waited around for him to finish so they could play another 90-second song.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone have a copy of the Kerrang! article where Phil goes on about how he has mates in white power etc? I can't seem to find it online, but I do remember reading it in the actual magazine some years ago(maybe 8 or 9?) Kerrang got so many angry letters they stopped covering the band for a while and Phil Anselmo refused to speak to Kerrang either.
Funny thing about the interview: It was Anselmo's 1st kerrang interview in a year or 2 because he refused to speak with them after they published photos of him and pantera all glammed up, after he said they were only a glam/big hair band before he joined.
Pantera Big Hair Photos Here..

― Rock bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Anselmo's always been a big dumbass.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

100% correct there.

― Rock bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't imagine editing an Anselmo interview. Have you ever heard him talk? Every other word he says is "fucking," it's hilarious.

Before editing:
I mean fucking, yeah, fucking we are a country, we are fucking people who are allowed a fucking opinion. 9/11 fucking was a horrific thing, fucking definitely the lowest point in fucking American history, as far as us fucking taking one on the chops. Fucking I cannot help but be fucking sympathetic to families who fucking lost fucking people in that fucking tragedy, fucking on the planes and fucking in the buildings.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Theres a Pantera video where basically Phil Anselmo and Dimebag Darrell just swear every word. It's hard to say who is the thickest...but i've never heard Darrell say any racist shit so...

― Paulo J, Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/uhm/archive/index.php/t-3393.html

"I mean, sure, he wore a shirt to an eMpTyVee interview which sported the insignia of a foreign neo-nazi group. He didn't seem to mind letting rumors float around for a while to bring the band notice.

I honestly believe he's not a skinhead, but he excels at being a fake."

― Paulo J, Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - Yeah, but it doesn't bother me with Darrell because he's not constantly trying be a political pundit like Phil.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Phil Anselmo (he of PANTERA fame) seemed to enjoy the sound of his own voice more than the sound of his rock. Backed by new band SUPERJOINT RITUAL, he couldn't seem to shut his yapper as he droned on about the state of hard-core music and the state of war.
" 'I know there's a bunch of cry babies about the war but if we weren't the ones who did it, nobody else would have,' he announced. Conservatives take note: This is the same wanker who went on to mouth the words 'White Power!' as he executed a few Hitler-esque hand gestures.

― Paulo J, Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ironmaiden.org/showthread.php?p=443735
"Fuck Superjoint Ritual. Fuck Phil Anselmo. Fuck Pantera. Mid-set, Phil lifts his straight right arm Sieg Heil style, yells “you know what I can’t say’, and then mouths “White Power.” Superjoint finished their set with my ass in my seat and my middle finger raised in the air. If you any tolerate this skinhead nonsense, fuck you too."

― Paulo J, Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, he's always been kinda stupid. In interviews, he comes across as a highly uneducated, mush-mouthed Matt Dillon-in-the-Outsiders type of guy. I read something once where he said he can't be racist because all of his heros are black boxers. (!?!?!) I'd go as far as to say he's an embarrassmnet to the metal community, but...

This is my favorite part: "Fuck them! I mean, if you know the facts about the al Qaeda, they come across like a bunch of paranoid homosexual fucking Arabs, whatever the hell they are."

Almost Onion-worthy, that quote.

That said, I'm really sensitive to the ILX witch-hunting when it comes to 'racism' around here. No one bats an eye when Bobby Gillespie talks all his retarded communist shit. Shit, even famous hooker-torturer Rick James gets a lot of unconditional love around here. Basically, how does Phil Anselmo being racist affect any of you at all? Who cares? I think Superjoint Ritual are a pretty great band, fwiw, and so is Down, and so was Pantera, in their prime. I doubt many of you would have agreed much with Miles Davis's politics, either. And what about all the Krishna-conscious jazz cats, and the Farrakhaun-quoting Muslim rappers we all love and adore?

Let's not be so quick to tar and feather, boys and girls. Righteousness is in the eye of the beholder.

― flatworm juggernaut (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think anybody said they were gonna throw away all the records they own by people with dubious views/ideas/politics. I would need some big trashbags if I was gonna do that. We just think he's a dumbass.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that Viking Crown record, Banished Rhythmic Hate, is the only thing I actually own by him. It's a hoot!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Bobby Gillespie's "retarded communist shit" might be badly thought out, but is at least on the side of Humanity. Not that a buffoon like Anselmo is worth taking seriously either, but the positions are hardly equal.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Stalin = humanitarian?

― flatword jigga what jigga who? (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, man, if anything, Gillespie's ideas are way more 'dangerous' as far as I'm concerned.

(and yeah, he's a dumbass. It's part of his charm.)

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Bobby G has never idolised or even mentioned Stalin.
His father was a trade unionist and those views of Gillespie's are very common in the Glasgow "red clydesiders" area. None of them espoused stalinism...

― Rock bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure exactly how much Bobby has sided with Stalin. Surely not as much as Robert Wyatt, who I've never seen picked up on it.

I was just saying that Communism can be advocated much more comfortably by humanists than Fascism, since the former doesn't involve hatred of necessity.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

But which one resonates with more evil in our current political climate? Which ideology is more dangerous right now? Communism or plain old American bigotry?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Since POAB has all the nukes right now, I'd pick that.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - ts: whigs vs. wahhabism

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not talking 'sides' - i'm talking ideology.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - you're playing dodgeball dude

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

poorly

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure Gillespie embraces the utopian ideal of communism, which means he just doesn't think out his ideas. He's an E'd up goof but harmless. Anselmo sounds like an asshole. Considering the current climate I think the answer is pretty obvious.

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Anselmo makes Gene Simmons sound like Ghandi by comparison.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Stalinism, if not Marxism, is pretty much dead, i.e. I haven't noticed any Stalinist countries dictating International Law lately.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes but he also rocks way harder than that talentless, greedy pussy.

And the answer IS obvious, I agree.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's too bad that Jimmy Bower has to hang out with Phil. He's better than that.

ahhhhhahahaha. the sad thing is it's totally true.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hasn't Gene Simmons worn a dhoti occasionally, or should I lay off the booze?

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I would happily mock Bobby Gillespie is somebody started a thread about him.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Mocking Bobby Gillespie is kind of like mocking Weird Al.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Mocking Bobby Gillespie is kind of like mocking Weird Al.

Hahahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 7 August 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I just hope we don't see any Superjoint Ritual/Pantera fans parrotting Anselmos views. (unfortunately theres probably plenty on messageboards all over the internet).

― Rock bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Anselmo is probably speaking for the dumber end of his fan-base, rather than influencing the ones that can read.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Anselmo seems to exemplify the typical confused, contradictory, incoherent stance on race and politics that a lot of rednecks have.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i wouldn't worry about that. He does weild a lot of influence, but any Anselmo fans who get into White Power shit because of him were probably predisposed to asshattery anyway

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

but, to be fair, most liberals I know have a similarly confused, contradictory and incoherent stance, if not more so.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's a given. It's just that they don't advocate killing people.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's time to make a parking lot — put a flag in the ground and call it the United States of the Middle East."

A friend of mine had some Israeli co-workers who when asked about the goings-on in the Middle East said the exact same thing about "turning it into a parking lot."

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

That said, I'm really sensitive to the ILX witch-hunting when it comes to 'racism' around here.

I've always thought that witch-hunting is a term best used when talking about ppl accusing and condemning others for stuff that they haven't actually done/views they don't actually have, as opposed to accusing and condemning ppl based on actions that they have taken and views that they have endorsed.

But which one resonates with more evil in our current political climate? Which ideology is more dangerous right now? Communism or plain old American bigotry?

Roger, are you a time traveller?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 7 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Phils on something lately. hes been throwing up on stage and nodding off during interviews.

― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Saturday, 7 August 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

he's been an on-and-off junkie for along time i think.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 August 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

He technically 'died' for a few minutes when he overdosed didn't he?

― Rock bastard, Saturday, 7 August 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my editors interviewed him when Ozzfest hit Ohio; he said there was a roadie sitting next to Anselmo for the whole interview whose job seemed to be to literally kick Phil awake when he nodded off. So he may well be back on the smack.

A Lethal Dose Of American Hatred is a very good album. So's Ted Nugent's Craveman. I listen to both all the time. And when I saw Nugent at Irving Plaza in January 2001, I wished he'd shut the fuck up between songs, too.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The Donald Duck Connection

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Look, as much as I love Pantera's second album, Phil Anselmo -- and his former bandmates would invariably agree with me -- is, was, and always will be an utter fucking moron. To stick a microhphone in his gob and ask him to sound off on current events confirms as much.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 7 August 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

agreed. But that should go for all musicians / actors who feel the need to sound off.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 7 August 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Donald Duck voice Tony Anselmo a relative of his?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 7 August 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone here actually heard any of Pantera's old indie hair-metal stuff? I bet it's pretty fuckin funny, considering...

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 7 August 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Did they even record?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Y Pant Tera Reid

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

1983 - Metal Magic
1984 - Projects In the Jungle
1985 - I Am The Night
1988 - Power Metal (Phil Anselmos 1st)
All 4 hair metal albums on 'Metal Magic' Records.

Haven't heard any of them, but I expect it's like the indie White Zombie albums. they will be all over soulseek.

― Rock bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Am The Night" - what a great title, a real 80's title

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

If you look on AMG you can see the album covers. THATS REAL 80's STUFF!

― Rock bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know the new way to post pics. Could someone please post the 4 album covers for me? They really are worth showing.

― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.vdopantera.com/albums/pm/pix/pwr_mtle.gif

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

hehe the 1st album is the best/worst though.

― Rock bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.mothermetal.com/Images/metalmagic.jpg

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.mothermetal.com/Images/projectsinthejungle.jpg

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

and finally:

http://www.mothermetal.com/Images/iamthenight.jpg

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

My 2 and a half year old daughter would've drawn better covers than thatthem.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

is that Phil on the Power Metal cover, third from left w/ denim vest?

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice fringe.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

agreed. But that should go for all musicians / actors who feel the need to sound off.

b-b-b-b-but Roger YOU ARE A MUSICIAN!!!

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, but I'm a vigilante first.

No, seriously - if I was making a living in the way that, say, Alec Baldwin was making a living, I'd shut the fuck up on the subject of politics, because I'd fear the imminent (and justified) resentment from normal folks. It isn't like there aren't any celebrities who know to not make asses of themselves - Harrison Ford comes to mind as an example I wish others would follow.

I'm disenfranchised, that's all. And I'm not performing in front of a million screaming fans nor am I lobbying for anything or trying to get people to sign petitions.

Hey...waitaminute...are you trying to say I "sound off" too much, assfuck? :)

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think those covers are amazing in their crudeness. The Projects In The Jungle cover looks like it could be Fela Kuti: The Metal Years.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That is indeed Phil Anselmo.

See More Pantera Big Hair Photos Here...

X-Post

― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

But Metal Magic is a work comparable to the best of Vermeer.

That's Dave Vermeer, kebab chef from Hilversum.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post - Rock Bastard, thank you, that is the funniest site I've seen in a long time. check out their pages for Rage Against the Machine and Weezer (Rivers Cuomo was in a hair metal band called "Avant Garde"????)

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

We need Ian Christe back here to talk about all this. Rivers was and ALWAYS is a hair metal cockfarmer, his 'genius' was finding a different way to channel it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

My pleasure, joseph. Thank Ned for giving the link to ILM sometime last year.

Have you seen the Ronnie James Dio one yet? Or Fred 'vanilla ice' Durst?

― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

cheers Ned. I just think "Avant Garde" as a band name is atrocious. However Tom Morello's drama club photo is pure gold.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Very much gold. And yes, it's a lovely site -- there's some (I think extremely OTM) worry that Metal Sludge has this week changed for the worse, but as an archive site for the past six years at least, it will always be brilliant.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 August 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my days! I always knew he was a racist tosspot, but this article just goes to show what a fucking hateful bastard he can be. Plus the only good thing he ever did was that cover of "Gloves of Metal" with Anal Cunt. Otherwise he never did a decent bit of metal in his life. And he's a fucking cuntarse.

― catgreek (dog latin), Sunday, 8 August 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Roger, I getcha, was just baiting. I don't agree w/ your stance re: celebrities mouthing off, but have read your take on it in other discussions, and don't really think I can change your mind on it or anything...but, y'know, does wanting celebs to be apolitical *really* necessitate dumping every single one of them that isn't into the same category? Is obnoxiously screaming "vote democrat!" or "vote republican!" or whatever really comparable to mouthing "white power"? Is there REALLY no difference between Stevie Wonder lobbying to make MLK's birthday a national holiday, or the Dismemberment Plan dude voicing his opinions on the war on Iraq, and "I mean, if you know the facts about the al Qaeda, they come across like a bunch of paranoid homosexual fucking Arabs, whatever the hell they are"?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 8 August 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The Metal Magic cover seriously looks like some bad 80's NES game box art.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 8 August 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The Metal Magic cover seriously looks like some bad 80's NES game box art.
-- AaronHz (aaronh...), August 8th, 2004

OTM.

Is Donald Duck voice Tony Anselmo a relative of his?
-- the music mole (colinsbarrowREMOV...), August 8th, 2004

I don't know, probably not. I just thought that was funny after reading this thread.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 8 August 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dude, I didn't know that Kevin Smith was in Pantera!"

http://www.metalsludge.tv/main/modules/subjects/pages/ExposedPanteraCU2.jpg

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 8 August 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I like those covers, but then I'm a sucker for homemade metal art.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 August 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Has Metal Sludge really changed for the worse, Ned?

― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I must admit I found it a lot harder to navigate while looking for the Pantera pics. But I haven't checked the rest of the site.

― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I like those covers, but then I'm a sucker for homemade metal art.

seriously, though the albums aren't nearly as good to listen to as look at. just like this electric eels (not the cleveland punk one) album i'm listening to...

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 8 August 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

track 1 of Metal Magic is titled....(wait for it)....Ride My Rocket

LYRICS:
in this day and time of metal magic
we need rock and roll
we need PANTERA!
I didn't wanna touch you
since we were both sixteen
didn't wanna take you down
and show you what love means
now is the time
this is the place
get ready to take a chance
we don't have a minute to waste
ride my rocket
wear me out
ride my rocket
make me twist and shout
ride my rocket
give me all of your love
ride my rocket
I just can't get enough.

You leave me breathless
when you walk by
the way you move it girl
makes you satisfy
You might be the best
that i've ever had
it's gotta be good girl
cuz it looks so bad

ride my rocket
wear me out
ride my rocket
make me twist and shout
ride my rocket
give me all of your love
ride my rocket
I just can't get enough.

*guitar solo*

feels so good
makes my heart break
every time you touch me
i explode into flames

ride my rocket
wear me out
ride my rocket
make me twist and shout
ride my rocket
give me all of your love
ride my rocket
I just can't get enough.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)


I think those covers are amazing in their crudeness. The Projects In The Jungle cover looks like it could be Fela Kuti: The Metal Years.

-- Joseph Pot (yaho...) (webmail), August 7th, 2004 9:27 PM. (STINKOR™) (later) (link)

i was thinking the same thing.

― ||amateur!st|| (amateurist), Sunday, 8 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Phil Anselmo is the Vanilla Ice of metal.

― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, they're tough to find, but Celtic Frost's brief "glam" period (circa Cold Lake) boasts photos a thousand times as tragic.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Queensryche in their spandex and make-up daze were pretty silly looking. I also remember Discharge putting on metal gear. That didn't look so hot either.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 August 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Some of my favorite photos though are the ones of Brian Baker when he was in Junkyard.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooooh....don't remind me.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

lets see!

― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 8 August 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that's Brian Baker on the far left
http://www.rocktrip.net/imagenes/clasicos/Junkyard/Junkyard.jpg

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, he didn't look that different between late Dag Nasty and Junkyard. Resume-wise its weird but there's a more logical progression from Dag Nasty to Junkyard than Junkyard to Bad Religion.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

also see: Meatmen War of the Superbikes feat. both Baker and Preslar

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

T.S.O.L. also went down that infamous metal/biker highway.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think anybody might go metal/biker after spending a couple years with a young Ian MacKaye.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It would have been cool if Ian had started dressing like Al Jourgenson when they worked together.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

artists who act tough, but hide shameful wimpy glam period

― glamrockist, Sunday, 8 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If you think Phil is bad ...read some of the replies...

― glamrockist, Monday, 9 August 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahaha.

"To every person who is anti-war, I have to point out the importance of us definitely showing a very, very strong front, not looking vulnerable,"

By saying this, Phil accidentally makes a case against his own side of the coin. He backhandedly implies here that the war is for reasons of maintaining an image and Rambo-esque chest beating to keep the rest of the world in its place in case they decide to try anything, rather than for actual reasons of necessity :)

― uh (eetface), Monday, 9 August 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

From above link http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=25522
COMMENT | nuff said
posted by : Grachuss
8/6/2004 7:45:49 AM

"So saddam didn't have WMDs. He still was trying to create them though and weve known about that. I hope we take out iran or syria's government next. I would just like to see less civilian casualties this time."

It's worrying that theres someone so stupid.
Even more worrying is that theres people in the cabinet that do think exactly those things!

― Rock Bastard, Monday, 9 August 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

....MORE SMACK!!!!!!!!!

GIVE THAT MONKEY MORE SMACK!!!!!

I found my new slogan.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't Junkyard also feature one of the Big Boys?

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I chuckled at that one too Lord Custos.

― Rock Bastard, Monday, 9 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Blabbermouth reports: Cleveland, Ohio's "The Metal Show"
(TheMetalShow.com), which airs on 92.3 FM WXTM (Xtreme Radio), recently asked former
PANTERA and current SUPERJOINT RITUAL frontman Philip Anselmo to record
a message for the troops overseas. A transcript of the audio message
follows: "You guys, overseas... My Lord, this is Philip H. Anselmo from
SUPERJOINT RITUAL. And I do nothing - nothing - as of late but write
about our situations in a military light, in a political light. We are
backed into a corner, and the reason I say 'we' is because there's a lot
of people out there that want to protest the war, and this and that,
what-not… Look, the Middle East has been a pile of shit for over… seven
decades? I don't know, I have no idea [maybe] it's longer than that. I
guess all we're trying to do is show them… first of all, there is a way,
there is a way to make your country work. Secondly, if you don't catch
on to the way, we'll kick your ass some more. And as far as your !
terrorists and that [goes]. Only that, and pretty much that only, is
going to get even deeper and deeper into the Middle East, and WE - WILL
- KICK - YOUR - ASS. Deep into the Middle East. I suggest you take heed
- any of you - and if you are out there, and you're a plotter, and
you're with the al Qaeda, you are my enemy, and I dare you to face me one
on one - EVER! 'Cause I will fucking destroy you. Thank you."

― Ronald G Warren, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell yes, redneck!

Here's the audio -- do not adjust your bitrate:

http://music01.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bandprofile.downloadSong&bsid=77882

Ha ha, this vocal just started playing in my browser over the instrumental title track to the new Lamb of God...which already has a brief Iraq war spoken vocal. Awesome mashup.


― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm amazed at the lack of replies to this! did anyone actually listen to that file linked above? he is so obviously wasted and mentally incompetent, it's hilarious.

And as far as your! terrorists and that [goes]. Only that, and pretty much that only, is going to get even deeper and deeper into the Middle East, and WE - WILL
- KICK - YOUR - ASS. Deep into the Middle East.

excuse me, Phil? somebody please slap some sense into this mush-mouth shithead. or at least give him a gig at a stand-up (or recline in his case) comedy club.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, just listened to it. What a smacked out loser. Incidentally, his speech pattern/syntax, etc. is almost exactly that of the 13 year old Pantera fans who picked on me in junior high. Guess they could relate to his dumbassity.

If Phil ODs and dies anytime soon I won't shed any tears. He finished making whatever interesting music he was going to make over a decade ago.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's brilliant. I love how it's supposed to be message of support to the troops, but he ends up inadvertantly accusing them all of being Al Qaeda collaborators. Good old Phil.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Independent Mosow-based verification of US going deeper and deeper into the Middle East to KICK - AN - ASS:

"Iraq and Afghanistan are only the first moves of the U.S. offensive in the "big Middle East" from Morocco to China, while Russia and its rusting military are left to sulk on the sidelines."
— Pavel Felgenhauer, an independent Moscow-based defense analyst

Ha ha. Anyway, I'd like to add that Anselmo did already OD and die circa 1995, when Pantera made the mistake of letting him hire EYEHATEGOD as opening act. He was revived, EHG were immediately kicked off the tour, and the Cobain/Morrison/Shakur matyrdom trinity was preserved.


― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to see him die like Layne Stayley. Friendless and rotting until the cleaning lady or whoever stumbles upon his corpse a few weeks later.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Phil Anselmo is the Vanilla Ice of metal.
-- Siegbran (s...@hotmail.com), August 8th, 2004.

obviously

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"it's the only language they understand"

BRILLIANT!

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

nine years pass...

This might give the Paul Stanley stage banter mix a run for its money

https://soundcloud.com/daniel-hill-15/phil

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 00:12 (twelve years ago)

i brought the underground into pantera

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 00:15 (twelve years ago)

longmont potion castle editing is dope too

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 00:15 (twelve years ago)

that song is for homos, etc

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 00:17 (twelve years ago)

before this was the music of tomorrow i was saying this is the music of tomorrow

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 00:42 (twelve years ago)

don't sit there lookin at me like i'm gonna explode or lasers are gonna shoot outta my dick

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 00:43 (twelve years ago)

Poll in 5...4...3...2...

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 6 December 2013 01:33 (twelve years ago)

this next song is "fuck your enemy" - thank you!

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 01:58 (twelve years ago)

just out of curiosity at the....metal fuckin....festival thing

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:43 (twelve years ago)

this next song is called "creepy crawl" thankuverymuch

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:44 (twelve years ago)

there ain't no BALLS amongst the two of you

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:45 (twelve years ago)

i meant what i said....unless there's some shit i can't see out there

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 21:23 (twelve years ago)

so good

― napgenius (goole), Saturday, 7 December 2013 05:52 (twelve years ago)

this is amazing work

― Al He Miola (Spottie), Saturday, 7 December 2013 06:19 (twelve years ago)

so great

― deez the season (some dude), Saturday, 7 December 2013 12:41 (twelve years ago)

oh man, I thought the joke was gonna wear thin, but the final minute had me in stitches. "Let me hear some motherfuckin' NOISE while we walk outta here!!"

― confused subconscious U2 association (bernard snowy), Saturday, 7 December 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)

Somebody get me a morphine...milkshake

― chr1sb3singer, Saturday, 7 December 2013 23:49 (twelve years ago)

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlctiBLuG2E

― am0n, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:35 (eleven years ago)

hahaha. This is pretty much what all metal sounds like to me, though...

― Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:46 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGCbip5zobA

― how's life, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:48 (eleven years ago)

huh i never noticed those low-register vocal overdubs on the run up to the chorus

― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:52 (eleven years ago)

yeah thats the best part, along with the final "walk on home boy"

― am0n, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:25 (eleven years ago)

I like Pantera but Anselmo might be one of the more fascist, douchiest musicians in rock. I'm not sure the rest of the band shared his views, I remember reading somewhere that they felt embarrassed by his attitudes.

― Moka, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:53 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

I think really where the use of the rebel flag or Confederate flag with us really came from was from our love of bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd and whatnot — shit like that, you know. There was never a time when it was okay to promote hate without a little bit of the tongue-in-cheek. It was never this blatant thing, unless I was completely out of my mind, which I was at points in time. I’ll own that for damn sure, but that was a long ass-time ago.

I’m coming up on 47 years old, and I think that if it’s upsetting enough to people in general — this is tough to say without taking any side — I can see where if people see it as a symbol of hate these days. I wouldn’t want anything to fucking do with it. I wouldn’t want much to fucking do with it at all. You see a Confederate flag out there that says “Heritage, not hate.” I’m not so sure I’m buying into that, you know?…

In hindsight, you know what, I would have not used it.

http://hardrockhaven.net/online/2015/07/audio-interview-with-philip-h-anselmo-of-superjoint-pantera/

― how's life, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 18:41 (ten years ago)


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