1990s POLL - TRACKS and ALBUMS (revised) Voting Deadline, October 1st

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Just added a couple of albums that were on the tracks list accidentally and deleted one YLT song, sadly. again, ilx1990s@yahoo.com, voting ends Oct 1 at midnight!


ALBUMS

Ace of Base - The Sign
Add N To (X) - Avant Hard
Afghan Whigs - Black Love
Afghan Whigs – Gentlemen
Afghan Whigs – 1965
African Head Charge – Songs of Praise
Air - Moon Safari
Alice in Chains - Dirt
All Saints - All Saints
American Music Club – Mercury
Tori Amos – Songs From the Choirgirl Hotel
Aphex Twin – Selected Ambient Works Vol II
Aphex Twin - SAW 85-92
Fiona Apple - When The Pawn…
Aqua – Aquarium
A*Teens - The Abba Generation
Autechre - Amber
Autechre - LP5
Autechre - Tri Repetae
The Auteurs - How I Learned To Love The Bootboys
The Auteurs - New wave
Bardo Pond - Lapsed
Bark Psychosis - Hex
Basement Jaxx - Remedy
Basic Channel - Basic Channel
Beastie Boys – Check Your Head
Beastie Boys – Hello Nasty
Beat Happening – You Turn Me On
Beck - Mellow Gold
Beck - Midnite Vultures
Beck – Odelay
Belle and Sebastian - The boy with the Arab Strap
Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk
Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five
Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen
Betty Boo – Boomania
Biosphere - Substrata
Bjork - Homogenic
Bjork – Post
Black Moon – Enta Da Stage
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Blur – Parklife
Boards of Canada – Music Has the Right to Children
Bonnie ‘Prince’ Billy – I See A Darkness
The Boo Radleys - C'mon Kids
The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
Boredoms: Chocolate Synthesizer
Boredoms - Super AE
Billy Bragg and Wilco – Mermaid Avenue
Brainiac - Bonsai Superstar
Brainiac - Hissing Prigs In Static Couture
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Built to Spill - There's Nothing Wrong with Love
Caifanes – El Silencio
Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night
Capone and Noreaga – The War Report
Carcass – Heartwork
The Cardigans – Life
Mariah Carey – Emotions
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Boatman's Call
The Charlambides – Market Square
The Chemical Bros. - Dig Your Own Hole
vic chesnutt - the salesman and bernadette
chico science - da lama ao caos
The Chills - Submarine Bells
Clouds - Penny Century
Cocteau Twins – Heaven or Las Vegas
Cornelius - Fantasma
The Coup - Steal This Album
The Cure - Wish
Curve - Pubic Fruit
Daft Punk - 'Homework'
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
The Dead C - Harsh 70s Reality
The Dead C - The White House
De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate
De La Soul – De La Soul Is Dead
The Delgados - Peloton
Denim - Back in Denim
Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith & Devotion
Depeche Mode - Violator
Destiny’s Child – The Writing’s On the Wall
dEUS - In a Bar, Under the Sea
Disco Inferno - DI Go Pop
Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I
DJ DB - A History of Our World Vol. 1: Breakbeat and Jungle Ultramix
DJ Quik - Quik is the Name
DJ Shadow – Endtroducing
Dog Faced Hermans - Those Deep Buds
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Drive Like Jehu - s/t
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
Duran Duran - Medazzaland
The Dust Brothers - Fight Club
Eels – Beautiful Freak
Eels - Electro Shock Blues
808 State – Ex: El
Mark Eitzel – 60 Watt Silver Lining
Elastica – Elastica
Missy Elliott – Supa Dupa Fly
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
En Vogue - Funky Divas
Eve – Let There Be Eve….Ruff Ryders’ First Lady
Th'Faith Healers - Lido
Faith No More - Angel Dust
The Fall - Extricate
The Fall "The Infotainment Scan"
Fatboy Slim - On the Floor at the Boutique
Ibrahim Ferrer - Buena Vista Social Club Presents Ibrahim Ferrer
Firewater - Get Off the Cross, We Need the Wood for the Fire
Flaming Lips - clouds taste metallic
The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin
The Flaming Lips – Zaireeka
Robert Forster – Danger In the Past
fugazi - 13 songs
The Fugees – The Score
Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Spinning Around The Sun
Goldie – Timeless
Gorky's Zygotic Mynci: Barafundle
Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep
Green Day - Dookie
The Grifters - Crappin' You Negative
Grooverider - Hardstep Selection II
Ground Zero - Consume Red
Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes
Guided by Voices - Bee Thousand
Guitar Paradise of East Africa – V/A
A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
Gza - Liquid Swords
Hammer – 2 Legit 2 Quit
Happy Mondays – Pills n Thrills n Bellyaches
PJ Harvey – Dry
PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
Herbert - Around the House
Lauryn Hill – The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Hole - Live Through This
Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted
i-F - Mixed up in the Hague
In the Woods - Omnio
Michael Jackson - Dangerous
Jay-Z - Volume 3: The Life and Times of S. Carter
Jeru The Damaja - Wrath Of The Math
Jesus Lizard - Goat
Jesus Lizard – Liar
Freedy Johnson - Can You Fly
Julee Cruise - Floating into the Night
Juvenile - 400 Degreez
Kelis - Kaleidescope
Kenickie - At The Club
Killing Joke - Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions
Kitchens of Distinction - The Death of Cool
KLF - Chill Out
Kristin Hersh - Hips and Makers
Kruder and Dorfmeister – The K&D Sessions
Kyuss: Welcome To Sky Valley
Labradford - Mi Media Naranja
Lamb - Lamb
Lambchop - How I Quit Smoking
K.D. Lang - Ingenue
Leila - Like Weather
The Lemonheads – It’s A Shame About Ray
don lennon - maniac
LFO – Frequencies
The Lilac Time – Astronauts
The London Boys – The 12 Commandments of Dance
LTJ Bukem Presents Logical Progression Vol. 1
Lullaby For the Working Class – Blanket Warm
Luna - Penthouse
Lycia - The Burning Circle and Then Dust
Madonna – Erotica
Madonna - Ray Of Light
The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
Manic Street Preachers – The Holy Bible
Mansun – Six
Victor Manuelle: A Pesar de Todo
Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos - Muy Divertido
April March - Chrominance Decoder
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Masters at Work - Nuyorican Soul
Mazzy Star, She Hangs Brightly
Mekon - Welcome to Tackletown
Mercury Rev – Boces
mercury rev - deserter's songs
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
Midi Maxi and Efti – Midi Maxi and Efti
Jeff Mills - mix-up vol. 2 (aka live at the liquid room)
Mimeo - Mimeo
Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Moby - Everything Is Wrong
Monster Magnet – Dopes to Infinity
Moodymann – A Silent Introduction
Moonshake - Eva Luna
Moose - Live a Little, Love a Lot
Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
Motorbass - Pansoul
Mr. Bungle - California
Mr T Experience - Love Is Dead
My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
My Life Story - Mornington Crescent
Sainkho Namtchylak – Lost Rivers
Nas - Illmatic
The Necks - Hanging Garden
Neutral Milk Hotel – In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Nirvana - In Utero
Nirvana – Nevermind
Stina Nordenstam- and she closed her eyes
Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Oasis – What’s the Story Morning Glory
Old 97's Wreck Your Life
The Olivia Tremor Control - Black Foliage
Omni Trio - Vol 1: The Deepest Cut
Omoide Hatoba - Black Hawaii
One Dove - Morning Dove White
The Orb – The Orb’s Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
The Orb – U.F.Orb
Orbital - Brown Album
Orbital - In Sides
Orbital - Middle of Nowhere
Orbital – Snivilization
Outkast - Aquemini
Oval – 94 Diskont
Palace Brothers - Days in the Wake
Pale Saints - Comforts of Madness
Pan Sonic - A
Paperclip People - Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich
Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
Pavement - Crooked Rain Crooked Rain
Pet Shop Boys – Behaviour
Pet Shop Boys - Nightlife
Pet Shop Boys – Very
Liz Phair – Exile in Guyville
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
Piano Magic - Low Birth Weight
pinback – pinback
pixies - trompe le monde
Pizzicato Five - Happy End of the World
Pole - 1
Polvo - Exploded Drawing
Portishead – Dummy
Prick - Prick
Primal Scream – Screamadelica
Primal Scream - 'Vanishing Point'
Prince - Diamonds and Pearls
The Prodigy - Experience
The Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation
Propagandhi - Less Talk More Rock
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Pulp - Different Class
Pulp - His'n'Hers
radiohead - the bends
Radiohead - OK Computer
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Rancid - And Out Come The Wolves
Reactivate 10: Snappy Cracklepop Techno – Various (mixed by Blu Peter)
Red House Painters – Red House Painters (rollercoaster cover)
R.E.M. - Automatic For The People
R.E.M. – New Adventures in Hi Fi
R.E.M. – Out of Time
The Renderers – I Dream of the Sea
Ride - Going Blank Again
Ride – Nowhere
Rocketship - A Certain Smile, A Certain Sadness
Roni Size – New Forms
Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand
Royal Trux - Sweet Sixteen
Ruins - Hydermastgroningem
Sade - Love Deluxe
Saint Etienne - Continental
Saint Etienne - Foxbase Alpha
Saint Etienne - Good Humor
Saint Etienne - So Tough
Saint Etienne - Tiger Bay
Paul Schutze - New Maps Of Hell
Screaming Trees – Dust
Sonny Sharrock - Ask The Ages
Shellac – At Action Park
69 - The Sound of Music
Sleater–Kinney – Call the Doctor
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
Sloan - One Chord to Another
Slowdive - Souvlaki
Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness
The Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Elliott Smith - Either/Or
Smog - Julius Caesar
Smog - Red Apple Falls
Snoop Doggy Dogg – Doggystyle
Soundgarden – Superunknown
Sparklehorse - Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot
Spice Girls – Spice
Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies
Spoon - A Series of Sneaks
Squarepusher – Hard Normal Daddy
Stereolab - Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night
Stereolab - Emporer Tomato Ketchup
Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts with Announcements
Stereolab – Dots and Loops
Stereo MCs - Connected
STONE TEMPLE PILOTS - PURPLE
The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic
Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic
Super Furry Animals - Guerilla
Super Furry Animals – Radiator
Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
Teenage Fanclub – Bandwagonesque
Telescopes - Telescopes
terrorvision - how to make friends and influence people
They Might Be Giants – Flood
The 3rd and the Mortal - Tears Laid In Earth
David Thomas - Meadville
Three 6 Mafia - Chapter 2: World Domination
Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona
Throwing Muses - University
Tindersticks - Tindersticks (2nd)
TLC - crazysexycool
Amon Tobin – Permutation
Tool - Aenima
A Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
Tricky – Maxinquaye
Turbonegro - Ass Cobra
Shania Twain - Come On Over
2Pac - All Eyez on Me
Ultramarine - Every Man And Woman Is A Star
Underworld - Beaucoup Fish
Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman
Underworld - Second Toughest in the Infants
Unrest - Imperial ffrr
Utah Saints - Utah Saints
U2 – Achtung Baby
µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness
Velocity Girl – Simpatico
The Verve - A Northern Soul
Scott Walker - Tilt
Warrant - Cherry Pie
The Wedding Present - Seamonsters
Ween - GodWeenSatan
Ween - The Mollusk
Ween - Pure Guava
Weezer – Pinkerton
Weezer – Weezer
Paul Weller – Stanley Road
Whiskeytown - Faithless Street
Wilco - Being There
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Woob – Woob 11:94
World of Twist – Quality Street
The Wrens - Secaucus
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang: The 36 Chambers
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One
Otomo Yoshihide - Cathode
The Young Gods - Only Heaven


TRACKS

Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?"
Aaliyah - "One In A Million"
ACEN _ “Trip II the Moon (Part III)
Adorable – “Sunshine Smile”
Christina Aguilera - "Genie in a Bottle"
Aimee Mann - "Amateur"
Air – “All I Need”
Altern8 - Activ8
Eddie Amador – “House Music”
Amira – “My Desire (Dreem Teem Mix)”
Tori Amos – “Professional Widow” (Armand Van Helden remix)
Aphex Twin - Girl/Boy Song
Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker"
Aphex Twin - Xtal
Aqua – “Dr Jones”
Arab Strap – “The First Big Weekend”
Archers of Loaf - "The Lowest Part is Free"
Archers of Loaf - "Web in front"
ATB – “Till I Come”
Atlantic Ocean – Waterfall
Autechre: Arch Carrier
The Avalanches - "Electricity"
Babybird – You’re Gorgeous
Backstreet Boys - "I Want It That Way"
Buju Banton - "Untold Stories"
Bark Psychosis - "A Street Scene"
Basement Jaxx - "Rendez-Vu"
Beastie Boys – “Intergalactic”
Beatnuts - “Watch Out Now”
Beck - "Loser"
Chris Bell – “I Am The Cosmos”
Belle & Sebastian - "Stars of Track and Field"
Belle & Sebastian - "The State I Am In"
belle and sebastian - string bean jean
Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"
Belvedere Kane - "Never Felt As Good"
The Beta Band - "She's The One"
Betty Boo – “Where Are You Baby?”
B-52s – “Roam”
Bikini Kill – “Rebel Girl”
Björk - "Human Behaviour"
Bjork "Hyperballad"
Björk - "Jóga"
Bjork – “Venus As A Boy”
Black Sheep - "Similak Child"
Blackstreet - "No Diggity"
Blame - "2 Bad Mice Take You"
Mary J. Blige - "Real Love"
Blink 182 - “Dammit”
Blur – “Coffee and TV”
Blur - "For Tomorrow"
Blur – “No Distance Left To Run”
Blur - "Parklife"
Blur – “Song 2”
Boards of Canada – “Turquoise Hexagon Sun”
Bone Thugs-n Harmony – “Tha Crossroads”
Boo Radleys: Lazarus
Boredoms - "Super Going"
The Breeders - "Cannonball"
Jeff Buckley - "Hallelujah"
The Cardigans – “Lovefool”
Mariah Carey - "Vision Of Love"
Catherine Wheel - "Black Metallic"
Chaka Demus and Pliers - "Murder She Wrote"
Cher – “Believe”
Allen Clapp - "Something Strange Happens"
Cocteau Twins - "Summerhead"
Julian Cope - "Safesurfer"
Cornershop - "Brimful of Asha"
Corona – “Rhythm of the Night”
The Cure – “Letter To Elise”
The Cure - "Pictures of You"
Cypress Hill - "Hand on the Pump"
Daft Punk - "Around the World"
Daft Punk – “Da Funk”
Dead Dred – “Dread Bass”
Deadeye Dick – “New Age Girl”
Deee-Lite "Groove is in the Heart"
De’Lacy – “Hideaway (Deep Dish mix)”
De La Soul – “A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays”
Dem 2 - "Destiny (Sleepless)"
Iris Dement – No Time To Cry
Depeche Mode - "Enjoy the Silence"
Destiny's Child - "Bills, Bills, Bills"
destiny's child - say my name
Digital Underground – The Humpty Dance
Dinosaur Jr - "Start Choppin'"
Disco Inferno - "It's A Kid's World"
Disco Inferno - "Love Stepping Out"
Disco Inferno - "Summer's Last Sound"
Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"
Dismemberment Plan - "The City"
DJ Shadow - "High Noon"
DJ Tim Dj Misjah – “Access”
Doop – “Doop”
Dr. Dre – “Keep Their Heads Ringin’ “
Dr. Dre – “Nuthin’ But A G Thang”
Dubstar - "Stars"
Eminem - "My Name Is"
Eno / Cale - "Cordoba"
En Vogue – “Free Your Mind”
Everything but the Girl - "Walking Wounded"
Eyeless In Gaza - "To Cry Mercy"
Fatboy Slim - 'Santa Cruz'
Fat Pat - "Ghetto Dreams"
Five - "Keep On Moving"
Folk Implosion - "Natural One"
The Foo Fighters - "Everlong"
Foul Play – “Open Your Mind”
Fountains of Wayne - "Radiation Vibe"
Freak Nasty – Da Dip
The Future Sound of London - "Papua New Guinea"
Diamanda Galas - Gloomy Sunday
Galaxie 500 – “4th of July”
Gang Starr feat. Nice n Smooth - "DWYCK"
Geto Boys - "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"
Gin Blossoms – “Hey Jealousy”
Ginuwine - "Pony"
Grooverider - Hardstep Selection II
Grupo Niche: "Cielo de Tambores"
Guided By Voices - Echos Myron
Guided by Voices - "Game of Pricks"
Guided by Voices - Motor Away
Keiji Haino - 'Affection'
Hanson - “Mmmbop”
Happy Mondays – “Kinky Afro”
Hardfloor - Acperience
Heavens To Betsy, "My Red Self"
The Hit Parade – Autobiography
Hootie and the Blowfish – “Hold My Hand”
The House Crew, "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"
House of Pain – “Jump Around”
Huggy Bear - "Her Jazz"
Hyper-on Experience - "Lords of the null lines"
Ice Cube - "It Was A Good Day"
Ice Cube - "The Nigga You Love To Hate"
IO - Claire
Isolee - “Beau Mot Plage”
Jam & Spoon feat Plavka - "Find Me (Odyssey to Anyoona)"
James – “Laid”
Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'"
Jeru the Damaja - "Come Clean"
Jeru the Damaja - 'You Can't Stop The Prophet'
Jones & Stephenson - The First Rebirth
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - "Full Grown"
Jordan Knight - "Give It To You"
Jude – “I Know”
The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu – “It’s Grim Up North (Pt 1)”
Kelis - “Get Along With You”
R. Kelly feat. Keith Murray - "Home Alone"
Kitchens of Distinction - The Death of Cool
KLF and Tammy Wynette - "Justified and Ancient"
The KLF - "Last Train to Trancentral"
Kula Shaker – “The Sound of Drums”
Kyuss "El Rodeo"
Laika - "Sugar Daddy"
Lamb - "Gorecki"
Leftfield - Open Up
Lilys - "Ginger"
LL Cool J - "Around The Way Girl"
LL Cool J - "Mama Said Knock You Out"
Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - "Matador"
Love Inc. - R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
The Lyte Funky Ones – “Summer Girls”
Madonna – “Deeper & Deeper”
Madonna - "Ray of Light"
Madonna - "Vogue"
The Magnetic Fields – Dancing In Your Eyes
magnetic fields - the luckiest guy on the lower east side
Magnetic Fields - No One Will Ever Love You
Magnetic Fields - "100,000 Fireflies"
Manic Street Preachers - 'Faster'
Manic Street Preachers - "Stay Beautiful"
Mano Negra – “King Kong Five”
Marvelous Cain – “The Hitman”
Massive Attack – “Angel”
Massive Attack - "Karmacoma"
Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"
The Mavericks – “Dance the Night Away”
Mazzy Star - "Fade Into You"
Lisette Melendez - "A Day In My Life (Without You)"
Mercury Rev - "Car wash hair"
Meshuggah - New Millennium Cyanide Christ
George Michael – “Fast Love”
Kylie Minogue - "Better the Devil You Know"
Missy Elliott - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
Mobb Deep – Shook Ones Pt II
Mogwai – “Mogwai Fear Satan”
Monaco - "What Do You Want From Me?"
Montell Jordan - "This is How We Do It"
Mark Morrison - "Return of the Mack"
Mos Def - "Universal Magnetic"
The Mountain Goats - "Going to Georgia"
My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"
My Bloody Valentine - "To Here Knows When"
My Bloody Valentine "When You Sleep"
Naughty By Nature - "OPP"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"
New Order - "Regret"
New Radicals - "You Get What You Give"
Next – “Too Close”
Nightmares on Wax – “I’m For Real”
Nirvana - Drain You
Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Nirvana – “The Man Who Sold the World”
N-Joi – “Live in Manchester pt.1”
Noreaga - Superthug
Notorious BIG - "Hypnotize"
Notorious BIG - "Juicy"
Notorious BIG f/ Puffy and Ma$e - "Mo Money Mo Prolems"
Notorious BIG - "Things Done Changed"
The Notwist – “Puzzle”
Oasis – “Live Forever”
Sinead O'Connor - "Nothing Compares 2 U"
Ol' Dirty Bastard - Brooklyn Zoo
Ol' Dirty Bastard - "Got Your Money"
Ol' Dirty Bastard - "Shimmy Shimmy Ya"
Old 97s - Timebomb
OMC, "How Bizarre"
Omni Trio - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"
The Orb – Little Fluffy Clouds
Orbital - "Belfast"
Orbital - "Chime"
Orbital - "Halcyon"
Orlando - "Contained"
Orlando - "Just for a Second"
Joan Osbourne - "Right Hand Man"
Palace Music - “New Partner”
Paris Angels - "All On You (Perfume)"
The Pastels - Speeding Motorcycle
Pavement – Shady Lane
Pearl Jam – “Smile”
Pepe Braddock - "Deep Burnt"
Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring
Pet Shop Boys - "Can You Forgive Her"
Pharoahe Monch - "Simon Says"
Photek - Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu
Piano Magic - "Wrong French"
Pinback - "Loro"
Pixies - "Alec Eiffel"
Pizzaman - 'Trippin' On Sunshine'
Placebo - "Pure Morning"
Portishead - "All Mine"
Portishead - "Sour Times"
Pram - "Chrysalis"
Prince - "Gett Off"
The Prodigy - Break & Enter
The Prodigy – Breathe
The Prodigy - Everybody IN the Place
The Prodigy – Poison
PUFF DADDY - I'LL BE MISSING YOU
Pulp - "Babies"
Pulp - "Something Changed"
Pulp - "Common People"
Pulp - "Disco 2000"
Pulp – “do you remember the first time”
Pulp – “This Is Hardcore”
Quad City DJs - "C'Mon Ride It (The Train)"
Radiohead - "Airbag"
Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
Radiohead – “The Bends”
Raekwon feat. Ghostface Killah & Nas - 'Verbal Intercourse'
Red House Painters - "Have You Forgotten?"
Red House Painters – “Japanese To English”
Reel 2 Real - "I Like to Move It"
R.E.M. - "Losing My Religion"
Remarc - “RIP”
Ride – “Close My Eyes”
Right Said Fred – “I’m Too Sexy”
Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth - "T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You)"
Rocketship - "Your New Boyfriend"
Royal Trux "I'm Ready"
Rufige Kru - 'Terminator'
Ed Rush, Optical, and Fierce – “Alien Girl”
Sabres of Paradise – “Wilmot”
Saint Etienne – “Avenue”
Saint Etienne - "He's on the Phone"
Saint Etienne - "Like a Motorway"
Saint Etienne – “Nothing Can Stop Us”
Saint Etienne – “You’re In A Bad Way”
Scarlet - "Independent Love Song"
Shampoo - "Bouffant Headbutt"
Shanice - "I Love Your Smile"
Shellac - "Doris"
Talvin Singh ft. Amar - "Jaan"
Sixpence None The Richer - "Kiss Me"
69 - Rushed
Skeleton Key - "Wide Open"
Sleater-Kinney – “Call the Doctor”
Sleater-Kinney - "Get Up"
Slowdive - "Allison"
Slowdive - "Avalyn"
Smashing Pumpkins - "Cherub Rock”
Snap – “Rhythm Is A Dancer”
Sneaker Pimps - "Spin Spin Sugar (Armand's Dark Garage Mix)"
Snoop Dogg - "Murder Was The Case"
Soho – “Hot Music”
Sonic Youth - "The diamond sea"
Sonic Youth – “Four”
Sonic Youth - "Skip Tracer"
Sonic Youth – “Wish Fulfillment”
Sonz of a Loop Da Loop Era – “Far Out”
Soul Asylum - "Somebody to Shove"
Souls of Mischief - '93 'Til Infinity
The Source feat. Candi Staton – “You Got the Love (remix)”
Britney Spears - "Baby One More Time"
Spinanes - "Hawaian Baby"
Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"
Stereolab - "Crest"
Stereolab - "French Disko"
Suede - "Film Star"
Sugar Ray - "Someday"
superchunk – “question is how fast”
Superchunk - "Slack Motherfucker"
Supergrass – “Caught By the Fuzz”
Swervedriver - "Never Lose that Feeling"
SWV - Right Here
Teenage Fanclub - "The Concept"
Teenage Fanclub – “December”
This Ascension - "August Rain"
TLC - "Creep"
TLC - "No Scrubs"
T99 - Anasthasia
Tom Waits - "Who Are You"
Tony Toni Tone - "If I Had No Loot"
Tortoise, "Djed"
TQ - "Westside"
A Tribe Called Quest - "Award Tour"
A Tribe Called Quest - "Electric Relaxation"
A Tribe Called Quest – “Luck of Lucien”
A tribe called quest- “scenario”
Tribe Of Issachar featuring Peter Bouncer - "Junglist"
Trick Daddy feat. Trina - "Nann Nigga"
Tricky – “Black Steel”
Tricky - "Christiansands"
Tricky - "For Real"
Shania Twain - "Any Man of Mine"
2 Bad Mice - "Bombscare"
2Pac feat. Dr. Dre – “California Love”
2Pac - "Dear Mama"
2Pac – “How Do You Want It?”
Underworld - "Born Slippy NUXX"
Underworld - Cowgirl
Underworld - "Jumbo"
Underworld - "King of Snake"
Unique 3 - "The theme"
U.N.K.L.E. f/ Thom Yorke - "Rabbit in Your Headlights"
Urban Cookie Collective - 'The Key, The Secret'
Utah Saints - "Something Good"
Vangelis feat. Stina Nordenstam – “Ask the Mountain”
VANILLA ICE - ICE ICE BABY
Velocity Girl - "My Forgotten Favorite"
Vengaboys - "We Like To Party"
Ricardo Villalobos - "808 the Bassqueen"
Violent Femmes- "I Held Her In My Arms"
Warren G feat. Nate Dogg - "Regulate"
White Town – “Your Woman”
Windy and Carl – “Antarctica”
World of Twist - "Sons of the Stage"
Wu-Tang Clan - “C.R.E.A.M.”
Wu-Tang Clan – “Shame on a Nigga”
Wu-Tang Clan - "Triumph"
Yo La Tengo - "Moby Octopad"
Yo La Tengo - Nowhere Near
Yo La Tengo - "Tom Courtenay"
Zombie Nation - "Kernkraft 400"

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 11 September 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

this is where you should look for choices, the other list had a couple of albums in the tracks section

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

How are you monitoring people voting from numerous email addresses?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I would imagine that people wouldn't be crazy enough to cheat on an ILX poll but if someone does, I guess there's not much to be done about it, honestly.

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 12 September 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Geto Boys will be #1 then, ha

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 12 September 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Like mitch did, I'll post albums that interest me and I'd probably be likely to vote for but don't have and haven't listened to so I can't (i.e. wishlist;)):

Aphex Twin - SAW 85-92
Autechre - Amber
Autechre - LP5
Autechre - Tri Repetae [only know the later Autechre]
Bardo Pond - Lapsed
Biosphere - Substrata
Boredoms: Chocolate Synthesizer
Boredoms - Super AE
The Charlambides – Market Square
The Dead C - Harsh 70s Reality
The Dead C - The White House
Ibrahim Ferrer - Buena Vista Social Club Presents Ibrahim Ferrer
Ground Zero - Consume Red
LTJ Bukem Presents Logical Progression Vol. 1
Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos - Muy Divertido
Ruins - Hydermastgroningem
Mimeo - Mimeo
Oval – 94 Diskont
Tricky – Maxinquaye

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 12 September 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you want us to buy these for you. Like a gift. I don't understand.

danh (danh), Sunday, 12 September 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What is this? the Oscars? the thought that people care enough about the ILM poll to mail out free cd's to get more votes for their favoured album is hilarious, baffling and depressing!

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 12 September 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

do you think the mercury music award judges sent copies of Franz Ferdinand to each other?

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Sunday, 12 September 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

'(i.e. wishlist;))'

didn't anyone notice the winky emoticon?

(though I still have to send some CDRs to sundar-- will be done)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 September 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

How many albums & tracks can we vote for? Do we have to list them in order of preference?

daavid (daavid), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It explains it on the unrevised list threads. 30 of each, in order, yes. You don't need to list 30 if you don't want to, but it won't proportionatrly boost the points of the ones you do vote for.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Which albums were added? I can't go through that list again.

Seriously I am longing to do some sort of voting trade-off whereby I vote for only 20 albums just so I can vote for 40 tracks. Or even 10 albums and 50 tracks would suit me fine. I tried putting tracks in order and was distraught when CALIFORNIA FUCKING LOVE ended up at No 31, I can't not vote for that!

And this is without including all the stuff I would have loved had I heard it, which is at least 25% of the original list! Gah.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The Kitchens of Distinction's The Death Of Cool and Grooverider's Hardstep Selection II, Lex. They were mistakenly listed as tracks before.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool. I haven't heard either of those so no extra thinking needs to be done. I wish I had heard Grooverider though.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

who nominated 'Achtung Baby' cos i don't remember seeing it on the nominations thread?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

there's no savage garden "i want you" or veruca salt on this list.

i'm voting nader.

reo, Monday, 13 September 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem - karl picked it on the nominations list (on Aug 29th)

Alba (Alba), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Though no one will probably vote for it except me, to be picky, it is Freedy Johnston, not Johnson.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the not-so-subtle capitalization of "I'll Be Missing You" and "Ice Ice Baby" - the former was my class song the year I graduated high school, so no thanks.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

There does seem to be three albums that are early leaders in the standings, with some interesting dark horses lurking in the top 15. The tracks are up for grabs now but I think jesswtfomglol might be happy in the end, is all I'm saying

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

How many votes have you received so far?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I tossed Freedy a couple o points. I forgot about "Autumn Sweater." Oh well.

chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've received about 30 ballots so far. I'm not sure how many Steve got for the '00-'04 poll...

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

wait we have until oct 10 right?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

We have until Oct 1.
I think stevem received 200-250 ballots for the last poll.
But there's twice as much work to do for this poll, so I guess the votes will take longer to trickle in.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder if the count can be broken up into, so as to ease the burden of the work. i'll volunteer, if this is the case.

frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I must remember this is happening, when we get to the start of Oct: I don't visit ILM much, and I have an eye operation on the 1st, so I may easily be reading less than usual then.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this the list we should be using? Or are there more recent updates?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the most recent list, as far as I am aware.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

the newest update reveals that we can choose from 135 tracks on which redman guests

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

. . .or the 1,307 tracks which Busta guests.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Julio, I wanted to know if you're familiar with the premiere recording of "Four^6" with Joan LaBarbara, William Winant, and Leonard Stein and if so how you would compare it to the Sonic Youth - is there something about the SY that you think is either better or more important/interesting say in the phenomenon of a rock group using their sounds for a piece like this. I think the premiere is really good, particularly in terms of what they do with their voices and the percussion sounds. They leave a lot more space too.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Mind you, I've enjoyed the SY too.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Autechre fea. Redman: Arch Carrier
Bjork fea. Redman – “Venus As A Boy”
Dismemberment Plan fea. Redman - "The City"
The Mountain Goats fea. Redman - "Going to Georgia"
Palace Music fea. Redman - “New Partner”
Right Said Fred fea. Redman – “I’m Too Sexy”
The Source feat. Candi Staton and Redman – “You Got the Love (remix)”
Yo La Tengo fea. Redman - "Tom Courtenay"

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

two hours for that?

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

in the interim, i went to the doctor!

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

(true story)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

was it like that altman flick? with the women?

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

And Richard Gere?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Mr. T and the Women right?

http://www.catschwartz.com/archives/I-Love%20_MrT.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago)

now that's a buttplug

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago)

sundar -- that's the only recording of 'four' that I have but it wouldn't have mattered if i have that one bcz I find it quite difficult to contrast and compare two performances of the same piece (unless the differences are really obvious). I do have a recording of another of his number pieces: 'seven' on james tenney 2-CD set on hat art.

But yes, I chose that bcz it was a rock band taking classical (or, more importantly, post-war classical) music seriously -- its also abt sonic youth, from where they started and how they ended up here.

Ultimately this wz my favourite piece on 'goodbye 20th century' but I haven't heard it in a while.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:02 (twenty years ago)

can we get an update on number of votes received?

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I've received about 65 ballots thus far! Hopefully it will pick up steam.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)

'Steam' by East 17! How could we have forgotten?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago)

like this

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago)

'Steam' by Peter Gabriel, now there's a glaring omission

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago)

"Steam" by Peter Gabriel!

damn you xpost

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago)

i love that song. it makes me think of coked up rampantly hetero and somewhat vacuous power-brokers dancing with their feet still in a packed out neon cage of a terrible nightclub ten years ago. not that i ever actually witnessed such things, alas. (see also 'Big Time')

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago)

This is actually what I should be doing on a slow day at work, but the whole thing still just seems so daunting.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Both Steams are awful. 'Big Time' is OK though.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Let us determine which year is ILM's favorite, also!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago)

i just submitted my ballot. i would've waited, but i just kept changing it to no good purpose.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:09 (twenty years ago)

i submitted my ballot and it is awesome

alternately, my ballot is not awesome.

todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the diffs are very obvious Julio. It's an open score piece, i.e. it leaves a lot of room for improv - it's kind of a way of structuring improv from what I understand. (Cage didn't write in the Black Sabbath quotes that SY use, for example!) That's why it's so interesting to hear different performances of these pieces. It is interesting in this case to contrast a rock group's interpretation with modern classical musicians' interpretations. The Sonic Youth take seems like it may actually be more interesting if you treat it as a Sonic Youth track rather than if you think of it as a John Cage performance ITMS. (So maybe Vic Funk was more or less right when he said something similar and I bitched him out a couple years ago;)) On the other hand, is it contradicting John Cage's principles to judge one performance as 'better' than another? Is there a difference?

I really like the performance by the American Composers' Orchestra of Cage's "Seventy-Four". Check it out. It's on The Seasons, which is a wonderful disc.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago)

I think it would be cool, when results are posted, to include the login name of the person who nominated each album/track on the list. I want to be able to say: Yay, look, it's no. 2 (or whatever) and I nominated it! Although I'm not very optimistic about my nominations.

daavid (daavid), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:52 (twenty years ago)

let's keep 'em coming! two weeks left and I have 75-80 ballots in. I'm hoping to at least double that number...

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)

How have you been doing in terms of blurbs, Gear?

I'm gonna try to write up a bunch this weekend.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm okay on the blurbs. I figure if I don't get some for some of the albums, I'll just hunt through the archives.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Tell me if you want me to write any, I can usually be pretty flexible with this stuff.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:58 (twenty years ago)

OK, this is good news, I haven't sent my ballot yet because I was worried about preparing blurb submissions. Still, I will write too, if needed.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago)

this is the right list to work off of

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 20 September 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago)

also, there ain't as many responses as I would have thought. Maybe 65 different people at this point. Spread the word! Friday at midnight is the deadline!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:08 (twenty years ago)

also, there ain't as many responses as I would have thought. Maybe 65 different people at this point. Spread the word! Next Friday at midnight is the deadline!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago)

October 1st, that is.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Um, took me eye off the ball...where do we post the vote again?

piers (piers), Monday, 20 September 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago)

Gear, can I assume you've gotten my ballot?
Also happy to write a few of these.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 September 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago)

I did receive it!

you can vote by emailing me at this address....

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 20 September 2004 23:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm not mailing to anything that doesn't have a gmail address.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 20 September 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago)

Barry, I take it you've got a blurb done and ready for our favorite Philadelphia space rock outfit that has a penchant for Buddhist iconography?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 20 September 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago)

gear do you have a deadline for blurbs past oct 1? i want to write some stuff and will have more time after oct 5 or so.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago)

sure, it'll take me a couple of weeks to get things organized with the rankings, so there's plenty o'time. I plan on posting the lists when my current job ends, which is the 15th.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago)

really? that's soon. i'd figured you'd take until at least november.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago)

Are we allowed to hat0rize?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago)

well might take me longer than the 15th...I am a lazy fuckwit with no free time because of my heavy workload.

hatorize away!

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago)

Barry, I take it you've got a blurb done and ready for our favorite Philadelphia space rock outfit that has a penchant for Buddhist iconography?

Ha, I haven't done this yet ... I finally sent in my ballot a couple of days ago and I couldn't think of anything good to write about anybody at the time ... anyhow, if nothing suitable is in the archives, then I have offered my writing "talents" when the countdown is ready to begin.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:17 (twenty years ago)

Gear did you get mine? i offered help in it

teh pow! (blueski), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I got yrs, aye! I'll see if I need help. I might at the very least need some blurbs 'n' raves...

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:47 (twenty years ago)

i jus' wanted to push this up to keep it active...any update on the number of voters?

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago)

no ballots for two days! I hope there's a rush at the end...

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago)

wierd how everyone was going crazy over the nominating but not so much over the voting!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 23 September 2004 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Five reasons to vote if you haven't already:

1. Many of us were teenagers at some point during the 90's. Voting in this poll will finally give some purpose to those teenage years. Vindicate your youth!
2. You don't want Radiohead or Nirvana to win, do you? DO YOU???
3. Bragging rights. If you don't vote, you have no credibility if you want to brag that you picked the winners.
4. Gear, Dr. Bill, and stevem have worked hard.
5. This is your chance to show fellow ILM'ers how much you love house and techno. Don't let me us down.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago)

this is so tough

Richard K (Richard K), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Remember people, anyone but Bush

Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago)

Gear, you got my ballot yes?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 24 September 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago)

yessir

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 24 September 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago)

wait. what are the rules again? How many albums do I get to vote for? How many songs? I want answers!

skowly (skowly), Friday, 24 September 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago)

Up to 30 of each.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago)

extend the deadline if you haven't got more than 150 votes

teh pow! (blueski), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:22 (twenty years ago)

BUMP

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 25 September 2004 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Every time I look at that Tracks list I expect to see "Steal My Sunshine" and I never do. And it never stops hurting.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:01 (twenty years ago)

I have narrowed my albums down to 34, and my songs down to 51. It's gonna be tough painful after this.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 25 September 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago)

I just realized that there's a total lack of Jane's Addiction on this bitch. How the fuck did that happen?

Good call, Josh.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Bump to top of thread. I just sent my ballot in. How many so far, Gear?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 26 September 2004 09:18 (twenty years ago)

In a way it seemed like the deadline was too far away. the worst thing you can do if you want someone to do something is to give them lots of time to do it.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 26 September 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I just voted.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:57 (twenty years ago)

My album list has been narrowed to 25 -- not sure if it will stay there or be cut further. I don't think I can bear to cut any more, though.

My songs list is currently at 37. I am in the process of downloading all the songs I didn't already have so as to vet them all systematically!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 04:21 (twenty years ago)

gear you got mine right?

i can write stuff on julee cruise and smog if you want.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 27 September 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago)

jaymc are you really downloading everything on the list you don't have or are you just selecting some that seem interesting? Kudos if the former!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 27 September 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago)

to answer some above questions:

- about 100 ballots so far

- please do write something re: Smog and JC!

- and please hound people to vote!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 27 September 2004 06:56 (twenty years ago)

No, no, Sundar! I'm only actually downloading tracks on my shortlist that I've heard but don't actually own (most of them pop-radio hits) -- that way I can judge everything objectively, rather than relying on memory/nostalgia too much. (Bye bye, Mary J. Blige; "Real Love" ain't as good as I remember it.)

jaymc, Monday, 27 September 2004 07:00 (twenty years ago)

(And just to clarify: I'm not this weirdly super-empirical person -- I like how music lives on in one's memory, etc. -- but it's actually helping me narrow the list down!)

jaymc, Monday, 27 September 2004 07:03 (twenty years ago)

i devised my ballot using a logarithm developed by a chinese grad student at caltech.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:06 (twenty years ago)

also, gear: can i change one vote? (i actually had changed it and then sent you the unchanged version by accident)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:08 (twenty years ago)

(the grad student forgot to carry a zero)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:08 (twenty years ago)

Bump.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago)

My album list has been narrowed to 25 -- not sure if it will stay there or be cut further.

i thought it was top 30 for each anyway?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago)

go ahead and change Am

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:09 (twenty years ago)

Gear, sorry we are all being annoying and asking if you got our ballots, but did you get mine? My e-mail account has done some odd things from time to time. (I wrote something like "Ballot from the Real Rockist Scientist" on the subject line.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:14 (twenty years ago)

Gear, I wanna make a real simple change to my albums ballot only. It just involves swapping the placings of two records. Sorry to be so annoying. I will email it, if it is ok.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Is there any way that a list of the names of people whose ballots have been received can be posted here? If it's too much trouble, no problem, but it would put everyone's mind to rest.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago)

Jed: yes, it's 30, but I decided that I don't want to list that many albums.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i could have listed 30 albums, but i didnt want to.

i wanted to get it down to 20, but i could only get down to 21.

todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I must admit that I don't understand these "goals" of whittling a list down to fewer than 30 picks. Unless there just aren't 30 albums that you feel you like enough to warrant inclusion.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Has our attention LAPSED?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I only picked 20 albums. That's all I could justify considering that I'd only probably heard 30 of the ones that were nominated all the way through.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Unless there just aren't 30 albums that you feel you like enough to warrant inclusion.

Bingo. I feel like my list would get watered down near the end otherwise.

By the way, my albums are at 25, and my singles are (finally!) at 30. Now I just need to rank them, and I'll be good~!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, good for those who only picked 20 in that situation. It's kind of self-centred to pick the last ten just cause you've heard them, and just quite like them.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)

i'll pick as many as i can, for the good of the game

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh, we're only supposed to vote for stuff we absolutely lurve?

xpost

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Has our attention LAPSED?
I don't think so Leeeeeeeeeee, but many people have been slow to dive into the poll lately. Also, there have been so many new threads lately, and this one has been buried beneath all the other content, wandering up and down the New Answers board like a lost lamb.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh, we're only supposed to vote for stuff we absolutely lurve?

Well, my reasoning for not wanting as many as 30 albums per person was that, for a lot of us, the last 10 or so would be fishing around for things we just quite like. Now I'm a bit divided about this, because I'm suspicious of people who go on about how passionate one must be about records, but my feeling on balance is this fishing around leads to a less interesting final list? Why? Because those 10 or so records are (I think) more likely to be more obvious, canonical albums, just because more people have heard them. So those albums get a placing higher than they would do in an ideal world, where we would all get to hear every one of the nominated albums and make our decisions on that basis.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago)

sundar, some people are only picking stuff that we feel is "worth" including in a "best of" list, but there's certainly no hard/fast rule that sez you gotta do that too.

True, Barry. I wonder if there's a general lack of a spiritualized sentiment here nowadays. I miss those halcyon days. Hopefully, though, people will vote for autechre too.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago)

(my logic may well be faulty, in which case I'd be glad for anyone to point out how)

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)

ah well, there are those who think we should 30 thirty albums, and those who think we should list fewer, and never the twain shall meet.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)

at least nowhere on this orb we call earth.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago)

that was a big pun, jaymc.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't see it that way, Alba: for me, it was distressing having to leave out 10 or 20 albums and tracks that I loved, even from the list we were given. I don't think my way of doing this would lead to any more canonical feel to the lower section - I copied and pasted favourites from the nominations, and placed them where they belonged as I went, then went back and numbered and chopped off the excess. I guess if people feel they should choose 30 but don't greatly care about that many, they could be more inclined to the canonical (though they could lean the other way - I don't see this as greatly less plausible), but we don't know that anyone is doing that anyway.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago)

I know it was that way for you, Martin, but you're someone who had a large proportion of the albums on the nominated list. If I could find out what the average number of albums people properly knew off the list was, my point would be stronger, I guess.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I really think this argument just comes down to how many on the list you've heard. I've only heard 50 or so albums, and even voting for 25 seems a bit much.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago)

That's my point, I think. The 30 depends on an assumption of a higher number of albums-known-well-per-voter than is actually the case, is my contention. But it doesn't matter if people self-regulate themselves.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago)

I just checked: I have 93 of the listed albums. It's been clear since very early that you aren't compelled to list 30 if there aren't 30 you really care about, so I hope people aren't voting for things they only quite like.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, guess it's different for everyone. I had a rough time getting it down to 30. I mean there wasn't anyting in the list I hadn't heard, I own most of them, and a large portion of those rank among my alltime favorite records from ANY decade.

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:31 (twenty years ago)

i don't own every album i voted for

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago)

I mean there wasn't anyting in the list I hadn't heard

Cripes!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I won't swear to knowing them all by heart (but an alrmingly high portion of them I do)

let's just say that the 90s have a strong presence in my collection

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)

There is loads I've not heard at all. In fact, there are only a few I have heard in full that I don't own.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Someone claiming to have heard albums by Otomo Yoshide, African Head Charge, Drive Like Jehu, Prodigy, Ace of Base and Black Moon is probably lying.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I own around 60 currently. I have at ONE time owned about 70 and I've heard probably about 100 or so at one time or another.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Hope I can count on you to vouch for Namtchylak, rentboy;)

xpost

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Voting in the tracks was easy!

I have only 36 of the albums though, it's going to be tough.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't that make it easier?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:42 (twenty years ago)

i don't appreciate your insinuation/accusation, sir.
and i'm surprised more of you haven't

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Me? I was thrilled at the possibility that one more person knows and could vote for Sainkho.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)

What do you do? Is it some job that links to hearing so much? (I don't doubt it at all, incidentally.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)

I think it was my insinuation he was talking about actually, sundar.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:44 (twenty years ago)

in an effort to be fair, i went through the albums list and compiled the ones i haven't heard:

Black Moon – Enta Da Stage
Caifanes – El Silencio
chico science - da lama ao caos
Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Spinning Around The Sun
In the Woods - Omnio
Lullaby For the Working Class – Blanket Warm
Lycia - The Burning Circle and Then Dust
Victor Manuelle: A Pesar de Todo
Mimeo - Mimeo
Sainkho Namtchylak – Lost Rivers
The Renderers – I Dream of the Sea

so i guess i was not entirely truthful when i said i'd heard *all* of them. but i now have 10 items to slsk

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha I suspected Black Moon was the wild card there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Who's Black Moon?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago)

and no, i've just been collecting/listening/consuming music as a very top priority for the past 15 (or more) years.

it's strange that's so hard to believe. i would figure more of you were in the same boat

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Black Moon = a rap crew.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago)

ie that was a response to the person who asked if i worked in a place where listening was involved. i did used to hang around the record store with my best friend who worked there an AWFULLY EMBARRASING amount of my time in high school and college

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago)

I don't particularly like 10 - 12 of the albums I do have, so that's why it's tough.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago)

It was the ALL part that seemed unbelievable to me. Esp. cuz there is tons of stuff on this list I would actively AVOID listening to.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago)

sure - there's lots of stuff i would never want to hear again, but growing up during the 90s (i graduated high school in 93) i was subjected to a very large portion of it without much choice in the matter

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I suspect many of us have heard the the odd track by most of the the artists, rentboy, but just not liked them well enough to get hold of a complete album to listen to.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago)

what worries me is how many of those albums i can actually recite *ALL* of the lyrics/melodies from memory. is it possible for your brain to fill up from too much trivial information?

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I want you to start reciting Aqua's Aquarium, starting now!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)

i can assure you that neither of us wants that :-p

subsequently, i still have my copy of it (and at least a couple of different 12"s of Barbie Girl) what can i say, i was in my eurocheese phase about that time...

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago)

I currently own or owned something like 90 of the albums, so I had no problem picking 30 that I do actually really truly in fact love. I'm just annoyed that about half of those 30 I don't like nearly as much as the 30 or so albums I love even more, and which didn't get nominated at all (2 jazz albums total? one of which I nominated myself? what a joke), but them's the rules I guess. IOW, Martin OTM.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I own/have owned roughly 200 of the albums.
strange how some of them I don't even remember geting rid of (Julee Cruise, Matthew Sweet, Hammer) some may have disappeared one of the several times my car was broken into during shows at the Masquerade.
I know my favorite Cure bootleg tape went that way. I still weep over it some nights

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago)

i must say i'm impressed, rentboy. did you generally buy the 200, or did you get sent review copies or something?

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:56 (twenty years ago)

well there are over 40 albums i absolutely do love on the list but i can only think of 18 tracks i think are great.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago)

i'd say bought about half at retail. for the other half:

in high school i made friends with the local BMG rep and did some "high school PR" for her, giving away free cassingles at pep rallys and stuff, and in turn i got to raid their promo stockroom and take what i wanted. this went on for probably the better part of two years.

then i also had a best friend who helped run one of atlanta's main indie shops (shout out to criminal) and i'd always get the "friend of the store discount", etc

and then finally during college i had a unique situation, wherein a very rich boyfriend gave me lots of money and that made me feel weird, so i used to spend it nearly all on records to avoid the fact that it made me feel weird. cos somehow records could do that (but i'd rather not get into that last part too much here :-p)

needless to say, i've always been a rabid consumer of music. i'll be the first to tell you that my collection is way out of control. sadly, by adding slsk into the equation, i typically don't listen to things more than once or twice anymore, unless it's something really remarkable that just keeps itself in the car changer for longer than expected.

please note: this isn't about bragging or boasting my collection. i never intended it to be as such, i was merely responding to the fact that someone upthread wrongly assumed that most people hadn't even heard a decent minority of the albums/tracks in the list, and i responded back to say that yes, some of us most certainly had.

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago)

and yes, before anyone asks, the nickname rentboy grew out of my unease with said boyfriend. it was given to me by my record-store-best-friend sometime during college. and no i don't have sex with people for money. neither then nor now.

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I thought your email might suggest you were a DJ of some kind, which is why I asked.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i haven't been playing out much lately, but when i set this email account up in college, i was dj'ing regularly in a club in my college town. and i still do the odd occasional party
wish i could find time/excuse to do it more often, but such is growing up and turning into a corporate slave

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago)

someone upthread wrongly assumed that most people hadn't even heard a decent minority of the albums/tracks in the list, and i responded back to say that yes, some of us most certainly had.

I am interested, and don't think you're boasting at all. It was my assumption that you say was wrong, and though I may still be wrong, your experience doesn't disprove it at all. I said 'most', not all. OK, that's enough pedantry.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago)

though I may still be wrong, your experience doesn't disprove it at all. I said 'most', not all.

fair enough. :D

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Consider me stupid, but how long is each list supposed to be? Is this our top 20s or 30s or 50s? I can't remember what we decided.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago)

30 max.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I wish "Wonderwall" was on here. It's the only song I saw inspire an entire bar of really random Berkeley people to break out into spontaneous sing-a-long with the jukebox.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 September 2004 00:08 (twenty years ago)

"Champagne Supernova" as well.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 30 September 2004 00:10 (twenty years ago)

don't you mean "Champagne Supernover?"

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 00:28 (twenty years ago)

All right, tonight I'm gonna start the semi-ambitious task of d/ling all the songs that were nominated that I haven't heard yet. Hopefully I can get 'em all before the results are announced.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 30 September 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago)

I wish "Wonderwall" was on here. It's the only song I saw inspire an entire bar of really random Berkeley people to break out into spontaneous sing-a-long with the jukebox.

-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...) (webmail), September 29th, 2004 8:08 PM. (spencermfi) (later) (link)


I read this as "It's the only song I saw inspire an entire bar of really random Berkeley people to walk out..." which seemed a likelier scenario.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 30 September 2004 00:45 (twenty years ago)

I like "Wonderwall"!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago)

so do i



... not!

(ooh i bet you didn't see THAT coming!)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:13 (twenty years ago)

"Wonderwall" is kind of a great song, but the Oasis version is perpetually overshadowed in my mind by the Mike Flowers Pops and Ryan Adams covers.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 September 2004 05:16 (twenty years ago)

I like Cat Power's cover the best.

billstevejim, Thursday, 30 September 2004 05:19 (twenty years ago)

Keep those ballots coming, people!

as of 12 midnight PT (15 minutes from now) there will be 48 hours left to vote!

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 05:43 (twenty years ago)

i just list 30 albums/tracks in order of preference right?

(then ilx1990s@yahoo.com does some weird scoring thing, add it all up and Loveless comes out at number 1)

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 30 September 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago)

That is correct, Alang. 30 tracks and 30 albums. Or fewer if you want. Adding appreciations for any of them, also if you want.

I should send mine in. I've only written one review, but I suppose I can send others in later.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 30 September 2004 09:36 (twenty years ago)

"All right, tonight I'm gonna start the semi-ambitious task of d/ling all the songs that were nominated that I haven't heard yet. Hopefully I can get 'em all before the results are announced."


I've actually done this already. If anyone can accept large emails and wants something, let me know.

work's been slow.

danh (danh), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago)

i'd love to hear the

adorable
amira
bark psychosis
chris bell
black sheep
boo radleys
cocteau twins
disco inferno
folk implosion
diamanda galas
magnetic fields
pram
ride
royal trux
shampoo
69
soho
unique 3
villalobos
yo la tengo

tracks if you're willing to gmail

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Check your angstamail, Madam, you will have los Cocteau's "Summerhead."

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I've actually done this already. If anyone can accept large emails and wants something, let me know.

I've soulseeked the first ten, and they appear to all be showing up, but I'll let you know if there's something that slips through my fingers. Thanks.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Steve, I just sent you the Bark Psychosis track.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago)

omg Steve, you haven't heard "Lazarus" before???
boy are you in for a treat!

rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago)

i may have, seeing 'I Hang Suspended' on MTV was my intro to the Boo Radleys tho - it seems remarkably shoegrungey in my memory

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago)

do we have to accompany our choices with the weird rating system or will it all be worked out?

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago)

i'll send you the 69 stevem but i'll have to compress it right down, its fairly long.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)

"Lazarus" is all dubby and trumpety and an epic early 90s adventure along the lines of "Higher Than The Sun". Very quality.

rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago)

ps i can send it to you from gmail if you need

rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago)


Boo Radleys: Lazarus
The Magnetic Fields ? Dancing In Your Eyes
Magnetic Fields - No One Will Ever Love You
Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"
Stereolab - "Crest"
Stereolab - "French Disko"
Teenage Fanclub - "The Concept"
Teenage Fanclub ? ?December?
World of Twist - "Sons of the Stage"

These are the only tracks that I suspect I could my ballot if I listened to them, so if someone has any of these it would be nice
if you could gmail it to me :)

davichon (davichon), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago)

I can hit you up with the Radleys, MagFields, Massive Attack and Fannies.

Your choice.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Ahhhh, I finally voted!! 20 albums, 30 tracks. Whew.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago)

.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 1 October 2004 02:42 (twenty years ago)

...yea, not easy.

I'm glad I took those two days off of work to make my list!

peepee (peepee), Friday, 1 October 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Dr. Bill, I think the Boo Radleys & Massive Attack tracks are the most likely to make it to the list.

daavid (daavid), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:42 (twenty years ago)

Fuck! Tell me I still have some 12 hours to get a ballot in.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 1 October 2004 04:58 (twenty years ago)

you have 24 hours and 57minutes!

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:00 (twenty years ago)

When are the results unveiled?

billstevejim, Friday, 1 October 2004 05:10 (twenty years ago)

thanks to everyone for what they sent me

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.joek.com/blah/i/200403_voted.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:50 (twenty years ago)

I voted too. At last.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 October 2004 09:19 (twenty years ago)

how long, do I have?

RJG (RJG), Friday, 1 October 2004 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Midnight here plus... 8 or 9 hours for Gear's crazy Pacific Standard Time?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 October 2004 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Daavid, I sent you the Boos track. I'll be back to send you Massive in a couple hours.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 1 October 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Alba was so right about the too many album votes problem. I'm having trouble scraping together 15 albums I really love from the list, let alone 30.

Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I found it almost impossible to get down to 30. So many great albums I had to leave off.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I just voted for 10 or so albums.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I just sent my vote, hopefully it got through. I didnt include any comments, but I can write them later on if needed.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)

When I listed all the albums I liked in any real way from the list, it came to exactly 30. I had to whittle down the tracks though. It was a weird experience, trying to reconcile the stuff I was attached to because I actually listened to it a lot in the 90s with the 90s albums that I listen to most now but didn't know or listen to at the time.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago)

The hardest thing for me was reconciling which of the songs I liked most and which most needed my push to get them on (or high on) the list.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 1 October 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'll never understand the impulse behind "strategic" voting.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I suppose it's a little like those people who memorize obscure two-letter words in the Scrabble dictionary.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago)

That was quite difficult to say the least. I narrowed it down to 39 albums and ended up being hideously ruthless with the tracks, knocking them down to 33. I found it easier to discard tracks on the grounds that some artists had plenty other tracks I like that weren't nominated so I couldn't say with much conviction that that was one of my favourite tracks of the 90s when it's not even one of my favourite tracks by that artist, if that makes sense.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 1 October 2004 18:40 (twenty years ago)

jaymc - it's b/c you are "nu"-ILx. haw haw.

The harder part for me is the 90's albums I like now are not the 90's albums I liked in the 90's.

bnw (bnw), Friday, 1 October 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'll never understand the impulse behind "strategic" voting.

because some of us would be happier to see positive poll results for songs we love than to be 100% honest with our lists.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 1 October 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago)

I admit it's not exactly something to be proud of, but it's the way it is for some of us dorks.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago)

But if a song you love gets a positive poll result, doesn't the fact that you deliberately overrated it make it less rewarding?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago)

No, it makes it more rewarding because you know that it's largely due to you that it was put there.

Pulp doesn't need my help. I love "Babies" but there are 20 other songs that need my help that I love almost as much. I'd rather see Geto Boys unexpectedly make the list than see "Babies" be the fourth Pulp song to place at #60 so.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Fair enough. I feel like this is emblematic is some essential difference in our personalities!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago)

"embematic OF"

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago)

of course i waited until the last minute to do this. ugh.

tricky disco (disco stu), Friday, 1 October 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Geto Boys unexpectedly make the list? Wha'?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 1 October 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Are You That Somebody? #1

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 October 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I just sent my votes in- is it too late, Gear??!

Richard K (Richard K), Friday, 1 October 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago)

the time is now 4:15 PM pacific time. There are 7 hours and 45 minutes to go! Keep em coming, lots of ballots have poured in!

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 1 October 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen, PDT is GMT - 8.00

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! I thought it was 20 votes each!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:59 (twenty years ago)

two hours left to go!

come on, stragglers and lurkers, get your asses in gear or teh vice versa will occur via boot

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 2 October 2004 03:54 (twenty years ago)

You got mine last week, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago)

And mine yesterday?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago)

yes indeed!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Mine?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:30 (twenty years ago)

yes!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:55 (twenty years ago)

three minutes away!

todd swiss (eliti), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:56 (twenty years ago)

TEH VOTING HAS ENDED

watch this space for results, which will begin trickling in eventually.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 2 October 2004 06:31 (twenty years ago)

Gear! Did you receive my last minute revision (and did you accept it? pretty please? I think I might have just made it under the wire)

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Saturday, 2 October 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009Z570.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 2 October 2004 06:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm partly guilty of strategic voting too, but I'd like to elaborate on it a bit, because it's not as cool and strategic as Jaymc seems to think. I voted for 30 albums and tracks; out of these, there are maybe 15 albums and 20 tracks I really really love, which makes it kinda hard to put them in any sort of order (the rest of the albs and tracks were a lot easier). I could probably rank them in a way which roughly represents how I feel about them, but that feeling could change within a day. So, instead of trying to put them in an "objective" order, I did the strategic thing. I think Orbital and 2Pac and Omni Trio are gonna get a lot of votes, so I didn't put them on the top of my track list. Snap!, Jam & Spoon and Love Inc., on the other hand, are not likely to rate as high on people's lists (if only for the simple reason that American ILXors probably aren't that familiar with them, especially with the latter two), which is why I put them on my top ten. This doesn't mean I love "Belfast" less than "Find Me", it's simply that I can't decide which one I like more, which is why strategic voting seemed like a better option to me.

Of course, if everyone thinks this way, it'll turn out to be a self-destroying prophecy, but somehow I feel that ain't gonna happen here.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 2 October 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago)

I just had like 8 albums and a little more than a dozen traxx, I have failed ILX

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

oops i forgot about this

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago)

That actually makes sense, Tuomas.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago)

can I still vote, gear?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago)

depends...what are you planning on voting for?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago)

How many did you get, Gear!?

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:50 (twenty years ago)

People are so hopeless.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 2 October 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago)

175 ballots in the end.

The deadline has passed but anyone with late ballots can send them through the end of the weekend while I look teh other way

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago)

I call cronyism.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:34 (twenty years ago)

I sent one in - did you get it Gear? Man, it was hard to whittle down tracks I kept going 'that looks about 30 left...55! Shit.' It was fun though, and thanks again for doing this, Gear. Are people going to get into a strop about who won? I hope so.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm looking forward to the results of this a lot. It's the first ILX poll I've taken part in. I'm really quite excited.

Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago)

Same here, but I don't think anybody but me here has heard "August Rain" so this list probably won't matter to me so much.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago)

I will not be Richard Daley to OK Computer's JFK, just to let everyone know.

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago)

Can I resubmit mine, being that I did it in about 4 minutes right at midnight? (could you tell!?)

minolta (minolta), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:23 (twenty years ago)

X-post. That was a bit cryptic Gear. If it was in response to my asking 'did you get it' I apologise.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:27 (twenty years ago)

not at all, I did get your ballot btw!

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh, thanks! I was just being paranoid. I would get annoyed if people kept asking about stuff.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 3 October 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago)

sent mine

; )

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:29 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream last night that the winners would be OK Computer and "Common People." So that's the way it's gonna be. Not too thrilled about Radiohead, but "Common People" is fine.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 4 October 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago)

i don't think it's for me to be "happy" or not with the results, but there are a lot of singles i like more than "common people" (which is great)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 4 October 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago)

"Common People" is a crowd-pleaser -- few will complain if it ends up at #1. I'd predict that it will be listed on the most ballots, as well.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 October 2004 02:52 (twenty years ago)

haha it was one of the Pulp songs I had to say no to.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 4 October 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Who does "Common People"?

xpost annoyed grunt joke dead

leeetarded (Leee), Monday, 4 October 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago)

I didn't rate "Slack Motherfucker" high enough. Damn.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 4 October 2004 03:19 (twenty years ago)

common people was high on my list, but there was a pulp song above it.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 4 October 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago)

I think I rated Common People at 3 and OK Computer at like 17.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 03:39 (twenty years ago)

i didnt even rate ok computer, common people at 4

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 4 October 2004 03:44 (twenty years ago)

ha todd, that's exactly what i did. kinda scary, actually.

lemin (lemin), Monday, 4 October 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago)

I didn't vote for "Common People": it's a decent song, sure, but it's never really had much place in my life. I had OK Computer at 18, I think.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 October 2004 05:28 (twenty years ago)

I didn't vote for it either, it means less than nothing to me, it's AN OKAY SONG I GUESS

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 4 October 2004 05:31 (twenty years ago)

I myself did not vote for OK Computer, but I did have "Common People" at 16.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 4 October 2004 05:32 (twenty years ago)

i'm not just the owner, i'm also a client

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 4 October 2004 05:34 (twenty years ago)

Wha?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 October 2004 05:39 (twenty years ago)

Jarvis Cocker was singing about Sy Sperling?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 October 2004 05:39 (twenty years ago)

so basically Kenny's dream is my ballot come to life, I had "Common People" at #1 and OKC at #1 on my respective lists. There are probably some songs I woulda voted for ahead of CP if they had been nominated, but given what we had to choose from, it was either that, "Triumph" or "Hyperballad" for me, with Pulp ultimately getting the slight edge.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 4 October 2004 07:58 (twenty years ago)

If Radiohead will win this poll too, I'm gonna fuckin' scream!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago)

OKC and "Common People" are my picks for the top, certainly (though I only voted OKC #10 and I didn't vote "Common People' at all).

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 4 October 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago)

So, Gear, when should we expect to hear the results?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:14 (twenty years ago)

the winner could be announced at Thanksgiving...

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Wait... maybe I was only dreaming about Josh Love's ballot.


I don't know what to think anymore!

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Can I apologise now for failing to vote for Foul Play. My feeble excuse: a combination of failing to notice it on the ballot until too late and/or not being ever able to remember titles/artists when it comes to jungle records anyway. But if it doesn't do so well, blame me. k thx bye.

Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

i concentrated my rave energies on 'far out' and 'terminator' personally - if they are the only two singles of that ilk to make the list along with 'renegade snares' and 'euphoria (nino's dream)' then i'll settle for that

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago)

50% of my votes were for rave tracks, the other 50% for hip hop/r&b (and the "Girl/Boy Song".) I didn't vote for anything else. More than 50% of my album votes were for hip hop, but I had 3 rave/jungle record in the top ten.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago)

And strangely I didn't vote for either "Far Out" or "The Terminator".

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago)

i'm all about the hits

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Haha I didn't think "Activ8", "Open Your Mind", "Dred Bass", and "Bombscare" were less hits in their respective scenes than "Terminator" or "Far Out" (actually excepting "Activ8", I wasn't aware any of these charted.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago)

"lord of the null lines" people!!

tricky disco (disco stu), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago)

That was definitely in my twenty.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago)

it'll be interesting to see which ones make the 100

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I hope all of them do!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Even though I know it's more likely that crap like "Common People" will rank higher.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I think the votes of ILM's American populace will stop too many rave classics entering the charts, even though a few of the Yanks are quite familiar with that stuff.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago)

i have never heard pulp.

tricky disco (disco stu), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I actually don't really dislike Pulp that much (compared to other brit-poppers they are actually marginally good) but even given the limited nature of the track's list "Common People" isn't one of the top 100 singles, let alone in the top 5.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago)

barely any of the indie made it into my list because most of it just missed the top 30. sorry pixies. i hope loveless beats ok computer.

tricky disco (disco stu), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I figured enough dopes were gonna vote for indie records so I didn't bother much (not that there are that many I liked on the list anyway.) None made it into my top 15.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Neither Common People nor OK Computer were in my lists, but I think Paranoid Android and Do You Remember The First Time? sneaked in at the tail end of my tracks top 30. I'll be very disappointed if Common People wins.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I voted no indie or rock at all in the recent poll, but plenty of Pulp in this one (4 tracks including Common People at #1, two albums in my top 4) - the rest is generally hip hop, dance and pop. Oh, also one Fall album.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago)

i had "common people." I had nothing else that could be described as "indie" really. My list was predominantly hip-hop, with a surprisingly large amount of R&B in the top ten (if I recall correctly).

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I voted "2 Bad Mice Take You" and "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)," though neither high. I would've been a lot more generous if "Raving I'm Raving," "On a Ragga Tip," "Dominator," "Everybody in the Place" or anything Acen but "Trip to the Moon (Part III)" were nominated.

Most of my top ten was mid-90s indie/alternative, except for "T.R.O.Y.," "Super Going," "Black Metallic" and the two Orbital songs in the top five.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Suddenly not looking forward to the results of this at all.

(The only indie track on my list is Placebo's "Pure Morning.")

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 4 October 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I have never heard "Common People," but then again I am young and not British

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 4 October 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago)

it's a more poncey 'friends in low places'.

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 4 October 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago)

it's the #1 go-to record if you want to know what jarvis cocker's phlegm sounds like

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 4 October 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I think it was my #3.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 4 October 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago)

actually #2, "i spy" definitely has more phlegm

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 4 October 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago)

or #3, if you consider "Acrylic Afternoons", but that is probably better described as "hyperventilating".

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 October 2004 23:10 (twenty years ago)

jarvis cocker in singing likable songs shockah

lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 05:35 (twenty years ago)

no faith in ilxors picking indie records for the poll? yikes! Well, I picked a bunch. Even if Rocketship won't make the top 100 I must represent.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Jarvis Cocker was hot in 1995 but now he is ugly.

Where is the list?

Atnevon (Atnevon), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago)

I didn't realize Unique 3 was on this list at all. :( That would have been in my top 20 for sure. Oh well.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I placed both "Common People" and OK Computer at #12 on their respective lists quite by coincidence. While I was one of those assholes who voted Kid A #1 on the 2000s poll (shit, I even nominated it when no one else had yet), I would be disappointed to see OKC win because I never considered it Radiohead's strongest work nor do I think it was that great in the context of what else was coming out at the time. But yeah, I had a pretty corny indie list save a few picks.

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago)

meanwhile, remember this?

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Steve, that looks amazing. Awesome work!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Mondo ditto.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm working slowly but surely on the poll results. A cursory search of my ballots for one particular keyword reveals an album that appears to have it in the bag, based on the overwhelming number of votes. But we'll see, there are others that were up there as well.

This might take awhile, but not too long.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago)

yay! neutral milk hotel!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I like the way stevem has compounded the 'Kid A' horror by crediting it to both Radiohead and Röyksopp.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I did not vote for Pulp or Radiohead.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was mathmaticaly impossible to avoid voting for a pulp song.

danh (danh), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago)

If Neutral Milk Hotel are high up on the list I will cry

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I gave "Common People" three points and didn't vote for Radiohead

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago)

I've never heard "Common People"!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago)

If Radiohead will win this poll too, I'm gonna fuckin' scream!
If Neutral Milk Hotel are high up on the list I will cry

You guys must spend a lot of your lives screaming and crying.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago)

At least I don't listen to NMH

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago)

What's Neutral Milk Hotel? A band? I didn't notice it on the list.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago)

A pox.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago)

I didn't vote for Pulp nor Radiohead either, obviously, though I have nothing against Pulp in particular. The only rock record that made it into my two lists was, perhaps surprisingly, Tindertsticks' second LP. I blame my friend for that, a few years ago she used to play that record at every afterparty she had at her place, and eventually I just grew to love it even though I don't own it myself.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I voted for much Pulp, but not 'Common People', just because I got so sick of hearing it and never really loved it in the way I love some other of their songs.

But then someone played it at a party I was at in London, and it was suddenly brilliant, so maybe I erred.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean -- Common People is the sort of song that is/was ubiquitous to the point that it's hard to judge how much one loves it anymore.
Nevertheless, that didn't stop "Hey Ya!" from winning the 00's poll.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I expect it will win and all, and I don't mind.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago)

C'mon Gear...

(lazy westcoaster...)

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait, when are the results posted again? The 10th?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Shit, I gotta get my blurbs in.

Gear, I strongly suggest you start new threads for the albums and singles when you post them. Each of them got to around 1000 posts on their own, having both in this already crowded thread would be a nightmare.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I heard a good cover of Common People the other day in Rough trade, anyone know who does it? It's kind of a croaky alt-country version.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I haven't heard it, but it's probably William Shatner's, jel.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Wow! Cool!

jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago)

The William Shatner one can be described as a lot of things, but croaky alt-country isn't one of them.

(xpost, sorry jel)

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Is there a more likely candidate? I am out of touch with my novelty cover versions.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago)

You can listen to the William Shatner one here and make your own minds up.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't want to hear it.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Was "Common People" really that ubiquitous? At the time I think I actually thought of it as kind of a novelty.

(I did get into DC later on.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:30 (twenty years ago)

I, like Jeff-PTTL, have never heard "Common People", nor any other Pulp song for that matter -- except for the one Marcello played at the end of his Resonance show (which song I enjoyed)

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago)

It was ubiquitous in the UK. I guess not in the US.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Or Canada, sorry.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I have a "goth" cover of Common People, it is awful.

"She just frowned and held my hand" etc

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago)

That's why I was surprised that MIR, who lives in Toronto, called it ubiquitous.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago)

I have a "goth" cover of Common People, it is awful.

"She just frowned and held my hand" etc

Now this I do want to hear!

Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago)

In the U.S., Pulp has always been a virtual non-entity beyond some movie soundtracks and some play on 120 minutes.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah "I Spy" was on the Mission: Impossible soundtrack. That was the first and only song of theirs I heard until last year.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 8 October 2004 19:02 (twenty years ago)

I only really heard Pulp because I had a couple of Anglophile friends in college.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 October 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago)

That's why I was surprised that MIR, who lives in Toronto, called it ubiquitous.
It was ubiquitous amongst the people I knew who were into the UK scene. So it was hugely popular amongst those fans -- as for the 99.9% of Torontonians who didn't follow that scene, all Britpop was considered a novelty, agreed.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Where are the results! These recent polls have been like Florida all over again! I want a recount of Steve's albums result!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago)

In the U.S., Pulp has always been a virtual non-entity beyond some movie soundtracks and some play on 120 minutes.

Umm, no. Had you not been in grade school when they toured in '93, you might have a different opinion.

The club was packed when I saw them and at least half of the crowd knew all the tracks enough to sing along loudly. This was for His N Hers. And friends who followed them onto other stops on the tour said each city was the same.

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago)

"club"

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago)

They were non-entities beyond the circle of anglophilic hipsters who followed them from city to city like a pasty mop headed Grateful Dead.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Well, let's put it this way, they pulled as much crowd as the Pixies, Nirvana and the Pumpkins did at the same club the same year.
Take that any way you want, but I WAS THERE

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Well obviously any band is extremely popular amongst their fans, the question is, how many North American fans did they have? Answer : probably 1/100 th as much as Tripping Daisy had at the time.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:34 (twenty years ago)

much many

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago)

(xx-post)It means that if four shows sell out the same club that it looks as though they were all equally popular when really all it means is that all four were capable of selling out the same club.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago)

that's one interpretation

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago)

I only remember "Underwear" played on big alternative stations (which was pretty cool).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago)

They played the B-side rather than 'Common People' itself? Now that is weird. I love 'Underwear'.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago)

I think Pulp has always drawn a lot of fans in the U.S., but it's definitely been limited to that "anglophilic hipster" crowd. It may be a fairly sizeable cult, but it's still essentially a cult. An average American has no idea who Pulp is.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:56 (twenty years ago)

POEPLE PLAESE BE PATENT

I'll have them up by Halloween!

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago)

haha it's way, waaay to late for me to put a ballot in! stupid sporadic internet access, &c.

etc, Friday, 8 October 2004 22:35 (twenty years ago)

common people was in regular rotation on mtv, i think, it's the video with the skyline in the background right? it's a good song but it didn't seem generation uniting, maybe cause i was in detreoit. i thought higher than the sun would have been the obvious choice for consensus but screamadelica hasn't held up that well i suppose and people still listen to them which is funny.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 9 October 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago)

i really hope it doesn't win now

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Is there a thread for most glaring omissions? I just noticed that there is no Renegade Soundwave or Heavenly in the nominees (although I would've voted for just one of those)

fernando, Monday, 11 October 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago)

hallowe'en is aaaaaaaaAAAaages. wannit now *stamp*

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago)

HURRY UP

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago)

hmmm, i'd forgotten about this. seems like Gear! did too

:-p

rentboy (rentboy), Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago)

:-(

i'm sure gear is doing his best, really folks, don't act so entitled

i think it'll be worth the wait

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago)

especially since pulp julee cruise will top both charts!

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Hey, if he didn't want people making whiny unrealistic demands of him, he shouldn't have started this project. HURRY UP.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Well, let's put it this way, they pulled as much crowd as the Pixies, Nirvana and the Pumpkins did at the same club the same year.
Take that any way you want, but I WAS THERE

-- rentboy (rentboyd...), October 8th, 2004.

didn't they tour with blur (who were more popular than pulp in 93) on that tour. I think the combination of them in 93 would fill up the clubs in us but not just pulp (or did pulp do more than one USA tour for his and hers)

jb, Monday, 25 October 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago)

DexDexTer opened for Pulp once. RoMo connections!

Really, though, it's been nearly a month.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago)

my current job was supposed to end Oct 15 and now it's been pushed to the end of this week. Plus this writing thing I've got going. Those have to come first obviously.

The singles poll will be posted starting on Saturday the 6th of Nov. the albums poll two weeks later (if not sooner).

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:11 (twenty years ago)

very looking forward to it, i'll get some comments to you by then promise

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:11 (twenty years ago)

*annoyed grunt*

Can I add one album to the end of my ballot??

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:15 (twenty years ago)

what a wait!

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:29 (twenty years ago)

I will tell cookie, that he still has time, to vote.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:29 (twenty years ago)

Remember! Nov 6 is the day the singles will start getting listed...

Rance Mulliniks (Gear!), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 05:37 (twenty years ago)

the albums will follow shortly thereafter....

Lloyd Moseby (Gear!), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 05:40 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe we beat you guys in 1987.

Alan Trammell (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:16 (twenty years ago)

How's the Hall of Fame treating you? Oh that's right. HAVEN'T QUITE MADE IT YET, AL!

Garth Iorg (Gear!), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 08:26 (twenty years ago)


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