Insane Clown Posse Fans. No, they really do exist, BITCH. My question is.....WHY, JUGGALOS!?

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I find Ronald McDonald quite terrifyingly sinister.

OK, I'm off home, now.

All males who like ICP must, by law, have an almost-grown mustache. That kind where it's just starting but you've never shaved before so you just pretend it's not there.

Also:

Prove to me this isn't the same guy...

Yes. Both _Ringmaster_ and _Riddlebox_ are much, much better. _The Great Milenko_ is okay and then after that they go right back to stupid blahness. (Search also the "Tunnel Of Love" EP.)

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Insane Clown Posse
Carnival of Carnage
Rating ***
1992
Review
by Stephen Thomas Erlewine
The Insane Clown Posse introduced themselves to the world (well, at least Detroit) with their debut album, Carnival of Carnage. It pretty much spelled out their ludicrous sex'n'drugs'n'crime'n'murder'n'Faygo'n'racism manifesto in no uncertain terms, since subtlety was never part of their agenda. All ICP wants to do is rock the house as if they were a third-rate Beastie Boys supported by a cut-rate Faith No More, all tempered with the sensibility that made GWAR cult heroes -- only with, you know, more sexism and jokes that are supposed to be street, but wind up sounding racist. So, Carnival of Carnage delivers exactly what it promises. If you're down with the ICP -- if you're a juggalo (funny how close that is to "jigaboo," isn't it?) -- you'll find that this album got them off on the right track. If you're not with them, this will certainly give you reasons to hate them.

Strange how this still doesn't make me want to buy any more ICP.

From _Ringmaster_: "Murder Go Round", "Who Are You", "The Dead One", "My Fun House", "The Loons", "Wagon Wagon", "One For The Maggots", "Mr Johnson's Head"

From _Riddlebox_: "The Show Must Go On", "My Toybox", "12", "The Killing Fields", "The Joker's Wild", "I'm Coming Home", "Cemetery Girl", "Three Rings"

ICP had a great track early in their career called "Southwest Ghetto Zone." Generic slanging and banging lyrics about SW Detroit, but the beat sampled the synth line from "Do ya think I'm Sexy" and ripped.

Best lyric: I've got my nine in my gut and its starting to hurt/where can you keep a gat wearing Skidz and a t-shirt."

I think this is when the whole "Wicked Clownz" schtick was in its infancy.

names, plz!

So...does all of Roth's post-VH work give you all that 'not-so-fresh' feeling?

Yup.

(He liked Deadsy a lot, too.)

That's it.

Mac

I wonder: has that poster who revived the thread started shaving his half-grown 'stache yet?

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This is me flying at my computer! I have a big crustache! What if I'm listening to ICP on my Sonys? Am I Colombiaggalo?

AM I NOW?

This is like a koan; if you meditate upon its meaning, the universe will offer up secrets.

Say it with me.

gawd, yer a friggin knucklehead.

res ipsa loquitur.

Don't make me start that thread.

I have a new catchphrase.

The guy is even censoring his own fucks!

http://www.paoracle.com/?archive=92

read over it and then let me know what you think about not taking any talent. I mean, I don't want to compare there music to the bible or anything, but a good analogy is the way Jesus used parables to talk to people. He used these stories to teach, but if people didn't understand the stories then they were just good stories. However, those that understood them and the deeper meaning to the stories, they got a lot more out of it than the average joe. Some people listen to the music and understand, others don't, just like our homie Jesus.... he was smart, and the reason he taught in that manner was so that people who didn't understand, wouldn't be punished. Now that is not why the clowns use their music this way, they are trying to reach a group of troubled youth by the harsh lyrics. They know that they have a righteous message and that is why they don't care what people have to say most of the time... that is why I don't. I know what the music is all about, and if you took the time, maybe you might dig it too... if it ain't your cup of tea, then hey, don't buy it.

Sorry for such a long post.

Mac

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Why don't you just listen to Evanescence or POD or Creed then, you fucking twat?

It is the act of a very immature person and one that obviously doesn't have any real message here in your simplistic attemt at a post here.

Oh, and uh, Evanescence is good, I listen to her, but I think POD is very stale to me... when did I ever say that I listened to ICP either?

I see your attemt at funny and raise you one punch line.

The album's last story is again about love lost, a man whose wife dies spends his time in remorse firing projectiles into the sky in an effort to kill the angels for taking away his wife. Eventually he does hit his wife, to bring her down from the heavens and ask her why she left him. Very, very disturbing. Of course, the dead angel doesn't give him any answers.

this sounds like it should be a nick cave song.

The ghettos of America are breeding grounds
For the criminal minded
As for years they have killed one another of
And America has enjoyed its creation
But now these ghetto-minded criminals
Have crossed the line into your neighborhood
And will soon give you a taste of the hell
That they have lived for so long
So pops, this time its your son gets shot
Deal with your own creation
Well, I've been to the storm house and then some
Payed me dues but I'm still a street hoodlum
Dropped out of school cuz I couldn't find my locker
Stubbles on my chin, I got hair like Chewbacca
Might see me sleeping on the street
Don't look for a job cuz there's no jobs looking for me
Then it all went to my head
Next, forty-nine motherfuckers dead
Tell the pigs I did it
Place spot at your back
And beat you in the head with it
And keep your bitch in place
Or I'm a send her ass home with a foot print on her face
Uh, I'm hating sluts
Shoot them in the face, steb back and itch my nuts
'Less I'm in the sac
Cuz I fuck so hard it'll break they back
All the pressure's packed into one nut
I was waiting on a bus and my head blew up
And the sight'll make ya sick
Violent J, motherfucker, psychopathic

Psychopathic

Thought you know bitch
The ICP is made up of psychotic
Demented psycho clumsy motherfuckers
And we'll put a hook on your bumb leg
Like it ain't nobody's business

So I'm standing by the train tracks
Then you see me running but naked with a battle axe
I'm swinging and slicing and chopping and cutting and..
Aah, until I'm nothing
Seems like I always get beat down
Like the hawk turned to the wicked clown
Tail turned out to the ghetto cuz
Southwest Detriot is comended one's home
So you might see me at a festival
Cussin', rude, and scratching my testicles
With a cold two-liter in hand
Rapping to the bitch at the french fry stand
Take it to the Patent Park
Then I'll make a sexist remark
Cuz they're all eventually bitching
Serve me fucking take your ass to the kitchen
Police don't like me it's obvious
Just don't look in the trunk
Or the sight'll make you sick
Violent J, motherfucker, psychopathic

[theme from "Halloween"]

Yeah, I've always been a psycho
Psycho-psycho-sick-psycho-sick-psycho-psycho
I'll throw rocks at stray dogs
Build crackhouses out of Lincoln logs
I cut class, said I was a faker
You was in school, I was home watching Green Acres
Now I'm all up in your face
You can barely hear the rap with all that bass
I'm running with a southwest street gang
And I never let my southwest meat hang
Cuz you know what ICP's all about
Take a brick off the street
And bust you in the mouth
Find the girl's daddy's rich
And his sweet little angel's my sewer freak bitch
But I filled the turkey up with the stuffing
Like Billy Bill say, "a bitch ain't nothing"
Grab her by the arm and break
Grab her by the life and take it
And, ya know, the sight'll make ya sick
Violent J, motherfucker, psychopathic

Psychopathic

(*Custos Anally Impales 'crawler' with a Titan IV Missile ICBM and shoots it into high orbit.*)

http://rydarecords.bravehost.com/myPictures/NAJ.JPG

Strangely, my mother's ex-boyfriend found them halfway defensible. He should've been smart enough to know better.

http://whatisajuggalo.com/

Come on, these clowns are ingenious, obviously.

But the facts remain: INSANE CLOWN POSSE ARE RIDICULOUS, MAKE BAD MUSIC AND ESPOUSE FLAGRANT, INDEFENSIBLE, UNFUNNY IDIOCY AT EVERY TURN!

stage one is the begining it is when you first become a juggalo. you don't know what the fuck is goin on and this is all new light to you. step two is when you finally realize what the hell you are now and what family is to you. you start collecting cds and merchandise. stage three a TRUE juggalo. you now go to shows and go to instores and everything to do with Psychopathic Records. then you actually know what the hell is goin on and now it is coming through to you for what you are and why you converted to being a juggalo.

Sounds a bit like Scientology....only a lot dumber.

But, you know, in the defense of ICP, it's not like you guys are forced to listen to them. It's a bunch of hatred for a band that's music is/was never on the radio or MTV. They're not a threat to anyone or anything. They're a nonentity in our world, and thus, the absolute easiest targets.

Unless you work at a club and have to scrub Faygo off the fucking wall.

~C

"ass blood related"

That's kind of awesome, right?

Ow. My vagina.

Surely you have won this epic battle of words.

She said she would get their videos not played and get them taken out of magazines, but they already arent there.

Fair does me head in, that does.

truly, this is a grand indictment to all whom may paruse the ILMmassive...bow yr heads and pray that this may pass...

What the fuck is your probablem with the Insane Clown Posse! I'm one of those ninjas thats been down with the clown since back in the day. I remember when Carnival of Carnage was brand new. I've spent my life chillin' with my hommies and smoking blunts. Almost half my life is over and the I.C.P. was and still is the only thing I have to relate to, so if you hate them, you hate my life.

Dude. It's just a band, fercrissakes! If you are treating two Faygo drinking clowns* as a way of life or a religious institution, you might need to lighten up.

* = an observation, not a value judgement.

I better get moving- I could die any day now.

i don't know what to make of this statement...
i guess i 'hate' you? not really, but i REALLY dislike ICP...
argh.

God, that sounds like a depressing Adrian Tomine comic waiting to happen.

"They are tottaly different in both appearences, style of music and number of group members."

How can anyone say that Interpol are ripping off Joy Division? They wear totally different clothes!

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"If you hate them, you hate my life"

Guess who's coming to your big town?
Jugglin jesters, kick-it clown
Circus sound, painted frown
Carnival of carnage creeping round
I'm Violent J and I'm sick
They try to run me down
But you know I'm too slick
And I slip and slide like a slinky
Slip and slide with my twinkie
Welcome to my world
As it winds and it twists
I'm a kick a funky little rhyme that you missed
Boo loo chewy wewwy doo boo
And you'd be fucked up if that was really voodoo
Come see the one at the show of your life
See me breathe fire and swallow a knife, right
I ain't swallowing nothing, Jack
But I can juggalo like you never thought you'd ever know
And we packin that funk
With a snap and a clap and a jump jump
So chicky chicky freak if ya wanna be down
Step on up
And kiss the clown
And kiss the clown
Kiss the clown
On up and kiss the clown
Step on up and kiss the clown
Stop the bus
Violent J comes out
Barrels to your face
And blow your fucking face off
Cause you know my mind is golden oh
Happen to catch me a Beverly show
Body fell asleep but my mind goes on
Welcome to the world of juggla's dome
First day I enrolled at the high school
Butt-naked with a axe
Wow, he's so cool
Stand up and say your name, tell us about yourself
My name's 2 Dope and I cut necks all to hell
Dylan, Dylan, I'm trying to find Dylan
I'm finna cut his throat with a carny carny killin
Rich boy never seen a ghetto jokero
Slap you in the head with a sledgehammo
Sorry Dylan didn't mean to knock ya
Then I stuffed his dead body in my locker
To the next class don't wanna be late
Finna ask Brenda on a little date
I heard this bitch likes to fight in clubs
Took her to a mud match threw a pair of gloves
Wants to get her ass beat by a fat dyke
And left the muddy ass bitch there for the night
Woke her in the morning, threw her in the trunk
Threw her in the trunk, cause the dumb bitch stunk
How you doing Brenda?
Mind if I bend ya?
Over rover, do me like Gumby
I'm sure you'd like that, you little skank
And when I finished
I stuffed her fucking head in the fish tank
Awww that's a beautiful aquarium
Yeah, you wanna see it
Hey come here bitch
Oh God it's lovely
Yeah, yeah, yeah have a closer look
Die bitch what's up?
What are you a lung fish?
What's up aqua man?
Die bitch die
That's right, bitch
Back to the school
Fat bitch in the locker
Couldn't fit her booty in
So I cut her booty off
Sometimes I feel like I'm already in hell
Throwing up children on Del Ray smell
Fuck those fucking fucks, uh
Rich fucks, man, fuck those fucks
Beverly Hills is Beverly Kills
I'm gonna bring ghetto carnival thrills
Where's that other little rich little fag
Looking for Brandon cause we can't stand him
I know my boys make the bass go boom
But shhh, you can hear jacking off in the boys room
Aww, aww, Dylan
Aww I want your anus
Aww, you're so hot
Kicked in the stall
Then I kicked in his jaw
Kicked him in face
And I kicked in his balls
Punk tried to run but he couldn't try to wobble
Bust him in the head with an empty Faygo bottle
Took him to the staircase
Jumped on his face
Road him down the bumpy chase
Can I hear him breathe one last note
Stuffed his back down his throat
Back to the locker
Boy oh, boy oh
Back to the locker
Stuff the fucker!
Back to the locker
Boy oh, boy oh
Back to the locker
Fuckin stuff that fucker!
Walking down the hall and I'm feeling like the shit
Cause all that's left is one skank ass bitch
Kelly, Kelly, your neden's kinda smelly
Funk down your legs, and up to your belly
But I'm with Del Ray
So funk don't fade me
Let me hit it man
You're finna kick the can (Sugar)
Come on, bitch, man
You're getting ready to die anyway
Bitch, calm down
Let me get a little poontang
You know what I'm saying
Let me get a little trip, bitch
You finna die
Okay, cause I'm not a raper
But you still make morning paper
Kelly found dead in her bathroom
Naww, Kelly found dead in her dad's room
No, Kelly found dead in her backyard
Cause Kelly choked on a joker's card
Smashed up bodies chilling in my locker
Kelly wouldn't fit
Chop, chop, chop, chop her
Oh no, principal know what I'm about
Cause one of Dylan's sideburns was sticking out
Oh shit, they chase me
Cause they found the bodies
Now I run my ass off
Yeah they're gettin mad
You can hear them cuss
Didn't look both ways, and got hit by bus
Crunched up under
Tangled in the wheels
Spit me out the muffler
You know how that feels
Lost both my legs so I'm running on my hands
Then I seen Prince so I clap cause I'm a big fan
And straight busted my face on the street
And here come the police....

Who's the motherfuckin' chicken now?

Won't somebody please think of the bithcis?

ugly-looking but extremely functional, which is the point of most web sites.

If u don't like it u can fuck off, motha fucker

Interesting choice of words considering that ICP make some of the whitest music on Earth.

=(

"Interesting choice of words considering that ICP make some of the whitest music on Earth."

why, yes! yes, they do!

Kicked in the stall
Then I kicked in his jaw
Kicked him in face
And I kicked in his balls""

I hate it when bands just say that they kicked someone without telling me where they kicked them, and how many times that kicking happened.

"Just Anotha Crazy Click", Three 6 Mafia's collaboration with ICP on "When The Smoke Clears", is possibly the worst song in Three 6 Mafia's entire catalog.

"I call myself a Juggalo, And i scream it everwhere that i go...JUGGALO"
MCL TO ALL WHO REPRESENT, And to all the Biggot who think they are down, well fuck that, you aint nuthin but bitches who are suckin on Feminems dick right now.
SHANGRI-LA MACKDAGGER

-- js (roc...), May 5th, 2006.

i wouldn't doubt it!

icp are a rap group that have been around since the begining of rap back before they were insane clown posse they were inner city posse and were producing back in tha day on tape and selling it out of thier cars. they stuck with it because they knew they would reach the top of the underground which they achived with dog beats. then it moved to shaggy and violent j as a duo and they have come to the forefront of "dark rap" brining twisted abk and blaze witht them. so actualy do sum research before you dissmis them as crap!!!

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my, that's THE most intellectual thing an ICP fan's has EVER said!

and pat, slipknot are NOT gawds of anything...sorry.
k.

And as for the other guy? Remember the Treacherous Three -- Kool Moe Dee, Treacherous Three Clown Guy, and Treacherous Three Guy Who Is Neither Kool Moe Dee Nor a Clown? Well, the second one of those guys split from the group to form the ICP. Kool Moe Dee wanted to come along, but Kool Herc thought their names were too similar, and people would be confused (even if they both dressed as clowns).

I don't know what happened to the third Treacherous Three guy, but I bet he used a shorter name after the Treacherous Three broke up.

RAPHISTORY4LYFE YO

OK, this is genius.

I say, Chauncy, we've discovered the origins of rapping music! You see, it began with two jesters and ended with beating animals! Luckily, it died out before it could ever spread past Romulus.

slipknot have been put up there with the gods of metal music

Whahahahaha!!

icp are a rap group that have been around since the begining of rap

whom are you addressing, kind sir?

i'm not of the gay-ilk but i find yr comment to be vague and unfocussed.

while we're on the subject of questionable parenting, a guy came into the store with his kid, probably about 14.

kid wants an icp cd (yes, there are folks who listen to icp with a sense of humor, but that is one characteristic distinctly lacking from most of the younger fans--they take it seriously), and the father says, if i buy that for you, your little girlfriend has to show me her pussy.

he didn't even say it in a particularly hushed tone, so i just gagged and hoped it was some kind of metaphor for...i don't know, but something, please. i mean, 'cause he bought the disc.

http://www.nerve.com/NerveBlog/Images/Entry/4535_thong.jpg

URITE, PAT

...I loved Slipknot before I heard them...I thought the idea of some industrial Pig-Bag tribal percussion group meets thrash sounded awesome! it was so boring in practice though.

that story gypsy mothra told is the most disturbing thing I've read in a while. is that, like, an expression? what on earth?

ICP
Posted by mach5potato on Friday, September 17 2004

Ever wish you were a wicked clown? Ever wish you were a white guy who raps? Ever wish you were a fat, white guy, wicked clown who raps? Me either. Apparently these jackasses never got the memo. I first heard them years ago and thought the fad would pass. How long could two assholes with no talent what-so-ever possibly last? Boy did I underestimate the stupidity of today’s youth. You ‘Juggalos’ do realize your idols did nothing more than steal KISS’ gimmick, right? We’ve put up with your retarded lyrics and fans for far too long, time for sweet retribution!

Method of Execution:
This one is tricky. How do you kill someone that raps about fucking dead fat bitches? Well I think the best thing is to let them live. Yes, let them live long enough for their legions of fans to sprout pubic hair and realize just how terrible their ‘music’ is. I expect the rage of years of being subjected to their music will build up inside them and riots will ensue. Did someone order two wicked clowns well-done hanging from a lamppost? Your order is ready.

Are you a recovering Juggalo? Come tell your sorry tale in the forums.

In 200 years there will be more Juggalos than Jews, you wait and see. They'll be like Mormons, and their incomprehensible Gospel will win converts among the young and dispossessed.
-- js (roc...), May 4th, 2006.

Look, I empathize with taking solace in the sense of community forged by collective fandom of a band. I feel a similar affinity with fans of my particular favorite artists.
But the facts remain: INSANE CLOWN POSSE ARE RIDICULOUS, MAKE BAD MUSIC AND ESPOUSE FLAGRANT, INDEFENSIBLE, UNFUNNY IDIOCY AT EVERY TURN!

stage one is the begining it is when you first become a juggalo. you don't know what the fuck is goin on and this is all new light to you. step two is when you finally realize what the hell you are now and what family is to you. you start collecting cds and merchandise. stage three a TRUE juggalo. you now go to shows and go to instores and everything to do with Psychopathic Records. then you actually know what the hell is goin on and now it is coming through to you for what you are and why you converted to being a juggalo.

Sounds a bit like Scientology....only a lot dumber.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), September 13th, 2005.

Juggalo Z lyrics = brill

I wish I was a white guy who raps.

peace out and suck-a-dick its good for ya

For several nights last month, a group of thugs with black hooded sweat shirts pulled tight over their heads, including at least one in "angry" clown makeup, terrorized visitors to Pierce County's Fort Steilacoom Park, police say.

The group cried "woo, woo, Juggalo" as they assaulted park visitors with a machete and fists. They stole cellphones, cash and wallets and even threatened to cut their victims' heads off, according to court documents.

So far, two men and a woman have been charged with robbery and assault for their alleged roles in the string of attacks, said Pierce County deputy prosecutor Phil Sorensen. Prosecutors say the suspects claim to be "Juggalos," a subculture that has developed among the fan base of the rap/metal group Insane Clown Posse.

"The violence was gratuitous," said Lakewood police Lt. Dave Guttu. "They [victims] had already given up their stuff and were assaulted anyway."

Two victims suffered broken jaws in the attacks that occurred the nights of June 18-20 and early in the morning of June 21. Another was kicked in the head, and a woman said her attackers demanded that she take off her pants, according to prosecutors.

All of the victims were at the park after it closed, police said.

Guttu said eight to 10 more people are being sought for their alleged roles in the attacks, in which 23 people were injured.
Information

More about the Insane Clown Posse and the band's followers: insaneclownposse.com

According to prosecutors, one of the men charged in the attacks claimed that Juggalo groups are growing in Pierce County — going by the names "Hatchet Riders," "Juggalo Empire" and "Northwest Juggalo Posse."

"The people in the Juggalo group say they're seeing violence on the rise among the Juggalo group," Guttu said.

Anthony Pierce, 29, Crystal Hilliard, 19, and Daniel Barnum, 21, are accused of participating in the park assaults. But, Guttu says, violence is atypical among Juggalos in Lakewood, where the park is located.

Juggalos and Juggalettes — as female fans of Insane Clown Posse are called — are known to dress in black and wear black and white clownlike face paint. According to a statement on the Web site whatisajuggalo.com, the subculture preaches racial tolerance and belief in a religion.

Spokespeople for Insane Clown Posse's record label, Psychopathic Records, didn't return calls for comment Tuesday. The band is scheduled to perform this weekend in the annual "Gathering of Juggalos," a large outdoor concert near Columbus, Ohio.

Victims of the Fort Steilacoom violence reported that one woman was wearing black clownlike eye makeup and other attackers were dressed in black hoodies, Guttu said. One person carried a machete. The Insane Clown Posse is often identified by the symbol of a laughing clown carrying a meat cleaver or hatchet.

Sorensen, the deputy prosecutor, said other people claiming to be Juggalos have been charged in violent crimes.

Guttu said the park, which closes at 9 p.m., had become a popular hangout for Juggalos to drink and smoke marijuana. He advises park visitors to visit the park only when it is open.

So when does Dan change his ILX nickname to "woo, woo, Juggalo"

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I just want to add that im a high school drop out and have no hopefull future. this is due to my icp devotion. i also jerkoff a lot. and suck a lot of cock, you shit like that.
peace out and suck-a-dick its good for ya

-- crazy juggalo again (butterfly4...), June 1st, 2006.

wow.
just wow.
i got nothing more...

juggallos all eventually fall out of love with it...unless they die.
then, they're just dead idiots.

1) So far as ICP goes with being stupid rappers with no talent....
If ICP is stupid, then what are the following?

A. Three Six Mafia
B. Eminem
C. 50 cent
D. Lil' John
E. Bubba Sparxxx
F. Kanye West (I hope I spelled that right)

Does anyone honestly think that they have even a little more talent than ICP? Now seriously, it doesnt take talent to "rap" these days. Throw together some rhyming words and profanity, the ability to talk unbearably fast, and a crowd that'll listen.
ICP and others under Psychopathic Records meet the standards.
Me personally? I like ICP. But thats me. I understand perfectly why people dont like listening to Insane Clown Posse. But I dont want to hear anyone dissing them talking about how "great" other rappers straight from the "hood" are. Because if that happens I will laugh until I asphyxiate and die. (Oh, look kiddies, a big word.) Anyways, another thing is do you know how off topic you people get? My God...it's almost like half the people who post on this thread have an acute case of Attention Deficit Disorder.
Finally, I honestly dont believe that this thread is TWO YEARS OLD AND STILL GOING STRONG! HAHA! Wow. That's a miracle. Then again, it's people like me who contribute and keep it going. Alright. I put in my 2 cents on this entire situation.
Peace.

Society shal never learn. This is why teachers need to be paid more.

Thank God elections arent too far off.

=D

THAT'S SMART

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A. Three Six Mafia
B. Eminem
C. 50 cent
D. Lil' John
E. Bubba Sparxxx
F. Kanye West (I hope I spelled that right)

A. OSCAR winners!
B. Multi-platium selling phenomenon.
C. Survivor of gun violence.
D. Made Dave Chappelle famous!
E. Regional Manager at Wendy's.
F. Astute political observer (and snappy dresser!).

Yes. Emphatically. (Well, not sure about Bubba Sparxxx)

Now, note the fact that it started out with a post that included the word "Cow-worker" in it.

Amazing how no one ever noticed it before.

Now seriously, it doesnt take talent to "rap" these days. Throw together some rhyming words and profanity, the ability to talk unbearably fast, and a crowd that'll listen.

So much for not sounding stupid trying to defend ICP.

Because if that happens I will laugh until I asphyxiate and die. (Oh, look kiddies, a big word.)

We've seen it before.

Finally, I honestly dont believe that this thread is TWO YEARS OLD AND STILL GOING STRONG! HAHA! Wow. That's a miracle. Then again, it's people like me who contribute and keep it going.

We're still posting on threads a hell of a lot older than this one.

Anyways, another thing is do you know how off topic you people get? My God...it's almost like half the people who post on this thread have an acute case of Attention Deficit Disorder.

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

sonned!

So much for not sounding stupid trying to defend ICP.

Who said I was defending? I was just putting in my 2 cents.

the juggalos and juggalettes are about christianity and we are agfaisnt racism bigotry and we certainly are not sexist thats dumb where on earth did you hear that about us we are a fan group bigger than any other fan group the only reason people diss them is because they dont have as many fans or as many sold albums as we do hahahaha why dose eminem diss us because he couldnt sell his own stuff without dre could he nope we had to go out into the world and promote our shit by our sevles 24-7 we had to go to kinkos and we had to make tons of flyers then we went through milloins of fuckin dollars on fuckin shit to print could eminem do that nope. eminem wasmt even started till we were at our forth fuckin cd haha you know why we hatre eminem so much because he put our name on a fuckin flyer befor even asking us trying to getjyuggalos to come to his shows and tricking thm into doing it thats why we hate him so much he had to have dres help to even get the shit out there we were way the hell befor eminem was even a nuts stain in his mamas pants so i hope you will learn a little bit from me wasting my day off of fuckin work just to give you this little presentation and i hope you will think befor you typebullshit down thank you and have a wonderful day

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ICP fans aren't worried about such trifling aspects of communications like punctuation/spelling/grammar in general or really even getting what they would like to say across in a way that would not require an Offical ICP Licensed Decoder Ring (it turns the "woot"s into "may Jesus and his teachings be with you!").
and it also turns all profantiy and mentions of Faygo into other forms of Christian worship.

He spent all day on that?

I think I found your offending post:
I knew there was something about the Juggalos that was a little anti somethi ng or other and it was only a matter of time before someone got really hurt.

i always thought their fans well pretty well known as violent and homophobic/racist/sexist...

-- RoxyMuzak© (emilysu...), February 5th, 2006 9:35 AM. (roxymuzak) (link)

First of all, let me tell you that i found this thread on a Google search for "icp without make-up".

It would appear you are harbingers of your own doom

icp are a rap group that have been around since the begining of rap

It takes more talent than you think to listen to their music.

Because if that happens I will laugh until I asphyxiate and die

I used to be a whimpy little kid that used not to stand up for himself but now that i am a juggalo ICP in there lyrics has taught me how to do it.

if i buy that for you, your little girlfriend has to show me her pussy

Alledgedly, police arrested these nine musicians, members of the bands Insane Clown Posse, Myzery, and Psycho Realm following a fight at the Greenfield Waffle House.

I'm a Juggalette...

I do know how to use punctuation and proper grammar...

Uhm...

Seriously, peoeple should stop with the "ALL JUGGALOS ARE STUPID"

:::sigh:::

Honestly, ICP fans aren't exactly racist.

We dislike bigotry, and I think the only thing we're really "Racist" against are rednecks.

But who isn't?

ha.

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WHY, JUGGALOS!?

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l32/jaddx06/jadd2.jpg

In most of the midwestern states in the U.S local law enforcement as well as state and federal law enforcement agencies consider many "packs" of Juggalos to be gang members. In Illinois, Michigan, Ohio & Wisconsin, arrestees identified as Juggalos are put into the gang database. Most juggalo sets (i.e Wicked Juggalos, Insane Juggalos) are categorized into this group.[citation needed]

http://photos.monkeysoncrack.com/gallery/4328930_DfEY6#253904208_26jm7

http://photos.monkeysoncrack.com/gallery/4328930_DfEY6#P-5-20

http://photos.monkeysoncrack.com/gallery/4328930_DfEY6#P-7-20

I want to believe.

some scary people there

Would partying with Juggalos be fun? They drink beer right? I bet partying with Juggalos is fun.

Where does the name Juggalo come from? Wikipedia's no help.

Gigolo+juggler=juggalo. Because they are the pimps of the circus, or something.

This thread doesn't read particularly well on the part of ILM. The google juggalos - googalos if you will -- come off as mostly defensive homophobic 14 year olds, which is probably who they are. But most of the people on ILM come off as totally elitist and not particularly witty in their clown hate. Dan stands above them all.

There's a few things that always get brought up in the ICP discussion that I don't really understand. 1) Their racism. 2) Their rap-metal hybrid thing.

Relating to 1 is it just because they're white? Because they have tons of songs dating back to their first album about how they hate bigots. They have a song called Rebel Flag about how much they hate the confederate flag. And 2 I don't remember them using anything resembling a guitar until way late in the game. And even then it was only sparingly. Mostly they have really weird beats that sample circus music and bugs in the case of Bugz on my Nugz.

Not to defend them, they're mostly awful. But everyone in my neighborhood was into them when I was younger so I definitely became inundated with them.

Today, while driving on US 23 in northern Michigan, I passed a minivan with his and hers juggalo decals on either side of the rear window: blue running juggalo with hatchet and pink running juggalo (with ponytail & hatchet) on either side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Chdw_kAdI

^^^ awful, but really hard to hate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Hc3gNqWzM&feature=related

did they have an entire album of summer jams or something? this is not the music I remember being subjected to by junior high juggalos

Aw, they don't seem all that insane at all!

They looked so much smaller on wrestling.

"Aw" is right. That "Homies" song was pretty lovable.

"It took me years to understand the clowns and their music"

i really sucked on this thread

juggalos are still funny tho

Haha, I just remembered a story. One time this girl I knew in college showed me a picture of her ex boyfriend from high school. It was his senior photo and he was totally decked out in clown paint. Then a few years later I was dating a girl who grew up in the same town those two were from, and she told me that once at some sort of Juggalo function his friends had to stop him from getting clown makeup TATTOOED ONTO HIS FACE!!!

Also, once, the Juggalo's girlfriend tried to blow me on the campus lawn with students everywhere. Compound this with the fact that I'd already shot down a few offers to go off somewhere and fuck.

I would still like to party with Juggalos.

And filthy dylan OTM.

Juggalos just seem by and large to be a bunch of folx who want to hang out, get naked, take drugs, and listen to music, esp ICP, not any kinda large-scale antisocial movement or whatever. Kinda like deadheadism updated for the 2000s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoONiKyDvKM

fuck buddy trying to look solid ill crack u so hard u pussy bitch fuck ICP and all that gay shit if u listen to it your not bad ass your just some fagget that thinks he's sweet shit

A couple things:

Re: racism

Part of that, at least as far as I understand it, comes from their refusal to abandon "ninja" for "nigger."

Re: rap metal

I think that was more because of their fans, who tended toward the Korn axis of '90s rock.

Re: Tattoos

I had a friend who had them sign his arm, and then got those signatures tattooed onto him, along with their joker faces. He's since had that covered over with, if I recall correctly, anti-nazi tattoos.

ninja please

The Dark Carnival is some deep shit to think about, but I very much believe in God too. Believe me I'd rather float in Heaven than drive a wagon after I die, but looking at the life I lead right now, I doubt I’ll be able to. I try to be religious or whatever but I'm just shitty right now. When I get older I'll probably try to get my shit straight. ICP is about bitches, Faygo, Juggalos, and dumb shit. Do I feel like the Noah of today? Naa, I feel more like Noah is the Violent J of yesterday. If I was Noah, I would have changed my name to Juggaloah and built a big ass surf board and surfed my ass all over the planet. Fuck collecting' Lamas and shit.

Fuck collecting' Lamas and shit.

Thank you for posting this!

It's all for you

I really appreciate the work you've done here.

did they have an entire album of summer jams or something?

I can't stop laughing at this.

Whenever I see this thread peek her head out I know I'm in for something awesome.

+1 for hoos

http://i28.tinypic.com/j6spcw.jpg

"WHOA, YOU CAN EMBED YOUTUBE VIDEOS ON ILX NOW? .........oh wait."

http://www.sfgate.com/cityexposed/ (might only work for a week)

hour-long documentary anyone?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2221936056512486735

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkC7dcxZ5_Q&feature=player_embedded

Juggalo killers on Law and Order a couple of days ago.

I saw somebody wearing these pants a the mall the other day. Central Maryland isn't exactly a Juggalo hotbed, even at the malls, so I was pretty excited. The pants were so shiny and new - the hatchet men gleamed in the sun - I feel like maybe it was the guy's first day wearing them. His debut appearance in his $95 trousers.

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0/8e/2/AAAACzB-B2gAAAAAAI4hhA.png?v=1259465505000

what an aggressive thread title

Yeah, there are so many better Juggalo thread titles.

Is there a better nickname for a band's fan than 'Juggalo?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs
discussed a dozen other places but needs to be here for posterity
jack handey is shaggy 2 dope and i claim my fifty dollars

FUCKING MAGNETS... HOW DO THEY WORK?

fire, water, air and dirt / fukkin magnets / how do they work?

In 2004, former Albuquerque Mayor Marty Chavez banned Insane Clown Posse from performing again in Albuquerque after a riot took place outside of their show.

http://www.koat.com/news/24787453/detail.html

haven't read it yet, but too good to overlook: village voice's feature story on the big icp annual gathering (2010 edition).

theZigZagJuggalo
Aug. 31, 2010 11:52am MST

any of the adults that look down on loz and lettez for what we like need to relize that they are just doin the same thing to us that happen to people in the 50's and 60's for listening to ROCK music things like FLeetwood Mac

village voice article is pretty great. breaking no new ground, but thorough, well-written, entertaining.

Drug Bridge Over Troubled Waters

As I think someone said upthread, the more I read about ICP, the more respect I have for them. This is a really interesting interview:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/violent-j-of-insane-clown-posse,45406/

They seem like two perfectly reasonable businessmen.

J often gives great interviews

(*Custos Anally Impales 'crawler' with a Titan IV Missile ICBM and shoots it into high orbit.*)

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:14 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark

A "cult-like gang":

CLINTON — A man accused of chopping his mother-in-law to death with a hatchet is a member of the Insane Clown Posse gang, an expert testified Monday.

As Robert Edward Fritts’ murder trial entered its second week, prosecutors introduced evidence linking him to ardent followers of the horror-themed, ultra-violent hip-hop band who have embarked on crime sprees.

Insane Clown Posse gang members live on the edge of society and adhere to an “almost cult-like religion,” said Detective Sgt. Tom Walker, supervisor of the Knox County Sheriff’s Office’s gang investigation unit.

“I believe he (Fritts) is a member of the (Insane Clown Posse) gang,’’ Walker told the nine-woman, three-man Anderson County jury.

Evidence introduced Monday revealed Fritts’ fascination with both the band and hatchets. ...

fuckin hatchets how do they work?

Times review/interview on the front page of the arts section yesterday

Read that as 'Robert Edward Fripp'

have ICP embarked on many crime sprees or is that just pisspoor writing?

Yeah, bad writing. I assume it means "followers' have embarked on violent crime sprees. But it makes it sound like ICP are out robbing banks and shooting shit up.

that is some fucking absolutely embarrassing shit

but whiney these fans live on the edge of society

"the young man likely relied on his heavy military training, having been a longtime member of the Kiss Army"

hahaha

robble robble

but whiney these fans live on the edge of society

Technically, "my step-mom's basement" probably qualifies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gKE67L97SA

oh my god
i watched so much of that

go to 25:20 for an lol at all the band names

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/nov/01/juggalos-classified-as-gang-fbi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRAQyiqx-M

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/309262_424487530950923_111207468_n.jpg

RIP

Is that a Faygo bottle holder there on the left? That's handy!

http://juggalosonokcupid.tumblr.com/

aw i feel bad that juggalos are some kind of joke :(((

and i like that juggalobook exists

https://twitter.com/kiala/status/340534183606759424/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLnSCShCMAAoq7-.jpg:large

Why has there never been a juggalo movie? like a juggalo superhero or crime fighter? or at least bad guys in a batman movie

the Joker dude

would like to hear The Juggalo Aunts, kinda Velvet Crush-like horrorcore vibes

Why has there never been a juggalo movie? like a juggalo superhero or crime fighter? or at least bad guys in a batman movie

there have been at least two

ICP are playing in Oakland this summer. I almost want to go.

my friend's facebook comment:
"I thought I passed a group of Juggalos this morning on my way to work. Which was weird enough. Turns out it was actually Insane Clown Posse."

http://gothamist.com/2013/06/08/photos_insane_clown_posse_are_hangi.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/insane-clown-posse-icp-lawsuit-andrea-pellegrini_n_3943229.html

one of the headlines of the year, surely
http://www.freep.com/article/20140723/NEWS05/307230032/

http://i.imgur.com/Y1vnoVr.gifKid Rock subpoenaed to produce glass sex toy in Insane Clown Posse lawsuithttp://i.imgur.com/Y1vnoVr.gif

I guess the Gathering is going on right now.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-tattoo-beating-20140805,0,5506278.story

Two Hebron residents were charged Monday with attempted murder and assault for beating a man, attempting to carve a tattoo from his arm, and setting him on fire, police said. The victim remains in critical condition at a burn center in Baltimore, the Wicomico County Sheriff's Office said.

The incident occurred Monday just after 1 a.m. on the 7200 block of Rockawalkin Rd. in Hebron, police said. Officials say Paul Martin Hurst, 33, of Hebron and Cary Lee Edwards, 35, of Williamsburg, Va. began beating Zachary Swanson, 31, after an argument in the Hebron residence the three men share.

The suspects then tried to forcibly remove a tattoo from Swanson's arm, police said. After failing to remove the tattoo, the suspects set fire to the victim's arm, police said. The victim was left on the ground for several hours and suffered severe burns, police said, before he was driven to the Peninsula Regional Medical Center and subsequently flown to a burn center in Batlimore.

Both suspects have been charged with first and second degree attempted murder, first and second degree assault, reckless endangerment and a deadly weapon charge.

Officials say there is a strong possibility the suspects and the victim are connected with the Juggalos, a group of fans of the Detroit hip-hop duo Insane Clown Posse. Police said the victim's tattoo was "consistent" with the fan group, which the FBI has classified as a gang.

people are starting to become more charitable to juggalos, right? there is a strong undercurrent of classism in most writing about them that I think is pretty mean spirited

... and well deserved.

some people just ain't down with the clown

https://m.facebook.com/NationalTakeAJuggaloToRedLobsterDay?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&_rdr

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/676971916/faygo-huntin-made-simple-with-this-new-app

http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/profiles/maw.jpg
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29100000/insane-clown-posse-insane-clown-posse-29168492-500-332.jpg

Both got guys named "Dope" too. Just saying.

Kenny Dope Gonzalez and ... Little Louie Vega? When did he use the name "Dope?"

just watched Buffalo Juggalos and EVERYBODY should stop what they're doing and see it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qof7oEfiU1c
It's a half an hour and on MUBI and they offer a free trial so go see it now.
https://mubi.com/films/buffalo-juggalos
Whiney G, I'm talking to you here.

It's less an exposé and more of an ICP thesis statement: a beautifully paced, wordless (and, thank god, without music) series of short video portraits of clown-faced juggalos in situ, self-medicating with sex, violence, drugs and family. The visuals owe something to Avedon and Arbus but the ethos is an insider perspective of post-dada nihilism that regularly lights on an unironically detached direct gaze. The guiding spirits are the impassible sadness of hopelessness, the absurdity of modern displacement (the alpaca scene elicited genuine and surprise laughter), the tenderness of shared experience and the haunted house posturing of threat without menace... a briefly glimpsed felony, the breaking of a brick over an unprotesting man's head and a fervent bout of cunnilingus all are presented without impact but not without meaning. More than any other treatise I've seen on the subject, this film portrays Juggalos as profoundly disconnected, half-impotent droogs trading on self-expression to communicate, marooned in a world that is no more or less ludicrous than painting your inner Pagliacci on your face, declaring defeat before they even begin to try.

totally people should watch this if they're curious but just fwiw & as counterpoint i found it kind of a mean experiment & a mainly pretty vapid film; it alternates between indulging the most surface-level gaze at another weird american community, & drifting into the filmmaker's kinda installation-art image making, which is fine (i liked the inking scene) but feels just so limited, to me, like more obnoxiously confrontational weird americana porn that doesn't go an inch beyond what we already know or expect. agree w/ a bunch of what you wrote but to me the icp thesis statement just feels so impressed, like it has the uncritical eye of a propaganda video. maybe because it lives within that thesis statement zone it's fine, i don't know.

also alpaca scene just really bummed me out

I would watch that if you could point me to a way that doesn't require signing up for Mubi

ay mubi, I don't really think I should watch "cinema" streamed over wi-fi onto an iPad, but that's just me

“My Film is Not About Juggalos. It is a Juggalo”: Director Scott Cummings on Making Buffalo Juggalos

Couple of weeks ago I went next door from my office to get coffee at Starbucks, in the Doubletree Hotel. Parked at the curb was a white panel van with this on the dashboard and it just made my day. I like to imagine the driver heard about their new Faygo Spice Latte and had to have one.

http://i.imgur.com/vUtxYt9.jpg?2

mubi is watchable on the teevee with apple tv + ipad/phone airplay but then you need an apple tv
it's not like that in all countries, but is weirdly restrictive in america. it's the worst thing about that service.

schlump, i can see where you might've landed there; I don't feel like a half hour piece needs to be much more than be a surface-level exploration, especially when it's told from the perspective of the beholden.
no idea why the alpaca scene would've bummed you out. they looked pretty and well cared for.

thanks, forks; this was something i both didn't like & felt like an asshole for not liking, & i feel bad wading in here. i saw it in a room of people who were really responsive, & there's something kind of precious about finding it objectionable when it so clearly aligns with who it represents & what it set out to do. i think something that maybe got me was the collision of feeling so tonally indulgent - so including like the abandoned warehouse sequences - & then the formal, kinda presentative strategy of hesitating before each shot, so with the scene of two guys in bed under green light, including this ten seconds beat to separate you from what you were seeing. it felt kind of uncaring to me.

but yeah everyone still can watch this on whatever realmedia gameboy color stream mubi is offering, go for it

i think the juggalo gaze as presented here IS indulgent, self-absorbed, strategic and uncaring. i took as a feature what you took as a bug. i'm certainly not co-signing that worldview but it came through as honest and deeply felt (if philosophically flimsy) and understandably seductive. Like if your inheritance is suburban boredom and urban blight and there's no real war to fight except justifying your existence, why not play at conscientious objector and just check out in a cloud of hedonism and insouciance. Obvs that's always bottom line thinking with ICP types (and with most if not all 20th/21st century middle class youth movements) but stripped of language and the terrible terrible music, this felt like it was making a compelling, if hermetic, argument and one that i hadn't heard made by/for juggalos. i thought it was effective in presenting a serious alternate perspective that's otherwise easy to laugh off.
i hope this guy doesn't do a similar piece on gamergate i guess.

that ten second beat you're referring to was effective for me because it tested your presumptions of what two men sitting alone want, given my own prejudices and what I've seen prior. there's a bit of #notalljuggalos but it also felt like a very real display of shared intimacy, "if you prick us do we not bleed"

here's the article whiney refers to upthread
http://filmmakermagazine.com/86098-my-film-is-not-about-juggalos-it-is-a-juggalo-director-scott-cummings-on-making-buffalo-juggalos/
direct self comparisons to browning's freaks and

I’ve been surprised that many people assume everything in the film is real and I’ve taken to half-jokingly paraphrasing Francis Ford Coppola’s line about Apocalypse Now: “My film is not a documentary. My film is not about Juggalos. It is a Juggalo.” My hope is that through the film the myth of the Juggalo deepens and they become more mysterious, more other and more confrontational.

def good that this guy with an MFA is striving to make poor suburban kids on FBI watchlists "more other"

eh, i put that there in reference as explanation to your quoted article title
i dunno, watch it if you can; I thought it was pretty strong

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/07/two-juggalos-charged-attemped-murder-insane-clown-posse-tattoo

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-lesbian-queen-of-the-juggalos-is-reinventing-beauty-standards

if you think this might be safe for your work then well you know best

that looks to me like the ur text from whence all broadly articles will spring

url/headline should read The Lesbian Queen of the Juggalettes.

Also noticed that Village Voice didn't do a Gathering roundup this year. What has happened to the journalistic standards of that once-great institution?

no money to send anyone i would guess

this link from upthread has aged well

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/676971916/faygo-huntin-made-simple-with-this-new-app

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/news/a42817/clown-contouring-for-sculpted-cheeks/

big money hustlas and big money rustlas are now on amazon prime video.

america 2016: violent j of the insane clown posse is now our voice of reason.

http://time.com/4521464/insane-clown-posse-killer-clowns/

2020's Republican nominee

https://twitter.com/AeTBench/status/803995993570181120

Somehow managed to miss this. Despite a clown being elected president the Juggalos are going to march on DC in September because they once got called a gang or something? Hope there's a live stream!
http://www.juggalomarch.com/

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/518iP2ENoyL._AA300_.jpg

they'll fit right in with those clowns in Washington!!

https://apnews.com/8028e1c92c0c454caa84aa1f6f9a86e2?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLWAn8Zssg

hahahahahahahahahaha

That song would certainly liven up Matty in the Morning