why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

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not that there's an answer for this, or anyone would try to take a stab at one, but still

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"yessed out"?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, in and around the lake, mountains come out of the sky, and they stand there. I'd like to know.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

We in the USA like to smoke ourselves some dope, trev.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

like look at half these threads right now. I'm not complaining. I'm just curious.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i am a camera

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I just recently got dial-up and when I come home drunk but not tired this keeps the mind busy. lick it up.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not actually listening to Yes, just Utopia. Soz.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

What ILM looks light after midnight...

http://yes.iq.pl/images/jade_sea.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.huether-net.de/tickets/yes.jpg

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ian pretty much nailed. We got our smoke on and our drink on, and then we slap on "Yours Is No Disgrace".

Caesar's Palace, morning glory, silly human silly human siillllyy huuuuuuman race....

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

it's when us Yes fans are at our most alert.

http://www.doheth.co.uk/profiles/cbg.gif

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

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Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't understand the question. Can you speak Amurrican and explain?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I positively affirm and agree with you, trevor. Now, what was the question again?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

http://lets-yokara.web.infoseek.co.jp/samon_tales/main/yes-LeaveIt.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah crap, the formatting screwed up my lovely ascii art.

I fucking love "Yours Is No Disgrace" so damn much. What a beautiful, beautiful song. Howe's playing on the whole Yes Album just blows me away.

I grew listening to WIOT out of Toledo, Ohio, and when 90120 came out they used to play "Our Song" all the time because it had that line "Toledo is just another stop along the good king's highway". Like, they actually thought it was about Toledo, Ohio!!

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to go to bed. Guess this is the best place to leave it for now.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I can try, guy upthread. It's late in the great plains. There are many threads with new answers. Many of these new answers seem to involve Yes references. In the daytime this doesn't happen. The question is is this some strange phenomenon? What are its roots? Should something be done about it? Or should it just go on? I think it should. But am I wrong? Why? That is the question.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

grew up listening. damn, why I have been doing that dropping words thing so much lately??

Yes fans jonesing for more YESSOUNDS should totally check out those two latter-day Os Mutantes LPs, by the way. When they got all progged-out. Total Yes homages.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Pleasant Plains, one down one to go, another town and one more show.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Or to put it another way. Say I'm a veteran ILMer. "I think I'm appalled by these shenanigans. Yes. . . . No!" Is this an ILM death knell? That would be an interesting meta-discussion that will not occur.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh. See, I haven't EVER listened to a Yes song before (exception proving rule would be "Owner of a Lonely Heart" which I rather like) so all that's been going right over my head.

I thought "yessed out" was some sort of cockney slang for "sucking it's own dick" or somethin'.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

a few days ago, i felt like that dude in the "owner of a lonely heart" video when he was on the rooftop surrounded by the oh-so menacing members of yes (circa '84, so no rick wakeman [the ONLY vaguely scary member of yes EVAH]).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Forksclove, you should ditch the indie rock and pick up The Yes Album and Fragile toot sweet. Two of the finest albums on God's green, sticky, hydroponic earth.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

ME OTM, though that's not where the goodness stops by any means.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon Anderson could potentially be scary in an evil elf-leprechaun sort of way.

Your mention of the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" video reminded me there was one version that had a guy with maggots crawling around on top of his closed eyelids. Did "Fear Factor" rip off this idea? I think MTV stopped showing that version.

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

speaking of the raincoats cds (er, on another thread tonight), those os mutantes reissues on omplattern are now OOP and worth $$$$. i actually parted with mine at some point, for reasons i don't quite understand.

i love yes. sometimes i'll be walking around and suddenly a bass line from some yes song will pop into my head and i'll be all excited.

would that ilm actually were a bit more yessed out.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm. Well I'll certainly give it a run. Anybody who wants to mail a representative single or two is welcome to.

One of my (many) large gaps of musical knowledge is rock of any variety from 1970-1985 or so.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all about "Tempus Fugit" for me, man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The really technical part of "Heart of the Sunrise" is killer.

Wobbly, if you're out there, tell your Jon Anderson at NAMM story . . .

best

Drew

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

actually I'm all tulled out tonight.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)


Was this NAMM in Anaheim in like 96? At one of those shows I heard rumors that Jon Anderson was there and I was pissed that I never saw him. But for all I know he goes to all of them...

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay I guess he's not so here's his story of spotting Jon Anderson at NAMM

at a booth that sells vocoder software there is a man earnestly saying in a silvery, elven speaking voice reminiscent of Glinda the Good Witch "no, no, NO, you don't understand. I want to make my computer-" and here he erupts into a shivery high melodious flutter "s-i-i-iing!" and it's HIM and he's singing the word "sing" in THAT Yes voice.

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/entertainment/0208/gallery.yes/yes-atl-10.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my god, Drew -- that story is amazing! I think I would die on the spot. Such a voice.

What is NAMM, anyway?

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The biggest US musical instrument trade fair.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't is just late at night in the US the Brits arrive, and drive the whole thing stupid?

___ (___), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
REVIVE!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks Eisbar, I loved this thread.

I just watched some of that DVD "The Future Is Wild", the cheezy computer animated forecast of what freakish species will dominate this planet in 200 million years. It was very Yessed out too, CGI supercontinent-formation footage and giant global oceans (topographic tales of .. .)

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

um, i was just listening to the following yessed out record:

http://stat.discogs.com/R/262506-1103102672.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

does not matter!

Olias of Sunhillow Critical Edition, with commentary track guest starring the 'scientists' from The Future Is Wild

sharkopath (Jon L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

maybe a little like the trevor horn yes (or maybe i just wish it sounded more like trevor horn yes).

it's basically arp-heavy metronomic 1978 eurosynth cheese.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

This should have said "North America" to include sundar.

LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i still have yet to consciously hear a yes song

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

not purposefully or anything, i mean, i'd like to hear a yessong i guess

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh, side A of 'close to the edge' has really been doing it for me lately. i love all those drum fills that go right through the first ONE beat and splash back in somewhere in the middle of the bar. anothe reason of why i like it so much is because it kind of reminds of this local band here called form of rocket that does similar type things (fast, frenetic parts / churning, odd time signatures / that drum fill thing)

6335, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

I always see a Dean landscape, or some Art Nouveau P. Craig Russell planet landscape whenever I listen to Yes. Except for Yes mach-90125 and onward.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, my posts on this thread from last week got deleted :(

I guess the only interesting thing in them was that apparently Eddie Jobson was in the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" video. They tried to edit him out when he ended up not being in the band, but couldn't do it completely. The edits are one reason why the "plot" is so hard to follow.

wetmink (wetmink), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

it got swallowed up in the great 2004 ILM purgee/eraXor, but here's the link to the long-form video for "owner of a lonely heart," on the director's webpage.

and yes, there ARE maggots on the dude's eyes.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 December 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I get up! I get down...

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 27 December 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
ok, last lame-o thread revival for the night ... because I am going to bed.

BUT! just guess what my classic rock station is playing right now on their so-called DEEP CUT weekedn at this ungodly hour ...

yup, STARSHIP TROOPER!!

good god what a tune.

and i'm out

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
OK, i just got tormato. and yes, it IS as bad as its reputation. e.g., "arriving ufo" is one of the GAYEST, TWEEIST songs EVAH -- did someone slip some angel dust in rick wakeman's beer, or what?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

and where IS drew daniel these days, anyway?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

Tormato is rough going. But you need to hear the demos Yes made with Roy Thomas Baker right before Anderson & Wakeman quit. Other than "Run Through The Light" they make Tormato sound positively macho.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Hey dudes, Relayer is only three bucks on itunes.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

what a fucking awesome thread.

I found my mint LP copy of Relayer for a dollar in a used bin.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hipsters!

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 20 January 2007 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

"Hi, I'm Patrick Moraz, cuz I get More Ass. I'm a continental type with really high hair. I hope you enjoy my noodly jazz prog."

http://www.drjazz.ch/album/bilder/Moraz30.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 20 January 2007 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

damn, and i'm not even close to being drunk tonight!!

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/Eisbaer29/be70040c-9265-47c2-ab7b-0dc6abe418a.jpg

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'm yessed out on poppy pod tea and I just played guitar for an hour. Yes!

trashthumb, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:41 (eighteen years ago)

karaoke, yes-style!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwoE9r11a-c

gershy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgH7Oec__s

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:14 (eighteen years ago)

Nothing succeeds like excess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMF1-OEZYBE

Watching Bruford in that clip makes me think of the story (perhaps apocryphal) of the Genesis tour he was on when he'd get bored and start playing different beats just to screw things up.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:22 (eighteen years ago)

DIG IT! (the "it" being really bad stock footage, apparently)

as much shit as tormato gets, i do like squire's bass sound on that
and wtf with wakeman's synths? the birotron - cheesy to the max
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gershy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

LOL cheesy late 70s video effects -- also, it reminds me of the "i want candy" video.

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:24 (eighteen years ago)

"don't kill the whale" is actually an OK song, maybe the best thing on tormato. and the really painful wakeman synths are in the beginning of "arriving UFO" (maybe the worst yes song of all time?)

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:26 (eighteen years ago)

The Birotron was an ill-fated tape replay keyboard conceived by Dave Biro of Yalesville, Connecticut, USA, and funded by Rick Wakeman of the progressive-rock group Yes in the late 1970s.

The Birotron was a keyboard instrument that used 8-track cartridge tapes to play sounds whenever a key was pressed on the keyboard. It is similar in concept to the Chamberlin and Mellotron, and was a forerunner of digital sampling. Keyboards like the Mellotron and Birotron were mainly used for strings, choirs, brass, and flutes; sounds not easily reproduced on the synthesizers of that era. The major innovation of the Birotron was that it stored its sounds using 8-track tape loops, which allowed it to play the sounds indefinitely, a great improvement from the 8-second limit of the Mellotron.

History
Dave Biro invented this instrument and showed it to Rick Wakeman, who was so impressed by the idea that he offerred to fund its manufacture. It was developed by Birotronics, Ltd which was one of Wakeman's Complex 7 businesses. The Packhorse road case company was under this umbrella as well. Birotronics apparently made a very limited number of these instruments (David Biro says only 17 were made, including the original and 4 prototypes, while Rick Wakeman claims 35.) 4 of those were owned by Rick Wakeman, who noted in an interview in 1999 that 2 were stolen and 2 were damaged beyond repair. Only 5 or 6 Birotrons are accounted for today.

Two major factors led to the Birotron's demise. The most direct cause was a lack of necessary and consistent funding. The Birotron also suffered from poor timing, being introduced very shortly before the arrival of the digital sampling technology (such as the Fairlight_CMI) which would render it obsolete.

gershy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

OOooooh the band Yes... I thought you meant high.

trashthumb, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

Squire on "On The Silent Wings Of Freedom" here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q5KQIaHFma4

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:30 (eighteen years ago)

The world of Yes tribute bands on YouTube is very strange, but I gotta give them points for trying...

The packs of Marlboros in the foreground totally makes this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lvjkG5EgFxA

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:34 (eighteen years ago)

OOooooh the band Yes... I thought you meant high.

-- trashthumb, Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:29 AM

OMG I AM YESSED OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A COON'S AGE

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 October 2007 08:53 (eighteen years ago)

A raccoon killed my pet rabbit. It grabbed the thing through the cage, and smashed it again and again through the rails, and a lot of its body that the raccoon couldn't get dropped down into the plastic tub that captured its feces. So be careful what you say BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, or you might totally ruin my yes sesh..

trashthumb, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Utterly ridiculous, but Howe really kills it here.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 08:25 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

OMFG. "Awaken" sounding transcendent right now really LOUD after a night of bourbon & Guiness. On headphones, mind.

François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 09:21 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

interesting that they covered "america" -- the beginning of "el condor pasa" sounds a lot like the beginning of "roundabout"

kamerad, Saturday, 16 January 2010 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

my wife and I were playing Yessongs after we got home from a show last night around 2 A.M. and I was telling her about this thread.

sleeve, Sunday, 17 January 2010 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

I come to revive this and look who posted last.

Really feeling CTTE this last week, listening to "And You And I" atm.

sleeve, Thursday, 9 December 2010 06:05 (fifteen years ago)

to answer the question way up above, yes, tormato is as bad as everyone says, and I can be captain save a yes. but really I think pretty much everything after 90125 (which I love) is awful, except for some things on Magnification, and drama is my third favorite Yes album after the Yes Album and Fragile.

akm, Thursday, 9 December 2010 08:33 (fifteen years ago)

Can never decide between Relayer and The Yes Album as my favourite. Going For The One and CTTE round out my top 4. Have never really liked Fragile; honestly I'd much rather listen to TFTO.

a lout deeply plugged into the Po (acoleuthic), Thursday, 9 December 2010 08:46 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

Gotta love Jon!

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 06:13 (fourteen years ago)

guy is saintly

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

a samurai sword

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-qKboHKPEA

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Yes, Arcade Fire are working with with James Murphy" -anybody else get unnecessarily excited by this pitchfork headline?

BrianB, Sunday, 9 December 2012 04:21 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

yestival quadrophronic prog festival

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/yes-yestival/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:03 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sEOK0En6Pk

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:06 (twelve years ago)

yes i said i will. yes

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:08 (twelve years ago)

four months pass...

"beyond and before" is one of the all-time debut album opening songs. like an overture to everything that would be awesome (and lame) about them as they keep on stargazing along

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:57 (twelve years ago)

five months pass...

http://www.list.co.uk/article/59949-yes-bassist-chris-squire-writing-autobiography/

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 00:29 (eleven years ago)

second response hall of fame

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 00:40 (eleven years ago)

gonna listen to some Yes right now in honor of this thread

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 02:24 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96d5spC3tQg

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:11 (eleven years ago)

two weeks pass...

Is there a specific thread about post-Bruford Yes records? I don't feel like wading through pages of threads with the word "yes" in the title

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 2 May 2014 02:52 (eleven years ago)

it is a thread called no

j., Friday, 2 May 2014 02:53 (eleven years ago)

this is a post called hmm

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 2 May 2014 02:54 (eleven years ago)

I'm listening to Relayer for p much the first time right now and it's honestly much better than I expected in spite of seeming to miss something that the older records had. I guess I'm just one step further into old dude lameness now.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 2 May 2014 02:56 (eleven years ago)

i've been pretty yessed out the past few years, got into other parts of the bruford era i had been cool to before, but once i hit relayer it's just like, cmon, this is not the same band

j., Friday, 2 May 2014 03:05 (eleven years ago)

yeah but there's only a pretty small amount of bruford era, and an even smaller amount of anderson-bruford-wakeman-howe.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 2 May 2014 03:09 (eleven years ago)

it's a good thing them some long-ass songs then

j., Friday, 2 May 2014 03:12 (eleven years ago)

These days, post-Yes Bruford records get more of my attention than post-Bruford Yes records. Well, up until that Earthworks stuff.

doug watson, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:35 (eleven years ago)

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/MICP-30060

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 2 May 2014 15:36 (eleven years ago)

Relayer is actually my second-favourite after Close to the Edge. They went further 'out' than usual on it and I think Howe might have been at his peak there.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 2 May 2014 15:48 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, Relayer is great.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 2 May 2014 15:49 (eleven years ago)

The last time I listened, I actually wondered whether it could be my favourite.

Yes without Anderson or Howe definitely doesn't seem like the same 'classic' band to me but tbh I guess I'm a little surprised that the drummer would make so much of a difference to some listeners. I never really feel like there's a rhythmic weakness on Relayer. The ensemble playing on Relayer seems dazzlingly tight to me. I like Bruford but I mostly just appreciate the way he worked as part of the ensemble. If anything, I notice his playing much more in King Crimson. I never really thought of him as a star drummer like Bonham or Peart or Moon, though.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 2 May 2014 15:55 (eleven years ago)

The ensemble playing on Relayer seems dazzlingly tight to me

"... [O]n 'Sound Chaser'" was what I meant.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 2 May 2014 15:57 (eleven years ago)

Hm, now I'm thinking about the drums on side 2 of Fragile and reconsidering that...

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 2 May 2014 16:00 (eleven years ago)

side 1 of the yes album too ("clap" excepted obv.)

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 2 May 2014 21:22 (eleven years ago)

I think there's a certain swing to brufords playing that made them a little, idk, funkier or something and counterbalanced the more technical aspect of their prog. White is a lithe and strong drummer and I think he works about as well as anyone other than bruford coukd have. But there's still a missing ingredient for me. I mean white can hold his own on pretty much anything but I can't imagine him coming up with the unforgettable fills bruford did on heart of the sunrise.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Saturday, 3 May 2014 00:53 (eleven years ago)

absolutely agree

Bruford was like a little jazz drummer, close-mic'ed, playing in the corner, while symphonic yes played in the center of room with reverb and space to infinity. The balance / counterpoint is dramatic and awesome.

calstars, Saturday, 3 May 2014 00:55 (eleven years ago)

I walked through midtown manhattan today around 3pm air-drumming to "heart of the sunrise."

veronica moser, Saturday, 3 May 2014 01:26 (eleven years ago)

The melodic parts of Silently Falling are so nice

calstars, Friday, 16 May 2014 20:49 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

fitting development (even if wayne has turned into a grade-a toolbag), since legend has it admitting to each other in the tourvan that they were separately listening to yes led to 'the soft bulletin'

http://www.spin.com/articles/flaming-lips-electric-wurms-heart-of-the-sunrise-video/

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 20:32 (eleven years ago)

three months pass...

10:36-13:30 of Awaken is the best bit of Yes y/n

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:25 (eleven years ago)

Absolutely.

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:32 (eleven years ago)

three months pass...

This is so great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SszeZhF9Xq4

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:31 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

favorite thread title

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 February 2015 02:22 (eleven years ago)

it's like the let's get drunk and listen to waka flocka flame for prog dudes

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 February 2015 02:22 (eleven years ago)

it's the only searchable yes thread so i went with it. plus it's night. but not late. so i cheated.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 28 February 2015 02:38 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

i miss getting yessed out on ilx

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:03 (ten years ago)

ilx never should've tucked in its yessing

some dude, Monday, 29 June 2015 23:17 (ten years ago)

I'm listening to CTTE right now

sleeve, Monday, 29 June 2015 23:37 (ten years ago)

I'm listening to Relayer. Again.

It's hard to say what will become of Yes now - however, it's tempting to imagine 50 years in the future where Yes are still going, minus any of the past members we currently know, still playing Close To The Edge... like a prog rock Menudo, or something.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 29 June 2015 23:57 (ten years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Zx6oKfi.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 01:39 (ten years ago)

I'm listening to CTTE right now

i did this tonight

mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:27 (ten years ago)

It's been Tales and Relayer for me

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:00 (ten years ago)

This thread is the reason I've been so Yessed out for the last 6 years.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 05:42 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

https://vimeo.com/67135948

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 02:58 (ten years ago)

What's the opening song Yes plays at their first post-Squire show? THAT ONE...
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/yes/2015/grand-theater-at-foxwoods-mashantucket-ct-13f7bd8d.html

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 03:30 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/09/18/getting-yes-steve-howe-guitar-wizard-365831.html

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 September 2015 23:20 (ten years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=184&v=W8XVrpEiyOU

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 21 September 2015 03:32 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

Somebody tell me "South Side of the Sky" isn't a great song

SO I CAN PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 5 November 2015 20:20 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

advice column gets all yessed out

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/11/ask-polly-im-sick-of-being-unhappy-and-alone.html

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:33 (ten years ago)

Classic

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)

She picked a dud live clip, though. Way better imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcvByrgofjc

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:19 (ten years ago)

These words spring into my mind often. I didn't know what they meant when I was younger and listened to Yes, partially because I was not just surrounded by myself, I was also full of myself. I was covered in myself and clothed in myself and swimming through a sea myself only to get to an island of myself, alone on a planet of myself, spinning through a universe of myself.

feelin' yessed

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:27 (ten years ago)

hahaha amazing

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:40 (ten years ago)

\m/

also, can i just say, the anderson-ponty band album better late than never is way better than two dudes in their 70s have any right to be, and is kind of a tonic for the wretched heaven & earth?

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 18:30 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhqWpaW9s4o

MaresNest, Sunday, 3 April 2016 19:28 (nine years ago)

First time I'm seeing footage of them play live - funny to see Anderson as a young man when I've always pictured him (just from his voice) so much older. And Howe like a wraith.

calstars, Monday, 4 April 2016 00:05 (nine years ago)

Man I decided to give Going for the One another chance after seeing that, and I just reached the point where it really started to give me a headache, which, it turns out, is about 4 minutes into Awaken.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 4 April 2016 01:37 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaKdI7v8XxU

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 8 April 2016 18:48 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvANpEr3XbA

pplains, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:02 (nine years ago)

four weeks pass...

Had a dream that I was using some kind of remote-control device to change a convenience store's LED-light sign to read "TELL THE MOONDOG TELL THE MARCH HARE" in scrolling text, but the store's proprietor yelled at me before I could succeed.

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 30 May 2016 21:53 (nine years ago)

Maybe he/she just wasn't into the Jon Anderson songs!

Iago Galdston, Monday, 30 May 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)

getting so yessed out rn

dc, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 01:14 (nine years ago)

Anderson, Wakeman, and Rabin are touring this year.

akm, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 03:01 (nine years ago)

woke up this morning all yessed out

dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 12:26 (nine years ago)

really looking forward to an AWR album (though why not Wakeman Anderson & Rabin or Rabin Anderson & Rabin . . . WAR / RAW versus YES!). the collaboration jon a just did with roine stolt (kaipa / flower kings (!) / transatlantic (!!)) can err on the side of saccharine sometimes but is WAAAAAAY better than heaven & earth imho. there are some old school topographic vibes for sure

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 13:23 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

aint nearly yessed out yet got a ways to go

j., Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:24 (nine years ago)

never mind ilm, the IOM is getting all yessed out from Friday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp6PYfNWAAIAEJq.jpg

Jeff W, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 10:49 (nine years ago)

"Grandpa, what are stamps?"

it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 16:43 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

i like to think that the synth wooble just before the second verse of roundabout starts is what it sounds like to get yessed out

j., Wednesday, 7 September 2016 01:54 (nine years ago)

or the multilayered horn/squire "YEEEEEESSSSS" from near the end of Tempus Fugit

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 03:10 (nine years ago)

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/jon-anderson-on-new-yes-spinoff-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-w439908

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 02:39 (nine years ago)

(If you want to see Steve Howe's Yes, their only gigs at the moment are a short run of Japanese dates and the Cruise to the Edge, departing from Tampa, Florida, on February 7th.)

seeeeeeagulls will pass you by

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 03:50 (nine years ago)

https://tributetoyes.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/soundchasersquareani.gif

brimstead, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 03:53 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

Err...yeah I don't like Rabin's '80s El Lay guitar histrionics. Guys...Why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=949&v=LsUEXiSq0SM

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 8 October 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)

Just had a listen to some ARW, and like, damn Jon Anderson sounds good. I'll take Howe over Rabin all day (though Howe has been sounding not so hot lately...) but Anderson is just killing it, even sloppy old Rick Wakeman sounds better than Downes, and I like Downes a lot. I'm probably the biggest Drama stan on this board but still I gotta say, ARW pretty much blows Yes out of the water

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:57 (nine years ago)

of course it doesn't help that Chris Squire is gone, still such a sad end to things. oftentimes I feel like "Fish out of Water" is the best Yes record

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Thursday, 13 October 2016 06:40 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVhfWxyGorY

this is great though. I think I'll go after all.

akm, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 20:34 (nine years ago)

kurt schitterz tell me if you're going to this in november. my wife thinks it's sad I keep going to these prog shows on my lonesome.

akm, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 01:06 (nine years ago)

Definitely go. I'd be there if it was an option. Also bassist Lee Pomeroy was great when he played with Hackett on the Genesis Revisited Tour. Sounds pretty good here too.

doug watson, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 01:10 (nine years ago)

oh that's right, that was him. hackett's band was excellent (except for nad sylvan who is annoying)

akm, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 02:53 (nine years ago)

wow that was surprisingly excellent

cant believe Jon is like 70 now and still sounds like that

frogbs, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 03:09 (nine years ago)

Glad he got his voice back.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 14:23 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7625660/yes-alan-white-rock-hall-fame-reaction

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 00:17 (nine years ago)

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7625660/yes-alan-white-rock-hall-fame-reaction🔗
I suppose it's a typo that the article doesn't list Howe as one of the inductees for Yes?

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 00:24 (nine years ago)

six months pass...

hearing. talking. yes i love

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 June 2017 02:22 (eight years ago)

two hearts will always be in and out of time

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 June 2017 02:24 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

alec baldwin interviews jon anderson

http://www.wnyc.org/story/jon-anderson-musical-adventure-isnt-over/

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 July 2017 21:02 (eight years ago)

saw a stoner skateboard kid getting off the train a couple days ago with a yes '77 tour t-shirt. are yes really big in the stoner set? i thought stoners went more for the floyd.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 15 July 2017 21:06 (eight years ago)

why not both?

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 July 2017 21:28 (eight years ago)

That interview is great.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 15 July 2017 21:49 (eight years ago)

I'm surprised his Howard Stern interview isn't easier to find, I'd like to hear it. Apparently he was the first big guest Stern got to pick himself?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 22 July 2017 13:22 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

So, have you guys noticed this thing where the intro for 'Roundabout' is being used in meme-esque video clips where some sort of collision or confrontation is imminent. Except, right when the collision/whatever is going to happen, the video freezes just as the whole band joins in and 'Roundabout' begins, with a "To be continued" text somewhere on the screen. And that's it.

Where does this come from? I find it equally intriguing and hilarious that 'Roundabout' has found its way into "meme culture" in such a random way. And I find that every time someone uses it in one of their videos, the funnier it gets for me.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 7 August 2017 23:16 (eight years ago)

Dammit, it's not there anymore.

why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

Some anime cartoon used Roundabout as its soundtrack, but yeah, love those.

pplains, Monday, 7 August 2017 23:52 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvANpEr3XbA

pplains, Monday, 7 August 2017 23:54 (eight years ago)

Okay. That was fantastic.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 01:35 (eight years ago)

First time ever seeing this meme and I can confirm it's awesome. Dying laughing at some of those.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 04:41 (eight years ago)

yeah I'm laughing like an idiot after 20 seconds of that

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 04:44 (eight years ago)

me 2

niels, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 08:19 (eight years ago)

why must we wait till the morning light to wake up and be, wake up and be, wake up and be?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 10 August 2017 01:54 (eight years ago)

I wonder if OP trevor horn still hangs around these parts. I knew him IRL but haven't seen him in probably a decade.

Beret McKesson (jaymc), Thursday, 10 August 2017 03:32 (eight years ago)

two months pass...

It's almost 11pm on Friday night, I'm at my office dealing with work spillover stuff, and I am TOTALLY YESSED OUT

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:57 (eight years ago)

I know I posted this on the other thread, but you know what, I'm in the US and I want everybody to know it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:57 (eight years ago)

I'm an American, I'm yessed out, it's late at night, and I vote

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:58 (eight years ago)

Which Yes transmission are you picking up?

calstars, Saturday, 14 October 2017 04:00 (eight years ago)

All I want to do is live inside the bass line from "Roundabout" for the rest of my days

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 October 2017 04:05 (eight years ago)

take sides: eclipse vs. apocalypse

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 October 2017 04:08 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hmHSaZMdlk

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:53 (eight years ago)

nice! I didn't know that band but am checking them out now

niels, Thursday, 19 October 2017 05:45 (eight years ago)

we hear you, eephus

j., Thursday, 19 October 2017 06:33 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

Is there a better Yes song than "Going for the One?" I don't think so.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:11 (eight years ago)

Is there as a good a Yes song as "Going for the One?" I haven't heard it.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:11 (eight years ago)

Yessongs (the live movie) is on Amazon Prime streaming right now and it is fucking great

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:15 (eight years ago)

Now I know what I'm doing this afternoon

Moodles, Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:22 (eight years ago)

What year was that recorded ?

calstars, Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:48 (eight years ago)

‘72, I used this thing called google

calstars, Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:50 (eight years ago)

"wonderous stories" is the best song on going for the one

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 3 November 2017 16:21 (eight years ago)

Yessongs (the live movie) is on Amazon Prime streaming right now and it is fucking great

― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nice, thanks for the tip!!

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:22 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne317y_eOYs

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 November 2017 00:39 (eight years ago)

"Awaken" is the best song on GFTO

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 17 November 2017 03:11 (eight years ago)

awaken is the best song ever written

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:29 (eight years ago)

I had a few beers last night and jammed 3 Starcastle albums, it was awesome

frogbs, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:59 (eight years ago)

Which would you recommend ? Never heard ‘em

calstars, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:42 (eight years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/veCCsO3.jpg

calstars, Friday, 24 November 2017 02:47 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EofNvr-xuwE

Original lineup v underrated, Peter Banks!

salthigh, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 08:33 (eight years ago)

as armoured movers took approach to overlook the sea

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 01:02 (eight years ago)

as song and chance develop time, lost social temperance rules above

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 01:27 (eight years ago)

Which would you recommend ? Never heard ‘em

I'd say go for the first one, the first side of which is some of the best music Yes never put out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoLcQ4LIRyU

Second album Fountains of Light is probably slightly better overall though

On Citadel they'd gone into more of a Kansas/Styx type direction, I still love it though

Haven't heard anything after that

frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:21 (eight years ago)

Anyway I'm playing the new Yes live album now - it's not all bad, Sherwood fills in quite nicely for Squire, Davison sounds alright, the version of "Ritual" is good and it's kind of neat to hear all of Drama on a live album

but man, it's depressing to hear them so out of sync at spots, especially when the quick tunes like "Tempus Fugit", "Heart of the Sunrise", and "Roundabout" are only played at 75% speed. IDK maybe they come off better in person.

frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)

nice to have a discrete "leaves of green" on an *official* release

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 December 2017 22:06 (eight years ago)

ahaha so apparently they're re-releasing Fly From Here with Trevor Horn on vocals, effectively erasing Benoit David's brief tenure with the band

frogbs, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:53 (eight years ago)

never fear there's always like the four live albums they released from tours with him

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 December 2017 15:47 (eight years ago)

a clearer future -- morning, evening -- nights with you

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 16 December 2017 23:44 (eight years ago)

ooo-ooou!

calstars, Sunday, 17 December 2017 00:33 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

Listening to live at Wembley show,1978, from a BBC broadcast. Jaw droppingly awesooooome. Prob some of my fave live versions of their stuff here. Even the "Tormato" tunes were on fire.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:12 (eight years ago)

yousendit?

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:34 (eight years ago)

Last thing at the bottom of thispage will get you Yessed Out.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:14 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

woooowww my mind is being blown by the "give peace a chance" quote in "i've seen all good people" that i never noticed before !!!

y'all wanna do this er wut

budo jeru, Friday, 16 February 2018 01:09 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

The apple doesn't fall far. My son spent the evening geeking out on our vinyl copies of Fragile and Close to the Edge with his buddy.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 7 April 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)

I dove back into "Tormato" because I'm fascinated by the ways established prog/prog-leaning bands reacted to punk. "Release, Release" is my favorite of such response songs, after Queen's "Sheer Heart Attack". I also love the raw sound of "On The Silent Wings Of Freedom" - it's like a rehearsal that accidentally made it to final mastering. (Hell, you can almost smell the cigarette burns on the shag carpet in the wood-paneled basement beneath the "Ummagumma" poster with the thumbtack missing from the upper-left corner). And there's the whole "Was Rick Wakeman openly trying to sabotage the album?" solos that echo Viv Savage from "This Is Spinal Tap" (near the end of the track, Rick just goes up and down the first 5 notes of the Lydian mode for like 6 measures). Damn, I love that song!

When my Spotify shuffle setting played "Onward" after James Blake's "Unluck" and "Wilhelm's Scream", it finally hit me that Yes might have accidentally invented Dubstep (or, at least, the chill side of it). The sub-70bpm tempo, the underlying subtle-yet-propulsive keyboard rhythm that appears and disappears, the soaring chorus - all that's missing is a massive bass drop before "...OF MYYYY LIIIIFE!"

Prefecture, Sunday, 8 April 2018 02:56 (seven years ago)

(Apologies for going Full Ronald Thomas Clontle if I swapped Yes for Madness and Dubstep for Ska)

Prefecture, Sunday, 8 April 2018 03:01 (seven years ago)

good post brah
Are any of the b-sides notable?

calstars, Sunday, 8 April 2018 03:05 (seven years ago)

I'm not aware of the B-sides (my copy of "Parallels" has "Wonderous Stories" on the blue vinyl), but there are bonus tracks on the remastered edition of the LP. They're all really folky - hell, "You Can Be Saved" might be the best song Band of Horses never recorded.

Prefecture, Sunday, 8 April 2018 03:37 (seven years ago)

I picked up used vinyl copies of The Yes Album and Relayer today.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 8 April 2018 04:07 (seven years ago)

why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

not that there's an answer for this, or anyone would try to take a stab at one, but still
― trevor horn, Friday, August 27, 2004 12:24 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"yessed out"?
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, August 27, 2004 12:25 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think about this thread title and these two posts very often

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 05:16 (seven years ago)

it's like a joke between me and me

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 05:16 (seven years ago)

why has nobody made a pair of socks with the Yes logo on them? I would happily sport a pair of Yessocks.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 8 April 2018 06:56 (seven years ago)

i love that uncut did an ultimate music guide, and i get that they were boring to interview, but holy shit do they underrate major jams ~

"survival" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"then" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"astral traveller" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"starship trooper" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"siberian khatru" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"the gates of delirium" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"to be over" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"wonderous stories" -- 3 out of 5 stars?

"tempus fugit" -- 2 out of 5 stars? 2 out of 5 stars??

go choke on velvet underground vinyl uncut MAGA. and to think that rick wakeman tickled the ivories on "life of mars?" and "get it on (bang a gong)" and was pretty much a member of black sabbath, bruford drummed for king fucking crimson, and the god damned buggles. imagine living your life graded on the curve yes is by rock critics

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 12 April 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)

It's an outrage, is what it is

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 12 April 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)

case in point

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 12 April 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)

critical update:

the game Knights of the Crystallion was inspired by the cover of Relayer.

Ages ago, a colossal sea monster called an Orodrid died in a canyon passage. Millions of years later, after the valley was eroded, a nomadic people found its hulking skeleton, “incomprehensible” in size, and declared it their new home. “Orodrid, the city of bones” became more than a shelter. It was the new center of their world, their source of spiritual energy.

In Knights of the Crystallion, you live within this society. That’s the game. It combines a group of confusing, seemingly random activities – like a Nine Men’s Morris-style board game and an action sequence set in twisting cave – to depict the many sides of the communal, religious life of the Orodrim.

https://obscuritory.com/other/knights-of-the-crystallion/

Karl Malone, Monday, 16 April 2018 16:34 (seven years ago)

oh hshit

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 16 April 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)

Hey Reggie how much didja have to pay for that Uncut UMG? Amazon has it for $30 US which is, like, outrageous for a magazine. Trying to pay less than $15 for it.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 16 April 2018 17:16 (seven years ago)

$40. i'm a sucker for these guys; it felt like a huge bargain given how many other magazines i've bought over the years, and how little attention any pay to YES. unfortunately it's nowhere near the quality of other UMGs though -- pink floyd, bowie, zeppelin, etc -- so i would for sure say stick to cover price or thereabouts

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 16 April 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)

the Genesis one is siqq!

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 16 April 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)

feel like "astral traveler" is what the doors were always trying to pull off

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)

the only one i know is 4/20 is best when it's on a friday, everyone who's been in love before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rggxNnZQMQ4

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)

in the wake of the Fragile poll I'm listening to the B-side tracks of CTTE and Relayer

turns out once again And You And I is one of the most monumental things ever recorded, when Apocalypse kicks in it is more than heaven

and now Sound Chaser, sweet lord

I can't help but throw comparative shade at Fragile but really I'd like to celebrate these songs

imago, Friday, 20 April 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)

I just wish the actual verse of Sound Chaser was repeated a bit more, it's the best bit of the song

imago, Friday, 20 April 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)

you wanna hear something nuts, check out this dude playing Sound Chaser on solo piano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqR0AP7A_l4

this is like those dudes who get perfect scores on the really difficult Guitar Hero songs

frogbs, Friday, 20 April 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)

Thanks for the reply upthread , Reggie. Yeah it's a shame these things are nearly impossible to get in a cheap pdf version! Once in a while one pops up on a t0rr3nt but very rarely. I love their Zep and Pink Floyd ones.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 21 April 2018 00:01 (seven years ago)

Despite being oddly compiled (what with Relayer/GFTO/Tormato songs and different eras all jammed in) and not really a patch on the immortal Yessongs, I have a bit of a soft spot for Yesshows. It was my introduction to a bunch of those records (certainly Topographic Oceans, which I never owned) and Moraz, whose interplay with Howe blew me away. And the performances are uniformly quite good. For a dogs breakfast, it’s pretty likable.

Small moment: when they take like three minutes to introduce the band and crew, Jon gets momentarily lost in the groovy windup to “Ritual” and sings “Don’t put that funk in my face.”

It reminds me that for all their maximalist indulgence, long history and lineup permutations, there are still times when I actually think this band never reached its potential.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)

i just realized this thread is about the band Yes

flappy bird, Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)

Somebody buy flappy a beer

calstars, Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:17 (seven years ago)

I suspect there is some yesshame in preferring “soon” to TGoD but hey whatever

calstars, Monday, 23 April 2018 02:06 (seven years ago)

The HBO show "Divorce" featuring Thomas Haden Church and Sarah Jessica Parker, is all Yessed out. A recent episode involved the daughter expressing frustration with the music at a roller rink, leading to her dad (Paul Giamatti's merlot-drinking buddy in "Sideways") arranging for "The Gates of Delirium" to be blasted from the rink's PA. there are other great Yes references, too.
http://www.yesfans.com/showthread.php?85143-Yes-featured-on-HBO-s-Divorce

Prefecture, Monday, 23 April 2018 02:34 (seven years ago)

folks

I am enjoying 90125

imago, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:41 (seven years ago)

leading to her dad (Paul Giamatti's merlot-drinking buddy in "Sideways")

that's the dude from Wings show some respect

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)

this is the first time I wanted to watch that show

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)

now for big generator

let's attack bad-era yes head-on

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:00 (seven years ago)

that album's always been my answer to "what if The Police hadn't broken up?"

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)

yknow this is bad, but it isn't bad

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)

title track is a dreadful monstrosity but the rest is kind of nice

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:31 (seven years ago)

I'm Running is practically Cardiacs-inspired!

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)

you wish :)

I had a comp a long time ago that had the title track and it put me off the album for a long time. If you removed that track I think the album would have a better reputation

always liked "Almost Like Love", as goofy as that one is

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)

i have a hard time with big generator. they fell so hard after 90125, but it was a classic run -- 1969 - 1983 -- 14 years like the ideal number of songs on a perfect pop album

my short list of post-rabin studio jams: "without hope you cannot start the day"; "holding on"; "take the water to the mountain"; "real love"; "homeworld"; "lightning strikes / can i? / face to face"; "to be alive"; "new language"; "nine voices"; "madman at the screens"; "life on a film set"; and "into the storm"

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 April 2018 14:43 (seven years ago)

I'm Running is maybe top-ten Yes, fuck all y'all

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:43 (seven years ago)

Which album has Love Will Find a Way? That's some solid AOR.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:44 (seven years ago)

yeah that's on this one

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:46 (seven years ago)

But yeah, wow! If I like a deep cut from Big Bad Generator this much, what will I discover on their later, even badder albums? (I'm braced for 'nothing')

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:55 (seven years ago)

Talk is a pretty neat album. Always felt it was a bit underrated. It's definitely not as entertaining as 90125 or Big Generator though

a lot of Yes fans like the Keystudio stuff. I dug "That, That Is" a lot but it really doesn't need to be a 20 minute epic

lots of cool stuff on The Ladder (especially the title track which really is "classic Yes" in all its glory), but as an album it's very uneven

I remember liking Magnification a good amount but I don't really recall a single thing from it

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)

Shoot High, Aim Low is kind of a cool track

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:59 (seven years ago)

it's one of my favorite yes songs! there's a dropoff from 90125 to big generator but i don't think it's all that dramatic

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)

I've taken the wild decision that BG is even better

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)

Yo lj you wildin

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)

Hold On comes close but there's nothing quite as good as BG's highlights on 90125

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)

btw how the hell did Hold On get 0 votes in the 90125 poll, it sounds like the closing-credits music to an 80s eco-cop hero movie. The Emerald Weapon

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)

lj you need to spend way more time with 90125 my god

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)

nothing on big generator is as good as "leave it" or its several remixes

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)

I'm listening to 90125 again now haha. I only heard it for the first time the other day! It is a Powerful Mood

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)

When "Leave It" was released as a single, MTV played like 10 different variations on the video in a row.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)

who would believe you, LJ? wise men do

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)

imago, don't sleep on "Changes" or "It Can Happen"

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:26 (seven years ago)

I certainly won't sleep on them - I just heard them again. They're great. Leave It just began

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)

Yeah, v good. But as I say, it feels like they wrote I'm Running just for me. It's something I don't expect anyone else to go for as hard as I do. It's imagocore

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)

It's interesting to hear some of the 90125 demos to see just how much these are Chris Squire songs that got spliced with Trevor Rabin songs.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)

IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU
IT CAN HAPPEN TO ME
IT CAN HAPPEN TO EVERYONE EEE VENT YOU ALL EEE

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)

btw how the hell did Hold On get 0 votes in the 90125 poll, it sounds like the closing-credits music to an 80s eco-cop hero movie. The Emerald Weapon

Hold On is the tits. It starts off as this garish blues jam before exploding into an incredible chorus.

Let us agree that songs that feature Chris Squire prominently on vocals are inherently works of startling genius.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)

imago check out the "hello/goodbye" 12" mix of "leave it", it rules

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 19:08 (seven years ago)

lol that was the one i was gonna post

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)

Let us agree that songs that feature Chris Squire prominently on vocals are inherently works of startling genius.

― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, April 27, 2018 1:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(An answer to all of your answers to)...YEEESSSSSS!!!!!

Prefecture, Sunday, 29 April 2018 03:56 (seven years ago)

Is there a better "just got home from a party on Saturday night and feel like grabbing a beer and blasting some tunes for the remaining people in the house who i might have awaken(ed)" than "On The Silent Wings Of Freedom"?

Prefecture, Sunday, 29 April 2018 04:13 (seven years ago)

Jamming 90125 right now that's my word

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 April 2018 05:52 (seven years ago)

Yeah I've been playing the hell out of 90125

imago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 08:57 (seven years ago)

I think frogbs linked to this ages ago on another Yes thread.

Icelandic band Todmobile's cover of Awaken w/ Anderson guesting, a great arrangement, augmented by a choir, some brass and strings, they really know how to effectively pile on the layers for the very end section, best version I've heard so far (other than nitpicky issues with the bass player).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwspoyRdeV0

MaresNest, Sunday, 29 April 2018 09:56 (seven years ago)

I've taken the wild decision that BG is even better

― imago, Friday, April 27, 2018 1:00 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can feel no sense of measure

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 29 April 2018 12:00 (seven years ago)

holy shit, this version of Awaken

imago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 16:23 (seven years ago)

that's one of the greatest things ever recorded, surely

also, at the end of the video is the first time i've heard Roundabout and thought 'ah NOW i get it'

imago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 22:37 (seven years ago)

ya, this is terrific, even when it's not late at night

doug watson, Monday, 30 April 2018 13:43 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

So, there wasn't really this spirit of this magical, wonderful, open-hearted feeling of the word Yes that I expected, which sort of devastated me at first. It took me a couple of weeks to really understand that. I had just worked with Duran Duran and we'd had several number one songs.

http://zenponies.com/yitp/2001/mar/mar_01.html

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)

lmao

JE: There was no material. Basically, what there was was Steve (Howe) was working on a solo album (later released as Turbulence) and he brought in some things. Jon (Anderson) brought in one or two faint ideas. The problem is they hated each other so much at that point. I couldn't get Jon and Steve to sit down in a room together without me and the only way that Steve would do anything is to wake up and get very stoned and he was no good for the whole day after that. So we would sit down and try to write a few chords and here are my sort of kid pop idols and they couldn't string three chords together without fighting about what they were. And that was just putting Jon and Steve together, and constantly Steve would be badgering me about how he hated Jon's lyrics and how Jon had no good ideas. And Jon would say to me, 'Oh, Steve's just so washed out and Asia was such a horrible thing—look what it did to him.' You had Rick Wakeman who… all he wanted to do was get out there in the mix. And Rick had three or four parts that he would play, the same thing on everything. I would bring a Hammond organ in—he wouldn't touch the Hammond. He said, 'That's old-fashioned.' Not realising… well, he's so out of touch—what good would it have done had he played? I couldn't get these guys to sit down and write material without other people being in the room because of the social reasons. They had just been on the road for so many years and they probably had so many episodes with each other. Half of them couldn't really play any more. I mean, it was really sad. They were just sloppy and tired and old.

I guess that confirms everything I suspected about Union

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)

Just listened to Yessongs recently. Love how heavy the bit is after "I Get Up I Get Down".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_yXaZYZGDo

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

Cool. Where is that?

calstars, Saturday, 4 August 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

reach out as 'forward taste' begin to enter "you" "oo" "moo"

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 13 September 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

Got p Yessed out listening to the title track of "Close to the Edge" on the drive home last night, marvelling at how well something so busy hangs together as a large composition.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

steve howe's best guest bit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2N0TkfrQhY

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:16 (seven years ago)

That's great, didn't know about it. Don't know about any of his guest appearances.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 10 November 2018 14:17 (seven years ago)

i was watching that "other side of the wind" documentary when all of a sudden out of nowhere fucking heart of the sunrise showed up

what the hell does yes have to do with orson welles

for my money steve howe's best guitar solo is in tomorrow's version of "why", not strictly a guest bit i don't think

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 10 November 2018 23:23 (seven years ago)

When Yessearches Go Wrong (Yet Oh So Right), or
Watch, look over your shoulder, this one is strictly for you:

I was looking for the demos record called "90124", which led to a Trevor Rabin Spotify deep-dive. While said album wasn't there, I looked up/down/out/all around and located "Something to Hold On To" (it's a shame the band didn't add this track to "Big Generator", as it would be a total blast to hear between "Almost Like Love" and "Love will find a way"), and cranked the stereo to "middle drum section of 'The Gates of Delirium'-level" volume. As I scrolled through Trevor's oeuvre, I noticed that he scored a Jacaranda-esque number of soundtracks, including the epochal "Snakes on a Plane".

(Samuelljacksonsayingmotherfuckingplane.gif)!

The track titles are almost as hilarious as the movie:
-"Snakes on Crack"
-"Snake Chaos"
-"Serpent Situation"
-"Snakes Kill"
-"Snake Kabab" (perhaps that's how it's spelled in Johannesburg?)
-"Reptile Wrecker"

Next time you enter the (wait for it) cinema - especially anything directed or produced by Jerry Bruckheimer - check the credits, as our Trevor may have been responsible for that additional emotional gut-punch.

Prefecture, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 02:39 (seven years ago)

I'm guessing that for many of you, Yes has a heavy influence on your musical taste, to the point where you a song with a hint of their influence will quickly become one of your faves.

that recently happened to me, after discovering the song "Refugees" by South Australia-based Atlas Genius. If you ever wondered what it would sound like if a band said "What if The 1975 decided to base their sound on 'Big Generator'..."

In addition to 4 great chord progressions (verse, pre-chorus, chorus, bridge), "Refugees" has these awesome scream-along harmonies in the "Rhythm of Love" counter-melodic style that could lead a morning daydream through the fire to the water!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75dj5EGdxL4

Prefecture, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 03:30 (seven years ago)

they stand there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST97kob06Ss

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 24 November 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)

That's a pretty good version, interesting how Todd handles it vocally.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 November 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)

good cover, the still-image video cracks me up tho

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)

Lack of Wakeman organ riffs really leaves some holes in that tune.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:07 (seven years ago)

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/yes-songs-ranked/

nice to see respect for "survival"

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:24 (seven years ago)

Howe as guest star? Hmmm -- I know he played on this album (along with David Sylvian among others!) and always felt the little Wes Montgomeryish guitar moment at 3:25 sounds pretty Howeish:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzt2iSNyN8Q

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 December 2018 01:28 (seven years ago)

wtf there is no way "Man in the Moon" is worse than "It Was All We Knew"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:19 (seven years ago)

lots of rankings on that list are straight up bullshit (i particularly don't get all the challopsy stanning for open your eyes) but it's refreshing to read an overview of their stuff that goes past 90215

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:36 (seven years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.facebook.com/motherearth1000/posts/646902405764619

tried hard to refrain from making the drive-thru joke but I couldn't help it

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 15:10 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

god i am so yessed out rn

j., Friday, 29 March 2019 00:56 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSak3PG-tjg

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 March 2019 03:07 (six years ago)

one month passes...

wondrous rainy day album: tales from topographic oceans

man.

there was never any doubt since the first time i heard it; it's easily my favorite thing any of those people ever did. steve howe is just in another galaxy the entire time.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 20:53 (six years ago)

that bit on Side 2 (where Jon sings "relayer…") has one of the best guitar riffs ever

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

Korekojinn does an amazing "Yes medley" (all their best stuff in like 5 minutes) and when that part came on I was frustrated because I couldn't remember what it was from. but it got me listening to Tales again, because honestly where else would it be

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:36 (six years ago)

I dunno, to me, Yes is nighttime music, 'cos like, when a lot of us first heard it, we were curled up in bed and the parents were asleep we were sneaking in a listen to the rock radio, so it's like a good memory. The radio stations were better at night, they'd play more obscure songs or albums and stuff.

Have you tried Night of Olay? (I M Losted), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:01 (six years ago)

three months pass...

I love “awaken” so much

calstars, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:18 (six years ago)

one month passes...

sometimes, under certain circumstances and alcohol levels, the yessing becomes necessary

mookieproof, Friday, 18 October 2019 04:41 (six years ago)

('roundabout' being played at last night's hockey game was not, but it doesn't take much)

mookieproof, Friday, 18 October 2019 04:45 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospDSOyjuC4

pplains, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:02 (six years ago)

Sister bluebird, flying high above

calstars, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

Big Generator: title track is fun and "Rhythm Of Love" is pretty good. "Final Eyes" has a lot of nice things going on but doesn't quite make it. "I'm Running" is the obvious highlight for me, hope they have more stuff like this, Yes or solo Jon doing some kind of world/tropical thing makes a lot of sense to me.
Really should have cut "Love Will Find A Way". I liked some of Rabin's songs on previous album's bonus tracks but this is just rote pop. The rest is "meh" to okay.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 October 2019 19:05 (six years ago)

cold-blooded to drop this on jon anderson's 75th birthday

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/yes-reveals-four-previously-unreleased-2010-recordings-on-the-new-from-a-page-mini-box-set/

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 25 October 2019 23:44 (six years ago)

Wore this last week

calstars, Saturday, 26 October 2019 01:00 (six years ago)

I read about Jon's new album, I think 1000 people are on it, tons of guest stars, some of the recordings date back to the 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000_Hands:_Chapter_One

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 October 2019 12:37 (six years ago)

Totally new to me that Anderson was the godfather of Ari Up.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 October 2019 13:16 (six years ago)

wow, Larry Coryell *sheds tear*

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:41 (six years ago)

How was he involved?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:51 (six years ago)

Heard a number of people say it’s his best solo effort since Olais but idk if that’s a compliment

I think it’s pretty nice, more modern sounding than I was expecting and way better than the “Make me Happy” single implied it would be

frogbs, Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

all i know can be shown by your acceptance of the facts there shown before you

mookieproof, Sunday, 27 October 2019 00:34 (six years ago)

Heard a number of people say it’s his best solo effort since Olais but idk if that’s a compliment

Haven't heard this new one yet but the album he did with Roine Stolt in 2016, Invention of Knowledge, was pretty great.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 27 October 2019 00:55 (six years ago)

JA's 1,000 Hands has my favorite new "yes" music since fly from here

this sounds way better than heaven & earth but still pretty shitty of them to surprise-release this "new" stuff on JA's 75th birthday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUK_frQEsQ

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 27 October 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

Invention of Knowledge is pretty good but idk if it's a true solo album. I kinda assumed Stolt wrote most of the music there

this new EP (?) looks pretty decent, Benoit David sounds a lot better than I remember him

lol that they're packaging this with a pretty lame live set, cmon guys

frogbs, Monday, 28 October 2019 19:48 (six years ago)

the level of commitment here to post-anderson yes deserves a characterization stronger than "yessed out"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 October 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

like maybe "yessed af" or "hyperyessed"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 October 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

or "yessgottabekiddin'!"

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 28 October 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMpdxAxDjw

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:57 (six years ago)

https://www.altpress.com/features/battles-juice-b-crypts-interview/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

Just a bit of backstory on it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

one month passes...

political ends as sad remains will die

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 December 2019 04:56 (six years ago)

I spun 'Animation' the other day- definitely not Yes but it had its moments.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 20 December 2019 04:32 (six years ago)

they move fast
they tell me
but i just can't believe
that i can feeeeeeel iiiiiiiit

clouds, Saturday, 21 December 2019 14:33 (six years ago)

ok the 4-song EP with Benoit David is actually pretty nice

frogbs, Monday, 30 December 2019 14:32 (six years ago)

two months pass...

Sharp distancing

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:34 (five years ago)

i feel lost in the cityyyyyyyy

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:36 (five years ago)

awaken gentle mass DON'T touch

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:44 (five years ago)

lol reggie

doug watson, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:15 (five years ago)

yessed out rn in fact

j., Friday, 27 March 2020 21:24 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

Has this been linked before?

http://yessongs.nl/

A dizzying amount of live recordings and studio outtakes from all eras, endless amounts of stuff and no hoops to jump through.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 12 April 2020 18:40 (five years ago)

And there you are
Saying we have the moon
So now the stars

jmm, Sunday, 12 April 2020 19:09 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

yesterday, a morning came. a smile upon your face!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 01:57 (five years ago)

love it when late at night does qualmsley get yessed out

j., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 04:14 (five years ago)

Silly human race

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 04:27 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

I’m listening to the Anderson Bruford wakeman howe album from 89. I know it’s the 80s but that gated snare just kills Howe’s feel. Tons of synthy bleep bloops. Anderson going on about deserts and religions.

calstars, Saturday, 23 May 2020 20:47 (five years ago)

a lot of the best deserts started in religions

budo jeru, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:21 (five years ago)

was that a typo for "deserets"

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:25 (five years ago)

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness and tales from topographic oceans.

budo jeru, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:47 (five years ago)

I was going to ask in the Rough Guide requests thread, but it hasn't been opened in 14 years.

Could any kind soul please provide a map to the good stuff from their output from 90125 to present day?

I have heard some things from that period but I don't feel up to a qualitative audit and am sure there must be some worthy tunes hiding in there.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:27 (five years ago)

i like pretty much everything on 90125. "city of love" is my least favorite, though the chorus is HUGE, and i think its moodiness sets up the finale, "hearts", really well

never been able to get into big generator

songs i listen to on union -- "masquerade", "lift me up", "without hope you cannot start the day", "silent talking", "holding on", and "take the water to the mountain"

the only song on talk i'd say is a keeper is "real love", though if you can find a version of "endless dream" that's one track, that's worth a listen

i go back and forth with keystudio -- give the first song, "footprints", a listen, and if that does it for you, keep going. otherwise, skip it

open your eyes -- skip it

the ladder rules. "homeworld", "it will be a good day", "lightning strikes"/"can i?"/"face to face", "to be alive", "new language", and "nine voices" all feature classic yes spirit in part or all the way through

never been able to get into magnification

fly from here rules, both versions (david's vocals and trevor's vocals, a few years later). "sad night at the airfield", "madman at the screens", "life on a film set", "hour of need", and "into the storm" are all worth your time

if open your eyes isn't the worst yes album, then heaven & earth is

some solo stuff you might want to check out

trevor rabin -- jacaranda. this is the best stuff i've heard from him since 90125

jon anderson -- his most recent album, 1000 hands, has some decent jams on it, as does the album he recorded with jean-luc ponty. i keep giving the one he recorded with roine stolt a chance, but nothing ever sticks

skyscraper souls (geoff downes and chris braide) is the most underrated recentish solo project i've heard. andy partridge is on half the songs, kate pierson sings backing vocals on the 18-minute epic, and marc almond sings on one of the other songs

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:16 (five years ago)

Big Generator - pretty decent if you like 90125, kinda sounds to me like what The Police would've become had they not split in '86. The title track single is pretty bad but I like most of the rest.

Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - all I can remember from this one is fucking "Teikbois" but it's kinda okay, its got a whole lotta Jon on it though

Union - as bad as everyone says it is. only the solo Howe instrumental is worth saving.

Talk - fairly decent, has their first bona fide epic in forever and a lot of it is pretty if kinda New Ageish. despite being sort of a trilogy with 90125 and BG I don't think it really sounds like those albums.

Keys to Ascension - half studio and half live, I guess this is okay if you wanna hear the classic Yes lineup operating at 80% capacity. some of the new tunes are pretty good but mostly they're just long. It does have that "classic Yes" feel to it in spots.

Open Your Eyes - roundly derided by most of their fans, I actually feel it's a pretty decent pop album, just don't expect classic Yes

The Ladder - the title track here is absolutely a return to their classic glory, IMO the best thing they've done since Drama. unfortunately the rest of the album is kinda lightweight and gimmicky, but they do some interesting things like embrace a bit of electronica and sample their old records. could've been the start of a legit comeback but it was not to be.

Magnification - recorded with an orchestra as they'd sacked their keyboard player for getting too handsy with a security guard. Actually quite good, just not as hooky as they usually are.

Fly From Here - the sequel to Drama that nobody really asked for, with Downes and Horn back on board. some of the material dates back to 1980 but I think that element is sort of overstated, most of the music is new. As you might expect it's not quite as good as Drama but it's actually pretty close, clearly one of their best efforts since 90125. The final track "Into the Storm" is particularly good. For some reason they re-made this album in 2018, replacing one-time singer Benoit David with Horn - the new version is probably the better one but I feel bad for the dude.

Heaven & Earth - their most recent and famously a total dud. some of the songs are actually kinda catchy but it's ridiculously lethargic, especially coming after FFH which was sort of a shot in the arm. almost falls into "so bad it's good" territory, it's one of those albums you enjoy a bit despite yourself

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:18 (five years ago)

agree with these assessments. 90125, the Ladder, and FFH (either version) are the only really strong albums in this batch, and Talk, Open Your Eyes, and Heaven and Earth are absolutely terrible.

They recently released a few more old tracks with Benoit David on the 'From a Page' box, and those songs are pretty good but not super memorable. certainly better than anything on H&E though.

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:26 (five years ago)

I never liked Big Generator, it loses all the interesting subtlety that was on 90125 and becomes a bombastic mess; Talk is even worse in this regard.

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:27 (five years ago)

yea at best a lot of these albums are guilty pleasures, I have a lot of goodwill towards Yes so I probably overrate a lot of it as "really not that bad". if it wasn't Yes I'd probably only listen to Fly From Here and "The Ladder"

"That, That Is" from KTA has a pretty gnarly riff on it though, sucks that it's buried in a 20 minute epic. Tales-esque really

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:33 (five years ago)

Thanks folks!

So it seems like a general paucity of good music considering the amount of records they'e made since '83, kinda amazing really.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:36 (five years ago)

the degree to which these guys fucking hated each other after 1977 is not to be understated

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:47 (five years ago)

I'm quite a fan of Magnification and there's at least 2 or 3 songs I really liked on Big Generator.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:49 (five years ago)

i really want to like magnification -- yes with an orchestra for the first time since time and a word! but i don't know, maybe they slowed the tempos a bit too much to accommodate that orchestra? maybe they were missing igor, who'd brought so much energy to the ladder? i've never found a way in; if you have any song suggestions, i'd appreciate it!

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:48 (five years ago)

I wrote a big ranking of their albums for Stereogum almost exactly 5 years ago. I liked Talk and Magnification better than some others above.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:02 (five years ago)

it’s a safe bet that the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame will burn to the ground before they’ll be inducted.

Hope you didn't put too much money on this!

some infected evening (Matt #2), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:49 (five years ago)

I was really into Union when it came out, and even went to see them on that tour, which was an incredibly dull concert despite being the first time the classic lineup had been together since CttE.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 May 2020 01:04 (five years ago)

I always though this thread was a euphemism for something more interesting.

I was wrong.

Yerac, Friday, 29 May 2020 01:07 (five years ago)

But what could be more interesting than getting all yessed out on a Thursday night?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 May 2020 01:10 (five years ago)

I forgot about Magnification. The songs on it are really good but something about the presence of the orchestra makes it very bleh. There's nothing objectionable about it, it's just missing some spark.

akm, Friday, 29 May 2020 01:28 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

no doubt they were all celebrating dock ellis

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2020 02:19 (five years ago)

one month passes...

happy ye(l)s(d) day!

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 8 August 2020 13:41 (five years ago)

12:30am and I'm Yessing out to these clips just posted by Beat Club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx_GIji9EGw

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 20 August 2020 07:27 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaZRACHMSk

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 20 August 2020 07:28 (five years ago)

Bruford's drum faces always pretty funny.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 20 August 2020 07:52 (five years ago)

for some reason probably because i hate yes it was only yesterday that i heard "parallels" for the first time and it was one of those surprising "wait hold on i actually like this song" experiences

i'm sure as hell not going to listen to every yes song just on the off chance that i might like one of them but it's nice when it happens

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 August 2020 14:03 (five years ago)

I've never considered clicking on the thread of a band I don't like but I can't think of a single band I hate.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 20 August 2020 17:49 (five years ago)

one month passes...

INSTEAD OF WATCHING THE VP DEBATE I AM LISTENING TO RELAYER GOD this record is fucking insane

frogbs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 03:08 (five years ago)

its like....Evil Yes

frogbs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 03:10 (five years ago)

listen

should we fight forever

knowing as we do know

fear destroys?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 October 2020 03:22 (five years ago)

exactly!! when does Good Jon ever write lyrics like that?

frogbs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 03:30 (five years ago)

<3

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 October 2020 03:33 (five years ago)

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3362163313902980

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 23:25 (five years ago)

gentle masks dont touch

dow, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 23:29 (five years ago)

I mean you expect us to log in to a Facebook post📘😊? Just not going to happen

calstars, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 23:31 (five years ago)

Just post a link to south side lmfao

calstars, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 23:32 (five years ago)

wtf WOW

J. Sam, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:35 (five years ago)

never thought I'd see the day Jon Anderson used the phrase "soulless motherfucker" in a song

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:42 (five years ago)

Holy shit, amazing!

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:46 (five years ago)

TS: "Go Screw Yourself" vs "With All Due Respect"

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:55 (five years ago)

"If I may"

Garu’s Got a Rona (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:55 (five years ago)

wow... one for the This Must Be A Tim & Eric Sketch thread?

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:00 (five years ago)

I'm unclear on the message here. I thought the unflattering images of Trump in the first chorus meant this was anti-Trump but he's not really a sweet-talker and there are images of Democrats as well, and we see both "gun rights" and "gun control", for instance. So then I thought it might be just general 'both-sides' fatigue like the deYoung song but there are also lots of reminders to vote.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:04 (five years ago)

lol yeah "all politicians are crooks but you should get out and vote for them anyway" is kind of a weird message

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:07 (five years ago)

This video is unlisted apparently? This suggests an additional layer of, uh, ambivalence.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:36 (five years ago)

Eating an edible in preparation for getting all Yessed out tonight with the 3xLP of Yessongs

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 00:21 (five years ago)

i hope the edible starts kicking in once howe starts vamping right before the opening riff of "yours is no disgrace"

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 October 2020 00:29 (five years ago)

#jelly

calstars, Friday, 16 October 2020 00:49 (five years ago)

i should say, i hope the second edible kicks in at that point

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 October 2020 00:59 (five years ago)

I just hope the thing plays alright, it was three dollars and it looks like its survived multiple hurricanes

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:12 (five years ago)

more like multiple tormatoes amirite

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:34 (five years ago)

xpost I misread that as three LP copies of Yessongs. Like, analog Zaireeka.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:40 (five years ago)

alright here we go

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 02:13 (five years ago)

every copy of yessongs i’ve ever seen looks like it was used for many joint rollings and/or warhammer matches

brimstead, Friday, 16 October 2020 02:20 (five years ago)

oh damn there's a little book in here

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 02:21 (five years ago)

lmao @ the audience hootin and hollerin for "Excerpts from 'The Six Wives of Henry VIII'"

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 03:08 (five years ago)

man how the fuck do you play Close to the Edge

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 03:47 (five years ago)

Just plow right through it

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 16 October 2020 03:56 (five years ago)

wow this is really kickin' in

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 04:00 (five years ago)

i hope the edible starts kicking in once howe starts vamping right before the opening riff of "yours is no disgrace"

HA HA YES THIS IS VERY GOOD

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 04:06 (five years ago)

my god this Yours Is No Disgrace is the best thing I've ever heard

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 04:18 (five years ago)

ok i looked it up and it really is 14 minutes long. thats not just the gummy bear talkin

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 04:20 (five years ago)

this is great i am getting yessed out vicariously

Deflatormouse, Friday, 16 October 2020 07:11 (five years ago)

The Yes equivalent of Zaireeka is simultaneously playing all five mid-70s solo albums.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 16 October 2020 14:23 (five years ago)

Hah, totally had a mental picture of frogbs having some sort of R Crumb/Zap Comix freakout, astral rabbit-hole moment whilst balancing his copy of YesSongs on his knee.

Maresn3st, Friday, 16 October 2020 14:36 (five years ago)

yessongs is probably their single best recording, and yeah the "total mass retain" section of "close to the edge" has a totally impossible groove, no idea how they pull it off

covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 October 2020 14:47 (five years ago)

Only a seasoned witch could pull off such a groove.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:10 (five years ago)

I actually don't think I've listened to Yessongs since the early 90s, maybe I should give it a spin. Lack of Bill Bruford always ticked me off.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:14 (five years ago)

Oooh whatta ride! Jealous!!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:16 (five years ago)

alan white does a pretty good job for a guy who had to learn all these crazy difficult songs with limited-to-zero rehearsals

covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:31 (five years ago)

It was definitely a tough situation to be thrown into

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:40 (five years ago)

Yessongs was the first Yes album I bought; I wasn't sure where to start with their catalog so I figured "Live album? Sure, OK." Definitely the right choice. When I went back for the studio albums, I knew what I was looking for. (I was still totally unprpeared for Relayer, of course.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:43 (five years ago)

Bruford does actually play drums on bits of Yessongs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yessongs#Personnel

logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:05 (five years ago)

the version of "The Fish" on here is also quite insane

have a new level of respect for these guys now, even stuff like Howe having to play that same twisting riff for like six minutes straight on "Siberian Khatru" just seems incredibly difficult

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 16:12 (five years ago)

Oh wow, I have these LPs. I haven't spun them in a little while but I remember really liking them, esp the version of "Close to the Edge". I'm excited to listen again.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:20 (five years ago)

I guess tonight I'll have to put on its companion, Welcome Back My Friends, To the Show That Never Ends, Ladies and Gentlemen, Emerson, Lake, and Palmer

frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 16:25 (five years ago)

Bruford does actually play drums on bits of Yessongs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yessongs#Personnel

― logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Friday, October 16, 2020 11:05 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

true, but that still leaves wild drum parts like "siberian khatru," "heart of the sunrise," and the aforementioned "total mass retain" for alan white

covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:26 (five years ago)

Yeah the lad did a good job at short notice, he gets unfairly maligned imo.

logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Friday, 16 October 2020 16:31 (five years ago)

Finally got them out. Man, that version of "Perpetual Change" is everything I love about these guys.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 October 2020 16:09 (five years ago)

“Sharp!”

calstars, Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:32 (five years ago)

It’s a boring pick for best live prog album (I usually go with GGs Playing the Fool) but it’s the right choice

frogbs, Sunday, 25 October 2020 19:51 (five years ago)

for sheer listening pleasure i'll take the three record run from the yes album - close to the edge over just about anything. to have been in the audience for that close to the edge tour on mushrooms must have been a peak aesthetic experience, like hanging out in bach's church back in the day drunk on communion wine. just imagine! the motherlode they released in progeny of all the shows that went into yessongs is a sweet consolation though

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 October 2020 20:04 (five years ago)

I'll say it again: their debut is painfully underrated. Probably in my top 5.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:11 (five years ago)

My choice for best live prog album might be USA by King Crimson or Concerts by Henry Cow. I love Yes but the live albums don't tell me anything I didn't already know about their music. The Yessongs movie is worthwhile though.

I only heard the debut years after I'd heard most of the other albums - it was a lot heavier than I had been led to expect, but Peter Banks doesn't particularly distinguish himself and the covers on it and Time and a Word are pretty weak and ill-conceived. I remember reading somewhere that, in this era, they would play a version of the Young Rascals' Good Lovin' with a 20 minute bass solo in the middle.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 25 October 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

Listened to Vol. III this morning. I'd forgotten how great that version of "Close to the Edge" is, jeez. It's actually the first I ever heard. The live version of "Yours Is No Disgrace" really grooves too

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 14:19 (five years ago)

holy shit i heard Mr Anderson's Olias of Sunhillow for the first time this week and it is SO good. bits of it hit the same pleasure centres for me that tangerine dream / early animal collective do. big recommend for those haven't heard it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRHC-nTufaQ

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 15:12 (five years ago)

to have been in the audience for that close to the edge tour on mushrooms

<<raises hand>>
well, except for the mushrooms part. my second ever concert. late '72, nassau coliseum, sadly not w/bruford.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 15:51 (five years ago)

damn! lucky you. the first time i ever got to see them was way later, when i was really young, the ABWH tour, then the second time, in the round on the union tour. they ruled as much as i was hoping. can't begin to imagine what those songs sounded like fresh

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 2 November 2020 15:21 (five years ago)

the first yes binge is always a gratifying relief after months of OCD musical exploration

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 2 November 2020 15:21 (five years ago)

all i remember (i was 14, i guess?) was how cool they looked with the hair and that cape and the super high boots, all seen through the scary smoky adult haze that was the nassau coliseum in 1972.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 2 November 2020 19:55 (five years ago)

I saw the Big Generator tour and they absolutely smoked

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:33 (five years ago)

SCHIN

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 November 2020 05:27 (five years ago)

Saw them in 2003 in NYC and it was one of the most intense concert experiences I’ve had for both good and bad reasons. And I’ve been to plenty of intense shows,

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 15 November 2020 06:02 (five years ago)

What were the bad reasons?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:42 (five years ago)

Holy shit. I did not ever need to hear Yes covering "Imagine", what a train wreck.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 21:14 (five years ago)

xpost Drunken upstate NY redneck audience ( seemed to be a big part of the turnout) booing Jon Anderson’s guru when she came out to give NYC a blessing. Just a nasty loutish crowd when they weren’t getting that glorious music. And it *was* glorious. I think the show is on YT.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 22:56 (five years ago)

I say “Upstate NY” but those hicks probably came from all over the Tri-State ( NY, NJ, Connecticut).

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 23:00 (five years ago)

Yeah I saw them around 2005 and it was really good. I remember Jon talking about a new Tales-type album coming out. Sucks it never happened. I think after Magnification they could’ve mounted a nice late career comeback but as always interband drama derailed it

frogbs, Thursday, 19 November 2020 00:10 (five years ago)

I think I'm gonna get Yessed out right now

the record store in Green Bay that I bought a lot of shit from was a total Yeshead. one day I walked in and he was playing "Yours is No Disgrace" at max volume and that was the moment I decided I needed an expensive soundsystem

frogbs, Thursday, 19 November 2020 04:07 (five years ago)

also the first and only time I've bought a record directly off the turntable. just put it on in fact

frogbs, Thursday, 19 November 2020 04:08 (five years ago)

wow I never noticed the instrumental part 5 minutes into "Perpetual Change" coalesces into all parts of the song playing at once

frogbs, Thursday, 19 November 2020 04:43 (five years ago)

:D

YES epiphanies are always a pleasure to read!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 19 November 2020 08:04 (five years ago)

My show was 2004, actually. And here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez07S8hoE3g

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 19 November 2020 08:08 (five years ago)

Jump to “South Side Of The Sky” on that video for a good sample of what was in store for the audience that night. That’s when it really took off.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 19 November 2020 08:24 (five years ago)

Serious Yes confessions: I saw them twice on the Union tour (the only times I've seen them).

the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:46 (five years ago)

another thing I noticed last night - Howe sneaks that weird up n' down riff in a few places on "Yours is no Disgrace"...I don't know how to describe this exactly but it's close to the riff that kicks off "Close to the Edge"

frogbs, Thursday, 19 November 2020 20:23 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

so I think the middle section in "Sound Chaser" and the ending of "Gates of Delirium" (the part before "Soon") are probably the two greatest prog instrumental jams of all time

frogbs, Friday, 4 December 2020 03:55 (five years ago)

not sure i agree but i love that you are thinking about it

mookieproof, Friday, 4 December 2020 04:21 (five years ago)

**taps on wristwatch**

frogbs, Friday, 4 December 2020 04:27 (five years ago)

been jamming "heart of the sunrise" lately

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2020 04:29 (five years ago)

been drinking water lately

mookieproof, Friday, 4 December 2020 04:39 (five years ago)

to have been in the audience for that close to the edge tour on mushrooms must have been a peak aesthetic experience, Was not on shrooms just then alas but a security guard opened the side door and motioned Tall Paul and me in---down a little hallway to the wings, where we heard bass & drums up front, though no prob w guitar, keys, helium vocals. Pretty great, and not to be anywhere near-replicated at home unless somebody trusted me w the EQ, and it would have to be a really good EQ. Even then, still not an impact equiv to live of course: nobody had speakers that good at home.

dow, Friday, 4 December 2020 04:42 (five years ago)

so I think the middle section in "Sound Chaser" and the ending of "Gates of Delirium" (the part before "Soon") are probably the two greatest prog instrumental jams of all time

I tend to agree, even though some shorter Van der Graaf Generator passages might come close. (I'm not counting post '72 King Crimson, as their instrumental jams, which are the greatest, don't register to me as "proggy".

jvc, Friday, 4 December 2020 16:01 (five years ago)

Gates of Delirium maybe, I find the middle of Sound Chaser a little too oblique. Don't know whether you would consider the ending of Starless a "jam".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 4 December 2020 16:45 (five years ago)

one month passes...

Just saw this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLMoLoGfjyQ

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:27 (five years ago)

That is very well done as these things go.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:37 (five years ago)

Yes on stage at the Crystal Palace Bowl, London, UK, 1971 pic.twitter.com/Am0fDvUGS5

— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) January 30, 2021

calstars, Saturday, 30 January 2021 01:22 (five years ago)

What is that keyboard pedalboard Squire is playing? It's too early to be a Taurus, I think.

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:29 (five years ago)

He looks like a dr Seuss character

calstars, Saturday, 30 January 2021 06:11 (five years ago)

Big fan of Squire's foofy boots here.

kicked off mumsnet for speaking my mind (Matt #2), Saturday, 30 January 2021 10:51 (five years ago)

I suspect the pedalboard doesn't actually work, he's just miming so that people pay more attention to the footwear.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 30 January 2021 18:38 (five years ago)

What is that keyboard pedalboard Squire is playing? It's too early to be a Taurus, I think.

My keyboard guru got back in touch to tell me they seem to be a set of Dewtron Mr.Bassman pedals: https://www.matrixsynth.com/2013/10/early-1970s-dewtron-mister-bassman-bass.html

kicked off mumsnet for speaking my mind (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 15:58 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppLsvpwZchA

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 17:50 (five years ago)

Ah, thanks. Why did Squire need a bass synth pedalboard? I get that Geddy Lee used them when he played keyboards.

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 17:52 (five years ago)

They had a deep, well-rounded tonality, so good for punctuation in parallel with his handful-of-gravel-hitting-a-tin-bath bass sound, I imagine he probably didn't really need it once Wakeman moved in.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 17:56 (five years ago)

End of Starship Trooper for a start!

kicked off mumsnet for speaking my mind (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 17:56 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2DQua8h82M why is howe in the video?

xzanfar, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 18:03 (five years ago)

Silly human race

calstars, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 18:33 (five years ago)

that '71 concert includes the Paul Simon tune 'america' - love hearing little Jon sing about the New Jersey turnpike

calstars, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:43 (five years ago)

the studio version of "America" is fantastic

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:49 (five years ago)

did i dream that they once did a live version where they mashed up simon & garfunkel's "america" with west side story's "america"?

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:00 (five years ago)

Maybe you're thinking about The Nice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLVEIGsG1Og

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:03 (five years ago)

yeah i think i mashed those two up in my mind. but there's a free idea for any enterprising band that wants it.

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:08 (five years ago)

finally listening to Yesshows, I don't think I've ever actually heard this before. you know how copies of Yessongs & ELP's Welcome Back My Friends are always beat to shit? with Yesshows and ELP's In Concert it's the opposite, every copy I see looks pristine, which to me is a signal that the people who bought these listened to it once or twice before filing it away forever.

still, it's pretty good! "Gates", much like "Close to the Edge" on Yessongs, seems like something it would be impossible to do live. and despite being 10 minutes longer than the studio version I think "Ritual" absolves itself quite well, though it's pretty fucking endless ain't it?

frogbs, Thursday, 11 February 2021 20:11 (five years ago)

"Ritual" is my least favourite side of Tales, the first side is wonderful and each subsequent one a little less so. I don't really want to hear extended bass solos even from Squire, never mind percussion improvisations.
I do appreciate that they didn't include any of the pieces they had already done on Yessongs, I'm glad they took pride in their more recent material (and "Time and a Word").

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 February 2021 20:24 (five years ago)

the percussion bit is pretty cool I think, even if only because it's something they'd never really done before. I think the live take injects far more energy. But it's not exactly Close to Close to the Edge

imo sides 1 & 4 of Tales are the best, though my favorite section is the amazing funky riff on side 2. side 3 I never remember a thing about other than it has a lot of Steve Howe licking the strings

frogbs, Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:36 (five years ago)

guess what album turned 50 today. i'll give you a hint it has 5 guys standing around a chair and the first song is Yours Is No Disgrace

frogbs, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:24 (five years ago)

Oh nice, getting Yessed out to "Starship Trooper" rn. I'll be putting the LP on when cleaning the apartment tomorrow.

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:31 (five years ago)

I just got my new turntable today I guess this is the first record I'm playing

frogbs, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:36 (five years ago)

Oh Yes. The Yes Album: possibly the most uplifting album I know of. So full of unbridled positive energy. I don't have it on vinyl and this is something I need to remedy ASAP

J. Sam, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:48 (five years ago)

caesars' palace, frogbs' phono

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:57 (five years ago)

shining flying purple bullfrogbs

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 February 2021 05:00 (five years ago)

Steve Howe is so good. he plays the guitar the way i would imagine a spider playing a guitar

frogbs, Saturday, 20 February 2021 05:03 (five years ago)

Yes!

J. Sam, Saturday, 20 February 2021 05:09 (five years ago)

Currently wearing my XXL black Relayer sweatshirt

J. Sam, Saturday, 20 February 2021 05:10 (five years ago)

Silly human race

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:27 PM (nine months ago)

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 20 February 2021 06:12 (five years ago)

In some ways their most impressive album, in that it's still very much rock music, but a completely fresh and wild take on it

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 09:14 (five years ago)

hey frogbs how's it sounding? i've been spinning Olias Of Sunhillow and it is great when i'm in the right mood. i keep waiting for it to start.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 20 February 2021 10:01 (five years ago)

Speaking of which:
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/jon-anderson-olias-of-sunhillow-2-disc-remastered-expanded-edition/

Released March 26, 2021

• A NEWLY REMASTERED & EXPANDED 2 DISC EDITION OF THE LEGENDARY 1976 SOLO ALBUM BY YES VOCALIST JON ANDERSON
• NEWLY REMASTERED FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES
• FEATURES A DVD WITH A HIGH RESOLUTION 96 kHz / 24-BIT REMASTER OF THE ORIGINAL STEREO MIX ALONG WITH A 5.1 SURROUND SOUND UP-MIX DERIVED FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES
• WITH FULLY RESTORED ARTWORK AND AN ESSAY WITH AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH JON ANDERSON
• INCLUDES ILLUSTRATED BOOKLET WITH NEW ESSAY

spot fuckify (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 February 2021 10:11 (five years ago)

Was it necessary for Yes to replace Kaye with Wakeman in order to achieve the level of commercial and musical success they did with Fragile?

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:25 (five years ago)

I think Tony Kaye didn't like playing anything other than the Hammond, but by that time synthesizers and Mellotrons etc were all the rage so just sticking to the organ would have seemed a little dated. Plus Wakeman was a much better and more versatile musician.

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:31 (five years ago)

Sure, but I get the impression some comments above are hinting that something was lost between The Yes Album and Fragile, and it's hard to pin that on anything other than Kaye's departure.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:41 (five years ago)

I don’t think Kaye’s presence made much of a huge musical difference. He was a fine player but I dunno... maybe their minds were expanding, musically, as a unit and someone as —um — expansive as Wakeman fit where they were headed much better than Kaye?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:47 (five years ago)

Wakeman brought a neoclassical flair to the band that made Fragile and later works possible, but this also diluted the rock elements that made Yes Album so effective. So I think it was necessary, but meant losing a more focused rock energy.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:53 (five years ago)

I'm not sure why Fragile is so inferior (imo) but it is. The songs just aren't nearly as strong. They were transitioning away from being a rock group into something else, and they rushed out their transitional album

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:55 (five years ago)

Or what Moodles said

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:55 (five years ago)

One listen to Kaye's post-Yes band Badger tells you where he was at musically, kind of blues prog. I don't think they'd have made Close to the Edge with him still there. Topographic Oceans neither, but that's another story.

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:56 (five years ago)

The Yes Album and Fragile would both be much better with the shorter songs excised, other than Long Distance Runaround/The Fish.

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:57 (five years ago)

Another way to look at is that Kaye was willing to chug away and let Howe take the lead. With Wakeman, you end up having two lead instrumental voices battling it out for space.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:58 (five years ago)

Do you mean "Clap" and "A Venture " from the Yes Album? Really disagree there.

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:59 (five years ago)

Xp

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:59 (five years ago)

Squire was always the lead instrumentalist but yes fine ;)

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 14:59 (five years ago)

I like Fragile a lot too, though!

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:00 (five years ago)

The three epic tracks are all amazing, "Long Distance Runaround" is delightful, and the short solo excursions are nice diversions.

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:02 (five years ago)

Squire is much more melodic than your average bass player, but he still mostly plays the traditional bass role with Howe and Wakeman often layering in lead squiggles over the top.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:03 (five years ago)

I thought the shorter tracks on The Yes Album and Fragile broke the flow, although they're not bad in and of themselves (with the exception of "Cans & Brahms", which is the worst track Yes ever put to tape by a long way and I'm including "Circus of Heaven" in that).

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:20 (five years ago)

Squire is much more melodic than your average bass player, but he still mostly plays the traditional bass role with Howe and Wakeman often layering in lead squiggles over the top.

This is where it all started going wrong on Topographic Oceans for me, the keys and bass are more like colouring or back-up instruments while Howe and Anderson wank off endlessly on top.

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:22 (five years ago)

hey frogbs how's it sounding? i've been spinning Olias Of Sunhillow and it is great when i'm in the right mood. i keep waiting for it to start.

was pretty fucking amazing. I've always wanted a copy of Olias, should probably pull the trigger on that some day. judging by my last haul apparently I am in the "get all the 74-76 solo albums" phase now

IMO Fragile is better than TYA but I guess I'll have to confirm this when the sun goes down (4:30 PM)

frogbs, Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:32 (five years ago)

I heard the first two albums long after I knew the rest of the catalogue, and I was surprised to find that Time and a Word featured Kaye much more than the Yes Album did. Of course, Peter Banks was a much more retiring guitarist than Howe, so it may be that Kaye stepped up when there was more room to fill, and stepped back as Howe took the reins. I guess it's also worth noting the Kaye only took 1/5 songwriting credit on a single song in his three albums with the band.

One thing that I read awhile ago that might not be apparent from the records or the credits was how much Wakeman had to do with coming up with transitions between musical bits; since he was the only one with a serious musical education, he knew the "proper" way to resolve and combine the parts that the others contributed.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:51 (five years ago)

I think Eddie Offord's editing skills were a big part of corralling the chaos into coherent musical pieces too, although I suspect that aspect of his contribution was sidelined to some extent by the time they did Topographic Oceans as the egos got out of hand.

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:08 (five years ago)

IN the meantime, the dregs of current Yes have put out an album as Arc of Life

Here's a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_84UCEDeEkc

This album sounds exactly how you'd expect an album featuring Billy Sherwood, Jimmy Haun, Jay Schellen (Alan White's replacement/double) and Jon Davidson to sound: like lukewarm oatmeal. It's better than Heaven and Earth though.

akm, Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:12 (five years ago)

Speaking of Davison if you really need a Yes fix you might want to check out his former band Glass Hammer

They’ve got a lot of good ones but If and Cor Coridum very much have a “what if Yes stayed the course after Going For the One” vibe to them

frogbs, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:00 (five years ago)

I love "Circus of Heaven". Definitely not near their worst.

I've said it before but those long weird meandering solos on "The Ancient" are really weird and beautiful, I've never heard anything else like that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:36 (five years ago)

I enjoy "Cans & Brahms" for what it is tbh, a quick Wendy Carlos-style arrangement sketch. I know people hate it.

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:12 (five years ago)

Seems far too short and breezy to be hateable.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:32 (five years ago)

I dislike it mostly because its prominent placement on the record can give people the idea that Yes is about "playing rock versions of classical music" like ELP, when that wasn't what they did at all.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 February 2021 22:43 (five years ago)

As for the question of "What is the weakest Yes original released between 1969 and 1980", I might pick "Clap" or "Onward".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 February 2021 22:53 (five years ago)

Oh, yeah, it's not the best introduction, especially coming right after the hit.

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:11 (five years ago)

Hating "Clap" is madness, though.

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:11 (five years ago)

that little bruford drumroll during the applause right before "starship trooper" launches rules

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:21 (five years ago)

Howe's guitar sounds unpleasantly trebly on "Clap", and it seems like an exercise. I prefer the warmer classical guitar on "Mood for a Day".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:24 (five years ago)

i love "a venture". it's jaunty and trippy. it would have been a highlight on either of the first two albums, where anderson's lyrics were more often linear and narrative

god the yes album is just perfect

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:27 (five years ago)

Okay, I just played "A Venture" and it seems I'd been mixing it up with "We Have Heaven", it's actually a nice little number. So that's a thumbs-up from me too. Steve Howe's Chet Atkins fantasies can still bog off though. I'm tempted to play "Circus of Heaven" now to see if it's less embarrassing than I remember.

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:22 (five years ago)

It's pretty weak.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:24 (five years ago)

i love that they got one of the dudes from gnidrolog to play record on the first movement of "i've seen all good people", and they go from that into howe totally vamping in the second movement, into "a venture" and the space lounge of "perpetual change." as great as this record is it still sounds so weird

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:39 (five years ago)

I think he played a steel-string on both pieces? xps

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:04 (five years ago)

Matt #2 - you don't like "We Have Heaven"?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 February 2021 02:42 (five years ago)

I have fond memories of singing "Circus Of Heaven" when I went for walks a decade ago.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 February 2021 02:45 (five years ago)

I thought We Have Heaven was an OK-ish dry run for Anderson's Olias of Sunhillow, which was also part of a "let's all do solo things" project thinking about it. Five Per Cent of Nothing just about beats Ramshackled if we're making comparisons. Squire was the winner both times though, Fish Out of Water is almost the great lost Yes album.

my shear modulus is weakening (Matt #2), Sunday, 21 February 2021 11:11 (five years ago)

Fish Out of Water loses me a bit on the last orchestral track, but it is interesting to hear Squire's lead voice and his take on the Yes sound.

5% for Nothing is a perfect 30 second song, but Ramshackled is way way down on my listening list.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 21 February 2021 16:34 (five years ago)

I wish Anderson had done more like "We Have Heaven", I think he might have used more loops on one of his later solo albums but not sure.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:10 (five years ago)

this should come packaged in a vacuum bong

https://www.musicglue.com/yes-union-30/products/yes-union-live-limited-edition-super-deluxe-flight-case-30-year-anniversary-edition

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 26 February 2021 22:17 (five years ago)

Union tour was the only time I saw Yes live, and it was deeply disappointing

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 27 February 2021 01:01 (five years ago)

Utterly baffling that they are releasing this and thinking it's something their fanbase wants. Their fanbase wants tours released, certainly; Progeny was proof of that. But they want good tours of the band in their prime, and Union is not that. I can't imagine listening to 30 discs of shows from that tour. This isn't King Crimson.

akm, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:21 (five years ago)

'union' had its own section in the used bin at my local record store circa '92

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:23 (five years ago)

I don't think any of the Union live albums have had much tracks from the studio album. I've wanted something like that because Wakeman felt the studio album was butchered but was proud of the live performances, but this is too much.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:58 (five years ago)

I saw them twice on the Union tour, lol.

perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:02 (five years ago)

Yikes yeah this is just overblown — even for Yes !

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:16 (five years ago)

You know what would’ve been cool for them to have played on this tour? “Machine Messiah”. Howe and Rabin would’ve sounded nice together on that. Because otherwise I hated when they were forced to play together. Oil (Rabin = motor oil) and water.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:21 (five years ago)

coming quickly to terms

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:56 (five years ago)

I just BLASTED "Parallels" at plate-tectonic volume, then followed it with "Hold Out Your Hand" from Squire's Fish Out Of Water. If you're gonna get Yessed out, this is definitely a recommended venture

Bill Bruford's drumbeat for "South Side of the Sky": proto-dubstep? (Prefecture), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 04:25 (five years ago)

for real there's such an inherent joy to the way Wakeman plays on "Parallels"

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 04:29 (five years ago)

I think it's the ending of "Parallels" on Yesshows where Wakeman sounds like he just went full Keith Moon on everything.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 07:11 (five years ago)

At the very least, the giant Union box should include the argument of Howe telling Peter Banks to fuck off backstage at the LA Forum.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 07:12 (five years ago)

one month passes...

Was just thinking how funny it would be if the current line up went out on tour and only played the ABWH album and Union.

akm, Thursday, 29 April 2021 05:05 (four years ago)

two weeks pass...

say what you will about Jon Anderson, but the man knew computers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz8ZcY7nXiE

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:22 (four years ago)

if I took an edible and watched that I would immediately become 10x more high

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:23 (four years ago)

lmao

brimstead, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:37 (four years ago)

you would never be as high as Jon Anderson

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:39 (four years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/YES52020_CreditGottliebBros.jpg?resize=1800,1200&w=1800

New album, accompanied by a press photo with, uh, a lot going on.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 20:59 (four years ago)

Crypt Keeper cleans up well.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:28 (four years ago)

I might actually go to a show if they do all of Relayer...

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:34 (four years ago)

Heart (Attack) of the Sunrise

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:36 (four years ago)

Steve Howe looking like direct sunlight would turn him to dust.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:45 (four years ago)

I'll admit to not recognizing anyone except Howe...is that Jon Anderson's son in the middle? Maybe Trevor someone on the right?

calstars, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 22:33 (four years ago)

Isn’t that Billy Sherwood?

Second guy is Jon Davison, who they poached from Glass Hammer. Though he only got hired there because he sounded like Jon Anderson so fair game I guess

Other two are Horn and White I think??

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 22:36 (four years ago)

l-r: Steve Howe, Jon Davison, Billy Sherwood, Alan White, Geoff Downes

SPaDs (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 23:09 (four years ago)

Downes seems to be morphing into Christopher Biggins, Howe into the Ghost of Steve Howe Future

SPaDs (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 23:11 (four years ago)

Looks like the only living members of the 1976 staff of TSR.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 23:57 (four years ago)

I really want these dudes to just finally go all out and do at least one mega-lineup, 18 person album credited to YESSSSS! with all the still alive former members.

vocalists - Jon Anderson, Jon Davison, Benoit David
gtrs - Steve Howe, Peter Banks, Trevor Rabin
keys - Tony Kaye, Rick Wakeman, Patrick Moraz, Geoff Downes, Oliver Wakeman, Igor Khoroshev
drums - Bill Bruford, Alan White, Tony O'Reilly, Dylan Howe
bass - Trevor Horn, Billy Sherwood

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 July 2021 14:33 (four years ago)

let's go back to what worked for us on Union

frogbs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 14:35 (four years ago)

Peter Banks is no longer with us unfortunately! Also Bruford retired some years ago. I think Khoroshev got kicked out for sexual harassment, don't quote me on that though. Wakeman would probably only do it if they called it 'Onion' (his oft-quoted joke about what the 'Union' album should have been called). Otherwise I'm all for it!

catarrh person (Matt #2), Thursday, 8 July 2021 14:37 (four years ago)

anyway some more info about this here

http://yesworld.com/2021/07/yes-announce-new-studio-album-the-quest

8 songs, all between 4-8 minutes, with a 3-track bonus CD for some reason. no samples but I assume this is gonna sound a lot like Heaven and Earth

frogbs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 14:37 (four years ago)

I wonder what the odds are, in a group of five men of that age, that two of them would have had children die.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 July 2021 16:47 (four years ago)

Swear to god, when I first saw this yesterday, my immediate reaction was "...Soul Asylum?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:14 (four years ago)

Two boys on a playground
Tryin' to push each other down
See the crowd gather 'round
Call it morning driving thru the sound

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:21 (four years ago)

This has got to be one of the final "all new" records by one of the original big prog bands (although Tull are preparing a new record, The Zealot Gene).

Have any name prog acts put out a Blackstar/You Want It Darker "reckoning with mortality" record? Peter Hammill, probably.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:24 (four years ago)

Isn't that most of his career?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:25 (four years ago)

Yeah Hammill's 2006 album Singularity was the first one he made after suffering a heart attack, several tracks on it deal with that.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:26 (four years ago)

Peter Banks is no longer with us unfortunately! Also Bruford retired some years ago. I think Khoroshev got kicked out for sexual harassment, don't quote me on that though. Wakeman would probably only do it if they called it 'Onion' (his oft-quoted joke about what the 'Union' album should have been called). Otherwise I'm all for it!

Totally blanked on Banks having passed away. And yeah I know Bruford retired, but might as well dream big!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:37 (four years ago)

You have $17 dollars, build your version of Yes

$5 - Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, Rick Wakeman
$4 - Trevor Rabin, Tony Kaye, Patrick Moraz, Geoff Downes, Trevor Horn, Tony Levin, Alan White
$3 - Jon Davison, Benoit David, Dylan Howe, Oliver Wakeman
$2 - Billy Sherwood, Tony O'Reilly, Igor Khoroshev

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:59 (four years ago)

is it buy 4 get Squire free

frogbs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:00 (four years ago)

members must be living and active

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:04 (four years ago)

strawbs keeps popping 'em out.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:08 (four years ago)

ok fine I'll bite

Howe (can't be Yes without him), Moraz (can he still play?), Davison (dude is more Jon than Jon), Sherwood (he's not bad!), and O'Reilly (whoever he is I'm sure he can play better than White at this point), guess I pocket a dollar

Khoroshev is the bargain in this group, alas the man is too horny for Yes

frogbs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:08 (four years ago)

Anderson, Howe, White, Oliver Wakeman and no bass I guess?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:08 (four years ago)

by that I mean he's a horny guy, not that he wants to bone the members of Yes

frogbs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:09 (four years ago)

Tonys Kaye and Levin are overpriced.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:13 (four years ago)

my super duper group

Jon Anderson, Trevor Rabin, Tony O'Reilly, Billy Sherwood, Patrick Moraz

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:15 (four years ago)

as good as Levin is I don't think his style really jives with Yes. then again I suppose he can do just about anything.

frogbs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:15 (four years ago)

I liked him on Union!

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:16 (four years ago)

In addition to being a fantastic bass player, I have a soft spot for him because he is also from Brookline, Massachusetts.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:18 (four years ago)

Nothing to do with Yes, but I was annoyed listening to one of the recent Crimson live albums by how he slid around between notes instead of just hitting them dead-on like Wetton.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:19 (four years ago)

proper intonation is for chumps!

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:21 (four years ago)

I mean when he was playing the 70s stuff, of course he's fine with the parts that he devised.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:24 (four years ago)

aint no frets on the bing bong stick or whatever the fuck its called

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:45 (four years ago)

I'm pretty sure there are frets on the Chapman Stick

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 July 2021 19:01 (four years ago)

oh fine excuse me mr music genius

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 8 July 2021 19:33 (four years ago)

Gentlefolks, you can't fret about the Chapman Stick here! This is a prog thread!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 July 2021 19:37 (four years ago)

don't shoot the stick messenger!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 July 2021 19:39 (four years ago)

For years, I swore Tony Levin was a stage name meant as a brag about his bass sound ("Tone Eleven"). Then i learned that he primarily played something resembling an electric cribbage board, and "Tony Levin" is his real name.

But the serious question: when will Yes give us their "Honkin' on Bobo"?

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Monday, 12 July 2021 14:38 (four years ago)

I think they may be warming up to their Honkin' on Bobo. The most recent live album (I think, they may have squeezed another one out since I heard it) inexplicably included a cover of "Imagine" and a Richie Havens song.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 July 2021 15:00 (four years ago)

They covered Richie Havens on their second album.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Monday, 12 July 2021 15:14 (four years ago)

So they've been honkin' on bobo for a long, long time, it seems.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Monday, 12 July 2021 15:15 (four years ago)

down at the honk
round by the bobo

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 July 2021 15:15 (four years ago)

loooooose one
onn too the honk of the bobo

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 July 2021 15:16 (four years ago)

Honks From Bobographic Oceans

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 12 July 2021 15:16 (four years ago)

They covered Richie Havens on their second album.

Yeah, I knew that, I guess by "inexplicable" I just meant that they haven't put non-Yes stuff on very many of these recent live tours where they've been performing full albums.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 July 2021 15:17 (four years ago)

Shining, flying, purple bobo, tell me where you honk

frogbs, Monday, 12 July 2021 15:17 (four years ago)

Bobo Honker, go sailing on by

calstars, Monday, 12 July 2021 16:05 (four years ago)

Honker Of A Lonely Bobo

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 July 2021 16:08 (four years ago)

LISTEN TO THIS TREVOR

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Monday, 12 July 2021 16:20 (four years ago)

I've Honked All Good Bobos

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 12 July 2021 16:40 (four years ago)

LISTEN TO THIS TREVOR
lol!

calstars, Monday, 12 July 2021 16:58 (four years ago)

Honks From Bobographic Oceans

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, July 12, 2021 10:16 AM (eleven hours ago)

There were several great ones up above, but this is some God-level "Revealing corridors of time provoking memories Disjointed but with purpose" level topography

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 03:40 (four years ago)

I was listening to Guided by Voices and it occurred to me they might be the only band that was just influenced by Yes's (particularly Anderson's) melodic sensibilities while taking absolutely nothing from their musicianship etc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 03:50 (four years ago)

So I don't keep up with current Yes at all but Youtube recommended this new video to me and, while it's not the classic band, if it were a new Mew song, it would be completely acceptable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbGEa7ju8bg

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 July 2021 00:44 (four years ago)

That's the first post-2000 Yes song I've heard. It wasn't embarrassing, but somehow it feels like they're hampered trying to "be progressive". I was wishing for the arrangement to be a little more straight rock (but, admittedly, what does that even mean in 2021).

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 July 2021 02:12 (four years ago)

lol why do they fake out "Touch and Go" at the beginning

its better than anything on Heaven & Earth, that's for sure

frogbs, Saturday, 24 July 2021 02:26 (four years ago)

Mew? lol

calstars, Saturday, 24 July 2021 02:45 (four years ago)

It's not really as infectious melodically as Mew or classic Yes; just had a contemporary progressive pop quality for me and a strong sense of groove + the vocals and meandering melodic lines made me think a bit of Mew.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 July 2021 02:57 (four years ago)

Miss Mew

calstars, Saturday, 24 July 2021 02:59 (four years ago)

well yeah also I miss Mew and would accept this if it was new material

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 July 2021 03:03 (four years ago)

Was probably overrating it out of hopefulness.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 July 2021 03:22 (four years ago)

late night and I got the Yes Album on blast, I don't care how much embarrassing bullshit they put out they're still one of the sickest bands ever

frogbs, Monday, 26 July 2021 03:28 (four years ago)

inside out
outside in

mookieproof, Monday, 26 July 2021 03:33 (four years ago)

I'll probably only hear the post-Magnification albums after I've heard like 30 solo albums.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 26 July 2021 17:36 (four years ago)

I've been listening to Steve Howe's Beginnings. He sings too much, sometimes straining both his physical and emotional range, but unlike a lot of people I wouldn't say the vocals ruin the record.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 26 July 2021 17:52 (four years ago)

Seems to me that great prog bands have a lot of great solo artists too. I know Steve Hackett's debut album is a classic but it's so brilliant that I'm surprised it doesn't come up in conversation here more.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 26 July 2021 18:10 (four years ago)

Hackett's solo career is indeed quite good. all his first 4 are good, it gets a bit corny after that. but his recent albums are apparently on par with his early ones.

I too like Beginnings but am surprised Howe tries to even sing at all. I'm curious what his other solo albums sound like. I too am in that "Yes solo album" phase; so far Olias of Sunhollow, The Six Wives of Henry VII, and The Story of i are my favorites

Seems to me that great prog bands have a lot of great solo artists too.

not Gentle Giant! I don't know if they have a single solo album!

frogbs, Monday, 26 July 2021 18:31 (four years ago)

The Bruford albums, although far from being solo records, are terrific. One Of A Kind especially.

doug watson, Monday, 26 July 2021 22:26 (four years ago)

fair amount of controversy kicked up by this as it turns out something about this is identical to something written by Francis Monkman in 78. Downes insisted it was his own and then clarified that it seems he made a mistake, and the writing credits are being revised.

akm, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 19:20 (four years ago)

yeah actually seems like an innocent mistake, still lol @ these guys having to mine four-decade old demo tapes for inspiration

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 19:36 (four years ago)

lol at them not remembering who wrote it too

that said, that's how Fly From Here happened and that is still a great album

akm, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 20:26 (four years ago)

Feel like there could be a thread about late career albums which just wound up being discarded ideas from the band’s prime. I’m pretty sure that’s what the last Van Halen album was.

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 23:22 (four years ago)

Tattoo You

calstars, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 23:46 (four years ago)

Change Becomes Us by Wire.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 01:55 (four years ago)

both great! it's kind of amazing to me that Tattoo You songs were cast offs.

akm, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 04:31 (four years ago)

fuck it, I'm gonna listen to every single Yes album over the next 2 months

frogbs, Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:51 (four years ago)

The last Seger album was like half trunk songs.

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:55 (four years ago)

forgot how much I like their debut. "Yesterday and Today" is such an incredibly sweet song

frogbs, Thursday, 29 July 2021 21:50 (four years ago)

also lol at how much bass there is on this. i actually kinda dig how wildly uneven the mixes are on some of these late 60s albums

frogbs, Thursday, 29 July 2021 21:53 (four years ago)

Early Yes when they think they are covering show tunes is awesome.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Thursday, 29 July 2021 22:29 (four years ago)

lizard by king crimson is basically a yes album right?

clouds, Friday, 30 July 2021 00:03 (four years ago)

Jon Anderson sings one song on Lizard, but I can't imagine Yes would have wanted so much sax, oboe and trombone everywhere. And Fripp and Howe are completely different types of guitarist.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 30 July 2021 01:55 (four years ago)

yeah I can't see Yes doing anything as brooding as "Cirkus" nor as chaotic as "Happy Family" (though parts of Relayer come close). also they never used horns & didn't really go into jazz territory outside of that first album. that said the Fripp/Anderson bit on Side B is so good it makes me wish they did a full LP together

the only thing I can think of that sounds like Lizard is Pete Sinfield's solo album...it's not too good but has some pretty fantastic sections. it's funny when Greg Lake shows up and just soars over Sinfield's voice, god if only he could've sung the whole thing

frogbs, Friday, 30 July 2021 02:02 (four years ago)

fuck it, I'm gonna listen to every single Yes album over the next 2 months

save some space for your defense of ween and soul coughing!

mookieproof, Friday, 30 July 2021 03:24 (four years ago)

they only made good albums though, when you do it with Yes it's a fuckin' chore and you really get thrown off the deep end of shit after 90125

frogbs, Friday, 30 July 2021 03:27 (four years ago)

How Much Money Would It Take For You To Listen To All These Asia Albums?

brimstead, Friday, 30 July 2021 03:53 (four years ago)

Does 'every single Yes album' include ABWH? Moot point I guess.

we thought that scene needed a little more conflict (Matt #2), Friday, 30 July 2021 09:26 (four years ago)

didn't really go into jazz territory outside of that first album

Really? I feel like there's a lot of jazz fusion influence throughout their prog records, esp e.g. the first solo on "Close to the Edge", which practically gets into Mahavishnu Orchestra territory, or on Relayer. Don't disagree with you about Lizards, though.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 30 July 2021 12:02 (four years ago)

Does 'every single Yes album' include ABWH? Moot point I guess.

I mean it's more a "Yes album" than Big Generator so yeah

Really? I feel like there's a lot of jazz fusion influence throughout their prog records, esp e.g. the first solo on "Close to the Edge", which practically gets into Mahavishnu Orchestra territory, or on Relayer.

yeah true but I guess I'm talking more tippy-tappy horn-heavy jazz. Mahavishnu sounds like a lot of prog to me

frogbs, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:13 (four years ago)

Yeah, "All Good People" swings but they didn't quite get into the territory of "Indoor Games".

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 30 July 2021 13:48 (four years ago)

also lol at how much bass there is on this. i actually kinda dig how wildly uneven the mixes are on some of these late 60s albums

― frogbs, Thursday, July 29, 2021 10:53 PM

Not the remaster?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:43 (four years ago)

On those first two records, it's odd that Bruford manages to get a songwriting credit (for suggesting the name "Harold Land"), but Banks and Kaye get none. I'm pretty sure Banks complained about that at some later date.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 30 July 2021 19:15 (four years ago)

i'll have to give that sinfield album a listen

i was rather drunk when i posted that comment lol but the crossover is interesting

who were yes's closest influences? listening to "the yes album" it goes from john fahey to the hollies to like... the free design

i honestly love this band

clouds, Monday, 2 August 2021 20:50 (four years ago)

Howe's fave was Chet Atkins, right? Obv Beatles and Zappa; you can hear CSNY in "Your Move".

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 2 August 2021 22:26 (four years ago)

Seems like he knew his classical and jazz better than Hackett too, which makes sense: https://web.archive.org/web/20040309154903/http://www.gibson.com/Whatsnew/pressrelease/2000/nov15a.html

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 2 August 2021 22:29 (four years ago)

a few years after starting guitar when I was twelve in 1959, I heard Chet Atkins and that was it. I heard who I consider the most well-rounded and most individual guitar player. Great style, great technique, but the inspiration he passed on to me was that if you want to do something, try it. If you want to step over here, try it. He gave me the idea that one guitarist could play any kind of guitar style. I never had that idea until I heard Chet. Also, jazz guitarists and classical guitarists.

mm: Any particular ones?

SH: It started with John Williams and Julian Bream, but then I realized Segovia. All three of them are brilliant. And Paco Pena and Pepe Romero play beautifully now. With jazz, as with rock, my roots were formulated by those guitarists of the post Charlie Christian era...

... mm: The ES-175 was obviously a fateful encounter, what attracted you to it?

SH: I didn't see any other guitar. That was the guitar I wanted. I loved all of the Gibsons, but when I saw the ES-175 I loved the inlays, the f-holes, and the beautiful, sharp cutaway with great access. I think mainly it was that I saw Wes (Montgomery), Joe Pass, even Kenny Burell with one. So, it was my destiny because it was a jazz guitar. What I didn't realize was that my life in music was not going to be about jazz. That was the transition period when I could have gone with the Les Paul and joined a flock of people, but the utter beauty of the 175 is what brought me around. No one was playing archtop, hollowbody guitars in a rock band. People laughed at me and thought I was really snooty. To me, it was an object of art, it wasn't just a guitar.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 2 August 2021 22:33 (four years ago)

The comparison to Hackett was based on this quote wrt the writing of "Horizons", m/l variations on one of Bach's most famous pieces, the Prelude from the first Cello Suite in G (usu played in D on gtr-Hackett did it in G, so his comment about transposing it is a bit lol). Obv he knows his Bach now.

: I had been influenced by a piece that Julian Bream played, in fact, and I didn’t know who wrote it, and I found out years later that it was a piece by Bach and I transposed it to another key and... Bach tends to figure highly on my list of all-time favourite composers.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 2 August 2021 22:57 (four years ago)

http://www.twronline.net/issues/twr36/twr36_sh01.htm

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 2 August 2021 22:57 (four years ago)

^source

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 2 August 2021 22:57 (four years ago)

For me, Jon Anderson + a bunch of high schoolers is more interesting than the remaining members of Yes + an Jon Anderson impersonator... https://www.phillymag.com/news/2021/08/04/jon-anderson-tour-paul-green-rock-academy/

BrianB, Thursday, 5 August 2021 12:45 (four years ago)

now on Time and a Word. the thing I always thing of with this album is how the first track, "No Opportunity Necessary, No Experience Required" sounds like the Sonic 2 bonus level music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MFZhzyY1ZE

I dunno if anyone else has made that connection, but it wouldn't be the first time a VGM composer ripped off classic prog...

frogbs, Thursday, 5 August 2021 21:16 (four years ago)

I heard the first two Yes records years after I heard the later ones, and when I finally got to Time and a Word, two things about it struck me: that the orchestral arrangements that everyone seems to dislike are actually used pretty infrequently, and that Tony Kaye filled up the sound a lot more than I expected from his playing on The Yes Album (where I guess he is crowded out by Howe, who is of course a much more aggressive player than Peter Banks, and also used more overdubbing).

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 6 August 2021 02:48 (four years ago)

yeah the orchestra is actually kinda neat, think the bigger problem is the songs aren't very good

frogbs, Friday, 6 August 2021 04:11 (four years ago)

I remember one song has an absolute killer first half and great drums but drops off a bit.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 August 2021 18:30 (four years ago)

so uh Howe's playing on "South Side of the Sky" is some real world-destroying shit

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 03:39 (four years ago)

Yeah I don't usually think of that as a guitar-dominated track but I love his riffing and little fills throughout the verses. Dark and heavy while keeping an almost funky groove.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 04:37 (four years ago)

I’ve seen that this thread exists forever and just now realized (before clicking it to confirm) that it’s a Yes thread

I figured it was some weird joke or a thing where after hours posters were giving one word “yes” responses

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 11:25 (four years ago)

It's the thread where it's safe to post tracks from the Alan White solo album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c9x78hY_iE

keeping myself to myself (Matt #2), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 11:38 (four years ago)

Yes solo albums S/D

Join me in my excitement

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:35 (four years ago)

will never be more yessed out than these yessongs (alas)

heart of the sunrise (greensboro)
perpetual change (msg)
and you and i (greensboro)
starship trooper (london)

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 August 2021 05:03 (four years ago)

aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

thank you, good night

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 August 2021 05:31 (four years ago)

one childhood memory I have is hearing "Siberian Khatru" playing on the radio and really loving it but not knowing who it was. based on the information I had I thought maybe it was Led Zeppelin? I also had the same reaction to "Tempus Fugit", I even remember describing it to the guy at the record store like "it's something something something...yes! Deedodododo wahwahahaahah". must've done a poor job because the guy was a real Yeshead!!!

frogbs, Thursday, 26 August 2021 02:19 (four years ago)

i had 'classic yes' and while it was cool, i felt, as a teenager, that it did not rock enough

during my college visits in like 1988, however, i was staying at the house of a cornell professor who had gone to my high school 30 years previously. couldn't sleep -- of course -- but i had a radio-only walkman. and whatever classic rock station within walkman range of ithaca, ny that night rolled out some fuckin ~yessongs~

suddenly these songs had edges and cliffs that i wanted more of. this, suddenly, rocked?

'and you and i' was the first one that really hit me -- it had more eclipses and more apocolypses

mookieproof, Thursday, 26 August 2021 03:05 (four years ago)

My first* album was Yessongs, and 15 year old me couldn't have been happier playing it on my brand new Admiral 8-track/radio/turntable stereo.

* Technically, I had asked for a Dino, Desi, & Billy LP on a years-earlier birthday, and bought a used Outsiders ("Time Won't Let Me," not the UK one) LP that one of my brother's friends was selling at age 11. But this was the first new one I bought with my own money.

nickn, Thursday, 26 August 2021 03:58 (four years ago)

Yes, 1974: "Hey, we heard that you found our previous record pretentious, esoteric and self-indulgent. To make it up to you, here's Relayer".

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 30 August 2021 01:09 (four years ago)

got excited about a Starcastle LP in the local shop and the guy was like "cool, what do they sound like?" and all I could think to say was "well have you ever listened to Yes and wished they were less good?"

frogbs, Monday, 30 August 2021 01:17 (four years ago)

xp i mean, relayer was almost an exact return to the structure of their most acclaimed album (except with the second and third track switched)

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 August 2021 12:56 (four years ago)

theres more in Gates of Delirium than all 80 minutes of Tales combined

frogbs, Monday, 30 August 2021 13:35 (four years ago)

pretentious, esoteric and self-indulgent

Do you mean that these were the complaints of Close to the Edge fans or of rock critics?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 30 August 2021 13:52 (four years ago)

Critics were obviously more hostile than Yes fans, though I'm sure some listeners were put off as well. I prefer Relayer to Close to the Edge, but each of the later songs is denser and more difficult than its analog on the earlier record. Of course, certain Yes fans would have welcomed a triple studio album in 1974!
It just amused me while listening to Relayer yesterday that THIS monster was their "retrenchment", "fan-service" record.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 30 August 2021 14:11 (four years ago)

One presumable fan put off by the Tales record and tour was Mark Perry, later of Alternative TV: "Then another pivotal thing was Yes at Redding for the 'Tales of Topographic Oceans' (tour). It was a nightmare, sitting in the pouring rain. You're thinking 'what the fuck is this about?'" He probably was not alone.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 30 August 2021 14:16 (four years ago)

I almost never listen to Tales but more just because it's comparatively lacking in energy and less memorable melodically, both of which are addressed on Relayer, not because of pretension, esotericism, or self-indulgence.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 30 August 2021 14:22 (four years ago)

Maybe I should revisit it. I remember it as sort of an ambient fusion record?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 30 August 2021 14:27 (four years ago)

it kind of just drifts along. I'm not completely convinced it's bad, although it is clearly unfocused, but I rarely have much interest in spending a lot of time with it

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 30 August 2021 14:29 (four years ago)

right, there are some parts on Tales I absolutely love and I feel like a 40 minute edited version of the album would rule (didn't some ilxor actually make that?), even if it still would be nowhere near the surrounding albums. I always go into it thinking I'll discover something but I never do

frogbs, Monday, 30 August 2021 14:31 (four years ago)

actually what it reminds me most of is Mike Oldfield, just the way everything tweedles along forever until getting to "the good part". though there's much more structure in what Oldfield does. learning that Tales was basically a Anderson/Howe solo project that was mostly written in one marathon session made it make a lot more sense.

frogbs, Monday, 30 August 2021 14:34 (four years ago)

I've got the complete Yes songbook, which probably helped me understand the structure of Tales. Also I'm a huge fan of the first four Oldfield records, so obviously someone with the patience to wait for "the good parts".

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 30 August 2021 14:38 (four years ago)

I like Oldfield quite a bit. I usually find his compositions really tightly structured. I can appreciate looseness and jamming too, though!

I sometimes try to imagine the actual humans who hear music and need to turn it off because the sound is affecting too much pretension of unearned significance or because they can just hear the artists indulging their own base inclinations.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 30 August 2021 16:58 (four years ago)

I don't mean that as a dig on Oldfield, I like a bunch of his stuff too. the big climactic parts don't hit as hard without everything leading up to them. but I'm not sure if that approach really works for Yes.

frogbs, Monday, 30 August 2021 17:06 (four years ago)

sund4r, you mean the listeners/critics actually envy the artists for "getting away" with the self-indulgence?

frogbs, I would say the payoff at the end of "The Remembering" is worth the build-up, though Yes definitely take an indirect approach over those 20 minutes.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 30 August 2021 17:12 (four years ago)

yeah that bit on "The Remembering" is honestly some of my favorite Yes music ever but every time I hear it all I can think is how amazing it would be if they'd just built a solid 8-minute tune around it

frogbs, Monday, 30 August 2021 17:19 (four years ago)

I definitely appreciated the edit of Tales (was it Matt?), it helped me appreciate the album more. I think it has some of their finest moments, a real shame it wasn't better executed

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 30 August 2021 17:26 (four years ago)

I mean that "pretentiousness" and "self-indulgence" are moral judgments of intentions and processes listeners are often not even privy to as opposed to audible phenomena and when they appear in musical critique, they seem like projections that say little about the work itself. It's not how any non-critic I know hears music and I'm unconvinced it was actually what 70s critics were even hearing and responding to. I can understand disliking something bc you hate the singer's voice or it's too loud or too simple or you get bored by long solos or the composition seems unstructured or the lyrics are overly sentimental or the I-IV-V progression is trite ... - those are all things you can hear.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 30 August 2021 17:30 (four years ago)

I assumed that Close To The Edge and the earlier albums were all well received critically?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 30 August 2021 17:33 (four years ago)

Yeah, they got decent reviews at the time in RS/MM. Christgau was condescending 'but' gave them B- to C-range 'grades' (including Tales). I feel like the reviews in the 1983 RS guide were worse than in the 1979 guide but can't find it? Maybe my beef is more with 80s and 90s critics idk; more of a general bugbear about those critical crutches, which were v common at one time.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 30 August 2021 17:52 (four years ago)

when I hear "pretentious" I usually think of ELP, which I think may have earned it due to their frequent "adapting" of classical pieces and the perhaps implicit statement that they were "improving" on those pieces, or they were worthy of covering those composers? tbf I thought that was total bullshit too, ELP were rock as fuck. but I do think that Tales is pretentious in the sense of "we're so good that even our aimless noodling is interesting and worthy of putting on a record", which I guess some of the band didn't agree with

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 01:52 (four years ago)

ELP went fucking hard, like fucking "Knife-Edge"?

I really didn't like Relayer on a recent listening, something about the production struck me as tinny? Too many effects or something dulling the overall sound gestalt.

Going for the One, however... holy shit what a record

clouds, Friday, 3 September 2021 04:35 (four years ago)

Based on the Youtube stream, it seems like the Steven Wilson mix of Relayer would be clearer and more pleasant than the older CD version I have.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:03 (four years ago)

I feel like the reviews in the 1983 RS guide were worse than in the 1979 guide but can't find it?

Yep, CTTE and The Yes Album got five stars in the 1979 (red) edition, and no Yes album was awarded less than three stars. The entry was written by one Charley Walters who praises their “varied virtuosity,” calls CTTE “technically brilliant, many-hued and free…most importantly, it rocks,” and says of GFTO, “No new ground is broken…Nonetheless, it’s a more than adequate display.”

In the 1983 (blue) edition, no Yes record got more than three stars, and Tales, GFTO, Tormato, Drama, and Yesshows all got one star. Wayne King (whom I know little about, other than that he was a Who fanatic) wrote the entry, starting off with “Classical rockers with hearts of cold…” moving on to GFTO being “less an effective reduction of valid ideas than an admission of total artistic bankruptcy,” and ending with, “Who cared if the final product was now a bland assembly-line concoction? Apparently no one.”

So it’s a reversal from the red to blue edition similar to the Doors entries. I dunno how those decisions were made, or by whom (Dave Marsh? John Swenson? Both? Neither?). The only instance I can find of a negative-to-positive reappraisal is the Pere Ubu entries (one star in ‘79, four and five stars in ‘83).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:12 (four years ago)

Ah, yeah, thanks. Also found this, which is one I remember reading at the time.

Rating: 2.5 Stars
"Pointlessly intricate guitar and bass solos, caterwauling keyboards, quasi-mystical lyrics proclaimed in alien falsetto, acid-dipped album-cover illustrations: this British group wrote the book on art-rock excess...Close to the Edge has its moments, but most of this hotly anticipated follow-up is a monumental snore, a dubious hot-air suite whipped up around a handful of promising song fragments." (Mark Coleman, 1992 RS Album Guide)

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:45 (four years ago)

Are there bass solos on that album? On "Siberian Khatru" maybe...?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:46 (four years ago)

Pointlessly intricate guitar and bass solos, caterwauling keyboards, quasi-mystical lyrics proclaimed in alien falsetto, acid-dipped album-cover illustrations

This makes it sound even better than it actually is!

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:49 (four years ago)

The Wilson remix of relayer is better than the unpleasant rhino remaster but the original late 80s cd is even better (just turn up the volume)

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 3 September 2021 16:41 (four years ago)

had a dream the new album came out and I was reading a review that said "Yes have done it again". I'm still chuckling trying to figure out what that meant

frogbs, Saturday, 4 September 2021 04:19 (four years ago)

It means "they got everybody yessed out again".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 4 September 2021 14:52 (four years ago)

man the battle section in "Gates of Delirium" is still the craziest fucking thing this band has ever done

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:03 (four years ago)

like even Magma doesn't go that hard

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:06 (four years ago)

i don't at all want you to stop, but i feel like you're https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=110651#unread -ing yourself

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:25 (four years ago)

dude. i can get yessed out totally sober! this is like yessssssed out

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:27 (four years ago)

<3

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:31 (four years ago)

From the time that Steve Howe joined Yes to when Bill Bruford left the band is pretty much a couple of years. Basically a year after Howe joined the band (May 70), Tony Kaye left and Rick Wakeman joined the band (July 71) then after finishing recording 'Close to the Edge' Bruford left (July 72) to join King Crimson.

The Yes Album
Fragile
Close to the Edge

Pretty impressive amount of work done.

earlnash, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 04:25 (four years ago)

I would like to formally apologize. upon some reflection I have come to the conclusion that Magma do indeed go that hard. I think what got me is listening to this with the sub on, there are these explosions during that section that rattled the pictures on the walls. I've never actually noticed them before

frogbs, Thursday, 9 September 2021 00:47 (four years ago)

One of my favourite bits in the battle sequence is the emotive sequence that occurs at 9.20, and then again at 10.00; it somehow manages to be tender, grandiose and breakneck simultaneously.

Regarding their productivity, they made another three albums of original music between mid-72 and late 74, as well.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 September 2021 01:13 (four years ago)

one month passes...

so I am finally giving Open Your Eyes another listen - it kind of surprises me that this album is universally shit on while Talk is mostly given a pass since they're both quite similar but something about the way the guitars and vocals are produced just irks my brain

it is funny to read some of the reviews complaining about the final track, this kind of "pad out the length of the CD" thing was pretty common in the late 90's, clearly you're not supposed to listen to it every time you play the album. though I suspect most people only listened to it once. I actually dig the surreal vibe, calm nature sounds suddenly punctuated by loud processed vocals, it's like the kind of shit we'd do to pass the time on the N64 when the games had a sound demo mode

by my count this is the 4th Yes album that began life as a different project...does any other band come close?

frogbs, Monday, 8 November 2021 20:56 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

catching the swirling wind the sailor sees the rim of the land
the eagle's dancing wings create as weather spins out of hand
go closer hold the land feel partly no more than grains of sand

yes. . . . YES

mookieproof, Saturday, 4 December 2021 04:43 (four years ago)

two weeks pass...

has anyone here given The Quest a shot? I thought "The Ice Bridge" was a neat lead single, but the rest is uh...pretty boring. not as lethargic as Heaven & Earth but not as hooky either.

frogbs, Saturday, 18 December 2021 21:13 (four years ago)

three months pass...

würm imo

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 April 2022 02:23 (three years ago)

one month passes...

Alan White has passed :(

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/alan-white-yes-and-john-lennon-drummer-dead-at-72/

Maresn3st, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:40 (three years ago)

Sad to hear this, he seemed to get a lot of criticism for basically not being Bill Bruford but his drumming on Topographic Oceans is one of the best things about that mess. He plays like a demon on Relayer too. RIP!

ARP Odysséas (Matt #2), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:43 (three years ago)

yeah his work on “sound chaser” is outstanding

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:48 (three years ago)

The Yessongs versions of the Fragile/Close to the Edge songs have giant clanging balls compared to the studio versions, and it's because of White. And he had three days to learn the set list before the tour started!

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:48 (three years ago)

alan white does a pretty good job for a guy who had to learn all these crazy difficult songs with limited-to-zero rehearsals

― covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Friday, October 16, 2020 10:31 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

what a guy, rip

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:48 (three years ago)

sound chaser and especially awaken are two of the great prog songs and he played on both

imago, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:56 (three years ago)

played the hell out of them too

imago, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:56 (three years ago)

yeah I mean I love Bruford too but I thought White's less subtle/more powerful approach worked great

frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:59 (three years ago)

The Yessongs versions of the Fragile/Close to the Edge songs have giant clanging balls compared to the studio versions, and it's because of White.

― but also fuck you (unperson)

wait is this good? i mean, i know having a flaming gong is good, but i'm not sure if giant clanging balls are good or not.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:06 (three years ago)

Perhaps unperson was thinking of those crashing Chinese cymbals at the beginning of "The Ancient"?

When Bruford departed the group, Yes management gave his royalties from Close to the Edge to White, since Bruford would not be promoting the record. In recent years, White returned Bruford's royalties, which was a generous gesture (since, as people mention above, White had a lot of work to do on the tour).

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:25 (three years ago)

back when you could actually earn decent money playing progressive rock!

always heard nice things about this guy. even in their later incarnations he seemed to be the one dude who just wanted to play the music.

not even waiting until late night, getting Yessed out right now. Going For The One

frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:59 (three years ago)

Ramshackled is way way down on my listening list.

If not now, when would I ever listen to this? Can it be worse than Story of I?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 May 2022 21:41 (three years ago)

you can blame it on the butthole surfers to parter And all the sailors who were junkies, all
They all went sailing out to sea
And the white man sold quaaludes to the monkeys
And they all died high up in the trees

And all the teachers who were flunkies, now
They all taught you and me
And the goddamned white men still selling quaaludes to the monkeys
And they're all, you and me, dying high up in the trees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y__6zG-equE

xzanfar, Thursday, 26 May 2022 22:56 (three years ago)

back when you could actually earn decent money playing progressive rock!

― frogbs

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 27 May 2022 01:27 (three years ago)

Yessongs and Relayer are amazing. RIP.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 May 2022 03:48 (three years ago)

okay, Relayer it is. see y'all in space

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2022 03:57 (three years ago)

Gates of Delirium just rips my head off every time I hear it. its like the Sistine Chapel of spacey, slightly homoerotic prog music. Alan White...you can hear the joy in the drums. I love this music so much.

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2022 04:19 (three years ago)

his playing on Sound Chaser is really great too. so he doesn't do those polyrhythms or subtle jazz tapping that Bruford does. he still just rides on the cymbals and grounds the track from flying off into outer space

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2022 04:36 (three years ago)

yeah he does an admirable job of tying that chaos together

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 May 2022 13:52 (three years ago)

I'm not a drum fill expert, but I think of Bruford as subdividing the individual measures into weird offbeats, and White going over the bar lines and doing longer and more flowing fills.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 27 May 2022 15:02 (three years ago)

His brother Jack is now full of regret he didn't ask Alan to replace sister Meg.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 27 May 2022 16:27 (three years ago)

three weeks pass...

l e a v e. I t

calstars, Sunday, 19 June 2022 02:09 (three years ago)

^

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 02:04 (three years ago)

you took a break from smoking and suddenly the only Yes record you like is 90125

frogbs, Friday, 24 June 2022 03:59 (three years ago)

Uh no

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 04:43 (three years ago)

I wish leave it was constructed a little better. Damn a capella

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:34 (three years ago)

That’s the best part

frogbs, Saturday, 25 June 2022 00:18 (three years ago)

When I bought Ultimate Yes (a 3xCD comp) I got a little guilty that “Leave It” was my favorite track

frogbs, Saturday, 25 June 2022 01:27 (three years ago)

That’s the best part

What

calstars, Saturday, 25 June 2022 02:00 (three years ago)

Acapella bit on “Hold On” is my fave on that album

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 25 June 2022 06:20 (three years ago)

"Fly From Here : Return Trip" sounding so good on a Summer evening.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

two months pass...

the greatest prog album of all time turned 50 today. who's getting yessed out with me

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 02:18 (three years ago)

beauty begins at the foot review

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 02:47 (three years ago)

GOAT

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 03:50 (three years ago)

I LISTENED HARD BUT COULD NOT SEE

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 03:54 (three years ago)

fragile better

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 04:02 (three years ago)

ok not really

and you and i is the apex for me

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 04:06 (three years ago)

Young me liked Fragile because it has the "hits", but I think I might prefer CTTE now.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 11:04 (three years ago)

Siberian Khatru is my MVP jam here

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 15:22 (three years ago)

hell yeah

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 15:31 (three years ago)

what I love so much about the title track is that it really does feel like one very long song, as opposed to other prog epics like Tarkus, Suppers Ready, Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, etc. which come across more as a bunch of sections stitched together. it goes through all the movements of a traditional 4-minute pop song, it's just....longer. and way more complex & intricate. you can't really separate any of it out.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 15:46 (three years ago)

That's why I feel just slightly off about hearing them out of sequence live, but that's a bit nitpicky

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 September 2022 21:01 (three years ago)

Siberian Kathharrtutruuu

calstars, Saturday, 17 September 2022 21:35 (three years ago)

what I love so much about the title track is that it really does feel like one very long song, as opposed to other prog epics like Tarkus, Suppers Ready, Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, etc. which come across more as a bunch of sections stitched together. it goes through all the movements of a traditional 4-minute pop song, it's just....longer. and way more complex & intricate. you can't really separate any of it out.

― frogbs

in terms of compositional chops CTTE really is next-level, it's like it's got fuckin' thematic development or something. that's one of my favorite prog-rock stories, somebody played _the polite force_ for aaron copland and he was like "this is just a bunch of wibbly bits repeated four times and then there's a solo or something, none of the themes are developed at all", so mont campbell spent the next 18 months figuring out how to develop a theme and then he wrote "enneagram". anyway CTTE to my ears does kinda the same thing, way more argument for "fusion of pop and classical" than taking a pink floyd tune and throwing an orchestra and choir on it (nb i actually like "atom heart mother" better than "close to the edge" so not throwing shade on floyd or ron geesin here)

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 September 2022 22:25 (three years ago)

John Covach's analysis of it ("Progressive Rock, ‘Close to the Edge,’ and the Boundaries of Style" in Understanding Rock: Essays in Musical Analysis, edited by John Covach and Graeme M. Boone, Oxford University Press, 1997) was very good. He broke it down as a significantly expanded AABA form. I also did an analysis that I presented at a bunch of conferences in a previous life but it wasn't as good.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 September 2022 22:34 (three years ago)

another one i bought because i was excited to be seeing them in a month and i wanted to know the album first. all these 50th anniveresaries are bombarding me with my ancientness.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 18 September 2022 00:34 (three years ago)

oh dear, I do wonder how these yes shows are going to go

akm, Sunday, 18 September 2022 01:08 (three years ago)

The CTTE 50th show was my first gig post-Covid. Fear not, they perform it superbly well. The earlier pre-CTTE set was fine, if a somewhat inevitably ersatz experience, but the album run through was where they stepped up, fully engaged and properly took off. It was technically immaculate, individually characterful, emotionally true, and performed with love and joy.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 September 2022 07:51 (three years ago)

one month passes...

listening to Fragile now. this was my first Yes album and actually one of the first records I ever bought. that was 20 years ago! I still have the same copy! looks scratched up but it plays great. I haven't listened to it in a while but damned if it still ain't great. you can focus on any individual instrument here and have a blast. "South Side of the Sky" is such a cool epic for them. they're like trying to do heavy, evil-sounding rock but they can't cuz they're Yes. instead they hit on a really different sound that I don't think any other band quite captures. I dig the interludes too. I really disagree with anyone who thinks the album would be better without 'em (ok, maybe "Cans and Brahams"). and does "Long Distance Runaround" have the sickest bassline ever played on FM radio or what? such a classic record

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 04:04 (three years ago)

South Side is my early morning cold as fuck walk to the bus stop jam

calstars, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 11:06 (three years ago)

The long bridge section of "South Side" with the jazzy piano and wordless vocal harmonies is so gorgeous. For some reason I always forget it exists, so it always hits like the most pleasant surprise when I listen to that song

J. Sam, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 13:40 (three years ago)

^^ that's what actually convinced me to put it on! I was thinking of getting yessed out and then that "laaaa laaaa la-la-la-la" bit popped in my head so I was like Fragile it is

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 13:59 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/uTwOjvy.jpg

Almost

calstars, Friday, 28 October 2022 01:09 (three years ago)

i once saw nyc graffitti where underneath "Clapton is God" someone had scrawled "Bruford is Good."

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 28 October 2022 09:58 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHvytBFDEZo

I didn’t know how close these two bohemoths came to releasing something. Thank god they didn’t

calstars, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:50 (three years ago)

two weeks pass...

why late at night does Lizzo get all yessed out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qRQUNnm3MM

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 14:24 (three years ago)

Nice, I would've pegged her as more of a Tull fan

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 14:52 (three years ago)

what percentage of the audience recognized that

calstars, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:16 (three years ago)

just took a DNA test and it turns out I am 100% that shining flying purple wolfhound

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:17 (three years ago)

how can the woodwind with its twerks all around me

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:37 (three years ago)

Same part of the same song also interpolated by LCD Soundsystem at their Long Goodbye show

Other Yes songs are available -eg fail-safe party-starter "The Gates of Delirium"

Harthill Services (Neil Willett), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 21:46 (three years ago)

“So cold that we cried” always gets the stadium emotional

calstars, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 22:27 (three years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpddVVqZyLw

so this is awesome, "Crawdaddy Simone" by the Syndicats, Steve Howe's earliest band. starts out pretty standard UK electric blues but hang on, at about 1:20 the drummer starts going apeshit and there are parts of these (the middle and end) that are wilder than any Yardbirds, up there with the Monks for feral pummeling energy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2022 16:29 (three years ago)

A Joe Meek Production!

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 December 2022 16:33 (three years ago)

oh shit really?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2022 16:35 (three years ago)

Yup! Although according to https://www.last.fm/music/The+Syndicats/+wiki Howe had left by the time they cut that track.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 December 2022 16:41 (three years ago)

two weeks pass...

leave it

ncxkd, Friday, 23 December 2022 03:00 (three years ago)

one month passes...

Pretty interesting interview with Benoît David:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/benoit-david-yes-singer-still-hurts-1234671770/

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 9 February 2023 07:03 (three years ago)

Wow. Seems like a good dude. I think FFH is tgeir last great (very good?) album. I’m happy to read that he’s doing fine. Thanks for the link, Tarfumes!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 9 February 2023 08:20 (three years ago)

Yeah, wow indeed. I am not the biggest Yes fan but that interview was amazing from beginning to end.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 February 2023 08:51 (three years ago)

yea exactly the sort of inside baseball I've always wondered about with this group. curious that him and Anderson both had the same vocal issues...wonder if the fog machines they used had anything to do with it?

frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:46 (three years ago)

I suspect it's more to do with the demands on the singers put on them by the instrumentalists. That is, it's far less physically taxing for a bassist or keyboardist to play every single night, but a singer needs rest, especially one singing at the top of their range for three hours a night. It seems like Squire et al were never particularly sensitive to the physical demands singers are subject to.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:48 (three years ago)

More to the point, Squire shit on David because he cracked on the highest note in Yes's oeuvre during one concert, but kept booking tours with 3-4 dates in a row.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:51 (three years ago)

i liked when he said styx were always super-tight but the yes lads were sloppier and then worried he was going to get sued

mark s, Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:54 (three years ago)

sued by the ghost of chris squire for pointing out he didn't practice enough

mark s, Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:54 (three years ago)

To be fair, the music of Styx is a lot more straightforward than the music of Yes.
I'm glad to hear he's made his peace with his time in the band.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:05 (three years ago)

funny he mentioned it being too loud on stage, I think Jon A. complained about the same thing, particularly the bass. can't imagine it's easy to sing when you can't really hear yourself.

frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:12 (three years ago)

funny he mentioned it being too loud on stage, I think Jon A. complained about the same thing, particularly the bass. can't imagine it's easy to sing when you can't really hear yourself.

Don't know why this would be a problem in the era of in-ear monitors. You get your own dialed-in mix right there — "onstage sound" shouldn't be an issue at all.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:22 (three years ago)

I remember people talking about the Yes/Styx tour at the time, apparently Yes were sloppy as fuck for the first few dates due to the fact they couldn't be arsed to rehearse properly. Plus drink problems. Styx are this super-slick Vegas/Broadway live act nowadays, probably goes down better in the sheds than Squire et al stumbling through Yours Is No Disgrace every night.

the kraftwerk killer (Matt #2), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:25 (three years ago)

In theory, sure, but if your mix is all set in your in-ears, and then the bassist decides during the show, "Fuck it, I'm turning up," there's not a lot you can do about that, especially if the bassist uses speaker cabinets onstage. We've all been to shows where someone couldn't hear someone else properly -- with or without in-ears -- and all of those shows had lengthy soundchecks. Ginger Baker's hatred of Jack Bruce is almost entirely down to Bruce turning way up during shows -- from 1967 through to the Cream reunion in 2005. Sometimes musicians, in the heat of the moment, think turning up is a) a good and fun idea, and b) won't affect anyone else.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:30 (three years ago)

Also think about how penetrating bass frequencies are and how far they can travel

calstars, Thursday, 9 February 2023 19:17 (three years ago)

yea wouldn't surprise me if both Jon & Benoit had to oversing to compensate and blew their vocal chords that way

frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2023 19:18 (three years ago)

that rolling stone interview series is so good, binge-read all of them and desperately want more, was not a fan of the addition of Benoit David at the time but he sounds like a great guy that did everything he could, I get Anderson not wanting to do Drama material, I guess, but I wonder why he didn't want to do Astral Traveller

Florin Cuchares, Friday, 10 February 2023 05:14 (three years ago)

just want to say that i appreciate tarfumes waiting to post this until it was late at night in the u.s.

mookieproof, Friday, 10 February 2023 05:49 (three years ago)

Lol

https://www.rollingstone.com/t/king-for-a-day/

calstars, Friday, 10 February 2023 12:16 (three years ago)

Some of that kind of stuff I remember pretty vividly from that book by the drummer for Semisonic, how the other two guys had already been in the other band, Trip Shakespeare, and were much more world weary and battle-hardened.

The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 February 2023 12:25 (three years ago)

Always think that singing is- like guitar but more so- kind of deceptively easy to start on - everyone can do a little something! - but then really, really hard to do at a high level. Bass on the other hand, particularly electric bass, is a very logical and straightforward instrument. You still have to put in a lot of work to be at the top of the game but the practice throughput is much higher. So somebody playing a lot of fast and loud notes all over the place on the skinny neck of a Rickenbacker giving someone else a hard time, I dunno about that.

The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 February 2023 13:08 (three years ago)

Lol

https://www.rollingstone.com/t/king-for-a-day/

― calstars, Friday, February 10, 2023 12:16 PM (yesterday)

A must-read series for anyone considering joining one of their favorite bands as a replacement.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:39 (three years ago)

Dennis DeYoung has weighed on in Burt Bacharach's passing. #onethread

after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 February 2023 04:18 (three years ago)

https://youtube.com/@progessiverockstories

Have you guys heard these little yes album documentaries? Really good

calstars, Thursday, 16 February 2023 03:35 (three years ago)

It’s not late at night rn where I am but just popping in to recommend the latest YES “Ultimate Music Guide” thing from NME or Uncut - unsure. It’s an engrossing read as far as these things go. Love the ‘70s interviews.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 18 February 2023 14:00 (three years ago)

I’m at a bar where it’s “prog night” and currently Jon Anderson doing Awaken with some Icelandic orchestra is projected on the wall, life is good

frogbs, Friday, 3 March 2023 01:40 (three years ago)

By the way LJ if you’re still here I did request Cardiacs “Flap Off You Beak” and it KILLED. I guess I found the right crowd. Weeeeird feeling

frogbs, Friday, 3 March 2023 01:45 (three years ago)

This is up in WI? I can only imagine it is several shades of weird.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 March 2023 02:01 (three years ago)

Prog night sounds amazing, I wish I knew about something like that down here.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 3 March 2023 02:07 (three years ago)

Dance on a Volcano lmao this rules

frogbs, Friday, 3 March 2023 02:36 (three years ago)

that jon anderson with todmobile concert is really something

was checking out a solo jon anderson show the other night and like, I can't imagine what fresh hell it would be to play yes with just an acoustic guitar, probably helps that he sang/co-wrote the tunes but he really does an admirable job, would see a solo jon show in a heartbeat

Florin Cuchares, Friday, 3 March 2023 03:07 (three years ago)

https://youtube.com/@progessiverockstories

I only watched the one of these he did for Duke and it was really good. Need to watch more.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 3 March 2023 04:51 (three years ago)

oh yeah I've only watched that guys Yes videos but they are very good and are clearly a passion project, lord knows how much time it must take to research and produce them but very much picking up a dropped ball for all of us late night in the u.s.

Florin Cuchares, Friday, 3 March 2023 05:21 (three years ago)

This is up in WI? I can only imagine it is several shades of weird.

yeah it brings some strange and interesting people out. for me it's nice because I actually get to be the young guy at the bar again :) also lets me indulge my inner On Cinema Gregg Turkington, half the conversations were just "you know what other band this guy was in??"

frogbs, Friday, 3 March 2023 14:33 (three years ago)

MIRROR to the SKY (5/19/23) better not blow. that would be three in a row if so

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 19:04 (three years ago)

I mean, I'm not holding out a lot of hope that this is going to break that run, but I'll be thrilled to be proven wrong. Not having "Mystery Tour" on the tracklist already makes it better than the last one.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 19:18 (three years ago)

By the way LJ if you’re still here I did request Cardiacs “Flap Off You Beak” and it KILLED. I guess I found the right crowd. Weeeeird feeling

― frogbs, Friday, 3 March 2023 01:45 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

siiiick! gj

imago, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 19:23 (three years ago)

three songs longer than nine minutes. the title track is the longest since "endless dream" on talk. my hope is steve howe is really feeling it again

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 19:33 (three years ago)

That Todmobile/Jon Andrson version of Awaken might be the best version ever

MaresNest, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 20:19 (three years ago)

^^^this, i often watch it

imago, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 20:32 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dMQpNP1wGY

I love how Doug immediately cops the idea behind the chord sequence in the 'workings of man' section.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 20:51 (three years ago)

that big grin! i know the feeling pal. "wow!"

imago, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:02 (three years ago)

there's an obvious question i have regarding a certain other band our man could be made to hear, and it appears the answer is 'not yet', my vote is 'jitterbug'

imago, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:16 (three years ago)

okay it's 'dirty boy' really, obviously, ffs, lol

imago, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:20 (three years ago)

Everso...

MaresNest, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:33 (three years ago)

new song out today. it's uh...not bad? some nice playing from Sherwood (who I suspect wrote most of this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WSqjH6mFhk

frogbs, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:22 (three years ago)

did roger dean do that art because it looks like someone did some fake dean-inspired work

song is surprisingly not horrible but it's not good either ('find my place in the jewel collective' no)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 10 March 2023 14:55 (three years ago)

It appears he did, yeah

MaresNest, Friday, 10 March 2023 15:03 (three years ago)

All of this is very...naff.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:38 (three years ago)

It sounds like a Yes song put together with AI so, yeah, that album cover is probably ideal.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:39 (three years ago)

sometimes my favorite yes is Drama yes, and I wish they had leaned more into that era a decade ago when that was the lineup, with a ringer on vox, tho presumably even trevor horn realized that was a mistake as he re-recorded the vocals himself later

and I get that trevor horn was never going to tour the countryside singing in yes for funsies, but it might have been cool to somehow keep him on as the brian wilson and have a bruce johnston to play the county fair or whatever

anyways steve howe's yes is fine I guess, it sounds kind of like yes, I admire that they are still bothering to write new music at least

Florin Cuchares, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:07 (three years ago)

I really like the cover, I think some of Dean's newer work looks different because it doesn't have the same textured detail? I didn't like his new version of a Uriah Heep album I bought recently, it wasn't an improvement and I wonder why he changed it?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 March 2023 22:56 (three years ago)

did roger dean do that art because it looks like someone did some fake dean-inspired work

song is surprisingly not horrible but it's not good either ('find my place in the jewel collective' no)

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, March 10, 2023 9:55 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i want to believe he's singing about the jeweled antler collective

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 10 March 2023 23:14 (three years ago)

Looks like someone hipped Doug to the Todmobile version of Awaken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zVT2SNjM44

MaresNest, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:30 (three years ago)

This might be the worst Dean cover

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Asia_-_Omega_%282010%29_front_cover.jpg

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 10 March 2023 23:48 (three years ago)

lol yeah c'mon roger dean, have we polled dean covers? was pretty unassailable for at least three decades right?

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:11 (three years ago)

Relayer is my favorite and Dean's favorite too

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:34 (three years ago)

Whose idea was it to put a butt on the cover of going for the one

calstars, Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:02 (three years ago)

its stupid that steve jon and rick arent touring together with some amazing drummer before they all kick the bucket

kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:02 (three years ago)

hipignosis! xpost

kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:03 (three years ago)

Topographic oceans cover is my favorite

calstars, Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:03 (three years ago)

my favorite yes cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13HWa1ssYl8

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:57 (three years ago)

The Anderson/Rabin/Wakeman band was pretty good at least. Too bad they didn’t do a studio album.

frogbs, Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:57 (three years ago)

Maybe I'm feeling particularly uncharitable but that new song made my brain bleed.

Listening to Magnification, an album I maintain is underrated, as a palate cleanser.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 12 March 2023 23:50 (three years ago)

I CAN FEEL NO SENZS OF MEASURE

calstars, Sunday, 12 March 2023 23:52 (three years ago)

One down, one to go

calstars, Saturday, 18 March 2023 01:22 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAP_LwJOAQM

MaresNest, Sunday, 2 April 2023 10:46 (two years ago)

Whoa!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 April 2023 19:17 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

This is kinda mad.

Jon "It’s amazing to me. I don't know if you know the story but, these wonderful musicians, I met them a week ago, and we've been rehearsing for six days and this is our first show. I can't believe how good these guys are!"

The band geeks are these YT musicians that do lots of proggy covers and suchlike, pretty good show!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g62gVU9A8fU

MaresNest, Monday, 24 April 2023 20:54 (two years ago)

Maybe we can get two different warring factions of Yes touring again!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 April 2023 21:17 (two years ago)

they sound pretty good! better than the current Yes for sure. pretty tough setlist they're tackling too.

there are actually a few really talented prog cover bands out there...typically they start writing original music at some point

frogbs, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:25 (two years ago)

Jon with live karaoke. But he sounds decent , i.e. the “sharp distance how can the wind with so very round me” part of “heart”
(More Tambourine)

calstars, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:23 (two years ago)

So so far from being karaoke imho. Band sounds powerful & committed. Jon on fabulous form. Fair brought a tear to the eye!

Sunset Claus (Uncle Juice), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 02:30 (two years ago)

A friend was sniffy and said, 'They're playing them a little too fast.' But I think he might be right in some cases.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:35 (two years ago)

Jon + buncha randos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that has called itself Yes for the past 30 years

imago, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:39 (two years ago)

Agree, Jon and some School of Rock kids are more fun to listen to than the cadaverous Yes of recent years.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:48 (two years ago)

Fantastic!!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 11:52 (two years ago)

since covid i haven't been checking the listings, but the "space at westbury" is just a couple miles from me. reconverted movie theater. i would have enjoyed that.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 12:57 (two years ago)

Seems they've been swopping out Ritual for Gates of Delerium at some gigs too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtoY3PBOVCA

MaresNest, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 13:04 (two years ago)

Jon's range is impressively intact -- I guess being an "uptight vegetarian" (as per the RS Record Guide) worked out pretty well for him. And while the band's energy is surely in part down to "holy crap, we're playing Yes songs with Jon Anderson!", when was the last time any lineup of Yes played with that degree of enthusiasm?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 14:09 (two years ago)

yeah I'd be way more enthusiastic about seeing these guys rather than the actual Yes - I mean it's basically the Yessongs setlist + a few other epics, played nearly as well as the classic band did, idk what else you could ask for in 2023. dig how much fun these guys are having on stage too - I always disliked how some prog bands were content to just sit perfectly still; maybe it makes more sense for music that's more brooding and dark like King Crimson but Yes at their best are like a rollercoaster, they should be rocking the fuck out. Gentle Giant were real good at that too.

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 14:43 (two years ago)

i would buy tix for this in a heartbeat

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

I enjoyed the Band Geek channel during lockdown especially. Like a lot of Yes and Rush covers on YT they had a great female singer. Not to derail, there's a fantastic version of 'Behind The Lines' that I watched a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJKxTDza60

MaresNest, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 16:13 (two years ago)

listening to a Battles album rn and I forgot that Jon Anderson is actually on it! god I love him

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

Just finished the Anderson show. It's supposed to be uncool to wear a t-shirt of the band you're seeing when you go to a show, so how uncool is it to wear a t-shirt of the band you're *in* when performing a show?

nickn, Friday, 5 May 2023 03:20 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

first song on the new one has starcastle vibes, in a good way? so much more promising immediate first impression than the first two records with davison -- more like the better stuff he recorded with glass hammer. very little downes going on, but billy is doing a solid chris squire (RIP!), and this new drummer swings harder than alan white (RIP!!) had for a long time. all morbid sentiment notwithstanding, maybe overall on par with fly from here / magnification / the ladder? "all connected" does seem to be dragging on a bit though, and now we're confronted with a second consecutive nine-minute song, "luminosity", which sounds like a demo for the frozen 3 soundtrack, more to be endured, to prove one's unconditional devotion to past epics, than enjoyed for whatever it's trying to do. seven minutes into this i'm ready to throw in the towel. this album so far has been mostly appalling if i'm being honest, but thank god it exists! let's keep rolling to the next song, the unpromisingly titled "living out their dream". this seems to be some kind of boogie. and howe's singing? is there something wrong with my EQ levels? my speakers? who let them release this? what do they think when they listen to the yes album? it's almost over. twenty seconds till the title track, the longest yes song since the closer on talk (not counting the "fly from here" suite). okay, i could be beaten down, but this is more like it? steve howe out in the desert, take that william tyler? just give me one guys for the yes favorite playlist. it's been a long time since you forced benoit out, for what? these three albums? just give me one legit jam. two minutes into "mirror to the sky" now, twelve to go, and so far so good. three minutes in, and vocals begin, and it still sounds like a real yes song? there's some tough midtempo noodle sledding minutes say four through six, but i'm still here for it, then we're back into "shoot high aim low" territory and ponderous soundscapes that (again, maybe i'm beaten down by all this?) somehow work? it's possible this song, at long last, is the first keeper of the davison run? i almost don't want to listen to the final song, and spoil the effect, but of course i will, and it somewhat does, though it might be the third best song on the album (and points for uncanny 'are you talking to me?' proleptic lyrics: "not lost on me, how bittersweet the mockery of irony")? i don't know if i have the strength to listen to the three "bonus tracks"

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 May 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

much respsect for giving it a go. I'm trying it now, first two tracks were fine and yeah Billy is replicating Squire's bass tone, though maybe it's more like Squire with arthritis. wouldn't say it's as good as the better Glass Hammer stuff with Davison though, I always thought some of that could have been a theoretical follow up to Going for the One. as you mentioned it's much more Starcastle.
still those two are better than anything on the last two albums. "Luminosity" took me right out of it though. and "Living Out Their Dream"...what is going on with the vocals there? but the epic is kinda good! god, I wish all the tempos were like...20% faster.

frogbs, Friday, 19 May 2023 17:51 (two years ago)

I agree though Mirror to the Sky (the song) I think is good enough to be buried in some 2 hour Yes deep cut playlist featuring like, the best stuff from Keys and Magnification

frogbs, Friday, 19 May 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

also I braved the 3 bonus tracks and they're...kind of decent? some nice playing from Howe and "Unknown Place" even has a sweet little jam session in the middle. they're all a bit more pop oriented than the stuff on the first disc. again, all these tempos need to be a lot faster, that would make some of those guitar runs actually kind of exciting

so yeah I guess if you cut out Luminosity and Dream you'd have an ok 50 minute album, or at least something that I think would make a pretty good Starcastle reunion

frogbs, Friday, 19 May 2023 18:19 (two years ago)

i wish it weren't so but davison just doesn't sound like he believes in the metaphysical like jon anderson always has, and trevor horn, trevor rabin, and benoit david could all credibly approach. we have heaven! tell the moondog, tell the march hare!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:04 (two years ago)

You guys must really love yes to give them a chance in 2023. Beyond my ken. Cheers

calstars, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:33 (two years ago)

ditto

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:37 (two years ago)

I have posted in this thread about 4000 times so yeah I’d say

frogbs, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:59 (two years ago)

if it's a post about ween or soul coughing or end-stage yes, i know it's our best beloved frogbs

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 May 2023 01:14 (two years ago)

#frogs

calstars, Saturday, 20 May 2023 01:21 (two years ago)

this album def isn't terrible like Heaven and Earth, but it wasn't very memorable after my first listen today. but I was very mildly surprised not to hate it.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 20 May 2023 01:36 (two years ago)

What do you mean end stage, this band’s kicking around another 30 years

frogbs, Saturday, 20 May 2023 01:45 (two years ago)

<3

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 May 2023 02:12 (two years ago)

gave it another listen today and my opinion holds: it's not offensive, but it kind of went in one ear and out the other. at least there weren't any songs I skipped though.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 20 May 2023 22:15 (two years ago)

Thinking about the recent Peter Gabriel setlists, and imagining the probable unlikelihood of Jon Anderson doing a solo show where the earliest song he performs is from 1977.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 21 May 2023 02:48 (two years ago)

if given the choice tonight i'd probably go see jon perform olias of sunhillow rather than pete's tour. the cordial relationships between pete and the other guys though would make me want to see him reunited with genesis -- mostly because besides the guy who replaced phil on calling all stations, no genesister was ever forced out -- way more than jon teaming back up with steve. there's something karmic in anderson ending up in this position, it's sad to say. pete left genesis on awkward but not fatally acrimonious terms. jon forced how many members out of yes, to "improve" the band? banks is out, howe is in. the very next album, kaye is out, and wakeman is in. there's lots of musical chairs in bands, sure, but after all these years, jon's the only living original member, while the first replacement he recruited way back in the day now owns the rights to the name of his band

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:50 (two years ago)

In an interview done in the late 90s (so after Union), Bill Bruford portrayed Anderson as someone constantly caught running on the record company hamster wheel, taking big advances and then striving to live up to past successes. Maybe that has changed as the music business itself has collapsed. It is sort of funny that he was such a dictator in the group when his public image was Mr. Spiritual Seeker.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 21 May 2023 14:05 (two years ago)

The decision to bring in Howe and Wakeman was for legitimate artistic reasons, you can tell on Time and a Word the direction they want to go but they just didn't have the chops yet. so they pick up Howe and right from the first second on The Yes Album you can tell he was the missing piece. then Wakeman on Fragile, kind of the same thing. after that it was all business, almost with Moneyball-like efficiency, particularly when it came to picking up guys like Moraz - that band Refugee was marketed as a sort of reformation of The Nice, with some Swiss dude in Emerson's place, but if you really break it down like 80% of the writing is Moraz, including pretty much all the good parts. So Yes grabbing him was a real shrewd movie. And then kicking him to the curb as soon as Wakeman wanted back in...well that's Yes too. Remember the only reason Kaye was tabbed to replace Jobson for 90125 is so that legally they could call themselves "Yes" again. They've always been pretty ruthless in that way. Speaking of karma how about the decision to go after Jon Davison? Glass Hammer picked him as vocalist solely because of his similarity to Jon Anderson, I think. And he wound up being so good at it that Yes themselves stole him away. I think that's pretty funny.

I actually didn't know it was Jon's doing to get Howe and Wakeman but it makes sense. I always thought Jon was the dude who made Yes go the extra mile back in their heyday - I think about the story of him recording Olias, pulling these 40-hour marathon sessions that would end until he passed out, only to wake up and find parts of the record were finished that he didn't even remember doing, idk I don't really see any of the other members of the band going that hard. He also seems like he would be an obnoxious dude to work with - Glass Hammer actually got him to appear on an album, but apparently he had this strict rule about not singing any words he didn't write himself, so his contributions are just "dee dee" and "daa daa" here and there. But he's still a legend and I love him on principle, so I really hope this new band does come around.

frogbs, Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:54 (two years ago)

Somehow strange to me that yes and crimson and purple could go through all these personnel changes and still exist as opposed to others that had the same members more or less

calstars, Sunday, 21 May 2023 19:08 (two years ago)

Squire was supposedly a tough guy to deal with, as well. I wouldn't lay all the power move stuff solely on Anderson.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 21 May 2023 19:31 (two years ago)

As an old friend did the orchestral arrangements on Mirror to the Sky, I gave it a loyalty listen, and I'm honestly impressed - way better than I was expecting, the title track an immediate standout. Perhaps seeing the current line-up last year has helped me accept them as a legit band. Now on the second play and enjoying it even more.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:17 (two years ago)

did a record show on Sunday and only got a few things including my 3rd copy of Drama, listening now and I was right, I shouldn't have sold my 2nd one (1st one was in high school eons ago, also long gone)

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:36 (two years ago)

Howe really shreds on this one imho

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:37 (two years ago)

can't remember who coined "Yuggles" but lol

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:37 (two years ago)

i wanna get yessed out right now

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:41 (two years ago)

join me

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:42 (two years ago)

what's your poison?

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:42 (two years ago)

well right now it's Drama, god I still remember every fuckin word of this record from 9th grade

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:43 (two years ago)

oh you're doing Yuggles!

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:45 (two years ago)

why not, i'm in

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:46 (two years ago)

this LP is VG with some surface noise, I foresee a 4th copy in my future someday

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:49 (two years ago)

i'm just streaming it on youtube

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:03 (two years ago)

miss my yes albums tho. i don't think any of em were as clean as your 3rd copy of drama but they were good yes albums

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:04 (two years ago)

this album def has a 'i can't tell if i'm listening to yes or the buggles' thing goin on, it's the battletoads/double dragon of rock.

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 May 2023 00:29 (two years ago)

i find myself playing "which band am i listening to?", for this reason i'm only somewhat yessed out.

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 May 2023 00:32 (two years ago)

I remember hearing Tempus Fugit as a child and thinking it was the coolest song ever. At 15 I was convinced it was Styx and downloaded a bunch of their albums trying to find it. Little did I know it was a band I was already getting into! It was so awesome to get to the end of this record and be like…holy shit it’s THAT song

frogbs, Thursday, 25 May 2023 00:35 (two years ago)

One of the guys from Glass Hammer is on a sword and sorcery discord I go to, he writes fantasy books too (shocking, I know).

I don't see myself getting around to all the later Yes albums for a long time because the solo albums are so much more exciting.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 4 June 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

well right now it's Drama, god I still remember every fuckin word of this record from 9th grade

― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:43 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh you're doing Yuggles!

― No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:45 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

why not, i'm in

― No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, May 24, 2023

I've probably mentioned this before, but it's still amazing that the now-closed Grumpy's Bar in downtown Minneapolis (the Northeast outpost is still standing, thankfully) featured "Machine Messiah" on its karaoke list. How does that (really) happen? Who signed off on that?

I was really tempted to try it, but the prospect of standing on stage under the lights for 10 minutes, with maybe half of that featuring any vocals whatsoever, with everyone waiting and watching, seemed way too daunting.

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Sunday, 4 June 2023 18:32 (two years ago)

I've learned the hard way (doing Deacon Blues) that karaoke tracks with lengthy instrumental sections don't work well.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 4 June 2023 18:57 (two years ago)

Haha, shades of SCTV's Dave Thomas as Richard Harris doing MacArthur Park

sawdust lagoon, Sunday, 4 June 2023 19:40 (two years ago)

standing on stage under the lights for 10 minutes, with maybe half of that featuring any vocals whatsoever, with everyone waiting and watching

This karaoke option was a means to get you to empathize with 1980 Trevor Horn.

I've learned the hard way (doing Deacon Blues) that karaoke tracks with lengthy instrumental sections don't work well.

That's why you've got to bring your tenor sax with you to karaoke.

shades of SCTV's Dave Thomas as Richard Harris doing MacArthur Park

"Who threw that brick?!?"

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 4 June 2023 20:10 (two years ago)

Will admit to feeling anxious about the consequences of playing just what I feel.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 4 June 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

finally getting around to the new one. despite the glaring missteps that frogbs totally calls upthread, the high points are good enough to make this easily my favorite of the David/Davison era. the title track is really good and I totally agree that cutting the awful "Luminosity"/"Living Out the Dream" pairing and shifting the "bonus tracks" to the main album would have made this even better.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

I am not listening to Yes tonight I am listening to STARCASTLE which I'll be honest is so much more fun and direct than most Yes music, plus the album I'm listening to (Fountains of Light) is produced by Roy Thomas Baker so it's got this real punchy sound to it. Plus the keyboards sound like casino slot machines! what's not to like?

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 04:56 (two years ago)

Ha! Fun band! Never heard them before. Thanks for the recommendation.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 14:49 (two years ago)

I like Starcastle, and long for a world where I can start a band that sort of sounds like Yes and score a record deal, was not aware that the lead singer also sang lead on the first REO Speedwagon record!

It's ok, it's no Starcastle

Florin Cuchares, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 06:25 (two years ago)

seems to be very little footage of them in their heyday but here's a minute and a half from 1977 which is pretty hilarious. fits the description I heard from a guy who'd actually seen them around this time - "felt like I was seeing Spinal Tap"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AbIyP7xmVE

cut to the crowd is kinda sad, nobody seems to be paying attention to the band at all. maybe they weren't loud enough??

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:27 (two years ago)

that's a big crowd! love that footage, thx

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:45 (two years ago)

Looks like that clip of the crowd is either before or after the concert, probably after, given its chronology.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:52 (two years ago)

hmmm yeah you're probably right, I mean the footage doesn't sync up with the music anyway. I mean you see Luttrell strut (??) up to the mic at :54 although in the audio he's clearly singing already

I like Starcastle, and long for a world where I can start a band that sort of sounds like Yes and score a record deal

the funny thing is their first record was released in 1976 which implies that this band was signed to fill the void from Yes breaking up. now that I mention it what this band really reminds me of are those reviews of Olias of Sunhillow where the author clearly hates the album but writes about it in a way that makes it sound awesome

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 15:03 (two years ago)

also I just found out they made a comeback record in 2007 which I'm listening to now - it's pretty good! it's a bit Pro Tooled up and I'm pretty sure this isn't their original singer but it kinda sounds to me like "what if Heaven and Earth didn't suck"

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 15:36 (two years ago)

I now realize I get Starcastle and Fireballet confused.

nickn, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

author clearly hates the album but writes about it in a way that makes it sound awesome

― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 16:03 (three hours ago

Love reviews like that, jerky sounding music journalists being scathing about something great yet they describe it fairly well

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:25 (two years ago)

all-time classic in that genre:

The Cardiacs didn't make it easy to like their second album, too happy to let their whirligig of shattered atonal pop come apart at its seams. The band's technique for hoisting a radical thrill out of audience discomfort was pushed to extremes ("Fast Robert," "Baby Heart Dirt") and it suddenly felt forced and phony, like a poor Dadaist trying to make do in a world of Starter jackets and Technotronic. Great for those who liked staticy hip-hop, piercing keyboards, Long Ranger harmonicas, and the sound of a tape deck being clicked off, less so for those who didn't.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:21 (two years ago)

I like Starcastle, and long for a world where I can start a band that sort of sounds like Yes and score a record deal

as hard as it is to believe, such a world once existed

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/ashratom/usa-midwest-ontario-progressive-rock-1970s_early-80s/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 July 2023 18:49 (two years ago)

where's happy the man on that list? i guess virginia isn't midwest. i saw happy the man once in college.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:59 (two years ago)

ashratom is pretty topographically strict in that list

there's no reason not to mention finch for instance besides land mass restrictions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hglwpSuRDo

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:02 (two years ago)

xxp amazing list tyvm

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:03 (two years ago)

was thinking about this when I put on The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway yesterday, like back in 1974 there must've been a very real feeling of "hey, the people want rock operas"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

i first heard "lamb" in the room of a friend who went on to be a super big honcho at universal music group, so i guess he knew what the people wanted.

https://eventcalendar.adelphi.edu/live/image/gid/2/width/609/height/406/263_Mike_Sammis_Headshot.jpg

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:38 (two years ago)

I now realize I get Starcastle and Fireballet confused.

Add Pisswasser to that list

calstars, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:38 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Such beauty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeWH7xd5ZS8

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 20:56 (two years ago)

wha-haaaa???

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 21:51 (two years ago)

Wow

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 23:04 (two years ago)

one month passes...

once again reminded that the middle section of Gates of Delirium is the most thrilling passage in prog history

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:54 (two years ago)

have often wondered what the world might be like if yes had kept patrick moraz on for a couple more records, not that I mind wakeman but moraz brought a certain flavor, and was fresh and excited, then again if that had worked out we probably wouldn't have drama and I love drama

also just watched an interview with keith emerson and in addition to trying to poach chris squire and then steve howe at various points, was asked to join yes circa relayer, to which he replied "lol no why would I do that" could have been interesting though

Florin Cuchares, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 03:40 (two years ago)

a Moraz-led Yes album in 1975 would've really been something. he cranked out some really exciting music with Refugee despite his band being the not-particularly-skilled other two guys from The Nice. can only imagine what he would have been able to do with guys like Squire and Howe. they'd never let it happen though

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 03:57 (two years ago)

yeah god those poor two dudes from nice/refugee, they're really pretty great players but just massively overshadowed by these incredible writers/keyboardists that they couldn't get to stick around, really like that one refugee album though

in that interview emerson says he wanted squire for a nascent elp but squire wasn't comfortable singing lead vocals, but had a singer in mind, emerson wasn't into it, wanted to keep it a three piece

singer in question was not named, who could it be? this is after yes was already a thing so presumably squire was prepared to leave yes and start this other band with emerson and a mystery singer

will never not be fascinated by these old school music biz stories where all of these desperately talented people all somehow lived in the same area and knew of one another, how exciting

Florin Cuchares, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 04:46 (two years ago)

i mind wakeman, for sucking

mark s, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 09:17 (two years ago)

time to crowbar the hallelujah chorus into my "solo" so the oaves can hoot and holler

mark s, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 09:19 (two years ago)

Ranking the keyboardists from the three times I've seen Yes live:
1. Geoff Downes (2022 - superb)
2. Oliver Wakeman (2001 - solid)
3. Rick Wakeman (2003 - clunky, corny, overly florid in a way that didn't mesh with the other performers)

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 10:13 (two years ago)

singer in question was not named, who could it be?

okay I vaguely remember this story and think it might actually have been Randy Bachman?

will never not be fascinated by these old school music biz stories where all of these desperately talented people all somehow lived in the same area and knew of one another, how exciting

yeah I love this shit, super cool to see all those 70s German records with appearances by Klaus Schulze or Roedelius or Harold Grosskopf. and of course Connie Plank being the go-to guy to produce all of it (was Eddy Offord that sort of figure in the prog scene?). and of course the entire YEN Records scene in Japan where seemingly every single LP would have an appearance by a YMO member (or a songwriting credit!). nothing like that currently I think, though I think vaporwave is sort of an online version of this

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:20 (two years ago)

Emerson Squire Bachman Palmer would have been very interesting, though I've read that Mitch Mitchell was in talks at some point and that would have been even more interestinger, also wonder why weird combos of established musicians don't happen much anymore, probably something to do with money

this is why I like boygenius, it harkens, harkens back, way back, back into time

and I understand the wakeman hate but the clips I've seen of ARW are pretty great, shame they never tried a record

though they did record a single and it is not very good

Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:38 (two years ago)

Again I think Wakeman was incredible in the 70s based on his Yes album and several great solo albums and no amount of folly since then is going to wipe that away, but I haven't heard much from later and its hard to take other's opinions seriously about his later music when even Yes fans are frequently wrong about his 70s work.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:18 (two years ago)

With Yes on record: great. Live with Yes in 2003: wrong-sounding outlier who just didn’t gel with the rest of the Topgraphic-era line-up.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:40 (two years ago)

with yes on record and on-stage in all eras: didn't gel and also sucked

mark s, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:52 (two years ago)

In 1970, days out of the Guess Who, Randy Bachman met an "orchestrator from Britain" who had done some arrangement work on an album by the Nice (presumably Joseph Eger). He had heard Bachman's instrumental solo album Axe and offered to put in a good word with Emerson, who was looking for a guitarist for his new group. Bachman "didn't want to join another band" at that point and so declined, but Emerson may never have known about this offer.
Also I don't believe he had even recorded a single lead vocal by that point, so I doubt he would have wound up singing.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:57 (two years ago)

me requesting songs at prog night yesterday

https://media.tenor.com/AhE2BNYK_8YAAAAC/yes-danielbryan.gif

frogbs, Friday, 8 September 2023 14:05 (two years ago)

four weeks pass...

i had no idea this had ever been condensed and released as a single

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Kqt0XznuI

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 6 October 2023 19:34 (two years ago)

holy shit I need that, it has a GoD edit on the A-side

https://www.discogs.com/release/3884063-Yes-Soon-from-The-Gates-Of-Delirium

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 6 October 2023 20:10 (two years ago)

I can understand sometimes only wanting to hear "Soon", but who would want it to fade in the middle of the guitar solo? Before that epochal E♭ min 6 to C 7 closing cadence?!?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 6 October 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

speaking of, this looks kind of interesting:

https://www.discogs.com/release/28552702-Yes-Yessingles

I don't think I've actually heard any of the 'single' versions, are they just straight edits? sounds like it might be pretty awkward but I'm intrigued nevertheless

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

A wonderful single ruined by a lousy shortened edit. Roundabout is a gutted nightmare, being reduced from its original 8:36 length to 3:27, and suffering from excessive cutting-down, the sudden jump cut from the first chorus to the organ solo is especially jarring. Long Distance Runaround on the other hand isn't too horrible of an edit, though the omission of the ending solo is irritating, in favor of a generic fadeout.

https://www.discogs.com/master/157793-Yes-Roundabout

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:39 (two years ago)

very weirdly, there are no youtube videos of these edits

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

I had the Soon and America single edits on a Yes box set I got in the early-90s.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

I own the "Roundabout" 45, it's about as intelligent an edit as one could hope for, although it omits the iconic E minor harmonics at the beginning, charging straight into the D major acoustic bit before the band comes in (so you also lose the contrast of ending the song on the E major).
You have to imagine this would have been the first Yes recording that a lot of people heard, even those who became die-hard LP-only fans.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 12 October 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

downloaded the Yessingles release, and yeah it's pretty awkward and strange

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:06 (two years ago)

I’m sorry but I absolutely love this, like a prog house track based on “owner of a lonely heart”

https://djprotein.bandcamp.com/album/be-yourself

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:55 (two years ago)

I'm 100% putting this in my DJ sets

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:33 (two years ago)

high five

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:42 (two years ago)

did this one ever get posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlceOSjU6XU
Alex Kassian - Leave Your Life

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:44 (two years ago)

that’s super lovely

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:05 (two years ago)

one month passes...

inside out, outside in, inside out, outside in, all of the way

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 November 2023 21:45 (two years ago)

downloaded the Yessingles release, and yeah it's pretty awkward and strange

― frogbs, Tuesday, October 17, 2023 2:06 PM (one month ago)

The "Sound Chaser" edit is especially strange, as it has none of the vocal verses, just the instrumental solos and the "cha-cha-cha" part, like the label was intentionally trolling the band!

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:06 (two years ago)

the idea of people wanting to listen to, let alone pay money for, singles edits of fucking *yes* is absolutely beyond me

don't surround yourself with yourself
go big or go home

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 02:39 (two years ago)

Sharp
Distance
How
Can
The wind
With its arms
All around me

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 02:42 (two years ago)

why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

not that there's an answer for this, or anyone would try to take a stab at one, but still
― trevor horn, Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:24 PM (nineteen years ago)

"yessed out"?
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:25 PM (nineteen years ago)

you know, in and around the lake, mountains come out of the sky, and they stand there. I'd like to know.
― trevor horn, Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:26 PM (nineteen years ago)

aye, lads. now this was how we started a thread, in them days of yore.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:04 (two years ago)

trevor otm

particularly since i had not realized this thread preceded 'chessed out'

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:11 (two years ago)

where is dave q tho

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:12 (two years ago)

zzz

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:16 (two years ago)

I see a man in a white car
Move like a ghost on the skyline
Take all your dreams, and you drive them away
Man in a white caaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:17 (two years ago)

SCHIND

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:41 (two years ago)

?

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:47 (two years ago)

So many people don't get what it means to be yessed out. Like, if you're not a dreamer easy in the chair that really fits you, what are you even doing?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:50 (two years ago)

SCHIND

əler
ia
praema
tuuu
rus

(boop boop)

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:18 (two years ago)

Oh right

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:24 (two years ago)

Dream more easy in the chair that really fits you

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:46 (two years ago)

found a nice copy of their self-titled debut a couple days ago, that record understandably gets overlooked and it's not all that proggy but it's really good. way better than Time and a Word imo

frogbs, Monday, 20 November 2023 15:16 (two years ago)

"survival" is so good

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 November 2023 16:01 (two years ago)

I've always loved that song.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 20 November 2023 16:15 (two years ago)

Once upon a time, I really loved prog rock. I don’t like all the gratuitous bits — weird time signatures and stuff, but what I loved was quite often Yes, Genesis or some prog band would hit these marvelously melodic, powerful, quasi-spiritual symphonic moments. The Beatles did that as well. Then punk rock came along and everybody was really relieved by the fact that there were suddenly these short, exciting songs. We all were listening to punk rock, and it was a breath of fresh air. But when I sit down and listen to a record now, I’m sure not listening to the Damned or the Sex Pistols. I’ve gone back to listening to Genesis, Pink Floyd and Yes.

https://tidal.com/magazine/article/church-kilbey/1-89814

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 November 2023 19:28 (two years ago)

did this one ever get posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlceOSjU6XU
Alex Kassian - Leave Your Life

― blazin' squab (NickB), 17. oktober 2023 22:44 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

that’s super lovely

― brimstead, 18. oktober 2023 00:05 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is wonderful

can alex kassian do no wrong?

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 30 November 2023 09:02 (two years ago)

Saw this on fb today, from Wakeman's memoirs.

Yes, we were the original Spinal Tap, says Rick Wakeman of Seventies prog-rock supergroup
We were playing a gig at the Manchester Free Trade Hall when I realised quite how different my lifestyle was from that of the other members of Yes.

Tales From Topographic Oceans, our grandiose 1973 album, was regarded by fans and critics alike as our most 'challenging' and I was really struggling with the tour.

Not because it was hard work - quite the opposite, in fact. As the keyboard player, there were quite a few passages where I had nothing to do or was just holding down one key.

There was a mad percussion section where everybody banged things. It lasted about ten minutes, though it felt like a year and a half when playing it - and probably when listening to it. It was a bit dull.

In those days, I used to have my roadie actually lying underneath the Hammond organ throughout the set. If anything went wrong he could try to fix it. Also, he could continually hand me my alcoholic drinks.

We'd often have a little chat and on this particular evening in Manchester, I thought he said: 'What are you doing after the show?'
'I'm going to have a curry,' I replied. 'What would you order?' It seemed a strangely specific question but I didn't have much else to do so I told him. 'Chicken vindaloo, pilau rice, half a dozen poppadums, bhindi bhaji, Bombay aloo and a stuffed paratha.'

About 30 minutes later, I started to get this distinct waft of curry. I looked down and my roadie was lying there holding up an Indian takeaway. 'What's that?' I asked.

'You said you wanted a curry.' 'No. I said I wanted a curry after the show...' However, it smelled really good so he passed up the little foil trays and I laid this lovely spread out on top of the keyboard and ate it.

The rest of the band weren't best pleased - after all, there was a certain mystique surrounding Yes.
The singer, guitarist, bassist and drummer were all thoughtful people - interested in philosophy and alternative lifestyles and this was an image at odds with the fact that the keyboard player was a beer-swilling, darts-playing, meat-eating oaf, one who would happily eat a curry in the middle of a show.

I had joined Yes in 1971. I was a classically trained musician who had worked with numerous artists as a session musician. I played on David Bowie's Life On Mars, Cat Stevens's Morning Has Broken and even on some Des O'Connor records, though I kept that quiet.

Yes was already well established as 'progressive rock' band and had a reputation for lengthy numbers, complex music and cerebral lyrics.
It wasn't the sort of outfit that attracted groupies: our fans were more likely to throw synthesizer manuals on stage than knickers.
The other four members of the band - guitarist Steve Howe, singer Jon Anderson, bassist Chris Squire and drummer Alan White - were all technically gifted musicians and, without being immodest, we were a huge band with massive record sales. Our live shows were sellouts and very ambitious.

Indeed, sometimes I needed directions just to get to my keyboards.
'Take a left here, Rick, climb over that giant mushroom, past the spaceship and just behind, beyond that cloud, are your keyboards.'

There are people who think the film This Is Spinal Tap is simply a very funny 'mockumentary'. Well, with Yes we lived it.

Take the hilarious scene in the film in which the bass player is trapped in a giant pod - that actually happened to Alan one night.

It also occurred during the Tales From Topographic Oceans album tour. That was not my favourite Yes album and I said so at the time. Maturely, I renamed it Tales From Toby's Graphic Go-Kart.
The grandiose elements of Yes were spiralling out of all control and the stage set was unbelievable. It had been designed by Roger Dean, who had done the album cover, and reflected the record's artwork.
The drum kit was inside a giant seashell, which would open after the show started, revealing Alan doing his stuff. However, one night when the curtain went up the gearing jammed and he was trapped inside.

The problem was, it was a sealed unit, so Alan quickly began running out of air.

As this was live on stage in front of thousands of people, Alan, the consummate professional, continued playing. Meanwhile the roadies began trying to smash the pod open, staying out of the line of sight of the crowd so no one noticed.
Before long, they had to start pumping oxygen in until eventually, somehow, they prised the wretched thing open with pickaxes.

By now the audience must have noticed the rescue effort because as the pod sprang open a huge cheer went up, and Alan stumbled out gasping for breath.
Of course, back in the Seventies, audiences assumed that whatever happened on the stage was intentional.

In my previous band, the Strawbs, I'd had a Hammond organ on wheels. When we were playing the last number of the night I would push this thing across the stage and race after it while playing it.

One evening I pushed a bit too hard and the Hammond went hurtling towards the edge of the stage. I dived on top of it to try to slow it down but organ and organist crashed over the edge. The Hammond was smashed to smithereens and I was cut to ribbons.

I was mopping the blood from my face when a journalist came over. 'Great show, Rick,' he said, 'but how can you afford to wreck a Hammond every night?'

There was another occasion, playing with Yes in Toronto, when one of my synthesizers, a Minimoog, broke down.

By chance, Dr Robert Moog, the brilliant electronic music pioneer and inventor of the Minimoog, was at the gig. During the interval, when the curtain was down, Bob said: 'I think I know what the problem is - do you want me to go out and take a look?'

'That would be great, if you don't mind,' I said. 'You know we're back on in about ten minutes, right?'

'That's fine,' he said. When we got the call to go back on stage, I navigated my way over to the keyboards and Bob was still there, surrounded by the innards of a Minimoog. He had dismantled it.
'Bob, Bob, we're about to start,' I hissed, but he was completely distracted. 'Yes, I think I know what the problem is,' he said prodding a circuit board.

The curtain went up and Yes had suddenly acquired a sixth member who was messing about with a complicated piece of electronic wizardry in the middle of the stage, completely oblivious to the audience of 20,000 punters, all of whom appeared to accept this as perfectly normal.

At the end of the show, at which time Bob was still happily tinkering with the synth, I introduced him to the audience who gave him a standing ovation. Bob looked up and said: 'Oh, are you ready to start now?'

When Yes started to perform 'in the round' - where a circular stage is planted in the middle of the venue with the audience all around the band - getting to our instruments was suddenly a major headache.

I think it was Jon who came up with a solution. 'We need a tunnel, then we can all get to the stage in one piece and quickly,' he said.
'We can't dig a tunnel under the floor of every venue, Jon,' I said.
'No, Rick, an overground tunnel. It will look fantastic.'
We had this immense tunnel built out of what appeared to be very strong rice paper. It looked like the world's biggest Chinese lantern. Using the finest engineering science known to man, we based it on the Slinky, those toys that flip down stairs.

The tunnel folded in on itself for shipping and opened up for the show. We ran lights through the inside and it looked absolutely brilliant. As the music started to play, the band members would march through the tunnel and our silhouettes would alert the audience to our presence, raising the tension even more.

The crew, meanwhile, hated it. The paper would rip, the wooden frames would split, it never folded properly, it took too long to work and it was almost impossible to cart around. They made their feelings known - and we completely ignored them.

The very next show they took their revenge. The music duly started and we all strode excitedly along inside the illuminated tunnel, only half noticing that the sound of the audience was getting further and further away.
Finally we came to a halt by a large green EXIT sign. Unbeknown to us, the crew had redirected the tunnel away from the stage.

Touring with Yes was generally great fun and I got on well with the rest of the guys but we were like chalk and cheese in many respects.

I was unique in the band as a card-carrying Conservative. They were all teetotal, while I could drink for England. And they were all vegetarians - I was an unashamed carnivore.
I have no objection to vegetarians (though I don't understand why, if you don't eat meat, you make tofu look like sausages or burgers) but some of the band were extreme with their vegetarianism.
For a couple of them, having a meal consisting entirely of vegetables was not enough - they had to know the farming methods used in their production, the name of the guy who planted them and, ideally, the species and health of the birds whose droppings had enriched the organic soil.
Well, that might be possible these days in a wholefood specialist shop, but in a Holiday Inn coffee shop in the American Deep South in the early Seventies? Some of the band were going without food for days and it was becoming impossible. So we decided to take a chef on the road.

I pointed out that I did not want to spend every night of the tour munching on a single lettuce leaf washed on the banks of the Nile by spiritually enlightened shamans. The band agreed that the chef could cook separate meat-crammed meals for me.

On the first Saturday, he said: 'Rick, do you fancy a nice roast tomorrow?' 'Bloody hell, do I fancy a roast? Absolutely,' I replied.
We played the Sunday show and, back at the hotel, all sat down to eat. The chef brought out the rest of the band's food first: some chives, a carrot or two and some celery sticks. They all tucked in, saying, rather unconvincingly, that the meal was delicious.

Then the chef returned with an enormous silver platter on which sat a magnificent golden-brown 22lb turkey, sausages wrapped in bacon, potatoes and parsnips.
The veggies around the table stopped eating, their forks suspended in mid-air. The chef put the roast in front of me and started serving it up - the aroma was incredible.
Then someone said: 'Er, could I try some roasted potatoes or parsnips, please?'
'Sorry, chaps, cooked in goose fat,' replied the chef.

I piled my plate high and got stuck in. With the exception of guitarist Steve, who was the most committed of the veggies, everyone watched my every mouthful. After they had finished their meals, a mass exodus ensued, clearly to avoid being around this delightful roast for too long.
A few minutes later, the door opened. It was Alan, our drummer. 'All right, Rick. I was thinking, I know I'm veggie and all that but to be honest I do eat the occasional piece of white meat. Any chance I could try some of the turkey?'
'Of course, help yourself,' I said. 'Thanks, but I'll take it back to my room, if that's OK.' He hastily put some of the turkey and trimmings on a plate and scurried off.
Five minutes later, Jon walked in. 'Rick. I was thinking, I do have the odd bit of chicken now and then, so I was wondering...'
He was followed by Chris. 'Be my guest,' I pre-empted.
I turned to the chef who was grinning widely. 'Probably best if you don't mention this, my friend...'

It was after the now infamous vindaloo incident at Manchester Free Trade Hall that I started to wonder about my future with the band. When the most enjoyable part of a live performance is the curry that you eat in the middle of it, you know that it's time to start thinking about moving on.
Due to circumstances and the musical direction in which we were heading, there was increasingly less and less I could put in and it was becoming very unrewarding.

After we'd finished the Tales From Topographic Oceans tour, we were due to start rehearsing new material on May 18, 1975 - I know the date because it was my birthday.

I'd gone down to my farmhouse in Devon to clear my head. It was a very weird day. First, I got a phone call from the Yes management asking why I wasn't at rehearsals.

'I told you, that's it, I'm off,' I said. 'I don't want to do this free-form jazz, I can't contribute anything to it, it's not me and I don't think it's Yes.'

They tried to talk me into rehearsing but my mind was made up. Five minutes later the phone rang and it was Terry O'Neil from A&M Records in London.
I had recorded Journey To The Centre Of The Earth as a solo project with the label. Terry sounded ecstatic.

'Rick, Journey has just gone to No1 in the album charts!' he cried.

It was time to move on for good.

© 2008 Rick Wakeman and Martin Roach.
Adapted from Grumpy Old Rock Star, by Rick Wakeman.

nickn, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:23 (two years ago)

amazing, now I actually kind of like this guy?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:35 (two years ago)

this has been his obnoxious shtick for decades, it's even worse than his actual playing

j/k that's not possible obviously

mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:39 (two years ago)

Wakeman's stories are hilarious but yea let's not pretend this dude didn't do King Arthur on Ice and Journey to the Centre of the Earth. not to mention the capes he wore onstage. he was probably more fun to party with sure but he was just as pretentious and weird as the rest of them. if Yes had a "normal" member in those days it was probably Alan White. he seemed to be the one guy everyone got on with.

frogbs, Thursday, 7 December 2023 00:07 (two years ago)

Thank the heavens for pretentious and weird musicians.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 7 December 2023 00:45 (two years ago)

not surprised that the other members of Yes were opportunivores

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 7 December 2023 00:53 (two years ago)

Steve held out!

nickn, Thursday, 7 December 2023 02:13 (two years ago)

there's a super deluxe of the Yes Album out now (feels like this album gets reissued every time I blink); remaster of the original mix+steven wilson mix again, a mono fold down which I guess was a radio promo at the time (pointless), but there are some live things from two 1973 sets which are cool and maybe haven't been out before, dunno, I honestly can't keep track. There's also a 2x45rpm pressing coming out as part of that Atlantic celebration (I don't fuck around with LPs at 45, I do not have enough time to get up and flip sides every two songs)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 December 2023 03:59 (two years ago)

I do not have enough time to get up and flip sides every two songs

buddy this is the Yes thread

frogbs, Thursday, 7 December 2023 04:14 (two years ago)

yeah but I'm not talking about 20 minute songs, I'm talking about the Yes Album. They're also going to split Close to the Edge (the song) in half and put half on side one and the other half of the song on side 2. That is dumb.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 December 2023 04:17 (two years ago)

what part of I get up I get down do you not understand

frogbs, Thursday, 7 December 2023 04:18 (two years ago)

Even Siberia goes through the motions
Hold out and hold up and flip and place down again (bluetail, tailfly)

The midnight special youtube channel has uploaded some clips of Flash recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz_yMb1YKco

Very interesting, I really like the first minute or so and clearly Peter Banks brought something to the table that was...no longer at the table afterwards, would have been neat if he had rejoined the fold at some point

Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 7 December 2023 05:37 (two years ago)

I've never been inspired to listen to a Flash album, but I don't hear Banks doing anything in the video that Howe couldn't have done just as well. The YouTube comments seems to be divided as to who was emulating whom.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 December 2023 19:54 (two years ago)

yeah I think on balance Howe is the stronger player/writer for sure, don't remember him ever doing Banks' weird volume swell thing but I'm sure he was fully capable

still I like a lot of what he got up to on stuff like Survival and Astral Traveller, wikipedia says he attempted to recruit Kaye and Wakeman and Moraz and ended up just skipping keys altogether lol, the rest of the band seems very competent but the writing just isn't there, also not sold on the vocalist, is no Jon Anderson but who is

Florin Cuchares, Friday, 8 December 2023 06:00 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzrPnMGM-_o

MaresNest, Monday, 1 January 2024 12:18 (two years ago)

Nice!

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 January 2024 14:12 (two years ago)

I have come around on Mirror to the Sky and most of the Quest; I do not want to like these albums but when I listen to them I can't help myself, they are pretty good, definitely a huge step up from Heaven and Earth and also better in general than those Keys to Ascension albums or the Ladder.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 1 January 2024 16:49 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

touching of the healing heart

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:49 (two years ago)

oops i bumped the RONG thread - i must make things right

this lineup was called No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HWo-YB94LQ

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 18 January 2024 23:05 (two years ago)

music is a shout of foregone conclusions

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2024 23:08 (two years ago)

I love Steve Howe, but it's hard to understand what he was thinking with this

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 18 January 2024 23:29 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

if we were flowers we would worship the sun, so why not now?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:09 (two years ago)

some weird trivia I just found out, Jon Davison is married to Emily Lodge, who is the daughter of John Lodge - "Emily's Song" by the Moody Blues is about her. could this be progressive rock's new power couple?

frogbs, Monday, 12 February 2024 14:41 (two years ago)

I am heartened by the few reaction Youtubes of grown-ups silently blubbing to the Todmobile/Jon Anderson live version of Awaken, I thought it was just me.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 24 February 2024 12:44 (two years ago)

given how beyond judgmental music appreciation has gotten it's hard to imagine something like "awaken" getting recorded in the first place

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:32 (two years ago)

"Going For The One" totally rules, why did I ever sell this? I remember an old old friend trying to get me into this record when we were kids in 1977, I was ten and had no idea what to make of it. he called it "hard rock" lol.

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 3 March 2024 22:09 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0dS7JYurPY

had never seen this before, pretty cool, but please skip to 2:20 to witness Jon Anderson as a chess piece asking to be moved to any black square

Florin Cuchares, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 09:28 (two years ago)

of all the guys you'd think would know the rules of chess

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 14:50 (two years ago)

This is awesome!

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:32 (two years ago)

of all the guys you'd think would know the rules of chess

lol so apparently jon anderson is a white bishop, except there's already a white bishop on a black square. and then after jon moves, black gets skipped and has its knight taken. the white queen should now be taken by the black bishop, but gets yet another turn to scoot

oh wait, that black knight wasn't taken, just like . . . sent away for a bit. now it's back, and moving like a bishop

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 March 2024 01:50 (two years ago)

very unorthodox strategy, especially the rare Hammond Rush Attack

yessed out and chessed out #onethread

also tony kaye should have kept the beard

Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 7 March 2024 02:55 (two years ago)

It's all a travesty, the song's about a game of checkers!

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 March 2024 04:01 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

here's a fun prog DJ moment - there's a bit in Fermented Hours by Wobbler which imitates the big church organ middle section in Close to the Edge. I stitched em together and some old guy at the bar said "oh NOW we're talkin"

frogbs, Saturday, 23 March 2024 03:33 (one year ago)

Old guy at the bar otm

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 23 March 2024 03:56 (one year ago)

The 1994 album Talk, out of print forever because it was on an indie label that went out of business basically the week the record was released, is being reissued soon, both on its own and as a 4CD box also containing a disc of outtakes and a complete live concert from 1994.

I ranked it pretty high (#12 out of 33) when I reviewed all their albums for Stereogum in 2015; here's what I said:

The final album by the version of Yes that made 90125, Big Generator, and contributed to Union, Talk is actually a better-than-decent melodic rock record for much of its running time. Guitarist Trevor Rabin unplugs some of his pedals and sounds more like Steve Howe than he ever has; the songs are straightforward, but don't seem as cravenly aimed at the radio as they were on Union. Indeed, this was the record on which Jon Anderson and Trevor Rabin finally started to work well together, each man's vision for the group fitting together with the other's. In some ways, the album recalls Rush's Counterparts -- a veteran band exploring modern ideas, in a somewhat stripped-down way, without losing their grip on their own identities. The final track, "The Endless Dream," is where Talk becomes essential listening for serious Yes fans, though. It runs nearly 16 minutes, and perfectly bridges the gap between their 1970s glory years and their poppier work of the '80s and '90s. It's got the epic sweep and meditative beauty of Close To The Edge, with occasional outbursts of high-tech energy and some atmospheric yet aggressive guitar from Rabin.

This was the first Yes album not to appear on a major label -- after two decades with Atco, they shifted to Arista for Union, but Talk was released on the comparatively tiny Victory Music imprint, which went bankrupt soon after, sending it out of print. So it's kind of the "forgotten" Yes album. Too bad, since it's their best 1990s release.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:58 (one year ago)

that's cool, definitely one I think I need to revisit - my recollection is that it sounds like Yes with Trevor Rabin, as opposed to 90125 and Big Generator which are more like Trevor Rabin with Yes. I do remember the songs being good but mostly too long. But I still listen to "Where Will You Be?" a lot, its such a pretty song, exactly what I hoped Jon's solo records would sound like (and maybe they do, I only really know Olias). interested in the live stuff as well, I actually have no clue what this version of the band sounded like live

also nice it's coming out on vinyl, for some reason copies of this are very expensive, must not have been a lot pressed. original edition was a single LP which is pretty ambitious for a 55 minute album. might actually be the only Yes studio album that's difficult to get on wax. I thought Union might be too but it's not really. though it was also originally pressed as a single LP and this one's 60 minutes. that's getting into Todd Rundgren territory. maybe they didn't think anyone would actually listen to it.

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2024 22:07 (one year ago)

this is a bewildering release to me, I can't imagine there is much if any demand for it beyond the vinyl. But I hate this album, I think this and Open Your Eyes are their absolute nadir (until Heaven and Earth); some of this is circumstantial, as I first heard it while working a contract job for 3 months for these two guys who were absolute assholes with shit music taste, and one of them would play this album first thing in the morning in our basically empty office at ear-splitting volume.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:15 (one year ago)

I don't know if there's demand for anything anymore, but considering how long it's been out of print, I'm sure there's a subset of Yes fans who'll be thrilled to own a copy. I listened to it again yesterday and my original opinion holds up — I'm into it. Had it been force-fed to me at the time, I could easily see turning against it, though.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:21 (one year ago)

Never heard this one. I bet True Yes Fans took one look at the new logo and fainted.
I wonder if this means that Tin Machine II, also a victim of Victory Music, will return sometime soon.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:33 (one year ago)

tin machine 2 got a vinyl reissue a few years back somehow.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:50 (one year ago)

anyway, reading on wiki again about the recording of Talk is kind of a trip as it was tracked to like, Mac SEs or something, with software that was being written at the time. They needed 27 mics to capture the drums and it wound up taking up 34GB of uncompressed space which is something, considering everything was stored on dynatec hard drives which were like, 8 GB and probably cost a trillion dollars. Early digital recording like this sounds like more hassle than it was worth.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:57 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

“So the story goes…”

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:35 (one year ago)

listens to leave it

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:40 (one year ago)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71B9r8ZqkbL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

im reading this book and its so weird and nerdy i kind of love it - but album still sucks

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 07:15 (one year ago)

Kevin Mulryne's YES podcasts are great, nerdy fun to listen to.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 09:19 (one year ago)

I've come around to a lot of Tormato, but the album sounds fucking awful.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:27 (one year ago)

sucks bcz oliver's dad was very reinstated 👎🏽

mark s, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:36 (one year ago)

yes i am still salty abt how moraz was treated lol

mark s, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:37 (one year ago)

Didn’t know about the Mulryne podcast but nearly jumped through the roof seeing that there’s an 8 part episode on Tales From Topographic Oceans which is a top 10 of all time for me — but then whoever starts talking about 15 minutes in about the progression from Close to the Edge to Awaken starts going on and on about how he can’t remember a single note from The Remembering and how awful Steve’s guitar sounds on The Ancient and I barely stopped myself from jumping inside my car stereo and letting him know how wrong he is (close call). For one, I feel like The Remembering is probably the poppiest moment on the album (definitely the most vocal heavy) and Steve’s sliding around on The Ancient is one of the coolest bits on the album (esp in relation to the background music he’s sliding over).

I thought I was about to jump into a bunch of TFTO heads really dissecting the album but they all seem to be of the consensus that sides 1 and 4 are the only necessary parts which makes it surprising that this is the first Yes album they decided to tackle in depth.

Slim is an Alien, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:51 (one year ago)

interested in the Tormato book though lol @ "You'll never hear the album in the same way again!"...do people actually listen to this album often? the condition of the many, many used copies that come into the local shop suggests they don't. though I admit I actually like the weird-as-shit "Arriving UFO"

yes i am still salty abt how moraz was treated lol

really an all-time weird career, I mean his work on Relayer is great, the Refugee album (which I think he wrote the vast majority of) totally rules, and his first solo album is nice...but idk if anything he did after that is worthwhile, after 1976 he's primarily known as the guy who tried to sue the Moody Blues and probably should've won

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:57 (one year ago)

"You'll never hear the album in the same way again!"

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:18 (one year ago)

the bit on "The Remembering" where Howe revs up and Jon starts singing "Relayer, all the dying cried before you" is one of my favorite moments in the entire Yes catalogue

do agree the music is a bit bare though, one of those things where they decided to make a bunch of longform tunes without having a whole lot of ideas for them, as opposed to the best prog epics which sound like they had too many ideas and things just spiraled out of control into these amazing semi-cohesive pieces

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:26 (one year ago)

To me the “:..and I do feel very well” thing on The Remembering is like the catchiest part of their entire catalog, I don’t even like thinking about it because now I’ll probably be singing it in my head the rest of the day.

I’ve never really understood the prevailing sentiment that the album is padded but I do plan to listen to these other 7 episodes to hopefully at least get a sense of what parts people consider those to be (more specifically than sides 2 & 3 as a whole).

Slim is an Alien, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:29 (one year ago)

moraz claims he wrote like half of going for the one also (which is trufax why it’s good not bad)

meanwhile wakeman on topographic: " 'I don't want to do this free-form jazz" lol why not back to practicing yr scales, fatfinger boy, then you don't fuck them up so often

free-form jazz, what a fkn useless dullard you are rick

mark s, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:01 (one year ago)

mark s hatred for Wakeman is the fire that keeps this thread alive

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:34 (one year ago)

Is anyone prepared to mount a defence of Rick Wakeman's solo career? I'm not, but maybe there's someone in here who will.

the scouse that roared (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:47 (one year ago)

It was as successful as Yes' and I think even outsold then at one point

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:56 (one year ago)

I like Six Wives and thought Criminal Record was quite good (plus, it's kind of a successful triple entendre, if you believe Wakeman should've gone to jail for making it), the other solo albums I have of his are pretty boring, though I'm curious what some of the later ones sound like

not really sure how to reconcile Wakeman's reputation as the one beer-drinking, meat-eating member of the band with whom you could actually hang out with and have a good time with the fact that he did all this King Arthur on Ice shit

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:58 (one year ago)

maybe cuz he hung out and recorded with bowie and sabbath? the only ones out of the 10000 dudes who've played in this band as rock star social as wakeman are buford (it's astonishing the same guy drummed for yes, crimson, and genesis!), alan "plastic one band" white, and trevor horn

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:59 (one year ago)

I vaguely recall reading an interview with the producer of Union where he was like "They were constantly bickering and couldn't physically be in the same room as each other and it got to the point where I had to write most of the music myself. I was a big Yes fan and now hated their guts. Alan White was cool though."

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:04 (one year ago)

(it's astonishing the same guy drummed for yes, crimson, and genesis!)

And Gong, though nothing was ever released officially (there might be live boots).

nickn, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:08 (one year ago)

Wakeman is all-time you philistines however most of his solo stuff is dreck. I do love Henry VIII and enjoy Criminal Record but his choice in singers is awful. That Ashley-whatever guy bellowing on those early joints...jeezuz.

I like Moraz and Bruford's "Flags" from '85 or something but someone needed to keep Pat away from the pitch bend controller during the Yes days.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:32 (one year ago)

xpost to Slim - there's one guy on that podcast who has cloth ears. I think he's Canadian? Says some really dopey stuff.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:34 (one year ago)

Not that being Canadian has anything to do with his listening skills.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:35 (one year ago)

Didnwe ever discuss Progeny on here? Can’t remember. Cuz am listening straight through as of a half hour ago and it’s supreeeeme yessing out material.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:01 (one year ago)

I love it. Yes as kick-ass rock band. The relative rawness of the recordings — there are sound dropouts, a few flubs here and there — makes the performances all the more impressive.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:08 (one year ago)

wait, pat smear is listed "project assistance"!

did he tape one of the shows as a child?

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:29 (one year ago)

listed in wikipedia i mean, i know he's a steve howe fan but he was like 12 when this was recorded

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:30 (one year ago)

Since so many vids on the thread are no longer available here's one of my selfish faves. It was the only YES show I ever attended and is still one of theeee greates shows I've ever experienced. Well worth sitting through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez07S8hoE3g

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:32 (one year ago)

oops sorry looks like it can't be posted here. Search "Yes new york city 2004"

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:33 (one year ago)

Youtube, that is.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:37 (one year ago)

Clicking on the Watch on yt link gets me there.

nickn, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:44 (one year ago)

unperson OTM

progeny is yessongs raw and exponentiated. i wish YES got more love not least since maybe there'd be a never-ending grateful dead-esque dick's picks bootleg bonanza. they may not have improv-ed "dark star"-style but i could listen to dozens of "starship trooper"s when they were square in their prime

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:31 (one year ago)

starship pooper

calstars, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:34 (one year ago)

party trooper

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:38 (one year ago)

i saw one of the progeny shows! my second concert ever -- nassau coliseum '72. my dad drove us. i think lindisfarne opened but i have no recollection of them whatsoever. yes were cool as hell.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 19 April 2024 22:03 (one year ago)

That Nassau show is amazing — the longest version of "Yours is No Disgrace" on the whole box.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 19 April 2024 22:20 (one year ago)

At the risk of sounding like the guy who loves everything...

The hate for Tormato completely baffles me, I think it's a really fun album and I have great memories of it, I actually have more overall fondness for it than some of their albums with better highlight tracks.

Wakeman: I really like or love Six Wives, Journey To The Centre, King Arthur, No Earthly Connection, White Rock, Liztomania. That's as far as I've got and I'm ready for much more. I think he he odd choices in singers who fit a bit awkwardly but I still mostly enjoy them. There's bits on King Arthur which really blown me away and I'd love to hear anyone else who got similar effects (the super fast bits and the swirly bits) because I've never heard the like. If I had to recommend one I'd say No Earthly Connection.

Patrick Moraz's debut album is so much better than the funny curiosity I had heard it was, it's really incredible and eclectic. Really looking forward to hearing more of his solo albums, I'm so happy Cherry Red/Esoteric has several albums of his remastered. Hope to buy them all soon.

I feel like there's so many of the Yes solo albums which are second only to the very best Yes albums. I wish more people would check out Animation by Jon Anderson.

...and I hope you all remember I'm rarely this enthusiastic about many things, I really love all this music and it's completely deserving.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2024 23:42 (one year ago)

https://www.cherryred.co.uk/patrick-moraz-amp-syrinx-coexistence-remastered-cd-edition

nice to see the tradition on men's asses on prog covers was continued

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2024 23:55 (one year ago)

holy shit how have I never heard of that, huge John Mills-Cockell fan here

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 19 April 2024 23:58 (one year ago)

RAG I think you'll enjoy "Criminal Record".

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 20 April 2024 09:58 (one year ago)

And Gong, though nothing was ever released officially (there might be live boots).

― nickn

there are boots... he also played for national health! the thing is he did have a very distinctive style, i kinda understand why fripp came and and was like "ok you can be in the band again but NO CYMBALS got it?"

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 April 2024 14:53 (one year ago)

When I ask myself,
“how much yes is too much yes?”
I see that boxed set and think
“that’s too much yes.”

calstars, Saturday, 20 April 2024 18:46 (one year ago)

When it first came out I remember joking that since they'd already done Yessongs and Yesshows, this one should just be called Yessss.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 20 April 2024 18:50 (one year ago)

haha

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 19:19 (one year ago)

The hate for Tormato completely baffles me

it sounds like it was mastered on a coffee filter

I think the problems with it (aside from jon anderson's kid yammering about circuses) are almost all sonic and not related to the quality of the songs themselves. there was some mess up regarding dolby and I think that really impacted it. apparently the multis are missing so without some kind of 'get back' attempt at demixing it that's not going to ever be fixed (and no one is going to put that money forward for this album) unless they show up

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:30 (one year ago)

never knew that! thx

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:50 (one year ago)

I have sometimes wondered why I think GFTO and Yesshows both rule but I never clicked with Tormato, this may explain it

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:51 (one year ago)

and I can also understand why someone loves it b/c of the weird sound

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:52 (one year ago)

"records that are accidentally sui generis, for better or worse" RFD

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 April 2024 23:53 (one year ago)

Haven’t heard this tomato version that is lately spoken of

calstars, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:03 (one year ago)

And I probably won’t, there’s been too much “yes” irl recently

calstars, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:18 (one year ago)

I've only ever had the remaster and I never really noticed a problem with its sound.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:46 (one year ago)

When I ask myself,
“how much yes is too much yes?”
I see that boxed set and think
“that’s too much yes.”

But if you love YES this boxset is not nearly enough. Seriously, though, it's a great listen.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 21 April 2024 13:05 (one year ago)

goldilocks option: thus entire box set except cut out all the wakeman solo spots = JUST RIGHT

mark s, Sunday, 21 April 2024 13:09 (one year ago)

the dolby issue: according to brian kehew (an actual genius) eddie offord recorded the original tormato sessions in dolby-A, they fired him and overdubbed the rest not in dolby-A cuz they are dumb. when brian went the tapes later on he knew eddie liked to record in dolby A and went to playback the tapes and they sounded WAY BETTER except for the over dubs which still sounded like shit. so there's no saving the sessions.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:53 (one year ago)

huh, maybe that explains it, I always thought Tormato sounded weird but could never articulate why. I knew Wakeman's Birotron had something to do with it (is this the only album that actually uses it?) but like what I got a vinyl copy and played it on a good system I remember thinking I needed a new stylus because something was just off about it. it's got such a narrow soundstage, everything is kind of in a line...when Wakeman is playing you can't really hear anything else, ditto for a lot of Anderson's vocals, while Howe and White just kinda languish in the background surrounded by pillows. I can't really remember a single Howe guitar line on the album, outside of the more straightforward rock n' roll ones.

but also the songs aren't quite as good as they were, I mean yeah it's kinda interesting to hear them try disco and power pop but it's not really their strong suit, also they don't really have any of the cool jam sections that Yes excelled at. they come close sometimes but you can tell "no epics" was sort of their M.O. here. it does have some tracks I like though - the opening and closing track are both great, and I'll defend "Arriving UFO" just on the grounds that its really odd, I just wish they had the courage to get even weirder with it

frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:28 (one year ago)

there's a demo of the Birotron here, if you're interested. apparently Wakeman financed the development of it and there were only ever 2 working units.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URR7l-uI6JA

I recommend reading the description, its pretty insane:

Life is short. The Birotron is in danger of disappearing and both positive vibes and hard work are now required to save it. 'Trolls' harassing anyone, 'internet beggars' demanding free sounds, 'sound poachers/criminals' sampling this video to exploit it, and pushers of any political agendas will be:
a) Permanently banned from this page / other related Birotron pages.
b) Permanently blacklisted from buying, owning or using these sounds if and when they become available commercially.
c) Prosecuted for any crimes or offenses committed in relation to the above. (This page is being monitored by a Private Investigation Agency 24/7)
Protecting this instrument, and all of you visiting here deeply matters to us, especially when this is your only source for it.

I think it's cool people are trying to 'restore' the sound of the thing, but it kinda sounds shitty doesn't it? my understanding with the mellotron is the machine itself is pretty faulty and doesn't really reproduce the sound of the tapes well but it distorts it in a way that gives it this ethereal and mystical quality. that's a pretty tricky thing to reproduce. the Birotron just sounds cheap to me.

frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 17:42 (one year ago)

leon theremin meet robert moog meet dave biro (actual name)

mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:04 (one year ago)

The version of "Days" on Tormato bonus tracks is really lovely, I prefer it to the version that ended up on Song Of Seven, it's just vocals and works really well

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:15 (one year ago)

I could not take it oh so seriously really
When you called and said you'd seen a UFO

- noted skeptic and debunker Jon Anderson

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:20 (one year ago)

Don't know Borstlap but nice to have these collections
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/bruford-borstlap-sheer-reckless-abandon-3cd1dvd-edition
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/patrick-moraz-bill-bruford-temples-of-joy-3cd-edition

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:24 (one year ago)

https://shop.spotify.com/en/artist/7AC976RDJzL2asmZuz7qil/product/yes-incense

calstars, Monday, 22 April 2024 22:46 (one year ago)

Along with several other Ilxors, I was born during the brief period known as the Gerald Ford era, meaning that nearly all of my memories of that decade are of the "Long '70s" variety that ran through '83 (wood-panel basements and weird swirly lights as room decor, leaded gas, classic rock's last stand on MTV before the Prince/Lauper/MJ era, malls with massive plants near the Miller's Outpost, you get the idea). Tormato, especially "On The Silent Wings of Freedom" (which might be the most 'Yes' song title ever), makes me 'remember' the late-70s, as if they are teleporting me to an era where I get to experience borrowed nostalgia, whether I actually experienced it or not.

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:32 (one year ago)

Joni Mitchell played the Birotron on one of her best late songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOfJ7S9f2LM

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:35 (one year ago)

That's a misnomer - the actual credit on Night Ride Home is "Billatron", which is a keyboard sample of the guitarist Bill Dillon.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 01:00 (one year ago)

The bonus tracks on Tormato show that they still had a lot of ideas, but no-one was capitulating to fit those ideas together. Anderson wants to get soft, Howe wants to get hard, Bootsy Squire's Mutron pedal whose sound doesn't fit in with what anyone else is doing, and Wakeman's assortment of shrill keyboards covering everything like a tinsel explosion. I like most of the record in spite of its flaws.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 01:07 (one year ago)

Waksman’s baroque solo on the Birotron on Don’t Kill the Whale rules so hard.

timellison, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:48 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

lmao what is this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9FZncV3JKQ

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 14:04 (one year ago)

oh my god, cover art of the year

https://talkshop.live/product/ns2KJur9I7WN/jon-anderson-true-cd-autographed

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 14:16 (one year ago)

Go Jon

calstars, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 14:31 (one year ago)

someone made an entire AI-generated Yes album (not my dropbox, but it was pulled off YouTube)

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/tkmxohq87hrfrtagwi8au/AKw0cOzBz6eZk9FsVEBPTsQ?dl=0&e=1&preview=To+The+Future++-+Yes.mp4&rlkey=7x83koqr5pobqvdxo2ahufkgm

it does sound incredibly shitty but I find it kinda impressive anyway. maybe there was a ton of specific prompting but it's neat how many individual pieces of their sound it gets right. on the other hand it really sucks, there's not a single memorable part here, and it kind of makes me feel like I'm going crazy

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 14:07 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahKn84JaGiw

Maresn3st, Friday, 31 May 2024 18:31 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4R5k8l6KOw

Maresn3st, Friday, 31 May 2024 18:37 (one year ago)

that's really good! better than anything out of this current Yes incarnation

frogbs, Friday, 31 May 2024 18:57 (one year ago)

can one of you please find the post where an ilxor saw Anderson at a gear show and watched him burst into song? anyone remember that? I can paraphrase more if needed

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 31 May 2024 19:00 (one year ago)

whoa! those songs sound really promising -- best YES since fly from here and jon music since the ladder?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 31 May 2024 19:21 (one year ago)

There was another song played but it was a kinda limp sounding ballad, maybe it'll be better on the rekkid

Maresn3st, Friday, 31 May 2024 19:27 (one year ago)

"you don't understand, I want to make the microphone SIIIIIIIIIIINNNNGGG" was the gist of the post, as "some elfin-looking guy" interrogated a microphone salesperson

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 31 May 2024 19:28 (one year ago)

yeah hoping the whole album is like those two songs - what I really wanted is for the Band Geeks to be involved, because Jon on his own is fine but when he pairs up with talented prog dudes it's already great. even Roine Stolt (who I'm generally not a huge fan of) made a pretty great LP with him.

frogbs, Friday, 31 May 2024 19:33 (one year ago)

That Roine Stolt record (Invention of Knowledge, from 2016) is great, but I've been afraid to check out anything else he's been involved with.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 31 May 2024 19:51 (one year ago)

Kaipa is not all golden but totally worth diving into if you have time to kill, especially the original '70s run. let's say Flower Kings though depends on how much patience you have for the vocals on Allan Holdsworth solo albums. Transatlantic is even more so about tolerance for Neal Morse's prog/pop-punk nasal vocals

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 31 May 2024 20:28 (one year ago)

every Flower Kings record has like 2-5 minutes of stuff I really like but overall they're just boring. maybe one day they'll click with me. I feel like you can only really have room for one weirdly-prolific prog revival band in your life. for me it used to be Glass Hammer but now it's The Tangent.

frogbs, Friday, 31 May 2024 20:32 (one year ago)

all of that stuff glass hammer, tangent, transatlantic, flower kings, is so incredibly dull and boring to me. I just can't listen to any of it. Or I can, it just makes zero impression when it's over.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 31 May 2024 21:15 (one year ago)

I liked The Tangent's In Earnest but that's the only song of theirs that's stuck with me

sawdust lagoon, Friday, 31 May 2024 21:46 (one year ago)

that's def true of the latter two in my view

Glass Hammer are so over the top sometimes that I can't help but dig them, also I think the Jon Davison albums really do sound like something Yes could've cranked out post-GFTO. those aren't necessarily my favorite though. I haven't really liked their recent ones though. also hard to deal with overtly religious bands these days

The Tangent definitely have their dull spots and every album they do is way too long but they always grow on me. if nothing else Andy Tillison is probably the one prog dude who should be allowed to write political lyrics.

frogbs, Friday, 31 May 2024 21:51 (one year ago)

can one of you please find the post where an ilxor saw Anderson at a gear show and watched him burst into song? anyone remember that? I can paraphrase more if needed

― I painted my teeth (sleeve)

Drew posted this:
here's [Wobbly's] story of spotting Jon Anderson at NAMM

at a booth that sells vocoder software there is a man earnestly saying in a silvery, elven speaking voice reminiscent of Glinda the Good Witch "no, no, NO, you don't understand. I want to make my computer-" and here he erupts into a shivery high melodious flutter "s-i-i-iing!" and it's HIM and he's singing the word "sing" in THAT Yes voice.

jvc, Saturday, 1 June 2024 14:08 (one year ago)

THANK YOU

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:21 (one year ago)

This AI generated "Yes" album is pretty fun.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:34 (one year ago)

I take that back. It's awful sludge. Scary. too.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:47 (one year ago)

lol my exact reaction, after 2 or 3 minutes it started making me uncomfortable but I listened to the whole album anyway just to see if any part of it would stick with me. nothing really did except for that weird Sega Genesis style bass noise

frogbs, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:44 (one year ago)

I love Squire's weird clipped accent he sings in on the first section, I wonder what that was all about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUI1GHuT1jk

Maresn3st, Friday, 7 June 2024 20:31 (one year ago)

she would coil her said amazement asking only interest could be laid upon the children of her domain

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:03 (one year ago)

Do Yesheads rate "City of Love" from the 90125 album? I'm quite into that tune lately

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:21 (one year ago)

Love that one, my 90125 shame is behind me nowadays

prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:31 (one year ago)

I liked that one back in the day. I don't think I've heard it in 25 years.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:38 (one year ago)

no woman, don't cry

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 20:04 (one year ago)

we'll be waiting for the night
we'll be waiting for the night to come

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 20:07 (one year ago)

hell yeah Jon!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-kFz5ibGA

frogbs, Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:51 (one year ago)

\m/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:56 (one year ago)

Nice! I hope there's a squiggly, 10 min + epic on this new record

Maresn3st, Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:35 (one year ago)

16 minutes actually

frogbs, Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:47 (one year ago)

I am predicting an 'Awaken' style structure, vague eastern influence, goes hard for about 7 mins, long ambient bit with harps and whatnot, then a huge, ascending reprise/end.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:50 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

gotta share a cool moment, about a year ago I went to visit some family including a cousin who is about my age. he's way cooler than I am, kind of a guy's guy but in a good way. anyway I stayed at his house overnight and was surprised to find out that he too has a record collection and mentions one of his "favorite guys" is Jon Anderson! I was like "oh shit you're a Yes fan? what's your favorite song?" I admit I said this in kind of a gatekeepy way but I really wanted to know if he was a bona fide Yeshead or if he just really liked one of their hits. he says immediately "Perpetual Change". my man. turns out he absolutely loves them and has a bunch of their records. which was kinda wild because there were no other prog records in his collection, it was mostly metal and shit like Billy Joel

anyway, for his birthday I gave him a copy of Relayer. signed too. by me :)

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 03:54 (one year ago)

aww

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 04:05 (one year ago)

when i was a kid my buying choices were highly influenced by quantity of music per dollar. which is how i ended up with stuff like the woodstock soundtrack and the song remains the same, etc

i will never deny yessongs, however. i know exactly when, as we move into 'the teacher the preacher', someone will whistle. and when, at the beginning of 'yours is no disgrace' a woman yells 'yay!'

it rules (also it rocks a little harder than most of the studio versions do, which was cool with both teen and elderly me)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 00:53 (one year ago)

it rules (also it rocks a little harder than most of the studio versions do, which was cool with both teen and elderly me)

It was the first record of theirs I bought (the early 2000s 2CD version) and I'm really glad, because it rocked so hard that I was immediately won over. The studio albums might have taken longer to get their hooks in me.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 00:59 (one year ago)

my first as well, the triple LP, probably 1980

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 01:20 (one year ago)

and yah it is undeniable

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 01:20 (one year ago)

highly recommend Progeny then, it's also from the '72 band and the sound quality is better

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:00 (one year ago)

I mean the version of Yours is No Disgrace on there is so insane. I guess the Yessongs one is too but here you can hear Bruford better

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:02 (one year ago)

That's impressive, since Alan White plays the drums on all of Progeny

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:11 (one year ago)

lmao was gonna say "even though he plays a more straightforward basher style here he's really ace at it", I thought he was on some of these tracks oops

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:13 (one year ago)

lol thank you but i don't really need 14 discs of the '72 tour when yessongs is right there

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:23 (one year ago)

there's a condensed version that's about 100 minutes long and just contains the best stuff (as selected by them), sort of an alternate version Yessongs

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:24 (one year ago)

oic

ty

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:28 (one year ago)

gtfo with putting 'the six wives' on that and no 'starship trooper' tho

fucking wakeman

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 04:00 (one year ago)

otm

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 09:50 (one year ago)

I thought he was on some of these tracks oops

I was imagining the new mix featuring Bruford being simultaneously recorded watching TV back home in England

gtfo with putting 'the six wives' on that

Every time Yes releases "Excerpts from 'Six Wives of Henry VIII'" they're actually saving you a half-hour of listening to the rest of Wakeman's album

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 14:13 (one year ago)

they didn't do Starship Trooper during that run of shows, it doesn't appear on any of them

I like the Six Wives excerpt fine, though I must say the QPR show where Pat Moraz plays excerpts from the Refugee album is a lot more fun

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 14:19 (one year ago)

now i wanna hear moraz play six wives, see if it's salvageable as music

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 14:40 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

I was wondering if Jon was ever going to do an autobiography and he talked about writing it recently

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 20:40 (one year ago)

A Jon Anderson memoir sure to be a model of lucidity

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 August 2024 02:13 (one year ago)

found a pretty clean copy of Yessongs recently for $7, now if you'll excuse me

frogbs, Friday, 9 August 2024 00:12 (one year ago)

god they pull off some wild shit at the end of Perpetual Change

frogbs, Friday, 9 August 2024 00:40 (one year ago)

hell yes

mookieproof, Friday, 9 August 2024 00:54 (one year ago)

no wonder the jacket's always beat to shit, the gatefold works pretty much the opposite way you think it will

frogbs, Friday, 9 August 2024 03:08 (one year ago)

omg this is yr first time?!?

I have super vivid memories of this 3LP from the early high school pre-punk years, I own a different copy today sadly but it's still VG+

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 9 August 2024 03:10 (one year ago)

guys i said hell yes

mookieproof, Friday, 9 August 2024 03:12 (one year ago)

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-29-2015/xYEZ80.mp4

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 9 August 2024 03:20 (one year ago)

oops

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 9 August 2024 03:20 (one year ago)

nah I've heard it before but my last copy was pretty crackly, not really much of an issue on this particular LP I guess but really I'll take any excuse to whip it out again.

frogbs, Friday, 9 August 2024 03:22 (one year ago)

the pressings are notoriously bad iirc, length per side issues probably

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 9 August 2024 03:25 (one year ago)

yeah still doesn't sound great, the Progeny shows are sonically better I think and I kinda want to shell out for that triple vinyl but I dunno. that said I like the way Yessongs sounds, it's got kind of a punky energy to it, a little down n' dirty, kinda fun actually in a way their studio albums aint

frogbs, Friday, 9 August 2024 03:33 (one year ago)

The early 2000s Rhino 2CD set sounds fantastic. These days I own this 2009 Japanese CD version, which also sounds incredible. But there's no arguing with you vinyl people, so have at it.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 August 2024 04:09 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBrgCUBAHcg

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 18 August 2024 20:30 (one year ago)

I like how murky yessongs is, it sounds like you’re really in the midst of a filthy battle or just a pit of unwashed rock fans

brimstead, Sunday, 18 August 2024 21:49 (one year ago)

I've been into the studio tracks from Keys to Ascension lately (or rather, just keystudio). Not sure why these mostly failed to make an impression on me until recently but they're very good, certainly worthy of a better-packaged reissue

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 18 August 2024 23:19 (one year ago)

the way they packaged those made it seem like they didn't have a lot of faith in the new material

but yeah it's prob worth a re-listen, I remember "That, That Is" sounding a lot like classic Yes in spots

frogbs, Monday, 19 August 2024 01:52 (one year ago)

this new jon anderson album is amazing. go band geeks \m/

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 August 2024 15:23 (one year ago)

my store didn't get a copy in yet so i'm just gonna wait, reviews seem to be very positive so far

in the meantime I'm gonna throw on GFTO and marvel at how great Awaken is

frogbs, Monday, 26 August 2024 03:07 (one year ago)

YES on the studio tracks on Keys!

timellison, Monday, 26 August 2024 03:19 (one year ago)

I was listening to those last year and feeling the impulse to buy compact discs. There's one that's just those tracks called Keystudio.

timellison, Monday, 26 August 2024 03:26 (one year ago)

"9 copies from $31.42" - Boo

timellison, Monday, 26 August 2024 03:27 (one year ago)

yeah that release was always scarce, I don't think I've ever actually seen a copy (unlike the regular releases, the first of which used to fill the used bins)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 26 August 2024 04:33 (one year ago)

i just want to make sure going forward that this is the official jon anderson thread.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 26 August 2024 05:19 (one year ago)

well...now is the time. lets see what you got Jon

frogbs, Monday, 2 September 2024 03:04 (one year ago)

alright it's pretty good. I thought all the "it's the best Yes album since whatever" talk was kinda lazy, but nah. that's exactly what this album is trying to sound like. Rickenbacker, Hammond, a lot of Howe-style guitar, plus some pretty direct Yes references both musically and lyrically. kind of bitchy when you think about it like the whole point seems he's trying to show the current Yes how it's done. if this was the final Yes album I think it would be considered a major triumph. I know it sounds like damning with faint praise but this is what I was hoping the AWBH album would be

frogbs, Monday, 2 September 2024 04:01 (one year ago)

This is really good, superior to the last two Yes albums (which I mostly like despite myself but they are fairly boring), more interesting than anything he’s done solo in a very long time.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 8 September 2024 01:37 (one year ago)

did trevor horn really start this thread though

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 8 September 2024 02:00 (one year ago)

Add me to the True Is Good Not Bad list, although you wouldn’t guess it from his daughter’s artwork!

mike t-diva, Sunday, 8 September 2024 17:14 (one year ago)

really nothing about the cover is promising at all, "The Band Geeks" is a dumb band name, True a totally forgettable album title, and like, all that lens flare...Photoshop doesn't even have that anymore

frogbs, Monday, 9 September 2024 02:25 (one year ago)

Alright, dammit, you guys convinced me to check it out. The stupid band name and cover art had really kept me away from this stuff.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 September 2024 15:03 (one year ago)

I had the same doubts as jon but am listening now and, yeah, this is pretty great; a combination of mid 70s and early 80s Yes, with some late 80s fusion shred guitar solos thrown in.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2024 15:16 (one year ago)

feel like jon is in (probably very friendly) competition with trevor rabin these days. jacaranda, rio and now this band geeks thing hit so much harder than anything steve howe's yes has released since fly from here

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 9 September 2024 18:06 (one year ago)

had a fun moment with this during prog night, played "Once Upon a Dream" until that bit like 4 minutes in where he goes "till we go to the heart of the sunrise" and then bam hard cut into that very song

frogbs, Monday, 9 September 2024 18:11 (one year ago)

it's too bad ARW or AWR or whatever turned out such a wet fart of a live album and didn't finish any of their studio album, it might have turned out good though I suspect Wakeman was no help

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 9 September 2024 20:00 (one year ago)

one month passes...

Holy shit this Jon Anderson record, damn. It really is the best Yes album in years. Shame about that My First Pen & Pixel ass album cover though. Imagine this shit with a fine Roger Dean on it.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 October 2024 20:41 (one year ago)

must admit I get Yessed the fuck out when that riff enters around 3:00 in on "Counties and Countries"

this album is so legit. apparently he's touring more in 2025, would love to see them come nearby

frogbs, Monday, 11 November 2024 20:13 (one year ago)

Howe must have Dean under some kind of non-compete contract

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 11 November 2024 20:46 (one year ago)

That might account for why Dean's always there at Howe's Yes shows, hawking his prints in the lobby.

mike t-diva, Monday, 11 November 2024 23:39 (one year ago)

his stuff is kind of terrible clip art at this point

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 11 November 2024 23:51 (one year ago)

Could be, or else Jon just wanted to toss his daughter some work:

Artwork – Deborah Anderson

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 November 2024 23:53 (one year ago)

Great 90 minute Rick Wakeman autobio interview on Rick Beato’s YT channel. Lots of amazing session and recording anecdotes, cool n’ nerdy technical talk and a minimum of rehashed stuff. One of the best !

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 18 November 2024 03:27 (one year ago)

Yeah I liked it, apparently Bruford wants on the show, so I'm looking forward to that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 18 November 2024 18:04 (one year ago)

happy 50th to relayer

mookieproof, Friday, 29 November 2024 02:53 (one year ago)

oh shit gotta put it on before the day is through

frogbs, Friday, 29 November 2024 05:28 (one year ago)

four months pass...

I declare my intention to get more Yessed out tonight than ever before (Jon & his band geeks are coming to Milwaukee)

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 13:52 (ten months ago)

Nice, have fun. Share your thoughts after.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:04 (ten months ago)

Intermission. To get properly yessed out I took an edible 5mg stronger than I’m used to and all I can say is hell yes. Not gonna spoil it but holy fuck at what the first song is

frogbs, Thursday, 24 April 2025 01:42 (ten months ago)

Jon still has it man. He still wants to be there. Not always the case with these aging acts even if they can still play and out on a good show. The band isn’t Yes but they can really play.

frogbs, Thursday, 24 April 2025 01:46 (ten months ago)

My biggest complaint about their Union tour was that they all seemed completely checked out. Just no enthusiasm. Good to hear Jon is enjoying himself again.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 24 April 2025 01:58 (ten months ago)

more livefrogbsblog imo

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 April 2025 02:10 (ten months ago)

Not gonna spoil it but holy fuck at what the first song is

I'm guessing "Holy Lamb (Song for Harmonic Convergence)"

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 24 April 2025 14:27 (ten months ago)

more livefrogbsblog imo

Agreed. Not enough liveblog (but, good man for only posting before the show, during intermission, and after the show)

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 24 April 2025 14:42 (ten months ago)

Good concert attendee, at least. Bad ILM liveblogger.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 24 April 2025 14:43 (ten months ago)

I'll be honest I probably wouldn't have much more to say than ...hell yeah. it was awesome. they did the material justice, which I don't think current Yes does. anyway I'm not sure if anyone here plans on attending so I'll spoiler this.

first song was "Close to the Edge". really ballsy starting with that I think. pretty emotional moment for me, I've heard the Yessongs version a ton and always thought, how cool would it have been to be there? well, this was about as good. felt like I was floating during the middle section. after that, "Perpetual Change". also awesome. the new material I thought worked really well. probably the best compliment I can pay it is, it sounded like it belonged. also they whipped out "Owner of a Lonely Heart" which made some people in the crowd groan. whatever. those people are no fun. that and "True Messenger" (which was way more complex and strange than I remembered) were the only songs under ten minutes. oh and they did "Awaken", that was insane as well. Jon played a harp. he also played tambourine during a lot of it and you could see him get lost a few times, lmao. but his voice is still great!! anyway, "Starship Trooper" went nuts at the end with all the soloing. again, these guys can really play. was kind of bummed they didn't do "Gates of Delirium" because I've seen them do it on YouTube and it's killer. oh well. can't complain when they were just whipping out one incredible epic after another. go see it if you can!!

frogbs, Thursday, 24 April 2025 15:03 (ten months ago)

Nice! Sounds awesome, glad you enjoyed it. Not sure I'll get a chance to catch this tour, but now I'm thinking I need to get the live album from their 2023 tour.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 April 2025 15:09 (ten months ago)

got really yessed the fuck out on Time And A Word the other night, love the bass sound on that album

some dude, Thursday, 24 April 2025 21:37 (ten months ago)

yeah Squire doing some Sonic 3 bonus level shit on the first track is awesome, maybe their ability isn't *quite* there but they really go for it on that album. I listened to a couple weeks ago and remember thinking it was better than I remembered. funny how the title track is the only song they ever whip out from this one, since it doesn't really fit into the album that well.

just finished the recent Jon & the Band Geeks live album, I didn't realize it's from before True, so it's all Yes epics. pretty much the dream setlist too, isn't it? anyway it's great.

frogbs, Thursday, 24 April 2025 22:14 (ten months ago)

lol I just remembered during intermission I told someone I only knew of this band because I bought the True album on sight due to the cool cover. I was like "what's all this other stuff they're playing?? when are they gonna do Shine On??" then I felt bad because he actually believed me!!

frogbs, Friday, 25 April 2025 04:28 (ten months ago)

Hahahaha! THAT cover?!

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 25 April 2025 04:55 (ten months ago)

I think he looks cool on it

frogbs, Friday, 25 April 2025 14:38 (ten months ago)

I came to see geeks, who is this cool guy in front of the band?!?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:11 (ten months ago)

I did play Shine On after reading that post and... loved it straight off? Was I even supposed to? But now I'm apparently going to become that guy who gets into Yes by starting with True.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:28 (ten months ago)

"what's all this other stuff they're playing?? when are they gonna do Shine On??"

lmao I gotta try this sometime

sleeve, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:34 (ten months ago)

Acquainting oneself with the Yes discography in reverse chronological order is a sure path to attaining the virtues of patience and faith in future rewards.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:36 (ten months ago)

No live albums included!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:37 (ten months ago)

it's a legitimately good album! prog fans are a tough bunch to please, especially when it comes to anything Yes related, so all the positive reviews are actually pretty meaningful I think. in the context of the show I thought "Counties and Countries" was particularly good, for the most part it sounds like it could be on The Yes Album.

getting into Yes is a pretty big project if you dont wanna just skip to the good stuff but I'd at least wanna know what you think of Jon's Olias of Sunhillow. its a really remarkable achievement, the one time where it really does feel like Jon was able to capture everything that was going on in his head. and he plays everything on it despite not being much of a musician himself. if it helps sell you on it, it seems massively obvious to me that Susumu Hirasawa was influenced heavily by this album, in fact the sudden shift he takes with Aurora feels like it might've just been him getting really into it at the time

frogbs, Saturday, 26 April 2025 04:44 (ten months ago)

What!!!

Why oh why is music filled with endless wonderful link-ups like that

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 26 April 2025 04:49 (ten months ago)

Acquainting oneself with the Yes discography in reverse chronological order is a sure path to attaining the virtues of patience and faith in future rewards.

My chronological explorer days are mostly behind me but this sounds like a fun and unusual challenge! I'm also doing Hirasawa in regular chronological order so it'll be cool to see how they intertwine / meet.

So what would I do, Jon Anderson solo stuff in reverse until he unquits Yes? (I know nothing about the band other than what I've read on here and Critter Jams, and don't know the first thing about the line-up changes)

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 26 April 2025 04:51 (ten months ago)

oh god no. his catalogue is spotty and ridiculously all-over-the-place. Olias is really special though, based on the stories I've heard he worked himself into a state of delirium making it and doesn't remember finishing certain parts. it really is the best solo album he could've made

if you really wanna go in reverse chronological order with a band I don't think Yes is a particularly interesting band to do it with. because of all the lineup changes there's no real throughline to their stuff after 1980. you probably know they were a successful pop band for a short time but after that things just kind of get weird, at one point there were two competing factions of Yes, actually come to think of it that's kind of what's happening now

Genesis would be a fun band to do that with though. though I'm guessing a lot of people really did get into the band in reverse order - I think they had something like 11 albums straight that each sold more than the last?

frogbs, Saturday, 26 April 2025 05:15 (ten months ago)

Alright, so I'll save myself the masochism and try a True > Olias of Sunhillow > Animation (Robert Adam Gilmour sells it in the Olias thread) > Yes's imperial period path. That'll still get me the perversity props, right?

Time to yes in.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 26 April 2025 07:15 (ten months ago)

No! Corrections!

True > The Invention of Knowledge (I just found out it has Daniel Gildenlöw on back-up vocals, and I adore Daniel; plus the Critter Jams write-up is great, if not encouraing) > Animation (I'm okay skipping decades but I do want to keep traveling in reverse) > Olias of Sunhillow > imperial Yes

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 26 April 2025 08:22 (ten months ago)

Logical reverse chronological review is start with Union and go back from there.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 26 April 2025 12:06 (ten months ago)

Via ABWH, or skip straight to Big Generator then 9012Live: The Solos?

meet-cute on a dissecting table (Matt #2), Saturday, 26 April 2025 12:27 (ten months ago)

Maybe this will help: Yes Albums From Worst To Best

I wrote it in 2015 so it's not totally complete, but I don't remember anything about The Quest or Mirror To The Sky anyway.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 26 April 2025 12:56 (ten months ago)

My slightly facetious suggestion was that you'd have to have a lot of acuity to listen to the most recent Yes records and perceive what was good about their earlier work from those, and then as you listened backwards in time you'd have to keep the faith as you experienced an extremely slow motion perception of rising quality.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 26 April 2025 13:28 (ten months ago)

I did get the gist of that, Halfway, but you put it so beautifully...! And I'm contrarian enough by nature to at least ponder odd avenues of approach.

Unperson's list makes me want to add Magnification to my travels.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 26 April 2025 13:32 (ten months ago)

Plus my experience with Tull means I now have an immense store of good will for legacy prog acts. Tull don't have any unredeemable albums and getting to know them backwards from Homo Erraticus, which came out the autumn I became a full-on fan, would probably have been really fun.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 26 April 2025 13:36 (ten months ago)

Plus my experience with Tull means I now have an immense store of good will for legacy prog acts. Tull don't have any unredeemable albums and getting to know them backwards from Homo Erraticus, which came out the autumn I became a full-on fan, would probably have been really fun.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 26 April 2025 13:36 (ten months ago)

On first full listen: parts of True feel anodyne in the way modern prog tends to, but on the whole, there's a distinctive color to things (not unlike the album cover) and lots of interesting sections -- my first-listen favorites typically the ones in minor key, but I like the brightness of the album's major key backdrop. Feels uplifting. I'll listen more.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 27 April 2025 03:30 (ten months ago)

On second listen, I seem to be entering a state of cautious and yet genuine awe.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 28 April 2025 00:44 (ten months ago)

I kind of had the same experience, on first listen I did notice it having that 'modern' prog sound, where you can tell the bandmembers aren't in the same room as each other - you hear some compression artifacts in the vocals (Invention of Knowledge had this too), every instrument seems produced a little differently, also I do notice a bit of autotune on Jon's voice. I still thought it was one of the best Yes-related releases of the last 40 years, though admittedly that's damning with faint praise. Over a few more listens I realized...it really is legit. The live show confirmed that; if you didn't know any of their music at all you'd probably figure out that "True Messenger" was a newer track, but not the two epics.

frogbs, Monday, 28 April 2025 01:06 (ten months ago)

must admit I get Yessed the fuck out when that riff enters around 3:00 in on "Counties and Countries"

otm, that is quite the riff.

I've played True another three times since yesterday, loving it more with each play!

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 28 April 2025 22:25 (ten months ago)

What a beautiful song Realization Part Two is.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 28 April 2025 23:00 (ten months ago)

The organ jam toward the end of Once upon a Dream is exquisite.

Thank God is cheesy but also really sweet.

We love to sing
It's the nature of things

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 2 May 2025 06:57 (ten months ago)

three weeks pass...

Maybe this will help: Yes Albums From Worst To Best🕸

I wrote it in 2015 so it's not totally complete, but I don't remember anything about _The Quest_ or _Mirror To The Sky_ anyway.

I was excited to read this. But what is this shit with putting Fly From Here behind all those terrible Keys to Ascension records and Union?

I mean, I get if you don’t think it’s their best album since 90125–tho I think it is by some distance—but it seems like you barely listened to it, Phil. Give it another spin!

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 24 May 2025 04:07 (nine months ago)

best YES albums since 90125?

THE LADDER
FLY from HERE (benoit david and trevor horn versions)
UNION selected songs: "Without Hope You Cannot Start the Day", "Silent Talking", "Holding On", "Take the Water to the Mountain"
TALK "real love"

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 June 2025 21:40 (nine months ago)

three weeks pass...

One for the completists:
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/alan-white-ramshackled-remastered-and-expanded-cd-edition

• A NEW REMASTERED AND EXPANDED EDITION OF THE LEGENDARY 1976 SOLO ALBUM BY YES DRUMMER ALAN WHITE.
• REMASTERED FROM THE ORIGINAL TAPES.
• FEATURING STEVE HOWE AND JON ANDERSON.
• RESTORES THE ORIGINAL ALBUM ARTWORK.

winter light controversy (Matt #2), Sunday, 29 June 2025 12:43 (eight months ago)

You can kinda see why they would have switched the cover art at some point

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 29 June 2025 13:49 (eight months ago)

Yeah I dunno about “legendary” but nowadays anything gets that adjective.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 29 June 2025 15:38 (eight months ago)

"well kept secret" doesn't have the same pop

frogbs, Sunday, 29 June 2025 16:28 (eight months ago)

haha

"hermetic masterwork"

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 29 June 2025 17:17 (eight months ago)

two months pass...

happy 90125 day everyone

frogbs, Monday, 1 September 2025 23:02 (six months ago)

Nice. Jan 25, 1990 was the last time we observed it here.

sawdust lagoon, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 00:18 (six months ago)

ty for alerting me to this

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 01:06 (six months ago)

four weeks pass...

I’ve never had any known issues with Rolling Stone magazine although it’s nothing that I’ve ever taken the initiative to read either…I just found out that they named Tales of Topographic Oceans as the 9th most disappointing album of all time though, which makes me want to boycott every word they’ve ever published.

Slim is an Alien, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 02:17 (five months ago)

It's an upgrade from how they treated Yes in the 90s. I love half of Topographic Oceans but I think it's fair to feel it's a big disappointment considering the buildup of the previous albums, it probably seemed like they could do no wrong after Close To The Edge.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 14:25 (five months ago)

side 2 ("high the memory") is in the same league as "close to the edge" and "gates of delirium" imho

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 16:35 (five months ago)

“Don’t Kill the Whale” is one of my favorite Yessomgs and utter mastery of a genre!

timellison, Tuesday, 7 October 2025 01:26 (five months ago)

four months pass...

Don't underrate, appreciate

Don't doubt the fact there's life within you
Yesterday's endings will tomorrow life give you
All that dies, dies for a reason
To put its strength into the seasons

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 March 2026 00:57 (one week ago)


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