Christgau on Rilo Kiley in the Voice

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any thoughts? i, for one, am pleased as punch to see them getting such props.

― Drew Lichtenberg, Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

where are jenny's pants?

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I like her stuff alright but I don't like the guy (esp. when he had that hideous little moustache). Haven't heard the new album.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

is it true that one of the bullies from Boy Meets World is in that band!?

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

She was in FOXFIRE! ROWR!

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Blake Sennett's TV acting resume is on imdb under the name Blake Soper.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

one of the other 3 bullies was the "it's not a schooner, it's a sailboat" guy in Mallrats and played Ashton's goth friend in The Butterfly Effect, but the other bully doesn't seem to have done much since BMW.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yep, i was just gonna say he played Pinsky on Salute Your Shorts.

― reo, Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

And Jenny was in the fantastic feature-length Nintendo commercial 'The Wizard' with Fred Savage. I think she also did a film with Ben Savage, but I haven't seen it. Anyway, I have a secret love for Rilo Kiley, even if they can be insufferably sweet (the most wee US band?), they can be a lot of fun and very pleasant too. Blake's character in Boy Meets World was 'Joey the Rat', which is a great nickname too.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

there's pictures of Jenny Lewis with Jake Gyllenhaal at the Donnie Darko premiere. Did he date her TOO? wtf. asshole needs to die.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"The most wee US band" - childish insult or typo? Should of course be 'twee'.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

they're too country to be the most twee

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"Portions for Foxes" is easily one of the best songs I've heard this year.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

But you'd have to think that not calling it "Bad News" eats into airplay and record sales.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

But you'd have to think that not calling it "Bad News" eats into airplay and record sales.

Yeah, I commented on this earlier over in the Great Songs with Throwaway Titles thread.

― Talent Explosion (Talent Explosion), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

this album sounds like lilith fair-era outtakes from some alt-chancers

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't that what it is?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

though isn't jenny lewis more dick-friendly than the lilith squad?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i was just shocked given the love they get from the indie stepford wives crowd is all

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

She cusses = fuck the Liliths. They were on Barsuk & Saddle Creek = smell the indie glove. I am quite fond of this album, and of the group in general. Shoo wop.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think I'll ever forgive sennett for that moustache he had for awhile

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway she can be friendly with certain dicks any time if you know what i'm sayin

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"Portions for Foxes" is bright, unabashed POP.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.stp.uh.edu/vol68/60/arts/rilo.jpg

what ever erotic appeal Jenny Lewis gives the band was cancelled by bruno puntz jones on the right.

i lot of girls I know think she's the best dressed indie person ever. I think that's possible.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to admit, I'm a little scared to hear the rest of the album.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

they gave one of the worst, most corniest indiest fuckiest interviews i've ever read

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"i like seeing people walk down the street dressed like me because i know they're going to be into the same stuff i'm into"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

get the hook!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yikes!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

wow I lost that notion around the same time they were hangin' with ben savage

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I honestly think Jenny is definitely one of the best lyricists in indie rock right now by a long shot. She's smart, funny, tragic, in all the right ways. It was nice to see Christgau make a point of commending the "It's a Hit" lyrics, especially after the P-fork douchebag so flagrantly missed the point of them in his/her review (I wondered if the reviewer took exception to the anti-Bush slant).

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

She looks like David Johansen in that picture.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

But in a good way.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

is it my imagination, or does the album fall apart after 3 or 4 songs?

― chuck, Friday, 3 September 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a serious dislike for them based on the name. For some irrational reason it really irritates me and I can't get past it.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard anything by them but both of Christgau's pieces don't inspire me much. Then again I seem to be the only person who wonders what exactly the fuss about the New Pornographers is too, and lately I've been divesting my collection of a huge amount of the power-pop-and-related stuff which I realized I don't need any more.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

there's WAY more personality to Rilo than the New Ps.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Personality or just, you know, quirk? (I'm not trying to bait here, but I'm often suspicious of that as a term -- especially if it's not applied to the music!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

more memorable lyrics, distinct persona. though I know you and lyrics aren't tight.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a big Rilo fan but I can totally see them crossing over to the mainstream on charm and hooks more so than the New P's (who are totally an indie-pop deal).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

though I know you and lyrics aren't tight.

Rather. FUCK ATTEMPTS AT POETRY YOU BASTARDS JUST DO MY HEAD IN FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. Sorry, venting a bit.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

haha I like it when Ned types in caps.

― artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ned needs a new schtick

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, and you don't?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

dont we all xpost

― artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually don't think anyone needs to change whatever schtick they might have. The whole point is that's a wound-up ball of bias positive or negative that reacts to what it encounters. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally read that wink emoticon as a middle finger

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes a wink emoticon is just a wink emoticon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

jess and ned kinda cancel each other out

― artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It's that shared vowel.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think chuck might be right about the album falling apart. Well, not so much that, but it jest never goes anywhere. I've only listened to it a few times, but the first couple it seemed I pressed play then next thing I knew I was at the end of the album. There don't seem to be any, and I hate the term, 'stand-out' tracks. But I guess if this is going to be a breakthrough album (and it could be, but probably not), there is plenty to fall in love with about it is as a poor Rilo Kiley album - still intelligent, interesting lyrics and nice melodies; especially if this is the first of their albums you hear. As it is, it really doesn't live up to the older albums. Maybe after a few more listens it will shift into focus though.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the fuck is Rilo Kiley and why are they all of a sudden EVERYWHERE?

I already hate them and their stupid hipster promo.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

What are they like live? I really loved the New Pornographers' live show, but am not that crazy about their studio work.

― Amy Meacham, Friday, 3 September 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw em in Cambridge with M Ward a while ago. Decent show. They were the pickup band for Ward and then did a set. Jenny played the Holiday for a Hanging song solo for an encore, and it was pretty great. I gotta agree with Bob. Song of the year in somebody's universe where literal songcraft is still rewarded.

― Drew, Friday, 3 September 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

indie stepford wives crowd

I just noticed this intriguing description!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Despite her cussing and her clever lyrics I find the production smooths and blands the whole thing out. The Patsy Cline comparisons I read somewhere seem a bit overboard too.

― steve-k, Friday, 3 September 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh. This acclaim makes my head hurt. Since I have such a B-A-D association w/ this band, as one of my ex-friends from the last two years of college was really, really into them....he was basically the prototypical indie boy that DID have wet dreams every other night over Ms. Lewis, and Xgau couldn't be any more accurate in saying she is in many ways an Indie Ideal to these sorts of self-absorbed emo males. His badge of pride was based on how close he'd come to having an actual conversation w/ her at their concerts...not that that's unusual when it comes to fandom, but it was still an excessive and relentless affection (or affectation), and wearysome to the rest of us to somewhat judge EVERY OTHER GIRL by this ideal. Either this or the fact that the girl is wearing weezer-y emo glasses...then they're fine. Otherwise, uh-uh.

They are indigenous to the Laurel and/or Coldwater Canyon areas, or something Valley-ish. Then they went all Saddle Creek, 2002 happened, Bright Eyes labelmates SPIN photospreads...blah blah blah....and now, apparently, the full-force media resurrection has begun. I am surprised that Ms. Lewis is only 27ish, because it seems like they've been around a long time...

She's supposedly really nice in person, and "not LA" at all, whatever that means anymore. But I remember (being forced to) listening to The Execution of All Things when it came out (and it was on a trip to Calabasas, of all places), and nothing really stuck with me aside from the arrangements. She has a pretty voice, but the full impact seemed hollow, and in toto all sentiment conveyed was wayyyy wayyyy too precious - for my tastes anyway. It's not just "twee," but studied, art-y, pretentious, awkward twee... which made it seem belabored, with the overintellectualization cancelling the prettiness out. Just the sort of thing to mope to as you brooded over your yellow-fever, trend- inspired Asian girlfriend not calling you back because your strokesian hair might have looked too symmetrical that day, with that vintage jacket not quite matching the Vons sneakers you were "rocking." Shit, no one told me this trustfund has a limit!!

But I should maybe listen to the new album before I make such comments. And hehe, erase those negative scene-y connotations from my psyche. Also, she IS genuinely hott, which does garner them some points. But the Wizard thing, sorry geeks - doesn't.

― FuckIndieFashion (Vic), Friday, 3 September 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Rilo Kiley is the epitome of excruciating mediocrity.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 3 September 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

this album is shit poopingly sucky. hated it!

― big chaki (chaki), Friday, 3 September 2004 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://erik.justrockandroll.com/news/uploads/hated%20it.JPG

― big chaki (chaki), Friday, 3 September 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck is OTM upthread, the first three tracks are brilliant and I was all set to anoint RK ready to make The Leap, then they retreat back under the big 'ol indie-rock security blanket:

[url]http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=2287[/url]

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 3 September 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the band, but resent them everytime I try to download Kiley Dean and find a bunch of Rilo KIley tracks instead.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get the Rilo Kiley/Jenny Lewis thing. Their music is really boring and lame, and there are lots and lots and lots of indie girls better looking and better dressed.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

who are these girls and where have they been hiding?

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose that you didn't go to an art school, huh, Josh?

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG she has the same name as my baby's momma!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never heard of them til now I think.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The good parts (i.e, the first three songs) remind me more of Liz Phair's 2003 album than of the New Pornographers (who I too don't get the appeal of at all). I could see a Phair-type indie-to-pop crossover happening. I do think the glossy poppification helps some, given how forgettably indie their earlier stuff sounded, though - though then again, it's not like I listened to it much, so who knows?

― chuck, Friday, 3 September 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Urgh my gf likes them a lot and made me go to their concert with her. I'm not sure why I feel this aversion towards them, the music is pleasant and the lyrics are occasionally interesting. But something about them really turns me off.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The second track sucks. what the fuck is good about that song?

The first song has a really cool guitar lick in the fourth verse which makes the song better than a decent little tune. but a stupid first single unless you plan on putting out another single pretty soon afterwards.. Its definitely not a hit. Third track is quite good, and im sure if your in high school it would sound fucking brilliant... but the best tracks are obviously the Title track, and track Ten. Other than that there a bunch of "eh this song is all right but i'll skip this track to get the next".. and i quite like the last track too. that stupid Love and War song sucks too, and its sequenced in the wrong place on the album too.

its not nearly as good as Execution, which is a really good album that if it came out in the mid 90's everybody would be going ga-ga over it these days. its like an alternahit gone missing. and its a little long. like this post.

― brontosaur, Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i've listened to it probably like over 20 times.. or at least i listened to it all the way through like five times, got over my reservations about really liking it, fell in love with almost all of it, and eventually got to the point where i listen to the same 4 or 5 tracks over and over again. 4 or 5 tracks is all you really need for a good album anyways... they can't all be Van Morrison's Moondance.

― brontosaur, Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought you meant girls who fronted indie bands, not just indie girls in general, Matt - as to the former, I can only think of Emily Haines from Metric and Corin Tucker from Sleater-Kinney as being particularly fetching.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 4 September 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

best dressed indie person ever

haha high praise indeed!

(I hadn't either, Nick.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 4 September 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I kinda like Rilo Kiley, but I've only heard Foxes off the new album. I like the sort of new wave country vibe they have going on some of their tracks. Some of them are pretty unlistenable however.

I totally don't get the Jenny Lewis love. She's not even nothing special. She's the type of girl I adopt the defensive scowl to dissuade. I can't think of any indy girls I like really though, so maybe she's just not my thing. Oh, except Charlotte Hatherly. She counts right? Oh, and the Valksdyottir twins. And Hope Sandoval.

― minolta (minolta), Saturday, 4 September 2004 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

brontosaur may well be right about the second song being crummy - you'll notice that, in my first post,i said the album gets dull after 3 or 4 songs." so maybe by "the first 3 songs" later, i actually meant "the first 3 songs i liked," as in tracks #1, 3, and 4. i haven't played the CD for a few weeks, so i forget, but that sounds right, actually. i also forget whether i ever got as far as # 10.

― chuck, Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Rilo Kiley sucks baaaaaad

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, FuckIndieFashion's post is the indiest thing I've ever read in my life!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

This being my favorite part:

"But I should maybe listen to the new album before I make such comments"

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

THEY'RE NO SAHARAH HOTNIGHTS, THAT'S FOR SURE HAHAHAHA

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

it might kinda cool if they all played wearing powergloves.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

basically my new rule is that any band the rat faced indie pedo at work likes is off limits.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I like that one sahara album i got in the mail. i will probably never hear rilo kiley. much like i will never hear xgau faves olds 97 either. wait, that was there name, right? eh, wotever.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

(so far this includes the polyphonic spree, rilo kiley, and other bands i probably could have learned to hate on my own.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

it's easy to live without this stuff.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

b-but nada surf!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

it does kinda hurt when these people are into something good tho

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://c.myspace.com/00016/22/09/16919022_l.jpg

IF THIS CORNY INDIE FUCK LIKES THEM, I HATE IT

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

nb: by "good" i do not mean "nada surf"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHA scott fuckindiefashion = me (i just assume everyone else on here turns on that preference to show user names, once i was shown how to do it....?) - now i feel depressed!

― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Vic, I do

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

incidentally, my ex-friend flirted with being a "hope sandoval solo artist" fan too, and would pledge to be one, even though he couldn't get into mazzy star. maybe bcoz it isnt as hip-sounding as "hope sandoval's solo stuff"

jon, welcome back. a week w/o u here seems pretty long

― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, I thought that was you, Vic. Hey, aren't you supposed to be at an ashram right now?

― Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

nb: by "good" i do not mean "nada surf"

Order is restored.

Vic, I thought you were supposed to be out of town! If you're around tonight we're dragooning you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, x-post! So yeah, Arthur, just make sure your cell is on, I'll call or someone will around 4, 5 pm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

OK!

― Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd just like to thank this thread for making me kinda excited about listening to this now (I was charged w/doing it anyhow). Not really because i think it'll be good, mind you.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

But Arthur, remind me, the number I was calling the other day WAS your cell and not a home number, right?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, my cell phone. I turn it off a lot and sometimes don't get messages for a few days. But I'll have it on today!

― Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

[[[[[[[[[[[Yeah but all that got cancelled! Not an ashram just was going to San Gabriel Mts - I have the flu hardcore as of 6 PM last night...::proof:: look on the

"what are people doing for the weekend" board:
Ugh!!!!! I think I am coming down with strep or something flu-like, as my throat feels like it's being ripped out by a thousand wolverines right now. It's that sore.... : ( fuck that air conditioning in the office....

this is going to ruin my entire week/end plans : (

-- Vic (fuc...), September 4th, 2004. (Vic) (later)

that was at like 5 AM after i kept waking up due to the $#%$% taste in my mouth. Now i'm just sitting around sucking on Vitamin C tablets, thinking about how my work schedule is impacted by all this. ]]]]]]]]]]]]]

::::predictable but at least honest attempt to stay on-topic:::
- but it's still better than listening to Rilo Kiley!

― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 4 September 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Rilo Kiley never did much for me before, but I love "Portions for Foxes." Still have to hear the rest.

― Sara Sherr, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

jenny was a bitch to me one time when i was talking about how great in my store pink flyd was she was like "oh i dont like them!" all snotty but i didnt like the band way before that and now the new album is utter shit i laugh at suckers that buy that shit.

― big chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I find Rilo K and Belle & S similar in that their lyrics can be great, tunes/arrangements often catchy or at least clever but both of their vocal styles give me a vague, annoying itch that I can't scratch.

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 9 September 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...

OMG THE PAZZ & JIZZ POLL MADE ME DOWNLOAD SONG..I ACTUALLY AM STARTING TO LIKE PARTS OF THIS NOW....HELP HELP!!!!!!

WHHHHERE ARE ALL THE PPL WHO VOTED FOR THIS? OUT YOURSELVES...HOW THE HELL DID THEY GET TO # 14 WTF LOL

― v!ctorio, Sunday, 13 February 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

mixed feelings.... i like that she PROJECTS and worries about enunciation in a somewhat un-indie, almost "nashville sound" sort of way. but in practice the country twangy enunciation thing doesn't always work. their songs aren't usually too memorable. "pictures of success" gets way conventional and boring by the "climax" but i like those little guitar figures before that happens. "does he love you?" is a good lyric. this sounds really facile but i think their songs could be shorter.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

Pinsky? My mind has been blown.

I hear Donkey Lips works at City Walk, confirm/deny?

― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

TS: jenny toomey vs jenny lewis!

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 30 May 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

I hear Donkey Lips works at City Walk, confirm/deny?

Can't confirm it, but I have seen him around Culver City.

Also, this band is horrid. Her best performance is still The Wizard.

― Community Cornerstone (deangulberry), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

my god! I never new you could see users IDs even when people put in fake names....wow I feel omiscient!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

omniscient even!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

It's ok. I new what you meant.

― Community Cornerstone (deangulberry), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

worst band in the world.

― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

Bobby Budnick.

― PB, Monday, 30 May 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

Rilo Kiley is a great band. Deal with it.

― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

haha

― Community Cornerstone (deangulberry), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Danny Tamberelli of Pete and Pete plays drums in a prog-rock band!!!

― Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

"Portions for Foxes" is catchy and great.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

the bitterness and contempt on this thread are really unattractive. i have only heard one song before and i liked it. i like her bits on the postal service album though, so i guess the above namecallers would maybe write me off anyhow. oh well, somebody wanna mend my scarf?

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

I think if you knew people who've encountered JL and her toxic-diva attitude in person, you'd be amused at the contempt. Since last fall, I've only heard worse and worse things about her demonstrably snotty (and changed) personality, from a friend who lives downtown who used to be real tight w/ the band. It's all gone to her head now.

But you know, whatever - the music is supposed to stand apart from the musician. And I still admit to liking a handful of songs from her latest album, particularly the singles; her voice is undeniable. The scarves are fine too, but I wish she wouldnt get so much credit for basically inventing them.

― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

She sings out of tune. Do people realize this and not mind, or not realize it?

― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE TOLD US OH GOD THIS IS EMBARASSING

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I could derail every indie thread by talking about Boy Meets World.

― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

This thread is so old ILM.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

ned needs a new schtick

-- jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:21 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

Dude, and you don't?

-- Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:22 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oddly I like the song by the guy more than anything else on the album, maybe because he took the whole "new Lindsey Buckingham" hype and decided if you're gonna tango in the night, you need to fucking Tango In The Night.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE TOLD US OH GOD THIS IS EMBARASSING

I will take this as a vote for option 2.

― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I actually haven't heard the one by the guy? Is it sung by the guy?

― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

on the NEW album, I should specify. On More Adventurous he's still on that wack Conor shit.

x-post she does back-up

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

"Dreamworld" on Kimmel, maybe it's the new single!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWqEn8RqEQc

I like how Jenny hates pants now.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

Like, REALLY hates pants.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

huh god they really fuck up the instrumental break

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

They went through Mirage and Tango in the Night without ever making Rumours; hell, Jenny Lewis has already recorded her Belladonna.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

I fucking love "Dreamworld." Between this and Midlake's "Roscoe," I'm enjoying the Fleetwood Mac mini-renaissance.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Why are they being compared to Fleetwood Mac, did some of them fuck?

― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

Blake Sennett and Jenny Lewis. I don't think the drummer's fucking either of them though.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus Christ.

― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

They went through Mirage and Tango in the Night without ever making Rumours; hell, Jenny Lewis has already recorded her Belladonna.

what r u talkin bout

― gff, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

folk-pop to spacey vaguely electro pop, with no songs about gold dust women and songbirds.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

+ sucking real hard all the way through

― gff, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know, the above clip kinda sounds like Sonic Youth minus the weird tunings to me.

hahah

― JN$OT, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

the album version is way glossier

http://www.myspace.com/rilokiley

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

nothing on the rest of the album sounds like Mac at all, though.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

the new album is really slight, but I enjoy about half of it

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm listening to it right now for the first time since I first got it about a month ago...sounds nice. Initially, I was definitely far more impressed by More Adventurous, though.

― JN$OT, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I'm still far more impressed by More Adventurous.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Absolutely--I don't really understand why Alfred seemed to prefer the new one to such an extent on his blog. Explain thyself, Alfred (j/k)!

― JN$OT, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

well, I've cooled on it. I still prefer it to the others.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

The last two tracks seem to drag a bit, but tracks 1 - 9 make for a pretty damn good album. I think I preferred Jenny's solo record as well, though.

― JN$OT, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

She sings out of tune. Do people realize this and not mind, or not realize it?

-- roxymuzak, Tuesday, October 9, 2007 8:00 AM (12 hours ago)

i think they're too focused on her TITTAYS
http://www.rilokiley.net/gallery/albums/shows/2005/0221/022105_09.jpg

― gershy, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:44 (eighteen years ago)

Fair enough! Tho the rest of her's nothing to sneeze at.

― President Evil, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

Why don't they just look at her picture instead of reviewing their records? Sheesh.

― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

hey, roxy - start wearing minidresses and see yer career take off!

― gershy, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 04:32 (eighteen years ago)

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