65daysofstatic

What do they sound like? this from www.playlouder.com/feature/%2B65daysofstatic/:

"We all love to compare bands to other bands, categorising and pigeonholing them to make life that bit easier. Hacks in particular feel smarmy being able to show off their great musical knowledge, so when a band as original and special as 65daysofstatic comes along, they make our job that bit harder by deliberately flaunting some cross-pollinated-alien sound. We give them rubbish descriptions. "Yeah, they’re Mogwai vs. Squarepusher, fistfucking Venetian Snares playing chess with Godspeed! You Black Emperor." The truth is it’s hard to nail down exactly what who, if anyone, they sound like"

I remember seeing them at the (excellent) 2002 Dustpunk night in Sheffield, they really rocked, quite a shock, was expecting to be staring at guys with laptops all night.

They've got a drummer now?! Do they still use electronic beats on the CD?

Great to see all the old tefosav guys doing well now, Digitonal especially, the guy is awesome!

i hate to make a bad statement about 65DOS as i was involved with them when they first started, but i think you're right. haven't heard their latest stuff but i'd say they need to update their sound a little. would've worked better in 1999, but the beats are a bit derivative of primetime Warp meets Mogwai. They have the potential to be what they want to be but just need a little fuel injection.

i hate to make a bad statement about 65DOS as i was involved with them when they first started, but i think you're right. haven't heard their latest stuff but i'd say they need to update their sound a little. would've worked better in 1999, but the beats are a bit derivative of primetime Warp meets Mogwai. They have the potential to be what they want to be but just need a little fuel injection.

I can listen to "fall of math" and "one time for all time" repeatedly and it hits home for me, much like MBV did when I first heard them.

I dont think they're "groundbreaking" - im 35 ffs, I've heard every other band they sound like. But they somehow pull some disparate elements together *just right* and - to me anyway - are a glorious hammering sound of heaven.

YMMV, I suppose. Sad to see ILM is so dried up and cynical.

That said, to be constructive, some of the beat ideas have been done before. I think I'm becoming allergic to drill'n'bass noises having overdosed on them in 2001.

I don't even know what is happening to them now - they seem to have fractured beyond any solid form. Shame really.

Eggzackly. I didn't say they sucked. Although I'm not really fussed on them either way. But some of the reviews of them I've read are fucking *absurd*

Does anyone still have a copy of that bootleg they made back in 2002? It was on boomselection, and I downloaded it at the time, but now I've lost it.

It's a track where they mash up loads of records to make the sound of '65'. They used to use it as the track they came onstage to.

i'd like to see them live; i imagine they fucking rock.

Oh my god this album is INCREDIBLY GOOD. I love it. I love it. "Eastern European Dance Parties" especially.

The first 5 seconds of that song are almost impossible to top.

By any other first 5 seconds, I mean. The rest of the song matches it effortlessly.

I am in love with this record. Intense, epic, ecstatic. End of the world "lets fuck because there's nothing left" kind of atmosphere. Quiet passages building and building into explosions of hammering blissful wall of noise.

Oh yeah baby.

(See, i dont see the Threads-esqe "terrifying" thing at all, oddly, I find this sort of music rather sexy. But thats me).

No, I'm not saying the music is like Threads - I'm saying it's partly caused by it, rather than describing it.

Ah ok - either way I do see where you're coming from in that regard. "Dead Flag Blues" by G!YBE has a similar conceptual feel, perhaps more overtly.

Its almost 5am, I'm depressed, tipsy, and strung out, and this album is sounding like manna from the gods to me right now, bless its crystal heart.

It's a special record.

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/interview/65daysofstatic.htm

SICK MOUTHY: ZEITGEIST-CREATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

Aside from that awesome revelation, I share the 65DOS guy's enthusiasm for the forthcoming Youthmovie Soundtrack Strategies record. I have a sneaky feeling that it might be one of the greats. Their EP definitely shows a band more or less capable of anything.

I don't know quite that I'm a zeitgeist-creator, but it is incredibly fulfilling to know that something I wrote actually had a tangible effect and encouraged people to make music in a different and, I think, better way.

And just over a year ago I wrote an article for Stylus about the evil that is dynamic range compression, which has proven to be quite a big thing. It started off as just me listening to records and being pissed off with them.

Is that the article about The Flaming Lips and the cymbals on The Killers’ album?

Yeah.

That’s actually the article that inspired us to make this album the way we made it.

Holy shit Nick! Thats amazing!

What can you cook?

Oh loads of stuff. Actually I can cook a mean scrambled eggs;!

That’s good, cos scrambled eggs is difficult. Do you use a saucepan or microwave?

That is less than amazing.

If you were in “Aqua Teen Hunger Force,” what anthropomorphized fast food item would you be?

What the hell’s “Aqua Teen Hunger Force”?

I only heard of it the other day and now it fascinates me. It’s an ‘adult cartoon’ on the Cartoon Network featuring a nasty milkshake, a stupid meat patty, and a magic bag of chips, or something. So which anthropomorphized fast food item would you be?

Joe sounds like a really awesome nice guy from that interview as well :)

That is less than amazing.

In fairness Nick did say they were "silly" questions :)

That doesn't justify microwaving eggs or sounding like my dad!

But all that aside I wonder if I would like this band.

I think I would like them or really hate them.

1. Aqua Teen is grebt and I don't understand how it isn't being broadcast to brits round the world

2. Yeah, Joe is unabashedly awesome.

Joe most definitely was a really awesome nice guy, as was Paul and the drummer. The bassist, Si, didn't really say anything and reminded me a bit of Paul Bettany in Da Vinci Code...

I don't think I like this very much.

I like it enough for two people, so that's OK.

Oh, good.

It's very busy and breathless, not a lot of hooks (either melody-wise or in the beats)?

It's postrock?! That's what it's meant to be like! And I actually find an awful lot of breathing space in it, though; the breathing space is kind of the point.

Yeah, but it's kind of empty breathing space. It's time where there is not frantic loud stuff happening, but isn't really interesting in its own right?

Anyway, I guess the post-rock is a lot more interested in hip-hop, beats, prettiness, minimalism, and all that. This is more like Mars Volta with added synths & drum machines, which is cool and all but not my thing.

should be "the post-rock I like"

(so basically I like Tortoise and Four Tet, not Godspeed and Mogwai)

This is more like Mars Volta with added synths & drum machines, which is cool and all but not my thing.

exactly the comparison made in rubbish rocksound review, now don't get me wrong, i like the mars volta, but this is patently untrue and moreover unfair.

and there are PLENTY of hooks. unexpected ones too. the second half is essentially a load of really awesome hooks jammed together!

finally, godspeed + mogwai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tortoise and four tet, so we may have to ATD here. :(

oh, and as for breathing space where a lot happens, check out track seven (Music Is Music As Devices Are Kisses Is Everything) for a minimalist, subtle journey of quite heartbreaking dimensions.

subtle journey of quite heartbreaking dimensions.

Dude, you are really not helping yourself here

I'm DRUNK goddammit, gimme a break

What I meant to say is that track seven (whose title I supply above) uses the lower end of the dynamic scale in order to create a system of harmonies which contrast dramatically and movingly, without ever recoursing to gratuitous noise or shock tactics, and the resulting song is one of the more affecting I've heard so far this year.

you make it sound as exciting as Girlfriend!

Tortoise & Four Tet >> Mogwai & Godspeed.

dammit nick

Actually...

Talk Talk > Bark Psychosis > Disco Inferno > Four Tet > 65dos > Tortoise > Mogwai > Godspeed. Wioth loads of others jammed in there too.

Lift To Experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Godspeed.

Califone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mogwai.

maybe my tastes have matured and i need to give them another go, but they didn't do all that much for me at the time, whereas mogwai and godspeed have written some of my favourite albums!

YEAH OK I'LL BUY A CALIFONE RECORD

how do i shot D.I. Go Pop

rather shamefully, i am also yet to procure Hex, partially because Codename:Dustsucker is so perfect

actually, i'll confess: i've not really heard much four tet, only about two songs

Pause by Four Tet is wonderful.

I got into Tortoise via Standards rather than the usual route (Millions Now Living, I guess); that might be more up your street. I'm still not massively into them.

I quite like Standards (and still own it), but TNT did absolutely nothing for me. Standards has a few really, really neat tricks up its sleeve, for instance all of Seneca, the ambient-to-funky puzzle that is Benway, the beat in Eros, the actually-scary Eden segments, the almost straight-up rock-song 'Monica', and the choruses of 'Speakeasy', which are hugely relaxing and above all cool. I need to listen to it again. My problem with it is that it doesn't really stir my soul, but it's still good music.

Califone is post-rock?

I believe there will be a piece on Stylus suggesting so tomorrow, aye.

I love "Music is Music" as well, second fave track after "Dance Parties" but geez, I'm not going to write a restaurant review about it.

I spent loads of last night playing 65dos loudly while drunk, its fantastic music to just lose yourself in and forget troubles.

I also made a point of paying attention to the dynamic production differences Nick and the band talk about, and yeah, I can see it completely now - everything blasted and turned up to 11 (which is awesome in itself) vs a nice textured complex soundscape.

restaurant review? you wound me!

today on my radio show i cut from battles' 'snare hangar' into 65DOS' 'the distant and mechanised glow of eastern european dance parties' and it was like modern music feinted with the left hook and knocked me flat with the right uppercut

I'm just pissin with ya, Louis :)

And that Battles/65dos 1-2 sounds like a great idea, ima try that when I get home, damn why didnt I bring Battles to work.

those two records will come to symbolise 2007 for me, for reasons already made clear (human -> robot versus robot -> human).

OMG nick i suggest you take a look at this

http://www.gigwise.com/contents.asp?contentid=32171

if there's one thing worse than a shit review, it's a cut-and-paste job...

A VERY harsh email is being sent to his editor.

The thief.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=14747723

God its really obvious what he has done too! Your bit reads really well and his other bits are shit, and have spelling errors and everything, jesus. Why do people think they can get away with this?

The editor has apologised profusely and removed the offending piece.

I actually find this kind of amusing.

Haha awesome!

The editor has just emailed to compliment me on my Kaiser Cheifs review. This is a very strange day.

Everything's coming up youhaus!

haha, that's quick work! at least he didn't steal MY bit about robots and humans... ;-)

lol @ busted gigwise sycophancy

from lol @ indie emily thread:

I'm interested in the generally cack-handed critical reaction to the record anyway

So very true. WTF are people on? If I see the phrase 'flat production' on more time in reference to dynamic quiet-loud production, I will do my top. Furthermore, people seem confused by what the record is doing. No longer the meat-and-potatoes post-rock of their previous releases, they've instead found something original and initially confusing (for non-audiophiles). Reviewers just aren't giving the record enough chances. It's as if you raise someone on Sigur Ros and then plonk Talk Talk's Laughing Stock in front of them as the new Sigur Ros (to offer a crude comparison); they'll simply look at you quizzically and then turn it off. People need to open their minds and approach this record from a more forgiving angle.

Or, as has become my catchphrase, "get a better stereo".

A friend of mine works at last.fm - I've told him countless times that I think he's helping destroy music by encouraging people to listen through a computer.

Reviewers just aren't giving the record enough chances. It's as if you raise someone on The Kooks and then plonk The Go Betweens' Before Hollywood in front of them as the new The Kooks (to offer a crude comparison); they'll simply look at you quizzically and then turn it off. People need to open their minds and approach this record from a more forgiving angle.

Haha, I've been listening through a stereo myself a lot more recently, not even bothering to upload my recent purchases onto my iTunes. And even when I do listen through a computer, I make sure it's hooked up to my stereo speakers via the auxiliary input. More people should at least be encouraged to do this.

acrobat, i'm not impressed, and i'll be less so if you use that in a go betweens review :-P

i'm jus making the point sigur ros make sort of MOR records. people who listen to them probably aren't looking for the same things as you guys. maybe people need to open their minds but atm think of music as something you use and perhaps for the majority of people there is little use in this music. whether this is a good thing or a bad thing i remain ambivilant.

atm *I* think of music etc etc... don't want sound like i'm universalizing here.

Yeah, Sigur Ros are indeed the 'experimental', 'alternative' band namechecked by every single aspirational indie kid I know as an example of their 'eclectic' (how I loathe that word) taste. You say that such people have no 'use' for 65DOS, thus implying that they have no 'use' for music that takes them out of their self-defined comfort zones. I think that this isn't a bad thing, necessarily, on their terms, but on mine, it's tragic. My use for music is to thrill me, and provide me with a sort of semi-intellectual, semi-entertaining cultural archive the wide knowledge of which will reap incredibly satisfying rewards. That's as good a use as any. Those who merely use it to be 'cool' or to listen to whilst drunk, or, worse, to provide them with a 'sound', irritate me like you wouldn't believe.

this thread is interesting to me quite apart from much to do with 65dos, who i can't say excite me much. the ways you two dudes are finding to talk about this band, especially in terms of their technical achivements, is as fascinating as the dialectic hoop-laa's of the teenpop or minimal dudes. it's like you can ping through ilx and find multitudes of not just musical tastes but ways of talking about music. you two seem to be sort of starting something here...

As long as you conveniently forget that I ever wrote the following...

check out track seven (Music Is Music As Devices Are Kisses Is Everything) for a minimalist, subtle journey of quite heartbreaking dimensions.

yeesh ;_;

no don't forget that. this thread is like a sort of discourse between how the record makes you feel and it's "philosophical" importance. the fact that it makes you kind of... gush is i dunno interesting.

Those who merely use it to be 'cool' or to listen to whilst drunk, or, worse, to provide them with a 'sound', irritate me like you wouldn't believe.

"Lisa's pet peeve is... phonies? I thought she liked them!"

Well, I will admit that this is one of the first records I've heard in a long time that seems to genuinely dredge up some sort of stop-at-nothing human desire to innovate, and then express this desire accurately and eloquently in the original terms, without compromise or retreat. It's almost as if it attempts to fully justify its own status as an album, rather than merely acting as a periodical 'release' for the sake of releasing. We need more albums like this.

Louis you might like this - http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/staff_top_10/top-ten-postrock-albums.htm

omg i want califone

Louis, ignore what Nick is saying and just listen to Hall and Oates, The Doobie Brothers, and other proper music.

I actually own 6 of those top 10, YOU ARE MOULDING ME IN YOUR OWN IMAGE

Trayce's 'restaurant reviewer' remark actually holds very true for your writing, Nick; often you don't so much make me want to hear the record as eat it! That's a compliment, of course.

Haha, I'll check some Doobie Brothers out on Youtube, Dom! It doesn't ALL have to be post-rock experimentalism...

I'd actually really like to write about food, being a fat cunt.

One bone of contention, Nick: you claim that Laughing Stock makes music such as Orbital seem 'trite', whereas I'd argue that the last four minutes fifty seconds of 'Out There Somewhere' are easily the equal of LS.

I am also about to go and grab lunch, your Disco Inferno write-up having sufficiently perked my appetite. ;-)

*piqued my appetite, maybe

Much as I love that record, I can't agree. LS floors me in a way nothing else has or, I suspect, will.

Oh, and one last thing before I go: There's a band, a new, British band, whose own extremely singular brand of post-rock/whatever has the potential, I believe, to genuinely challenge the greats of modern music. I really, really suggest you check them out: Working For a Nuclear Free City (c/d, etc.)

Trayce's 'restaurant reviewer' remark actually holds very true for your writing, Nick;

Hey come on I said that about you, not Nick! ;P

To be serious for a tic here though, Louis its interesting you talk about the new album as an OMG something that hits you thing. When I first heard "Fall of Math" about 18 months ago I had the same reaction, in fact I think I wrote some blathery shit on lastfm to that effect. It was for me the first time in ages someone had woken up my ears.

When I first got onto ILX I think one of my early posts was something about being older and not getting the spark anymore. Ned suggested Talk Talk IIRC (I still havent heard much of theirs).

But its been 65DOS, Engineers, and Home Video who have made me go "OH YEAH" recently. I'm glad I'm not beyond new love with music.

nick did you read that interview with simon reynolds and mark k-punk a while back?

http://blissout.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html#7728590621401140080

ilx of course just took issue with his low blows;

Old man calls us a "lone loony bunker"

but he could have had some weird amalgamation of you and carmody in mind when he talks about "nu-rockism".

You should both (all) check out
my bros <a href="http://www.myspace.com/cougarsound&quot;>Cougar</a>.

crap

Cougar

Cougar

Which post are you talking about, Paul? I ctrl+f'd "nu-rockism" but found nowt?

hmmm is that not the article in question? blogs are banned at work so i can't see it. maybe it's linked from somewhere on blissblog but i distinctly remember the phrase being used in the interview he did with k-punk.

ps v interested in yr mooted response to progress/novelty thread but i really should not start threads i am interested in on friday afternoons.

That's just his blog and I can't find an interview linked from it, although I'm busy so only scanning. Email me details and I'll search later?

x-post, haha, yes, I have some time alone tomorrow mornign which I may divert your way for that!

found it http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/da/53579

yup nu-rockism done exists like

'Fall Of Math' never really had that effect on me. This attempts something far more ambitious, and executes it with such style one almost takes its brilliance for granted; it just works.

As for 'Engineers', well, they're pretty much textbook shoegaze but with more hi-tech wizardry in the production. I'll agree that the resulting sound is orgasmic, BUT Working For A Nuclear Free City are the (partially) shoegaze-influenced band which I believe will go on to blow minds and change the way many people think about music. They structure their debut album like a 45-minute DJ set, everything flowing like a motherfucker, every note calculated, and every rise and fall utterly perfect. It's also paced cleverly; a fast start mellows down into the appropriately-named 'A Quiet Place', but only in order to prepare you for the astonishing mid-section, which comprises the finest 11 minutes of music released in 2006. The end is slower, but equally majestic. Track 'em down.

So this is math rock then. It surely has something calculated about it. Anyways it leaves me very cold. And I find the slow-fast, silent-loud dynamics in a song like Music Is Music...rather annoying and formulaic. This music gives me the impression of being very unfocussed, of going in many different directions without knowing what the destination is. Not only has this album no flow, the songs in itself have no flow, they stop in the middle, then they start again, they are lukewarm. This stuff is the opposite of Talk Talk. It is all very heavy, more or less tuneless and the calmer passages don't soothe the listener at all. They make me nervous as they herald the next math rock attack.

[goes back to listen to Tago Mago]

So this is math rock then

No.

I disagree entirely! Most of all with the following sentence: Not only has this album no flow, the songs in itself have no flow, they stop in the middle, then they start again, they are lukewarm. The songs DO flow, they progress, they tell a story, they build, they climax, they reconfigure, and they do it marvellously. This isn't 'math rock' as we know it (try not to lead your description with a genre qualification), or as 65DOS may well have been way back when; it's heavy when it needs to be, light when it needs to be, absolutely chock full of great mini-tunes, and MILES better than Tago Mago. So there.

(That last bit is a piece of revenge for your closing appeal to authority, the authority in this case being a long-established piece of music. I don't like the term 'rockism', but it might apply here.)

Also, the section from 'Music Is Music' through to 'Little Victories' might as well be one song, so well does it flow.

The only genre I think you can fairly apply to this music is 'progressive'. It's not even 'post-rock'. And it DEFINITELY isn't directionless.

No? I saw that genre label applied to them on Wikipedia. So what is it?

x-post
I am not appealing to authority. I have just discovered that album and prefer it to 65dos, that's all. Anyways I am on a krautrock trip for the time being and this does not fit at all into my mood right now.

People who write wikipedia articles are lazy.

It was the way in which you placed 'Tago Mago' provocatively in apposition to 65DOS that raised my hackles. Such argumentative techniques irritate me a little. Krautrock trip = buy lots of Boredoms. I can't stress it enough.

Actually, I never got why people aren't 'in the mood' for good music. Surely the music makes the mood!

Not always, dude.

Also don't diss Wikipedia! Someone saw fit to reference me in the Teo Macero entry = I am super stoked!

Tago Mago is definitely in my top five favourite albums. I'm interested in checking out this 65dos thing.

Actually, I never got why people aren't 'in the mood' for good music. Surely the music makes the mood!

Nick otm, not always! For example I'll often listen to red house painters when I'm already really down, you'd think that'd make me worse and er well, I guess sometimes it does, but sometimes it is nice to augment the mood I'm already in. Its like the music understands and is patting me on the back.

this music has nothing to do with tago mago what the fuck are you people talking about

Cutty OTM.

Exactly, the Tago Mago thing is a total spanner in the works here.

That was exactly my point. Alex in Manhattan threw that one in as an unfair comparison, and I called him on it.

no, you said it "raised your shackles"

ffs 'HACKLES', i.e. it irritated me

hack;es, shackles, i would never see those terms used on wikipedia

Bump.

Listened again intensely last night. This is a very, very good album, and gets better over time, too. wtf is the paper / writing / throwing in bin stuff in White Peak / Dark Peak about?

I will give this album away to someone.

Waht Jordan you are crazy this album is brilliant.

Not my thing.

"..dance parties" can have my babies. I love that song so much.

These guys better be good.

or what?

Or else it's going to be tiring waiting for the Cure to hit the stage.

Well they're NOTHING like the Cure, I'll tell you that much.

In fact I am baffled they got the support.

I think they are too.

Did they actually make it to the US then? They were held up with visa problems and had to cancel 2 or 3 support slots.

Tour hasn't started yet over here but they're still booked to open.

They are currently supporting this lot I've never heard of - or would be if they had visas: http://www.marchofflames.com/

They're playing Exeter Lemongrove, which is round the corner from my office and ac ross town from my new house, on Sunday. It'll be nice to walk home from a gig for once!

I've not listened to TDOSI for a while.

Some of the quiet, pause / surge runs in "Music Is Music As..." are really beautiful. Those delicate guitars and pianos. Then the strings come in. But the percussion's still pretty wild; it's like what Bloc Party did on So Here We Are, without the obnoxious trendiness and asthmatic singer.

these dudes put on a hell of a live show. i saw them at this weird little bowling alley in the suburbs of denver last night. great show.

the albums never convinced me entirely. i had it playing in the car one time and this dude was like "this is the soundtrack to which movie?" and i was just like 'um...good one..."

but yeah, live show was sick

i saw them at this weird little bowling alley in the suburbs of denver last night. great show.

Haha, okay, considering they're opening for the CURE otherwise I had this vision of Robert Smith and company playing their arena show in said bowling alley.

haha they played red rocks the night before

I saw these guys open for the Cure three times, didn't care for em in Dallas, much much better in Austin (small venue effect?) and by Houston they were fucking great. Just picked up the latest album, haven't listened yet. But it better be as good as Nick/Louis were saying. Or, nearly.

:D

I still can't get past their fucking name.

Whiney G. Weingarten

Hahahaha

As the little cartoonist from the Onion would say, we are all Whiney G. Weingarten

Bad news: I don't really care for this album. It does sound a bit Mars Volta-ish in places. Or like an instrumental emo/screamo band. I can almost imagine the singer on top of parts of it. Yeeeesh!

But my favorite track (which I still like) is "Retreat! Retreat!" from one of their other albums. That one killed at the Cure shows.

Have you listened on headphones yet?

^^^U&K

"A bit Mars Volta-ish" = listen again, stop being lazy :p

xpost nope, will do soon enough. listened in the car (shameful to admit to you, Nick, you damned audiophile). anyway... all i can say at this point is: the production *may* be great on headphones, but the music sure ain't doin' it for me yet.

I can't imagine ever even considering listening to this in the car, dude. Totally wouldn't work on any level. The previous albums might do, but not this.

For one thing the engine noise drowns half of it out (yeah, I've tried).

but..... but i listened at home and yeah, the production is stunning. but i just don't care for the music much.

:-(

I should like these but they leave me cold. Not sure why. Too contrived?

too nerdy

May be of interest to some:

http://www.thequietus.com/articles/remixing-bootlegging-and-the-cure-by-65daysofstatic

Never heard this band.

That Cure remix thing sounds like the nth circle of hell. Have I missed an ILM pile-on concerning it? I thought there'd be one

what are you talking about

http://www.thequietus.com/articles/the-cure-announced-brand-new-remix-project

Live album Escape From New York available on spotify - recorded live at Madison Square Garden when they were supporting The Cure.

http://open.spotify.com/album/7vQoqSGmZBKUsjvpe5bDip

1 Drove Through Ghosts To Get Here
2 No Use Crying Over (Some Techno)
3 Retreat! Retreat!
4 Await Rescue
5 Fix The Sky A Little
6 65 Doesn’t Understand You
7 Primer
8 Radio Protector
9 Four Score And (Some Drum’N’Bass)
10 A Failsafe

Or you could, you know, pay money, and get the CD + DVD package.

They've abandoned most of what made them good (dynamic, progressive songwriting, subtlety) in favour of full-bore glitch-rave. FFS. And despite the emphasis on this new direction, not a SINGLE track here bangs as hard as Eastern European Dance Parties. Only 'Debutante' really stands out - and that's the quietest song by a distance.

Hm. If I liked early glitch-ravey track "play nice kids" more than all their subtle stuff put together (though the "dynamic, progressive" era was very much better live, I'll give them that - more down to very hard work touring incessantly than anything else, I suspect), will I like their new stuff?

Well, the album's all here... http://www.myspace.com/65propaganda

(the last 3 tracks are all pretty good, to tell the truth, and Debutante is EXCELLENT, but before that, Christ they try me)

Huh I didnt even know a new one was out.

Re reading this thread makes me sad, for reasons related to discovering 65dos. I've let so much time pass unnoticed.

Hm, its... different. I'll need to give it a proper listen at home though.

It's different but the same. Debutante is undeniably the highlight, and the end is better than the beginning.
Not as good as they used to be, but still, I like.

Debutante is kinda what I had in mind for these guys going in a more 'electronic' direction - much better this than forgettable non-stop aggressive thumping

Tried to play this for modex last night but he went "eeww myspace compresion yuck I'll wait til it comes out".

Fussy bloody audiophiles!

Saw these guys open for the Cure's last tour and about 30 minutes each night was more than enough 65DOS for my ears. Pleasant in a Mogwai-lite sort of way, but nothing I'd strive to hear on record.

To be fair, Myspace compression is abysmal, and 65DOS have so many different layers that it is a waste of time to sacrifice sound quality.

listening to The Fall of the Math for the first time on Spotify

holy yes

or The Fall of Math whichever you'd like

The Fall of Math is probably my fav album by them. One of the most apocalyptic albums I own.

'Tiger Girl' is my prob my fav song though. A sped up mix of Fuck Buttons drone, techno/trance, and post-rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1HeIpHMC_o

Ive been really into No Mans Sky lately so I gave their album based on the prodecural stems soundtrack to the game a listen - no idea why I never did when the game came out 4 years back. Its really good! They need to do more ambient work.

prodecural? Procedural.