Nabisco offers these for himself: Max Tundra Mastered by Guy at the Exchange (tales of girlfriend-stealing, with one chapter about Don Caballero and one about how the song "Lysine" allowed me to give excellent advice to a friend with a cold sore); XTC's Skylarking (finally unpacking the obvious life-cycle composition and sequencing of songs, plus 90 pages about how "Mermaid Smiled" is better than "Dear God").
Of course, I'm not sure I actually have one. :-)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― deej., Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
"Different Class" would be a more playful affair. A few years ago, I did in fact start writing a story about "Different Class" and a Pulp concert which directly led to a breakup with an ex-girlfriend, with the whole thing being a pseudo-allegory about the death of Britpop. I wrote about ten or fifteen pages but could never finish it.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)
Is this thread sponsored by MediaBistro?
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)
There's my abridged pitch... does somebody know somebody over there?
― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
* Negativland Escape From Noise* XTC Black Sea* Donna Summer Walk Away: 1977-1980* Meat Beat Manifesto Storm The Studio* De La Soul De La Soul Is Dead* Renegade Soundwave Soundclash* Pell Mell Flow* Trumans Water Spasm Smash XXXOXOX Ox And Ass* Human League Dare* Heaven 17 Penthouse And Pavement* The Fall This Nation's Saving Grace* Severed Heads Come Visit The Big Bigot* Christian Death Only Theatre Of Pain* Janet Jackson Control* Michael Jackson Off The Wall* Michael Jackson Thriller* Rick James Street Songs* Kitchens Of Distinction Love Is Hell* The Chameleons What Does Anything Mean? Basically* Amon Duul II Tanz Der Lemminge* Ministry Twitch* This Mortal Coil Filigree & Shadow* Nick Drake Bryter Layter* Hochenkeit Omu4uh 4aholab / 400 Boys
and probably many many more I'm forgetting right now...
― donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)
One could make a theoretically similar pitch for Possessed's "Seven Churches" I suppose.
x-post: Admittedly, I haven't listened to "Mastered By Guy At the Exchange" in a while, but can someone explain the Don Cabellero connection to me? I assume we're talking about the band and not Joe Flaherty.
― pm, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
"Damon admitted watching SCTV a lot, hence the album name.. they liked Bitch Magnet's Ben Hur and probably Rush and Voivod and shit like that. But I could be wrong. Then one of the guys starting chewing gum and got into delay pedals and all crazy effects and basically made the band sound more pussy. (Don't kill me, Damon, with your dragon breath.. please)"
― donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)
As for me I'd probably do Songs About Fucking. If you consider the sleevenotes and factor in the tour diary for the final Big Black tour, there's a ton of material to expound on, although the idea of any of it being remotely interesting for almost anyone else makes me giggle like a schoolgirl
― DJ Mencap0))), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Q:Are We Not Men?.. by DevoDestroyer by KissKilling Joke by Killing JokeKings of the Wild Frontier by Adam & the AntsA Night at the Opera by QueenDamaged by Black FlagGroup Sex by the Circle Jerks
...basically, any album I've started an In Praise of... thread about.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)
If something more well known, Music for the Masses by Depeche.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)
I think I could do a killer one on Baxendale's You Will Have Your Revenge - all pictures of popstars and astronauts and Stevie and Er*ca and tales of what it was like to be seventeen and trying to live like Tim Benton's fantasies of how seventeen year olds should live. I can still probably recite most of the lyrics offhand, which I probably shouldn't admit.
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Grand Epic (Grand Epic), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)
Or maybe I should finish my dissertation first . . .
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)
and somebody should do "Tago Mago" too!
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)
I'll volunteer, I can do something better than my AMG review. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Trout Mask ReplicaDamned Damned DamnedCut
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)
The one I'd have the easiest time writing, that would almost write itself, would be All Hail West Texas!, but that's not nearly well known enough. One that's perhaps better known, but which I'm not sure I'd have a book's worth of material to talk about (that hasn't been done before) is the Shaggs' Philosophy of the World. Someone is already doing Murmur, and I can think of someone else who I'd rather see write that anyway.
So I haven't decided yet what I would actually propose.
Someone needs to do Metal Machine Music, though.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Massive Attack Mezzanine
dEUS Worst Case Scenario
No New York
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― ng, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Aw, that'd be neat! A fine album to do and you'd write on it well. :-)
Heavens, whatever albums did you and Mr. Matos decide I should write on?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Adore. But Ned could do a better job on that one.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike a, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)
And another truly oddball album, "Like Flies on Sherbert." That would be fun. Jim Dickinsons' "Dixie Fried" would also be nice.
Like mottdeterre says above, "All Strung Out" is something I'd love to write about--what a twisted fucking album, and I love it.
The point I'm making, I guess, is that fuck the obvious canonical albums, go for things that are singular. Or great soul albums--"Buying a Book" by Joe Tex; the first Swamp Dogg album; Burke's "King Solomon"; etc. Or why not that insane James Brown instrumental album from '71, "Sho Is Funky Down Here"? That would be fascinating as JB drops in to add some electric harpsichord or organ to those Dave Matthews charts. That it's a pretty terrible album just makes me want to write about it all the more.
And the first Dr. Buzzard's OSB album would be fun to write about. Chic's "Real People," which is an actual Great Album (as is Dr. Buzzard's). That old Gus Cannon album on Stax. Johnnie Taylor's "Who's Making Love." It's not an "album" but I'd love to know more about the Parliaments in '67 or so.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)
and not a penny more, except maybe The Yes Album and perhaps Sonny and Cher Live at Las Vegas Vol. 2
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Wow, I'm intrigued! (I mean, I love the album and all, I'm just a touch surprised you'd select it!)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)
plus it is always crapt upon by idiots and this would be my chance to rehabilitate
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)
Er? No need to apologize, I have no problem with that description!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)
But they sang songs about casting no shadows! *is beaten*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)
Marvin Gaye...well, we know his story. Tammi's is a little more obscure and nobody's really been able to flesh out all those awful rumours behind her death. And in spite of their tragic fucked-up-ed-ness as human beings -- sweeping songs of devotion, probably my favorite Motown of all.
Guided By Voices, Bee Thousand
Wherein the love-hate relationship comes to a boil. It'd be easier now thanks to the new "director's cut" of BT.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)
shirley and dolly collins, anthems in eden--would address the "oral" and performative quality of ballad singing, the appropriations and reinventions of british traditional music in 19th century and its ideological baggage (also institutional contexts, from cecil sharp house to the BBC funding the firt performance of "anthems in eden"), the "early music" phenomenon idea and practice, shirley's sussex roots, analysis of dolly's arrangements and the qualities of the "imperfect" historical instruments used, thematics of the "song story" (WWI, lost eden of prewar rural england, female subjectivity in traditional ballads, notions of romance and courtly love).
of course this isn't a rock record so no one would care.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)
And finally, not to mention any names and overinflate any egos, but I gotta say that if I were rich or a publisher (I'm neither), DOZENS of your proposed books would be commissioned immediately!
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)
hahahahahhahaa.
begins with "mel..."ends with "...ness"
― donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)
I would happily do this! :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)
...even if they were destined to sell only three copies! (Your mother, yourself, and me.)
― Myonga Von Bountiful (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Me, I can't think of a single album I'd do a good job writing about. Maybe The Visitors? I don't know.
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)
OMG who would we have to sleep with to make this happen?
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
And, if I can suggest one for somebody else - I'd get Chris Roberts to do Dexy's Don't Stand Me Down.
― carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Nabisco's ideas are most worthy. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)
y'know, cuz it's perfect. and made in Texas.
― Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)
eddie, are these even in print? god, i'd love to be buying a book about joe tex...
― Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)
(PS they are one of my favourite bands in teh evah).
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)
You got me to pull it off the shelf and listen to it, though.
I vote for English Settlement as the best XTC record, since it's the most transitional. Or Jules Verne's Sketchbook, because I'm obsessed with (over)analyzing Partridge's demos. But Skylarking would sell the best.
― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― it's tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave q (listerine), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)
but all these were basically top-of-head ideas
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)
This Heat - DeceitThe Embarrassment - HeydayMission of Burma - Vs.Tricky - MaxinquayeThrowing Muses - S/T (either one!)Lake of Dracula - S/TVeruca Salt - Eight Arms to Hold You
Nabisco - LINE BREAKS, SON!
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― jonas siig (plast), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)
I forgot David R is the one here who shares my love for the Veruca Salt. Dave, if you write the book, can I do the forward? Or the illustrations?
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)
What do you think?
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 January 2005 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't think "Buying a Book" is in print--I burned a copy recently from a friend's pristine LP. I think the first Swamp Dogg LP is available, on a twofer with "Rat On" or something. "King Solomon" should be available, reissued w/ extra trax. Maybe Ace or someone has the Tex LPs available, I don't know. I bought a nice LP of "Bumps and Bruises" recently.
I've been into some stuff from the early '70s lately, like Thomas Jefferson Kaye's "First Grade" (an album I've burned for many people after I started talking it up), and the first Manfred Mann's Earth Band LP, the one with "Captain Bobby Stout" and "Please Mrs. Henry." Those are both such singular records--I'd love to know more about them myself.
I'd also like to write about Gary Stewart's "Out of Hand." Freddie Hart's awesome "The Neon and the Rain." Bobby Womack's "Fly Me to the Moon" and "My Prescription," two records that were recently reissued as a twofer and in my opinion the best Womack ever. I dunno, has 33 1/3 done the Big Star records? I guess the new biography covers the making of those well? Anyone read it? I hear that a USA publisher might do that one here--it was published UK.
I'd like to delve into the making of my favorite Elvis Presley record, the soundtrack to "Clambake." That would be choice--examining the obviously fluctuating weight of EP in that movie. Who came up with the idea of having EP and that other guy sing a song about cash, "Who Needs Money," on two motorcycles as they drive thru Florida? I find this endlessly fascinating, and it'd be a real challenge to make it so for readers, you know. Why is "Confidence" such an obvious ripoff of Sinatra's "High Hopes"? Did Sinatra ever hear this? The scene in which Elvis and many girls lather up the boat with water-resistant goop while singing "Hey, Hey, Hey," which changes keys about 10,000 times--how did this come about, what mind could conceive it?
Of course too I'd like to write about more, ah, canonical stuff, like the first Moby Grape album, "Notorious Byrd Bros.," etc. The Beach Boys' "Love You" seems like a good choice--was Brian Wilson actually watching a lot of Johnny Carson when he wrote the song?
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Los Angeles does not want it's secretes revealed. Try to write this book, and Los Angeles will rise up like rotten tentacle and drag you down into its sludge.
Thanks for listening.
Love,
Los Angeles (And when next in town, be sure to visit the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim!)
― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Naaah, that's totally Josh Kortbein territory.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)
I’d like to see the Violent Femmes’ first done up by three people: a boy born in 1970, a boy born in 1980, and a boy born in 1990. Alternately: If You’re Feeling Sinister, by Cozen, a Londoner, and an American.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)
i would swear to god this got reissued on cd recently. it's a great record.
i would buy 10,000 copies of a nabisco-penned "millions" book if he promises to elaborate on his poetics of post-rock theory.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, that's sort of what I was imagining. Although when the album actually came out, I was technically in college in Michigan and totally out of touch with whatever scene was actually happening at the time. But yes, I think it'd be a good way of discussing the various trends at play.
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost
i don't know that the post-rock "scene" (as in, an inventory of the major players and their careerist wanderings) would be the most interesting aspect; rather, i'd like to read about the "post-rock" aesthetic and how it grew out of a particular moment in indie music and perhaps the culture in general. i guess there might be something significant to its happening largely in chicago.
fuck it, nabisco should totally write this book.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)
I'd like to see someone do Violent Femmes' 3 even though it seems like nobody knows that record at all.
Nabisco's idea is pretty genius though, except I'd roll the age of the first boy back enough that he was in his late teens when it came out. Say, 1965 (so he'd be 17 in '82).
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)
shit, let me know if that presents a problem, and I'll take on *that* project, mott...
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Hrm. I don't see that album as being about anger/despair at the inevitability of dying a virgin. I see as anger/despair about just about everything involving a relationship. I just think 17 year-old males do the anger thing considerably better than 14 or 15 year-olds.
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)
I was born in '74, and I actually did hear the album when it was barely a year old (thanks dad), and I was pretty familiar with it at the time (because it's catchy and, let's face it, a 7 or 8 year-old is tickled to death by the word "fuck" in a song), but I didn't really reach the level of appreciating the album from a personal identification standpoint until I was probably 16 or 17 finishing up high school in the very early 90s.
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)
MARTIN! I'm thinking of about maybe 96 6-panel pages about the love quadrangular between the members of the Salt w/ Dave Grohl (in person, making out w/ Louise at every opportunity like he's Paul Rudd in Wet Hot American Summer) & the Loud Family's Scott Miller (in spirit, w/ Nina G in her bedroom wearing air traffic control headphones cross-legged on the bed looking up wistfully at the ceiling while clutching her vinyl copy of Lolita Nation, with a Pretty in Pink poster off to the right behind her - she does this after every tussle w/ Louise) making some impact as well. Louise is wearing a sexed-up version of Metallica's Metal Up Your Ass shirt throughout the whole thing. And Bob Rock is actually one of those cute/evil shapeshifting things from a Jim Woodring story. Blow It Out Your Ass will also have to get some love in here somewhere. You run w/ that, & I'll script the pages Stan Lee style. ("Why, that is a Posies Crocodile Cafe bootleg I have NEVER seen before! But I heard that the version of 'Golden Slumbers' on that is QUITE DOPE! NO, DO NOT TOUCH THE HI-FI! You will UPSET the delicately-balanced quarter on the tone arm! I MUST FIND more Scotch tape!")
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)
fuck, i would seriously shell out money to read that, eddie!
i'd like to write about:
disco not disco the first couple bikini kill epsany little richard hits collectionp.i.l.'s metal box
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)
And sure, love for Blow It Out Your Ass plus also the fantastically overlooked and utterly perfect "All Hail Me" and the fairly brilliant "Spiderman '79."
It will also be important for the Venitian blinds in Louise's room to be blinds made by Levolor. You know, just for the people who actually get the obtuse pun that is "Number One Blind."
That's right, my copy is on Minty Fresh and not DGC. I should win some kind of prize I reckon.
― martin m. (mushrush), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)
(Can we pretend "25" didn't happen?)
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
As such, yes I think you'd need to script the 8 Arms story. I wouldn't want to have another bit-off-more-than-I-can-chew nervous breakdown.
(What's "25?")
― martin m. (mushrush), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)
I maintain I am not in pain.How I try not to place the blame.I came late to an early game.You can bend me, shape me any way.You can bend me, shape me any way.You can bend me, shape me any way.You can bend me, shape me any way you want me.
When I was five, I took a dive.When I was ten, I walked again.When I was fifteen, I kept my motor clean.When I was twenty, I got plenty.When I was twenty-five...When I was twenty-five...
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)
- great album destroys great band- interesting arrangements (I liked what Chuck Eddy wrote about the quiet songs sounding like what rock 'n' roll would have sounded like in 1920...)- the notion that Ian Hunter was actually seven years older of his reported age of 26 when he wrote and performed these songs; when I was in my mid-20s, I remember thinking that some of the material (especially "The Ballad Of Mott The Hoople") sounded way too world weary for someone of that age to write- how in college in the mid-1990s I vowed that I would marry the first woman who was impressed that I liked MTH...only to have my roommate's girlfriend (now his wife) come into the room one evening and comment approvingly of the MTH CD on my CD rack
― John Fredland (jfredland), Saturday, 15 January 2005 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 15 January 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Beta (abeta), Sunday, 16 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)
The Avalanches, Since I Left You.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Sitting on L train around 3:30 am, listening to Mastered by Guy at the Exchange. Train stuck. Suddenly remember that I grabbed a book on the way out, for precisely this eventuality. What book was it? Dig around in bag: it's Flann O'Brien's The Third Policeman. Read. Read. Remember why I enjoyed this book so much. Then get to the point where the story diverts from the real into the fantastical. It happens in one sentence! One critical sentence: "It was some change that came upon me or upon the room, indescribably subtle, yet momentous, ineffable."
Which is the only lyric to the song "M.B.G.A.T.E."
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)
"Elis & Tom" would be good--one of my half-dozen favorite albums, and what's ever been written about it?
If you could do a book on a rock-movie, Bloodstone's insane, inane "Train Ride to Hollywood" would be a gas too. It's just unbelievably stupid, and I'd love to know exactly who said, "Let's get...Bloodstone...to star in a movie that's a harmony-group's dream sequence about being porters on a train to Hollywood filled with Bogart-W.C. Fields-Clark Gable-impersonators, with several rousing musical numbers..."
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
Yes, just that one song.
― PB, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)
― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
― Legroom at the Vista (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
i like how everything's all about tiny books these days. it's too bad it didn't coincide with the tiny knapsack craze of the late 90's.
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)
then theres the just plain obvious:syd barrett's the madcap laughstelevision personalities don't the kids just love itjamc's psychocandysonic youth bad moon rising or evol (unless i wanna take up a cross and try for nyc ghosts and flowers)
― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)
Definitely would have a long section on zombies roaming around midtown NYC.
― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
And, reading Shapiro's great book on disco yesterday, I thought about doing Chic's "Real People" again. Has that been done?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
probably too obvious:Stones, Let It Bleed, Double Nickels..., Rain Dogs, Live at Leeds
"Split single" books about two related albums that probably aren't meaty enough for a book on their own would be fun too:Flaming Lips, In a Priest Driven Ambulance/Mercury Rev, Yerself Is Steamor: NaS, Illmatic/Main Source, Breaking Atomsor:Dr. Octagon/Ultramagnetic MC's, Critical Beatdown
I'd love to do Wowee Zowee, but I'm sure it would be a distant third to Matt and Raymond's hypothetical versions (Matt, you should DEFINITELY do a book). For that reason, I'm tempted to pick a different Pavement album, but OTOH I don't think I could write 40k words on any of their other albums...
― casey (t. fiend), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)
― I Ain't No Addict, Whoever Heard of a Junkie as Old as Me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― I Ain't No Addict, Whoever Heard of a Junkie as Old as Me? (noodle vague), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)
I think this part of the thread is an interesting one that we should run with again: what album would you propose that some one else in particular (ILXOR or otherwise) write about?
"i would NOT buy a "69 love songs" book b/c the problem w/the book would likely be the same as the problem w/the album--its facile schematics, cutesiness, etc."
Yr half-right here I think Amateurist - the wrong writer would reduce the album to facile schematics and cutsiness and write about it in the same manner. Josh however would be exactly the right person to write about - did you ever see his stuff about it on Josh Blog? I would think you especially would appreciate his approach!
Having said that, I think the Merritt-related album I would prefer to see done for the series would be The Future Bible Heroes' Memories of Love, not just because I prefer it, but because an exploration of its "facile schematics" would I think make for a fantastic book - it's got that really tight unity in concept/sound/lyrics/performance going... (translation: it's the Merrit-related album I would do).
(on a related note I wonder if the album i would end up choosing for myself would be one of the first Blue Nile albums. Madonna's Erotica would be a fun one too)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)
― M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)
― Michael B, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)
Not as a 33 1/3, but Daryl Easlea's book "Everybody Dance: Chic and the Politics of Disco" goes into each album pretty in-depth. If you can bear a bit of heavy-handed socialist political grousing, a great book.
― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
(NB: These might actually be the same album.)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)
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Reviving this, out of interest.
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:43 (fourteen years ago)
I pitched a Talk Talk one a few years ago; got through a couple of rounds of 'auditions' / consideration but not the final hurdle.
If I were to pitch another one I'd have to think a lot about it, as I'd want to write about the industry / production primarily, rather than a record I necessarily love.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:52 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah. I think having an angle and particular access to hitherto exclusive information would be a must. I could name any number of albums I love and would enjoy writing about, but it's also important to remember YOU ARE WRITING A BOOK about it and need to have something worthwhile to say about it other than gushing prose about how marvellous it is. Nick, I could see you doing something like 65DaysOfStatic, although they're probably not really canon enough to merit a book of that kind.
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
I like Tim's question: "I think this part of the thread is an interesting one that we should run with again: what album would you propose that some one else in particular (ILXOR or otherwise) write about?"
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
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― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
I'm bummed that Fugazi's "In on the Killtaker" has been shortlisted a few times but never makes it. I wish someone would do that one.
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
is that one considered the fugazi masterpiece or something?
― scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)
Would love to write books on several YMO or YMO-related albums particularly BGM or Technodelic or Hosono's Paraiso. If anything I just want to know what that guy was on all these years.
Other albums which I'd love to read or write about:Aqua - Aquarium - mostly curious if the band really did have a sharp sense of humor and lived to be despised or if they were sincere about everything
Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? (I could probably write this one)
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery - I feel like these guys were really trying to write the greatest album in the history of everything, plus their de-facto interview like 20 years after telling stories about meeting Giger and Ginastara are fascinating
They Might Be Giants - any number of early albums, would really like to know what these dudes thought about back then
Cornelius - Point
The KLF - The White Room
― frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
What would you write about Point?
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
the symbolism that some of the tracks have (especially compared to previous work), and a lot about how it's intended to be more an album of disjointed sounds rather than songs, why it sounds like there are like 10 musicians doing the job of 4 or so, and what compelled the guy to choose certain sounds over others and the feelings they were supposed to evoke, really just an interesting album overall
― frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not sure which album I'd pick, but I'd love to read a Robyn Hitchcock book that treated him more like an actual person than a charming collection of eccentricities.
― dlp9001, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
xpost I dug it out again and listened to the whole thing in the bath the other night (was it you I was chatting with about this one?) I'd forgotten just how much I love Drop and his cover of Brazil and that last track.
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I listened to the Richard D. James album (also maybe an interesting 33 1/3 topic) and this in a row as both were albums that I thought had a very unique piecework feel to them that I hadn't heard in a long while. it seems like Point is holding up much better over the years. I mean I have to give some respect for "Tone Twilight Zone" which is really kind of a sappy instrumental but every single thing is placed so perfectly that I can't help enjoy it. Also the way the album gradually loosens up then completely lets loose is awesome. The songs themselves are very good. Whereas the RDJ album seems like it would just fall apart without all the unsettling effects and drill-like percussion.
― frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
The High Llamas' Hawaii or Super Furry Animals' Mwng.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
Come To Daddy would be a good one. It seems to encompass everything RDJ was trying to do at the time.
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
Man, if Sinker did one on Dragnet or Y, I would buy five copies instantly.
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― housebroken in a broken home (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
Super Furry Animals - Rings Around The World.
― Turrican, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
yeah probably more interesting than the RDJ album. i'd add Windowlicker in there as well. kinda seems like he basically ran out of ideas/motivation after that
― frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
Mary Margaret O'Hara - Miss America
― Love stream of mic checking (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
We did RDJ Album at DRC recently and it was the melodies and tunes that jumped out. It really didn't seem radical anymore. Just lovely.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
Would probably go for Immer by Michael Mayer if that's allowed.
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
is that one considered the fugazi masterpiece or something?― scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:03 (3 hours ago)
It's the one they first recorded with Steve Albini in Chicago, before scrapping the whole album and doing it again themselves; and it's also the point where they were being courted by Ahmet Ertegun in the wake of Nirvana-mania. A lot of people consider it their peak period in terms of live performance, too.
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
kinda seems like he basically ran out of ideas/motivation after that Drukqs
― billstevejim, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
if i was a good writer i would like to do one about "big science" by laurie anderson
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I know a lot of people stand up for Drukqs but I'm not sure how much innovation there really was there, kinda just seemed like Aphex by-the-numbers
― frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
I kinda remember 'Drukqs' getting a much less enthusiastic response than its predecessors upon release.
― Turrican, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
It came out just a bit late - people had jumped all over the drill'n'bass bandwagon and its axle was broken by that point. It was the first aphex album that didn't completely bowl people over with new ideas, although it still has some great bits
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
It lacked a USP. It's just a compilation of stuff rather than an album with an aesthetic. People didn't know how to consume it. I still don't.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 November 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
drukqs totally had an aesthetic
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
uptempo electronic jams w/distinctly aphex-y melodies and beats set against beautiful prepared piano pieces
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2011 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
Bjork - Homogenic, PostBoredoms - Vision Creation NewsumCan - Tago Mago, Future DaysCurtis Mayfield - CurtisDepeche Mode - ViolatorGodspeed You! Black Emperor - F♯A♯∞Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements, Dots & LoopsSmashing Pumpkins - Siamese DreamTricky - MaxinquayeWu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers
― Moka, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)
I have a crackpot theory about Gillian Welch's Time (The Revelator) that I thought I'd like to get off my chest. I started writing the book to see if I could pull it off. I couldn't. But that's the album I'd write about if I had the chops.
― DJ Smoove Groothe (staggerlee), Sunday, 20 November 2011 03:58 (fourteen years ago)
I feel like these guys were really trying to write the greatest album in the history of everything, plus their de-facto interview like 20 years after telling stories about meeting Giger and Ginastara are fascinating
These stories are hilarious/totally full of shit.
― Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:02 (fourteen years ago)
At least the Giger ones are!
OR maybe they've just become ridiculous in my imagination over the years. iirc Emerson said Giger had a palatial dining hall with a table made of giant penises and chairs made of human skeletons, and that the toilet in the bathroom was a monster/electric chair hybrid, and all this silly stuff.
― Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:07 (fourteen years ago)
I'm thinking I should write the Brain Salad Surgery book. It would be my devolved memories of him talking about Giger + (plus) my dad's devolved reminisces of listening to it in college, seeing them live, etc. "Greg Lake held up a Book of Mormon* and said if anyone believed in it, we were all fools and liars. I swear, I was waiting for lightning to hit him. But they did have a really cool drum solo."
*because the concert was in was Salt Lake**this story was actually about Ian Anderson but I'M USING IT ANYWAY
― Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:12 (fourteen years ago)
I could also write about how during the synthesizer jam bit of "Karn Evil pt 1 1st impression" I like to imagine a SPACE KNIGHT battling a SPACE MOTH with a SPACE LANCE though that would probably be better suited to a drawing.
― Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:18 (fourteen years ago)
do you think they would do a 33 1/3 comic book
There's a great ELP 33 1/3 book out there waiting to be written. But it's not Brain Salad Surgery.
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― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 20 November 2011 05:03 (fourteen years ago)
You mean
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― Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)