Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

All of Randy Newman up to and including Good Old Boys.

If you care about Xmas kitsch, Light in the Stable or whatever it's called is her covering some nice holiday tunes (Drummer Boy, a couple I never heard before, etc) and the album cover will break yr heart.

Also, the critics did not "get" her at the time. I think they thought she was ersatz country, but her first records have help up so beautifully.

subquestion: why is lindsay buckingham so revered. is it as a guitarist? songwriter? arranger? i'm not asking because i don't think he deserves it but because i don't know.

But there must've been so many other, more obscure bands in LA etc. emulating this sound. Who was playing at the Whisky and the Troubadour while the Outlaws played the Coliseum, or whatever? I want to hear that stuff... maybe there're some compilations out there

http://southsidecallbox.com/images/hoover.jpg

I picked up that Kris Kristofferson record a few months ago and totally dig it.

I don't mean anything pejorative by the word trendy in this case. This is all good music. It's not like they started listening to electroclash or something.

If we're going to be a bit free and easy with the 70s part of the question, JEFFERSON AIRPLANE's Volunteers came out on the very cusp of the new decade (November '69) and barring the hippy rhetoric, it sounds a lot like a 70s record. SKIP SPENCE'S Oar from a bit earlier definitely does not, but then again it doesn't really sound like a record from any specific era.

Maybe try and pick up the BYRDS (Untitled), just about their last really decent record. I guess it might be a bit of a sloppy package in sum total, and it's absolutely nowhere near as good as the *great* albums, but it's still got some of my favourite Byrds moments on it, mostly courtesy of Clarence White.

Given the general thrust of this thing, you'd probably like IAN MATTHEWS' Journeys From Gospel Oak too. Covers of Gene Clark and Tim Hardin in a very West Coast style. He was originally in Fairport Convention, then Matthews Southern Comfort before doing his solo thing of which Gospel Oak is the most solid effort. Think he moved out to California round about the time of that album too.

Anyone want to recommend me any specific HOT TUNA album?

i've been meaning to figure out which Jefferson Airplane record i wanted to get next (only have a really dirty copy of Surrealistic Pillow that my mom wrote boyfriends' names in pen on).

i've had that Skip Spence album for years and never thought it was all that amazing. i don't know if it's a "oh, he's crazy, so this makes the album more amazing" type thing [i've always felt the same way about Syd], but i'll pull out my copy and listen to it again.

Try the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's first album. JaX0n, all the DJs at KXLU were totally into this stuff! That's why they're all in likeminded bands these days (aside from The Postal Service).

Personally, my interest is in the west coast stuff 1974-77, when session musicians began to rule the studio and production values got super slick, rather than the early 70s Byrds/CSNY/Grateful Dead axis. Stuff like Joni Mitchell, Buckingham-Nicks, Jackson Browne and ... Al Stewart maybe? Steely Dan? The Eagles definitely.

But it's kind of difficult to pin down the sound/genre any more definitely than that. And I'm a bit loathe to try for fear of unfairly pigeonholing certain albums.

Soft Rock Hits of the 70s - search
I found $41 on the ground today, so let's talk about Psychedelic Country!
Ricki Lee Jones c/d s/d
I luvs me some Lee Hazelwood. What else should I be listening to? (aka, the 60s & 70s country thread) (maybe a little less so...)

How about Spirit, The Family, and Kaleidescope?

However, I must voice my disagreement with the original post about the Band's Music From Big Pink sounding like the West Coast. Yes, they filmed The Last Waltz in SF, but they sound more like Virginia to Memphis, to me.

colin blunstone, one year and ennismore. ok, he's not exactly from the west coast, but his first two solo albums could've been. zombines fans consider one year his peak, but ennismore features "i don't believe in miracles," one of my fave pop songs of the era.

and i'll second don's nomination of west-coast-in-spirit rosanne cash, especially for seven year ache and its amazing title track, even if it did come out a bit later (1981) than most of the stuff being talked about here.

personally, i find him to be one of the best guitarists to walk the face of the earth, equally for his skill as his non-showiness. some of his fingerpicking work blows my mind six ways from sunday. also he is hott, writes amazing songs, and his crazy production work never fails to impress my small brane.

thomas jefferson kaye's "first grade" is this album on dunhill, about '73 i think. "american lovers" is a great song, written by becker and fagen. kaye wrote "one man band" covered by three dog night, and he does a version on this album, which is pretty obscure. xgau liked it a lot--that's where i learned about it. worth finding.

moby grape's "21 granite creek" and "truly fine citizen" are worth tracking down on LP; "truly fine" is not avail. on cd; "21" is only avail. on one of those lousy matthew katz san fran sound reissues. they're both somewhat underrated examples of this sound.

I found this book absolutely fascinating. Hoskyns sets himself up as something of an outsider to it all (no surprise that) but accumulated enough first-hand info that it reads in many places almost as an oral history. I was gripped by it, but my tastes don't sync well with most ILMers, so YMMV.

Bizarre but true, this is Linda Perhacs's story. And it's a story that keeps getting better. She's writing again and finding "floods of new material" coming forth. There's a new album to come later this year, 35 years after her first, Parallelograms, and among the contributors will be Devendra Banhart, one of the much-celebrated young alternative folkies who claim Perhacs as inspiration and have been singing her praises in interviews for several years.

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How's that American Flyer LP, anyone?

I don't know if this is the thread where I expressed by lack of enthusiasm for I Wish I Could Remember My Name, but I've come around a bit. I listened to it on a car trip recently, and it was a great, not-too-mellow antidote to driving boredom.

'Garcia' - Jerry Garcia

i really couldn't hang with the american flyer deal (there's a 2fer cd, right?) i returned it, waaaaaaaaaaay to MOR, and not in the good way (i really disliked the voices of the guys who aren't doug yule)

Fair enough. I thought the line up looked kinda interesting, but because of Yule mostly...

I just printed out this thread and added it to my binders full of suggested discogs of genres/styles I'll get to later in life. Thanks guys.

ha, that american flyer album is one i pull out at least once a year and say "'cmon, it's gotta be GOOD. How can it not be good?" And yet ...

It was a couple Dave Mason records I was surprised I liked that got me to reopen this thread in the first place, by the way. Does he fit in here?

Haven't heard his solo albums, but his work with Traffic fits a couple of streams of association with others mentioned on this thread. All that about Cowboy, and even Grinderswitch, because when I saw them on the same bill (Wha? That's the mid-70s for you), people were saying, "H'mm. Those boys sound lak Traffic." That's what they were saying about Cowboy; about Grinderswitch, they were saying, "YEEEEEEHAAAA!" (Soon after,Cowboy's Tommy Talton toured with Johnny Sandlin and Bill Stewart, mentioned in that bio Scott pasted upthread, and they did a week at a club not far from where I live. With local keyboardist Jabbo Stokes, they sounded like Jeff Beck with Stevie Wonder's band, though Jabbo wisely didn't try to sing like Stevie. I posted about this [and the recent all-star benefit for Scott Boyer, who also still has a band, the Decoys, in North Alabama] on Rolling Country, so will shut up about it now). The other stream of association is that Dave Mason also did an album with Cass Elliot, Alone Together, one of the best/most pertinent titles ever, ever, and Cass is also one mighty baby on the finally reissued proto-folk-rock Mugwumps album (Collector's Choice, but doesn't sound like poop this time, Scott!) This is true folk times rock, despite and yet somehow in part because of Cass's Tin Pan Alley fixations (she wanted to be Streisand? Anyway, she's taught herself to belt in tune, without overdoing that, like Ronstadt can)(But where are the *Stone Poneys* on this thread? "You and meee, we're marching to the beat of a *different* drum.") Southern children of this thread: Tift Merritt's Bramble Rose (re Ronstadt-Raitt-Larsen and the writers they covered), and some of her former backup musos are most of Chatham County Line, a great song band, if you don't mind a little bluegrass. They know their Zevon (and his collaborators), and thier Hunter/Garcia, their Randy Newman. Ditto Jason Isbell, finally out of the Truckers, but with them playing his way on his album, Sirens Of The Ditch (out Tues., and my review will be in Voice d'rectly). Currently listening to Johnny Irion's Ex Tempore, also featuring Tift and members of CCL, but more like the kind of orchestrated granola, not Thos. Jefferson Kaye (upthread), so much as the sort thing he exploited (produced for others and took sly piss out of on his own)

fraser and debolt
canadian

Chatham County Line's second album (blanking on title) is a bit stiff, compared to the first and third (start with the latter, Speed Of The Whipoorwill). Also, more on the psych side, Oakley Hall's Gypsum Strings (shock of the Wilderness! But they're hardy folk); Howe Gelb's 'Sno Angel But You (good, despite the title)isn't orchestrated, but has a small choir, swooping like the wind across the plain and plane(but not too much), plus The Arcade Fire's drummer (and Howe's guitar and keyboards, and that's 'bout all they need).

fraser and debolt
canadian

-- delta88, Saturday, July 7, 2007 5:24 AM

have you heard meg baird's (one of the espers gals) version of the waltze of the tennis players??? awesome stuff

also, never saw this before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHYQr8meeog&mode=related&search=

I finally picked up a copy of the Charley D and Milo record that Scott always talks about and yeah so blissful and pretty. I wasn't expecting it to be *that* pretty. What a super, super, album. Thanks Scott for the recommendation!

Listening to the Eagles "On The Border" right now. so awesome.

listening to this right now:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/48267.jpg

which, as far as i know, is just matthews southern comfort without matthew. someone tell me if i'm wrong. they apparently put out three albums on their own. and it's good too. no real decline in quality. lotsa nice harmonies.

i can't see the cover. I want to. I've never heard of or hear Southern Comfort without Iain. I want to, though.

whoops, sorry! i can't see it either. try this:

u.s./canada cover:

http://www.coolforever.com/temp/southerncomfort_frogcity_jefflp_may2006.jpg

u.k. cover:

http://991.com/newgallery/Southern-Comfort-Frog-City-380144.jpg

Frog City! what year did it come out?

I just spent the afternoon sunning & swimming w/my son, came home and put on Garden Party by Rick Nelson and am totally feeling that early-mid 70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock.

"what's up my mellow"

garden party is such a genius album. just jaw-dropping to me.

frog city came out in 71. so did later that same year. which was the last matthews southern comfort album.

i bought garden party not really knowing what to expect other than i liked the actual song garden party. god it just sounded so amazing and beautiful.

i love the double album of rick's country stuff that i have too.

Thanks for all that Mason info upthread, dow!

then there is ANOTHER album that came out in 71 on Harvest:

http://991.com/newgallery/Southern-Comfort-Southern-Comfort-257890.jpg

and now i am kinda curious about this completely different u.s. band who had one album in 1969:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/449192.jpg

listened to moby grape '69 today too. it is summer after all. and the last vetiver album! doesn't fit time-wise for this thread, but it definitely gave me a warm west coast feeling. some of their stuff on that album reminded me of what i liked about beechwood sparks.

can we please get a head-count of who hates and who likes beechwood sparks? i know some people hate them for some reason and i have no idea why. i really dug their stuff. i still want to get the stuff of theirs that i haven't heard. i only have the first full-length and that affiliated album by The Tyde that i also really like.

Moby Grape's Wow/Grape Jam double-LP may be the only one of theirs not mentioned yet on here. Mainlywhat I remember isMoseley on the one that starts,"Working 'til e-leh-eh-ven..."That one got me. Later he joined the Marines, while the Vietnam War was still going strong. Didn't know he did a solo album! Wonder if he's still active/alive?

beachwood sparks with better vocals coulda been great. the first record had the best songs, but they played with more confidence on the second (and it was better produced than the debut). the final ep was kinda interesting, showed them moving out of the overtly retro thing, sorta, or at least away from country-rock thing.

If you like Beachwood Sparks Scott check out a now defunct side project of one of the main members called AllNightRadio. They take the whole west coast/pop/country/folk thing and change it up a bit with more psych and less overt pop structure. Kinda what Gershy was saying about the final ep and part of the reason they broke up, the more forward thinking dude went on to AllNightRadio.

I've been digging Unicorn's Blue Pine Trees LP from '74. David Gilmour pretends to be Garcia on pedal steal -- he's great. Unicorn sound very much like the British version of New Riders. The LP isn't as consistenly cosmic as the first two New Riders LPs, but there are several peak moments, particularly "Sleep Song," which is literally a cosmic country/smooth British pop ode to sleep!

I finally got my in-house turntable working again this weekend, and one of the first things I listened to was the first side of Leon Russell and The Shelter People. Jammy goodness and too underappreciated on this thread. I've swiped Hank Wilson's Back and the live TRIPLE ALBUM from my dad's library recently. Will report back soon.

I need to look into those Russell jams. Is it bluesy stuff or more soaring West Coast magic?

In the last week, I've interviewed Weir, Tom Shipley (of Brewer & Shipley), and Richie Furay (of Poco). I'm ass-deep in West Coast sounds.

C.Grisso/McCain, have you heard Asylum Choir II? Leon and Marc Benno, who seems to have pretty much disappeared after AC, though he did at least one solo album. II used to be a party favorite in our trailer park, especially "Down On The Base" (Base Exchange party favors, whoo hoo! An important part of Southern culture, on or off the skids). Speaking of Jason Isbell, here's my review of his solo debut, Sirens Of The Ditch (smoother and more consistently tuneful than the Truckers, but closer to Zevon and Newman than the Eagles--maybe if Ronnie Van Zant had gone solo, and kept going--?) http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0728,allred,77190,22.html

Haven't heard Asylum Choir II. I did recently pick up the new reish of Look Inside The Asylum Choir, their first set from '68 (IIRC, II was cut the next year but temporarily shelved). It was ok studio psych. I actually haven't played HWB and the live set yet, though I'll probably dip into the former when I get home. As for The Shelter People LP, it actually is a loose mix of blues, country, and some soaring West Coast magic, with all three coming together beautifully in the opening cut, "Stranger In A Strange Land." There are also a couple of cool Dylan covers ("A Hard Rain's A Gonna Fall" & "It Takes A Lot To Laugh..."). Side 1 is more rock and souled-out, side 2 is mellow come down stuff.

somethings i've been digging alone these lines.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drh100/h181/h18112ljmb9.jpg
the Wackers "Wackering Heights" - Gary Usher produced record that amg gets right on: A charming, sunny debut disc from a group that somehow managed to blend the Byrds and the Monkees into a pop sound that was as intelligent as it was catchy.

Johnny Rivers "Realization" - i've never listened to him before, but after my mom telling me she dated him for 2 years after she and my dad split up, i decided to check it out. really nicely produced w/great plucked bass sound. kinda reminds me of Gene Clark.

Don Everly "Sunset Towers"

Wait, your Mom dated Johnny Rivers? How'd she meet him? I used to go out with a girl whose Mom went out with Don Preston of the Mothers (I think he also played with Leon; they were both from Oklahoma.) "Donnie" wa long gone by the time I got there Her Mom was this cool old Southern Alabama-to-Southern Cali hipster, homegrown. Um, anyway, don't know if they're on that album, but you gotta hear "Summer Rain," "Poor Side Of Town" "Baby, I Need Your Lovin'," "Secret Agent Man."

I just spotted Poco "Legend" for a buck. Picked it up. None too impressed, but I see it wasn't mentioned upthread, so I'll try a couple more.

I just put on the first Aztec Two-Step album and am shocked at how much I'm liking it. Not west coast, really more 'soft rock' than anything in the thread title, but definitely feels post-psych/folk-rocky.

first aztec two step is probably their best. really nice. great jerry yester production too. the guitars sound awesome.

yeah i like that aztec two-step record.

i don't know much by him, but john stewart interests me. "july you're a woman" popped up on my ipod tonight.

this is really good:

http://members.aol.com/clackclack/bloodlin.jpg

hoosdude, as was stated elsewhere on this thread, i will only vouch for poco up to and including crazy eyes. after that, you are on your own.

scott's seal of quality:

# 1969 Pickin' Up the Pieces
# 1970 Poco
# 1971 Deliverin'
# 1971 From The Inside
# 1972 A Good Feelin’ To Know
# 1973 Crazy Eyes

Wait, your Mom dated Johnny Rivers? How'd she meet him?

i already forget the full story, but something about her good friend being his manager or something? she lived in Topanga Canyon for a buncha years and in santa cruz for a few others (dated one of the guys in Snail for a bit). hippy shit.

Fans of this style should see Daft Punk's 'Electroma'.

with all three coming together beautifully in the opening cut, "Stranger In A Strange Land."

Is this the Crosby tune? Blackburn & Snow did a wonderful version. For any San Fran folk-rock fans, Blackburn & Snow is a must.

Nah, it's a Leon original w/the same title. Those 60s Cali hippies loved them some Heinlein.

holy shit guys
http://www.angryhippy.net/images/Paul_Kantner_And_Grace_Slick_Sunfighter.jpg

I picked this up cause the name Grace Slick rang some vague bells and the cover was funny. This is like my favorite accidental find of the year so far. All the reviews I'm reading call its subpar stuff, inessential, whatnot, but I'm loving the shit out of it.

Definitely more psych than post-psych, per se, but very psych country-rock.

the name Grace Slick rang some vague bells

haha

ya rly

oh, BIG HOOS

i r learning

I snagged a John Stewart comp (Earth Rider) at the record shop for 3 bucks last week, and I are happy...never knew too much about this guy, except he was in the Kingston Trio, and did the song "Gold"...but what a career...treads the same paths that Gene Clark and Townes Van Zandt once did, with a touch less cynicism...can't believe I didn't catch on sooner...

never knew too much about this guy, except he was in the Kingston Trio, and did the song "Gold"

and wrote the great "daydream believer," among other things!

Would Lee Michaels fit in here? Definitely west coast. Some kinda folky moments (but nothing really on the country tip) and definitely some psych moves. I like his early ones (Barrel and Recital come to mind) and the live 2lp is a monster. It's just him on organ and a badass drummer.

LEE MICHAELS, I salute you.

Yeah that live Lee Michaels is heat.

i've only got the self titled one, but it's pretty awesome. that drum solo (and a few other spots on the album) have been sampled a bunch of times.

i've been listening to a bunch of Little Feat's "Feats Don't Fail me now" lately. god it's so funky. any other groups get this funky? sounds like the meters fronted by a white guy.

and i've had that album for years. was one of the first records i bought for a buck. never pulled it out because i'm not huge into boogie blues stuff, but read recently rub'n'tug used a track from it on one of their mixes and realized how wrong i was about them.

I also dig some of Brian Hyland's stuff (who probably fits in better here). His cover of Gypsy Woman is awesome.

I'll have to check that Little Feat. Is that the one w/ the crazy piece-of-cake-on-a-swing cover?

No, I guess not (thanks google). Their covers are so wacky and bad sometimes that I look at those Little Feat albums and think "HOW can this be good?"

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000631ED.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

And Sailin shoes was the one I was thinkin of originally:
http://www.superseventies.com/ac10sailinshoes.gif

WTF???

my fave stoner lee michaels cover:

http://www.coolforever.com/temp/leemichaels_tailface.jpg

waiting for columbus is one of my favorite live albums EVER. it makes my top 10 or 20. if i had a top 10 or 20.

okay, scott I'll get over my little feat phobia for that.

that album with gypsy woman on it is really good, but my fave thing on it is his cover of slow down. luv the fuzz on that one.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/67791.jpg

i love little feat. and they are still great!

Little Feat Fuckin' Rocked Tonight!!!!

Feats Don't Fail Me Now has been in constant rotation on my turntable for the last year or so. it's perfect and such an easy 'go-to' record.

plus, little feat live now have shaun murphy of stoney & meatloaf fame on vocals and she is awesome.

http://www.musik-base.de/images/cd-cover/36/36715.jpg

cutting and pasting just so people know how good they can be live to this day just in case they play a county fair near you:

Little Feat's line-up is more classic than most of their ilk and age. Bill Payne and Richie Hayward played on the first album and Paul Barrere, Sam Clayton, Kenny Gradney, & Fred Tackett are all Dixie Chicken era or thereabouts. They mostly rely on the jam band crowd. They put up tons of live shows on the web, so you can hear how good they sound. They are just so tight and rockin'. Long fiery EXCITING guitar solos. I can't remember the last time i heard one of those. They are all such pros. When they get locked in to one of those grooves, it is heaven. and Shaun really does have an amazing voice. She mostly sings back-up though and only gets a few solo numbers. they are in no way hokey. okay, don't bogart that joint is hokey. (it was hokey on the first fraternity of man album too. an album that is otherwise a fine slice of psych-rock.)

-- scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:09 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Haha that Little Feat album cover is what makes me do a double take in the dollar bins. I used to pass on the Lee Michaels self titled but decided to pick it up one day and lordy when I heard that insane drum solo I was sold. I saw Harvey drop some Lee Michaels love last month, I think it may have been off of Carnival ???? it was this insane psych boogie jam that he mixed into some other 70's southern boogie stuff, it was pretty great.

I listen to Lee Michaels and I think "why didn't this guy become super-mega huge?" He had the one of the best voices of his era, and he always looked friggin cool. AND he could write amazing songs and play he organ better than anyone around. Ofcourse, he also had some killer drummers on those LPs as mentioned above.

I guess he did make an impact because I do see his records in a good number of used bins ... but ...

the only Lee Michaels album I own is 5th. y'know, with his BIG HIT on it. I'll have to keep a look out for the live thing.

this is good if you see it for a dollar:

http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/m/a/mariah390871.jpg

-- scott seward, Friday, April 6, 2007 2:01 PM (3 months ago)

I did see it for a dollar! and so I picked it up. When I went to pay for my records the grizzled old record dude was real enthusiastic about telling me that a Mariah guy went on to be in Survivor. I haven't listened yet. Right now I'm drinking white wine (don't worry, it's a pouilly-fuisse) and listening to this, which was also a dollar:

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/41S7CZ4DS5L._AA240_.jpg

young linda = serious cuteness

jammin the charlie d & milo album as we speak.
another recentish discovery are High Mohtain Hoe-Down, who are bluesier than a lot of what gets talked about on this thread.

also, the recent Instant Orange 2LP (CD?) set on Shadoks is amazing. Talk about expensive re-issues, though!! Two LPs for $55, shit. that is expensive. i bet the CD is cheaper. i found a marked down Shadoks CD of the Fingletoad, Siho and Strange set when I was in RI once. It's great, fits on this thread. Inna very Neil Young fuzz guitar groove. This Instant Orange is more Byrdsy feeling. More Moby Grape, too; some cool guitar stuff going on. They are real funny looking in the phoographs, too.

so that Ronstadt album kinda ruled. When "Long Long While" came on I did feel a little like that old Baboon Dooley comic where the guy buys a copy of Chicago II, goes home and smokes a joint, and there's a "I remember this tune" thought-bubble as '25 or 6 to 4' plays. I wish there were full credits on this album, I wanna know who rips off that guitar solo on "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow". Is it Bernie??

speaking of insanely priced vinyl reishes, has anybody heard the Country Weather record?? been dying to pick that one up. Just say "San Francisco" and "1969" and I'm there...

Recently found me an old copy of Graham Nash's "Songs for Beginners" and this thread was tailor made for this kind of record. "Better Days" is one of the best songs I've heard from this weird sub-genre.

hmm .. I'm not so sure this Mariah album exactly fits in with "early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock". I do dig it though! Reminds me a bit of Head East. nice vocal harmonies. and great lead guitar courtesy of, sure enough, future Survivor member Frankie Sullivan.

yes yes yes LOVE Little Feat's albums thru Waiting For Columbus. when I was in high school I saw them live w/Lowell George, only concert I ever snuck into, LG's slide guitar just bowling everybody over (and we were smoking bowls of course hahaha) opening act was Boz Skags just before Silk Degrees hit it big, quite a double-bill in retrospect.

thanks for the Lee Michaels tips, I've been eyeing his albums on Rhapsody not knowing where to start, all I know are his FM hits.

this is all I know abt this dude, the album w/"gold" it's pretty great.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/7a/9c/fba3228348a09855987af010.L.jpg

Little Feat's Sailin' Shoes is a great record. The band hadn't dug into the New Orleans thing quite yet. It was produced by Ted Templeman, so it has this wonderfully huge sound.

I saw Ratdog last night. Great show. The jam band throb is still pulsing inside my head. They did a great cover of "Easy to Slip" from Sailin' Shoes.

I remember when "Gold" came out, and Creem had a story on John Stewart, and I thought "who's this old dude trying to be a rock star?"...well, now I am older than that "old dude" was in '79...I'll try to remember that the next time I fancy myself "down with the kids"...

i see this john stewart album every time i go to a store, but have never once listened to him. guess i'll check it out if it's cheap next time.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1447/bloodlinbh1.jpg

Anybody heard this yet? It's a comp of rare and unreleased John Phillips sides from the early 70s.

http://www.myspace.com/theyellowmoonband

current band doing Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, Fleetwood Mac, Anonymous type stuff. pretty good from the 2 tracks on their myspace.

Definitely want to check out that John Philips reissue. I picked up the Wolfking album a few months back and listen to it frequently. Excellent stuff.

Already posted this somewhere else, but it belongs here too:

Lee Michaels-Who Can Want More

yeah, i was unaware of that phillips release, will definitely pick it out

or up

i have the yellow moon band 45, it's great. see also fab labelmates starless & bible black

these two records are next to each other on my shelf

http://home.comcast.net/~dunhill1966/images/wolfking.jpg http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0001M0KCU.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

(this is my fave dylan record)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41PPKNA21TL._AA240_.jpg

I just picked this up. It's pretty darn good. Help Yourself had a West Coast/proto-pub rock thing going on.

Anyone heard Bobby Darin's "commitment" LP from 1970? Some really great tracks on there, especially the first one. Kinda psychedelic (with lots of smokin mentions) and pretty folky. Nice grooves and even a few funky folk breakbeats. It's definitely a side of Bob Darin that I hadn't heard until a few days ago.

Class from the Pop-Rock division:

http://www.djangomusic.com/images/cover200/drf800/f860/f86016gux2w.jpg

Anyone heard Bobby Darin's "commitment" LP from 1970?
I LOVE Darin's indie years. Direction Records was run out of a trailer, I think. The other Direction lp, Born Walden Robert Cassotto, is just about as good as Commitment.

i picked up Maria Muldaur's "Sweet Harmony" yesterday for a buck thinking it was gonna be an LA session singer songwriter record w/jazzy touches like joni or something. earl palmer was on drums, so i thought there'd be a bit of funk. put it on and skipped through the songs and was pretty disappointed. put it back on today to actually listen to it and it's a kinda nice, mellow country/folk/gospel album. definitely worth the dollar i spent on it.

I started a Maria thread that no one responded to. still curious about some of those later albums after the 1st one

Maria Muldaur - Classic or Dud?

If you like Earl -- and who doesn't?? -- I think I've sung the praises of Bonnie Raitt's Takin' My Time on here before, he's all over it...

my best friend was dating his daughter for a while (think she's half filipino)

weird. i did a search and came up w/nothing.

i picked up that john phillips deal, jack of diamonds. it's a real mixed bag as you would expect from an aborted solo album, but it has some decent tunes.

really digging this today:

http://www.themonkees.com/monkees_recordings/US/Album%20Michael%20Nesmith%20Tantamount%20To%20Treason.gif

such a great space cowboy record.

digging this too:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51S0S7nD8UL._SS500_.jpg

Re: Tantamount to Treason. "Lazy Lady" came up when I did a random ten earlier... here

I've been wanting to hear that Sir Douglas record but have never found it. Synopsis?

Also, I happened to put up two songs this week that would fit this category. First, Judee Sill was for a time a big Laurel Canyon figure. Jesus Was a Crossmaker was produced by Graham Nash and was covered by the Hollies I think, so you might have heard it. Second, The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band were namechecked right at the beginning of this thread and they're awesome. All I listen to the last few days.

Augie Meyer's Western Head Band! Sir Douglas keyboardist gets downhome.

<3 Sopwith Camel's "The Miraculous Hump Returns From The Moon." Sounds like a completely different band than the one that did "Hello, Hello."

"I've been wanting to hear that Sir Douglas record but have never found it. Synopsis?"

very bluesy and very cool. and also kinda all over the place. it's actually divided by sides. blues side is side one and the texmex/country side is side two. which is unique. lots of horns. lots of everything. one track will have accordion, dr.john, and a sax solo by david fathead newman on it. atlantic spent good money on the production. sounds great. half produced by doug and half produced by jerry wexler. great soulful vocals by doug too. possibly the only record i own that features jimmy knepper AND david bromberg.

the last two songs on side one of that nesmith album, gaaaaawd, how beautiful and stoned. such amazing vocals by mike. "you are my one" and "in the afternoon".

past few months or so ian matthew's version of "these days" has been keeping me happy.

and i just been getting into the (first? only?) Ken Lauber record. Some good cosmic country moments on there, and some sadman ballads too.

he is a busy dude

http://www.kenlauber.net/home.htm

like i said elsewhere, i've been digging this curt newbury album a bunch:

http://popsike.com/pix/20060131/4829292847.jpg

doesn't really belong here maybe. more of a psych/folk thing. but what the hell, maybe he's mickey newbury's brother.

my gf went out with nesmith's son for a bit

never met the nez himself though

I got kind of obsessed with "Wax Minute" for awhile. It's got the same tune as another, more famous song, but I've never been able to put my finger on which one. It'll come to me eventually.

also, doesn't dylan play on the doug sahm album or did I make that up?

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/2f/20/4ab2a2c008a0bf67248f4010._AA240_.L.jpg

i've been digging this the past few days. It's got some Band, Dead, Poco, Nitty Gritty, and Allmans mixed in there. It also has some acid-tinged hillbilly jams with heavy echo and tape loops.

Ian Matthews' version of "These Days" is gorgeous. He is one of the great interpreters.

doesn't dylan play on the doug sahm album or did I make that up?

Almost. Dylan is on the Doug Sahm and Band album which came out earlier in '73. The Wexler trax on Texas Tornado were leftovers from the DSaB sessions, but Dylan isn't on 'em. Both records were reissued with about an albums worth of additional outtakes in a box entitled The Genuine Texas Groover by Rhino Handmade. Sadly, it's OOP and really expensive now. Rhino's also OOP Sahm on Atlantic "Best of" has another 4 unreleased songs that aren't on the box.

Actually I have to take part of that back. Dylan plays harmonica on "Tennessee Blues" off TT.

OMG-Poco on a boat!

Thanks for the Poco video. Ridiculous. I almost can't believe it. I think my buddy has that doug sahm handmade box, that's what I need to get.

I downloaded that curt newbury album. not sure I love it yet but it's solid. Can't help wondering every time I play it if he's really a pedophile!

what's the deal with the Ron Nagel "Bad Rice" album? i see it in stores and on ebay for 30-50$. i found a copy of it for a quarter a few years ago and picked it up because jack nitzsche was producing it. i guess it's "important" because of ry cooder being on it, but it's not very good.

http://www.littlehits.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/ron-nagle.jpg

well you wouldn't know it from the cover

I picked up an armload of this stuff cheap on vinyl at a sale a couple months back, including some early Poco, the first American Flyer LP, Glenn Campbell’s Reunion, Graham Nash’s first solo album, both of the S.H.F Band’s efforts, and J.D. Souther’s first three albums. Even at this late date, I’m still wading through ‘em, but I would like to single out Souther’s self-titled debut for praise. Released in ’72 (one of the first LPs on asylum), it’s nice set of stripped down country-rock, perhaps a little more autumn-like in mood than some of his contemporaries. Has the original versions of “Run Like A Thief” (which Bonnie Raitt covered) and “How Long” (which is now the new Eagles single). A lost classic methinks, and totally worth the dollar I spent on it.

After a quick search - I can't figure out the ambivalence or downright sodding of The Byrds Untitled/Unissued release. The Columbia Legacy re-release is a good package - the psych freakout, side long 'Eight Miles High,' the fun swamp rock of 'Lover of the Bayou' and 'All the Things' and 'Chestnut Mare' are among Byrds best. Clarence White had some fun guitar lines and he plays as a good counter-element to McGuinn.

I think most of the people that diss Untitled are the same folks that wish they had packed it in when Gram Parsons left. Which is wrong. That said, I myself am not that enthralled w/the live half, aside from "Lover..." and the "EMH" jam. The studio stuff is pretty good. "You All Look Alike" is a personal fave.

"Untitled" is the first Byrds album I ever owned, I think because I found it at a used CD store. So it's been a personal favorite for years and years.

And Lover Of The Bayou is enthralling enough on its own, isn't it?

Digging this today:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NHQSFEW6L._SS500_.jpg

For a buncha Limeys, they had the West Coast Pop-Rock sound down to a T.

How Long (and the Lipps Inc version) is my jam

Can someone fill in what Ace was apart from "How Long"?

Ace: Mid to late-era pub rock, with strong overtones of The Band, Leon Russell, Little Feat, JJ Cale, Steely Dan, and the Doobie Bros. Released three albums before splitting, none of which have been properly released on CD.* "How Long" was an obvious single for them, slicker and more radio-friendly than the rest of that first album. Altough the opening cut on side 2, "Why", is faster number in the "How Long" mold. Apparently on their other albums (which I haven't heard), they adjusted their sound in a more mainstream Pop direction in hopes of landing another hit, but it wasn't to be. Thanks to the hit, Five-A-Side can be easily found used on vinyl for a few bucks.

*Well, Five-A-Side has been done, but copies are very hard to find and ergo quite expensive when found.

I used to think Bob Weir's Ace LP was by the band Ace.

C. Grisso/McCain: Many thanks!!

I couldn't quite hack Curt Newbury's perpetual quaveriness. But some of the music is nice.

Also, can the Stalk Forrest Group live on this thread? What Is Quicksand is such a beaut!

I was well pleased to hear the curt newbury, but yeah, it's not an instant classic for me.

This early Voice piece on the Byrds--and related artists/bands--by a relatively young, pre-CG xgau may amuse some of you; and quite possibly horrify others; but them's the breaks. Just read it myself--and even though it was published mid-69, I think that it’s relevant to what this thread is all about, regardless. Here’s the link:

http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/news/byrds-69.php

his blessed memory will love on in all of us, rip

and live on, too

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/Large/04/1002904.jpg

This Lambert & Nuttycombe album rules my world lately. it is very pretty, but so small-scaled. Exceptionally reserved. Kinda like a cross btw nick drake and jj cale.

don't know if i brought this up before. but the one and only - i think - album by mike corbett & jay hirsh on atco from 1971 is really good. nice blend of hippie stuff, great harmonies, country twang, folk, folk-rock, and even sitar. and children singing. anyway, it belongs here. if you ever see it cheap, definitely pick it up. great production too. my promo copy sounds awesome.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/388417.jpg

Ooh i'd really like to get my hands on that one.

truly fine citizen by moby grape is sooooooo good. i get "contact high" just listening to its woozy grooves

been listening to this a lot lately too. i think it fits this thread, there's kind of a jazzy feel to it as well.

http://i10.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/ba/a3/2e02_1.JPG

listening to ned doheny debut on asylum. i guess they were hoping for another jackson browne. it's nice though. VERY light and mellow el lay southern/folk/jazz/rock. very california.

http://www.bluedesert.dk/doheny/Doheny73.jpg

i love that danny o'keefe album. i talked about him on some thread. can't remember which. i love breezy stories and i love his global blues album from 1979. after finally hearing it, i wasn't that impressed by his 72 album with his big hit on it goodtime charlies got the blues.

i don't know wear danny belongs. breezy stories is just an awesome album.

the edition of breezy stories on rhapsody has "good time charlie" tacked on at the end, i love that song.

this album has jaxon written all over it. flutes, bongos, country-rock, chris hillman, and incongrous ARP synth action:

http://users.skynet.be/fa388247/robertssheis.jpg

I just snagged Mason Proffit's debut for $5, pretty darn good price. At first I thought these guys were pretty cool. Now I'm just blown away by them. They really nailed the epic outlaw/native american/rural christian thing.

both early 70's rick roberts albums are west coast extravaganzas. rick was in the burritos at the end.

from the german westcoast blog:

"Windmills" LP fea. Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Jackson Browne, Al Perkins, Chris Hillman...

"She Is A Song" LP feat. Al Perkins, George Grantham, Joe Walsh, Joe Lala, Chris Hillman, Joe Vitale, Rusty Young...

So both albums feat. ex-members and members from The Eagles, The Byrds, Manassas and Poco.

http://noted.blogs.com/westcoastmusic/2005/03/rick_roberts_wi.html

oops, i meant french westcoast blog. not german.

http://www.forcedexposure.com/product_images/r/RD015LP.JPEG

I also paid the $$$ for this Country Weather anthology. Insane packaging: low budget yet lavish, if that's possible. Pretty good. It's kind of like the rural Bay Area's answer to Obscured by Clouds-era Floyd.

Thanks for the link, Scott.

I also recently bought the Blue Mountain Eagle reissue on Fallout:

http://www.forcedexposure.com/product_images/f/FO2080CD.JPEG

It hasn't blown my mind right away, probably because some of the you-got-me-down-baby lyrics are pretty darn hokey. But the West Coast jamming is pretty convincing. The twin guitarists do smoke, some chunky fuzz.

i hate to break it to you, but there is an ilx-wide ban on all radioactive/fallout bootlegs. they are slime. what they have put people like george brigman through would make you weep:

http://www.nothingexceptional.com/records/radioactive.html

just kidding about the ilx-wide ban, but i tell as many people as i can not to give these people their money. and you should tell any record stores that carry their stuff not to carry it.

anyway, i was looking for a heads hands & feet album cover and i came across this list and talk about weeping!

http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view?list_id=76676&show=100&start=0

what a year. *sigh*. alright, fine, maybe by 1975 the world needed the pistols, but 1973? sheesh, so inventive. so creative. just worlds within worlds within worlds. entire galaxies of sound and inspiration. and that's just one list! and i haven't even heard most of the stuff on that list! i want to hear them all before i die. 1970 to 1973 was some sort of amazing astonishing moment in time. all bets were off! you could do anything! and frequently get someone to pay you to do it!

<i>just kidding about the ilx-wide ban, but i tell as many people as i can not to give these people their money. and you should tell any record stores that carry their stuff not to carry it.</i>

Lots of labels have put lots of musicians through hell, so we might as well only buy stuff on dischord ;)

yeah, but when people repeatedly, over a period of years, beg and plead for a label to stop putting out crappy bootlegs that they will never see a dime from and the label refuses to do it? i don't need to support that. i do what i can. which, admittedly, isn't much.

and most of these people are people who never saw a dime in the first place. and they are getting older. and they often have their own plans to put out their old records. but they don't have the amazing distribution that radioactive/fallout had/has. and they don't want to put out color-copier covers and needle-drop boots.

it's the pro operation that i have a problem with. if someone was lovingly putting out limited heavy vinyl reissues from good sources of out-of-print obscurities for geeks and freeks then i wouldn't get so riled (and i have bought these in the past). or even posting them on blogs for awhile or until someone complained. but it's so much easier now - via the web - to actually find the people involved and actually involve them.

example: a genuine ilm success story:

Laser Pace - Granfalloon (Takoma - 1974) Wow!

All your points are OTM. But in all honesty, if Radioactive puts out something that I can only get from them, then I'm probably going to buy it.

don't know if i brought this up before. but the one and only - i think - album by mike corbett & jay hirsh on atco from 1971 is really good. nice blend of hippie stuff, great harmonies, country twang, folk, folk-rock, and even sitar. and children singing. anyway, it belongs here. if you ever see it cheap, definitely pick it up. great production too. my promo copy sounds awesome.

-- scott seward, Sunday, 6 January 2008 22:09 (3 weeks ago) Link

i'm killing myself trying to find this, w/o success! got outbid on ebay, the stalinists

This one is nice:
http://www.lacoctelera.com/pepsounds/imag/marlin-g.jpg

i have that, but i haven't played it in years.

man .. funny because I was just coming on to ILX to talk about how the biggest revelation of the whole 'San Francisco Nuggets' thing was, for me, COUNTRY WEATHER!

so beautiful ... I immediately ordered the LP, hasn't arrived yet...

also, Salvation!! wow, I guess that LP is $50-plus-er, damn .. :( NEED IT!

There was some awesome Country Weather tracks on one of the Ptolemaic Terrascope compilations. Great great stuff. Is there reissues around?? Donovan Quinn from the Skygreen Leopards is the son of one of those dudes, I believe.

> L.A. Getaway (Atco SD 33-357, 1971)

Been digging this recent find, which surely deserves mention here. The band's kind of a Crazy Horse trio with Joel Scott Hill (Canned Heat), Chris Ethridge (Burritos) and Johnny Barbata (Turtles) doing loose, LOUD rootsiness with cameos by all the cats. Leon Russell & Mac Rebbenack are present, of course, and the highlight is probably a version of the Doctor's Craney Crow, with Clydie King & the girls on vox.

Clarence White, Sneakey Pete, Spooner Oldham, John Sebastian, Larry Knechtal: everybody drops in. What a great, hairy scene L.A. seems to have been in that era, with the fingerprints of the wrecking crew and the Tulsa dudes all over everything.

So soulful and unforced, but really rocking, these guys must have torn it up on the strip or wherever groups like Grin and the Rockets and them were playing in those days.

Is there reissues around??

I don't think their stuff was officially released -- maybe a single at the most. I recently picked up this collection of demos and live tracks. It's pretty sweet. I was actually expecting something a little less Floyd, a little more Dead. But hey, it goes great with Kak. And yes, bassist Dave Carter is Donovan's dad.

At first, Fusetron said it was out of print, but then he tracked one down for me.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/pop_albums/9/6/n/f96579rpmn1.jpg

I crank Unicorn's Blue Pine Trees LP nearly everyday. They were the UK's answer to New Riders of the Purple Sage. David Gilmour even sits in on pedal steel, just the way Garcia did with NRPS.

Nice to see some New Riders of the Purple Sage love here - I've been digging their early LPs for the past couple of weeks. I'd never heard 'em before, except for one 'unmemorable' occasion 20 years ago, in a smoke-filled dorm room. (Aside from the New Riders and the Dead, the guy listened to '70s prog and-nothing-but. I tried to turn him onto Trout Mask Replica: He didn't like it much, but thought the cover was hilarious on mushrooms.)

listening to ned doheny debut on asylum. i guess they were hoping for another jackson browne. it's nice though. VERY light and mellow el lay southern/folk/jazz/rock. very california.

been seeking this for some time now..I have his second LP (Hard Candy) which is also great, probably a little slicker than the first...(the David Foster effect)...have only heard "Postcards From Hollywood" from the debut...

on this tip, any love from anybody for this?:

http://blog.livedoor.jp/kisslikejudas/f2868e55.jpg

I seen that Unicorn record raved about elsewhere. Different cover too...

http://ring.cdandlp.com/vendors2/photo_grande/110023839.jpg

Maybe it's a diff Unicorn or a diff record? That cover looks a little too whimsical for Blue Pine Trees. It's def a better artwork, however!

Nice to see some New Riders of the Purple Sage love here - I've been digging their early LPs for the past couple of weeks.

Have you been digging Gypsy Cowboy (sorry for the small jpg)?
http://www.artist-shop.com/wounded/cowboy.jpg
This one is NRPS' most overtly psychedelic -- some murky Floyd vibes. It's also a lot darker than both the debut and Powerglide. Marmaduke is really bummed about the environment, so he submerged everything is hazy sonic stuff.

Naw, that's definitely Blue Pine Trees, that's the cover on my copy! the back cover is TERRIBLE.

I've never checked out Gypsy Cowboy, but I'm a fan of select tracks on s/t & Powerglide. Dirty Business was my drug haze bonghit anthem for a week or so after I first heard it.

Naw, that's definitely Blue Pine Trees, that's the cover on my copy! the back cover is TERRIBLE.

Well, damn, I want that version!

huh, now that i look at it, the back cover of this version (orange label capitol) is the central image from the front cover on yours, with pretty bad band photos and a tracklist gridded down in the middle. Same crummy Unicorn logo as on yers!

I've never checked out Gypsy Cowboy, but I'm a fan of select tracks on s/t & Powerglide. Dirty Business was my drug haze bonghit anthem for a week or so after I first heard it.

Gypsy Cowboy is two, three bong hits past "Dirty Business." If you find a copy, you'll have about three more weeks worth of anthems.

the back cover of this version (orange label capitol) is the central image from the front cover on yours, with pretty bad band photos and a tracklist gridded down in the middle.

What a weird juxtaposition! My cover is cokehead, and yours is straight-up shroomer.

Ooh child, I'll second Just a Stone's Throw Away and not just 'cause it's Featsy. Polished creamy, like all these all-star artifacts, but smart & expansive. "Face of Appalachia" is kind of a prog-country classic, but there are some sweet soul groovers, too. And it's Featsy -- the title number is like their great lost song, except with a girl that can really, really sing.

yeah, Lowell George was all over that record, as was Jackson Browne and Maurice White (!)...

Huh, just now playing that Valerie Carter (thanks for the nudge), and I forgot about the EWF funk stomper on side two!

Plus John Sebastian plays on this record, too, establishing one degree of separation between Verdine White and Ron Palillo.

ooh ooh!
ooh ooh!

Gypsy Cowboy's got "Death And Destruction" - sounds very similar to "Down By The River" (practically the same "two suspended chords" riff for eight minutes) with some remarkably sustained soloing on top, as if Ron Asheton decided to tackle Duane Allman's "Dreams". Yeah!

OK, maybe I'm making it sound better than it is. But it's still pretty good.

man, no gypsy cowboy in stock right now.
am i actually going to have to go look for it at ANOTHER RECORD STORE?

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you're not far off at all. the production on this record is really kind of harsh and blown-out at times. How about the album's feedback intro? These dudes were definitely listening to some Ummagumma.

you know what album i still have never heard? john fogerty's blue ridge rangers album on fantasy. i have a 45 of jambalaya and that's it.

http://bluestormmusic.com/store/images/fogerty-john_blue-ridge-rangersLP.jpg

John Fogerty's Blue Ridge Rangers album is really good roots-rock; I'd go ahead and take the plunge and buy it if I were you. Right now in my listening pile is a Blue Ridge Rangers single that didn't make the album, "You Don't Owe Me"/"Back To The Hills."

Although I don't know if somebody who rocks as hard as Fogerty would be right for this thread. Talking about him on a thread devoted to Poco soundalikes is like being the token greaser in the Haight-Ashbury. But then again, that's kinda what Fogerty was about!

hey, poco could rock!

and there are other rockin' things on here. like my tribute to grinderswitch.

but i put it here just cuzza the whole bluegrass/country vibe he was going for with the rangers record.

and, hey, if you are talking about good early 70's west coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock, this album has it all:

http://tokyo.cool.ne.jp/creedence/content2/image/Pendulum.jpg

but everyone knows that already.

hey, poco (and Grinderswitch) could rock!

Not in the rootsy, post-rockabilly-ish sense of the word, like CCR or Commander Cody or the Flamin' Groovies...Poco may have played rock, but Fogerty played rock & roll, if you dig my meaning...

i put it here just cuzza the whole bluegrass/country vibe he was going for with the rangers record.

I can kinda see that.

One thing about early-'70s country-rock is that it put bluegrass in the spotlight - "Dueling Banjos," Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, banjoist Earl Scruggs forming a semi-rock band with his sons, etc..

BTW, any opinions on Southwind (who counted Moon Martin as a member)?

I'm listening to The Blue Ridge Rangers right now, while living on the Blue Ridge! (Well, it's just about eight miles from here.) It makes total sense on this thread. It goes perfect with New Riders, Old & In the Way (Jerry's bluegrass outfit), Clarence White and Muleskinner, etc.

Fogerty is awesome. He plays straight up country guy on the opening track then on the second second he says "fuck that" and starts howling like a gospel fanatic. He then returns to country guy on the third. It's a fun record, with a fresh sound to it.

loved this record when i was a kiddie:

http://pixhost.eu/avaxhome/avaxhome/2007-09-18/thumbnail.jpg

RAVE ON!

can't underestimate the impact that Will The Circle Be Unbroken had on people in the early 70's. Tons of rock fans bought that thing. a lot of people who never really listened to that music.

Although I don't know if somebody who rocks as hard as Fogerty would be right for this thread. Talking about him on a thread devoted to Poco soundalikes is like being the token greaser in the Haight-Ashbury. But then again, that's kinda what Fogerty was about!

Also, the home of all those coked-up canyon rats, Asylum, released two of Fogerty's records in the '70s.

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Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (That cover of "Rave On" is like country-glam!)
Goose Greek Symphony
Pure Praire League

All vital to the development of country rock in the early 70s.

okay, so i went out to the ONE AND ONLY RECORD STORE ON THIS ISLAND just now and picked up a vinyl copy of Blue Ridge Rangers for four bucks. I don't mess around!

also picked up, in honor of this thread, Stealin' Home by Ian Matthews, and Marin County Line by the New Riders.

Stealin Home isn't that good, man. I'm pretty shocked you hadn't picked up a dollar bin copy ten years ago!

i waited until today. i can wait for most things. and i actually paid two dollars for it today!

I don't listen to much Iain/Ian after 1974's Some Days You Eat the Bear and Some Days the Bear Eats You.

I recently snagged a copy of If You Saw Thro' My Eyes from 1971. The title track is a duet w/Sandy Denny, and it's gorgeous.

I just finished reading Hotel California. When addressing the Eagles' major influences Hoskyns dropped the ball by not mentioning Iain. They took a lot from him.

i think i already went over what ian/southern comfort albums i like on this thread. so i won't repeat myself. for two bucks i don't mind listening to later lesser stuff.

okay, i can see you not liking stealin' home, ian, but jaxon would really dig it! totally smoooooove el-lay loverman stuff. i like this kind of thing.

I'm listening to Amelia Earhart album by Plainsong as I type this...

Although I don't know if somebody who rocks as hard as Fogerty would be right for this thread. Talking about him on a thread devoted to Poco soundalikes is like being the token greaser in the Haight-Ashbury. But then again, that's kinda what Fogerty was about!

*****

Also, the home of all those coked-up canyon rats, Asylum, released two of Fogerty's records in the '70s.

They only put out one John Fogerty album. The followup, Hoodoo, remains mostly unreleased (although a single came out).

Asylum also had the Dictators, who are as far from the Eagles and Jackson Browne as one can get.

Still, my only point is that Fogerty and CCR totally fit here. They were from California and very much reflected that fact. Although they weren't part of the Haight-Ashbury scene, the way their music created this Bayou myth is just like the Charlatans creating their neo-Victorian image and the Eagles whipping up their desperado thing. What's more, CCR/Fogerty were very much helping invent roots rock/Americana/country along with the Burritos, Poco, Dead, Little Feat, etc.

Hell, even "the dude" listens to CCR.

You can listen to the Bobby and the Dorks recordings here: http://www.jerryradio.com/downloads/DD-70-12-20-MP3/

Bobby and the Dorks was Crosby, Garcia, Lesh and Hart playing some club gigs around the Bay Area in 1970. They do an awesome version of "Cowboy Movie," off Crosby's debut solo album.

Seeing Scott's comments about "el-lay loverman stuff" reminded me that I've never followed up my post from way the hell upthread about Emitt Rhodes. A few months back I finally happened into a vinyl copy of Farewell To Paradise, his last set for Dunhill. Dude was definitely heading in that direction. Is it just me, or was he actually getting better as he went on? I know most people (including the manager of the shop I got it from) swear by the self titled debut, but I feel his playing on FTP is tighter and more varied than on his previous "one man band" efforts, giving off the illusion that other people were in on the session. Not to mention that his songwriting was more eclectic then it had been since the Merry-Go-Round era. Too bad there wasn't an immediate follow-up, altough though Rhodes may have been too far gone by that point. His liner notes are painfully earnest about "how hard it is to do this" and so on.

I've not investigated anything by Emitt Rhodes beyond the Merry-Go-Round cd that Rev-Ola issued a few years ago, and I loved that. Are any of his Dunhill LPs on CD at all?

Farewell To Paradise is, I've got a copy...prolly hard to find, though...certainly worth it, less Macca-esque than his earlier stuff...

The Rhodes Dunhill albums were out on CD from One-Way, but are long OOP. Both Varese Sarabande and Edsel have done best of's (the edsel one even has all the tracks from the s/t album), but whaddaya know, they are also OOP.

*Paging Hip-O Select*

No not Hip-0 Select, Emmit Rhodes should be in print longer than a month... (I only have the s/t plus a single of "Really Wanted You," myself.)

...maybe Sundazed should be the ones reissuing Emitt Rhodes, not some label like Hip-O Select or Rhino Handmade who will only have it around for a day.

"His liner notes are painfully earnest about "how hard it is to do this" and so on."

those were rough years for him!

Not a lot of competition in the one-man-band field those days, I would imagine. Rundgren & McCartney and who else?

Wasn't he contracted to produce a new album of materia every six months, or something ridiculous like that? Hard to do on your own.

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http://www.onemanband.org/omb-photo/one_man_band-aeroclube-stage.jpg

Er, that should have been 'material'. Obviously.

Not a lot of competition in the one-man-band field those days, I would imagine. Rundgren & McCartney and who else?

Stevie Wonder and John Fogerty (Blue Ridge Rangers).

Well, Fogerty was still a year or two away from making "solo" records, wasn't he? (And Stevie needed somebody to play bass, or at least program his Moog to do so.)

Isn't Emmit's Farewell LP from '73? Well, so was Fogerty's Blue Ridge Rangers record, which he played and sang everything on, so he was definitely in the one-man band competition.

Hmmm, you're probably right - I'm only familiar with the self-titled album. Maybe I've got the chronology wrong.

Your're both right. There's overlap, but Rhodes started his one-man band in 1970, if I'm not mistaken.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/393407.jpg

Does anybody know if the Longbranch Pennywhistle record has ever been reissued? I've never heard it.

Okay, they weren't from the West Coast, they were from the UK, but if Christie's "Yellow River" ain't a country rock classic, then Linda Ronstadt has hair on her teeth. The album of the same name wasn't much, but the song itself is what 1970-era Byrds SHOULD have sounded like.

I don't get the Hip-O Select hate. Haven't they only sold out of, what, like one title so far during their existence? Although yes it probably would be better if Sundazed or Rev-Ola handled the Rhodes solo joints.

I don't hate Hip-O Select (or Rhino Handmade) per se, I guess it's just the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't aspect that fucks with me. But if you say Hip-O has only sold out of one title, then I believe you. I just figured both of these labels' catalogs were only available for a short period of time.

A few months back I finally happened into a vinyl copy of Farewell To Paradise... Is it just me, or was he actually getting better as he went on?

Hmmmmmm, the more rocking stuff on that album is kinda boring to me, the ballads are nice, some of his best songs are definitely on that album tho

I listened to Emitt Rhodes and Mirror again this afternoon. Both solid, with some good rockers on the latter ("Really Wanted You" just screams 'hit single')

Now Playing:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/315F1A2TR4L._SS500_.jpg

So great. It's like mash-up of Astral Weeks and Histoire de Melody Nelson coated with nice dash of LA grime.

RFI: any suggestions of stuff in the vein of the L.A. Getaway album? next time i DJ i want to build a set around that particular sound. i know about some of the more well known artists but i'm looking to add in some more obscure (run, surmounter!) music from that same style.

this thread makes me angry coz i still can't find that d@mn corbett & hirsh album! I suspect I'll be posting the same thing every three months until 2011...

well, according to amazon, the tags associated with that LA Getaway album are:

classic rock (95)
john mayer (66)
taylor hicks (65)
definitive 200 (62)
white stripes (62)
david gilmour (47)
american idol (46)
pink floyd (45)
rock (42)
squeeze (1)

the gospel, blues rock immediately makes me think of the Band although they don't really sound all that much alike. and maybe a bit of the Terry Melcher s/t album

man i just love that john phillips album mentioned in the original post
been listening to that and the first crosby album over and over, perfect for the warm weather

i still can't find that d@mn corbett & hirsh album!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mike-Corbett-Jay-Hirsh-Rock-Vinyl-LP-Record_W0QQitemZ260224098283QQihZ016QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

Thanks. I was really hoping to get it digitally and not pay this much, but I think it's probably worth the hassle for me by now.

Anyway, about LA Getaway, haven't thought it through, but what about Bobby Whitlock's self-titled album? Maybe a little too southern fried.

Eric Clapton's 461 Ocean Boulevard

^^^^^is this good? i love the cover art haha

gonna pick up that Country Funk re-issue, sounds very buffalo springfield

i have the album. it's just ok. pretty Byrds-y. need to rescreen it

Other Music has a couple of samples up, totally hits my sweet spot

As above, what comes to mind re L.A. Getaway is like Grin & Crazy Horse & such. The Carp album with Gary Busey gets into that territory a little bit, too.

fyi: very good album that you can probably find cheap and that belongs on this thread (and i can't remember if i mentioned it here before):

http://www.coolforever.com/temp/redeye_redeye_lp.jpg

redeye (1971 - pentagram records)

hadn't played it in a while and put it on the other day and if anything i like it more than ever. great guitars. great harmonies. cool poppy tunes with a western/cali vibe.

sorry, 1970.

and i REALLY need their second album. that one came out in 1971. i figure i'll find one eventually.

the one lone rateyourmusic review pretty much says it all:

"Stoned cowboy music similar to the Bead Game or a more psychedelic America, this one is a minor classic. They must've pressed a shitload of these, as factory sealed copies still show up for 10 bucks or so. Heads'll approve of the grass related subject matter on many of the tunes, and squares'll dig the CSN inspired harmonies, so really, for 5 or 10 you can't go wrong, can you?"

That one just plain *looks* like a winner. Potheadedness is generally a plus with this kind of music.

Do you guys know THE MUSKRATS "Progressive Country" LP? That one rules. I have a UK press, not sure if the band was Brtiish or not.. Good stuff. Nice harmonies.

I also just got the 2nd P F Sloan LP. I wish his records were easier to find, though this one was QUITE affordable.

http://wanderer.spb.ru/images/wanderer.w5720.big.jpg

Cleaned and then jammed out to the first side of this before work this morning.

And this one did the trick last night:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51J8MRZERFL._SS500_.jpg

Slightly weaker than his debut. Kind of Neil Youngesque. David Lindley, Ben Keith, and of course David Crosby assist.

I just picked up a 2nd copy of "Gypsy Cowboy"--this one is for my pal.

Also, I mentioned it on the vinyl thread, but this '79 private I picked up the other day is KILLER. "Slain By An Angel" by Steve Haggard. No relation to Merle, as far as I can tell. Dedicated to Gram Parsons, with a full band that actually play really well together. Some dope fuzz leads on a few tracks.

I also just got the 2nd P F Sloan LP. I wish his records were easier to find, though this one was QUITE affordable.

I was just looking at Ace records website, and they've got a "Best of The Dunhill Years 1965-1967" Sloan comp in the pipeline. Maybe individual titles to come?

can't remember if i or anyone else mentioned this one, but it was born to be here, marlin greene's one and only album (i think) *Tiptoe Past The Dragon*. playing it now, i'd forgotten how great it was. such a beautiful stoned cowboy vibe. recorded in L.A. and Muscle Shoals, and Memphis. 1972. Elektra. so breezy and nice. and varied too with lots of great production touches. you can probably find it cheap too.

http://www.geocities.jp/hideki_wtnb/marlin-g.jpg

oh i also picked up the third burrito brothers album the other day, but i haven't played it yet. the first parsons-less one.

another good one i picked up the other day:

http://www.soundfinder.jp/image_item/529143_1_30229190.jpg

moon martin's old band! good rural rock with nice guitars.

From a recent post on Rolling Country:

Dwight Yoakam just finished a good bandshell(good band, too) version of "No One Else Can Make Me Do The Things You Do," which made my Nash Scene Top Ten last year. Is his Buck And Be Proud album good? Just got through my first listen to reissue of Yellow Hand's s/t from 1970.They do a bunch of Stills and Young songs from a Buffalo Springfield album that never did come out, it sez here (so they're on the bootleg of Stampede?) I think Neil did release a later version of "Down To The Wire." That's the one where the four-part close harmonies kinda crowd me, plus they sound particularly in there between the Grassroots and Three Dog Night, just this combination of by-the-numbers and overemphasis. But, if you've got any tolerance for Stills early solo and Manassas stuff, this is mostly like that (still chunky harmonies, but with a touch of plaintiveness/querulousness to balance the manliness, and allowing the lyrics to come through just enough, so personality simulated, but dumb complaints and inspiration not heard too clearly)(also get Neil's sufficently stylish, punky bitchy folk-rock putdowns on "Sell Out)." And Delaney Bramlett/Mac Davis "God Knows I Love You," which coulda maybe shoulda been a hit for somebody. Also, the lead singer, Jerry Tawney, steps up front on some okay self-writs, and "My World Needs You" would be good for Gary Puckett. (After our recent exchange, I saw G.P. in an ad for Biloxi's Hard Rock Casino, with David Allan Coe and Stevie Nicks! All on different nights, dang it). Yellow Hand's drummer keeps rushing and then almost stumbling over the beat, and mostly they do seem more singers than players, but overall seems okay.

Last night on Tonight Show, Kathleen Edwards was not only totally cute, but a live ringer for one of my best friends, but her song was longwinded/monotonous Petty knockoff (later learned her new album is co-produced by Petty-associate Jim Scott, who brought in Benmont Tench, Don Heffington, Bob Glaub--which could be good with the right songs o course, but could easliy get merely retro). Still haven't heard the album, but right now she's doing a very vibrant set of songs from it on World Cafe (might be *some* older ones, but anyway so far so good--gotten away from her early Lucinda imitations, but obviously learned from that, and was good even when imitating, least on the ones I heard)

Now she's got this cool gliding thing behind cowboy-surf guitar, oooweee--uh oh, here we go into the one she overdid last night--

I just got Shawn Phillips Contribution and I'm really loving it. It's like half Dylan/McCartney folk-pop collabo, half ornate Tim Buckley shit. I need to just start buying everything on A&M from the 70s cause I haven't heard a bad thing yet.

There's lots of Herb Alpert and Burt Bacharach for you to enjoy there.

1978 Chuck Mangione Children of Sanchez

1978 Styx Pieces of Eight

awesome

srsly alpert was a charitable dude doing hippie commune shit like Sweetwater

children of sanchez is some crazy shit. double lp mangione concept stuff.

i still need some of those late 70's shawn phillips albums. not that i'm in any hurry...but i'm curious. and i'm kinda curious about his mid-60's trad folk stuff too.

i like contribution and second contribution, but "L Ballade" is so much better to me than any other song on those albums. it really stands out.

Seems like I always see Shawn Phillips stuff in teh used bins. I've still got an unheard pile of this stuff from my last dollar digging adventure. Solo Ritchie Furay anyone?

What I've really been digging lately is Spirit and the Beau Brummels.

Anyone here ever check out Gene Vincent's LPs on Kama Sutra at the end of the sixties? The one I heard -- a S/T -- would fit in nicely on this thread. I never knew Gene "turned on" before checking out that particular LP, but the dude could bust out some hippie-roots-country-psych-vibes with the best of 'em.

they are both good. i think he made two albums around then? they've reissued one or both, i think.

i was just listening to john kay's contribution to country rock on dunhill! solo album. i don't know...maybe i should check out the second side. there must be at least a decent break beat on the thing.

shawn phillips "contribution" is probably my all time favorite album cover. great record too. i've got probably 3-5 other records of his and they're all pretty listenable.

he's got one though - Spaced - which is so different. it's pretty much a really spaced electronic jazz funk album. heavy drums and a few breaks. check this track (i've been meaning to put together a funky folk mix for a while and this song will be on there) http://matthewafrica.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-dont-want-to-leave.html There's also a dj shadow sample on the album.

actually, that's second contribution that i love the cover of
http://www.modernguitars.com/imagefiles/shawnphillips/SPSecondContribution1970.gif

he also played guitar on two of my favorite psych folk albums by italian Armando Piazza.

What's the Souther-Hillman-Furay Band record like? Something about it gave me bad vibes.

I do want to check out the Chris Hillman solo LPs though. I passed on a mid-price copy of Slippin' Away at the weekend. Is that one of his better albums?

i was just listening to john kay's contribution to country rock on dunhill! solo album. i don't know...maybe i should check out the second side. there must be at least a decent break beat on the thing.

i like his cover of "bold marauder," it's like a grim drinking song and appropriately blustery (john kay after all). that record overall is pretty bland, though.

What's the Souther-Hillman-Furay Band record like? Something about it gave me bad vibes.

The first one is decent. It's a little less country-rock than you'd think. All three were definitely dabbling the kind of jazzy Latin coke jams that Stills was all about by the mid '70s. If you haven't already, I'd dig into the Poco discog first, as well as Souther's first album, which has some pretty darn good moments.

Jaxon, I LOVE Shawn Phillips. Man, what a talent. I recently discovered that Helios Creed of Chrome name dropped Phillips when someone asked him about his singing style. I thought that was pretty cool. I wrote a piece on Phillips for the Cleveland Scene. He's an interesting dude. He lives in South Africa, where's he an ocean paramedic/rescue type person. He does all kinds of dangerous stunts to save people. He's in great shape for his age. I would link to the piece, but alas, it was published before the recent sale of the paper, so the archive is no longer online.

"I passed on a mid-price copy of Slippin' Away at the weekend. Is that one of his better albums?"

slippin' away is good. so is clear sailin'.

the albums i never play are his desert rose band records. i've got a few of them.

i think i have the first souther-hillman-furay album. i think... can't remember much about it.

i don't have any of the mcguinn/clark.hillman albums either.

and no i don't own the hillmen record or the scottsdale squirrel barkers album either.

i do own a cool record on, i think, crown records, called *the 12 string story* featuring an instrumental by a young jim mcguinn though.

new Giant Sand, proVision, on Yep Roc (Sept.2), with Gelb's Danish friends from his Arizona Amp project, plus Neko Case, Isobell Campbell, M. Ward. Dancier than I'd ever expected of a Gelb thang, in a ghost town way. Not bad atall.

I meant to post about the family of apostolic earlier but then I got distracted tracking down that lambert & nuttycombe album.

christian psych-folk-rock from '68 that is pretty reet. the guy behind it put the whole thing up for download:
http://www.astrococktail.com/familyofapostolic.html

reading about it now I guess it was east coast not west coast? it sounded west coast to me tho.

the only howe gelb thing i own is the OP8 album with lisa germano. i like that album a lot. i've never even HEARD a giant sand record.

so many of scotts posts consist of him exclaiming how he has never heard anything by anybody.

nuh uh, i've heard lots of stuff.

who's that other neil young guy, doug whatshisname, i've never heard one of those either. i saw him live on HBO though.

henning.

doug marsch? (SP??)

kershaw?

i've never heard a sebadoh album either.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/mattlore/CP-10-DougHenningB.jpg

danny did i tell you that thurston and j mascis came into the record store here and all they bought were leon russell albums. they've been reading this thread and now they are trying to be all cool.

according to you you haven't heard anything..except what you have heard

they are goin backwards from obsxkuritysts to fanciers of piano men..it will never make them cool..bigger nerds yes..but not cool..i love leon tho

julia cafritz and kim came in and all they wanted was a caravan album.

"I'm gonna need a stepladder to reach that Leo Sayer record"
http://www.groundcontroltouring.com/CAT/thurstonmoore/gallery/Promo/thurston1.jpg

John Stewart! "Gold"!!

danny did i tell you that thurston and j mascis came into the record store here and all they bought were leon russell albums. they've been reading this thread and now they are trying to be all cool.

It's about time indie rock started giving Leon some hipster handshakes.

Which Leon(s) did they get? I bet Kings Of Leon's name is a tribute to him. I never heard that Asylum Choir album with the logo on toilet paper, but the other one I liked at the time, esp. "Down On The Base," good song to hear in a trailer in a military town. Didn't like his Hank Wilson albums, he sounded like he was chewing his beard too much. Say, I don't think of Giant Sand and/or Howe Gelb as a "Neil Young guy," cos he might get sentimental, but no pathos. Neil is more like the gentle Chet Baker simpleton with a brane upload (yes, Charly on the upswing).

i recently heard leon's "The Ballad of Hollis Brown" and fell in love, then realized i'd just sold that LP because i never listened to it. sounds like a weirdo electro dr john with crazy gospel screaming in the background

What album was that?! (oh yeah, think the spelling is "Doug Martsch"? Anyway, te Built To Spill)

both he and leo sayer did "high wire"..it was on th soundtrack to my theatrical role in Ridgefields Theater production of Hot L Baltimore..the whole play was scored to Sayer.

http://digilander.libero.it/ciao.2001/images/manifesti/m_leon_russell.JPG

Leon as Hotty http://img.skitch.com/20080402-4p6nufcffyjgxxj9a8uerhsu.preview.jpg

don

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/drc600/c655/c65571av4p5.jpg

http://therisingstorm.net/audio/mcguinnessflint.jpg

This is a fun record, a cross between early Traffic, the Band and some Stephen Stills-type moves

okay, now i'm gonna sound like a total country rock nerd, but benny gallagher and graham lyle were in mcguinness flint with, um, mcguiness and flint, and i actually like their albums better. which they recorded under the name...wait for it...gallagher and lyle!

I always get them mixed up with McKendree Spring. I don't know why. I 've never heard either of them.

I've heard both bands! see, my brother is wrong about me not hearing things.

mckendree spring were more jazzyprog. plus: ELECTRIC VIOLA. but good too. the first album is really good.

I second the Michael Nesmith rec. from way above (from four years ago). I recently stumbled upon Nevada Fighter (from 1971). It's really shockingly great and, like everyone says, nothing at all like the Monkees. I didn't even know he went country. Per wikipedia he along with Gram Parsons "is considered one of the pioneers of country-rock." Is he actually considered this? I knows I don't believes everything I read on Wikipedia and I've never heard that before.

so have we really not talked about William Truckaway yet on this thread ?? His album has been in heavy rotation for the last year or so since I picked it up (thanks Neil.) It's fucking amazing , mebbe not so much country, but certainly some sort of 'post-psych' poppy folk, or maybe poppy 'post-folk' 70s Psych ,,, not sure .. but the album ("Breakaway") completely rules. Why is NMH the only champ at this point?? but as always he picks a winner

Mountain Bus? we never talked about 'em ? I *finally* got the Akarma 2lp .. the mofo went out of print a while back. Oh sure, I had that EVA cd for ages... but I wanted to hear the *unreleased* material for the best private Dead-fan band of the 60s. Cambridge would be the 70s, right? their album totally rules too, all thanks to Skot.

but god, this Mountain Bus album ..

Mountain Bus "Rider" >>>>>> Dead "Rider" ... **EXCEPT** for those early '67/'68 Riders before the stupid China Cat medley ... back when Jerry was a completely amphetamine fueled strafe-bomber .. THEN, yes, the Dead's "Rider" was of course better ...

i actually think the cambridge album is perfect. every song is great. is there a cambridge reissue?????? i was actually gonna put it up on this thread as an MP3, cuz i didn't think most people had heard it.

Hehe, I went bought two Shawn Phillips lps yesterday: Second Contribution and Furthermore. Haven't listened to 'em yet tho.

http://www.gregsgrooves.com/imagesm-r/russellleon_carney.jpg

Not from Cali, but since Leon was mentioned up thread I thought I'd throw this out there. This is one weird-ass album. It's got swampy rn'b stomps like Out in the Woods, cracked psych ramblings like Acid Annapolis, and some very classic songs such as This Masquerade, Tightrope, Roller Derby, Magic Mirror. Not all of the thing works, I find Acid Annapolis hard to sit thorough, but enough does click that you ought to check it out.

It's one of my favorite covers too.

So yet anotherJohn Phillips comp hit the racks a few weeks ago. The core of this one is original mixes of tracks from Pay, Pack, and Follow, his lost Stones-assisted set. I never got around to picking up the original reissue, so I have no grounds to base it on vs. the new /old mixes. Anybody heard it?

BTW, the British branch of Rhino Encore recently dropped new editions of Bobby Charles (his Band-assisted lp from '72) and the first JD Souther album. I got the Bobby Charles album online for about 10 bucks. It's pretty good, perhaps a tad bit too mellow. I need to listen to it some more before I make a final judgement.

Speaking of ex-Mamas & Papas, I just got turned on to this Denny Doherty LP called "Whatcha Gonna Do." It's some great country rock. Less of a wasted/decadent vibe than "Wolfking."

I'm loving all this Sutherland Bros stuff. Just bought Lifeboat on ebayy, I think I like Dream Kid more though.

be there or be square:

Jim Kweskin and Geoff Muldaur
Katharine Cornell Theater
Saturday, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:00 PM

http://webmail.earthlink.net/wam/MsgAttachment?msgid=54207&attachno=1

special appearance by the ghost of mel lyman!

who says he's dead? ;)

no maria no credibility.

Rilo Kiley frontwoman Jenny Lewis is totally into this vibe on her fine new 2nd solo album, Acid Tongue

Anybody know anything about "Bill Dave & Mary" and their record Transition?

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, July 27, 2007 4:39 AM

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:00 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark

bought Frog City today. it is fucking awesome!

meant to post a link to this mix here and forgot to:

Skot's Sexy 70's Mix For Sailors, Searchers, and Seers

just cuz i think there is some crossover and such with this thread. for instance, the Sand song i put on this mix. totally hard to pick one song from their album cuz they all rule. great mix of poco/countryrock and ruralprogjam/westcoastjam stuff a la gypsy/wishbone ash/etc. (sand album the only album i own that is a two album set with two one-sided records.)

(um, this sand not being the krautrock one or the cool krautelectrojazz one that with that great album on souljazz. this one being the hippie one with a picture of a sandy sandwich on the cover of their album.)

okay, "aereoplane" is growing on me serious style.

"he used to bring home from HIGH SCHOOL"

Scott you HAVE to hear this I know you will love it

I was shocked at how great it is, honestly. Been playing it nonstop.

scott where are youuuuuuuuu

Has anybody else heard Pat Boone's Departure from '69? It's his "down w/the young people" baroque troubadour folk album (covers of Fred Neil, John Stewart, Biff Rose, Loudermilk and TIM BUCKLEY) produced by Jerry Yester (?) w/LA session cats all over the place. I found copy at a flea market recently and gave a listen yesterday. It's pretty good, albeit a little overproduced (particularly on one of the Stewarts--"Never Going Back"--but that's the track that skips on mine so hey.) The Buckley one--"Song of The Siren"--is great, aside from a little pirate talk from Pat at the beginning. AMG sez the sets never been on cd.

During the same trip I also picked up the two 70s efforts from Austin's Greezy Wheels (s/t aka "Juz loves dem ol' Greezy Wheels" & Radio Radials) which fit under this threads banner quite well in a jazzy sort of way.

i have a greezy wheels album, but i don't even remember what it sounds like. i'll try it again.

so, i made a tape sung to the tune of this thread, but i just gotta find it and put it on the interweb. a mix of stuff that i've ranted about on here.

please do!

Also, The Flame album (that Shakey posted above) is still available for d/l and it's definitely worth a listen.

^^^haha I was just about to ask...

i will get to it. i've been busy!

what do you have a store to run or something

i think this is one of the best ever ILM threads. sentiment expressed in the OP sums it up basically wrt my interest in this stuff now. so weird how i know that i've been exposed to this stuff before but ignored/hated on/passed over it for all these years. fortunately here is this goldmine of a thread for me to search through

word i've been fishing around in this thread lately too

one of the funnest things about having a music addiction is getting bored with everything i've ever listened to before and forcing myself to open up and listen to music that i thought i'd never listen to (country, commercial hip hop & pop, disco, soft rock) or stuff that i've always known about but skimmed over.

^^kinda one of the truer things ever said on ilm

yup

what i like about jax and also ian is those dudes are so invaluable in their knowledge of music and so generous in their appreciation. the most positive music dudes on the board imo.

n/h

I've been getting into that Phil Sawyer album which is on teh blogs atm (i guess due to it being reissued)

May be that i'm more inclined to get into it coz it's AUSSIE, but there's some gorgeous stuff on it imo.

cool!

funny thing is i already have a whole lot of this stuff. couple years ago i went on a few trips w/ buddies to some library surplus stores and bought TONS of it, pretty much all of which has sat on my shelves until recently. love love love how so much of this stuff is widely available and cheap

listening to ned doheny debut on asylum. i guess they were hoping for another jackson browne. it's nice though. VERY light and mellow el lay southern/folk/jazz/rock. very california.

― scott seward, Sunday, 6 January 2008 22:37 (1 year ago)

liking this lately.

have i talked about that Robert Byrne album on here? Blame It On The Night? doesn't exactly fit here, but I think people here would dig it. Byrne was a big country songwriter (who died not that long ago i think of an OD or something) and this album was his one solo shot. Came out in 1979 and was almost immediately pulled by Mercury. unfortunately, the only cd issue of it is a pricy japanese version. their westcoast love knows no bounds. and the byrne album is big in their canon. it skirts/invades yacht rock territory, but it's just such a smooth El Lay blend of great songwriting/production. and it was recorded in muscle shoals, cuz that's where byrne did his work. so, El Lay by way of Alabama. and it's not country at all. despite byrne being a highly paid and highly successful country writer. you can probably find it on a blog or something. yer gonna have to be a smooooooth 70's fan to dig it though. just so you know.

http://rs442.rapidshare.com/files/148571954/Robert_Byrne___1979__Blame_it_on_the_night.Cult_AOR.mp3.rar

sorry:

http://rs442.rapidshare.com/files/148571954/Robert_Byrne_-__1979__Blame_it_on_the_night.Cult_AOR.mp3.rar

i've been digging the Jamme album this week. merseybeat cowboy hat pop produced by john phillips (and terry melcher) mostly in 1968, but only released by dunhill in 1972! so, someone buying it in 1972 might have suffered some small flashbacks. sounds really good to me now though. they were an actual band, but the album ends up being a mishmash of band members and people like larry knechtel and jim gordon. you can read the convoluted story here:

http://www.myspace.com/jammeclassics

oh, and Rockin' Foo, i've been playing them this week. Rockin' Foo definitely belong here. i got there 2nd album on Uni. both Rockin' Foo albums are self-titled, i think. the one on Hobbit and the one on Uni. anyway, they were cool. and rural and all that.

and, i've been playing Marrying Maiden by It's A Beautiful Day. that one has Jerry all over it. playing pedal steel and banjo.

and, i've been playing two records on the Evolution label. one by Game and the other by Steel River. I was gonna sell the Steel River album, but i dig it.

david crosby solo album is fantastic. jerry's on that one a little too. wish there'd been another one during that era

i got a copy of the Rockin' Foo LP on Hobbit a couple years back but it didn't do much for me. In fact i found it kinda painful to listen to. Certainly no Plain Jane! but, I always did wonder why there was an album on Uni that was also self-titled. Wasn't sure if it was a second issue of the Hobbit album or what..

found a sealed copy of the Mike Corbitt & Jay Hirsch lp at the record fair on Saturday. 10 bucks, not that bad. still holding out for a reasonably priced Mr. Flood's Party sometime in my lifetime.

haven't seen any mention of sixto rodriguez here. totally worth people's time
http://www.myspace.com/rodriguezsugarman
he's from detroit via mexico, so doesn't really count, but sort of does, too

here's a case of me underrating something that i now really dig: the Farquahr album on elektra. or maybe it just fits my mood right now. i like jerry ragovoy's big booming production, and the harmonies are great. "hanging on by a thread" is a killer song too. plus, how can you not enjoy a well-crafted folk/country rock album made by four guys named Barnswallow, Hummingbird, Condor, and Flamingo Farquahr?

it makes me want to hear the 60's Fabulous Farquahr album on Verve. anyone have that? same dudes, i think. less country, as far as i can tell from descriptions.

imported from Rolling Country (our discussion of early frontrunners ofr Top Ten:
Chris Darrow's twofer, s/t with Under My Own Disguise. from the early 70s, post- or late-psychedelic folk/country rock I'd say: he reaps the whirlwind, under inpenterable cloud cover, but re-orientation is no prob: dense but clear, as xgau said of Meltzer's best writing, And no up-in-lights oh wow factor, cause no lights. Lots of stuff going on, but mainly what gets me is voice-keyboards-bass-drums in the pocket, like on Fotheringay 2, Jessi Colter's Out Of The Ashes, Tell Tale Signs (and some other Dylan tracks, much older than Tell Tale Signs' outtakes, like "Ballad of a Thin Man"/"Dear Landlord"/"Down Along The Cove"/"If Dogs Run Free"/"Dirge") Vocally, a bit like Michael Nesmith, but this guy can hold a note as long as he wants to, and flex it too (might be some of that Middle Eastern in his alma mater, Kaleidoscope, but he always sounds like a cowboy, incl in UK with maybe some of the same people on Fotheringay 2, come to think of it-- although some of the "UK" vibe turns out to be from the L.A. sessions, and vice versa)
-dow

for some reason it really bothers me that jason doesn't like manassas

thread definitely needs more love for manassas

ooh, i LOVE the s/t Chris Darrow record. I haven't heard the other one though, so maybe this twofer will be a rare CD i will buy.

got this recently, it's really good:

http://users.skynet.be/fa388247/windmills.jpg

The Darrow reissue is on vinyl too, but it is $$$.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7166/32447762.jpg

has Morning been mentioned yet on this thread? it's sort of a side project of Jay Donnellan, who played guitar with Love's second lineup, and Jim Hobson, who played keyboards on Love's Out Here album. I've only listened to the s/t album a couple times, but at its best the band comes across as a very drowsy CSNY, or a hipster honky-tonk act along the lines of the Flying Burrito Bros. (circa their third album) & some of Chris Hillman's other extra-Byrds projects. afaik the s/t (and the follow-up, which I haven't heard) has never been reissued, and it seems to only exist on a couple obscuro mp3 blogs.

i'd like to apologize to the new riders of the purple sage for not mentioning them more on this thread. or maybe they are too well known and obvious? listening to Gypsy Cowboy just now...man, is there a song as cool as "death and destruction"?

i like the two rick roberts albums i have. they are good and he also had a hand - like ned doheney - in making other cali people's records cool.

and speaking of rick roberts, other than the burrito brothers he's best known for starting firefall. but i don't think i own any firefall albums. you'd think i would have, like, five of them.

i bid on that Morning album once on ebay. got outbid.

i kinda wish there were some japanese people on this thread so i could talk to them about david riordan albums and ask them what the deal is with that warehouse sound company & friends album that he had a hand in.

no offense to the people already here of course you are all lovely...

oh but i do like some of the dfa/lcd stuff. and that is rocker dance, no? mostly i fell in love with the yeah single. that thing was just undeniable.

whoops wrong thread.

Any love for Chip Taylor's Last Chance? does it even belong here? Very cool country-rock record......

Christgau on Frummox:

FRUMMOX: Here to There (Probe) Pretentious cowboy music? Yes, pretentious cowboy music. C MINUS

This record is fine imho and would probably be enjoyed by many of you.

i think only christgau stans, all 53 of them, should ever listen to what that dude says

christgau is my reliable bizarro critic. kinda like david denby. if they don't like it, chances are, i will. and if they really like it, i stay away.

the dude pioneered the negative snark style of writing about music & even shit he likes he's gotta zing. it's pretty weak and cowardly imo. i don't want to turn this thread into talking about that, though.

Yeah, let's continue to talk about entertaining stoner cowboys:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/itsaboutmusic/early-poco.jpg

yer right, proceed.

i found the tape mix i made for this thread! now i just gotta upload it to da web.

(x-post)

And like how I finally broke down and bought that Illinois Speed Press album (the first one) that had been taunting me for months on end at the used record store, then filed it and forgot about it cause I was tired when I got home that day, eventually getting around to playing it and after all that not really feeling it at all.

yes! i was just going to ask about that mix!

hell yes, scott, can't wait

i really like that first illinois speed press album. it's got a little bit of everything on it.

I probably need to give it another spin. It just wasn't what I was expecting (byrds/poco/nesmith-style country rock). I did like the guitar playing.

it's got more of a hard-rocking/psychhippie vibe, i always thought. but that shouldn't scare you. you like that stuff.

xpost I've got several Chip Taylor solo albums I haven't played yet, but I *really really* like the sets he's done on public radio shows with Carrie Rodriquez, mostly cos I *really really* like her (with him haven't heard her solo) They even do this hilarious song about how to seduce a country-folkie etc person with red wine 'n' Prine (actually it sounds like something Lee Hazlewood might've done, Chip's growling an all)

Also, don't know how this might sound on CD, but the LP of Buffalo Springfield's Last Time Around really suits this thread (even or especially because they were pretty much broken up then and, but with songs and orchestration and session pickers etc as links x conduits x barriers, like some of the later Beatles albums, but with more upfront/consistent use of the rueful reverie vibe, it's good unified variety and you can tell they've been through a lot but are still young)