THE 1990s POLL - nominations here plz

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one album, one song, same rules as before!

unless anyone has any objections the nominations will be done on Friday Sept 10, when the actual VOTING will begin

To check whether something has already been nominated, please see most recent posts, plus: Here for tracks Here for albums MODERATOR'S NOTE

There has been some confusion. This thread is the official place to nominate tracks and albums for the 90s poll.

Gear! quickly changed his mind to allow two tracks and two albums per person, rather than the one stipulated above.

If you have used up your nominations and want to informally suggest records that others might want to nominate, then use this thread.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we do two albums and tracks each since the time-span we're choosing from is twice as long?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

very good point

two albums, two songs, different rules from before!

I'm easy what can I say

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

The Necks - Hanging Garden
Stereolab - Emporer Tomato Ketchup

Songs:

The Beta Band - She's The One
Aimee Mann - Amateur

phil turnbull (philT), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

We're doing tracks, not nec. singles?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll toss mine in here:

Albums:

Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess
Saint Etienne - Good Humor

Songs:

Ice Cube - "Today Was A Good Day"
New Order - "Regret"


(preferably singles, but I'm not gonna say people can't nominate album tracks xpost)

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Off the cuff nominations which I may frown upon come tomorrow:

Albums:

The Chills - Submarine Bells
µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness

Songs:

Stereolab - "Crest"
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - "Full Grown"

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't it at least be a top 3?

billstevejim, Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I think 2 should work well enough, right?

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This is tough.

Albums:
Killing Joke Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions
Firewater Get Off the Cross, We Need the Wood for the Fire

Songs:
"Summerhead" by the Cocteau Twins
"Wide Open" by Skeleton Key

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Ice Cube - "Today Was A Good Day"
New Order - "Regret"

excellent choices.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

how many albums/songs will we be able to vote for when the nominations are all in? top 15 of each again, or a larger #?

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I imagine it should be thirty this time.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I saw the "same rules as before" line and didn't see that people were voted for 2 each. 2 is cool with me.

billstevejim, Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose I'll tentatively say thirty although who knows how many people will actually vote, lots of people seem burned out on voting, ha.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I can pick 30 albums of my own for which I would feel comfortable voting.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

actually you know what I think 15 would make more sense, I'll just carry over the same points system as Steve used. Just to make things easier.

okay: two songs, two albums, and when the nominations are done, everything else will be the same as Steve did it, since his system was OTMFM

GO

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

dEUS - In a Bar, Under the Sea
Super Furry Animals - Guerilla

Songs:
Teenage Fanclub - 'The Concept'
Guided by Voices - 'Game of Pricks'

Simon H., Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to have to think about this... say, for a decade or so.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Singles: Hey Ya and oh wait, no.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Notorious BIG - Ready to Die

(both of which are nominated so someone else doesn't have to...)

Songs:

Gang Starr - "Mass Appeal"
Geto Boys - "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

fantastic

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you djdee!!!!!

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I really think this whole nominations system is so dodgy that I'm tempted to put together a different poll with a more straightforward voting system, but I don't have the time or energy for it. so good luck, Gear! I'll probably wait until the last possible day to nominate anything just so I know what won't be nominated otherwise that I really want to be in there.

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I would appreciate it if someone would nominate Breaking Atoms, Ridin' Dirty, Stress: The Extinction Agenda, Liquid Swords, "TROY," "Return of the Mack," "Pony," "Bug-A-Boo" and "Hypnotize" thnx.

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear, you're going to cause me physical pain if you only allow me to vote for 15 tracks. You don't want that shit on your conscience.

I just can't get myself to only choose two each here. The 90s were just too wonderful a decade. I'm gonna wait till the morning to bite the bullet.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone get Stephen Thomas Erlewine to thread so he can nominate Menswe@r!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

So much hip hop, I'm going to have to bring in some indie...

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

And something by Cash Money - I Got That Work, "Back that Azz Up," Lil Wayne's "Shine," whatever.

Was "Shake Ya Ass" by Mystikal in the 90s?

So much hip hop, I'm going to have to bring in some indie...
When Pavement and the Beta Band rank above Illmatic and Ready to Die, you'll be at the top of the death list.

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

to ease your mind Bill there is always room for change if the number of nominations is huge (which it hopefully will be). I'd have to figure out a new point system, though. We'll cross that bridge if/when we come to it!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll definitely vote for that geto boys.

Alright. I'll quit fuckin' round. These are by NO means definitive (I doubt I'd place the Jigga in my top ten of the nineties really) but it'd piss me off no end if these weren't on the list somewhere and I just had to post something now while I'm tired and not thinking clearly.

Album: 'Diamonds and Pearls' - Prince
'Reasonable Doubt' - Jay-Z

Singles: 'Are You That Somebody?' - Aaliyah/Timbo
'Around the World' - Daft Punk

Now that I'm looking at what I picked, I'm going to agree that this is impossible. Maybe the nineties year by year? But then, I'm not doing the legwork on this shindig, soooo.....

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

A nomination for UGK's "One Day" would be nice too.

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck and Aquemini and Soul Food! And TROY is a definite must too. And that's just NOW.
This might be a mug's game.

There was an earlier discussion about automatically tossing in the top ten from the respective pazz and jop years; maybe we should start with that pool, gear?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

psst i think we should keep the number of hip-hop/pop/dance nominations low and let the indie faction nominate tons of their shit, that way they will all vote-split and geto boys will win

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

geto boys produce best song of the decade shockah?
They can't be stopped.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

When Pavement and the Beta Band rank above Illmatic and Ready to Die

Lucky for you, I'm more of a Sleater-Kinney and Mogwai fan.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll think about that Fork

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreeance; lets all vote Geto Boys for number 1.

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost obv

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I am an indie fuck.

Albums:
Palace Brothers: Days in the Wake
Smog: Red Apple Falls

Tracks:
The Mountain Goats - "Going to Georgia"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"

cws (cws), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ilm 90s poll results
---------------------------
#100-#2 horrible shit
#1 geto boys

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

If the Geto Boys won, it would almost make up for "Hey Ya" and Kid A winning the 00s poll.

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The FIX is in.
Get it? Cause of Scarface?
Bedtime.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and I'm instantaneously realizing that I want to swap Orbital's "Snivilization" for "Reasonable Doubt" okthnx.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Pavement, Crooked Rain Crooked Rain
Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos, Muy Divertido

Songs:

Tony Toni Tone, If I Had No Loot
Ol' Dirty Bastard, Brooklyn Zoo

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

("Shake Ya Ass" was 2000)

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
Unrest - Imperial ffrr

tracks to come...

frankE (frankE), Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

DJ Shadow Endtroducing
My Bloody Valentine Loveless
Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Pulp "Common People"

alan r. banana (alanbanana), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I imagine this thread will be much longer when I wake up.

Albums:

Basic Channel - "Basic Channel"
Mansun - "Six"

Tracks:

Pepe Braddock - "Deep Burnt"
Sleater-Kinney - "Get Up"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone who wants to enlist in the INTERNATIONAL GETO BOYS STRATEGIC VOTING BLOC plz email me!!

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Ride 'Nowehere'
Sade 'Love Deluxe'

Tracks:
Tricky "For Real"
Primal Scream "Shoot Speed/Kill Light"

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh jesus christ I forgot Nirvana.
Really, this isn't possible.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Shoot Speed/Kill Light is from 2000.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

oops.. Then I'll replace it with Sonic Youth "Skip Tracer"

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Radiohead - OK Computer
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock

Tracks:
Björk - Human Behaviour
Radiohead - Paranoid Android

(Suggestions for further nominations: Breeders - Cannonball, Disco Inferno - D.I. Go Pop, Portishead - Dummy, Scott Walker - Tilt, PJ Harvey - Dry, Autechre - LP5, Tindersticks - Curtains, Piano Magic - Low Birth Weight, Björk - Post, Homogenic, Debut)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man this list is going to be so awful

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums

Orbital - In Sides
Bark Psychosis - Hex

Songs

Disco Inferno - "Summer's Last Sound"
Disco Inferno - "It's A Kid's World"

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

albums
underworld- second toughest in the infants
flaming lips- the soft bulletin

songs
pulp- disco 2000
belle and sebastian- the state i am in

todd swiss (eliti), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)

So many to pick from, here's some no one else might nominate, just to make sure they get on there:

Whiskeytown - Faithless Street
Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen

I think DJDee already told somebody to nominate Mark Morrison's "Return of the Mack," but I was gonna do that anyway cos that's my jam - also toss me in for Montell Jordan's "This is How We Do It"

I'm sure I could do better w/ the singles if it wasn't almost 4am

Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate how people are using these lists as an excuse to be huge assholes.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you'll find it's almost 9am. :o)

X-post - Who's being a huge asshole?

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

albums

denim - back in denim
disco inferno - DI go pop

(now, could someone nominate "heaven or las vegas"? pleeeeeease)

fernando, Saturday, 28 August 2004 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)

someone nominate Mercury Rev's Boces. I would, but I don't feel qualified, being a more recent lurker and all.

jason!, Saturday, 28 August 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

hey sorry - do the tracks need to be singles or not?

piers (piers), Saturday, 28 August 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't care if they're singles or not, personally

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)

THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! But here goes (I might even remember to vote in this one)

Albums:

Supergrass: "I Should Coco"
Pulp: "His'n'Hers"

Singles:

Deee-Lite "Groove is in the Heart"
KLF and Tammy Wynette "Justified and Ancient"

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Well i don't think i offered up singles in the 2000-2004 track nominations but understandably enough it was the singles that dominated the top 10, 20 or whatever...

piers (piers), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(Can someone else nominate "the bends" "tigermilk" "the white room" and "parklife" please, kthanxbye)

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

OK - I think one of these tracks was a single - so there's my each way bet ;)

ALBUMS
Wilco - Being There
Faith No More - Angel Dust

TRACKS
Portishead - Sour Times
Tom Waits - Who Are You

piers (piers), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'll try to redeem myself for being the asshole who nominated Kid A...

Albums:
Brainiac - Hissing Prigs In Static Couture
Boredoms - Super AE

Tracks:
Basement Jaxx - Rendez-Vu
Notorious B.I.G. - Things Done Changed

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Auteurs - How I Learned To Love The Bootboys
Add N To (X) - Avant Hard

Tracks:
Five - Keep On Moving
Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i would suggest the following, based on my experiences doing the 00s poll:

2 albums, 2 tracks (not necess. singles)

pick top TWENTY of each from the final list of nominees (but as before people don't have to pick 20, only up to)

break the points down like this:

1 = 40
2 = 37
3 = 34
4 = 32
5 = 30
6 = 28
7 = 26
8 = 24
9 = 22
10 = 20
11 = 18
12 = 16
13 = 14
14 = 12
15 = 10
16 = 8
17 = 6
18 = 4
19 = 2
20 = 1

but feel free to ignore.

i take it there will be no Hate Vote this time?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I think your plan would work well!

I'm not sure about the Hate Vote, would you advise dropping it?

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, it didn't really have major significance on results in the 00s list, other than keeping poor Fiddy out of the top 100 albums and denying Xtina in the tracks

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

but the 90s Hate Votes would be more interesting I'm sure!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i could run the Hate List separately if it comes to it but we'll see

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe what could be done is a Hate List that is completely separate and has no effect on Teh Love List

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

yep

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds good. now I will sleep.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's the cut off point for the 90s? Fool's Gold came out in about November or December 1989 I think - is this allowed to sneak in?

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Saturday, 28 August 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I assumed the cut off date for the 90s was 1 Jan 1990.

Just nominate 'One Love' instead.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Mercury Rev "Yerself Is Steam"
Gravediggaz "6 Feet Deep"

Tracks:
Snoop Dogg "Murder Was The Case"
Ol' Dirty Bastard "Shimmy Shimmy Ya"

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't mind nominating something that was released in November 1989 if it's permitted - Gear?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Would that be Fool's Gold too?

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

hell no

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i must admit i like the idea of one for 90-94 and one for 95-99 but really one big one is going to be more exciting i think

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Public Enemy, Fear of a Black Planet
Goldie, Timeless

Songs:
"Junglist" by Tribe Of Issachar featuring Peter Bouncer
"Universal Magnetic" by Mos Def

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

nice

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

If anyone needs inspiration, the following is a list I prepared earlier for a "Nineties week" at the radio station I work for (after 10pm airplay only, I'm afraid). I took out most of the Dutch entries because you're not likely to even know them.

Aaliyah: Are You That Somebody?
A Guy Called Gerald: Finley’s Rainbow
Air: All I Need
Aphex Twin: Windowlicker
Arab Strap: Cherubs
Arrested Development: Tennessee
Ash: Kung Fu
Atari Teenage Riot: Deutschland Has Gotta Die!!!
A Tribe Called Quest: Can I Kick It?
Autechre: Leterel
Bad Company: The “Nine”
Badu, Erykah: On & On
Banton, Buju: Champion
Basement Jaxx: Red Alert
Beastie Boys: Sabotage
Beck: Loser
Beenie Man: Romie
Belle And Sebastian: Sleep The Clock Around
Bettie Serveert: Tomboy
Björk: Human Behaviour
The Black Crowes: Remedy
Black Star: Definition
Blackstreet featuring Dr. Dre: No Diggity
Blur: Song 2
Boards Of Canada: Turquoise Hexagon Sun
Bob Dylan: Love Sick
Bomb The Bass featuring Justin Warfield: Bug Powder Dust
The Breeders: Cannonball
Bruce Springsteen: Human Touch
The Bucketheads: The Bomb
Buckley, Jeff: Grace
Buffalo Tom: Taillights Fade
Calexico: Stray
The Cardigans: My Favourite Game
Cash, Johnny: The Beast In Me
Cave, Nick & Kylie Minogue: Where The Wild Roses Grow
The Chemical Brothers: Hey Boy Hey Girl
Cypress Hill: Insane In The Brain
D’Angelo: Brown Sugar
Daft Punk: Da Funk
Dandy Warhols: Not if You Were The Last Junkie On Earth
Dave Clarke: Protective Custody
De La Soul: A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays
Deee-Lite: Groove Is In The Heart
Deftones: Around The Fur
Dem 2: Destiny
dEUS: Suds & Soda
Dinosaur Jr.: Start Choppin'
DJ Krush: Kemuri
DJ Shadow: What Does Your Soul Look Like?
Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Doggy Dogg: Nuthin’ But A “G” Thang
Dr. Octagon: Blue Flowers
Ebo Man: Donuts With Buddah
Eels: Novocaine For The Soul
808 State: Cubik
Elastica: Stutter
Elliott, Missy Misdemeanor: The Rain
Eminem: My Name Is
EPMD: Crossover
The Ex: Lump Sum Insomnia
Faith No More: Midlife Crisis
Fatboy Slim: The Rockafeller Skank
Fix: Dope Computer
The Flaming Lips: She Don’t Use Jelly
4Hero: Wrinkles In Time
Freestylers: B-Boy Stance
Fugazi: Turnover
Fugees: Fu-Gee-La
Gang Starr: Just To Get A Rep
The Ganja Kru: Super Sharp Shooter
Garbage: Only Happy When It Rains
Garnier, Laurent: Crispy Bacon
The Geto Boys: Mind Playing Tricks On Me
Goldie: Inner City Life
Gomez: Get Myself Arrested
The Goodmen: Give It Up
Grandaddy: A.M. 180
Gray, Macy: Do Something
Green Day: Basket Case
Green Velvet: Flash
Guided By Voices: Motor Away
Guns N' Roses: You Could Be Mine
Happy Mondays: Step On
Helden, Armand van: The Funk Phenomena
Hill, Lauryn: Doo Wop (That Thing)
House Of Pain: Jump Around
Ice Cube: It Was A Good Day
I-f: Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass
Inner City: Pennies From Heaven
Jake Slazenger: Megaphonk
Jane’s Addiction: Been Caught Stealing
Jay-Z featuring Mary J. Blige: Can’t Knock The Hustle
Jeru The Damaja: Come Clean
The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion: Bellbottoms
Junkie XL: Saturday Teenage Kick
Kelis: Caught Out There
KLF: What Time is Love?
Korn: Freak On A Leash
Kravitz, Lenny: Are You Gonna Go My Way?
Kristin Hersh: Your Ghost
KRS-One: Sound Of Da Police
Lamb: Cotton Wool
The Lemonheads: Into You Arms
Living Colour: Love Rears Its Ugly Head
LL Cool J: Mama Said Knock You Out
LTJ Bukem: Music
Luciano: Ulterior Motive
Madonna: Justify My Love
Manic Street Preachers: Motown Junk
Marilyn Manson: The Dope Show
Massive Attack: Unfinished Sympathy
Mercury Rev: Goddess On A Hiway
Metallica: Enter Sandman
MJ Cole: Sincere
Moby: Feeling So Real
Mogwai: Cody
Moloko: Sing It Back
Money Mark: Cry
Monster Magnet: Negasonic Teenage Warhead
Moondog Jr: TV Song
Mr. Oizo: Flat Beat
Muse: Muscle Museum
N.W.A: 100 Miles And Runnin'
Nas: It Ain’t Hard To Tell
Nirvana: Smells Like Teen Spirit
The Notorious B.I.G.: One More Chance
Oasis: Wonderwall
The Offspring: Self Esteem
Ol’ Dirty Bastard featuring Kelis: Got Your Money
Omni Trio: Renegade Snares
Optical: To Shape The Future
The Orb: Little Fluffy Clouds
Orbital: The Box
Origin Unknown: Valley Of The Shadows
OutKast: Rosa Parks
Paperclip People: Throw
Pavement: Cut Your Hair
Pearl Jam: Alive
Photek: UFO
Pixies: Velouria
P J Harvey: Rid Of Me
Placebo: Nancy Boy
Plastikman: Spastik
Portishead: Glory Box
Postmen: Cocktail
Primal Scream: Loaded
Prince: Sexy MF
The Prodigy: Firestarter
Public Enemy: Welcome To The Terrordome
Pulp: Common People
R.E.M.: Everybody Hurts
Radiohead: Paranoid Android
Rage Against The Machine: Killing In The Name
Rancid: Time Bomb
Red Hot Chili Peppers: Scar Tissue
Reed, Lou: The Power And The Glory
Rhymes, Busta: Woo-Hah!!! Got You All In Check
Rocket From The Crypt: On A Rope
Rollins Band: Liar
The Roots featuring Erykah Badu: You Got Me
Sebadoh: Beauty Of The Ride
Second Phase: Mentasm
Sepultura: Roots Bloody Roots
Sigur Rós: Svefn-G-Englar
16 Horsepower: Back Soul Choir
Size, Roni/Reprazent: Brown Paper Bag
Sizzla: What Does It Worth?
The Smashing Pumpkins: Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Smith, Elliott: Waltz #2
Snoop Doggy Dogg: What’s My Name?
Solex: Solex All Licketysplit
Sonic Youth: Kool Thing
Soulwax: Too Many DJ's
Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun
Sparklehorse: Sick Of Goodbyes
Spearhead: People In Tha Middle
Speedy J: Ni Go Snix
Spiritualized: Come Together
Stardust: Music Sounds Better With You
The Stone Roses: One Love
Suede: Trash
Sugar: A Good Idea
Super Furry Animals: The International Language Of Screaming
Supergrass: Alright
This Mortal Coil: You And Your Sister
TLC: Waterfalls
Tom Waits: Goin' Out West
Tool: Sober
Tricky: Aftermath
2Pac featuring Dr. Dre: California Love
U2: Mysterious Ways
Underground Resistance: Riot
Underworld: Born Slippy
Urban Dance Squad: Routine
The Verve: Bittersweet Symphony
Weezer: Buddy Holly
Wu-Tang Clan: Protect Ya Neck

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

can we make sure all of those are just added to the list without even having to nominate them? kthnxbye

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Notorious BIG - "Juicy"
Naughty By Nature - "OPP"

Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Super Furry Animals - Radiator

Richard C (avoid80), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a great list - can we just vote on that?

(xpost)

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Kenickie - At The Club
The Delgados - Peloton

Songs:

Elastica - Stutter
Pulp - Something Changed

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

TRACKS

Violent Femmes- I Held Her In My Arms
Sixpence None The Richer- Kiss Me

ALBUMS

Mr T Experience- Love Is Dead
Eels- Electro Shock Blues

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

ALBUMS:
Bjork, Homogenic (someone gotta)
Masters at Work, Nuyorican Soul

TRACKS:
Jordan Knight, "Give It To You"
Stardust, "Music Sounds Better With You" (unless JoB's list counts already like it should)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400

isn't this 2000?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh - just realised - scratch 'Stutter', replace with:

Scarlet - Independent Love Song

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Polvo - Exploded Drawing
Velocity Girl - Simpatico

Songs:

Dinosaur Jr - Start Choppin'
Archers of Loaf - The Lowest Part is Free

(probably won't vote mind you)

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The center won't hold on this list, but I'll probably contribute some comments this time around, should it fly.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

you want to aim for 200-250 people nominating in this to make it as worthwhile as the 00s one. That means maybe up to 500 tracks and 500 albums to choose from!

must resist posting my nominations until obvious choices are already picked by other people...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Basement Jaxx - Rendez-Vu
Notorious B.I.G. - Things Done Changed

you mystical wonderful man

brock (brock), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, here goes.

Albums:

Primal Scream - Screamadelica (god help you all if "Loaded" isn't nominated for songs)
The Chemical Bros. - Dig Your Own Hole

Songs:

Catherine Wheel - "Black Metallic"
Orbital - "Belfast"

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:

nas - illmatic
the orb - adventures beyond the ultraworld

singles:

jay-z - big pimpin'
aaliyah - one in a million

suggestions:

albums:

dj db - a history of our world pt.1
wu tang clan - 36 chambers
mobb deep - hell on earth
aphex twin - selected ambient works ii
missy elliot - da real world

singles:

naughty by nature - OPP/everything's gonna be alright
big l - ebonics
4hero - mr kirk's nightmare
blame - 2 bad mice take you
dead dred - dread bass
big pun - still a player/capital punishment
nas - nas is like
dr dre feat eminem and xbizit - what's the difference (it'll make up for the "breathe" exclusion on the 2k+ list!

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums

Leila "Like weather"
Belle & Sebastian "If you're feeling sinister"

Tracks

Cornershop "Brimful of Asha"
Monaco "What do you want from me"

Sami (Sami), Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck it. Can I retract? No?

Oh well, someone else nominate the Erotica LP plz.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

LPs
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Blur - Parklife

Songs
Blur - For Tomorrow
Underworld - Born Slippy NUXX

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Notorious B.I.G. - Things Done Changed

I don't believe that was actually a single, plus its not going to get as many votes as say "Hypnotize" or "Big Poppa." I love the song too but I thought maybe it'd be better off if you chose a non-album track.

djdee2005, Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Drive Like Jehu - s/t
The Olivia Tremor Control - Black Foliage

Songs:
Boredoms - Super Going
My Bloody Valentine - Soon someone nominate LOVELESS

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

someone nominate LOVELESS

From upthread...

My Bloody Valentine Loveless


-- alan r. banana (subcelestia...), August 28th, 2004 8:05 AM. (later)

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

doh

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Saturday, 28 August 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE SINGLES (xpost)

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Are we having JoB's list then?

If so, "Groove is in the Heart" is already on that, so I would like to change my nomination to "Hallelujah" by Jeff Buckley. If not, one of you should nominate it. If you want, like.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't believe that was actually a single, plus its not going to get as many votes as say "Hypnotize" or "Big Poppa." I love the song too but I thought maybe it'd be better off if you chose a non-album track.

-- djdee2005 (esl...), August 28th, 2004. (later)

I don't believe it was a single either, but what the hell. I fucking love that song and I'm sure enough people have listened to the first two tracks of Ready To Die (and Thanks for nominating it) to possibly get it to place. We're up to two Biggie tracks already. Maybe I'll have a change of heart by the time the 'change nomination' window happens (I was teetering between this song and "Gimme The Loot").

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

2 PAC - ALL EYEZ ON ME
THREE 6 MAFIA - CHAPTER 2: WORLD DOMINATION

Songs:

2 PAC "DEAR MAMA"
FAT PAT "GHETTO DREAMS"

thoed, Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Are we having JoB's list then?

No, I suspect each nomination has to be earned the hard way.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

There are so many good songs on that list posted by JoB. That House Of Pain track and the Jane's Addiction one for example. Yes damn, I've already voted so goodnight.

piers (piers), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Orbital - Brown Album
Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies

Singles:

Orbital - Halcyon
Orbital - Belfast

(Fuck it, I want both of them in)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I'll stick with Deee-lite then. (xpost)

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Ack - Belfast has already been nominated. Give me Chime instead please.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Coup--Steal This Album
Warrant--Cherry Pie

Singles:
Joan Osbourne--Right Hand Man
Ice Cube--The Nigga You Love To Hate

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Pavement - Slanted and enchanted
Mobb Deep - The Infamous

Singles:
Reel 2 Real - I like to move it
Bark Psychosis - A street scene

Michael B, Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm.. I'm going to sit this out a while and am mildly concerned that one of the characters in Gear's life will somehow bring ruin to this poll's collation, but here are 25 of the best 90s tracks for anyone who'd like to be annoyed by another long list:

1 | Your Ages | The Blue Aeroplanes
2 | Dance | Earth People
3 | Not Forgotten (Original Mix) | Leftfield
4 | Five Moments | The Field Mice
5 | It's Grim Up North | The JAMMs
6 | Little Fluffy Clouds (Dance MK II) | The Orb
7 | You And Your Sister | This Mortal Coil
8 | Octopussy | The Wedding Present
9 | Venus As A Boy | Bjork
10 | Atta Girl | Heavenly
11 | Blue Light | Mazzy Star
12 | Wilmot | The Sabres Of Paradise
13 | Can't See Through It | Disco Inferno
14 | Partida (Departure) | Cesaria Evora
15 | Lonely Days | Future Bible Heroes
16 | Transport Is Arranged | Pavement
17 | You Make It Easy | Air
18 | Sleep The Clock Around | Belle & Sebastian
19 | One By One | Billy Bragg & Wilco
20 | Pull The Wires From The Wall | The Delgados
21 | Hush The Warmth | Gorky's Zygotic Mynci
22 | The Fear | Pulp
23 | I Know | Fiona Apple
24 | We're Selfish And Lazy And Greedy | Go-Kart Mozart
25 | All My Little Words | The Magnetic Fields

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

10 | Atta Girl | Heavenly

That was one of my mental reserve list too. I don't know that I want lots of these picked though, as I am going to have real problems voting.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Saint Etienne - Foxbase Alpha
The Pet Shop Boys - Very

Songs:
Orlando - Contained
The Manic Street Preachers - Stay Beautiful

Atnevon (Atnevon), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

albums

jay-z - volume 3: the life and times of s. carter
basement jaxx - remedy

singles
missy elliot - the rain (supa dupa fly)
wu-tang clan - triumph

adam west (adamwest), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

re: Kernkraft 400

The Zombie Nation EP from Gigolo Records was issued in 1999. I reckon the track was already huge by then.

Anyway, if you're still not sure you can replace this with "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass" or "We're Selfish And Lazy And Greedy", wich popped up in some lists of this thread and I hope are included in the final selection...

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I Know is a helluva song Alba.

piers (piers), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I know!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

This is like sounding out backers, seeing if it's worth nominating something or not. You've maybe persuaded me, but I feel an obligation to nominate dance stuff as it looks like being so poorly represented.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Ack - Belfast has already been nominated. Give me Chime instead please.

god bless you man.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Sloan - One chord to another
Beck - Odelay

Tracks:
A Tribe Called Quest - Electric relaxation
Sonic Youth - The diamond sea

Eoin, Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

albums: Wu-Tang Clan 36 Chambers
A Tribe Called Quest Low End Theory

songs: Biggie, Puffy and Ma$e "Mo Money Mo Prolems"
R.E.M. "Losing My Religion"

should we start thinking up are nominations for the 80s, 70s, 60s, etc?

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Carcass, Heartwork
The 3rd and the Mortal, Tears Laid In Earth

Songs:
Eno / Cale, "Cordoba"
Eyeless In Gaza, "To Cry Mercy"

the todster (the todster), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

other things i feel people shouldn't forget about:

herbert - around the house
the gravediggaz
foul play
midi maxi and efti
sl2 - on a ragga tip
swv
mary j. blige - real love
dj hype
ltj bukem - atlantis
console - 14 zero zero

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

suggestions (I might do more later):

dead C 'harsh 70s reality' 'repent' 'clyma est mort' 'operation of the sonne'

fushitsusha 'PSF15/16'

ground zero 'revolutionary pekinese opera'

MIMEO s/t on perdiition platics label

harry pussy 'what was music?'

sun city girls '330,003 crossdressers...'

ascension 'broadcast'

descension 'live march 1995'

skullflower 'carved into roses' 'xaman' 'obsidian shaking codex'

cornelius cardew 'treatise' first recoring released in'98 on hat art.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
The Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation

Songs:
Blur - For Tomorrow
Radiohead - Airbag

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"For Tomorrow" has already been suggested.

Also, upthread someone said "Big Pimpin'," which was '00.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

ok im only a semi-lurker but i figured i better nominate these because no one else will:

The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic
Ground Zero - Consume Red

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i said 'big pimpin', and 'life and times of s.carter vol. 3' (also nominated above), the album that it's on, was released in 1999 - so there. it was released as a single in 2000, i think, but since we aren't obligated to nominate 'actual' singles, it don't matter.

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot
Lycia - The Burning Circle and Then Dust

Traxx:
This Ascension - "August Rain"
Red House Painters - "Have You Forgotten?"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, good point.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"For Tomorrow" has already been suggested.

k, plz replace with Placebo - "Pure Morning", thxbye

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Quannum's 'I Changed My Mind' and Broadcast's 'Echo's Answer' also qualify for this poll pop-pickers ;)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ok im only a semi-lurker but

Please lurkers all delurk and nominate - we need some decent choices here!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

alba you are asking for trouble

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone nominate "Weak" by SWV and 'Everlong" by the Foo Fighters, please.

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the swv single to nominate is right here (human nature) i think

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

albums
afghan whigs gentlemen
massive attack mezzanine

songs
spinanes 'hawaiian baby'
smashing pumpkins 'cherub rock'

(/corny indie fuq)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, I know. Right now I'll after quantity not quality - surely some lurkers will nominate something I like though? Maybe I should enlist my friends to pretend to be lurkers.

x-post O NO!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously though, so far there only about four tracks that I even like.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

From way upthread ... stevem's revised points system is good, but I think there should be more of a gap in points between the top choices.

The simplest revision would be 45 points for a #1 pick, keeping everything else the same.

Or, perhaps spread out the points in the top five, something like

5 = 30
4 = 33
3 = 37
2 = 42
1 = 50

Just my $0.02

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

you don't like archers of loaf N?

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

my "fo' reel" nominations...

Albums:
Weezer - Pinkerton
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out

Singles:
Prince - "Gett Off"
Sugar Ray - "Someday"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i came to view that gap as too great in the end. i would prefer it to be narrower, esp. if it stops the poll becoming the two horse race it did in the albums list - the tracks list only ever had about four or five number ones too and that was only early on - 'Hey Ya' topping the poll pretty early on and never getting dislodged.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the gap encourages artists with rabid fans.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Someday," CeCe?

Surely "Fly" or "Every Morning" are better choices, no?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"Someday."

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i can think of about 100,000 better choices myself /annoyingass

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

But "early on" means nothing, since nobody except for you knew what albums and tracks were in the lead. Therefore, nobody could vote based on where their favourites were placed at the time.

The order in which the votes were sent and counted were random anyhow -- the only thing that matters is the total once everything is tabulated.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Soul Asylum - Somebody to Shove

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Singles:

Aaliyah - "One In A Million"
Warren G feat. Nate Dogg - "Regulate"

Albums:

Pulp - 'Different Class'
KLF - 'Chill Out'

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

well when "better choices" = corny-ass techno for someone of course they can think of 100,000 better choices. twas your decade.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

too shay

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

And what's wrong with "encouraging rabid fans"? The winner should be the artists whose music is liked the most by the most number of people. That's the whole point, isn't it?

(xpost)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"One in a Million" and (I'm pretty sure) Different Class are already taken.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Besides that, though, fantastic choices.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

is 'Chill Out' 90s?

Barry - yeh, there's just something about the bigger gap that irks, I keep forgetting what it is tho.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Recorded '89 but released '90, I believe.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

did someone nominate no diggity yet, cause they should..

adam west (adamwest), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:
Disco Inferno - The Last Dance
Destiny's Child - Bills, Bills, Bills

Albums:
Omni Trio - Vol 1: The Deepest Cut
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime

Ricardo (RickyT), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"One in a Million" and (I'm pretty sure) Different Class are already taken.

no, they weren't.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Ricardo i thought you were gonna do Black Secret Technology ;)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Never mind, somehow His n Hers was nominated but not DC.

M did nominate "One in a Million," however.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

And what's wrong with "encouraging rabid fans"? The winner should be the artists whose music is liked the most by the most number of people. That's the whole point, isn't it?

What I meant was that there are certain artists that inspire adoration from fans. The assumption (in, that a No. 1 vote from one person is worth more points than the combined total of 44 people voting for something else their 15th favourite is perhaps faulty. I think it skews the vote in favour of guitar bands for a start.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

oops, one in million was - I hit 'find' w/only the last 50 answers displayed

scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, there had already been three songs from Different Class nominated.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

we were talking about it in the pub last night and one of the reasons i love the idea of this 90s poll is we will hopefully get to witness the conflict within all the people here who are just too terrified to nominate 'Holy Bible' lol

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Strike the "(in, that a No.1 vote" and replace it with "that" in my last post.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't the holy bible finish in the top 10 in ILM's all-time poll all those years ago?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but that was the book.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the king james bradfield edition?

(I'll get my coat...)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Warren G feat. Nate Dogg - "Regulate"

Fuck yes.

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

somehow His n Hers was nominated but not DC.

"somehow" because I liked it better than Different Class. Which is sort of the point of this, isn't it? Or do we all have to be ninjas of the obvious?

FWIW, I wanted to nominate the Holy Bible also but figured someone else would. I'm not scared of it, it defined my pre-Tigermilk 1990s. But it doesn't hold up as well as other albums.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you Anthony for Dig Me Out and whoever nominated Enter the Wu-Tang.

I guess I've gone from semi-regular to semi-lurker of late. I'm gonna hold out a little while longer to see if others will do my bidding for me, but things still out there that must be nominated:

Singles -- "No DIggity," "The Humpty Dance," "TROY," "Summer Babe," "Rockefeller Skank," "Around the Way Girl," "Not Gon' Cry," "Autumn Sweater," "Protect Ya Neck."

Albums -- Maxinquaye, Call the Doctor, My Life, I Can Hear the Heart Beating, Slim Shady LP, 69 Love Songs . . .

What's the rule on comps? Is The Immaculate Collection eligible even though most of the songs are from the 80s?

chris herrington (chris herrington), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The more I think about it, the more I realise that the 1990s is the decade that ILM will come out with the worst list for.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it's all predictable enough so far but not too bad for it.

the choices i have in mind, i doubt anyone else will think to nominate but i do think others would vote for...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll shyly submit:

Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts with Announcements
Nirvana - In Utero

Tribe Called Quest - Award Tour
Belle & Sebastian - Stars of Track and Field

p.j. (Henry), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

can you nominate a single together with its b-side? for example autumn goodbye is at least as good as baby one more time

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

well on the 00s poll we had 'weak become heroes' and a remix of it which would both count as the same single - i'm not sure what i prefer in this regard

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

someone nominate Moonshake Eva Luna and "Verbal Intercourse" feat Raekwon, Ghostface and Nas. Fuck, whyed I vote so early.

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

albums
moonshake 'eva luna'
able tasmans 'hey spinner!'

songs
pram 'chrysalis'
rocketship 'your new boyfriend'

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I have 15 of the albums so far. I shall definetely give big points to Warrant's Cherry Pie, OTC's Black Foilage and the Pinketron.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i had typed that before i saw that.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Keith M ur my hero

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums: Ween - The Mollusk, The Flaming Lips - Zaireeka
Songs: Disco Inferno - "Love Stepping Out", The Future Sound of London - "Papua New Guinea"

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

DI are gonna split votes like crazy.

"somehow" because I liked it better than Different Class. Which is sort of the point of this, isn't it? Or do we all have to be ninjas of the obvious?

Likewise, I am allowed to find such prefrences surprising, but moreso I was shocked that DC had not been nominated than that HnH had been (especially with three songs already chosen).

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:
TLC - Creep
2 Bad Mice - Bombscare

Albums:
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Tricky - Maxinquaye

Venga, Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Those albums aren't necessarily my faves but a 90s list would be silly without them.

Venga, Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

My nominations:

Albums:
Julee Cruise, Floating into the Night*
Tindersticks, Simple Pleasure

Tracks:
Wu-Tang Clan, "C.R.E.A.M."
Nas, "It Ain't Hard to Tell"


*This technically came out in late 1989, but surely belongs to the 1990s.


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Suggestions (I didn't double-check to see if all of these had been chosen already):

GZA, Liquid Swords (!!!!!)
Bonnie Prince Billy, I See a Darkness
Smog, Knock Knock
Television Personalities, Closer to God
Ghostface Killah, Ironman
Lewis Taylor, Lewis II
EBTG, Walking Wounded
Scott Walker, Tilt
Sonic Youth, "Kool Thing" (!!!!!!)
Air, "Sexy Boy"
D'Angelo, "Devil's Pie"
LL Cool J, "Doin It"
Jeru the Damaja, "Come Clean"
Aaliyah, "Back and Forth"
Autechre, "Glitch"
Gastr Del Sol, “Our Exquisite Replica of ‘Eternity’”
Pulp, “Disco 2000”
Pet Shop Boys, "So Hard"
Julee Cruise, "Rocking Back inside My Heart"
The Sundays, "Here's Where the Story Ends"
Sir Mix-a-Lot, "Baby Got Back"
Palace, "Ohio River Boat Song"


etc.


amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Kristin Hersh, Hips and Makers
They Might Be Giants, Flood
Pixies, "Alec Eiffel"
Laika, "Sugar Daddy"

Nick Mirov (nick), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i think feel so good should be nominated but i am worried about fracturing the bad boy records vote

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

cmon PLEASE someone nominate liquid swords and "kool thing" PLEASE

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:

dj db - a history of our world vo1. 1: breakbeat and jungle ultramix
a guy called gerald - black secret technology

singles:

omni trio - "renegade snares (foul play vip mix)"
blackstreet - "no diggity"

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

voting is gonna be even harder than nominating at this rate - excellent...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

jess is such a rockist

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Dr. Dre - The Chronic

Tracks:
Utah Saints - "Something Good"
Backstreet Boys - "I Want It That Way"


kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

man, gear will have his hands full (gear: if you need some help, let me know).

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Busta's Woo Hah must be nominated without further ado.

Venga, Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

hopefully someone will nominated doggystyle and capital punishment within the next couple days so i can waste nominations on INDIE ALBUMS YESSSSS

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

just to be a jerk, i predict "common people" at no 1 or no 2

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

suggestions:

"tried by twelve"
"come clean"
"sippin on some syrup"
"c'mon and ride it (the train)"
"aftermath" (both tricky and now)
"scenario"
"elevators (me and you)"
"cell therapy"
"all i need"
"protect ya neck"
"dred bass"
"the angels fell"
"hand over fist"
"summer babe"
"nothing compares 2 u"
frequencies
parallel universe
enta da stage
de la is dead
THE CHRONIC
doggystyle
slim shady lp
reasonable doubt
amerkkka's most wanted
mama said knock you out
breakin atoms
the sun rises in the east
bizarre ride II the pharcyde
93 til infinity
supa dupa fly

(some of these may have been nominated already.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Any autechre track, in the effort at providing consensus among aephiles, I think should be "rae."

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I had some mad fun miming to "Common People" last night while dancin'. I'm good at the wristflips. I'm cool with that doing well.

"summer babe" is so token.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i am surprised 'higher than the sun' hasn't made it, i know screamadelica has fallen from it's perch but i thought everyone still loved htts.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

if there's one hip hop track on this bitch i think it should be Craig Mack's 'Flava In Ya Ear' Bad Boy remix featuring Puffy, LL, Biggie and Busta - awesome


but i am not nominating until Thursday 9th September, and i am not likely to nominate that track

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and

repeater
red medecine
foolish
hex
the four horsemen
all eyez on me
"girl/boy song"

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

just to be a jerk, i predict "common people" at no 1 or no 2

Likewise Loveless.

Venga, Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"moby octopad"
"wish"
"spin spin sugar (armand's dark garage mix)"
"destiny (sleepless)"
"playa's ball"
"I GOT 5 ON IT"
"slam"
"jump around"

fuck the 90s were great!!! this is poll is gonna suck tho.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i am absolutely not voting for any indie records even if doing so would help loveless beat ok computer

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope we don't end up with too much mediocre hip hop nominated just to thwart actually pretty good indie

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict everyone will wait til the last day and a half to nominate. Everyone will have to end up going with their predictable choices.

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i dunno if nominating biggie lp cuts is the way forward

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

my tracks :
Belvedere Kane - Never Felt As Good
orlando - just for a second

suggestions :
shy fx - gangsta kid
nasty habits - Shadowboxing
boymerang - still
Dj Crystl - Warpdrive
dead dred - dred bass
lfo - what is house

...and "hex", yes!

fernando, Saturday, 28 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Tricky - Maxinquaye

-- Venga (des230...), August 28th, 2004 3:26 PM. (later)

DefMaybe was nominated by roxymuzak already ...

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:

herbert - around the house
belle and sebastian - lazy line painter jane ep box
(if that doesn't count...piano magic - low birth weight

tracks:
quad city dj's - "c'mon and ride it (the train)"
saint etienne - "he's on the phone"

also more suggestions (probable xpost): the acen singles (!), more saint etienne singles, "missing the moon", "super sharp shooter", "nuthin' but a g thang", "wannabe", "fly life (brixton radio edit)", Music Has the Right to Children, Tiger Bay

scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

god how i fucking hate blur

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

good lord there was a lot of quality music released in the 90s

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

wait wait wait when was new order's technique?!?! was that 1989????

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"doctor jones!!!!!!!"

bakers (thoia), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

some random songs I'd be happy seeing on here:

"I Am A Scientist"
"All Star"
"Hand On The Pump"
"Rebel Girl"
"Cannonball"
"Come Out And Play"
"The Freed Pig"
"Nookie"
"My Name Is"
"Time Bomb"
"Down Low (Nobody Has To Know)"
"It's All About The Benjamins (Rock Remix)"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott, even if nobody else nominates St. Etienne, we've already got their best single in there (thx, otherwise I would have had to nominate it).

just to be a jerk, i predict "common people" at no 1 or no 2

Likewise Loveless.

These are like the shoo-ins of the century.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

also what about one of the first few r. kelly albums?????

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

yeah be careful people if there's already like 400 songs by yr favorite artist nominated you might cause problems by nominating another.

i think this will be especially problematic for wu-tang clan.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

man the '90s video poll would be 1/2 Spike Jonze

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

nom suggestions:
depeche mode "enjoy the silence"
the the "love is stronger than death"
moby "go"

alan r. banana (alanbanana), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

depeche mode "enjoy the silence"


oh FUCK YES

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i am such a summer camp corny fuck

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

dr jones vs barbie girl is a debate i've been having in my head, i think dr jones would do a lot better (attract fewer hate votes) though my oh my may be better than either

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

xp && singles have art. maybe 12play

bakers (thoia), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the thing abt dr jones is like, was there a thing where ppl who voted interpol did or did not go listen to missy??

bakers (thoia), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

aquarium alb is flawless (wonders abt some guitar) but harder 2 spell than dr jones

bakers (thoia), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Radiohead - OK Computer

God, it's going to be soooo easy to give this one no points this go-around.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Is someone going to create the "suggestions" thread soon?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

What the hell.

Filter your suggestions for THE 1990s POLL out of that thread and put them here.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i would def vote for aquarium, the thing is if it gets nominated some other well known dance-pop albums have to be nominated as well to split the hate vote, much like a stealth bomber releasing chaff to decoy enemy missiles

artiste (artiste), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

gah!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry I just woke up

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Any word on a definitive "What's been nominated list?"

xpost, guess that answers my question; gear this is looking close to impossible. Maybe just a 1996-1999 poll? Ten years of music is too much for anybody, especially with some critical distance.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I will work on a "what's been nominated" list and in the meantime no more suggestions on this thread, use the other one for that!

I'm going to give it an effort, FCT

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

SOMEONE PLEASE NOMINATE SAWII TRACK 3 ("Rhubarb")

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

did you see gear's lats post?

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

En Vogue - Funky Divas
Spice Girls - Spice

Madonna - Vogue
Nirvana - Smells like blah blah

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I missed it, but I saw the thread immediately after I posted and reposted it there.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:

There's Nothing Wrong with Love - Built to Spill
Alien Lanes - Guided by Voices

tracks:

Loro - Pinback
Moby Octopad - Yo La Tengo

darin, Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

DefMaybe was nominated by roxymuzak already ...

Damnittohell. Air's Moon Safari then. Can't find that so far.

Venga, Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

cool, now i feel like i won't need to nominate 'la femme d'argent' as a track

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the list of what has been nominated thus far! if anyone notices something missing, let me know. This is not in any alphabetical order yet, I'll deal with that at the end...

ALBUMS

Supergrass: "I Should Coco"
Pulp: "His'n'Hers"
Wilco - Being There
Faith No More - Angel Dust
Brainiac - Hissing Prigs In Static Couture
Boredoms - Super AE
The Auteurs - How I Learned To Love The Bootboys
Add N To (X) - Avant Hard
Mercury Rev "Yerself Is Steam"
Gravediggaz "6 Feet Deep"
Public Enemy, Fear of a Black Planet
Goldie, Timeless
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Super Furry Animals – Radiator
Kenickie - At The Club
The Delgados - Peloton
Bjork, Homogenic
Masters at Work, Nuyorican Soul
Polvo - Exploded Drawing
Velocity Girl - Simpatico
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
The Chemical Bros. - Dig Your Own Hole
Blur – Parklife
Drive Like Jehu - s/t
The Olivia Tremor Control - Black Foliage
2 PAC - ALL EYEZ ON ME
THREE 6 MAFIA - CHAPTER 2: WORLD DOMINATION
Orbital - Brown Album
Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies
The Coup--Steal This Album
Warrant--Cherry Pie
Pavement - Slanted and enchanted
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Saint Etienne - Foxbase Alpha
The Pet Shop Boys - Very
jay-z - volume 3: the life and times of s. carter
basement jaxx – remedy
Sloan - One chord to another
Beck - Odelay
Wu-Tang Clan 36 Chambers
A Tribe Called Quest Low End Theory
Carcass, Heartwork
The 3rd and the Mortal, Tears Laid In Earth
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
The Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation
The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic
Ground Zero - Consume Red
The Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot
Lycia - The Burning Circle and Then Dust
afghan whigs gentlemen
massive attack mezzanine
Weezer - Pinkerton
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
Pulp - 'Different Class'
KLF - 'Chill Out'
Air - Moon Safari
Omni Trio - Vol 1: The Deepest Cut
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts with Announcements
Nirvana - In Utero
moonshake 'eva luna'
able tasmans 'hey spinner!'
Ween - The Mollusk
The Flaming Lips – Zaireeka
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Tricky – Maxinquaye
Julee Cruise, Floating into the Night*
Tindersticks, Simple Pleasure
Kristin Hersh, Hips and Makers
They Might Be Giants, Flood
dj db - a history of our world vo1. 1: breakbeat and jungle ultramix
a guy called gerald - black secret technology
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
herbert - around the house
belle and sebastian - lazy line painter jane ep box
piano magic - low birth weight
En Vogue - Funky Divas
Spice Girls - Spice
There's Nothing Wrong with Love - Built to Spill
Alien Lanes - Guided by Voices
Mr T Experience- Love Is Dead
Eels- Electro Shock Blues
The Necks - Hanging Garden
Stereolab - Emporer Tomato Ketchup
Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess
Saint Etienne - Good Humor
The Chills - Submarine Bells
µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness
Killing Joke Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions
Firewater Get Off the Cross, We Need the Wood for the Fire
dEUS - In a Bar, Under the Sea
Super Furry Animals - Guerilla
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
'Diamonds and Pearls' - Prince
Orbital "Snivilization"
Palace Brothers: Days in the Wake
Smog: Red Apple Falls
Pavement, Crooked Rain Crooked Rain
Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos, Muy Divertido
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
Unrest - Imperial ffrr
DJ Shadow Endtroducing
My Bloody Valentine Loveless
Basic Channel - "Basic Channel"
Mansun - "Six"
Ride 'Nowehere'
Sade 'Love Deluxe'
Radiohead - OK Computer
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
underworld- second toughest in the infants
flaming lips- the soft bulletin
Orbital - In Sides
Bark Psychosis - Hex
Whiskeytown - Faithless Street
Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen
denim - back in denim
disco inferno - DI go pop


SONGS

Loro - Pinback
Moby Octopad - Yo La Tengo
Snoop Dogg "Murder Was The Case"
Ol' Dirty Bastard "Shimmy Shimmy Ya"
"Junglist" by Tribe Of Issachar featuring Peter Bouncer
"Universal Magnetic" by Mos Def
Notorious BIG - "Juicy"
Naughty By Nature - "OPP"
Scarlet - Independent Love Song
Pulp - Something Changed
Violent Femmes- I Held Her In My Arms
Sixpence None The Richer- Kiss Me
Jordan Knight, "Give It To You"
Stardust, "Music Sounds Better With You"
Dinosaur Jr - Start Choppin'
Archers of Loaf - The Lowest Part is Free
Catherine Wheel - "Black Metallic"
Orbital - "Belfast"
jay-z - big pimpin'
aaliyah - one in a million
Leila "Like weather"
Belle & Sebastian "If you're feeling sinister"
Cornershop "Brimful of Asha"
Monaco "What do you want from me"
Blur - For Tomorrow
Underworld - Born Slippy NUXX
Boredoms - Super Going
My Bloody Valentine - Soon
2 PAC "DEAR MAMA"
FAT PAT "GHETTO DREAMS
Orbital - Halcyon
Orbital - Chime
Joan Osbourne--Right Hand Man
Ice Cube--The Nigga You Love To Hate
Reel 2 Real - I like to move it
Bark Psychosis - A street scene
Orlando - Contained
The Manic Street Preachers - Stay Beautiful
missy elliot - the rain (supa dupa fly)
wu-tang clan - triumph
A Tribe Called Quest - Electric relaxation
Sonic Youth - The diamond sea
Biggie, Puffy and Ma$e "Mo Money Mo Prolems"
R.E.M. "Losing My Religion"
Eno / Cale, "Cordoba"
Eyeless In Gaza, "To Cry Mercy"
Placebo - "Pure Morning",
Radiohead - Airbag
This Ascension - "August Rain"
Red House Painters - "Have You Forgotten?"
spinanes 'hawaiian baby'
smashing pumpkins 'cherub rock'
Prince - "Gett Off"
Sugar Ray - "Someday"
Soul Asylum - Somebody to Shove
Aaliyah - "One In A Million"
Warren G feat. Nate Dogg - "Regulate"
Disco Inferno - The Last Dance
Destiny's Child - Bills, Bills, Bills
Tribe Called Quest - Award Tour
Belle & Sebastian - Stars of Track and Field
pram 'chrysalis'
rocketship 'your new boyfriend'
Disco Inferno - "Love Stepping Out"
The Future Sound of London - "Papua New Guinea"
TLC - Creep
2 Bad Mice - Bombscare
Wu-Tang Clan, "C.R.E.A.M."
Nas, "It Ain't Hard to Tell"
Pixies, "Alec Eiffel"
Laika, "Sugar Daddy"
omni trio - "renegade snares (foul play vip mix)"
blackstreet - "no diggity"
Utah Saints - "Something Good"
Backstreet Boys - "I Want It That Way"
Belvedere Kane - Never Felt As Good
orlando - just for a second
quad city dj's - "c'mon and ride it (the train)"
saint etienne - "he's on the phone"
Madonna - Vogue
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
The Beta Band - She's The One
Aimee Mann - Amateur
Ice Cube - "Today Was A Good Day"
New Order - "Regret"
Stereolab - "Crest"
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - "Full Grown"
"Summerhead" by the Cocteau Twins
"Wide Open" by Skeleton Key
Teenage Fanclub - 'The Concept'
Guided by Voices - 'Game of Pricks'
Gang Starr - "Mass Appeal"
Geto Boys - "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"
Singles: 'Are You That Somebody?' - Aaliyah/Timbo
'Around the World' - Daft Punk
The Mountain Goats - "Going to Georgia"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"
Tony Toni Tone, If I Had No Loot
Ol' Dirty Bastard, Brooklyn Zoo
Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Pulp "Common People"
Pepe Braddock - "Deep Burnt"
Sleater-Kinney - "Get Up"
Tricky "For Real"
Sonic Youth "Skip Tracer"
Björk - Human Behaviour
Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Disco Inferno - "Summer's Last Sound"
Disco Inferno - "It's A Kid's World"
pulp- disco 2000
belle and sebastian- the state i am in
Montell Jordan's "This is How We Do It"
Mark Morrison Return of the Mack
Deee-Lite "Groove is in the Heart"
KLF and Tammy Wynette "Justified and Ancient"
Portishead - Sour Times
Tom Waits - Who Are You
Basement Jaxx - Rendez-Vu
Notorious B.I.G. - Things Done Changed
Five - Keep On Moving
Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Leila "Like weather"
Belle & Sebastian "If you're feeling sinister"

Both albums.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Depeche Mode "Violator"
Various Artists "LTJ Bukem presents: Logical Progression v1"

Singles:
Mary J Blige "Real Love"
Ricardo Villalobos "808 the Bassqueen"

(any so-called microhouse enthusiast who hasnt heard the last one should download b4 voting plz thaanx)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh yes, bad cut n paste job xp

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This is sooo hard...

My nominations are:

Albums:

1.-Moose - Live a Little, Love a Lot
(please listen to this album if you haven't!)
2.-The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs

Songs:

1.- Portishead - All Mine
2.- Slowdive - Alison


Please nominate more Saint Etienne (So Tough, Only love can break your heart...) and some Stereo total.

daavid (daavid), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, 69 love songs will probably clean up

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate

Tracks:
Pete Rock and CL Smooth - TROY
Jeru - Come Clean

Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Imagine if Smells like Teen Spirit/Nevermind wins

Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Pete Rock and CL Smooth - TROY

HERO

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

there is no way we're ever gonna cover it all

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I did it for djdee

xp

Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Imagine if Smells like Teen Spirit/Nevermind wins

They'll have to do it without my votes.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

there is no way we're ever gonna cover it all

One possible solution to this problem is to add all suggestions to the masterlist. If you did this, it might be a good idea not to tell us you're doing this until the nominations are over, so we don't suggest too much stuff. I realize this solution would mean an insane amount of work for Gear. But hey, it's for an internet poll!

Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Saint Etienne - So Tough
Pet Shop Boys - Very

Songs:
Kylie Minogue - Better The Devil You Know
Pulp - Babies

(So Tough vs. Tiger Bay was agony but helpfully people had already snaffled various Pulp booty etc so my task was easier)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

If we're going to start adding suggestions then we might as well do away with the nominations process and just have everybody send in their own top 30.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Pet Shop Boys was already nominated.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

my latest wish is that Tricky's 'For Real' be replaced by the b-side 'Bombin' Bastards'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

keep suggestions to the suggestions thread, keep nominations to this thread - pretty simple yo

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(my post above that doesn't count as a suggestion...maybe there should be a separate thread for annoying comments/regrets)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

albums - i can hear the heart beating as one (yo la tengo)
& series of sneaks (spoon)
tracks - karmacoma (massive attack) and tom courtenay (yo la tengo)
sorry, i listened to a lot of yo la tengo in the 90s.

Bruce S. Urquhart (BanjoMania), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Pet Shop Boys was already nominated.

well, shit, replace with Betty Boo - Boomania

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i love you Alex

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

singles: "pony" by ginuwine
"genie in a bottle" by christina aguilera

albums: tindersticks (2nd one) by the tindersticks
kaleidoscope by kelis (this is pre-2000, right?)

dave k, Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha, Kaleidoscope seemed to be on the CUSP depending on your UK/US status, I considered it but was kind of AFRAID of making a MISTAKE. I think it should stay though

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

when is the deadline?

more suggestions to add to other ones earlier:

arto lindsay trio 'aggregates 1-26'

kaija saaraiho 'six japanese gardens'

claude vivier 'quatre chants...'

sonic youth 'goodbye 20th century'

slint 'spiderland' (ho ho)

milford graves 'grand unification'

maryanne amacher 'sound characters'

royal trux 'twin infinitives'

(oh and someone should nominate 'the soft bulletin' since 'zaireeka' is 4CDs ;-))

try and think of some more later.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Mr. Desouza: Filter your suggestions for THE 1990s POLL out of that thread and put them here.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Pizzicato Five, Happy End of the World
The Boo Radleys, Giant Steps (actually C'mon Kids is more my favorite but no one else will vote for that so)

Tracks:
L.L. Cool J, "Mama Said Knock You Out"
Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, "Matador"

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

but I would happily vote for "Tha Crossroads" or Caetano Veloso's Livro if someone else nominated them. also I had to leave off George Clinton and the P.Funk All-Stars' T.A.P.O.A.F.O.M. and I'm thinking of switching but I don't think anyone else even heard it, much less appreciates the way the legacy was maintained there.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

M did nominate "One in a Million," however.

In that case I'd like to nominate:

My Bloody Valentine - "To Here Knows When"

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe I forgot Giant Steps. Maybe I figured someone else would remember. Voting out of this list is going to be a total headfuck.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

pharcyde - bizarre ride II the pharcyde
morrissey - vauxhall and I

notorious BIG - hypnotize
black sheep - similak child

tipustiger, Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, i forgot moose, shame that their 3rd best album was nominated though.

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

album: Fatboy Slim, On the Floor at the Boutique
single: Beltram, "Energy Flash"

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 29 August 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You're allowed two tracks and two albums, Matos. (Gear changed his mind)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 29 August 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Post by Bjork
Low Birth Weight by Piano Magic

Singles:
Rabbit In Your Headlights by UNKLE feat. Thom Yorke
Wrong French by Piano Magic.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Sunday, 29 August 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums
Curve, 'Pubic Fruit'
American Music Club, 'Mercury'

Singles
New Radicals, 'You Get What You Give'
St. Etienne, 'Like A Motorway'

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums

Cornelius - Fantasma
Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand

Singles

DJ Shadow - High Noon
The Avalanches - Electricity

Mil (Mil), Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxpost:
Begs, T.A.P.O.A.F.O.M gets votes from me.
Underground Angel as single too.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"no itsy bitsy pee wee penis type of pecker poker pusher ever penetratin' the pussAY."

Yeah now that I'm listening to it again, that NEEDS a nomination.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

are you gonna DO IT?!?!?!?!? cause you KNOW I'll be there! so many classic lines! "how'd you get / all you got / into what you ain't wearin' on you?"

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

click on this link to read what I wrote about it on TFM
don't click on it if you hate me, or funk, or love

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's fill in a gap or two here...

ALBUMS?
Th' Faith Healers - Lido
Elliott Smith - Either/Or

SINGLES!
Underworld - King of Snake
Julian Cope - Safesurfer

Dino, Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Dino!

Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Methinks you've mistaken me for another Dino, my last name is Yothers, I have assimmilated myself to an 80's TV icon with a few extreme makeovers.

Or not?

Hello Melissa, Me miss ya!

Have you added your picks to this dense menagerie?

Dino, Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

What, no Throwing Muses? I'm very disapointed. So:

Albums: Throwing Muses - "University"
the Clouds - "Penny Century"

Tracks: no idea for now.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

We should take this to AIM, Konstantinos. Where the hell have ya been?

And yeah, my nominations are up top.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 29 August 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for covering the jungle - anyone wanna try & get a history of our world up there? also MORE GARAGE & ACEN YOU FUXX.

tracks :
sneaker pimps - "spin spin sugar (armand's dark garage mix)"
dem 2 - "destiny (sleepless)"

albums :
LFO - frequencies
speed limit 140bpm+ three : the joint

(did "pure shores" & "bound 4 da reload (casualty)"/"up middle finger" end up on the 00s poll? are they eligible here?)

etc, Sunday, 29 August 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

somebody plz nominate OMC's "how bizarre"!

etc, Sunday, 29 August 2004 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums nominated so far (songs coming shortly):

µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness
2Pac - All Eyez on Me
The 3rd and the Mortal - Tears Laid In Earth
A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
A Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
Able Tasmans - Hey Spinner!
Add N To (X) - Avant Hard
Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen
Air - Moon Safari
American Music Club - Mercury
The Auteurs - How I Learned To Love The Bootboys
Bark Psychosis - Hex
Basement Jaxx - Remedy
Basic Channel - Basic Channel
Beck - Odelay
Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Belle and Sebastian - Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP Box)
Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen
Bjork - Homogenic
Bjork - Post
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Blur – Parklife
The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
Boredoms - Super AE
Brainiac - Hissing Prigs In Static Couture
Carcass - Heartwork
The Chemical Bros. - Dig Your Own Hole
The Chills - Submarine Bells
Clouds - Penny Century
Cornelius - Fantasma
The Coup - Steal This Album
Curve - Pubic Fruit
The Delgados - Peloton
Denim - Back in Denim
Depeche Mode - Violator
De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate
dEUS - In a Bar, Under the Sea
Disco Inferno - DI Go Pop
DJ DB - A History of Our World Vol. 1: Breakbeat and Jungle Ultramix
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Drive Like Jehu - s/t
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
Eels - Electro Shock Blues
En Vogue - Funky Divas
Th'Faith Healers - Lido
Faith No More - Angel Dust
Fatboy Slim - On the Floor at the Boutique
Firewater - Get Off the Cross, We Need the Wood for the Fire
The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin
The Flaming Lips – Zaireeka
Goldie - Timeless
Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep
Ground Zero - Consume Red
Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes
Herbert - Around the House
Jay-Z - Volume 3: The Life and Times of S. Carter
Julee Cruise - Floating into the Night
Kelis - Kaleidescope
Kenickie - At The Club
Killing Joke - Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions
KLF - Chill Out
Kristin Hersh - Hips and Makers
Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess
Leila - Like Weather
LFO - Frequencies
LTJ Bukem Presents Logical Progression Vol. 1
Lycia - The Burning Circle and Then Dust
The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
Mansun - Six
Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos - Muy Divertido
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Masters at Work - Nuyorican Soul
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Moonshake - Eva Luna
Moose - Live a Little, Love a Lot
Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
Mr T Experience - Love Is Dead
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
The Necks - Hanging Garden
Nirvana - In Utero
Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Omni Trio - Vol 1: The Deepest Cut
The Olivia Tremor Control - Black Foliage
Orbital - Brown Album
Orbital - In Sides
Orbital - Snivilization
Palace Brothers - Days in the Wake
Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
Pavement - Crooked Rain Crooked Rain
The Pet Shop Boys - Very
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
Piano Magic - Low Birth Weight
Pizzicato Five - Happy End of the World
Polvo - Exploded Drawing
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Prince - Diamonds and Pearls
The Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Pulp - Different Class
Pulp - His'n'Hers
Radiohead - OK Computer
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Ride - Nowehere
Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand
Sade - Love Deluxe
Saint Etienne - Foxbase Alpha
Saint Etienne - Good Humor
Saint Etienne - So Tough
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
Sloan - One Chord to Another
The Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Elliott Smith - Either/Or
Smog - Red Apple Falls
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Speed Limit 140 BPM + Three: The Joint
Spice Girls - Spice
Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies
Spoon - A Series of Sneaks
Stereolab - Emporer Tomato Ketchup
Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts with Announcements
The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic
Super Furry Animals - Guerilla
Super Furry Animals – Radiator
Supergrass - I Should Coco
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
There's Nothing Wrong with Love - Built to Spill
They Might Be Giants - Flood
Three 6 Mafia - Chapter 2: World Domination
Throwing Muses - University
Tindersticks - Simple Pleasure
Tindersticks - Tindersticks (2nd)
Tricky – Maxinquaye
Underworld - Second Toughest in the Infants
Unrest - Imperial ffrr
Velocity Girl - Simpatico
Warrant - Cherry Pie
Ween - The Mollusk
Weezer - Pinkerton
Whiskeytown - Faithless Street
Wilco - Being There
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang: The 36 Chambers
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 29 August 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Mezzanine, but not Blue Lines. Sheesh. Seriously, can I change my vote?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 29 August 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:

2 Bad Mice - "Bombscare"
2Pac - "Dear Mama"
Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?"
Aaliyah - "One In A Million"
Christina Aguilera - "Genie in a Bottle"
Aimee Mann - "Amateur"
Archers of Loaf - "The Lowest Part is Free"
The Avalanches - "Electricity"
Backstreet Boys - "I Want It That Way"
Bark Psychosis - "A Street Scene"
Basement Jaxx - "Rendez-Vu"
Belle & Sebastian - "Stars of Track and Field"
Belle & Sebastian - "The State I Am In"
Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"
Belvedere Kane - "Never Felt As Good"
The Beta Band - "She's The One"
Björk - "Human Behaviour"
Black Sheep - "Similak Child"
Blackstreet - "No Diggity"
Mary J. Blige - "Real Love"
Blur - "For Tomorrow"
Boredoms - "Super Going"
Catherine Wheel - "Black Metallic"
Cocteau Twins - "Summerhead"
Julian Cope - "Safesurfer"
Cornershop - "Brimful of Asha"
Daft Punk - "Around the World"
Deee-Lite "Groove is in the Heart"
Dem 2 - "Destiny (Sleepless)"
Destiny's Child - "Bills, Bills, Bills"
Dinosaur Jr - "Start Choppin'"
Disco Inferno - "It's A Kid's World"
Disco Inferno - "Love Stepping Out"
Disco Inferno - "Summer's Last Sound"
Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"
DJ Shadow - "High Noon"
Eno / Cale - "Cordoba"
Eyeless In Gaza - "To Cry Mercy"
Fat Pat - "Ghetto Dreams"
Five - "Keep On Moving"
The Future Sound of London - "Papua New Guinea"
Gang Starr - "Mass Appeal"
Geto Boys - "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"
Ginuwine - "Pony"
Guided by Voices - "Game of Pricks"
Ice Cube - "It Was A Good Day"
Ice Cube - "The Nigga You Love To Hate"
Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'"
Jeru the Damaja - "Come Clean"
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - "Full Grown"
Jordan Knight - "Give It To You"
KLF and Tammy Wynette - "Justified and Ancient"
Laika - "Sugar Daddy"
LL Cool J - "Mama Said Knock You Out"
Loro - "Pinback"
Los Fabulousos Cadillacs - "Matador"
Madonna - "Vogue"
Manic Street Preachers - "Stay Beautiful"
Massive Attack - "Karmacoma"
Kylie Minogue - "Better the Devil You Know"
Missy Elliott - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
Monaco - "What Do You Want From Me?"
Montell Jordan - "This is How We Do It"
Mark Morrison - "Return of the Mack"
Mos Def - "Universal Magnetic"
The Mountain Goats - "Going to Georgia"
My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"
My Bloody Valentine - "To Here Knows When"
Nas - "It Ain't Hard to Tell"
Naughty By Nature - "OPP"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"
New Order - "Regret"
New Radicals - "You Get What You Give"
Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Notorious BIG - "Hypnotize"
Notorious BIG - "Juicy"
Notorious BIG f/ Puffy and Ma$e - "Mo Money Mo Prolems"
Notorious BIG - "Things Done Changed"
Ol' Dirty Bastard - "Shimmy Shimmy Ya"
Ol' Dirty Bastard - Brooklyn Zoo
Omni Trio - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"
Orbital - "Belfast"
Orbital - "Chime"
Orbital - "Halcyon"
Orlando - "Contained"
Orlando - "Just for a Second"
Joan Osbourne - "Right Hand Man"
Pepe Braddock - "Deep Burnt"
Piano Magic - "Wrong French"
Pixies - "Alec Eiffel"
Placebo - "Pure Morning"
Portishead - "All Mine"
Portishead - "Sour Times"
Pram - "Chrysalis"
Prince - "Gett Off"
Pulp - "Babies"
Pulp - "Something Changed"
Pulp - "Common People"
Pulp - "Disco 2000"
Quad City DJs - "C'Mon Ride It (The Train)"
R.E.M. - "Losing My Religion"
Radiohead - "Airbag"
Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
Red House Painters - "Have You Forgotten?"
Reel 2 Real - "I Like to Move It"
Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth - "T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You)"
Rocketship - "Your New Boyfriend"
Saint Etienne - "He's on the Phone"
Saint Etienne - "Like a Motorway"
Scarlet - "Independent Love Song"
Sixpence None The Richer - "Kiss Me"
Skeleton Key - "Wide Open"
Sleater-Kinney - "Get Up"
Slowdive - "Allison"
Smashing Pumpkins - "Cherub Rock
Sneaker Pimps - "Spin Spin Sugar (Armand's Dark Garage Mix)"
Snoop Dogg - "Murder Was The Case"
Sonic Youth - "The diamond sea"
Sonic Youth - "Skip Tracer"
Soul Asylum - "Somebody to Shove"
Spinanes - "Hawaian Baby"
Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"
Stereolab - "Crest"
Sugar Ray - "Someday"
Teenage Fanclub - "The Concept"
This Ascension - "August Rain"
TLC - "Creep"
Tom Waits - "Who Are You"
Tony Toni Tone - "If I Had No Loot"
A Tribe Called Quest - "Award Tour"
A Tribe Called Quest - "Electric Relaxation"
Tribe Of Issachar featuring Peter Bouncer - "Junglist"
Tricky - "For Real"
Underworld - "Born Slippy NUXX"
Underworld - "King of Snake"
U.N.K.L.E. f/ Thom Yorke - "Rabbit in Your Headlights"
Utah Saints - "Something Good"
Ricardo Villalobos - "808 the Bassqueen"
Violent Femmes- "I Held Her In My Arms"
Warren G feat. Nate Dogg - "Regulate"
Wu-Tang Clan - "Triumph"
Wu-Tang Clan - "C.R.E.A.M."
Yo La Tengo - "Moby Octopad"
Yo La Tengo - "Tom Courtenay"
Zombie Nation - "Kernkraft 400"

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 29 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

two headed boy- part one or part two?

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 29 August 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

So was Depeche's "Enjoy the Silence" nominated or not?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 August 2004 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Not neccessarily my number ones, but noticeably absent for a 90s poll:

Albums
KD Lang - Ingenue
The Lemonheads - It's a shame about Ray

Tracks
Right Said Fred - I'm too sexy
The Prodigy - Breathe

Amyo, Sunday, 29 August 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope we don't end up with too much mediocre hip hop nominated just to thwart actually pretty good indie

Um...what mediocre hip-hop has been mentioned exactly?

Also...Symplistic you are my hero. And also whoever it was that nominated "Pony." This list actually ain't half bad.

We should really get some KMD nominated here! Black Bastards or Mr Hood.

PS: Remember, we want to push the Geto Boys to number one folks.

PPS: Someone nominate UGK's "One Day" plz plz plz.

djdee2005, Sunday, 29 August 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums
Eve: "Let There Be Eve... Ruff Ryders' First Lady"
Pole: "1"

Singles
Bone Thugs-n-Harmony: "Crossroads"
Snap!: "Rhythm Is a Dancer"


Someone please, please, please nominate "AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted", "Aquemini" (the album) and "Protection" (the single), because I just couldn't.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 29 August 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Will there bea change of vote window? If not, somebody nominate "Your Woman".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 29 August 2004 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear - it looks like you've missed mitch's nomination for the Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld off your list.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 29 August 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I think you missed all his nominations except Aaliyah.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 29 August 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone know when is the deadline for votes?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 29 August 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think he's decided that yet. Do you mean nominations (Friday Sept 10).

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 29 August 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, the nomination deadline.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 29 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

what, still no "Dummy" or "Nevermind"? no "Nuthin' But A G Thang"???? anyway.

ALBUMS:
Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas
The Cardigans - Life

SINGLES:
2Pac - How Do U Want It
Betty Boo - Where Are You Baby?

Mind Taker, Sunday, 29 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Betty Boo - Where Are You Baby?

Nice one.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 29 August 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

you'd think the 90s were awful.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 29 August 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

What does the Belle & Sebastian 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' boxset include?

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Sunday, 29 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was gonna say "One Day" but "Ghetto Dreams" is like THE H-Town anthem though i can't see it getting any votes. It needs some more 2 Pac though. And Michael Jackson "Black Or White".

scg, Sunday, 29 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"enjoy the silence" was not nominated yet

alan r. banana (alanbanana), Sunday, 29 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

What does the Belle & Sebastian 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' boxset include?

Their first three EPs:
1 Dog on Wheels
2 The State I Am In
3 String Bean Jean
4 Belle & Sebastian
5 Lazy Line Painter Jane
6 You Made Me Forget My Dreams
7 Photo Jenny
8 A Century of Elvis
9 A Century of Fakers
10 Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
11 Beautiful
12 Put the Book Back on the Shelf

scott pl. (scott pl.), Sunday, 29 August 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think calling it an album is cheating somewhat, but I'm not in charge.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 29 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, if Gear wants to strike it, that's fine w/me - I can nominate something else (someone else already put forward the piano magic LP I had previously pegged as LLPJ's replacement)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

tracks:
mobb deep - shook ones pt. II
prodigy - posion
albums:
beastie boys - check your head
u2 - achtung baby

karl76, Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

mobb deep - shook ones pt. II

YES

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey someone nominate Ma$e "Feel So Good" plz.

scg, Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm shocked no one had nominated "Shook Ones Pt 2" yet (also where the fuck is "Raving, I'm Raving"!!!)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:


[b]AQUA :: AQUARIUM[/b]

(I'm voting it #1 too, so there).

[b]Happy Mondays :: Pills N Thrills N Bellyaches[/b]


Tracks:

[b]Aqua :: Dr Jones[/b]
[b]White Town :: Your Woman[/b]

Someone please nominate No Good (Start The Dance).

minolta (minolta), Sunday, 29 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

oops, stupid bbcode

minolta (minolta), Sunday, 29 August 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

ALBUMS:
Stereolab, Dots and Loops
Boards of Canada, Music Has the Right to Children


TRACKS:
The Orb, "Little Fluffy Clouds"
Tortoise, "Djed"

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(Track suggestion: "Get Up," Sleater-Kinney)

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a feeling I'm going to regret those nominations soon. (Not that what I nominated isn't worthy, but I'm going to think of thousands more that are equally so.)

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

(Yeah, like: another track suggestion: "Forgot About Dre," Dr. Dre ft. Eminem)

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

(I should really wait until the last minute, shouldn't I?)

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think these have been done:

Albums

"The K&D Sessions" - Kruder and Dorfmiester
"Experience" - The Prodigy

Singles (takin it back to the old skool)

"Far Out" - Sonz of a Loop Da Loop Era
"Trip II the Moon (Part III)" - ACEN

Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, this will do for now:

Albums
PJ Harvey - Dry
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Volume 2

Tracks
Ride - Close My Eyes
Boards of Canada - Turquoise Hexagon Sun

I'll probably have another go under a false name before the deadline. I know it's cheating, but you'll never catch me, NEVER!

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

songz: sonic youth - wish fulfillment, pearl jam - smile

albumz: neutral milk hotel - in the aeroplane over the sea (just in case no one else is going to do it.)and charalambides - market square

Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums: Telescopes - Telescopes (the album on Creation)
Portishead - Dummy

Tracks: Happy Mondays - kinky afro
Daft Punk - Da Funk

jesper, Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I was really, really hoping no one would nominate Neutral Milk Hotel. Oh well.

Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

going to regret rushing this...

albums -

moodymann - a silent introduction
oval - 94 diskont

tracks -

isolee - beau mot plage
dead dred - dread bass

a, Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Beau Mot Plage is a great one.

djdee2005, Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Victor Manuelle: A Pesar de Todo
Boredoms: Chocolate Synthesizer

Tracks (Singles):

Grupo Niche: "Cielo de Tambores"
Carlos Vives: "Fruta Fresca"

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(There's more variety there than you might think, since the Vives song is not salsa but, I think, vallenato.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Old 97's Wreck Your Life
Mazzy Star, She Hangs Brightly

Tracks:
Heavens To Betsy, "My Red Self"
Mazzy Star, "Fade Into You"


Recommendation:
Fiona Apple, "Criminal"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc, SK's "Get Up" has already been nominated.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, nice!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I say, replace it with anything from Dig Me Out!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 29 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I say, you're wrong, good sir!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Pistols at dawn then, man!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 29 August 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"Everlong" - The Foo Fighters
"Hey Jealousy" - Gin Blossoms

Nominations
Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five
1965 - Afghan Whigs

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Sunday, 29 August 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh awesome. Thanks for the Foo Fighters nomination, Kenny.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 29 August 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone nominate "desperately wanting" by BETTER THAN EZRA, please?

Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 29 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Or ALANIS MORISSETTE'S "YOU OUGHTA KNOW"?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 30 August 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Grifters - Crappin' You Negative
Jesus Lizard - Liar

Singles:
Superchunk - "Slack Motherfucker"
Shellac - "Doris"

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 30 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I was really, really hoping no one would nominate Neutral Milk Hotel. Oh well.

Hah, you and I both.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 30 August 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Tactical nominations:


Albums
Aphex Twin - SAW 85-92
i-F - "Mixed up in the Hague"

Singles
Hyper-on Experience - "Lords of the null lines"
Unique 3 - "The theme"

Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 30 August 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

HURRAH

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 August 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

OK heres my tracks:

Swervedriver - "Never Lose that Feeling"
Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 30 August 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(are we still only allowed 2 albums, 2 songs? cus the other thread has people listing tons of stuff so Im a bit confused)

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 30 August 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

teh other thread is for suggestions not nominations. there will be no deviation from the set rules and as you can see I have ruled with an iron fist, excepting the half-dozen rule changes thus far.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear!, make sure Los Fabulosos Cadillacs is spelled correctly

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 30 August 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

also tell your soon-to-be-ex-roommate to call me

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 30 August 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

you treat her right, now

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

THANK YOU TRAYCE

God, I thought no one was gonna nominate Unfinished Sympathy, and if it hadn't have happened I would have blown up ILX.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 August 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

albums- morning glory, oasis
the score, the fugees

songs born slippy, underworld
no distance left to run, blur

Daz, Monday, 30 August 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I already nominated Born Slippy.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 August 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(pick Jumbo)

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 August 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

A-The Fall "The Infotainment Scan"
Scott Walker "Tilt"

T-Royal Trux "I'm Ready"
Kyuss "El Rodeo"

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 30 August 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

ok then, not born slippy so,

i know by jude.

thks for letting me know. i'll dance at yo wedding.

Daz, Monday, 30 August 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

SINGLES
VANILLA ICE - ICE ICE BABY
PUFF DADDY - I'LL BE MISSING YOU

ALBUMS
ACE OF BASE - THE SIGN
STONE TEMPLE PILOTS - PURPLE

mr. majistico, Monday, 30 August 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

np, man.
xpost

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 August 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Beck - Midnite Vultures
Green Day - Dookie

Singles:
Folk Implosion - "Natural One"
Tricky - "Christiansands"

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 30 August 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

TRACKS
Love Inc. - R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
Atlantic Ocean - Waterfall


LP'S
Paperclip People - Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich
Utah Saints - Utah Saints

uh huh, Monday, 30 August 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

second album: Luna, Penthouse
second single: The House Crew, "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 30 August 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I was suprised "Sympathy" wasnt in there yet, even tho other Massive stuff was.

I know I'm going to wonder why I missed some really important obvious track later. But many I wanted (the Coc's "Summerhead" especially) have been done so its all good.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 30 August 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

PLEASE change my album nom. for Curve, 'Pubic Fruit' to the Lilac Time, 'Astronauts'. thanks so much!

suggestion: please add some Curve, folks!

derrick (derrick), Monday, 30 August 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:-
Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness"
The Verve "A Northern Soul"

Tracks:-
My Bloody Valentine "When You Sleep"
Stereolab "French Disko"

Neil FC (Neil FC), Monday, 30 August 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh nice MBV choice there Neil.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 30 August 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

second single: The House Crew, "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"

HERO

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 August 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

*Sigh* Albums:

Cornelius - Fantasma
The Dust Brothers - Fight Club

Singles:

Urban Cookie Collective - 'The Key, The Secret'
Pizzaman - 'Trippin' On Sunshine'

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 30 August 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Full-lengths:

Gza - Liquid Swords
Mr. Bungle - California

Itty bitty ditties:

Bjork "Hyperballad"
Talvin Singh ft. Amar "Jaan"

xpost look up there 'Rima somebody besides you or me already nominated Fantasma ha ha

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums I hope don't NOT get nominated simply because I didn't: Goodie Mob - Still Standing, Outkast - Aquemini, They Might Be Giants - Flood, Roni Size - Reprazent, Soul Coughing - Ruby Vroom, Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonacologyst, thx k bye.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you for noticing that i wasn't noticed, alba. i think my name is too small.

//\/\{..**m**..}/\/\\ (mitchlnw), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Depeche Mode - "Enjoy the Silence" (there!)
Underworld - "Jumbo"

Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I (I hope people out there still like this?)
Pet Shop Boys - Behaviour

Whoa great noms nickalicious.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Dog Faced Hermans - Those Deep Buds
Omoide Hatoba - Black Hawaii

Singles:

Cypress Hill - "Hand on the Pump"
Vengaboys - "We Like To Party"

o. nate (onate), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

PJ Harvey *To Bring You My Love*
David Thomas *Meadville*

Singles:

Beck "Loser"
Eminem "My Name Is"

Not That Chuck, Monday, 30 August 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Those of you who're keeping score, I note that I misspelled Joan Osborne's name. If that keeps anyone from voting for her, I am sorry.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, thank GOD somebody else nominated Fantasma (Cornelius didn't show up during my ctrl+f search, but nevermind), I was afraid of becoming a bigger cliche. I'll think up something else during lunch (as in something other people would vote for). Or maybe I should choose CM instead...

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

If I thought about this it would be impossible, so I won't.

ALBUMS

A Certain Smile, A Certain Sadness - Rocketship
Tigermilk - Belle & Sebastian

TRACKS

Dancing In Your Eyes - The Magnetic Fields
You're Gorgeous - Babybird

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 30 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Lambchop - How I Quit Smoking
DJ Quik - Quik is the Name

Songs:
Guided By Voices - Echos Myron
Magnetic Fields - No One Will Ever Love You

Asthmatic Cajun (Asthmatic Cajun), Monday, 30 August 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

TRACKS:

destiny's child - say my name

yo la tengo - autumn sweater


ALBUMS:

don lennon - maniac

pinback - pinback

RJG (RJG), Monday, 30 August 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

RJ, Destiny's was done in this decade's poll, nevermind this decade.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 30 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah - but that was wrong! The Writing's On The Wall cam out in Summer 99. It's time to right the wrong and make 'Say My Name' the only song to feature on both lists.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Gorky's Zygotic Mynci: Barafundle
Kyuss: Welcome To Sky Valley

Tracks:

Boo Radleys: Lazarus
Autechre: Arch Carrier

Suggestions for albums:

Plaid: Restproof Clockwork;
Autechre: LP5;
Aphex Twin: Come To Daddy;
Pearl Jam: Vs;
Squarepusher: Hard Normal Daddy;
Boo Radleys: Wake Up!;
Tom Waits: Bone Machine

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)
The "Say My Name" single only came out in 2000 though, so depending if we're doing tracks or singles, both could be right.

Seb (Seb), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd always thought the general rule on these things was to take the year of a track's first appearance. Otherwise, 'Yesterday' becomes eligible for the best of 1976 or whatever.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

this poll is gonna stick but i will have the sweet, sweet feeling of moral superiority for not having voted for nirvana/mbv/etc.

amatteur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Autechre - LP5
Propagandhi - Less Talk More Rock
Tracks:
The Cure - Letter To Elise
Aphex Twin - Xtal

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"Say my Name" has had it's due, pick something else.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't listen to him!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's the updated list as of 11:05 AM PT (anyone who wants to doublecheck to make sure I got their noms, please do!)

µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness
2Pac - All Eyez on Me
The 3rd and the Mortal - Tears Laid In Earth
A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
A Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
Able Tasmans - Hey Spinner!
Ace of Base - The Sign
Add N To (X) - Avant Hard
Afghan Whigs – Gentlemen
Afghan Whigs - 1965
Air - Moon Safari
American Music Club – Mercury
Aphex Twin – Selected Ambient Works Vol II
Aphex Twin - SAW 85-92
Aqua – Aquarium
Autechre - LP5
The Auteurs - How I Learned To Love The Bootboys
Bark Psychosis - Hex
Basement Jaxx - Remedy
Basic Channel - Basic Channel
Beastie Boys – Check Your Head
Beck - Midnite Vultures
Beck - Odelay
Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Belle and Sebastian - Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP Box)
Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk
Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five
Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen
Bjork - Homogenic
Bjork - Post
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Blur – Parklife
Boards of Canada – Music Has the Right to Children
The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
Boredoms: Chocolate Synthesizer
Boredoms - Super AE
Brainiac - Hissing Prigs In Static Couture
Carcass – Heartwork
The Cardigans – Life
The Charlambides – Market Square
The Chemical Bros. - Dig Your Own Hole
The Chills - Submarine Bells
Clouds - Penny Century
Cocteau Twins – Heaven or Las Vegas
Cornelius - Fantasma
The Coup - Steal This Album
Curve - Pubic Fruit
The Delgados - Peloton
Denim - Back in Denim
Depeche Mode - Violator
De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate
dEUS - In a Bar, Under the Sea
Disco Inferno - DI Go Pop
Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I
DJ DB - A History of Our World Vol. 1: Breakbeat and Jungle Ultramix
DJ Quik - Quik is the Name
DJ Shadow – Endtroducing
Dog Faced Hermans - Those Deep Buds
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Drive Like Jehu - s/t
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
The Dust Brothers - Fight Club
Eels - Electro Shock Blues
En Vogue - Funky Divas
Eve – Let There Be Eve….Ruff Ryders’ First Lady
Th'Faith Healers - Lido
Faith No More - Angel Dust
The Fall "The Infotainment Scan"
Fatboy Slim - On the Floor at the Boutique
Firewater - Get Off the Cross, We Need the Wood for the Fire
The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin
The Flaming Lips – Zaireeka
The Fugees – The Score
Goldie – Timeless
Gorky's Zygotic Mynci: Barafundle
Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep
Green Day - Dookie
The Grifters - Crappin' You Negative
Ground Zero - Consume Red
Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes
Gza - Liquid Swords
Happy Mondays – Pills n Thrills n Bellyaches
PJ Harvey – Dry
PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
Herbert - Around the House
i-F - Mixed up in the Hague
Jay-Z - Volume 3: The Life and Times of S. Carter
Jesus Lizard - Liar
Julee Cruise - Floating into the Night
Kelis - Kaleidescope
Kenickie - At The Club
Killing Joke - Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions
KLF - Chill Out
Kristin Hersh - Hips and Makers
Kruder and Dorfmeister – The K&D Sessions
Kyuss: Welcome To Sky Valley
Lambchop - How I Quit Smoking
K.D. Lang - Ingenue
Leila - Like Weather
The Lemonheads – It’s A Shame About Ray
don lennon - maniac
LFO – Frequencies
The Lilac Time - Astronauts
LTJ Bukem Presents Logical Progression Vol. 1
Luna - Penthouse
Lycia - The Burning Circle and Then Dust
The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
Mansun – Six
Victor Manuelle: A Pesar de Todo
Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos - Muy Divertido
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Masters at Work - Nuyorican Soul
Mazzy Star, She Hangs Brightly
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Moodymann – A Silent Introduction
Moonshake - Eva Luna
Moose - Live a Little, Love a Lot
Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
Mr. Bungle - California
Mr T Experience - Love Is Dead
My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
Nas - Illmatic
The Necks - Hanging Garden
Neutral Milk Hotel – In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Nirvana - In Utero
Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Oasis – What’s the Story Morning Glory
Old 97's Wreck Your Life
The Olivia Tremor Control - Black Foliage
Omni Trio - Vol 1: The Deepest Cut
Omoide Hatoba - Black Hawaii
The Orb – The Orb’s Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
Orbital - Brown Album
Orbital - In Sides
Orbital – Snivilization
Oval – 94 Diskont
Palace Brothers - Days in the Wake
Paperclip People - Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich
Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
Pavement - Crooked Rain Crooked Rain
Pet Shop Boys - Behaviour
Pet Shop Boys - Very
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
Piano Magic - Low Birth Weight
pinback - pinback
Pizzicato Five - Happy End of the World
Pole - 1
Polvo - Exploded Drawing
Portishead - Dummy
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Prince - Diamonds and Pearls
The prodigy - Experience
The Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation
Propagandhi - Less Talk More Rock
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Pulp - Different Class
Pulp - His'n'Hers
Radiohead - OK Computer
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Ride – Nowehere
Rocketship - A Certain Smile, A Certain Sadness
Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand
Sade - Love Deluxe
Saint Etienne - Foxbase Alpha
Saint Etienne - Good Humor
Saint Etienne - So Tough
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
Sloan - One Chord to Another
Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness
The Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Elliott Smith - Either/Or
Smog - Red Apple Falls
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Speed Limit 140 BPM + Three: The Joint
Spice Girls - Spice
Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies
Spoon - A Series of Sneaks
Stereolab - Emporer Tomato Ketchup
Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts with Announcements
Stereolab – Dots and Loops
Stone Temple Pilots - Purple
The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic
Super Furry Animals - Guerilla
Super Furry Animals – Radiator
Supergrass - I Should Coco
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
Teenage Fanclub – Bandwagonesque
Telescopes - Telescopes
There's Nothing Wrong with Love - Built to Spill
They Might Be Giants – Flood
David Thomas - Meadville
Three 6 Mafia - Chapter 2: World Domination
Throwing Muses - University
Tindersticks - Simple Pleasure
Tindersticks - Tindersticks (2nd)
Tricky – Maxinquaye
Underworld - Second Toughest in the Infants
Unrest - Imperial ffrr
Utah Saints - Utah Saints
U2 – Achtung Baby
Velocity Girl – Simpatico
The Verve - A Northern Soul
Scott Walker - Tilt
Warrant - Cherry Pie
Ween - The Mollusk
Weezer - Pinkerton
Whiskeytown - Faithless Street
Wilco - Being There
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang: The 36 Chambers
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One



Tracks:

Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?"
Aaliyah - "One In A Million"
ACEN _ “Trip II the Moon (Part III)
Christina Aguilera - "Genie in a Bottle"
Aimee Mann - "Amateur"
Aphex Twin - Xtal
Aqua – “Dr Jones”
Archers of Loaf - "The Lowest Part is Free"
Atlantic Ocean – Waterfall
Autechre: Arch Carrier
The Avalanches - "Electricity"
Babybird – You’re Gorgeous
Backstreet Boys - "I Want It That Way"
Bark Psychosis - "A Street Scene"
Basement Jaxx - "Rendez-Vu"
Beck - "Loser"
Belle & Sebastian - "Stars of Track and Field"
Belle & Sebastian - "The State I Am In"
Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"
Belvedere Kane - "Never Felt As Good"
The Beta Band - "She's The One"
Betty Boo – “Where Are You Baby?”
Björk - "Human Behaviour"
Bjork "Hyperballad"
Black Sheep - "Similak Child"
Blackstreet - "No Diggity"
Mary J. Blige - "Real Love"
Blur - "For Tomorrow"
Blur – “No Distance Left To Run”
Boards of Canada – “Turquoise Hexagon Sun”
Bone Thugs-n Harmony – “Tha Crossroads”
Boo Radleys: Lazarus
Boredoms - "Super Going"
Catherine Wheel - "Black Metallic"
Cocteau Twins - "Summerhead"
Julian Cope - "Safesurfer"
Cornershop - "Brimful of Asha"
The Cure - Letter To Elise
Cypress Hill - "Hand on the Pump"
Daft Punk - "Around the World"
Daft Punk – “Da Funk”
Dead Dred – “Dread Bass”
Deee-Lite "Groove is in the Heart"
Dem 2 - "Destiny (Sleepless)"
Depeche Mode - "Enjoy the Silence"
Destiny's Child - "Bills, Bills, Bills"
destiny's child - say my name
Dinosaur Jr - "Start Choppin'"
Disco Inferno - "It's A Kid's World"
Disco Inferno - "Love Stepping Out"
Disco Inferno - "Summer's Last Sound"
Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"
DJ Shadow - "High Noon"
Eminem - "My Name Is"
Eno / Cale - "Cordoba"
Eyeless In Gaza - "To Cry Mercy"
Fat Pat - "Ghetto Dreams"
Five - "Keep On Moving"
Folk Implosion - "Natural One"
The Foo Fighters - "Everlong"
The Future Sound of London - "Papua New Guinea"
Gang Starr - "Mass Appeal"
Geto Boys - "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"
Gin Blossoms – “Hey Jealousy”
Ginuwine - "Pony"
Grupo Niche: "Cielo de Tambores"
Guided by Voices - "Game of Pricks"
Guided By Voices - Echos Myron
Happy Mondays – “Kinky Afro”
Heavens To Betsy, "My Red Self"
The House Crew, "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"
Hyper-on Experience - "Lords of the null lines"
Ice Cube - "It Was A Good Day"
Ice Cube - "The Nigga You Love To Hate"
Isolee - “Beau Mot Plage”
Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'"
Jeru the Damaja - "Come Clean"
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - "Full Grown"
Jordan Knight - "Give It To You"
Jude – “I Know”
KLF and Tammy Wynette - "Justified and Ancient"
Kyuss "El Rodeo"
Laika - "Sugar Daddy"
LL Cool J - "Mama Said Knock You Out"
Loro - "Pinback"
Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - "Matador"
Love Inc. - R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
Madonna - "Vogue"
The Magnetic Fields – Dancing In Your Eyes
Magnetic Fields - No One Will Ever Love You
Manic Street Preachers - "Stay Beautiful"
Massive Attack - "Karmacoma"
Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"
Mazzy Star, "Fade Into You"
Kylie Minogue - "Better the Devil You Know"
Missy Elliott - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
Mobb Deep – Shook Ones Pt II
Monaco - "What Do You Want From Me?"
Montell Jordan - "This is How We Do It"
Mark Morrison - "Return of the Mack"
Mos Def - "Universal Magnetic"
The Mountain Goats - "Going to Georgia"
My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"
My Bloody Valentine - "To Here Knows When"
My Bloody Valentine "When You Sleep"
Nas - "It Ain't Hard to Tell"
Naughty By Nature - "OPP"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"
New Order - "Regret"
New Radicals - "You Get What You Give"
Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Notorious BIG - "Hypnotize"
Notorious BIG - "Juicy"
Notorious BIG f/ Puffy and Ma$e - "Mo Money Mo Prolems"
Notorious BIG - "Things Done Changed"
Ol' Dirty Bastard - "Shimmy Shimmy Ya"
Ol' Dirty Bastard - Brooklyn Zoo
Omni Trio - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"
The Orb – Little Fluffy Clouds
Orbital - "Belfast"
Orbital - "Chime"
Orbital - "Halcyon"
Orlando - "Contained"
Orlando - "Just for a Second"
Joan Osbourne - "Right Hand Man"
Pearl Jam – “Smile”
Pepe Braddock - "Deep Burnt"
Piano Magic - "Wrong French"
Pixies - "Alec Eiffel"
Pizzaman - 'Trippin' On Sunshine'
Placebo - "Pure Morning"
Portishead - "All Mine"
Portishead - "Sour Times"
Pram - "Chrysalis"
Prince - "Gett Off"
The Prodigy – Breathe
The Prodigy – Poison
Puff Daddy - "I'll Be Missing You"
Pulp - "Babies"
Pulp - "Something Changed"
Pulp - "Common People"
Pulp - "Disco 2000"
Quad City DJs - "C'Mon Ride It (The Train)"
R.E.M. - "Losing My Religion"
Radiohead - "Airbag"
Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
Red House Painters - "Have You Forgotten?"
Reel 2 Real - "I Like to Move It"
Ride – “Close My Eyes”
Right Said Fred – “I’m Too Sexy”
Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth - "T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You)"
Rocketship - "Your New Boyfriend"
Royal Trux "I'm Ready"
Saint Etienne - "He's on the Phone"
Saint Etienne - "Like a Motorway"
Scarlet - "Independent Love Song"
Shellac - "Doris"
Talvin Singh ft. Amar - "Jaan"
Sixpence None The Richer - "Kiss Me"
Skeleton Key - "Wide Open"
Sleater-Kinney - "Get Up"
Slowdive - "Allison"
Smashing Pumpkins - "Cherub Rock”
Snap – “Rhythm Is A Dancer”
Sneaker Pimps - "Spin Spin Sugar (Armand's Dark Garage Mix)"
Snoop Dogg - "Murder Was The Case"
Sonic Youth - "The diamond sea"
Sonic Youth - "Skip Tracer"
Sonic Youth – “Wish Fulfillment”
Sonz of a Loop Da Loop Era – “Far Out”
Soul Asylum - "Somebody to Shove"
Spinanes - "Hawaian Baby"
Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"
Stereolab - "Crest"
Stereolab - "French Disko"
Sugar Ray - "Someday"
Superchunk - "Slack Motherfucker"
Swervedriver - "Never Lose that Feeling"
Teenage Fanclub - "The Concept"
This Ascension - "August Rain"
TLC - "Creep"
Tom Waits - "Who Are You"
Tony Toni Tone - "If I Had No Loot"
Tortoise, "Djed"
A Tribe Called Quest - "Award Tour"
A Tribe Called Quest - "Electric Relaxation"
Tribe Of Issachar featuring Peter Bouncer - "Junglist"
Tricky - "Christiansands"
Tricky - "For Real"
2 Bad Mice - "Bombscare"
2pac – “How Do You Want It?”
2Pac - "Dear Mama"
Underworld - "Born Slippy NUXX"
Underworld - "Jumbo"
Underworld - "King of Snake"
Unique 3 - "The theme"
U.N.K.L.E. f/ Thom Yorke - "Rabbit in Your Headlights"
Urban Cookie Collective - 'The Key, The Secret'
Utah Saints - "Something Good"
Vanilla Ice - "Ice Ice Baby"
Vengaboys - "We Like To Party"
Ricardo Villalobos - "808 the Bassqueen"
Violent Femmes- "I Held Her In My Arms"
Carlos Vives: "Fruta Fresca"
Warren G feat. Nate Dogg - "Regulate"
White Town – “Your Woman”
Wu-Tang Clan - "Triumph"
Wu-Tang Clan - "C.R.E.A.M."
Yo La Tengo - "Autumn Sweater"
Yo La Tengo - "Moby Octopad"
Yo La Tengo - "Tom Courtenay"
Zombie Nation - "Kernkraft 400"

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It's interesting to see which tracks will be weeded out and which will reach the top 100. I'm guessing more people will be voting this time.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear! - there was a valid ? about whether my nom of the B&S LLPJ EP set should count, so can I plz strike that and replace it with Destiny's Child, The Writing's on the Wall? (apologies for the bother)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

it shall be stricken from the record!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

BOOMANIA Gear! x

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

added!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:
XTC - Apple Venus, Vol 1
Ruins - Hydermastgroningem

tracks:
Britney Spears - "Baby One More Time"
Jeff Buckley - "Hallelujah"

dleone (dleone), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I was even thinking of nominating Santana's "Smooth," but I know how much Supernatural is hated around here, and anyway, there were more interesting things to suggest (with the only drawback that practically no one will have heard them).

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(Sorry I meant that for the recommendations thread.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

alright.

Albums:
Amon Tobin - Permutation
Brainiac - Bonsai Superstar

Tracks:
Dismemberment Plan - "The City"
Ol' Dirty Bastard - "Got Your Money"

I'd just like to ask, of all the Dismemberment Plan tracks to nominate '00-'04, how the fuck was "Face of the Earth" the only one to show up on the list? I mean it's (sort of) a good song, and (maybe) deserved to be nominated, but c'mon!

lemin (lemin), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there was only one D.Plan full-length from '00-'04, and it's the opening track and a pretty good one, I think.

Which track from Change would you have nominated instead?

Or would you have nominated the overrated "Dismemberment Plan Gets Rich"?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Ultramarine - Every Man And Woman Is A Star
Various (mixed by Blu Peter) - Reactivate 10: Snappy Cracklepop Techno

Songs:
TQ - "Westside"
The Breeders - "Cannonball"

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"Cannonball" is a good choice.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear, just so you know, I'm keeping a running record of what's been nominated, so you don't have to if you don't want to.

Someone please nominate "Web in Front" and "Loaded".

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I would've much rather seen "Gets Rich" on the list than "Face of the Earth". Personally I believe that both that song and "Crush" off of the Juno split ep are better than "Face of the Earth". But the real omission was "Time Bomb", by far the most successful song on the album. I mean it's not a bad song by any means, but "Time Bomb" is so much better.

Also, it wasn't the opening track, that would be "Sentimental Man". (just to be nitpicky)

lemin (lemin), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm totally blotting to undermine all the corny indie choices somehow

amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Jackson - Dangerous (see, someone's gotta represent for Teddy Riley and also, fuck hating)
The Dust Brothers - Fight Club

Singles:

Urban Cookie Collective - 'The Key, The Secret'
Pizzaman - 'Trippin' On Sunshine'

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

blotting hm

amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear/Dr. Bill/whoever is keeping track: Loro - "Pinback" is backwards -> Pinback - "Loro". Also I can't believe it took so long for "Baby One More Time" to show up.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Built to Spill -- There's Nothing Wrong With Love is also backwards. (If someone will nominate either "The Humpty Dance" or "Protect Ya Neck," I'll take care of the other one.)

chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

ah very good, good Dr, much appreciated.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Ween - GodWeenSatan
American Music Club - Mercury

Songs:
Allen Clapp - "Something Strange Happens"
Velocity Girl - "My Forgotten Favorite"

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know what to think about no R.E.M. album having being nominated.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Awesome!"?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

But given some of the stuff that has been, possibly not.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know what to think about no Bel Biv Devoe album being nominated.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know what to think about the fact that people are threatening to invent lurker names to get more nominations.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

album - out of time REM

i was gonna wait until i had the rest of my nominations figured out, but now's as good a time as any for this one

danh (danh), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

NO, NOT THAT ONE.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

EJECT
EJECT

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

So, nobody likes Exile in Guyville anymore?

chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

YES. THAT ONE.

danh (danh), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm, I think I was thinking of "Sentimental Man" when I voted for "Face of the Earth"! (Don't worry, I only gave it 1 point.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER? MONSTER, UP? COME ON, PLEASE. LET"S BE SERIOUS HERE

danh (danh), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

In the Woods - Omnio
1997
[the finest art-rock album of the 90s: atmospheric drenched rock taken to it's absolute sonic psychedelic limits.]

The Young Gods - Only Heaven
1995
[the most outstanding overall album of the 90s: defined everything of my 90s experience: ambient, techno, metal, electronics, post-rock, post-industrial into an intoxicating package of sounds.]

Singles:

Hardfloor - Acperience
[This track was unleashed late 1992, and was a massive trax throughout 1993 - you instantly recognise it - the build up into a vortex of acidic distortion and effects.]

Leftfield - Open Up
[The Voice of Post-Punk Lydon meets the 90s dancefloor brit house beats: a monster of a trax: a distinctive decade defining moment. Sounded great everywhere: TV, radio, dancefloor, travelling or at home.]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Automatic > Out of Time > Monster > Adventure > Up

(I think. Maybe Monster and Adventures should be reversed, but it's been almost a decade since I heard either. )

chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Zaxxon, that AMC album has already been nominated.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Spooky mind-meld: I was just thinking "Damn, wish I'd nominated Hardfloor - Acperience" - and now someone just has. DJ Martian, I kiss you.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Album: Midi Maxi and Efti, *Midi Maxi and Efti*
Single: OMC, "How Bizarre"

I don't know if these are my favorites, per se', but they are the first ones that come to mind. Somebody should definitely nominite *El Silencio* by Caifanes and "King Kong Five" by Mano Negra, though.

chuck, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

you get 2 noms each, CE!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Really??? Wow, okay. That Caifanes album and Mano Negra single, then!!


(Though actually, "El Matador" by Los Fab Cadillacs came to mind before "How Bizarre," but somebody had already nominated that one.)

chuck, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah Barima you are the greatest man ever! (I speak of the Dangerous nomination, of course)

Also:

i'm totally blotting to undermine all the corny indie choices somehow

ha ha how cool would it be if all it took to undermine the corny indie was to DROP ACID

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dude, I just realized something really IMPORTANT!...if you just stare at the page and concentrate really hard, you can totally make OK Computer transform into THE CHRONIC! Woah."

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Hardfloor - Acperience

Nice one, DJM!

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

nickalicious you are a reat

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

we need more adult pop

amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

What IS stopping any of us from making multiple nominations under a series of fake names? How do we know this isn't happening? Ditto with the actual voting. I know that required a real email, the way it was done before, but I have four working email addresses, and it wouldn't be at all hard to create more, of course.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

What is adult pop?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno. shania twain and sade and stuff. couldn't think of a batter name for it.

amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

albums
terrorvision - how to make friends and influence people
radiohead - the bends

tracks
belle and sebastian - string bean jean
magnetic fields - the luckiest guy on the lower east side

ken c (ken c), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Foolish vestiges of morality, Martin.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

What IS stopping any of us from making multiple nominations under a series of fake names? How do we know this isn't happening? Ditto with the actual voting. I know that required a real email, the way it was done before, but I have four working email addresses, and it wouldn't be at all hard to create more, of course.

cheating the votes for an ilm poll would be a little bit sad though..

ken c (ken c), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

like.. woo! "slipknot - 742617000027" made it as the ilm top single! woot!

actually.. hey!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:

Nirvana - Drain You
Meshuggah - New Millennium Cyanide Christ

Albums:

Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Auechre - Tri Repetae

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

gear would you kill me if i changed two of my nominations? let me know if you don't want people doing this, but if it's ok... i'll change them tomorrow or wednesday. thanks.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Automatic > Out of Time > Monster > Adventure > Up

Geez. Out of time is just so not good. "Me In Honey" resuces it, but New Adventures in Hi-Fi is their best of the decade. Pleeez, someone nominate it...

frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

you can do that, Amateurist

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Jackson - Dangerous (see, someone's gotta represent for Teddy Riley and also, fuck hating)

I've some rather significant love for whomever volunteered this. Same for Mr. ...Baby One More Time.

And as a side note, I will be incredibly disappointed if this list becomes dominated by REM.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

rocketship nominated for album and single, very exciting. that means he'll get maybe two votes now!

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I will be incredibly disappointed if this list becomes dominated by REM

I will, as well. Their post-80s output has been nothing like the pre-. But if New Adventures is the only album to show, I'll be happy.

frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

NAIHF is the only R.E.M. album that doesn't sound aged/generic.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Why would you be dissapointed in peoples nominations. I mean this are records they like, right? Who gives a shit.

danh (danh), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums

Ween - Pure Guava
Fiona Apple - When The Pawn

No tracks yet, but I'll have them soon I hope.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"these" it's late.

danh (danh), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Why's it always only the indie thats "corny" and gets ragged on here all the damn time? Ya bunch of sods.

PS Nickalish someone did already nom TMBGs "Flood" and if they hadntve, I bloody would have!

In fact why didnt I nom "Mink Car"? Wah. Oh well.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Ultramarine - Every Man And Woman Is A Star

Yay, I was hoping someone would nominate this! Thanks Mike! And Barima, "The Key, The Secret" has already been nominated, you can vote for one single more.

I'm still disappointed "Aquemini" (both the album and the single) and "Protection" (the single, the album isn't that good) aren't on the list.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 07:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:
The KLF: "Last Train to Trancentral"
Magnetic Fields: "100,000 Fireflies"

Albums:
Saint Etienne: Tiger Bay
Turbonegro: Ass Cobra

OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

God. I was actually biting my nails in hopes that none of the albums and songs I was going to nominate were going to be taken already. Luckily, I only had to switch out one of the singles I'd settled on. :) So here goes....

Albums:
Duran Duran, Medazzaland
The Cure, Bloodflowers

Singles:
Blur, "Parklife"
Suede, "Film Star"

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

this is turning out okay - i'm relieved to see several of my potential noms have already been covered...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The KLF: "Last Train to Trancentral"

Fiona Apple - When The Pawn

Bill & OleM - I love you.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ole M - I also love you for nominating Tiger Bay, which would have been my only definite choice..
That's going to be a very split Saint Etienne vote, so I'm hesitant to do this, but..

The Fieldmice - Where'd you learn to kiss that way?

Saint Etienne - Continental

Songs:

The Pastels - Speeding Motorcycle

Saint Etienne - You're In A Bad Way

I'm sure I'll change my mind in half an hour.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fieldmice - Where'd you learn to kiss that way?

Are best ofs allowed? Esp when it's not even all 90s stuff?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Cure, Bloodflowers
-- Many Coloured Halo (newromanti...), August 31st, 2004 4:39 AM. (later)

Wait, "Bloodflowers" is from 2000. Unless you think it should count because the album was finished in 1999 and they waited a year to release it ...

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fieldmice - Where'd you learn to kiss that way?
Are best ofs allowed? Esp when it's not even all 90s stuff?

I don't know...you tell me!
I can easily think of something else to go there.

In fact, if I can't have that: Galaxie 500 - On Fire

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

The Afghan Whigs - Black Love
Jeru The Damaja - Wrath Of The Math

Tracks:

Raekwon feat. Ghostface Killah & Nas - 'Verbal Intercourse'
Manic Street Preachers - 'Faster' (fuck haters!)

Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

'On Fire' was 1989! I'm all about the obstacles. Gear - can you adjudicate?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmph...

One Dove - Morning Dove White.

THAT must have been 1990s, surely..

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact, even if the others are allowed, I'll go for that one.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

That's settled then. I never heard that album. I remember lots of fuss about it and then the chatter moved on.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, it was lovely. Beautiful, breezy pop, with nice peculiar wibbly bits (note use of Technical Term there..) thrown in. Very different from Saint Etienne, but I like it for a lot of the same reasons.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I've some rather significant love for whomever volunteered this.

*Resists urge to transform into VengaDan Perry*

Can I offer you a bite of my Chocotaco?

*FUCK!*

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, thanks, NZA.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:

Exile in Guyville -- Liz Phair
The Singles -- Bikini KIll

tracks:

The Humpty Dance -- Digital Underground
No Time to Cry -- Iris Dement

Observations:

1. I can't fucking believe "The Humpty Dance" hasn't been nominated yet.

2. I think these days I probably like Whitechocolatespaceegg better, but Exile can't be left off a 90s list.

3. Okay, will someone PLEASE nominate "Protect Ya Neck"?

chris herrington (chris herrington), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

gah, this is difficult. i'm going with some of my fave stuff that i think otherwise won't get mentioned

albums:
Mekon - Welcome to Tackletown
Cocteau Twins - Four Calendar Cafe

tracks:
The Hit Parade - Autobiography
Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring

man i've changed between Being Boring and So Hard so many times that i'm not even sure which one to put, but since someone above mentioned So Hard as an alternate, i'll assume there's a better chance of it getting mentioned in the future

also, the fact that i don't have a Blueboy record or a Moose record in my list makes me cry

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank God you chose 'Being Boring' (and not 'So Hard').

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

hey Barima i think someone nominated the Dust Bros album before you, meaning you must pick either HELLO NASTY OR ILL COMMUNICATION FFS!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I am currently tempted to nominate both the Coldcut - 70 Minutes of Madness mix and the Mo Wax Headz compilation. I don't know if that's allowed, but really what kind of a 90s poll is not going to allow mixes? They were both pretty influential as albums in their own right.

(Can I? Can I? Please.)

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see what is wrong with mixes. Mayer's "Immer" mix was in the top 100 for the 00's poll, and a couple of mixes have already been nominated for the 90s poll.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, thanks chaps. Back later with the final decision.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Headz and the Coldcut mix are a bit too sprawling and comprises too many already well known artists. Also unlike Immer, the Coldcut mix features several tracks that date from before the 90s so I wouldn't bother with them personally.

Something like The Prototype Years or Platinum Breakz would be better!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

rentboy, I kiss you re: Mekon. Thought I was the only one who cared.

Steve, I am not picking either of 'em. Check Your Head firmly holds my 90s Beastie vote. A quick look at my unnominated 90s list shows:

Cornelius - 69/96 and CM, April March - Chrominance Decoder, Black Star, Soundbombing 2, the Kahimi Karie collection, Ugly Duckling - Fresh Mode, The Runaways - Classic Tales (and everyone's like "Chrissie Hynde didn't - ") De La Is Dead, the first ODB, Tribe - The Low End Theory, the first Beta Band, the second London Funk Allstars (which no one else will care about) and Money Mark - Push The Button.

So, I could be quite busy. Unlike the singles noms, I wasn't able to lobotomise that part of my brain.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, "Being Boring" >>>>> "So Hard". Or >>>, at least.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Fair enough. I was worried about the 80s ones on the coldcut but, still, I've always thought of it as a record by coldcut rather than a compilation, given how *mixed* it is and all the cuts and scratches. Headz I thought might pass 'cos of the impact it had as a record at the time.

I might go for 'Lost and Found' as a track. Hmmm.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

since where'd you learn to kiss that way is a comp, maybe you can switch for coastal, which came out in 1991?

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

He's already decided he prefers One Dove anyway.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The Singles -- Bikini KIll

Could I get a ruling on this, Gear?

Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear's gone AWOL. I suspect his roommate has something to do with it.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Surerly someone will nominate De La Is Dead, Barima. Mind you, there were some things in the 00s poll that I was sure would be nominated and never were. In the meantime, I'll pick up another one on your unnominated list.

LPs:
April March - Chrominance Decoder
Stereolab - Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night

Tracks:
Huggy Bear - "Her Jazz"
Pharoahe Monch - "Simon Says"

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Fine, but I think we can all agree that that's a no go, right? If the B&S EPs didn't count, I definitely don't think this should.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

That Pharoahe Monch song is awesome.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(I probably won't vote in this one btw after the crushing disappointments of the other poll. I'll think I'll do a Ned and be all smugly superior about the results instead)

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:

Meshuggah - New Millennium Cyanide Christ


-- latebloomer (posercore24...), August 30th, 2004. (later)

What an excellent choice. Not sure how many votes it'll get but goddamn is that song heavy.

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I've gotta sleep sometime!

basically, check the release dates and be sure, if you want to change a nomination you can but make a note of it on the suggestions thread, and hits compilations aren't realy allowable.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, some has to do this:

All Saints - All Saints

In a spiritual way, this also makes up for the Sugababes on the other poll.

(Steve, I would've chosen Ill Communication if I did take your suggestion. Feel better?)

(BTW, I am always happy to be comments whore again, organiser-types)

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

If Bikini Kill -- The Singles isn't allowable, then replace it with Sleater-Kinney -- Call the Doctor.

(And then someone nominate "Rebel Girl" or "New Radio" in the tracks category, please)

chris herrington (chris herrington), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill are you still also keeping track? I feel I sort of fell behind after working til 1:30am last night.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

also, I was forwarded some nominations that I will be posting here:

Tracks -

"Unworthy" by Thieves
"Hideaway (Deep Dish Mix)" by De'Lacy (couldn't BELIEVE this hadn't
been nommed!)

Albums -

World Of Twist - Vanity Fair
and I'll put in Crazysexycool if nobody else has as a vote magnet.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Screaming Trees: Dust

shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"Vanity Fair"? Does your forwarder in fact mean Quality Street?

(if so, good choice)

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i wondered the same thing zebedee
Quality Street is great. (and i thought it was their only album)

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Zaxxon, that AMC album has already been nominated.

oops, I'll replace it with Long River Train - Arguments For Drinking.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

OK. I have checked, and I notice that no-one has nominated "Yes" by McAlmont and Butler. So, if no-one else wants to, I'd like to sacrifice "Justified and Ancient" since all the KLF fans will vote for "Last Train to Transcentral" anyway.

Sorry for being a pain.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

gah

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT??

I have no idea what "Last Train to Transcentral" is, but I love "Justified and Ancient"!!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

dude you need to hear LTTT pronto - i am very disappointed to see Justified And Ancient go tho

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

b-but it was that or "Yes" by McAlmont & Butler. And no way was I sacrificing "Groove is in the Heart" either.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
Wu Tang Clan - Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers)

Tracks:

Yo La Tengo - Nowhere Near
Old 97s - Timebomb

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

OK. Very well, then.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Does someone want to Gmail me "LTTT"?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, scrap it. If no-one else cares enough to nominate "Yes" then I won't either. I'll stick to "Justified and Ancient" then.

(x-post - 69 Love Songs has gone already by the way)

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, ailsa should be DENIED (sorry ailsa) if J&A's on the line.

In fact, retractions are generally dodgy. How to make sure something is NOT nominated: nominate it, and in the nick of time say "oh no, changed my mind". Not that I believe that you would do this, of course.

OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's funny, it wasn't until a couple of years ago that I really learned about the KLF's history -- when I was a kid, they just seemed to be some wacky British act with a couple of dance-pop hits ("3 AM Eternal" and "Justified and Ancient").

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

("you" = "any of you", not a. specifically, though her too of course)

OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Roni Size - New Forms
Michael Jackson - Dangerous

Songs:
Noreaga - Superthug
SWV - Right Here


Sygate, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't changed my mind any more. I'm sticking with my original nomination (that's KLF, Gear/Dr. Bill). But someone really ought to nominate "Yes" by McAlmont and Butler as it is glorious (I've mentioned it on the suggestions thread, but I don't think anyone's reading that anymore except the people who are suggesting, who have already nominated).

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Enter the Wu-Tang is also already nominated

chris herrington (chris herrington), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Dangerous has already been picked, Sygate.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear, do we have a ruling on Bikini Kill's Singles?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

no compilations, Leeeeee!

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

was Nevermind purposefully excluded? seriously, did I miss a memo or something?

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

no, just nominate it if you want to

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Christ, you aren't joking. Still no "Holy Bible" either.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

STILL NO BLUE LINES EITHER

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i've already used my noms, unfortunately...i just meant it would look almost like a collective act of purposeful exclusion if it somehow didn't get on there (of course, there's still plenty of time i know).

also, considering it's been a well-trafficked thread today, i'm surprised no one's nominated Live Through This yet.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"i've already used my noms, unfortunately...i just meant it would look almost like a collective act of purposeful exclusion if it somehow didn't get on there"

that would be in keeping with the 2000-2004 poll, for better or for worse

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I only asked because chris who nom'd it is going to replace it with "Call the Doctor." Yay!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Slim Pickens - as noted, both your album picks were already chosen, so pick two more...

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:

Yo La Tengo - Nowhere Near

-- Slim Pickens (slimpickens@(nospamplz)gmail.com)

Slim, I kiss you.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

this is gonna be one weird list

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i imagine it getting scrambled and coming out as:

"the concept" -- tony toni tone fea. thom yorke and raekwon

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

omg where do i sign

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm keeping track till the end of the noms, Gear. Don't worry.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Slim Pickins should swap '69 Love Songs' for 'Holiday' or 'The Wayward Bus'. Those two deserve to be there.

'Yes' by McCalmont and Butler is not really that good.

Ally C (Ally C), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I concur.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Jeff Buckley: Grace
69: The Sound of Music

Tracks:

Photek: Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu
69: Rushed

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Grace, FINALLY. thank you, jed, now I can take that off my short list.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to start a hotties poll on ILE.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

a hit parade track! wonderful! i still need to get the last one.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:
Rancid - And Out Come The Wolves
Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Spinning Around The Sun

songs:
LL Cool J - "Around The Way Girl"
Buju Banton - "Untold Stories"

Patrick (Patrick), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a large jeff buckley contingent now? that seems possible, unfortunately.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

among people who value craft over indie mumbling, yeah there probably is. also among big Led Zep fans.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, "Bloodflowers" is from 2000. Unless you think it should count because the album was finished in 1999 and they waited a year to release it ...

Oh shit. I am so sorry! I keep on thinking for some weird reason or another that that album was released in 1999. Hm. Wasn't it like really early in 2000? Maybe that's why that's so. Plus, prior to Bloodflowers, the best Cure album IMHO was 1989's Disintegration, so that takes care of that.

So -- I wish to retract Bloodflowers and substitute Depeche Mode's Songs of Faith & Devotion for that second album slot.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to start a "things" poll on ILE.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

screw it

Albums:

Mercury Rev "Boces"
Throwing Muses "The Real Ramona"

Songs:

Mercury Rev "Car wash hair"
Aphex Twin "Windowlicker"

jason@, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)

jed thanks for repping Carl Craig so i don't have to! i've not heard 'Rushed' tho, for shame

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

no compilations, Leeeeee!
wtf?
or do you mean: no single-artist compilations?
I assume V/A things are OK, so long as they contain exclusively 90s tracks. I was going to nominate Super Discount for example.

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they should count, I almost nominates Soundbombing 2, though I'm no longer sure if it was '99 or 2000.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the idea of a 90s without dj mixes and v/a comps seems absolutely fucking insane to me

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i prefer to keep those separate personally - unless it's a collection of stuff all from the same period and a clutch of artists with not much material elsewhere (e.g. Immer)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem it took me ages to decide what Carl Craig tracks to put up. I narrowed it down to "Rushed" and "At Les" and was gonna put both up but then i had to correct the omission of Photek and it took me an hour to decide what track! Rushed vs. At Les - i think i made the right decision.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

sadly i don't think these choices will do that well when it comes to votes, as good as they are

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Your right, unfortunatley. You must hear "Rushed" at any rate.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone has also nominated "Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich", which is great; it has three tracks which are among CG's best ("Throw", "Paperclip Man" and "Steam"). I still think someone else should nominate "Programmed" (the LP), even though I'm not sure if I'm the only one who loves that record to death.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"...Dr Eich" is fantastic. I don't love Programmed to death though there are 3 or 4 tracks i DO love that much. Cynical me also thought id go for "Rushed" over "At Les " 'cos theres a good chance a 69 track will appear near the very top of the list, ahem.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

(btw Tuomas i do love "Steam" but my admiration for it went down by quite a long way after i hear the original track it was based round, "Steam Away" by The Flying Lizards. Check that out if you haven't heard it already.)

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Spinning Around The Sun

I appreciate the nod in his direction, but I'd vote for After Awhile.

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the person that nominated 'Dr Eich' might be an EVIL CLONE, but oh well...

tried to make a list of the noms so far for my own sake...have given up

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear did you decide if there should be a window after noms deadline for people to change their nominations yet?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ok i'm gonna have to change my vote.
no longer is the Cocteau Twins "Four Calendar Cafe" nom'd
i want to use my second vote for The Wedding Present - Seamonsters

k? thnx

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

sometimes EVIL CLONES do good work!

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(it wasnt an evil clone of me btw - the rest of the stuff he nominated is not to my taste!)

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll give people through the following friday to change their noms, though I worry that we might see some great albums not make the list because they were taken off after the deadline. o well.

and as for compilations I was talking basically about greatest hits comps.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums - 2 Legit 2 Quit by Hammer
The 12 Commandments of Dance by The London Boys

Songs - The Sound of Drums by Kula Shaker
Doop - Doop

ENJOY!

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Re-opening this compilations/mixes debate. If The Avalanches album was OK for the last poll then the Coldcut one has to be OK for this one.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get the similarity at all.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

songs:

"i'm for real" - nightmares on wax (1990)
"alien girl" - ed rush, optical, and fierce (1998)

albums forthcoming...

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

that avlanches CD basically is just a mix cd though. i certainly get the similarity.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Just cuz I doubt the following ["boring indie rock"] have been nominated.

Albums:

The Afghan Whigs - Black Love
The Wrens - Secaucus

Songs:

Archers of Loaf - "Web in front"
Lilys - "Ginger"

Akiva, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

someone pls nominate "bug in the bassbin"!

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ok here are my albums. this is fucking impossible to do btw. (altho it did get me to pull out haunted science!!)

u.f.orb - the orb
mix-up vol. 2 (aka live at the liquid room) - jeff mills

tricky disco (disco stu), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Black Love has already been nominated.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

HOLY FUCK LIVE AT THE LIQUID ROOM IS AWESOME ... tricky disco is my hero.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

aww thanks barry. it is indeed awesome...

tricky disco (disco stu), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

but jeff buckley mumbled, it only sounded more polished.

keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you akiva for nominating secaucus. deserves so much more props than meadowlands, and at least a spot on the nominees list.

lemin (lemin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Midi, Maxi & Efti Midi, Maxi & Efti (1992)
Hole Live Through This (1994)

Songs:

Lisette Melendez "A Day In My Life (Without You)" (1991)
Trick Daddy feat. Trina "Nann Nigga" (1999)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Dr Bill, would you post the current, up-to-date list of 1990s albums/tracks just so everyone can see what's been nominated thus far?

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

but jeff buckley mumbled, it only sounded more polished.

and the way things sound is so unimportant in music(!).

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I'd nominated Rising by Yoko Ono.

Perhaps somebody else will.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i think posting the nomination list here every time is gonna get a bit annoying isn't it? i can post it on my webspace if sent to me...?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

good idea! webspace or maybe a separate thread that can be updated every several days until the 10th?

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks
Foul Play - Open Your Mind
Saint Etienne - Avenue


Albums
My Life Story - Mornington Crescent
Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night


If there are any jungle fans left, Adam F's Metropolis and Jonny L's Piper could do with a vote...

Robin Goad (rgoad), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

there's way too much St Etienne on this poll, and i like them a lot

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a track of theirs I'll actually vote for though.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

snap

(but I also agree with stevem. I had to google to find out what the hell Continental was!)

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

If nobody has nominated REM's Automatic For The People yet I will gladly pull my Long River Train nom so that it may be included. New Adventures in Hi-Fi is an underrated gem!

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

TWO Afghan Whigs, TWO Drive Like Jehu, TWO Ben Folds Five, THREE Pumpkins and Stereolab...madness...

holy crap, i thought Daft Punk's 'Homework' had been nominated but looking at the list i see it hasn't...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Both those Drive Like Jehu albums are terrific tho, Steve!

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

FOUR stereolab (hooray)

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the drive like jehu albs are mandatory. (tho i will only be voting for one.)

all the rest is fucking mentalism.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i think all of my actual top 15 of the 90s have already been nominated!

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Too much St. Etienne?? Wash your mouth out with soap, Stevem!

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there an updated list of nom's anywhere, as this page is getting a bit wieldy to navigate.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

if Gear or Dr Bill send me theirs i will upload it and post link

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i think Porkpie meant to post this here:


songs (oh christ the indie)
December - Teenage fanclub
Sunshine smile - Adorable
Albums
I can hear the heart beating as one - yo la tengo
Music has the right to Kiddies - Boards of canada

My CtrlF has been playing up sorry if these are duplicates

Most of my first chouices for songs were already taken

Not sure who tto give my hate vote to, either KID A or 69 sh!te songs - but I hate them both equally - ie with unreserved venom

-- Porkpie (porkypi...), September 2nd, 2004 1:40 PM. (porkpie) (later) (link)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

There really is no such thing as too much Saint Etienne.

Albums
Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
Underworld - Beaucoup Fish

Tracks
Saint Etienne - Nothing Can Stop Us
Pulp - This Is Hardcore

Shane, Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

hmph

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"Music Has the Right to Children" has already been nominated, Porkpie.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll forgive you the Spiritualized for the top class track nominations. Thank God 'This Is Hardcore' is finally on there. It would have been a fucking travesty otherwise.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

it's going to be whatever happens

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha I am a doofus

replace B.O.C with ......

Mogwai young team

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 2 September 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm disappointed in you.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not surprised, I like that album though, all the non indie stuff I wanted to nominate is gone though

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 2 September 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Matthew Sweet, "Girlfriend"
Alice in Chains, "Dirt"

Fountains of Wayne, "Radiation Vibe"
House of Pain, "Jump Around"

Candlestick, Thursday, 2 September 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

oops, please remove my nomination for Young team and replace with Peloton by the Delgado's Cheers

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 2 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums
Red House Painters - s/t (rollercoaster cover)
REM - Automatic For The People

Tracks
TLC - "No Scrubs"
Lamb - "Gorecki"

Jonathan (Jonathan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Porkpie, 'Peloton' has also been nominated already!

i need that updated nominations list pronto - please don't make me do it myself guys...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh - someone said it hadn't, hence Porkpie's confusion.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

swygart nommed it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh - someone said it hadn't, hence Porkpie's confusion.

If that was me in the other thread, I do apologise.

Vasquesz, Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

chime is 80s surely? (sorry if this has been debated)

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

is it worth nominating Moby's Everything is Wrong? hataz

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

god forbid i nominated Play of course. despite it being fantastic.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Dec. 1989, according to discogs.com.

So yes - I'd ban it, but other people seem to prefer an elastic definition of decades, for some reason.

I don't mind this so much, except that people will then go 'oh not that again' when it pops up in an 80s poll and vote it down accordingly.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know about that, but I wish 'Go' would get a nomination.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

so are we allowed to change nominations? doh.

xpost - "go" was in the running for me..

tricky disco (disco stu), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the Moby track I would most like to see is actually 'Move'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I always think of 'Chime' as 1990, so it is 1990

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I always think of you as a lion, so you are a lion.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ditto 'Pacific State' which came out in Nov '89 tho did originally surface in late '88 - it's just funny thinking of that as 'from the 80s'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i am slightly disturbed to hear that Chime didn't make the top 20 until 1990. this doesn't effect my belief that it was released in 88. nor does it effect the very great possibility that I am totally wrong about all of this.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

PACIFIC STATE IS TOTALLY THE 80s. BAH the life is being sucked out of the late 80s to prop up the saggy middle bit of the 90s. feh

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

what about 'Chime Chime'?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

and 'Pacific 808:98'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Saggy middle bit of the 90s = Big Beat!

*hides from wrath of Stevem*

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus, keep young team then

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

bleddy hell, nobody going for Ride - Going Blank Again? Always with the Nowheres you indie-ists.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

now someone will be all 'oh man, Young Team sucks so i must nominate Kicking A Dead Pig to set this poll straight'

the middle bit of something is usually the best, but people find it easier to be nostalgic about the beginning and end (i know i do).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:
weezer - s/t
flaming lips - clouds taste metallic

songs:
ol' dirty bastard - got your money
dr. dre - nothin' but a "g" thang

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

saggy middle bit of the 90s = oasis and NWONW

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

beginning = anticipation, excitment and hope, sense of satisfaction as you know so much is ahead of you, common themes likely to be expressed ('it's a new beginning', 'new era', 'new movement', new new new)...looking to the future

end = sense of satisfaction at achievements, 'it's the end!', reflection, review, evaluation/taking stock, putting everything in perspective...looking to the past

the middle bit was the actual 'happening', the 'present', the true lover...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

someone already got that OBD track i think Peter

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

did Broadcast make the 2000-2004 poll?

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, tho i would love it if 'Work And Non Work' was nominated here!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, i'm guessing Middle of Nowhere prob got caught in the other poll too.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks
Jeru the Damaja 'You Can't Stop The Prophet'
Fatboy Slim 'Santa Cruz'

Albums
Primal Scream 'Vanishing Point'
Daft Punk 'Homework'

And nerrrr! I know I'm not cool.

Jamie (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the ODB was only listed on the nineties radio suggestions. ill double check, though...

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh my fault - thanks steve. lets see...

how about deadeye dick - new age girl. god, 1994 modern rock radio.

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Jamie you are TEH KING

Alan, no Orbital in the 00s poll

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i was so loath to vote or nominate on this poll, being worn-out from the last one. but now im sort of excited, remembering all of these songs.

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

real actual nominations

Album:
Orbital - Middle of Nowhere
Ride - Going Blank Again

Tracks:
Underworld - Cowgirl
Altern8 - Activ8 (if that's the Top One Nice One Get Soor-ted track)

I really would love to nominate Stina Nordenstam (Closed her eyes) but if no bugger is going to get Middle of Nowhere up there, and nobody else would actually VOTE for her anyway. Tt

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there are quite a few Stina fans about, actually.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

that IS that Altern 8 track

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:
Motorbass - Pansoul
Propellerheads - Decksandrumsandrockandroll

songs:
Shampoo - "Bouffant Headbutt"
Mariah Carey - "Vision Of Love" (wheee, bring on the hate votes!)

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

sod, nobody's got Prodigy Everybody IN the Place. Can i have that instead of the altern8 track if nobody else will nom it. sorry complicating things. bad alan

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I would have voted for Stina too, that's a lovely album

I'm glad Altern8 are in therem, I'd forgotten that was 90s

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Good change, Alang.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Orb - Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet

Tracks:
N-Joi - Live in Manchester pt.1
Prodigy - Break & Enter

lurkingevilclone, Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

too obvious

i can imagine 'Trouble' getting votes but what the hell is 'Bouffant Headbutt'? sounds marvellous actually

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld is already nominated and anyway, this evil cheating must be held in check.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

This is goin' alright, but have the Dust Brothers shown up outside of Odelay and Fight Club?

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem:

http://spoiltvictorianchild.blogspot.com/2004/08/snappy-bouffant.html

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a Dust Brothers record. I think it's by the wrong Dust Brothers though ('My Mercury Mouth').

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:
XTC - Apple Venus, Vol 1
Ruins - Hydermastgroningem

I want to change out the XTC for:
Buena Vista Social Club Presents Ibrahim Ferrer

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

that's Tom and Ed - it's just bitin' 'Papua New Guinea' a bit too much to be total classic but i do love it

xpost

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I know. I was being 'cute'.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I know. So was I.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't remember what it sounds like because I don't think I've put it on in almost ten years. I bought it cause it was raved about in the music weeklies, probably.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

glad Mars Audiac Q gets a look in at last too.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm assuming it will be disqualified.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

AS ARE YOU

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure if you're joking, but if not did you look at username and email address of the nommer?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i got the original version of 'Everybody In The Place' yesterday, from the 'What Evil Lurks' EP. Blimey.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Motherfuckers gonna drop the pressure!

R.I.M.Y.L.O. (Barima), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

'Pandemonium' and 'Your Love' off 'charly' are 2 of the best b-sides ever invented (XL, pls issue a Prodge b-sides/mixes thing, their time is past anyway).

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Motorbass - Pansoul
Yes! The best French house album of the decade is on the ballot!

Thank god we've also come to our senses with getting MAQ on there, even though the Stereolab vote is going to be highly split.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i think Pansoul is a bit over-rated. it's good (great even, mmmm 'Ezio') but not Homework. i think i prefer Super Discount also. maybe even Cassius 1999!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry - is it a registered users thing only then, or is someone just messing about? seemed an innocent post to my ILM-estranged eyes.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the e-mail address is "anotherfalsename," so I think we have reason to be suspicious.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(I don't show e-mail addresses any more - they're useless at best, and NOIZEY at worst - i do see registered user name tho, so could see poster wasn't reg'd)

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

no registered log in = no nomination/vote?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Half of me thinks people should also have to have at least one other post to their name, to force fiends planning on double-nominating through a hoop that might make them consider how ridiculous they are being.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The trouble with "Pansoul" is that the second half is way more ordinary-sounding that the first half. "Super Discount" is more consistent, but also more by-the-numbers.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

When do we submit ballots etc? In the 2000-2004 poll i somehow missed that whole step.

djdee2005, Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

You'll know.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

someone please nominate secret name by low, or i will have to change my friggin vote.

kthx

todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Half of me thinks people should also have to have at least one other post to their name, to force fiends planning on double-nominating through a hoop that might make them consider how ridiculous they are being.

Yes, I've thought this too, but I assumed it was would be a hassle to have to check every poster -- although most of them you'd know straight away, I reckon.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(I swear, I only talk like that when I'm responding to British posters.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't notice any bogus votes for the 00s poll in the end tho it was a fear, and it may have occurred once or twice but not enough to wreck things as it turned out.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Jay, that read totally normally to me - you're good at this British act!

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone care to post the updated list of albums nominated, incorporating the recent vote switches?

a lot of this stuff seems too obscure to me. :(

amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Dr Bill and Gear are working on it, and it's going to be hosted on a separate page.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

My god, a week away from ILM and this happens. 692 posts to go through! Ah well, at least a good proportion of the stuff I want nominated has been snapped up, so LESS THOUGHT FOR ME.

Albums

Tori Amos, From The Choirgirl Hotel
Madonna, Erotica

Songs

Shanice, "I Love Your Smile"
Björk, "Jóga"

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

oh no, not more threads! ;-)

i like that the poll is confined to two threads, and i think posting the list right here would make the most sense as people coming here to post nominations could see immediately which ones have already been chosen.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll probably vote for one of the bjork singles, but i really wish "bachelorette" would be nominated (particularly the RZA remix!)

amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No, it's going to be on stevem's webspace, not as a thread.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(people requested this, as clicking to see the whole thread when the last consoidated list is some way up is a bit of a pain, esp. on dial-up)

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still torn between "Jóga" and "Bachelorette" and the assorted remixes... actually yes change my vote to "Bachelorette" please. No, stick with "Jóga". No, change. AAAAGH

OK. I'll stick with "Jóga" but please someone nominate "Bachelorette".

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Shanice, "I Love Your Smile"

I'm quite happy about this nomination, even if it means it's yet another track I'll have to consider in the end!

I think "Bachelorette" has been nominated already?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I guess not.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I was probably remembering it from the Suggestions thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:
nirvana - in utero
tlc - crazy sexy cool

singles:
bikini kill - "rebel girl"
freak nasty - "da dip"

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i think both those albums went already

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums
Madonna, Erotica
-- The Lex (alex...@hotmail.com)

Thank you so goddamned much. I owe you a fuck.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night I woke up distraught (yes, this actually woke me up) that I hadn't nominated Geek Love by Bang Bang Machine. If I drop Groove is in the Heart, someone will renominate it, right?

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks

Souls of Mischief - '93 'Til Infinity
Buju Banton - Champion

Albums

Moby - Everything Is Wrong
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle

Gregory T (tubesocks), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm afraid I haven't been keeping up on the list the past 2 days, I'll have to play catch-up so I can get the list proper.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha - 'Geek Love' was one of those tracks that I thought everyone just pretended to go mad for to make John Peel happy. Please don't drop 'Groove Is In The Heart'.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I second Alba.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Lurkingevilclone is my real name. Mars Audiac Quintet must stand.

lurkingevilclone, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

But I never even really listened to John Peel (indie heretic that I am). I wuvved Geek Love though. I'm not dropping Groove is in the Heart, though I am heartened that at the love that both my singles noms have got (even if it is only from Alba)

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

a lot of people
are just jealous that you picked
"groove" ailsa you scamp

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And me, Ailsa! Me! Both times!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

This is as ridicluous as the 'Yes' thing. And I've never even HEARD 'Geek Love'. Can't you stick to a decision, woman?!

Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but I don't know you so I can't be casually yet affectionately disparagingly about you.

(x-post - bugger off Cook)

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

you know 'Groove Is In The Heart' would get so many more votes than this 'Geek Love' thing (i reckon 'Justified And Ancient' would beat 'Yes' too - i know this isn't quite the point but it's worth everyone thinking about in general)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank, Midi, Maxi & Efti Midi, Maxi & Efti (1992) has already been nominated. Please choose another album.

I'll post a list of what's been nominated so far in a couple minutes, after I'm done adding these recent ones.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

don't post it, gmail it!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Porkpie, I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One was also already nominated. Please choose something else.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

bah, chance my albums then to:

chico science - da lama ao caos
vic chesnutt - the salesman and bernadette

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

lurkingevilclone, The Orb - Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld and Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet are both also taken. Please choose two new ones.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

where should I be g-mailing it to, stevem?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

lurkingevilclone, The Orb - Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld and Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet are both also taken.

The Orb was taken, but not the Stereolab!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(This is the FIFTH Stereolab album to be nominated.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(Not that I'm complaining.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, you're right. I think I just assumed that every Stereolab album had been nominated.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Pale Saints - Comforts of Madness

lurkingevilclone, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll send my list as well, just for cross-referencing, though I'm sure Bill's is more accurate. I might have missed a few retractions/noms.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Where should I send it, though?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

To stevem's address, without the 'ANGSTA' bit.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm.

Can I change that there Tori Amos album nomination to Boys For Pele, instead of Choirgirl? Cheers.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That is like someone on death row fussing about what to have for their final dinner.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Boys for Pele? You're an odd one Alex.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:
the renderers - a dream of the sea
bonnie 'prince' billy - i see a darkness

songs:
sonic youth - diamond sea
pavement - shady lane

chris andrews (fraew), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Choirgirl better but Pele better at the moment, and I think more people would vote for Pele.

Step off Tori haterz!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Which is the one where she breastfeeds a piglet?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Boys For Pele. It illustrates the lyrics to "Marianne".

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

gah i'm gonna have to vote for "kool thing" myself aren't i?

amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

You were right to change, then. She has my respect for that, at least.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't you vote for 'Tunic (Song For Karen)' instead?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely ILM would be more tempted by Choirgirl's experimentations with dance rythyms!

(note: I'll vote for whatever Tori is put on my plate, but Pele is easily my least favourite. Apart from SLG, obviously.)

(Sidenote: Alex, have you got "Welcome to Sunny Florida" yet?)

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris, "Diamond Sea" is already taken.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM would be tempted by Choirgirl (and even more so by Venus)... had it heard either of them at all. Those two plus Pele are the creative peak of her career! I like Strange Little Girls better than either Under The Pink or Scarlet's Walk, too.

Actually, now I'm thinking I should nominate To Venus And Back.

I'm waiting for the inevitable reduction of Welcome To Sunny Florida to £4.99 in the HMV sale before I contemplate buying it. I haven't even downloaded the new songs yet.

(xpost)

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I would only vote for Y Can't Tori Read.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

You need to see the black gay guy they interview at the start of it Lex. He's wearing a Lil Kim namechain.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I want a Lil Kim namechain! It is one of the many sadnesses of the other poll that "Thug Luv" was not nominated.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works
Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld

tracks

IO - Claire
DJ Tim Dj Misjah - Access

hector (hector), Friday, 3 September 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Both those albums have been nominated.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, people, it's not that hard to search.

jaymc, Friday, 3 September 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll get the lists up now...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

here is the most recent tracks list as compiled by Dr Bill

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/19901999/tracksnominations.htm


i have marked some in red that i think need to be queried (Alan changed his from Altern 8 i think, Ailsa changed from KLF to Mcalmont & Butler i thought, Jel's Soul Asylum nomination was his third track choice as far as i can tell, N-Joi and 'Break And Enter' may be from someone who already nominated...)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

albums: http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/19901999/albumsnominations.htm

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually sod it steve, leave in Altern8 as you've done there. This is such a wonky list with LOADS of prodigy tracks already, so if nobody else nominates Everybody in the Place then that's our collective loss, and it would be nice to see how Altern8 do in the HOW SOON WE FORGET stakes.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i would vote for either - and remember i still have to nominate and considering who my favourite band of the 90s were...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The person nominating N-Joi, with the suspicious username and email address, popped back to insist they were real. If they were really trying to cheat, I assume they'd have used a more plausible name. (at the time I just thought it was a joke from a regular, saying 'someone nominate these - obviously I can't'.)

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

and remember i still have to nominate and considering who my favourite band of the 90s were...

Was is Soul Coughing?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

IT IS FIVE AM IN LOS ANGELES

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

popped back to insist they were real

all the same, 'anonymous' nominations are still a bit of a problem aren't they?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, but I do trust that person - as I say, they would surely have chosen a less stupid name if they were trying to make a serious bid for multiple nomination.

(plus I did an IP check)

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, Alisa changed back to KLF after some cajoling from a couple boarders (yourself included, I think).

And consider including that Soul Asylum song as my charge for my services, goddamn it!

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(please let me keep the Soul Asylum song)

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

NO WAY

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i did start making a list in order of nominators which might serve as a useful backup - i got halfway through tho and don't know if i can face trawling through the rest of the thread...oh wait who am i kidding?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Just went to Base58 and had all the enthusiasm sucked out of me.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

how come?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just noticed that you've unilaterally decided to ban 'Say My Name', despite what Gear said!

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

not me guv

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Dr Bill.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem: some title corrections needed on the albums page - the Motorbass LP is called "Pansoul" and the World of Twist LP's correct title is "Quality Street"

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(btw the songs list is turning out pretty well IMO. But the albums list seems a bit meh at the moment. Lots more hip hop needed there.)

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow - still no Lauryn Hill.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

seems like quite a lot of hip hop already i thought - i think it's misproportioned tho (how many Biggie? no Busta etc.)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

hey steve - i also nominated deadeye dick - "new age girl", when i realized my ODB nomination had been done already.

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ahem, gabrielle anyone?

it's a good song, really.

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

guys i didn't compile that list, Dr Bill did - i guess i can make the corrections tho

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ahem, gabrielle anyone?
it's a good song, really.

i prefer Shara Nelson's 'One Goodbye In Ten' but let's keep that to the suggestions thread eh?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

God, Shara Nelson is the queen of all.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a great song, but it would sort of mean ONE MORE St Etienne track on the list.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

how come?

I'd rather comment than vote now.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

There's too much (hard to read, hard to think about and consider, too much repetition ie St Etienne) and besides it doesn't really look like my 90s. Maybe it's my general malaise but I just feel mildly isolated and terribly bored. Apologies.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm just amazed there are two Buju Banton tracks on there as much as anything else

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He never sniffa coke, he only smoke sensimilla.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, not certain why "Jumbo" is marked in red on that page, Steve, other than maybe the fear that all the Underworld votes will be split.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

there are albums nominated that seem to be missing from that list. like illmatic for one.

lemin (lemin), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Woob -- Woob 11:94
Bardo Pond -- Lapsed

Tracks:

James -- Laid
Mogwai -- Mogwai Fear Satan

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/19901999/nominations.htm

lists nominations made chronologically - so we can see who still needs to re-nominate

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

We only get 15 votes again for each, right? Only I'm concerned that my list will end up consisting of Pulp and St Etienne and NOBODY ELSE

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

well there is talk of allowing people to pick THIRTY, but it sounds like orc mischief to me

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Thirty is a less lovely round number than, say, a hundred

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i stand by 20

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

30 tracks, 15 albums?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

There's no way I could nominate more tracks than albums.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Clearly we must vote for the same number of tracks and albums.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there are a few albums missing on the list there, I know Illmatic was nominated.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

How is possible to know about more complete albums than tracks? Do you never listen to the radio, watch music TV, download songs or hear things at friends' houses?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, pretty much.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

So you get music after reading about it and that's all?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Only I'm concerned that my list will end up consisting of Pulp and St Etienne and NOBODY ELSE

this is what I'm talking about. We need 30 each.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

So you get music after reading about it and that's all?

Um, yes...primarily.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean of course I download music, but not like...radio singles. I download album tracks.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Only I'm concerned that my list will end up consisting of Pulp and St Etienne and NOBODY ELSE

ha - me, too.

melissa: even then, each album contains multiple tracks! ;)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

But the nominations for the 90s list seem to be mostly radio hits that I've never heard.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, Mel. Well that's cool. I buy the odd album completely blind (err.. deaf) but it's definitely not the norm and I'd say the voting procedure should probably reflect the majority's consumption of music. But I don't really care. Not fewer than 20 tracks, anyway.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

majority's pattern of

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't think we should ascribe greater "importance" to the tracks list by voting for more tracks than albums.
But I understand where you guys are coming from too.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I don't buy albums without hearing them. I read about them, download them, then consider buying them.

But I haven't seriously listened to the radio, listening for music I might actually want to later buy, since like 1996.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Barry, it's not meant to ascribe more importance to the tracks list. It's just meant to be a realistic approach to how qualified most people will be to choose 30 albums, compared to 30 tracks.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

it seems to be a debate between 30 and 20, which is why 25 seems to be an okay option, and a nice list-y kind of number. I can understand both sides of the argument of course.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Melissa - my point was that in that situation most people would download one or two tracks first, as a taster to see if they wanted to spend time downloading the whole album. I guess your approach is admirable, from a sanctity of the album viewpoint, if that's indeed what you subscribe to.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

What I'm trying to get at is that, because there are of course more tracks than albums, you seem to think that'll make it easier to vote for tracks. But it's exactly the opposite. A larger pool makes for an increased likelihood that people are either not aware of or dislike more of the nominated tracks. The albums list tends more towards consensus picks, the tracks are more idiosyncratic.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

If you did a poll, I'd bet money that the vast majority of us would properly know (as in have listened to all the way through at least once) more of the tracks than the albums.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm touched by N.'s faith that people will have listened to an LP before voting for it. Can't believe anyone would have voted for Broken Social Scene in the other poll if that were true ;)

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, let's do that poll first, then the real poll :)
More polls, yay!!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i say make everyone vote for all tracks and all albums

tricky disco (disco stu), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

aka the ilm hive mind vote

tricky disco (disco stu), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be a great idea for a parallel poll!

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Soul Coughing would come bottom of my list. I don't think I've ever heard anything by them, but any band that picks that name has got to be appalling.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

a quick message for stevm re: http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/19901999/nominations.htm

djmartian
omnio - in the woods

this needs to reverse steve, In the Woods [is the artist] Omnio [is the Album Title]

thanks

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

iirc soul coughing had a couple of really great singles, but i dunno about albums. i would have a hard time voting for more than one album by the same artist.

tricky disco (disco stu), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

but i guess in the 'all albums' poll it wouldn't really matter...

tricky disco (disco stu), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

how about 33 albums and 45 singles?

tricky disco (disco stu), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, this is in place of my duplicate Midi, Maxi & Efti nomination:

Mariah Carey Emotions (the alb, not the single) (1992)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

P.S. Thanks for letting me know.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just realised that someone shoudl be nominating Ready Or Not.

Ally C (Ally C), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Note on the base58 album list: Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out needs to be added.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean Call the Doctor; Dig Me Out is already there.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

15 or 20 is fine - if i had to choose 30 tracks or 30 albums the bottom half of each list would be pretty meh. or blank. People should have to refine their choices not just choose "everything by st. etienne" although they are free to do so if they wish. If people were allowed 30 the likelihood that they would choose "everything by st. etienne/prodigy/belle and fucking sebastian" would increase surely?

jed_ (jed), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the chances of a St Etienne sweep are diminished by the number of nominees. Personally, I love Saint Etienne but I'm going to only vote for one album and one track, so as not to make the list too Cracknell-heavy.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

it's weird to think of people who are 19-20 voting. i wonder how their tastes will compare to those of us who spent our entire adolescence in the 1990s. will they benefit from a critical hindsight that has winnowed out some of the better but less "respectable" singles of the decade? will they know much of this music from compilations? etc.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

or our entire adolescences in the 80's or EVEN EARLIER!!!

jed_ (jed), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

is that a new saint etienne record that is coming out on 10/18? or another compilation?

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

it's another compilation! (grrrrrrrrrrrrr, really)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

If I had a free vote, i.e. no nomination process, I could easily choose 100 of each that I really love enormously (that's only 10 per year!), but from the selections so far I find...53 tracks that I might shortlist, and 44 albums. More to come that I love, I expect, including two of each from me. I could certainly happily go to a top 50 for each, without anything I don't care about greatly getting in.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums :

Eels - Beautiful Freak
Pet Shop Boys - Nightlife

Tracks:

Beastie Boys - Intergalactic
Sleater Kinney - Call The Doctor

AbbySeymour (Abigail Sey), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums

Shellac, At Action Park
Outkast, Aquemini

Tracks

Next, "Too Close"
Dr. Dre, "Keep Their Heads Ringin"

Jared Karnoval (jsk baby), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

haha wtf nobody nominated aquemini til now?!

djdee2005, Friday, 3 September 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, am I correct that you'll be adding nominees from now on? Or should I continue to do it?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:

De La Soul - "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays"
Galaxie 500 - "4th of July"

LPs:

Squarepusher - Music Is Rotted One Note
Beat Happening - You Turn Me On


So much stuff is going to miss out! It's sooo tempting to nominate preferred releases from already-nominated artists, but methinks these folks deserve mentions more than others deserve a split vote.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Aquemini finally nominated! Thanks Jarted!

I don't think we should vote for more than 15 or 20 tracks and albums. Even though I'm more familiar with the stuff on the nineties list than I was with the 00's list, voting for 30 albums would force me, for the sake of fairness, to choose stuff that I've actually listened to several times, even though I don't think it's *that* great, over albums that I've only listened to once or twice, or which I have listened to only partially. I *could* probably choose 30 great tracks from that list, but I don't see why 15 or 20 shouldn't be enough.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 4 September 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with Tuomas. 15 nominations is plenty

Joe Kay (feethurt), Saturday, 4 September 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

votes i mean, not nominations

Joe Kay (feethurt), Saturday, 4 September 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

De La Soul - "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays"
Galaxie 500 - "4th of July"

You fucking beauty.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Next, "Too Close"

HERO

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

At the top of this thread, I've added links to the pages listing nominations made so far.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Some people not loving more than 15 or 20 '90s albums/tracks seems no reason to keep the voting choices down - you aren't forced to vote for as many as you're allowed. You can just choose five if that's all you care about. I'll find it distressing to vote for fewer than 100 in each category, or maybe given the nomination process won't lead to all my favourites being listed, 50, and I'd love a larger number of choices.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

As I said, I'll try not to use up all my album votes in a tactical way, just to edge out artists I have an aversion to. Maybe.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

15 IS NOT PLENTY. 15 IS JUST ENOUGH TO VOTE ONLY FOR THE SINGLES I HAVE TO AND NONE OF THE ONES I WANT TO.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 4 September 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny, Pulp & St. Etienne lead the tracks poll with five nominations each. And I'll probably vote for every single one of them!

daavid (daavid), Saturday, 4 September 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Not a single Oasis track has been nominated so far!

daavid (daavid), Saturday, 4 September 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Punk and Radiohead dominated the '00s pretty well, will Saint Etienne and Pulp own the '90s ILX-style?

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 4 September 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be great! They never do very well in lists or polls.

daavid (daavid), Saturday, 4 September 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I still regret not nominating Finisterre in the '00s, dammit. Had to go with fuckin Belle and Sebastian.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 4 September 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I was also surprised that nobody nominated "We Love Life".

daavid (daavid), Saturday, 4 September 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

this poll result is going to be pretty depressing for me. i should take a break from ilm during the rundown.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 4 September 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

tracks
corona - "rhythm of the nihgt"
eddie amador - "house music"

albums
tool - "aenima"
biosphere - "substrata"

:|, Saturday, 4 September 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

eddie amador - "house music"
OMG YES YES YES YES!!! One of my fave house tracks ever.

The techno and house noms on this list are pretty great.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 4 September 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

corona - "rhythm of the nihgt"

i hope that was a real person, cos that's fucking great.

p.s. st etienne are dull

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.kingkamali.com/gallery/arnold2002/large/middle%20finger%202002%20arnold%20expo.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

gear otm

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 5 September 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I've made a grave error - can the listkeepers please swap Squarepusher's Music Is Rotted One Note for Hard Normal Daddy instead, if it's not too much trouble. A fresh back-to-back comparison has changed my mind... :(

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I'm bored with this game of chicken. Here are my nominations:

Albums:

Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Billy Bragg & Wilco - Mermaid Avenue

Tracks:

808 State - 'Cubik'
The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu - 'It's Grim Up North (part 1)'

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Capone & Noreaga The War Report
Black Moon Enta Da Stage

Songs (can someone nominate "Off The Books" cuz I really want to, but I feel there needs to be more/some jungle on here):

Marvellous Cain "The Hitman"
Remarc "RIP"

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

more jungle yes and some proper techno and house (not that chemical brothers crap).

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I think I have my 2 tracks ready.

TRAXXXXXX
The Cardigans - "Lovefool"
Nirvana - "The Man Who Sold The World"


I decided to go with "The Man Who Sold The World" because not that many Nirvana tracks have been nominated, and it would probably recieve more votes that "I Hate Myself and Want To Die," unless that can be proven otherwise, in which case, I'll switch the track.

billstevejim, Sunday, 5 September 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know about "I Hate Myself and Want to Die," but I'm more likely to vote for an original Nirvana song than a cover. Then again, I'm probably not very likely to vote for a Nirvana song at all, so don't listen to me.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 5 September 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah true about the cover thing - i dont even think its one of the best tracks from Unplugged.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i should probably listen to st etienne again... i suppose. i sold my records though, will have to find them again...

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 5 September 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

yes

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 5 September 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

The Jesus Lizard - Goat
Slowdive - Souvlaki

Songs:
Radiohead - The Bends
Massive Attack - Angel

Max Jones (Max Jones), Sunday, 5 September 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"yeah true about the cover thing - i dont even think its one of the best tracks from Unplugged."

Bbbbbut the best songs on that album are the covers! "Oh Me"??

billstevejim, Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't change my "say my name" nomination but can I swap "autumn sweater" for the lyte funky ones' "summer girls"?

someone else can nominate AS or not, I don't care, but I must have SGs and I can't believe I forgot it. I blame ally c.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"oh me" in, indeed, the best song on the record.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Labradford - Mi Media Naranja
Lamb - Lamb

Tracks to come.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger (1994, Peaceville)
Autechre - Amber (1994, Warp)

Tracks:
Jones & Stephenson - The First Rebirth (1996, Bonzai)
T99 - Anasthasia (1991, Who's That Beat?)

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

and some proper techno and house (not that chemical brothers crap)

Well right, there you go.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

T99 - Anasthasia (1991, Who's That Beat?)

HERO. um, if it's the vocal version (which turns up on comps more frequently, but (say) mp3 blogs keep posting the instrumental).

etc, Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

3 Autechre albums nominated leads me to believe ILM is batshit crazy.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Thumbs up on Transylvania Hunger though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

why complain about the nomination of 3 autechre albums when there are 5 st etienne albums and 5 stereolab nominated? now THAT's insanity.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

That's also nuts, true (esp. St. Etienne.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually looking at the list of albums is proof that ILM is batshit crazy (THREE WEEN RECORDS?!?!? THREE AFGHAN WHIGS RECORDS?!?! THREE FLAMING LIPS RECORDS?!?!)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Thumbs up on Transylvania Hunger though.
I really must hear this album now ... it's been recommended to me many times.

Big thumbs up on "Amber" also.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The complete indie fuX0rization of ILM is gross.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

haha where have you been all these years alex?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

looking at that list could make you think House Techno and Jungle were somehow residual forces in the 90's. I don't resent indie-isation on ILM (i chose Grace, for example) but i DO resent the sort of "dance" music indie fans think is good. Maybe this is what "indie fuX0rization" entails - i have often wondered!

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The representation from "electronic" genres has been a lot better than I expected.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is House isn't really about individual tracks or albums so it doesn't really lend itself to this kind of poll. (xpost)

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, I really shouldn't be at all surprised, Julio.

The blatant underrepresentation of hip hop troubles me more than the cold shoulder given to House/Techno/'Ardkore/Jungle though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

lyte funkie ones, actually.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the nomination for Altern-8 "Altern-8" should be "Activ-8", right?

Browsing through both lists, I see tons and tons of hiphop! FOUR Notorious BIG tracks alone...if there's anything to complain about, where's the metal (which went through what was probably its artistically most interesting period in the first half of the decade)? Although, nice to see that 3rd & The Mortal album.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I know this doesn't need any help w/ canonization or anything but the lack of Breaking Atoms is still a black mark on ILM as far as I'm concerned.

djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I counted at most 25 hip hop albums when I was looking through the list earlier. (And I didn't realize that Breaking Atoms hadn't been nominated. . . hmmn, well either way I am happy with my two picks.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

OK. I really wanted I Should Coco, because I figured no-one else would nominate it, and it is cheerful, fun, exuberant and one of my favourite albums ever.

But I'm officially ditching it for The Holy Bible. Which is not cheerful, fun, or exuberant, but should be here because... well, it just should.

Anyone hating on me changing my mind should just make someone else nominate I Should Coco.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

would KMD's Black Bastards be eligible for this poll or would that be the '00s poll?

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

What kind of nominated dance tracks are you objecting to, apart from the Chemical Brothers and Daft Punk, jed?

I know relatively fuck all about dance music really, so perhaps I shouldn't vote for any of it, on the grounds that I'll vote for the wrong things.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I sort of mean that seriously, btw. It's affected my nominations too. On the one hand, the list so far is obviously very indie-rock oriented, and I was tempted to nominate an album I love by Cesaria Evora (Cabo Verde) to broaden it a bit, but I don't even have any other Cesaria Evora albums, let alone a broad knowledge of Cape Verdean music to judge it against. You have to work with the tools you've got when running a poll like this, and I'm resigned to being a tool.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I kind of contradicted myself there, because I got seduced by the tool joke. I guess my feelings about the issue are unresolved though, so the contradiction is OK.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

not many of the tracks in fact, but quite a few of the albums and i wont name them. i'm just saddened by the feeling that these things that were key to the decade (not just for me) seem like token add ons.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, well all the albums are appalling! (I am outraged by those chosen to represent indie)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

im pretending to care about it more than i actually do tho. there are lots of albums i like on there but not many tracks.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe you could assuage your sadness by thinking of the Chemical Brothers as rock and Daft Punk as pop instead?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

or rather many of the albums nominated ARE amongst the finest of the decade but few of the tracks are.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

xp!

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

You've got to be realistic, though. ILM is an English-speaking board, and the majority of the English-speaking world is American. Dance music (certainly of the type you like) had a relatively very small impact in the USA, so it's inevitably going to be marginalised on a poll. You'd have better grounds for bemoaning the relative lack of hip-hop, really.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I stand by my nominations.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I would know if shitty goth rock means more to me than Fear Of A Black Planet so stop yr hating

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Elastica s/t
Prick s/t

Singles:
En Vogue - "Free Your Mind"
Tircky - "Black Steel"

anode (anode), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

no beatnuts
I doubt any DITC (big l, showbiz+ag, big pun etc.) made it
no southern hip-hop to speak of.
No Gang Starr
No missy albums
no breaking atoms
no boot camp clik (black moon/smif-n-wessun/beatminerz/etc)
Common's Resurrection hasn't been nominated

From a once over I haven't seen a single cash-money track, despite their singles dominating hip-hop in the late 90s.

A quick search for "MF", when hoping to find MF Doom's first album, came across several "briMFul of Asha" references, but no MF Doom.

Stevem said:
i hope we don't end up with too much mediocre hip hop nominated just to thwart actually pretty good indie

I wouldn't worry. :-|

djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"no gang starr" = "no gang starr albums"

djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

HEY I just nominated Black Moon, dude!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(Not that it changes anything you are saying, of course, both lists are completely insane. . . that said the albums list is clearly way way worse.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Mark Eitzel, _60 Watt Silver Lining_
Lullaby for the Working Class, _Blanket Warm_

Songs:
The Notwist, "Puzzle"
Red House Painters, "Japanese to English"

Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the lack of hip hop nominated might end up helping what is nominated

i say everyone continue nominating indie albums i don't care for - whys there only one sleater kinney album so far? we need all of them nominated.

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha good pt.

Incidently remember everyone Geto Boys for number one single.

djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

also maybe the final tallys should have top 50s for genres too. ie 'dance' 'hip-hop' 'indie' 'pop'. if this is somehow workable.

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

tell you whut i'm gonna do: I'll toss up the main list and after that's done with I'll just put up posts listing the top 50 by genre.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

you are the guy

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"THREE WEEN RECORDS?!?!?"

ONLY THREE?!?!?!#$!#$%#

billstevejim, Monday, 6 September 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

has that link w/the list of nominations been updated recently?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

also maybe the final tallys should have top 50s for genres too. ie 'dance' 'hip-hop' 'indie' 'pop'. if this is somehow workable.

Can you tell me if Saint Etienne are dance, indie or pop then?

Vasquesz, Monday, 6 September 2004 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

we need 808 state ex:el in the albums - i think it was 1990 anyway. glad to see cubik got nominated as a track AT LAST. fools

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 6 September 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

'ex:el' is holding firm on my shortlist

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

updated nominations list (chronologically by nomination)

alphabetically by album

alphabetically by track

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"posible clone"???

:|, Monday, 6 September 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve, is this where we can point out problems??

The Fieldmice album was DISALLOWED, so I changed it to One Dove 'Morning Dove White'. Although now I sort of wish I'd changed it to Yoko Ono 'Rising', but never mind. I'm sure neither of them will reach the top 100.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, steve. Didn't someone nominate R.E.M.'s Out Of Time?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

:| it is hard to tell if you are not just someone who had already nominated because you are not logged in and have an unfamiliar name

thanks for that hobart

alba, i think it was changed to 'automatic...'?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

my mistake, danh's nomination for R.E.M.'s 'Out Of Time' has now been added, but he still has to pick one other album and two other tracks as far as i can see

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, I admit it, i'm an evil clone, you can remove my nominations if you want to. or keep them, whatever suits you.

uh huh, Monday, 6 September 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

also for future reference the email for which to vote will be the easy-to-remember ilx1990s@yahoo.com.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

sshhhh, keep 'em.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

are you sure you are up to this Gear!?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I can't remember which Tori album I ended up sticking with but to clarify - it's From The Choirgirl Hotel. The lists both seem to be different.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's not too late, change Carlos Vivies' "Fruta Fresca" to Sinead O'Connor's "Nothing Compares 2 U."

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear has his own list afaik, as does Dr Bill - i'm doing my own more for my own benefit than anyone else's. I will change any nominations as requested by those that nominated them. not sure what to do with nominations from people not logged in...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

oh dont worry, i dont want my nominations chnaged.

:|, Monday, 6 September 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i could be you

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Aren't there a lot of valid posters who don't log in for some reason or other? Maybe we should just trust them, at least if it's a familiar name.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 6 September 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Guided by Voices - Bee Thousand
Smog - Julius Caesar

Tracks:

Palace Music - New Partner
Guided by Voices - Motor Away

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I am changing my track nomination from 'Cubik' to 'You Got The Love (Remix)' by The Source feat. Candi Staton.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

bah, i prefer 'cubik'

OKAY my nominations are as follows:

Albums:

808 State 'Ex:El'
Beastie Boys 'Hello Nasty'

Tracks:

Tori Amos 'Professional Widow' (Armand Van Helden remix obv.)
Rufige Kru 'Terminator'


which means someone else has to nominate 'Out Of Space' k?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

My choices are marked red due to possible clone status - who will ultimately decide if they stand or not? Will their chances improves if I change my name to lurkingevilclown?

lurkingevilclone, Monday, 6 September 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

hey if you're that bothered why not log in? i like the choices from the anon people tho so not too bothered. might try posting some more from an internet cafe on thursday night if i fancy it...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone else can nominate 'Cubik'. I just realised that despite Cubik's iconic status, I actually prefer girly old 'You Got The Love', so I'm sticking with that.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't expect any other 808 love from this crappy place (just kiddin' darlings), feh

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe Alan will overturn his ridiculous Altern-8 nomination in favour of 'Cubik'.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

the Altern 8 album should be here!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I am being unfair on Altern-8. I remember them being a kind of joke.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Altern-8 are about a million times better than 808 State.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

you are both totally wrong but hey-ho...the realisation just hit me how hard and amazing this is gonna be as i picked out the ones on the list i'm thinking of voting for

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't make me laugh. (to Alex in SF)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Well a million is maybe strong, but I still like Altern-8's best stuff better than most 808 State.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

So they were somewhere in between being a joke and being a million times better than 808 State. That is quite a range, I suppose.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)(aka "Activ-8" or "E-Vapor-8" or "Infiltr-8"--or whatever is nominate--are better than "Cubik".)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm kind of surprised that no Sonic Youth has made the list.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a good reason why Full On. . . Mask Hysteria goes for crazy money, people. It's almost as good a hardcore record as Experience.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(the album list, that is)

xpost

o. nate (onate), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. That's the kind of thing I meant when I made my 'wrong indie' comment in reply to jed. I mean for fuck's sake, 'Tunic (Song For Karen)' is not there while, oh God I don't even want to think about what is there.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

But I suppose this is what polls are for. Exposing other people's appalling tastes.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The only one I can remember is E-Vapor-8 which was pretty good, but wouldn't really make it into my top 10 of 1992 never mind the whole decade. And it does sound a bit cheesy now. And they stole Strings Of Life and stuck it all over their track. And they were a bit of a joke band. (xpost - obviously I'm not talking about Sonic Youth)

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha - it would have been great if you were.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Frankly, I'd rather Alien 8 than Altern-8.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i would love to hear sonic youth throw "stings of life" all over a track

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

quite why being a 'joke band' is a problem i have no idea - doesn't sop KLF being nominated, altho it looks like Scooter won't make this list. Altern 8 sit between those two acts perfectly balanced.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The KLF's jokes were funny.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all fun and games until somebody cuts up a sheep.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Altern-8 were the flies-wings-pullers to the KLF's sheep-slaughterers.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

it's an unfair comparison - Altern 8 were much more attached to rave/hardcore circuit esp. in the North (Stafford/Sheffield/Leeds etc.) and they wore that on their sleeve (excuse pun of sorts) more openly. They even stood in Stafford's council elections. None of this is particularly relevant when it comes to the music tho - ripping off 'Strings Of Life' was par for the course at the time (see also Hyper Go Go's 'High' for a worse offender) but the album is quality (303s, mentasm, 909, rare groove breaks, European style hardness and a consistently 'busy' sound. As good as LFO at the time but a lot more fun basically).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

You started the comparison!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Altern-8 are way way way better than KLF (perhaps a million times, yes?)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, why don't you go and marry them if you love them so much.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, I know, we've all been wondering what I was going to nominate for the Tracks portion of the poll. I've been deliberating and cross-referencinng for weeks now. The final choices are at once onbvvious and startling:

The nominees are...
Blur - "Song 2" (cannot believe no one has nominated this already, though it's got a lot of mentions
Hootie and the Blowfish - "Hold My Hand" (no commentary necessary)

frankE (frankE), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Now we have a new contender for #1 most hated track

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 6 September 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

onbvvious = obvious

frankE (frankE), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Altern-8 are onbvviously a million times better than the KLF.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

They might have played amusing 'pranks' but their music was absolutely terrible. In fact, I preferred that Doctorin' The Tardis one to anything else. (Again, I'm not talking about Sonic Youth here)

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

onbvviously

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks:
Slowdive - "Avalyn"
Dubstar - "Stars"

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i want to change my album vote from able tasmans 'hey spinner' to his name is alive 'home is in your head'

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 6 September 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Tori Amos 'Professional Widow' (Armand Van Helden remix obv.)

Huh, no 'obv' about that. The original is amazing! So is the remix though so I'm not complaining.

"Stars", well done on that one.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 6 September 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm kind of surprised that no Sonic Youth has made the list.

It has! However I think they'll do better in the '80s poll (if there is one).

daavid (daavid), Monday, 6 September 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd prob vote for "dirty" and def. for "tunic" and/or "kool thing"

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 6 September 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing this painful nominations process has taught me is that I really didn't like much chart pop in the 90s (comparatively). There's hardly any on the list, and I don't really miss it.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 6 September 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i really think we all deserve 5 nominations

but maybe i am just sad that some of my favorite things are still missing

todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air, but I will stick by Altern-8. I loved LOVED that track, something about the rhythm, the beats seem to go out of sync or something. Hurrah for ex:el, but it now looks like we've sacrificed the only two good prodigy tracks :-( please someone, anyone...

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

only two? they are the two best singles granted. i'll be voting big for the albums anyway

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure how many votes it might get, but I nominated the RHP s/t album with the rollercoaster cover, and noticed on the list it just says red house painters - s/t. The band put out two s/t albums in the 90s, so I suggest someone keep "rollercoaster lp" beside this one.

Jonathan (Jonathan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

alphabetically by album

the listing for Buena Vista Social Club should be credited to Ibrahim Ferrer, because it was referring to his solo record, not the first album

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

can somebody nominate perfect teeth by unrest, please?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

in other news, my album list is looking indie-as-fuck. this may not misrepresent me terribly, but im slightly embarrassed.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to post the nominations list on the suggestions thread, for reference. I just updated it this very second.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

can somebody nominate perfect teeth by unrest, please?

no, bad idea. it would only hurt the cause.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:

REM - Out of Time
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road

Tracks:

Cher - Believe
B-52s - Roam

danh (danh), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

When is the deadline?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

the nominations will be done on Friday Sept 10, when the actual VOTING will begin

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

by done he means over

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

songs
blur - coffee and tv
wu tang - shame on a nigga

albums
pixies - trompe le monde
beck - mellow gold

jb, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Shame On A Nigga deserves nomination simply on the basis of its appearance in the Larry Sanders Show - when the Wu are guests, and Hank asks some technician to name some of their songs, then goes up to them and says how big a fan he is, and "My favourite is 'Shame On A Nigger'." A great moment. (It also belongs on the list anyway, I don't mean this is the only reason for choosing it.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

tracks
Arab Strap - The First Big Weekend
ATB - Till I Come

albums
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Boatman's Call
Sparklehorse - Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot

Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man i hated that ATB track so much. i didn't mind BBE's 'Seven Days And One Week' tho.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that I've nominated it I'm wondering how much I like it myself. But it was everywhere in Israel when I was there in 1999, it brings back very happy memories, so I'll stick with it.(Also, I'm curious to see if anybody votes for it)

Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i rescind my nomination of

Wu-Tang Clan, "C.R.E.A.M."


and replace it with

Chaka Demus and Pliers, "Murder She Wrote"


gear et al: let me know when you've read this.

p.s. thanks so much for all the work you've put into this. it's fun.

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

albums
fugazi - 13 songs
mercury rev - deserter's songs

tracks
superchunk - question is how fast
pulp - do you remember the first time

birdman, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

albums
the fall- extricate
stina nordenstam- and she closed her eyes

tracks
air -all i need
tribe called quest- scenario

LerkerX, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe loging in isnt such a bad idea after all.

:| (....), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I am delighted with those two sets, in that there is another great Pulp track and a Fall album I'll probably vote for.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It's probably my fault, but I'm not finding the nominated Smashing Pumpkins tracks on the list linked upthread (and there is at least one of them, I voted on it...). Can anyone check if there is something wrong?

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i rescind my nomination of

Wu-Tang Clan, "C.R.E.A.M."

:_(

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ALBUMS
Robert Forster: Danger in the past
Monster Magnet: Dopes to Infinity

TRACKS
Supergrass: Caught by the Fuzz
The Mavericks: Dance the Night away

Bidfurd, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i rescind my nomination of

Wu-Tang Clan, "C.R.E.A.M."

:_(

Tearz.

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Robert Forster: Danger in the past

Now I am happy.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

My tracks nominations seem to have been missed, as they have question marks next to them on the list...or should i just take this as a hint?

Tracks:
Blur - "Song 2"
Hootie and the Blowfish - "Hold My Hand"

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 9 September 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums
Boo Radleys - C'mon Kids
Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic

Tracks
Jam & Spoon feat Plavka - "Find Me (Odyssey to Anyoona)"
World of Twist - "Sons of the Stage"

Vasquesz, Thursday, 9 September 2004 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you Vasquesz, I was hoping either "Find Me" or "Right in the Night" would be nominated, though I wasn't sure whether anyone would actually do it.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 September 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Please replace my nomination of Nas "It Ain't Hard to Tell" with

Everything but the Girl - "Walking Wounded"

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 9 September 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ok plz stop getting rid of h-h song thnx

djdee2005, Thursday, 9 September 2004 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ironically enough...

can I turn my vote from Gang Starr's "Mass Appeal" into "Hot Music" by Soho?

djdee2005, Thursday, 9 September 2004 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope that stina nom holds.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 9 September 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

updated my nominations lists: http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/19901999/

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, as far as I know these haven't been nominated:

Albums
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Portishead - Dummy

Very Bristol I know, but I'm trying to think up things that aren't already here, and that I listened to as a teenager and I think still stand up now, as opposed to, say, Neds Atomic Dustbin and Blessed Ethel.

Tracks

Bwha ha ha: Let me be the first to do this...
Oasis 'Live Forever' (The only really good song they did)
Bjork 'Venus As A Boy'

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Dummy is already on the list, Anna pick another.

I think you've made a lot of people very happy with your other choices.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Stereo MCs!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh crikey, let me have another think.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(I am really shocked that Blue Lines wasn't already there.)

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(I miss the 90's now)

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, did someone rescind the only Auteurs album nominated? Fuck.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh for fuck's sake all of you. How the hell have you managed this?

Nirvana 'Nevermind'.

I mean, I probably won't vote for it, but it's laughable to try and sum up 90's music without that.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Anna is the clean up woman.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

noooooo....

Vasquesz, Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

we shall call her Mrs Mop from now on

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Blue Lines, Live Forever, Nevermind.

I have got the right decade, right?

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

as ever with ILM, people may be looking to eschew the canon. as much as i like Blue Lines and Nevermind i doubt i will be casting votes their way.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I know they were, I am being a canon terrorist.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I applaud your canon attack. People don't have to actually vote for them.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

speaking of the canon, I am changing one of my LP nominations to De La Soul is Dead, please

i'll ditch Propellerheads

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

With all this talk of canon busting I now have Cloudbusting stuck in my head, but obv. the bit Utah Saints sampled, what with it being 90's and all.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

That was spinning around my head the other day too. I hadn't thought about it in years before that. Did someone mention it on here?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

someone plz nominate the second organized konfusion album so i can finalize my list and stop worrying about this. k thnx bye.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

whoever is keeping track of the nominations
you listed my nomination
of mercury rev - deserter's songs
as
mArcury rev - deserter's songs

birdman, Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

stress?

(is that the album you're referring to, I mean, not 'is that your current state of mind?')

xpost to jess

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha yes to both

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Stanley Road - Paul Weller

Mike Packer, Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh God.
Wait! Isn't it Friday yet?
Somewhere?

Vasquesz, Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Please replace my nomination of Nas "It Ain't Hard to Tell" with

Everything but the Girl - "Walking Wounded"

-- amateur!!!st (---...), September 9th, 2004 3:33 AM. (later)

ok plz stop getting rid of h-h song thnx

-- djdee2005 (ew...), September 9th, 2004 3:48 AM. (later)

Ironically enough...

can I turn my vote from Gang Starr's "Mass Appeal" into "Hot Music" by Soho?

-- djdee2005 (esl...), September 9th, 2004 3:58 AM. (later)

WTFx6 to these three posts.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a CIF conspiracy - say no to good rap

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Wu-Tang Clan, "C.R.E.A.M."
Nas, "It Ain't Hard to Tell"

i'm totally blotting to undermine all the corny indie choices somehow
[...]
i rescind my nomination of Wu-Tang Clan, "C.R.E.A.M." and replace it with Chaka Demus and Pliers, "Murder She Wrote"
[...]
p.s. st etienne are dull
[...]
Please replace my nomination of Nas "It Ain't Hard to Tell" with Everything but the Girl - "Walking Wounded"

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not as if "c.r.e.a.m." or "it ain't hard to tell" should have made it over like 90 other rap singles

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean no "california love", no "i got 5 on it", no motherfucking "FLAVA IN YA EAR (REMIX)" I MEAN JESUS H CHRIST PEOPLE

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

no "tried by 12"

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

no "afro puffs"

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

no "feels so good" ARRGH I CAST THEE OUT

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ooo I had forgotten about "I Got Five On It". I might have voted for "C.R.E.A.M." though. I'd rather vote for Illmatic as an album. I just think Amateurist has been off his knob on this whole thread.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i really really loved that EBTG track at the same time. and i think i still do.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

'Hot Music' and 'Walking Wounded' are both terrific. Errr.. Fuck hip hop - yeah!

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Are nominations still open????

If so, I forward (If not already taken):

Albums
"Songs of Praise" African Head Charge
"Connected" Stereo MCs

Songs
"Antarctica" Windy and Carl
"Wilmot" Sabres of Paradise

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

'Wilmot' - excellent. Except there's now a late flurry of ttacks I love and cutting it down to just 25 or whatever it is will be hard.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i really really loved that EBTG track at the same time. and i think i still do.

Yeah I'm not even knocking any of the selections. It just struck me as a weird series of events.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

ANNA IS MY HERO FOREVER I KISS YOU x 10000

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the addition of "Wilmot" and "Live Forever" isn't making my shortlist any easier.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, big thanks to Anna for nominating Blue Lines. I'll resist talking of kissing her or she'll just not go near me ever again.

I've lost track of exactly when the deadline is - any particular time tomorrow? I'm on UK time (5 ahead of East Coast, 8 of West Coast).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I suggest 23:59 BST (18:59 Eastern)

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"23:59 BST (18:59 Eastern)"

is that an autechre record?

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not as if "c.r.e.a.m." or "it ain't hard to tell" should have made it over like 90 other rap singles
-- jess (wt...), September 9th, 2004.

that was my thought. there are better w-t clan singles nominated already, and i hope someone can nominate a better nas record. anyway, i'll vote for illmatic.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway chaka demus and pliers is hardly corny indie unless we're in some weird alternate universe

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG ARE WE IN SOME WEIRD ALTERNATE UNIVERSE?!?!

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

just to make y'all feel better,

please replace Tindersticks, Simple Pleasure

with

De la Soul, De la Soul Is Dead


how have i been "off my knob"?

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, amateurist I had already sacrificed one of my picks to get De La Is Dead in (scroll up a bit), but I'll happily pick something else instead now

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I've agonised long enough over this,

Albums;

Belle and Sebastian - The boy with the Arab Strap
Auteurs - New wave

Tracks;

George Michael - Fast love
Vangelis feat. Stina Nordenstam - Ask the mountain

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, amateurist I had already sacrificed one of my picks to get De La Is Dead in (scroll up a bit), but I'll happily pick something else instead now
-- zebedee (zebede...), September 9th, 2004.


no no, i'll think of something else. will submit my new choice later in the day.

the problem is that i can think of a million tracks that haven't been nominated (see jess's suggestions for examples) but i think most of my favorite LPs (at least, the ones that aren't hopelessly obscure) have been nominated already.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

do we have an updated nominations list? would come in handy now that things are "heating up"

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

No one has nominated Stress yet Jess is right someone do it now plz.

djdee2005, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

How on earth did ppl nominate the second jeru album but not the first?

Also as far as hip-hop these lists are rather embarrassing.

djdee2005, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

have you counted to see how much hip-hop has been nominated? or do you mean the choices themselves? i can only think of a couple of blatantly glaring omissions considering it's a top 100 but even then they are by artists already well represented here (Dre & 2Pac eg)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, well, that's what you get with this populist nominations process

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

how much hip-hop would there have to be in the final 100 for there not to be cries of embarassment and what appears to be a sense of indie guilt?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

100

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

amateurist OTM

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Latest odds for what might top the albums list (Source: Lucky Neville Turf Accountants):

RADIOHEAD - OK COMPUTER...............3/1
MY BLOODY VALENTINE - LOVELESS...............4/1
PULP - DIFFERENT CLASS...............5/1
ORBITAL - IN SIDES...............9/2
DJ SHADOW - ENDTRODUCING...............11/2
PRIMAL SCREAM - SCREAMADELICA...............33/1
OASIS - DEFINITELY MAYBE...............33/1
DR DRE - THE CHRONIC...............33/1
WU-TANG CLAN - ...36 CHAMBERS...............40/1
NAS - ILLMATIC...............50/1
TRICKY - MAXINQUAYE...............50/1
MANICS - THE HOLY BIBLE...............150/1

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Ewing has just informed me he has decided to change his track nomination of Thieves 'Unworthy' to...

Dr Dre 'California Love'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

You are rubbish at making odds. Where's 69 Love Songs?

And surely the brown album is the most popular Orbital album?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

that britpop stuff isn't even on my radar... i have no idea what the manics or recent primal scream sounds like and am in no rush to find out...

69 love songs is the least MF album (save the new one)... i'd much prefer holiday or charm of the high way strip (not that i'd vote for any of them honestly)

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"indie guilt" gimme a break I've never liked "indie." Nothing to do w/ guilt.

Dude there are 3 flaming lips albums nominated. I mean seriously.

I summed this up before but hip-hop is incredibly underrepresented here. Other than my nomination of "Mind Playing Tricks" (which I should note is a fairly token southern track anyway) there is virtually no southern hip-hop, nothing from Cash Money. early 90s stuff is underrepresented as well. There is nothing WRONG with the tracks that are nominated, but the rock nominated is so much more in depth.

djdee2005, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the point of complaing about stuff being underrepresented? there only really only a few genres represented at all. inevitably most stuff is gonna be left off.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Well in one sense I'm happy about it bcuz it means there's a lot less vote splitting.

But it also suggests that not too many ppl are going to be voting for hip-hop.

djdee2005, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i think most people (including myself?!) will be voting for a few token hip-hop/r&b singles at least, maybe the same ones. 1/3 of my albums list should be hip-hop.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Dr Dre 'California Love'

Isn't this 2Pac ft. Dr. Dre?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yes

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it is but thank you thank you thank you Steve.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

don't thank me thank Old Man Ewing

djdee2005 i do take your point but surely you have realised by now that ILM, being as it is dominated almost exclusively by people who aren't anything like the hip hop artists they profess to like, is not the kind of place that's going to treat hip-hop as it's #1 genre at heart. that said i still expect the album list to feature at least 10 hip hop albums in the top 100 and at least a fifth of the tracks should fall under that category. there are more than five distinct genres of music out there so i don't see that as real cause for complaint (if anything it would suggest too much hip-hop in the final lists but that's pure speculation).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the point of complaing about stuff being underrepresented? there only really only a few genres represented at all. inevitably most stuff is gonna be left off.
Totally OTM. I think I wrote something to this effect on the suggestions poll -- this "how are we going to cover it all" obsession is crazy. Obviously we are not going to cover it all. The point is not to represent everything, the point is to try and determine the most popular music in an overall/averaged sense.

And you don't hear me rattling on about the lack of represenation of techno. Yeah, 1/2 of my own personal list would be techno -- so what?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Very little avant rock, folk, noise, jazz, drum and bass, classical, j-pop, 'world music', country, garage, adult pop, etc. I think hip hop has done as well as expected.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The absence of Take That is a disgarace etc.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The albums on that odds list... ugh ugh ugh. I like a couple of them, but the list is so boring! I am entirely unsurprised that it is 100% male btw.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

And surely the brown album is the most popular Orbital album?
The more vocal contingent around here will definitely favour "In Sides", but the Brown Album is more of the populist choice. So it will depend on how many members of the Orbital Silent Majority are lurking out there :)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

ORBITAL SILENT MAJORITY REPRAZENT

put me down for second go-round with PRML SCRM as well.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

brown >insides >snivilization >green

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Stick Brown on the other end of that list and you got it.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The albums on that odds list... ugh ugh ugh. I like a couple of them, but the list is so boring! I am entirely unsurprised that it is 100% male btw.
-- The Lex (alex_macpherso...), September 9th, 2004.

"odds list"--which one is that? and what do you mean by "100% male"?

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It's really funny what ILM considers "boring" for a top ten. I would be thrilled as hell with a list that had Orbital, Pulp, Primal Scream and The Magnetic Fields all in the top 10.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Odds list = the one stevem posted a little way upthread. By 100% male I mean that there are no women on it.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

almost any top ten compiled from a sizable number of ballots is going to be fairly "boring."

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

MBV/Pulp/Orbital/Primal Scream/Tricky/Magnetic Fields all have lady-aspects, I would be loathe to think of these as exclusively "male" albums anyway. If I did I would probably like them LESS (and they are all great and one or two of them are considerably better than that)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I know its late but maybe if there was a restriction to one album per artist you could have gotten more names/variety of material on there; from more women as well as more chinese people, too.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

just to make y'all feel better, please replace Tindersticks, Simple Pleasure with De la Soul, De la Soul Is Dead

how have i been "off my knob"?

Ok, I was in class so I couldn't reply (in class = I'm 22 and so 8 when the 90s started so maybe I don't even have a right to bitch), but I guess you changing your vote again is indicative of the kind of behavior I found odd. It fucks w/everyone's noms, I think. That and dissmissing St. Et. and then nominating a EBTG track.

It wasn't really a matter of the specific songs (although I admit I might be likely to vote for Wu-Tang and Nas tracks even if I thought there were maybe better singles just because they are Nas and Wu-Tang, but then thats probably why there are album noms so maybe I should think that through more before I vote).

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
Sainkho Namtchylak - Lost Rivers
Pan Sonic - A

Traxxx:
Aphex Twin - Girl/Boy Song
Diamanda Galas - Gloomy Sunday

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

lady-aspects

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm 22 and so 8 when the 90s started so maybe I don't even have a right to bitch

oh! i hope you didn't take my comments to mean that young people's votes weren't valid or anything. i was just wondering how the votes of younger people would differ from those of us in our mid-20s, and the folks who are even older.....

as for the other stuff, sorry. there's too much good stuff for me to decide, and i made my initial nominations too quickly. almost immediately after i made them i thought of stuff i absolutely LOVE which i didn't expect anyone else to nominate.

as for EBTG vs. st. etienne, well i think i might be underestimating st. etienne after a while of overestimating them. and i've sort of fallen in love again w/my old EBTG records so that explains that. i don't really see them as being similar, though....

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

albums:

MIMEO - s/t
Dead C - harsh 70s reality

tracks:

keiji haino 'affection'
sonic youth cover of john cage's 'four' on goodbye 20th century

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

or performance, rather than cover.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

ebtg always seemed to me like the st. etienne which completely divorced itself from it's "shambling"/indie-pop roots, very "upmarket" vis a vis the kinda slouchy charm a lot of st et has.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ebtg have always had less humor, more earnest lyrics, a "heavier" sound overall. (*this is not a compliment or a criticism*)


this is a massive oversimplification/overgeneralization, but i'm kind of more excited by ebtg's engagement with the marketplace (well, you know what i mean) than st. etienne's playful relative-aloofness from it...

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

the "upmarketness" might also be why ebtg had (relative) success in america

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll look for some of those Julio.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

ebtg always seemed to me like the st. etienne which completely divorced itself from it's "shambling"/indie-pop roots, very "upmarket" vis a vis the kinda slouchy charm a lot of st et has.

er, i thougth this is what everyone thought - and I even kinda like the Marine Girls.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

well not many people in america have an opinion on either of these bands

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i think ebtg have a definite something, though i dunno if "charm" is the word. well, anyway, the track i nominated was done by spring heel jack. spring heel jack are undeniably awesome. (the marine girls are great! better than st. etienne!)

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

so spring heel jack > marine girls > st etienne

chuck edateurist, Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"He's On the Phone" was St. Etienne's big "upmarket" single. There is no reason why that couldn't have been a massive hit.
It's unabashed lack of indie cred is the best thing about it.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

spring heel jack is pretty wanky after the first two records tho.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

or most other jungle.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

restraining myself from using the "r" word.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

SHJ's free jazz collaborations are great. Don't know how much they had to do with that though.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"He's On the Phone" was St. Etienne's big "upmarket" single. There is no reason why that couldn't have been a massive hit.
It's unabashed lack of indie cred is the best thing about it.

-- Barry Bruner (brune...), September 9th, 2004.


hmmmm that explains why it's my favorite st. etienne song!!!! :-0

amateur@@st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, because it's not like they were trying to make a Eurotrash song, but with an indie "spin". They made a Eurotrash song, period! And they were a billion times better at it than anybody else!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen SHJ- free jazz collabs live (don't have the record from those) - you'd think its good to see it being done, but the improvising kind of fell flat at times, as I vaguely remember.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say you'd definetely like that MIMEO record sundar.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Otomo Yoshihide, Cathode
The Dead C, The White House

Madonna, "Ray of Light"
Sweet Female Attitude, "Flowers"

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 9 September 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Grrrr..."Flowers" is 2000.

I'll take Blame's "2 Bad Mice Take You" instead, then.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 9 September 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the SHJ Live album I have is from the shows on Jan 22 and Jan 25 '03. Dunno if you were at those, Julio, but it sounds pretty great to me. I think Jordan found them disappointing too so maybe I'm just too easy to please;)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 10 September 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:
The Cure - Wish
Madonna - Ray Of Light

Singles:
The Cure - "Pictures of You"
Pet Shop Boys - "Can You Forgive Her"

Seb (Seb), Friday, 10 September 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"Pictures of You" is '89.

Anyway, it's Friday. Let's vote!

Vasquesz, Friday, 10 September 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

22 1/2 hours til nominations close! (midnight pacific time)

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 10 September 2004 07:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i think SFA 'Flowers' is borderline '99 and the track was probably recorded that Summer at least Michael

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 10 September 2004 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I don' think there's really any getting away from the fact that SFA's 'Flowers' is 2000.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

only in the same way that 'I Luv U' was 2003 but whatever

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What, you heard 'Flowers' before it was released?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I am v.hungover and don't really understand anything right now - please ignore me.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

erm, yes, on the radio and TV. the first time i heard it was December '99 in all honesty.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

haha & to think I was gonna change speed limit to trapdoor fucking exit; thanx julio/michael. i'm fairly happy w/90s new zealand music being represented by "how bizarre" & harsh 70s reality . . .

. . . instead, I'll change my album nomination from speed limit 140+bpm volume 3 : the joint to missy elliot's supa dupa fly.

(I'm gonna feel guilty for not nominating fatboy slim, I know it.)

etc, Friday, 10 September 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think matos, porkpie and the others this applies to realise they still have another album nomination they can make according to my list

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

people with track nominations still to be made:

josh love
fernando
ryan
penelope111
shookout
chris andrews

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Singles:

Madonna - Deeper & Deeper
Amira - My Desire (Dreem Teem Mix)

Albums:

Kitchens of Distinction - The Death of Cool
Grooverider (V/A) - Hardstep Selection II

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

People who wanted to vote for "Flowers' plz vote for "My Desire" instead. Thanks!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

TINA MOORE!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

How on earth did ppl nominate the second jeru album but not the first?

I nominated it for the crazy illogical reason that I like it better.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"Pictures of You" is '89.
The parent album, yes, but the single was released in Feb 1990, IIRC.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Date of first release should always be followed, if only to annoy stevem.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Well it's still eighties music.

Vasquesz, Friday, 10 September 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Nominations:

Albums:
Guitar Paradise of East Africa (is this okay?)
Freedy Johnson - Can You Fly

Songs:
Chris Bell - I Am The Cosmos (is this okay?)
A Tribe Called Quest - Luck of Lucien

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris Bell - I Am The Cosmos (is this okay?)

Didn't he die in 1978?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

But the album came out in 92 ; I'm not sure if this song was released as a single back when he was still breathing..

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It's about tracks not singles.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

singles

beatnuts - watch out now
blink-182 - dammit

albums

a*teens - the abba generation
juvenile - 400 degreez

artiste (artiste), Friday, 10 September 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

How much time left?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted / Kill At Will*
Paul Schutze - New Maps Of Hell

*I assume this is OK, they're on the same CD. If not, then just the first record of the 2.

Singles:

Paris Angels - "All On You (Perfume)"
Gang Starr feat. Nice n Smooth - "DWYCK"

charles e w, Friday, 10 September 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

As much as I like Buju Banton and "Champion", I'd like to rescind my nomination for it and push Wu-Tang Clan's "C.R.E.A.M." back on to list. May be considered too polished compared to other Wu songs, but C.R.E.A.M. lays out the whole Wu esthetic. That being said, I was close to adding the all Wu weave "Protect Ya Neck".

Gregory T (tubesocks), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Gang Starr feat. Nice n Smooth - "DWYCK"

yes! lemonades all around!

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 10 September 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, this is my last chance to make my nominations, so (and this is VERY HARD, as there are a bunch I really wish were in there - and I've succumbed to choosing things that might get a reasonable number of votes, tempted as I was by Boymerang, Q-Bert and Jonny L in the albums, and MC Buzz B, Beres Hammond, DJ SS and the Persuasions in tracks. I hate that Back For Good and Waterfalls aren't in there, too):

albums
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman

tracks
Hanson - Mmmbop
Kelis - Get Along With You

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 10 September 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

4 hours and fifty minutes, guys.

I'll post the info on submitting ballots and final points system later tonight/tomorrow morning!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 11 September 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Albums:

Sonny Sharrock - Ask The Ages
Royal Trux - Sweet Sixteen

Songs:

R. Kelly feat. Keith Murray - "Home Alone"
Shania Twain - "Any Man of Mine"

Reed Moore (diamond), Saturday, 11 September 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

beatnuts - watch out now

HERO

Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 11 September 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kill at Will" was originally a separate EP, it was only paired with "AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted" on a reissue which came out a year or two ago, so I think only "AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted" should make the list. But thank you very much for nominating it anyway, the album list is now almost perfect for me.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 11 September 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

You might want to specify on the final list that Pinkerton is by Weezer, that The Life and Times of S. Carter is Vol. 3, that the Caifanes album is El Silencio, stuff like that. (And you should vote for all three of those.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hi. last change:

replace tindersticks simple pleasure

with

shania twain come on over

thanks!!!

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

nominations are closed now! when I get home from work I'll put up the list of candidates. There will be thirty choices each tracks and LPs. Better to have too many than too few, am I right?

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 11 September 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Correct! :)

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 11 September 2004 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)

We're not really going to allow Chris Bell are we?

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 September 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

Been searching for the results of this poll to no avail. Help!

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 20 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

I think I found 'em secondhand pasted here - THE 1990s POLL RESULTS - THE ALBUMS

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 20 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)


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