best/worst rock biographies

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Best:
Space is the Place
Uptight
Marianne Faithfull autobiography
A.L. Oldham autobiography
Lexicon Devil
Serge Gainsbourg Fistful OF Gigantes

Worst:
Every Patti Smith biography I have ever read
Bebe Buell's book
Angie Bowie's second book
Get in the Van
Every Elvis bio written by an ex-girlfriend

Lap loth, Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Best:
Rotten - No Blacks, No Irish No Dogs
The Real Frank Zappa Book
Our Band Could Be Your Life

AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Dirt
it's the iliad of rock bios, dude.

sexyDancer, Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Space is the Place is superb, agreed!

djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream last night that I was trying to watch the Sun Ra documentary but it was a shitty VHS dub so I had to keep adjusting the tracking. I was also eating giant cookies with my cousin Michelle while we watched it.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Best:

Marianne Faithfull
The Dirt (Motley)
Tainted Life (Mark Almond)
Rotten
that Albert Goldman one on John Lennon (but factually suspect)
Highway to Hell (Clinton Walker's bio of Bon Scott)


Worst:
Robbie Williams
Lemmy's one (such a shame, was looking forward to it)

Why do we never get any bios of techno artists? I'd love to read Derrick May's bio. Maybe it's too soon.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Anyone read Shakey, the Neil Young book? I always see it in the store and want to know if it's worth it.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I didn't think the Lemmy one was so bad.

I quite liked "Bad Seed," about Nick Cave (obv.). There's an XTC one that's alright.

Not sure it counts, but I still find "The Dark Stuff" by Nick Kent pretty amusing.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago)

OH, and "No Mercy" (re: the Stranglers) is fucking ace. As is the recent Siouxsie one.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Hellfire (Jerry Lee Lewis by Nick Tosches) is great, but is written (and reads) like a novel.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Julian Cope OWNS this, by the way.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 September 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Really the Blues by Mezz Mezzrow is a great book that everyone should read. (Non-Rock, but the Sun Ra book was broached right off the top).

Beneath the Underdog is awesome, too, but music is barely mentioned.

the Bill Harkleroad bk about the Magic Band is really bitter.

my fave Beatles book is the one by JL's buddy Pete Shotton, In My Life.

somebody break down what the good Rolling Sones books are?

& does anyone remember The Harmony Illustrated Encyclopedia of Rock? good times.

autovac (autovac), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Shakey is a MUST-READ for any Neil fan. It gets a bit weird in the 90s (the biographer becomes a character) but it's exactly the book that Neil deserves. Check it out.

David Lee Roth's Crazy From The Heat is my fave rock autobio by far. Hysterical. You'll gain a new respect for the guy.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago)

BEST: Dream Brothers about Jeff & Tim Buckley is excellent, thorough and very perceptive about the father/son dynamic w/o stooping to armchair analysis or sensational psychology. And I'm only a casual fan of both, though the book sent me back to the albums.
Not rock and roll, but Dino (Dean Martin) is Tosches' best IMO.
WORST: anything on the Grateful Dead. I'm actually a recent convert to their music, but the hero worship they inspire is pitiful.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago)

"David Lee Roth's Crazy From The Heat is my fave rock autobio by far. Hysterical. You'll gain a new respect for the guy."
Whoa! I had to review this back in 97 and I actually LOST what little respect I had for the guy. He just seemed bitter, totally obsessed w/Van Halen, and well, deluded about his celebrity status. Best (unintentionally hilarious) line: "Jimi Hendrix is a genius -- in a sense." What a dick! But hey, I've never made it w/ two chicks at once (every guy's fantasy) so maybe I'm just jealous.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Tainted Life (Mark Almond)

You stole my answer! (It is superb.)

Neal Karlen's book on Babes in Toyland is a surprisingly wonderful slice-of-life story that captures a time and place without reaching for it. And Lori Barbero is now an eternal heroine.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago)

OK I just put the Space is the Place book (and the DVD movie) in my Amazon cart, plus the Joyful Noise DVD doc and a couple of Sun Ra CDs. Along with the Berlioz I'm buying, this ushers in a new phase of me letting my weird dreams dictate music related purchases.

Oh and thanks Anthony, I'll pick up Shakey next time I'm in that store.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago)

The book is great - check out the interview w/ Ra in the Wire.

djdee2005, Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:35 (twenty years ago)

I felt exactly the same way about Neal Karlen's book. After reading it, however, I heard from several sources that heroin (w/o the e) played a crucial role in the band's trajectory but any explicit mention of it was excised from the book. Don't know if this makes a difference or not, I suppose Karlen hinted at it by acknowledging people around the band doing dope.
I guess my point is the politics of journalistic access are intrusive, even w/ underground rock bands.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I was about to say, I thought the drug allegations were clear enough even without specifics.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Why else would Kat have paired off w/ that Lubricated Goat lunkhead?
And yeah, Lori came off as a eminently sane and decent person. I was sorta suprised at the Lee Ranaldo portrait, though.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago)

What did it say about Ranaldo?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago)

What was surprising about the Lee Ranaldo portrait? I haven't read the book.

grease, Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago)

claims he's a control freak, if I remember correctly

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:14 (twenty years ago)

Can't believe I forgot Jules Cope and David Lee Roth, Alex and Micco, good calls.

Looking forward to Rob Halford's, still being written.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago)

I've just started reading "Shakey", the Neil Young biography and it's very good so far. I also second "Bad Seed" as being a good read with plenty of interesting Birthday Party stories. "Dream Brother" was good holiday reading too.

Other than that, I've recently enjoyed "Crazy Diamond - Syd Barrett & The Dawn Of Pink Floyd" by Mike Watkinson and Pete Anderson and also "Down The Highway The Life Of Bob Dylan" by Howard Sounes.

Right now, I'm sitting on "Miles Davis" by Ian Carr. I'm sure it'll be good but I know I'll have to buy another 10 albums as a result!

piers (piers), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Karlen cast Lee R as a cartoon-character pretentious NY'er and implied he didn't know wtf he was doing in a recording studio. I think he must've pissed off the author w/ some parochial comments about Minneapolis or something. a jarring note in an otherwise balanced book. maybe karlen felt like he needed a bad guy.
sounded to me like BinT needed a control-freak producer!

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't read many rock biographies, but the best I've read is Mick Farren's Give The Anarchist A Cigarette and the worst (well, worst-written anyway) is Johnny Rogan's Morrissey & Marr : A Severed Alliance.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago)

is there any good Bio on David Bowie?

mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:23 (twenty years ago)

'Strange Fascination' was pretty good.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago)

Tony Sanchez's "Up and Down with the Rolling Stones" is both highly amusing and tragic. The book offers zero insight into the music or creative process, but instead you get endless insider tales of debauchery and downfall, focusing mainly on Brian Jones, Keith Richard, Anita Pallenberg, and Marianne Faithfull. I think Keith once called it a "fiction" (and said he laughed his ass off reading it), but Sanchez was there for all of this, and what he has to say rings true. I picked it up for $2 used, and it's well worth seeking out.

James Young's Nico book -- how many different titles has this book been published under? -- variously known as "The End" and "The Last of the Bohemians" -- is yet another tragically hysterical firsthand account.

Ingeborg Schober's Amon Düül II bio, "Tanz der Lemminge" is really underrated. Nice interviews, some incredible anecdotes, and she wonderfully evokes all the socio-political goings-on of late 60s/early 70s West Germany. You'll have to know German in order to read this one, as it's never been translated into English, as far as I know. (I could be wrong.)

Worst bio? The Jim DeRogatis Lester Bangs book is fucking terrible. (Like anything else you'd expect from the pen of Jim DeRo.) Richard Meltzer's chapter on Bangs in "A Whore Just Like the Rest" is far more insightful, more cutting, more affectionate even.

I find the John Szwed Sun Ra bio to be tedious and boringly pedantic. Of course this is what you expect from an uptight academic. There's no humour in the writing whatsoever. Sure, there is a lot of useful info and all that, but Szwed embarrasses himself badly when he reveals himself to know fuck all about rock music. (He calls Can a "space rock" band inspired by the Arkestra. Huh?! Amon Düül II, whom he also laughingly calls "space rock", well, Szwed spells it Amon Dul, etc., etc.)

Just about everything by Diedrich Diedrichson (has any of his writing ever been translated into English?) is always good for something. Sometimes unintentionally funny, though.

Maybe this next one is both the best and the worst. A few years ago I picked up this amazing artifact for nothing at a flea market. It's a thick American magazine titled "John Lennon: 1940-1980", one of the many (certainly) quickie-cash-in "tributes" which immediately followed in the wake of Lennon's death. (This one is dated December 1980; these ghouls wasted NO time getting this piece of crap out on the shelves.) It has the absolute WORST writing I've ever read in my life. I keep it for this reason alone. It's full of mawkish, badly written smug remembrances by aging ex-hippies on the brink of yuppiedom, writing things like "I didn't listen to my beloved Beatles for a six-month period after Lennon said he was more popular than Jesus", and "'Strawberry Fields' sounded too weird to me at first. The Beatles had outdistanced us, thanks to a certain sweet smelling herb, but we caught up." Add badly reproduced color photos, more typos than you can shake a stick at, and we're talking CLASSIC.

kjoerup, Monday, 6 September 2004 03:17 (twenty years ago)

The Jam: Our Story (Foxton/Buckler/Ogg) was just awful.

the todster (the todster), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago)

Not sure it counts, but I still find "The Dark Stuff" by Nick Kent pretty amusing.

Hell yes.

On the unintentional comedy scale, Angie Bowie's first(?) book is right up there.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago)

Best - Mark manning's account of Zodiac Mindwarp. "Fucked By Rock."

maria b (maria b), Monday, 6 September 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago)

I find the John Szwed Sun Ra bio to be tedious and boringly pedantic.

Shakey knowledge of krautrock aside, I really dug the biography - I didn't find it too tedious, and it was certainly packed with information.

djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago)

As I said, the Szwed book is a thorough account with a ton of info - very useful and intersting to learn these things. I appreciate that. Szwed's style is very dry, though. That's just my own tastes speaking. I prefer to see some fire, some personality interjected into the writing. (THAT is what makes Tosches' Jerry Lee Lewis and Dean Martin bios so great, I think.)

But it's not just krautrock -- Szwed falters horribly whenever he attempts to say anything about Ra's influence on rock. John Szwed obviously knows nothing about the subject. I wouldn't attempt to write anything about, say, jazz from 1920-1950 or C&W from any era, because I am confident that I really wouldn't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

kjoerup, Monday, 6 September 2004 06:16 (twenty years ago)

Another vote for Lexicon Devil, with special mention to the dubious and eye-watering nude picture of some terrifyingly well hung 14-year-old LA scene kid/rent boy that turns up halfway through

DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 6 September 2004 08:22 (twenty years ago)

Not sure if it counts but Danny Sugarman's Wonderland Avenue is brilliant, and made me realise two things: Jim Morrison wasn't a total knob and Iggy Pop is pretty much as fucked up as I'd always guessed he was.

oats (oats), Monday, 6 September 2004 08:44 (twenty years ago)

'The Wreckers Of Civilisation' and 'England's Hidden Reverse' have both had threads of their own, I think, but are great.

I'd actually give a decent shout to the Billy Bragg one, 'Still Suitable For Miners'. It's a bit too "he's a good bloke", but readable with it.

I think the Tony Bennett one that was bought for me several years is one of the worst I've read, although I've got a Bauhaus one (Dark Entries?) which is so fawning it's incredible.

Is there a decent Scott Walker one? I've only got 'A Deep Shade Of Blue', and feel there must be a better book about Scott out there.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 6 September 2004 08:50 (twenty years ago)

'But it's not just krautrock -- Szwed falters horribly whenever he attempts to say anything about Ra's influence on rock. John Szwed obviously knows nothing about the subject. I wouldn't attempt to write anything about, say, jazz from 1920-1950 or C&W from any era, because I am confident that I really wouldn't know what the fuck I'm talking about.'

I can't recall him saying that much about rock music when I read it but he's really gd on jazz and relating it to developments in classical avant-garde.

I can see what you mean in respect to the dryness of the writing but the whole thing is so well researched -- he interviews as many associates/musicians as he can, and the story is so damn great and the guy is so fascinating that I found it a real quick and enjoyable read.

But anyway: what was ra's 'influence' on rock? I mean, maybe leading by an example -- as in setting up this commune of ppl to work together on improvisations and group sound; which, as far as i can tell, wz only adopted by some ppl in krautrock and maybe beefheart (but that could also be relaetd to a 60s countercultural mindset). Even his work as a whole is odd in relation to jazz too, i find.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Maybe going into it with lowered expectations helped, but I was surprised how much I enjoyed "I'm With the Band" by Pamela des Barres.

Also, Miles Davis' autobiography is an entertaining and enlightening read. To give a little of the flavor of the book, I always think of a photo caption that read (quoting from memory) "This was our line-up at Birdland in 1949. Standing at left is Symphony Sid, another motherfucker I never could stand."

How's "Hip Priest", by the way?

sorry xpost, back to sun ra's influence on rock

Dr Benway (dr benway), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago)

(uh, before I cite "Space Is The Place" like everyone else, Id just like to point out that the thread asked for ROCK bios. So there.)

Best (individual) - Chuck Berry: The Autobiography
Best (group) - Hammer Of The Gods: The Led Zeppelin Story (Steven Davis)

Worst - No One Here Gets Out Alive (Jerry Hopkins)

Hopkins' David Bowie & Jimi Hendrix biographies were just as poorly written as his Jim Morrison bio was, but at least those two were fairly compelling subjects, so the books retained some inherent interest. Never read his Elvis bio, and certainly don't intend to.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:13 (twenty years ago)

it should be noted that danny "most embarrassing ex-groupie on earth" sugerman also had a hand in "no one here gets out alive."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Someone asked about Rolling Stones books...the best one I think is STP (Stones Touring Party) by Robert Greenfield, an account of their 1972 tour. Fantastic book.

I liked Shakey for the original interviews with Neil Young, but had a major problem with the author inserting himself into the narrative. It seemed to me that he wanted to sniff Neil Young's armpits and then tell him why they stank.

I call it biographer's disease (it has some resemblance to executor's disease, but that's another thread): thinking you're a genius because you're writing a book about one.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Best = The 2 Julian Cope ones, the Banshees one. The cope ones are fantastically entertaining, the banshees one (mark paytress IIRC?) is really nicely written, and is enthusiastic w/o being fannish.

Worst = the lemmy one. A terrible dissapointment. Just crass and stupid and boring.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Not a "rock bio," but I'll always cite PLEASE KILL ME by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain was being wildly entertaining.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:10 (twenty years ago)

has anyone read the everett true book on the white stripes?

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago)

1) There's an Everett True book on the White Stripes?
2) Why am I not surprised?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it was reviewed in this month's mojo. got a very good review, actually. the reviewer seemed to love anything true has ever typed.

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Incidentally, Miles Davis' co-author Quincy Trouple plagarized significant portions of the autobiography from a biography called Milestones, and the book was more or less assembled by a team of editorial assistants at the publishers office. Davis' involvement with the 'writing' of it was minimal, as is often the case with co-authored books by celebrities...but it's still a great read, I agree.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 6 September 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Ribowsky's Spector bio is good, I think. Tosches on JL Lewis, ditto. Timothy White's Beach Boys book is very well done.

Fong-Torres on Gram Parsons is pretty awful. Bobbie Ann Mason on Elvis isn't too good, and Guralnick on Elvis just makes the whole thing boring.

I still like David Henderson's old Hendrix bio, too.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Hip Priest is OK but understandably thin on anything but quotes from music magazines and disgruntled ex-Fall types. Ends up being a bit dry and historical. Reading the Mick Middles/MES one which is better and has some good Smith passages, and an entertaining bit interviewing his mom.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago)

It must be said that The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell is funny as a motherfucker.
I don't even listen to Marilyn Manson but I've read that book twice.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 6 September 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago)

yeah that manson autobiography was way more entertaining than it had any right to be.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:13 (twenty years ago)

The Creation Records Story - My Magpie Eyes are Hungry for the Prize David kavanagh is the best music biog if it counts as a biog (although Englands Dreaming is pretty good in the same subgenre of pop history)

Revolution in the Head (Ian macdonald) awesome for the song detail if you are a beatles nut.

and for fun Fargo Rock city (biog of a mid west usa teenage metal freak and perfect summation of the hair metal years)

dunc, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Worst rock biography, but possibly most entertaining read: Three Dog Nightmare by Chuck Negron.

mike a, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Ray Charles' autobiography "Brother Ray" is a freakin' hoot. Lots about pussy, orgies, drugs. It's surprisingly vulgar!

shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago)

"Comrade Rockstar" which I found in a charity shop today, looks interesting. It's about a 60's American Singer called Dean Reed who ended up becoming a huge star in the Eastern Bloc before drowning in an East Berlin Lake in 1986 in dubious circumstances.

Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago)

the Manson book is good (well I think it's only "okay" but) because it's written by Neil Strauss, just warming up to write The Dirt

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:13 (twenty years ago)

Michael Lydon's book on Ray is also a great read. For Stones books, I dig Greenfield and adore Stanley Booth's 'True Adventures.'

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago)

S. Booth's True Adventures is far and away the best Stones book; nothing else comes close.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

Is there a newer thread I'm missing? I read these three while on vacation and recommend them all:

Patti Smith - Just Kids (2010)
Nick Kent - Apathy For The Devil: A Seventies Memoir (2010)
Andrew Earles - Husker Du: The Story of the Noise-Pop Pioneers Who Launched Modern Rock (2010)

Just finished slogging through Peter Doggett's There's A Riot Going On: Revolutionaries, Rock Stars, and the Rise and Fall of the '60s (2009), which was pretty much a depressing chore. My wife wants me to read the Tina Fey book. In the meantime, what's good from this list? Apparently the Ambrose book on Iggy is crap, but the Trynka book isn't available on Kindle. Hrm.

Jah Wobble - Memoirs Of A Geezer (2009)
Zoe Street Howe - Typical Girls? The Story Of The Slits (2009)
Tony Visconti - The Autobiography: Bowie, Bolan and the Brooklyn Boy (2007)
Paul Trynka - Iggy Pop: Open Up And Bleed (2007)
Joe Ambrose - Gimme Danger: The Story Of Iggy Pop (2009)
Keith Richards/James Fox - Life (2010)
Andrew Loog Oldham - Stoned (2000)
Cherry Vanilla - Lick Me: How I Became Cherry Vanilla (2010)
Legs McNeil - Cheetah Chrome: A Dead Boy's Tale (2010)
Rick Wakeman - Grumpy Old Star (2009)
Rick Wakeman - Further Adventures Of A Grumpy Old Star (2010)
George Berger - The Story Of Crass (2009)

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 04:59 (fourteen years ago)

I guess no response cuz I didn't list these?

Sammy Hagar - Red: My Uncensored Life in Rock (2011)
Steven Tyler - Does the Noise in My Head Bother You?: A Rock 'n' Roll Memoir (2011)
Nikki Sixx - This Is Gonna Hurt: Music, Photography and Life Through the Distorted Lens of Nikki Sixx (2011)
Vince Neil & Mike Sager - Tattoos & Tequila: To Hell and Back with One of Rock's Most Notorious Frontmen (2010)

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

Dean Wareham's memoir is pretty good.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

WORST: anything on the Grateful Dead. I'm actually a recent convert to their music, but the hero worship they inspire is pitiful.

As a recent convert myself, while I assume nothing objective has been published about them, is there anything at least not-cringeworthy?

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

The Keith Richards one starts out interesting, but quickly degenerates into, "and then I passed out here, and then I passed out here, etc." I read it back to back with an Iggy bio (not sure it's the one listed above) and it was kind of weird to see two people basically writing the same book except that one is passing out on a yaht in the Mediterranean and one is passing out in someone's living room.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

the last third of Life is pretty bad -- a lot of "i own property in connecticut, i hate mick jagger, i'm an old rich guy" kind of stuff. but there's enough in the 60s-70s to make it worthwhile.

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, and The Fallen about all the ex-members of The Fall is pretty good in a few places, but really should have been a blog as there's not enough meat to make a full book...

dlp9001, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Dylan's Chronicles

Brad C., Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

Ribowsky's Spector bio is good, I think.

i read this years ago -- really excellent. there's a newer bio of spector that i think got good reviews, too.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

I have the Ribowsky bio, it's great

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

Just finished the latest Led Zep bio--it's excellent, especially if all you knew before was Hammer of the Gods

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

The Richards one hits his nadir when he goes off on the guy who stole his shepard's pie ingredients late in the book. I can't imagine why you would want the world knowing you are that much of a fool.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

hits "its" nadir

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:43 (fourteen years ago)

David Keenan's England's Hidden Reverse is wonderful, as is Simon Ford's Wreckers of Civilization. Not sure if those count as biographies exactly though.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

I read Hagar's book. I thought it was really entertaining. Don't expect Shakespeare.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)

The Warren Zevon biography is remarkable for how unflattering it is. He comes off as an absolute monster.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, that's a good one too.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:53 (fourteen years ago)

Feels like I've read dozens of bios of the classic rock/pop types (Stones/Kinks/Who/Beatles/Pink Floyd etc) and yet I can't think of a single one that sticks in my memory. Even the good ones tend to follow the same general model where the savage young upstart early years/first flush of fame part of the story is interesting but the second half is a relatively dull or sometimes depressing catalogue of album releases, collaborations, lawsuits and relationship problems.

The only ones I can think of where I have read them more than once or regularly flick through them:

Julian Cope - Head On (Repossessed suffers from the above issues)
Bill Drummond - 45
Malcolm McLaren - The Wicked Ways of Malcolm McLaren
Ian MacDonald - Revolution in the Head

I'm aware of the issue with the last one but it's a great resource for recording details and so on and reading it is kinda like arguing with a fellow Beatle freak about why they are brilliant.

everything, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

Best: Levon Helm, This Wheel's on Fire (whenever I think of Robbie Robertson, I always think of Ronnie Hawkins and Levon making fun of his red scarf in Last Waltz)

Worst: either Albert Goldman's Elvis or A Drink with Shane MacGowan

Punned Sheerest, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

Fuck. Goldman's book is the worst book/thing ever.

everything, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

I've had a hold on Greil Marcus's Dead Elvis at the library for a while now, which is in part a rebuttal to that piece of shit. Opinions anyone?

everything, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

Bowie In Berlin, a really sweet string of moments that begins with Bowie freaking out on Cameron Crowe in L.A. while eating peppers, milk and cocaine (literally checking the closed blinds for any signs of Jimmy Page, who Bowie thought had cursed him) to a more assured Bowie years later, wrapping up Lodger and moving with "Ashes to Ashes".

In between, Iggy Pop serves as a wingman, Bowie rides around in a hovercraft, Marc Bolan and Bing Crosby are both struck dead mere weeks after performing with Bowie and Bowie sees two familiar figures out kissing by the Berlin Wall.

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отдых в Крыму! (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

Best: Levon Helm, This Wheel's on Fire (whenever I think of Robbie Robertson, I always think of Ronnie Hawkins and Levon making fun of his red scarf in Last Waltz)

And the fact that the mic he sang into was off.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

the goldman elvis book is 'bad' definitely but also kind of hysterically entertaining as long as you don't expect it to be an actual biography, but rather 600 pages of unintentional self-expose on goldman's part. there's an entire page in marcus's book where he just lists as many odious goldmanisms as he can find in the book, viz a viz: "the presleys were not normal people, they were hillbillies..."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

Andrew Oldham's book is really good. Oral history that allows others to undercut Oldham's own claims. He comes off like such a charismatic asshole. It's supposed to be the first of a series (it ends w/Marianne Faithfull having a hit w/"As Tears Go By"). 2Stoned came out a while back, but not in the US. I think it covers the rest of the 60s. I'm wondering if the rest will ever come out.

I think the biggest revealation I got out of Keef's book (other than Mick's "tiny todger")--and reall is just something I never really thought about--is he never really used effects pedals. The only reason he used a fuzzbox on "Satisfaction" was it was made available to him, and he thought his track would be replaced w/horns. Later, he cites a delay pedal during the Some Girls/Emotional Rescue era.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho! (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

Actually now that I think of it, Kieth also claims through the magic of overdubs & tape editing he played all the guitars on The Stones 66-67 recordings because Brian Jones couldn't play well any more. Reeks of bullshit to me.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho! (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)

stanley booth's 'true adventures' is definitely the best stones book, but i read any of them i could get my hands on when i was 19. bill wyman's book is dry as dust; he even manages to make banging groupies sound boring. tony sanchez's book is trashy fun. a. e. hotchner's oral history 'blown away' is a pretty half-assed book but it does have some great interviews with ian stewart and marianne faithfull -- worth skipping around in, at least.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

Jah Wobble - Memoirs Of A Geezer (2009)

Have tried to start this twice and run aground both times. Needs more of a ghost-writer, maybe, but I'm hoping it'll pick up once he joins some bands.

Andrew Loog Oldham - Stoned (2000)

This is a delight, he has such fun writing in a snotty up-himself persona ahead of accuracy or objectivity, and all for the better. As noted upthread, they allow enough dissenting views from contemporaries to allay the qualms of fact-sticklers and to add to the amusement by undercutting Oldham's grandiosity.

2Stoned feels very different, as he relates a decade or so of trying to let that persona carry him in the real world when he doesn't actually have anything going on to justify it. Still a good read, but there's almost certainly not enough activity in the rest of his life to warrant a third book.

Oh, and The Fallen about all the ex-members of The Fall is pretty good in a few places, but really should have been a blog as there's not enough meat to make a full book...

It was expanded from a weekend newspaper article.

all cats are gay (sic), Thursday, 2 June 2011 01:59 (fourteen years ago)

xpost It's a tough call with Keith. On one hand I believe him when he says he uses no effects, etc. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if he was so far past the point of pawning that stuff off to underlings that he really believes he uses no effects. Like Neil Young and "Old Black," which has been repaired or replaces several times, as best as his tech can manage.

Anyone read Bob Mould's book? Is it out yet?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 June 2011 02:18 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Steven Tyler's new autobiography sounds kinda lol/kinda amazing:

So it’s oddly touching that despite every­thing, through all the chaos, Tyler’s ego remains unkillable. “I wanted dreamy nubile girls to listen to my voice and cry,” he muses. “A thousand years after my death I fantasized that there’d be people in the outer galaxies listening to ‘Dream On’ and saying in hushed tones, ‘It’s him, the strange Immortal One!’ ” If the love of his life is his own voice, nobody can say the man hasn’t been faithful.

rob, Monday, 27 June 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

just flipping through it at the boookstore, i could see that steven likes USING CAPS FOR EMPHASIS! which is always a good thing.

tylerw, Monday, 27 June 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1282642876l/592741.jpg

henry s, Monday, 27 June 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

that is a great book! what happened to bob greene? did he get horrible?

anyone read the new neil strauss collection of interviews? I need a good long airplane book next week

brio, Monday, 27 June 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

I need that alice cooper book.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

In the interviews in the Bob Greene book, Alice clearly has his sights set well beyond the band, forseeing a future in acting, producing musicals, etc. He, of course, did go Hollywood, but it's odd to think that he's done everything in Tinseltown (hung out with Groucho & Helen Hayes, raised funds for the Hollywood sign, Tonight show/Hollywood Squares appearances, etc.) except appear in films (cameos in Sgt. Pepper and Roadie aside). I always thought he would have been a great Harry Dean Stanton-esque character actor, if nothing else.

henry s, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 01:35 (thirteen years ago)

that is a great book! what happened to bob greene? did he get horrible?

One of the most famous journalists in the country who turned into a scumbag and was brought down a few years by scandal growing out of his seducing and screwing an underage girl. When it broke, the woman was much older. She had written about the affair to Greene's newspaper because she had contacted him and he had, in return, sicced the FBI on her on unfounded blackmail charges. He resigned from the Chicago Tribune and since then his career has been over.

There's a long story in Chicago Mag here with all the details:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/March-2003/The-Sad-Saga-of-Bob-Greene/index.php?cparticle=8&siarticle=7#artanc

He made a small fortune in journalism.

Gorge, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

Been reading the Barry Miles McCartney interview/autobio "Many Years From Now". Once Macca gets into talking about the Swinging part of the Sixties it turns fun.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

Of course, there's the annoying " That (Famous Beatles Song) was John's song. He did it all. I mean, I might've done something on the bridge or verses..." on just about EVERY song whose sole author he didn't claim to be.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Just finished the latest Led Zep bio--it's excellent, especially if all you knew before was Hammer of the Gods

― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:22 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There are so many Zeppelin bios. Which one was this? Wh

fruitsbs (beachville), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

Almost certainly When Giants Walked The Earth by Mick Wall.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

David Buckley's Strange Fascination, boasting thorough interviews with Nile Rodgers, Carlos Alomar, Visconti, and every Bowie principal, trumps any published subsequently.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

I've only read one Pink Floyd bio, Pigs Might Fly by Mark Blake, which is great – feels like the definitive history of the band.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Which notable bands/artists have not had their biography written? I've always had the feeling that publishers might be willing to take a punt on rock bios, they seem like relatively easy sells to me. Of course writing them would be much harder.

For example, there should really be a Swans book.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

Get in the Van

― Lap loth, Sunday, September 5, 2004 2:44 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

NO WAY get in the van rules!!!! #theshed

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

I found Keith Richards' book fairly disappointing, much to my surprise.

Just read Stevie Chick's book on Black Flag, and loved it. Great job, Stevie!

Bob Mould's autobiography was really gross and self-serving. Would not recommend.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

I read a new book on Paul Simon, and it was really fucking bad. Can't remember the author right now.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

some pretty lousy Kurt Cobain ones out there iirc

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

A ton of them came out in 1994 to capitalize on his death. Those definitely sucked shit.

By the way, if anyone's curious how gross Bob Mould's autobiography is, there's a few pages devoted to the very specific finances of his production royalties on Husker Du's two Warner Brothers records, and how due to a legal settlement, Greg Norton received a portion of that money, when IT WAS BOB MOULD WHO TRULY DESERVED THAT $11,551

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

eesh, sounds reallllly entertaining.
get in the van is great, for real. still need to read that black flag bio stevie wrote. i've been re-reading a bunch of joe carducci stuff lately, so i'm in the mood. also want to read kristin hersh's recent bio. sort of thought it would show up at my local library, but i guess i'll have to buy it.
mentioned on a james brown thread but the new bio, the one, is really good so far.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

It's not a bio but I'm halfway through Making Rumours, Ken Caillat's new memoir of the making of Rumours. It will be way too light on the dirt for most readers, I think (though there is dirt). But he is very thorough about describing just about everything they did in the studio to make the record.

til the sound of my voice will haint u (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

that sounds pretty dope actually. lots of rock bios are light on production, unless it involves snorting coke off a mixing board.

fruitsbs (beachville), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't seen any mention of John Einarson who's done some pretty great ones notably the Arthur Lee Forever Changes co-write of his posthumous.ly released memoirs. Also the Mr Tambourine Man Gene Clark one I'm currently reading. I read his Buffalo Springfield one a couple of years back and enjoyed that too.

Jefrey Lee pierce's Go Tell the Mountain is entertaining but not necessarily reliable.

enjoyed Long Strange Trip and Searching For the Sound on the Grateful Dead too.

Rick Brown & Mike Stax's Like, Misunderstood was an interesting read though it spends much more time on his life in India post draft-dodging than on the band. the 3 part history of the band in the Ugly Things mag is very good too.

think I'll think of others later

Stevolende, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

oh cool, that arthur lee thing is good? will have to seek it out.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Think it was one of the better books I've read. Really fills in a lot of details. Einarson's expansion helps matters greatly.

They were a band with a lot of rumours circulating and not much published on. So reading this was marvellous.

Wish I'd picked up the Castle compilation I saw in I think Dublin Tower years ago though it could have been London somewhere. & I think it was a compilation not just an issue. Seemed large booksize.

Stevolende, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

Almost certainly When Giants Walked The Earth by Mick Wall.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Yup...that's the one.

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone read the Mick Fleetwood autobio? It's OOP.

Johnny Hotcox, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

i read a good chunk of it over the course of an hour or two in a library once. It's good light reading. some cool stories. not too in-depth, if i recall correctly.

frogsclovetofu (beachville), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

What abt the tell-all by ex-gf of Lindsey?

bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 April 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Whats the best Kinks Bio?

Hinklepicker, Friday, 27 April 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

Dave Davies' one is not too bad. At one point he talks about how he was having sex and he damaged his penis.

Poliopolice, Friday, 27 April 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

Remembered Colin Harper's Dazzling Stranger which is mainly the Bert Jansch bio but also covers the Edinburgh & London folk scenes.

Also really enjoyed Rob Young's Electric Eden which has a lot of great stuff on the 60s Britfolk stuff as well as the earlier folk revival.

Grit, Noise and Revolution by David A. Carson was pretty great on various Detroit acts. Does give several bios of people while covering the area's scene from the mid 50s to mid 70s.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 April 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

jon savage's OOP authorized kinks bio is really good.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 27 April 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

Jon Savage did a great Kinks book in the mid 80s think its called The Official biography. not sure if it's still remotely available.

Reminds me I really enjoyed Paolo Hewitt's the Young Mod's Forgotten Story on The Small Faces. Took me about 10 years to manage to get hold of it.

Thinking of books that took me forever to get the Einsturzende Neubauten history Hor Mit Schmorzen was greta, MAy also be long gone & I think there's been a new official one since.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 April 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

Just finished The Fallen and yes, it does feel like a blog-to-book conversion but it's a damn good book on The Fall.

Anyone else read Kristin Hersh's Rat Girl? Really liking it so far.

Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

xp The Jon Savage Kinks bio is really well done, but maybe could use a little distance, being officially authorized and all. On the other end of the spectrum, however, is John Mendelsohn's embarrassing The Kinks Kronikles which features transcriptions of heated phone conversations between John and a former Kinks manager on the subject of whether the latter would like to be interviewed for the book.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

Reading Ray and Dave Davies' autobios back-to-back is amusing for the ways in which they're very differently nutty.

Have had Hersh's under the Parodoxical Undressing title for a year or so but not gotten to it.

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

So it doesn't really seem like their is a definitive Kinks bio currently in print. A bit odd.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 28 April 2012 07:42 (thirteen years ago)

There's a day by day Kinks chronology thing, if that's any use. I picked mine up very cheaply which might mean it was going out of print though.

Stevolende, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

I did find one released last year by Nick Hasted called You Really Got Me but still for such a major band there is a bit of a dearth. I wonder if thats cos the Davies bros are difficult - no one seems to have much good to say about Ray. Maybe I'll have to read his and Daves books.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 28 April 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

Was thinking there was one just released, thought I saw reviews of one in the UK monthlies recently. must be that Hasted one then?

Stevolende, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

What abt the tell-all by ex-gf of Lindsey?

A few lovely anecdotes about drinking champagne during the Tusk sessions and doing coke with Stevie in the car.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

I started reading the Zeppelin one today. Every time I come across the name "Mickie Most" I want to throw that shit out the window.

how's life, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Just finished one that's so boring (reviewed under embargo so can't name it) that it makes me wonder if I ever want to read a single-artist bio, as opposed to a memoir, again.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Smoothed: The Epic of Rob Thomas

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Puttin' On Duritz: The Counting Crows Story

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

Okay I can't top that.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Just recently read Buddy Guy's forthcoming When I Left Home which contains a lot of interesting stories - unfortunately, it's written in Negro dialect. I'm not joking. Half the time it reads like a transcript of an old Amos 'n' Andy routine.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

kudos tyler. That's killer.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

haha, i feel like i stole it from someone, so kudos to that person I've forgotten.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

Duff McKagan's memoir on G'N'R is pretty great!

Poliopolice, Monday, 4 June 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

eight years pass...

RIP Johnny Rogan

I've never read any of his books, but he's contributed quite a bit to a lot of reissues I still own. Given the nature of those contributions, I get the impression he's one of the best researchers in rock history, performing the grueling, unsung work of compiling complete and accurate sessionographies and discographies while detailing every bit of minutiae that separates one mix or take from another as well as finding out why said recording was left in the vault.

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:49 (four years ago)

Obituary, the Smiths anecdote is a bit surreal - I guess court proceedings for Joyce's lawsuit was open to the public.

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:58 (four years ago)

I finished the first volume of the Byrds one a year or two ago. It’s a great work for reference for the reasons you give—it even covers bootlegs—but it was so exhausting in its detail that I won’t ever read it again; I’ll just dip into it when I need to check something or want to read about the period whatever LP I’m spinning came out in. Hard to believe he wrote another huge book on the solo members! I admire it a hell of a lot even if I have little desire to read pages and pages about Firefall or what various members did in the 1980s.

blatherskite, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:01 (four years ago)

His Ray Davies biography from a few years ago is good, but he gets hung up on certain things - he keeps mentioning (in a smarmy way) how miserly Ray is, because he doesn't buy rounds at the pub or something.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:12 (four years ago)

Oh, and the opening post in this thread is correct - Bebe Buell's book is the worst I've ever made myself finish. It was, however, useful as a compendium of the insulting names that Elvis Costello had for Prince.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:13 (four years ago)

!

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:15 (four years ago)

His Ray Davies biography from a few years ago is good, but he gets hung up on certain things - he keeps mentioning (in a smarmy way) how miserly Ray is, because he doesn't buy rounds at the pub or something.

I once worked with a guy who was in a band with one of Ray Davies' daughters and I know for a fact that that is true!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:17 (four years ago)

I'm sure it's true, is it worth mentioning over and over in a biography? (I don't go to pubs.)

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:18 (four years ago)

Not specifically the buying rounds in pubs bit but just him generally being a comically tight-fisted millionaire.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:25 (four years ago)

Hard to believe he wrote another huge book on the solo members!

it's only on the members who've died!

visiting, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:31 (four years ago)

Now that he's dead, Rogan will write biographies of the living members of the Byrds.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:33 (four years ago)

Not specifically the buying rounds in pubs bit but just him generally being a comically tight-fisted millionaire.

That's more funny when I think about the time he ran after that mugger who robbed his girlfriend - it always struck me as an impressively chivalrous act, but one can joke that he was after a tenner she owed him.

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 22:26 (four years ago)

Good dot-connecting!

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:38 (four years ago)

I'm pretty sure Rogan underlines that connection in his book!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 22:45 (four years ago)

Ha, yes, just found that section.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:55 (four years ago)


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