Ppl who don't like the New Radicals have no soul

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I'm drunk so I thought it was time to draw a line in the sand you fuckers.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:08 (twenty years ago)

If you think the New Radicals embody soul, you're whiter than I am.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:09 (twenty years ago)

Souless beast!

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:11 (twenty years ago)

They suck(ed). But beyond their indisputable suckage, they're also ancient history. Why are you even concerned with them? They were a meaningless, flash-in-pan, momentary floater who were deservedly flushed.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:12 (twenty years ago)

They're all fakes let's kick their ass in!

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:12 (twenty years ago)

Bcuz the single and the first track give my life meaning.
And make me happy.

the new radicals are home.

if I could ask god just one question....

WHY AREN'T YOU HERE WITH ME?!

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:13 (twenty years ago)

Need I remind you Alex...

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:17 (twenty years ago)

http://www.1docholiday.com/carmela-punk-look.jpg

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:17 (twenty years ago)

What? That people are idiots? This is not a newsflash.

Stick with your hip hop, djdee...you are clearly lost when it comes to other genres.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.madhouse-online.freeserve.co.uk/np/archive/sheep/darkages02.gif

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:23 (twenty years ago)

Blah blah "stick to my genre" whatever whatever everyone can like pop and this is brilliant pop rock. Top notch. Perfect.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh sweet felching jesus...RAISE YOUR DAMN STANDARDS!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh come on, you know John Mayer eats these chumps for breakfast.

― oops (Oops), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago)

Joni Mitchell likes them.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:33 (twenty years ago)

Joni Mitchell is a drunkard just like the rest of them.

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:37 (twenty years ago)

Joni Mitchell is a virus.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:39 (twenty years ago)

This thread is great! Everybody keep up the good work.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:42 (twenty years ago)

The guy went on to produce other cool stuff too, right? I forget what. But yeah we need more tear-up-tha-mall videos, especially ones with like blaque getting in on the action.

Speaking of which people who don't like blaque have no soul.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:48 (twenty years ago)

might I remind people that we are talking about the New Radicals?

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:54 (twenty years ago)

http://www.canadians.ca/celebs/joni_mitchell-slide.jpg http://www.darknebula.org/writings/review_timemachine/morlock_sm.jpg

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:58 (twenty years ago)

i always thought that trading standards should have intervened as they are neither 'new' or 'radical'

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Saturday, 4 September 2004 07:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/earth/wagon/danielle/gif/gregg.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 4 September 2004 07:09 (twenty years ago)

I love the new radicals cus they are fun and groovy.

Some people feel offended by those qualities in music. I have no idea why.

― supercub, Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:09 (twenty years ago)

DONT LET GO
YOU'VE GOT THE MUSIC IN YOU

what other good songs did they do

― artiste (artiste), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago)

"other"?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:50 (twenty years ago)

what's worse is that they aren't even original. they ripped off world party who were a yuppie-flu versin of the beatles...!

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Mother We Just Can't Get Enough is a good one

Alex did the New Radicals guy hurt your puppy or something?

― supercub, Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago)

yesterday someone was playing a combination of new radicals and jamiquuri really fucking loud. it was so awful. blandness turned up to eleven. i never want to experience that again.

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I'll agree with Jamiquuri bashing

― supercub, Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Alex did the New Radicals guy hurt your puppy or something?

I just take exception to whiney, preachy, sanctimonious, shrill shit. You obviously have less demanding ears, it seems. I have no idea why.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:00 (twenty years ago)

i mean, jamiewocky and new radicals - same band, really, isn't it?

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:00 (twenty years ago)

My ears are offended.

― supercub, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Well, Jay Kay wore a few more hats than Gregg Alexander. And a better dancer, for whatever that's worth. And more into Stevie Wonder than Todd Rundgren.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah but the same degrees of blandness are still there and both sound surprisingly similar as i was treated to both, yesterday, by my downstairs neighbour.

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Jay Kay is a twat, right?

Who is his mother again?

― supercub, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:04 (twenty years ago)

I'd never want to be accused of defending Jamiroquai, but they had a lot more groove than the lumpen plonky plink wheezing of the New Radicals.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago)

but new radicals just *barely* win the contest of the blander for ripping off world party.

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago)

new radicals and jamiroquai = edgy music for people who don't like edgy music.

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:09 (twenty years ago)

i.e. the office party choice! (put in stereophonics, oasis, etc in that catergory)

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:10 (twenty years ago)

sort of: hey let's listen to the new radicals and go and look at public sculptures!

― doomie x, Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:12 (twenty years ago)

Ppl who don't like the Black Eyed Peas have no soul.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:20 (twenty years ago)

So, is it me? Or are the Black Eyed Peas really embarassing?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Do I have to put Satire tags round everything?

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:28 (twenty years ago)

HE DID "LIFE IS ROLLERCOASTER" FOR RONAN KEATING PEOPLE! STOP THIS MADNESS!

Let's have a look at the worst lyrics in history again shall we?

Hey baby, you really
Got me flying tonight
Hey sugar, you almost
Got us punched in a fight
(That's all right)

PUNCHED IN A FIGHT? F.U.C.K.S.S.A.K.E.!!!!!!!

If I ever see him in a bar I'm going to find the hardest bastard in there and tell him "Hey, that prick from Westlife just called you a child-molester" and point at Ronan. Because it's a perfectly acceptable thing to do to Our Keats according to this slabbering piece of brainslop.

― Gribowitz (Lynskey), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:34 (twenty years ago)

a fine example of music for people who don't like music.
(or crap for people with no taste)

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Saturday, 4 September 2004 11:04 (twenty years ago)

all i know by world party is their cover of all the young dudes on the clueless soundtrack, and you get what you give is much better than that, and no beatles single has ever made me feel as unreservedly happy as ygwyg has!

this was a personally "important" single to me too as at the time it helped get me back into listening to pop music

i dont see how people can hate a song with so many hooks and great moments and face themselves in the mirror in the morning

― artiste (artiste), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:07 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE ALEX IN NYC!!!

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago)

People who like the New Radicals have no ears.

― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago)

YES!!!!

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I downloaded the two singles. I now like the New Radicals much more, and Alex much less.

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago)

you suck shit

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Me liking the New Radicals wouldn't change my opinion of Alex In NYC. I would be dissappointed if he liked them.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Personally I'm more taken by the fact that he was from Detroit but pretended to be from Windsor (or vice versa).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I really hated that guy's look. The song was fine. And I like Danielle Brisebois OK, though it's not like I've ever noticed her contributions to the band.

― Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Did she ever have any contributions? The hat contributed more to the band than anyone else besides the main guy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I downloaded the two singles. I now like the New Radicals much more, and Alex much less.

Whew this made my hangover worth it! The world is a better place.

Incidently the guy's "look" was rather bland itself which is why ppl mad at him for it confuse me. grrr, you wore a hat, you bastard! Etc.

Moments of pop perfection that are too rare to come by.

Criticizing something like this for "ripping off" some other band misses the point entirely. ENTIRELY.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Moments of pop perfection that are too rare to come by.

But since perfection differs for everyone...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)

haha betweel the spelling of "ppl" and the defense of random 90's alterna-rock I half-expected this thread to be the return of Ethan.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Nonsense. This is ILM, I'm trying to firmly set the New Radicals on the positive side of the hive mind.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago)

xpost to ned obv

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago)

New Radicals bring a great big smile to my face.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago)

This is ILM, I'm trying to firmly set the New Radicals on the positive side of the hive mind.

I thought you hated canons! ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)

3RD EYE BLIND RULES

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Ned I know when I'm beat - the canon is so infirmly entrenched that Hey Ya and Kid A are our favorite musical moments of the 2000s! There's no resistence possible. The best you can do is make sure yr favorite music is on the right side of the fence.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago)

I'd imagine New Radical guy and nu-Andre 3000 have a lot in common, musically.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago)

I agree DJ's is a noble goal.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago)

at least if they had called themselves the "free radicals" they could get off on the chemistry allusion, but no.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I remember the first time I heard "You Get What You Give" on the radio I thought it might be World Party and I kinda liked it until it got to the corny celeb-baiting bit at the end and saw the goofy video.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago)

also I kind of respect NR for being one of the quickest confirmations of one-hit-wonder status ever; I recall that basically as soon as the 2nd single didn't do well he declared the breakup of the band.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago)

1. The video was awesome! Kids ripping shit up at a mall, man, how american is that?!
2. I don't think his breaking up the band had anything to do w/ lack of success of the second single (which probably did fairly well) and more to do w/ the fact that he was uncomfortable in the roll of frontman, which is why he went behind the scenes to produce music.

Incidently, he did a song for Hanson on their new album! Apparently he no longer hates them.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago)

He hated Hanson? Wimpiest pop spat EVER.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Well, he said they were fake and he wanted to kick their asses in.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago)

HAHAHAHAH

Sorry, now I think he broke up the band because he looked at himself in the mirror and said, "Wait, MY band is fake, fuck this!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I downloaded the two singles. I now like the New Radicals much more, and Alex much less.

Oh boo hoo. Eat me.

I really hated that guy's look.

Incidentally, "pre-hat" Gregg Alexander:

http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/sn_legacy/addict/AMG_images/artists/P03132.JPG http://ubl.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGPORTRAITS/music/portrait200/drp000/p031/p03131h2up8.jpg

It should also be noted that Gregg Alexander wrote the duet between Santana and....fuck...what's her name? Not Vanessa Carlton, but that other moppet.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Michelle Branch.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

But he also co-wrote "Murder on the Dancefloor"!

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

The hat was an improvement. Shoegaze goth pouts should only be handled by professionals.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Looks a bit like he was going for a Jeff Buckley vibe there, actually.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago)

"The Game Of Love" was great, even though it shamelessly recycles the best part of the NR hit, (the one long high note in the verse).

haha Gregg Alexander's publishing company is called Keepin' It Real How 'Bout You Music!

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago)

And I like Danielle Brisebois OK, though it's not like I've ever noticed her contributions to the band.

....nor did anyone (apart from some tamborine-shaking in the second video), but that certainly hasn't stopped her from shooting her mouth off about it as if she'd helped carve the fuckin' Rosetta Stone.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe you guys even have any recollection of the 2nd single/video! I watched 120 minutes and listened to alt-rock radio pretty heavily back then and I don't remember hearing the follow-up at all!

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago)

did this guy write Michelle Branch and Santana's "The Game Of Love"? It has that same high note hook. I don't mind the two New Radicals singles, they're dippy but sweet. The videos annoy me because he looks like one of the few people on this planet who Beck and Hanson could probably kick in the ass of. I think he worked on a Gerri Halliwell album or something too.

This definitely belongs in the 100 Singles That Signified That The Word "Alternative" Means Jack Shit. I think Avril Lavigne was the last one before NOBODY was using the phrase (actually she probably belongs in the "Punk" list more).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago)

I think I like the old look better. I was thinking Jeff Buckley, too. And Gene Loves Jezebel!

The fuckin' Rosetta Stone! Yay!

http://www.rocketcityrecords.com/ianmitchell/rosettastone.jpg

― Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I thought you meant these dudes.

http://www.rosetta-stone.org.uk/gallery/thumbs/eyes.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I was so going to dig up a pic of them.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Beck [and] Hanson

― Krankenhaus, Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Banson

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Heck

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago)

the new radicals are still shit regardless tho.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Wrong.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago)

nope, i think you'll find me correct. in years to come you'll thank me.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Saturday, 4 September 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago)

'You Get What You Give' used to be a part of the ILM hivemind canon, as far as I can recall (maybe it was just that Tom had it on his list of the best 100 singles from the 90s). I still don't like it though. Not an anthem I want to sing.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 September 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I never thought I'd live in a world with "You Get What You Give" firmly placed on the right side of canonization. Thank god.

Next stop: Goo Goo Dolls' "Name" and Gin Blossoms' "Hey Jealousy".

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 4 September 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago)

"Hey Jealousy" is great!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 4 September 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Well I know that...

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 4 September 2004 19:54 (twenty years ago)

There should be a specific 'I'm drunk and I'm going to say whatever I want and you're going to applaud me you fuckers' thread on ILM.
It would clear up all those inhibitions in no time!

― Krankenhaus, Saturday, 4 September 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Giggle!
http://www.soundopinions.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=296

― Dero, Saturday, 4 September 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago)

i still enjoy "you get what you give" quite a lot.
and i remember finding some sort of comfort in it when it came out.
something about the song is really comforting, from the moment it opens with the tambourine shakes and then the guitar swirls.

LET IT WASH OVER YOU

― reo, Saturday, 4 September 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago)

Its a great song, no doubt about it.
And Sound Opinions are a bunch of fuckers, no doubt about it.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 4 September 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago)

Joni Mitchell wasn't the only aging venerated CHIKrock digger of NR...Patti Smith also praised praised praised it in one interview.

― Abbitt, Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:05 (twenty years ago)

DO U GUYZ LIKE SEMISONIC

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:14 (twenty years ago)

Well, I loathe Patti Smith, so pffffttt...

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:15 (twenty years ago)

ALEX DO YOU LIKE ANY FEMALE ARTISTS???

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago)

And Sound Opinions are a bunch of fuckers, no doubt about it.

Traitor. This is all because we don't like Hey Ya and Kid A as much as you guys, isn't it...

― Mexico, Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:33 (twenty years ago)

http://www.newarkmuseum.org/images/membership/okeeffe_sm.jpg

― artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:33 (twenty years ago)

Alex likes Wendy O. Williams.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:43 (twenty years ago)

Well, regardless of anything else this is a fucking FANTASTIC karaoke record. Along with "All the small things" it is entering my karaoke canon since last night.

― Jacob (Jacob), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:47 (twenty years ago)

Everyone who called it as a rip of World Party above-thread: OTM. From the clumsy, would-be-agitpop album title on down, dud. I wrote this in '98:

Until its shallow posturing gets to be just too much, Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too is fodder for a decent game of Spot the Influence. Singer/songwriter Gregg Alexander's admittedly well-crafted project is indebted to the vaguely funky pop-rock of World Party. But despite airplay for the single "You Get What You Give," he isn't tuneful enough to make his empty social pronouncements stick as more than fleeting entertainment, and when he starts dissing his hooky betters Courtney Love and Beck as "fakes," there's little to do but laugh. At him, not with him. --Rickey Wright

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:12 (twenty years ago)

ALEX DO YOU LIKE ANY FEMALE ARTISTS???

Oh Yawnapalooza, are you going to hit my with the misogyny tag now? Okay, suffragette, I'll play your little game.

Female Artists I like....
- Siouxsie Sioux, Kate Bush, Wendy Orlean Williams, Miki Berenyi, Liz Fraser, Exene Cervenka, Lydia Lunch, Laurie Anderson, Deborah Harry, Chrissie Hynde, Neneh Cherry, Sarah McLachlan, Lisa Gerard, Bjork, Jennifer Charles (Elysian Fields), Alison Goldfrapp, Joan Jett, Lita Ford, the fuckin' Go-Gos, Pauline Murray, PJ Harvey, Liz Phair, Johnette Napolitano, Karen O...and a bunch more.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, not fleeting entertainment!

"isn't tuneful" haha

― djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Alex you are so easy.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:31 (twenty years ago)

Also "You Get What You Give" >>>> Anything Courtney Love has ever released.

― djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:32 (twenty years ago)

Also "You Get What You Give" >>>> Anything Courtney Love has ever released.

Not really saying much, though, is it.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:36 (twenty years ago)

heh no its not, but you know.

― djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.princeton.edu/~mgeorges/Archives/Pictures/3_19_03/mario_nail_princess.gif

― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:58 (twenty years ago)

Even if it works as fleeting entertainment, it's fleeted by now, innit?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 5 September 2004 07:17 (twenty years ago)

"no soul" heh heh

Are you still drunk, BTW?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 5 September 2004 07:18 (twenty years ago)

If "you get what you give" was put on that voyager satellite probe (that NASA sent many years ago to tell hypothetical alien civilizations about earth), I bet you a War of the Worlds/Independence Day scenariowould become a reality pretty fast.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 07:27 (twenty years ago)

Even Paul Shaffer seems to have stopped playing it a couple of years back.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 5 September 2004 07:28 (twenty years ago)

Giving this more thought than it's worth (but less posts than djdee), how 'bout if I change it to "he isn't tuneful enough to make his empty social pronouncements stick as EVEN fleeting entertainment"? Pro-pop enough for you? After all, I still listen to the Partridge Family. And Annie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregg "Larry Blackmon's Lawyer Didn't Call, Did He?" Alexander.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 5 September 2004 07:59 (twenty years ago)

Alex in NYC hates it, so obviously "You Get What You Give" is ace. Can we add something to the ILX FAQ to this effect? Maybe with a heading "What is pabulum and can you eat it?"

No, seriously, this is a great song. I'm surprised this thread has been so anti (and the lack of good taste of Frenchbloke in particular across a range of threads has depressed me exceedingly); I always assumed the track was one of those rare exceptions where *everyone* felt compelled to acknowledge its awesomeness.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago)

You were mistaken.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Alex I don't think you're eligible for jury duty.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago)

Fucking FANTASTIC song.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:40 (twenty years ago)

I mean it man

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 5 September 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Heh one of the most divisive songs on ILM I guess then.

― djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago)

ronan keating "life is a rollercoaster"

another alexander belter. i like "you get what you give" very much as well, its recent appearance on the easy-listening comp at work was most welcome. the air conditioning was broken the last few days, so this track was a breath of fresh air during the clammy, stuffy working day. i was thinking of setting up a new radicals thread, but i was beaten to it.

is the new radicals album worth getting? actually, i think a friend of mine has it, i may borrow it.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago)

The opening track is fantastic. Nothing on the album really touches the opening track ("Mother we Just can't Get Enough") or "Get What You Give," but there are some alright pop moments within.

― djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Goo Goo Dolls' "Name"

A lovely, lovely song.

I always assumed the track was one of those rare exceptions where *everyone* felt compelled to acknowledge its awesomeness.

Good lord, man. This isn't "One More Time" or "Romeo" we're talking about.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Giggle!
http://www.soundopinions.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=296

-- Dero (jimder...), September 4th, 2004. (later)

is yhat really Jimbo ??

― Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:18 (twenty years ago)

I doubt it, but I'm pretty sure everyone saw the link the first time PS: sound opinions is a bunch of fuckers.

― djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago)

hey THEIR nick looks like Greg Dulli too!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago)

FWIW, i like the song somewhat when i'm listening to it but hate it when it starts bashing marilyn and courtney, hate the video, hate gregg alexander etc etc

― Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago)

The video is great! Kids at the mall knocking shit over. I love it.

― djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 00:43 (twenty years ago)

There was something really bizarre about a Doobie Bros. throwback that still gets played on adult contemporary radio being joined to a "kidz rule! down with the man! CHAOS!" video back when that came out.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:47 (twenty years ago)

it was easily the least punk sounding song I'd ever seen on 120 Minutes.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago)

"The video is great! Kids at the mall knocking shit over. I love it."

Yeah! Rip up those seats and rock around your cellphone till broad daylight!

― Krankenhaus, Monday, 6 September 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago)

it was right around the disintegration of 120 Minutes too. I remember watching that Blink 182 video when they were in the movie theater and being confused. not that i hadn't seen crap on it before, but that was a line in the sand for me.

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago)

Jump around to a song that's probably already being pumped into the mall!

(x-post)

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago)

seriously it's like a riot to "Bennie And The Jets"

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 6 September 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago)

but that would be an awesome video

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 6 September 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah! Rip up those seats and rock around your cellphone till broad daylight!

Y'all gotsta unnastahn trick luh' da keeadz.

― djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago)

I mean I just imagined people smashing windows and bashing heads in in time to the chorus of Benny and The Jets and that would be a rad video.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 6 September 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago)

OK, who's got a camera?

― djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 01:24 (twenty years ago)

i will put my 2 cents behind "You Get What You Give". one of those instant good mood songs.

― bnw (bnw), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:00 (twenty years ago)

I sense that the pro-New Radicals camp will be victorious in this thread.

― supercub, Monday, 6 September 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago)

it was easily the least punk sounding song I'd ever seen on 120 Minutes.

Fuckin' OTM. I remember spitting at the sight of some earnestly spikey-haired dickwad in a Dead Kennedys shirt flouncing about to this song's unapologetically Rundgrenesque twritle tweeness. FUCK YOU, GREGG ALEXANDER!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm amazed he enrages you so.

― djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago)

I sense that the pro-New Radicals camp will be victorious in this thread.

And squelched everywhere else like a dying bug, I fear.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago)

thank heavens.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago)

we'll give you sods this tiny corner, etc

― Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:16 (twenty years ago)

i don't even remember what this song sounds like. how does it go?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:50 (twenty years ago)

It's funny how Rundgrenian is the ultimate insult from Alex in NYC.

― supercub, Monday, 6 September 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm actually more surprised about the GIN BLOSSOMS thread going on. While I do indeed loathe Gregg Alexander, I can see why some folks might like that one single. I don't. I'd rather listen to a warthog give birth, but hey...that's me. The Gin Blossoms, however, are to my mind entirely indefensible and are responsible for the blandest music ever made.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago)

*yawn*

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Alex I met Youth on Friday. I dunno what he was liek because I was wankered.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago)

And thus you didn't lick him.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Yes. Possibly.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago)

This band was pretty awesome. If you go to their website you can download all of their videos in .mpg format.

― B. Leonard Welsh, Monday, 6 September 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

I'm drunk, and the original thread premise holds true.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 22 January 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Did they kick Beck's ass yet? Because I heard he rolls with Jack White now and you've seen what that motherfucker can do.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Saturday, 22 January 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't "You Get What You Give" on a one-hit-wonder compilation the year after it hit?

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

i love you get what you give! ive been working on a cover of this for like 2 years

― chaki in charge (chaki), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

"You Get What You Give" is a great song - I just thought that it had an awfully short shelf life.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

I just thought that it had an awfully short shelf life.

eh?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.1docholiday.com/carmela-punk-look.jpg
hahahaha

― deej, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago)

is that an ilxor?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

Alex in NYC hates it, so obviously "You Get What You Give" is ace. Can we add something to the ILX FAQ to this effect? Maybe with a heading "What is pabulum and can you eat it?"

-- Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, September 5, 2004 6:09 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

You were mistaken.

-- Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, September 5, 2004 6:27 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

Alex I don't think you're eligible for jury duty.

-- Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, September 5, 2004 6:36 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― deej, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

is that an ilxor?

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, September 21, 2007 10:51 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

that was from an early thread i started called 'post what you think other board members look like' and that was who i posted for alex in nyc

― deej, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

Shit still sucks

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

Dom in NYC

― deej, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

Beck Hanson, Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson
You're all fakes
Run to your mansions
Come around
We'll kick your ass in!

how could alex in nyc not like this?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 21 September 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

Because it sucks. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

not a good look

― and what, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

i love the song you get what you give!

― chaki, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

never could figure out why i hated this tune.

― r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

the dude in this band really like fisherman hats.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

Man, I remember that they were from Michigan and that this was HUGE in Michigan.

― I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

The funny thing about that Michelle Branch/Santana collaboration that the guy wrote is that Santana's guitar lick totally sounds like the little re-occuring motif in The Style Council's "My Ever Changing Moods"

― dell, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

Musically I'm a sucker for the Rundgren-ism of "You Get What You Give", but the lyrics kinda bug me, I think.

Was there some Tina Yothers involvement w/the New Radicals, or am I confusing something else?

― dell, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

she wrote all their songs

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

you're thinking of Danielle Brisebois who was the little girl on Archie Bunker's place. she now writes for Kelly Clarkson and stuff.

― chaki, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago)

ah, thanks!

― dell, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

one too many "entertainment this week" shows getting jumbled in my mind

― dell, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

WHO ARE YOU?

― chaki, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

"dell"

― dell, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago)

sweet felching jesus

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

no soul = good taste?

― max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

I love how the video continually leaves Brisebois out of the frame, so you only see brief glimpses of her. It's a wonderful irony, since the keyboard part is what makes the song.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 07:34 (seventeen years ago)

Musically I'm a sucker for the Rundgren-ism of "You Get What You Give", but the lyrics kinda bug me, I think.

Nice job noticing the Rundgren similarity. So obvious now that you mention it.

― Cunga, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 08:41 (seventeen years ago)

i listen to this song when i want to kill myself

― artdamages, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

ok just kidding i dont ever want to kill myself

― artdamages, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

i listen to it as i run around the mall with a funny hat on

― artdamages, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

song still rules

― deej, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

i wish anything else on this album was as good as "you get what you give" or "mother we can't just get enough"

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

new radicals and jamiroquai = edgy music for people who don't like edgy music.

-- doomie x, Saturday, September 4, 2004 10:09 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
i.e. the office party choice! (put in stereophonics, oasis, etc in that catergory)

-- doomie x, Saturday, September 4, 2004 10:10 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
sort of: hey let's listen to the new radicals and go and look at public sculptures!

-- doomie x, Saturday, September 4, 2004 10:12 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― artdamages, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

what do these mean?

― artdamages, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

hey let's listen to the new radicals and go and look at public sculptures!

lmao

― and what, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

haha betweel the spelling of "ppl" and the defense of random 90's alterna-rock I half-expected this thread to be the return of Ethan.

-- Al, Saturday, September 4, 2004 3:21 PM

― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

its funny, but i dont get it

― artdamages, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

maybe you weren't around for those 2 years when every other Ethan post was all "ppl need to stop sleeping on Semi-Charmed Life"

― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

naw i just forgot to xpost - i meant the public statue thing

― artdamages, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

ok I didn't totally get that either, but it was still really funny.

― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

i love this album and find the guys whole story kind of fascinating in a pop tragedy kind of way.

― chaki, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

all i remember about this band is the bald goofball chirping away in the video

― Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

i have this shit on tape

i rock it on the regular in my vehicle

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

deej u got the dreamer's disease

― max, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

they ripped off world party who were a yuppie-flu versin of the beatles...!

i always thought this song was world party. now that i know the truth, i still don't have any opinion of it. it's catchy in a very vague way.

― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

maybe you weren't around for those 2 years when every other Ethan post was all "ppl need to stop sleeping on Semi-Charmed Life"

-- Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

to be fair it is is a djdee post

― and what, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

i like that song they did. hated the hat.

― omar little, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

xp what does that mean

― deej, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

I couldn't even tell if he was cute.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

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