What album would you propose to write about for the 33 1/3 book series?

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I once asked this question at a party (after explaining the concept) and got some interesting responses. It's not necessarily your favorite album of all time -- it's more likely an album that you'd have a lot to say about, whether that's because you're particularly knowledgeable about it, because you have a personal connection to it that makes for a good story, or maybe because you have some kind of overarching crackpot theory about it you want to let loose.

Nabisco offers these for himself: Max Tundra Mastered by Guy at the Exchange (tales of girlfriend-stealing, with one chapter about Don Caballero and one about how the song "Lysine" allowed me to give excellent advice to a friend with a cold sore); XTC's Skylarking (finally unpacking the obvious life-cycle composition and sequencing of songs, plus 90 pages about how "Mermaid Smiled" is better than "Dear God").

Of course, I'm not sure I actually have one. :-)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Funkadelic "Free Your Mind And Your Ass Will Follow"

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Luomo's "The Present Lover" or Jimi Tenor's "Intervision", without hesitation - maybe the only two records that are personal favorites but also resonate emotionally for reasons related to experiences outside of merely listening to them.

.adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Biggie's Ready to Die, maybe Miss E...so addictive, or perhaps the first Big L album

deej., Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Diamonds & Pearls but Matos already did Prince.

.adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I will only write about Prince or Finns who owe a great debt to him!

.adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The Monkees, Headquarters. A great album with an even greater backstory.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I want more reasons why, too! Make your pitch!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Send me an advance first.

.adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I could write a lot about the first Drugstore album, but it would be a very depressing read.

"Different Class" would be a more playful affair. A few years ago, I did in fact start writing a story about "Different Class" and a Pulp concert which directly led to a breakup with an ex-girlfriend, with the whole thing being a pseudo-allegory about the death of Britpop. I wrote about ten or fifteen pages but could never finish it.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

> I want more reasons why, too! Make your pitch!

Is this thread sponsored by MediaBistro?

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know what that means!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Ages before I heard about this series, I had this exact same idea except calling the books "Sleevenotes". It was going to be my route to riches I tell you. Bloody gutted it's already been done. Is this series available in the UK?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the Funkadelic bit would have to cover my introduction to the album via a taped copy. for quite awhile I was convinced that the weird panning, EQing, volume changes, and out-of-control reverb sounds were the fault of crappy tape dubbing. only later upon purchasing the CD did I realize the album was SUPPOSED to sound that way. At which point both my mind and ass were freed. would also cover that indie band that re-recorded the album right down to all the "wrong" production touches (I forget their name tho)

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

1000 Years of Trouble - age of chance
a life changing release for a fey indie fan in leeds 87. ground breaking sonically as well as visually. opened the doorway for so much that followed afterwards, the cut-n-paste issue re kisspower 12" that virgin never released, but peel played, the unrecognition of janet jackson/jam & lewis lifting a sample loop 100% for rhythm nation, the live show featuring a typical rock band setup and hip hop dj, something quite rare in 1986, the personalities involved, and last but not least the cycle gear.
the memories of the band posing late one cold winters saturday night in leeds in their gear while everyone else dashed home to get out of the cold. the lead singer 'quitting' - causing the band to go in directions that killed their chances ..
etc etc

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I would kill to do a 33 1/3 book on the Geto Boys' self-titled album. I have intense memories associated with that cassette and several worthy anecdotes (including, but not limited to, the time when I made my father (a captain in the United States Navy at the time) take me to see the Geto Boys LIVE at the Capital Center in Landover, Maryland in the early '90s -- on the Government's dime, no less (they owned a Skybox at the arena and picked up the cost of the tickets!); as well as the story of the locked box that I kept the tape in for fear of my mother finding it, listening to it, and punishing me severely (it also contained some starter-porn like a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue and a copy of a last will and testament that I wrote for myself -- of of which was eventually discovered years later).
I think the book could tell some interesting tales about the creeping of gangsta rap into the lives of 16-year-old, painfully white, suburban upper-middle class kids...

There's my abridged pitch... does somebody know somebody over there?

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd totally read that.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

If I had to pick one, it would be Pavement's Wowee Zowee, but I'm not sure what my proposal would be. I probably would write a more insightful/interesting book about U2's Achtung Baby, though.

Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

My life just isn't all that interesting, but I've heard some great music!

.adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I had this same discussion with Matos, Jen and donut christ a while back, and still feel very strongly that I should write an illustrate a graphic novel based on The Soft Bulletin.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

that's write and illustrate...

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Jaymc! In all seriousness, though, how does that series work? I imagine the writers are invited by the publisher? How many of the books are by "names" (speaking in relative terms of course), a'la the Joe Pernice one... I would really love to write this!

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

well, the implied reason for choosing one's book for a 33 1/3rd series is how prominent a cornerstone record it was for him or her... I wish I could think of one that would actually be "known" enough to actually be truly considered for a title.. but here goes..

* Negativland Escape From Noise
* XTC Black Sea
* Donna Summer Walk Away: 1977-1980
* Meat Beat Manifesto Storm The Studio
* De La Soul De La Soul Is Dead
* Renegade Soundwave Soundclash
* Pell Mell Flow
* Trumans Water Spasm Smash XXXOXOX Ox And Ass
* Human League Dare
* Heaven 17 Penthouse And Pavement
* The Fall This Nation's Saving Grace
* Severed Heads Come Visit The Big Bigot
* Christian Death Only Theatre Of Pain
* Janet Jackson Control
* Michael Jackson Off The Wall
* Michael Jackson Thriller
* Rick James Street Songs
* Kitchens Of Distinction Love Is Hell
* The Chameleons What Does Anything Mean? Basically
* Amon Duul II Tanz Der Lemminge
* Ministry Twitch
* This Mortal Coil Filigree & Shadow
* Nick Drake Bryter Layter
* Hochenkeit Omu4uh 4aholab / 400 Boys

and probably many many more I'm forgetting right now...

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

ooooh do Truman's Water

.adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it would have to be a double of Blur's Parklife and Great Escape.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You do Truman's Water!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

(ur, I'm pleasantly surprised, but surprised none the less about how many Trumans fans we have here...)

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

honestly though, in that list above, I really do think there needs to be a book on Negativland's Escape From Noise. In a college radio/underground sense, it was a winner across all types of underground music fans, and -- personally -- it really changed the way I looked at music (I got it the day it came out, purely out of curiosity, when I was 15), and would love to take up that task.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

At the risk of erring on the side of indie orthodoxy: Slint, "Spiderland." Its hyper-local, kids-in-band, load-the-gear-in-Mom's-old-Volvo genesis vs. the universally name-checked touchstone that would become over the next decade. The Rosetta Stone qualities of the album (hokum or no). It's still a creepy black monolith of a record that's held onto a surprising amount of its mystery over the years -- I'd like to read this book at the very least.

One could make a theoretically similar pitch for Possessed's "Seven Churches" I suppose.

x-post: Admittedly, I haven't listened to "Mastered By Guy At the Exchange" in a while, but can someone explain the Don Cabellero connection to me? I assume we're talking about the band and not Joe Flaherty.

pm, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"Painfully white?" Holy crap -- does it really, like, hurt?

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

This may shock you, nabisco, but PIGMENT IS ACTUALLY A NERVE CELL NUMBING AGENT! All of us whiteys are suffering in pain and despair all the time, but are yet too modest to admit it.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Re: M.B.G.A.T.E. -- the song "Acorns," which I would say was my favorite thing on the album if only everything on the album weren't my favorite, claims itself to be in part about Don Cab splitting up, in typical-Max "I only sing about things that happen to me" fashion -- except of course midway through it starts to seem like a metaphor as well. (I’m still working out how the spitting-blood-in-the-sink-of-a-German-hotel-bathroom fits in: might just be coincidental detail.) Anyway, as Max writes and Becky sings, “At least we have Storm and Stress to show for the D.C. implosion.”

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously though, in my life MBGATE has reached levels of textual depth akin to the Bible. Or at least Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Here would be my book on Don Caballero's For Respect

"Damon admitted watching SCTV a lot, hence the album name.. they liked Bitch Magnet's Ben Hur and probably Rush and Voivod and shit like that. But I could be wrong. Then one of the guys starting chewing gum and got into delay pedals and all crazy effects and basically made the band sound more pussy. (Don't kill me, Damon, with your dragon breath.. please)"

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops, donut, my comment was directed to Adam, as in he should do Truman's Water. The first time I'd even heard of this band was on a t-shirt of Adam's from many days gone by.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i have a close friend here in SF from Dublin and he can't pronounce "TH" so instead of "three", he says "tree". funnier than hell. so to hear him say "Tirty Tree and a Tird" would make me giggle.

JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay: to be more specific anything I wrote about Max Tundra would be about how midway through loving it just on the basis of sound I realized that its primary preoccupation was the fact of Max having stolen his best friend's girlfriend. This was shocking to me: I remember sitting down on my bed and laughing at the sudden realization that that's why his last album was called Some Best Friend You Turned Out to Be. I could empathize with this: I was once considered to have stolen a best-friend's girl (a year after he broke up with her, but oh well). So I started listening closer, and a bizarre sequence of events started to unfold: everything on this album began to seep into my life. It became something of a guide, something of a religious text. The first highlight was when I was on the phone telling someone about the weirdness of the whole thing, and said person said "ouch," and I said "what?" and she said "oh, sorry, I have a cold sore, it won't go away" -- and there once again: "Lysine! Max says lysine helps with cold sores! He is guiding me through my life!" And there were further highlights, but I'm saving them for the book.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd also like to write one (though I don't think it would work as a comic the way Soft Bulletin would) about They Might Be Giants' Lincoln because I was just old enough when I got into that record to be half on the side of just thinking it was amusing and quirky as a kid and realizing how ridiculously cynical, dark and generally unhappy it is if you pay even a little bit more attention.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought I'd got rid of this album and on checking, was glad to find I didn't. I'm gonna give MBGATE its first play in a couple of years and try and approach your mindset on this one. Quality.

As for me I'd probably do Songs About Fucking. If you consider the sleevenotes and factor in the tour diary for the final Big Black tour, there's a ton of material to expound on, although the idea of any of it being remotely interesting for almost anyone else makes me giggle like a schoolgirl

DJ Mencap0))), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Any of the following....

Q:Are We Not Men?.. by Devo
Destroyer by Kiss
Killing Joke by Killing Joke
Kings of the Wild Frontier by Adam & the Ants
A Night at the Opera by Queen
Damaged by Black Flag
Group Sex by the Circle Jerks

...basically, any album I've started an In Praise of... thread about.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

DI Go Pop by Disco Inferno.

If something more well known, Music for the Masses by Depeche.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I could also do something only slightly embarrassing-to-myself about 10,000 Maniacs' In My Tribe, in a more old-and-common field.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd read donut christ's Escape From Noise book, he's the man for the job

(Jon L), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Nabisco's book sounds amazing.

I think I could do a killer one on Baxendale's You Will Have Your Revenge - all pictures of popstars and astronauts and Stevie and Er*ca and tales of what it was like to be seventeen and trying to live like Tim Benton's fantasies of how seventeen year olds should live. I can still probably recite most of the lyrics offhand, which I probably shouldn't admit.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely Galaxie 500 - On Fire, because it's like my musical "soul-mate" haha, but I know hardly anything beyond the superficial details of the band's history/legacy, and I think that guy that writes the liner notes for the rykodisc re-issues would be a lot more qualified. Oh well, there's always someone else more qualified... Otherwise, I would like to see someone do: Slint - Spiderland, Guided by Voices - Bee Thousand, Sonic Youth - Sister, or Bjork - Homogenic....... and maybe Kate Bush - Hounds of Love, just for kicks.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dusty in Memphis" and Jackie DeShannon's "Laurel Canyon" immediately come to mind. Phil Spector's Christmas Album, too. But my real dream is Nino Tempo and April Stevens' "All Strung Out," although I can't even fathom the disinterest that would great that proposal. Also, Pretenders II would certainly be a gas to do. Oh God, and that first Bob Neuwirth album....

mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

And while I'm in the market for abuse, Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk" would be fun, too. Although I might want to think about an album where the people invovled actually remember the sessions....

mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The usual suspects -- Dig Your Own Hole, Discovery, Paul's Boutique. Yeah.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Reasonable doubt or the blueprint, and i could expand on my theory that Jay-Z is the poet laureate of capitalism. It would be called Can't Knock the Hustle, of course.

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock

Grand Epic (Grand Epic), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Something/Anything

J (Jay), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to read Nabisco's Max Tundra book too!

Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I should pitch a book on either TG's "20 Jazz Funk Greats" or NWW's "Sylvie and Babs Thigh High Companion".

Or maybe I should finish my dissertation first . . .

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, oooh, somebody do Coil's "Love's Secret Domain"!

and somebody should do "Tago Mago" too!

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Pink Flag"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

and somebody should do "Tago Mago" too!

I'll volunteer, I can do something better than my AMG review. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Cosmic Thing
Chocolate Starfish & The Hot Dog Flavored Water
The Young & The Hopeless
The Modern Lovers

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Assuming that they'd have to be books about albums that would actually be worth reading and which more than, say, three people would actually be sufficiently interested in to be prepared to pay real money for to buy the book and then read it:

Trout Mask Replica
Damned Damned Damned
Cut

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

'Loveless' would have a kind of gonzo 'Aviator' aspect to it. 'Maxinquaye' would take us deep into the world of legalese. But truly the soundtrack to 'Pulp Fiction' would tell the story of a generation.

Miles Finch, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Obv Matos and I were discussing this a few days ago (including what books we'd have Ned or Nabisco or whoever write).

The one I'd have the easiest time writing, that would almost write itself, would be All Hail West Texas!, but that's not nearly well known enough. One that's perhaps better known, but which I'm not sure I'd have a book's worth of material to talk about (that hasn't been done before) is the Shaggs' Philosophy of the World. Someone is already doing Murmur, and I can think of someone else who I'd rather see write that anyway.

So I haven't decided yet what I would actually propose.

Someone needs to do Metal Machine Music, though.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Junior Boys Last Exit (in a Barthes style)

Massive Attack Mezzanine

dEUS Worst Case Scenario

No New York

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Zen Arcade is gagging for this treatment.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Would love to see someone write about "Double Nickels on the Dime." No, let me amend that: would love to see what Mike Watt has to say about that record.

ng, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I'd love to do Rain Dogs by Tom Waits.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The one I'd have the easiest time writing, that would almost write itself, would be All Hail West Texas!, but that's not nearly well known enough.

Aw, that'd be neat! A fine album to do and you'd write on it well. :-)

Heavens, whatever albums did you and Mr. Matos decide I should write on?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Wowee Zowee of course, but I think Matthew could do a better job than I.

Adore. But Ned could do a better job on that one.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Wanna Buy A Bridge? Although perhaps it's cheating to do a compilation.

mike a, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I'd want to write about something like the Miracles' "City of Angels," which would have an audience of about 18 people. But it's worth writing about if anything is.

And another truly oddball album, "Like Flies on Sherbert." That would be fun. Jim Dickinsons' "Dixie Fried" would also be nice.

Like mottdeterre says above, "All Strung Out" is something I'd love to write about--what a twisted fucking album, and I love it.

The point I'm making, I guess, is that fuck the obvious canonical albums, go for things that are singular. Or great soul albums--"Buying a Book" by Joe Tex; the first Swamp Dogg album; Burke's "King Solomon"; etc. Or why not that insane James Brown instrumental album from '71, "Sho Is Funky Down Here"? That would be fascinating as JB drops in to add some electric harpsichord or organ to those Dave Matthews charts. That it's a pretty terrible album just makes me want to write about it all the more.

And the first Dr. Buzzard's OSB album would be fun to write about. Chic's "Real People," which is an actual Great Album (as is Dr. Buzzard's). That old Gus Cannon album on Stax. Johnnie Taylor's "Who's Making Love." It's not an "album" but I'd love to know more about the Parliaments in '67 or so.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell, Eddie should write all those books!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Miccio, you know that Chocolate Starfish is the album for you. You've been put on this planet to help the rest of us understand the Durst.

Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Kiss 'Unmasked'

dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Waylon Jennings, Honky Tonk Heroes
James Brown, The Payback
Parliament, Funkentelechy vs. the Placebo Syndrome
The Chi-Lites, Greatest Hits
Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, Fabulosos Calavera
Charles Mingus, Mingus Ah Um
Pizzicato Five, Happy End of the World
The Boo Radleys, C'mon Kids
Sweet, Desolation Boulevard
Whale, We Care
Various Artists, Homenaje de los Tigres del Norte

and not a penny more, except maybe The Yes Album and perhaps Sonny and Cher Live at Las Vegas Vol. 2

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The Boo Radleys, C'mon Kids

Wow, I'm intrigued! (I mean, I love the album and all, I'm just a touch surprised you'd select it!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

well, it's a great careericide album, as well as the funniest Oasis parody in history (and an homage as well as a fuck-you to the Gallaghers, sorry Ned), and is a valiant attempt at discovering the future through equal amounts of brit-pop we-can-do-it!-ness and old-ass psychedelia.

plus it is always crapt upon by idiots and this would be my chance to rehabilitate

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

and an homage as well as a fuck-you to the Gallaghers, sorry Ned

Er? No need to apologize, I have no problem with that description!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah but my book would go into greater depth about Oasis and the shadow they cast over music of the time, and the picture wouldn't look too good for the boys

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

a.k.a. GET ONE TWEEZERS

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Oasis and the shadow they cast

But they sang songs about casting no shadows! *is beaten*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell's Greatest Hits

Marvin Gaye...well, we know his story. Tammi's is a little more obscure and nobody's really been able to flesh out all those awful rumours behind her death. And in spite of their tragic fucked-up-ed-ness as human beings -- sweeping songs of devotion, probably my favorite Motown of all.

Guided By Voices, Bee Thousand

Wherein the love-hate relationship comes to a boil. It'd be easier now thanks to the new "director's cut" of BT.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

shirley and dolly collins, anthems in eden--would address the "oral" and performative quality of ballad singing, the appropriations and reinventions of british traditional music in 19th century and its ideological baggage (also institutional contexts, from cecil sharp house to the BBC funding the firt performance of "anthems in eden"), the "early music" phenomenon idea and practice, shirley's sussex roots, analysis of dolly's arrangements and the qualities of the "imperfect" historical instruments used, thematics of the "song story" (WWI, lost eden of prewar rural england, female subjectivity in traditional ballads, notions of romance and courtly love).

of course this isn't a rock record so no one would care.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i should say 19th and 20th century (cf ballad revival of 18th-19th centuries, left-wing "folk song revival" of midcentury, appropriation of folk elements into "art music" i.e. williams/butterworth/britten, etc.)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'd LIKE to do (ho-hum) MX-80 Sound's Hard Attack, but, as Stewart warned, it's unlikely that more than a handful of folks would care to read it. To me, that LP exists in a vacuum, a universe unto itself: Unlike Tusk or Thriller or Paul's Boutique or so many more of the fine LPs already mentioned, there's no "back story." No sociological or political context to fit it into - not that I'm even well-read enough to convincingly do so, if there were. Historically, the only comparable albums - the debuts of Pere Ubu, Debris and the like - are comparable more because of what they AREN'T (and time/place) than any actual similarity. If Hard Attack had never existed, So I'd be unable to do anything other than describe the music, break it down to its components, and how amazing it is that such a unique artifact could be assembled from many fairly familiar elements cross-combined in a wholly UN-familiar way (its most notable distinction) and write the whole thing up in a cerebral-yet-imagistic fashion. I personally would enjoy reading an in-depth analysis of ANY album written in such a fashion, but such an approach would likely be considered too soul-less for a lot of folks to wish to read, let alone write.

And finally, not to mention any names and overinflate any egos, but I gotta say that if I were rich or a publisher (I'm neither), DOZENS of your proposed books would be commissioned immediately!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Heavens, whatever albums did you and Mr. Matos decide I should write on?

hahahahahhahaa.

begins with "mel..."
ends with "...ness"

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Melanie C, Spiciness!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought about this more: Stereolab Emperor Tomato Ketchup (“nabisco’s story of the 90s”), Cocteau Twins Blue Bell Knoll (comparative examination of fantasy worlds in pop music), Wolfie Awful Mess Mystery (“why Midwestern teenagers are cooler than coastal teenagers”), Material Issue International Pop Overthrow (“more reasons why Midwestern teenagers are cooler than coastal teenagers”), Trashcan Sinatras Cake (most just pun exegesis), 10,000 Maniacs Hope Chest (how increasingly m.o.r. moaners archivally revealed themselves as having been the best and strangest new-wave outfit of the early 80s), Rufus Wainwright Poses (possibly in the form of a romance novel), the Buffy musical soundtrack (apologies to sinker), Adult. Resuscitation (lots of stuff about A Flock of Seagulls and then “nyah nyah nyah” repeated for fifty pages), Men without Hats Rhythm of Youth (lots of political material, plus illustrated with stills from the NES version of Bionic Commando), Slowdive Souvlaki (though more about the Halstead draw-together of shoegazing and secretly-country pop conventions; possibly dude-from-Lambchop should write that instead), Richard Youngs Sapphie (carefully-researched Woolf-style biography of the dead dog it’s dedicated to), and most importantly My Favorite Love at Absolute Zero (whole timely story of 80s revivalism and how the one part people often fail to revive is the embarrassing Morrissey-was-funny part). I have actually written about thirty pages of that last one, in the form of a "short" essay that got way out of control.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait fuck: Red House Painters self-titled with rollercoaster on cover!!!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

begins with "mel..."
ends with "...ness"

I would happily do this! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)

...even if they were destined to sell only three copies! (Your mother, yourself, and me.)

Myonga Von Bountiful (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I would enjoy doing Leonard Cohen's 80s masterpiece I'm Your Man - since the songs have so many layers - it seems like one could spend many pages excavating them. Also maybe Chingy's Jackpot, which I was listening to again this morning.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to see Nabisco write all of those books!

Me, I can't think of a single album I'd do a good job writing about. Maybe The Visitors? I don't know.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Men without Hats Rhythm of Youth

OMG who would we have to sleep with to make this happen?

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Kenickie — At The Club

And, if I can suggest one for somebody else - I'd get Chris Roberts to do Dexy's Don't Stand Me Down.

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

NICE. That would be grand.

Nabisco's ideas are most worthy. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Willie Nelson's Redheaded Stranger

y'know, cuz it's perfect. and made in Texas.

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"Or great soul albums--"Buying a Book" by Joe Tex; the first Swamp Dogg album; Burke's "King Solomon"; etc."

eddie, are these even in print?
god, i'd love to be buying a book about joe tex...

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

When they allow folks to write on a single song instead of an album, I'll volunteer to do "The Passenger."

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"Tusk" = Rashomon.
there's a great part in one of them Annie Liebovitz books, where F-Mac is talking about a photoshoot in bed. the Nicks and Buckingham quotes make it out that they were in alternate universes at the time.

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I must say "C'mon Kids" is an interesting choice despite being a great album. I was very tempted to say "Giant Steps" for this thread but it strikes me that there isn't a whole lot to say about the Boos. I believe the most interesting thing about them was their music and that's about it.

(PS they are one of my favourite bands in teh evah).

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

shirley and dolly collins, anthems in eden ... of course this isn't a rock record so no one would care.

You got me to pull it off the shelf and listen to it, though.

I vote for English Settlement as the best XTC record, since it's the most transitional. Or Jules Verne's Sketchbook, because I'm obsessed with (over)analyzing Partridge's demos. But Skylarking would sell the best.

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

love's secret domain as the soundtrack to and inspiration of pedro almodóvar's "acid house" film.

it's tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Mazzy Star 'She Hangs Brightly'

dave q (listerine), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Boredoms, Vision Creation Newsun

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Nabisco, when Chris P and I were bandying about if-I-were-editing-the-series ideas the one I picked for you was New Order's Substance

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

other ILX types I bandied about: Jess on The Lexicon of Love or Kaleidoscope, Andy Kellman on Metal Box, Dan Perry on Disintegration, Dave Q on Sabbath's Vol. 4 (or any of the first four, really)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

and Daddino on 69 Love Songs, and Tom E on Different Class (or Revolver or Ziggy Stardust--I wanted a London album that took class and accents into account)

but all these were basically top-of-head ideas

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

what, no love for the new von bondies?

Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah whatever

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry nick that was an x-post

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

where did that come from, Nick?

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is great. I love you guys. I still don't think I have an album, though. Albums that have variously contended for my favorite album ever (Stereolab, Dots and Loops, Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation, Steve Reich, Music for 18 Musicians) I just can't imagine dragging a whole book out of. "That part there, uh, kinda sounds neat, ya know?"

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I would most definitely defer to any/everyone on all these except the last two:

This Heat - Deceit
The Embarrassment - Heyday
Mission of Burma - Vs.
Tricky - Maxinquaye
Throwing Muses - S/T (either one!)
Lake of Dracula - S/T
Veruca Salt - Eight Arms to Hold You

Nabisco - LINE BREAKS, SON!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, maybe I could do Millions Now Living Will Never Die?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Selected Ambient Works 85-92, even if its a bunch of fanciful lies.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Personally, I would like to do "All Lights Fucked On The Hairy Amp Drooling" by Godspeed You Black Emperor!. The crazy theory is that it doesn't exist and never has. Think about it. Once you come across all the obscurity of (at least their first) records, Godspeed You Black Emperor! is an intensely humorous band. The way they suddenly move the exclamation tag in their name, re-christening themselves as Godspeed You! Black Emperor, and all the silly indie kids sit and ponder what this could mean.Tthe way they use silly, silly samples in BBF3 and East Hastings from Slow Riot and F#A#oo respectively. There are so many things. And what would make this obscure band even more obscure? By having once issued 33 cassettes by the name of "All Lights Fucked On The Hairy Amp Drooling". The theory is that they made that one up at least after they made F#A#oo. Think about it. They're fooling us all! OMG!!!1

jonas siig (plast), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh right, I forgot that I thought about doing Stardust. But I'm not really the one who could tackle that best.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Veruca Salt - Eight Arms to Hold You

I forgot David R is the one here who shares my love for the Veruca Salt. Dave, if you write the book, can I do the forward? Or the illustrations?

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Might be stretching the concept of an "album" a little, but I would jump at the chance of doing a full-length book on the four volumes (99 loss songs and one redemption song) of Dave Godin's Deep Soul Treasures series. I'm planning to do a considerably briefer precis on the blog next week, but this has actually (intentionally?) turned out to be a four-volume monument/epitaph to one man's life which managed to change the minds of just about every doubting (Carla) Thomas about what exactly is meant by "deep soul." The cumulative story it tells is a tragedy to rival Tristan und Isolde. And given that the man coined the term "Northern soul" he was at least in part indirectly responsible for bringing Laura and me together. The missing link between Peter Guralnick and Walter Benjamin.

What do you think?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 January 2005 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I say go for it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Or great soul albums--"Buying a Book" by Joe Tex; the first Swamp Dogg album; Burke's "King Solomon"; etc."

eddie, are these even in print?
god, i'd love to be buying a book about joe tex...

I don't think "Buying a Book" is in print--I burned a copy recently from a friend's pristine LP. I think the first Swamp Dogg LP is available, on a twofer with "Rat On" or something. "King Solomon" should be available, reissued w/ extra trax. Maybe Ace or someone has the Tex LPs available, I don't know. I bought a nice LP of "Bumps and Bruises" recently.

I've been into some stuff from the early '70s lately, like Thomas Jefferson Kaye's "First Grade" (an album I've burned for many people after I started talking it up), and the first Manfred Mann's Earth Band LP, the one with "Captain Bobby Stout" and "Please Mrs. Henry." Those are both such singular records--I'd love to know more about them myself.

I'd also like to write about Gary Stewart's "Out of Hand." Freddie Hart's awesome "The Neon and the Rain." Bobby Womack's "Fly Me to the Moon" and "My Prescription," two records that were recently reissued as a twofer and in my opinion the best Womack ever. I dunno, has 33 1/3 done the Big Star records? I guess the new biography covers the making of those well? Anyone read it? I hear that a USA publisher might do that one here--it was published UK.

I'd like to delve into the making of my favorite Elvis Presley record, the soundtrack to "Clambake." That would be choice--examining the obviously fluctuating weight of EP in that movie. Who came up with the idea of having EP and that other guy sing a song about cash, "Who Needs Money," on two motorcycles as they drive thru Florida? I find this endlessly fascinating, and it'd be a real challenge to make it so for readers, you know. Why is "Confidence" such an obvious ripoff of Sinatra's "High Hopes"? Did Sinatra ever hear this? The scene in which Elvis and many girls lather up the boat with water-resistant goop while singing "Hey, Hey, Hey," which changes keys about 10,000 times--how did this come about, what mind could conceive it?

Of course too I'd like to write about more, ah, canonical stuff, like the first Moby Grape album, "Notorious Byrd Bros.," etc. The Beach Boys' "Love You" seems like a good choice--was Brian Wilson actually watching a lot of Johnny Carson when he wrote the song?

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

>>Oh, I'd want to write about something like the Miracles' "City of Angels," which would have an audience of about 18 people. But it's worth writing about if anything is.

Los Angeles does not want it's secretes revealed. Try to write this book, and Los Angeles will rise up like rotten tentacle and drag you down into its sludge.

Thanks for listening.

Love,

Los Angeles (And when next in town, be sure to visit the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim!)

mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

and Daddino on 69 Love Songs

Naaah, that's totally Josh Kortbein territory.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Millions would make for great writing! Back when we were having post-rock threads I kept being amazed that foreign takes on the thing seemed to differ so much from what it was like to actually be around Chicago at the time; doing Millions as a way of talking about that whole scene would be terrific.

I’d like to see the Violent Femmes’ first done up by three people: a boy born in 1970, a boy born in 1980, and a boy born in 1990. Alternately: If You’re Feeling Sinister, by Cozen, a Londoner, and an American.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think "Buying a Book" is in print-

i would swear to god this got reissued on cd recently. it's a great record.

i would buy 10,000 copies of a nabisco-penned "millions" book if he promises to elaborate on his poetics of post-rock theory.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

doing Millions as a way of talking about that whole scene would be terrific.

Yeah, that's sort of what I was imagining. Although when the album actually came out, I was technically in college in Michigan and totally out of touch with whatever scene was actually happening at the time. But yes, I think it'd be a good way of discussing the various trends at play.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i would NOT buy a "69 love songs" book b/c the problem w/the book would likely be the same as the problem w/the album--its facile schematics, cutesiness, etc.

xpost

i don't know that the post-rock "scene" (as in, an inventory of the major players and their careerist wanderings) would be the most interesting aspect; rather, i'd like to read about the "post-rock" aesthetic and how it grew out of a particular moment in indie music and perhaps the culture in general. i guess there might be something significant to its happening largely in chicago.

fuck it, nabisco should totally write this book.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a poetics of post-rock theory? I think the furthest I ever got on here was like "screw you, it doesn't suck, you just have to listen to it like Martin Denny or something."

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Liz Phair, "Exile in Guyville." Wait, would I have to sleep with her?

mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"Chapters Four, Five, and Eight: That 'Even when I was twelve' Line"

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

you DO TOO have a poetics of post-rock theory. i don't think you used the word "poetics" at all, but i think it's appropriate. you posted it on some post-rock or tortoise thread which i doubt a search would discover too easily. actually it's probably one of the most exciting things i've ever read on ILM.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, sorry, that's a random post: Class, etc. pt. 4 - Did post-rock "kill" indie? (Also, did it realign the "rhythmic impulse" towards an alternative to funk-based rhythms?)

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I’d like to see the Violent Femmes’ first done up by three people: a boy born in 1970, a boy born in 1980, and a boy born in 1990

I'd like to see someone do Violent Femmes' 3 even though it seems like nobody knows that record at all.

Nabisco's idea is pretty genius though, except I'd roll the age of the first boy back enough that he was in his late teens when it came out. Say, 1965 (so he'd be 17 in '82).

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Seventeen might be too old for that album! Let's say 14. By the time you're 17 there tends to be at least one girl somewhere that you think might be willing to have sex with you; 14/15 strike me as the peak of not seeing any possible sequence events that could lead to your not dying a virgin.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Liz Phair, "Exile in Guyville." Wait, would I have to sleep with her?


shit, let me know if that presents a problem, and I'll take on *that* project, mott...

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Seventeen might be too old for that album! Let's say 14. By the time you're 17 there tends to be at least one girl somewhere that you think might be willing to have sex with you; 14/15 strike me as the peak of not seeing any possible sequence events that could lead to your not dying a virgin.

Hrm. I don't see that album as being about anger/despair at the inevitability of dying a virgin. I see as anger/despair about just about everything involving a relationship. I just think 17 year-old males do the anger thing considerably better than 14 or 15 year-olds.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW...

I was born in '74, and I actually did hear the album when it was barely a year old (thanks dad), and I was pretty familiar with it at the time (because it's catchy and, let's face it, a 7 or 8 year-old is tickled to death by the word "fuck" in a song), but I didn't really reach the level of appreciating the album from a personal identification standpoint until I was probably 16 or 17 finishing up high school in the very early 90s.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

hey thanks nabisco!

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

personally I would pick the comsat angels' 'waiting for a miracle' or the sound's 'from the lion's mouth'. I never trusted my writing on b&s, too close to the bone.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot David R is the one here who shares my love for the Veruca Salt. Dave, if you write the book, can I do the forward? Or the illustrations?

MARTIN! I'm thinking of about maybe 96 6-panel pages about the love quadrangular between the members of the Salt w/ Dave Grohl (in person, making out w/ Louise at every opportunity like he's Paul Rudd in Wet Hot American Summer) & the Loud Family's Scott Miller (in spirit, w/ Nina G in her bedroom wearing air traffic control headphones cross-legged on the bed looking up wistfully at the ceiling while clutching her vinyl copy of Lolita Nation, with a Pretty in Pink poster off to the right behind her - she does this after every tussle w/ Louise) making some impact as well. Louise is wearing a sexed-up version of Metallica's Metal Up Your Ass shirt throughout the whole thing. And Bob Rock is actually one of those cute/evil shapeshifting things from a Jim Woodring story. Blow It Out Your Ass will also have to get some love in here somewhere. You run w/ that, & I'll script the pages Stan Lee style. ("Why, that is a Posies Crocodile Cafe bootleg I have NEVER seen before! But I heard that the version of 'Golden Slumbers' on that is QUITE DOPE! NO, DO NOT TOUCH THE HI-FI! You will UPSET the delicately-balanced quarter on the tone arm! I MUST FIND more Scotch tape!")

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually wrote the editor once to pitch a jay-z "Vol. 3" book.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to delve into the making of my favorite Elvis Presley record, the soundtrack to "Clambake."

fuck, i would seriously shell out money to read that, eddie!

i'd like to write about:

disco not disco
the first couple bikini kill eps
any little richard hits collection
p.i.l.'s metal box

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

You damned punk rocker. (A compliment.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoa David, slow down. One espresso really would have been enough.

And sure, love for Blow It Out Your Ass plus also the fantastically overlooked and utterly perfect "All Hail Me" and the fairly brilliant "Spiderman '79."

It will also be important for the Venitian blinds in Louise's room to be blinds made by Levolor. You know, just for the people who actually get the obtuse pun that is "Number One Blind."

That's right, my copy is on Minty Fresh and not DGC. I should win some kind of prize I reckon.

martin m. (mushrush), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

MM, I was dead tired when I wrote that! You don't want to see me hepped up, I reckon.

(Can we pretend "25" didn't happen?)

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

In an absurd fit of inspiration, I am actually trying to figure out how I'd set up a graphic novel based on Soft Bulletin (seriously) cause I think I might actually do that regardless of whether or not the 33 1/3 series cares. ;)

As such, yes I think you'd need to script the 8 Arms story. I wouldn't want to have another bit-off-more-than-I-can-chew nervous breakdown.

(What's "25?")

martin m. (mushrush), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm afraid I will never change.
It's okay, I am not ashamed.
I can say that my bed is made.
You can bend me, shape me any way.
You can bend me, shape me any way you want me.

I maintain I am not in pain.
How I try not to place the blame.
I came late to an early game.
You can bend me, shape me any way.
You can bend me, shape me any way.
You can bend me, shape me any way.
You can bend me, shape me any way you want me.

When I was five, I took a dive.
When I was ten, I walked again.
When I was fifteen, I kept my motor clean.
When I was twenty, I got plenty.
When I was twenty-five...
When I was twenty-five...

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(Well, the cat's out of the bag now. I was pretending it didn't happen by feigning ignorance.)

martin m. (mushrush), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Mott The Hoople, "Mott" - the angles could include...

- great album destroys great band
- interesting arrangements (I liked what Chuck Eddy wrote about the quiet songs sounding like what rock 'n' roll would have sounded like in 1920...)
- the notion that Ian Hunter was actually seven years older of his reported age of 26 when he wrote and performed these songs; when I was in my mid-20s, I remember thinking that some of the material (especially "The Ballad Of Mott The Hoople") sounded way too world weary for someone of that age to write
- how in college in the mid-1990s I vowed that I would marry the first woman who was impressed that I liked MTH...only to have my roommate's girlfriend (now his wife) come into the room one evening and comment approvingly of the MTH CD on my CD rack

John Fredland (jfredland), Saturday, 15 January 2005 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Who must I kill to make Alex in NYC's Devo book a reality?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 15 January 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin, you forgot the "I'm spraching your Deutsch" winky after your parenthetical! ALL IS LOST!

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 January 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

eddie- be expecting an email requesting that Joe Tex and Thomas Jefferson Kaye from you. along that line, Gene Clark's No Other would also fall into that 18 people care album.
mind reels about buying a book about Buying a Book.

Beta (abeta), Sunday, 16 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Forget what I said earlier.

The Avalanches, Since I Left You.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I could do an excellent "Return to the 36 Chambers".
I would like funding, please.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd KILL to do one on the Avalanches, but I don't think there'll be any repeat authors, which is good, but still . . . (sigh)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

the Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady or
the Descendents - Milo Goes To College or
the Old 97's - Wreck Your Life

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Max Tundra Runs My Life Update: Coincidence #697B

Sitting on L train around 3:30 am, listening to Mastered by Guy at the Exchange. Train stuck. Suddenly remember that I grabbed a book on the way out, for precisely this eventuality. What book was it? Dig around in bag: it's Flann O'Brien's The Third Policeman. Read. Read. Remember why I enjoyed this book so much. Then get to the point where the story diverts from the real into the fantastical. It happens in one sentence! One critical sentence: "It was some change that came upon me or upon the room, indescribably subtle, yet momentous, ineffable."

Which is the only lyric to the song "M.B.G.A.T.E."

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
ever since Beta turned me on to "Paebiru," I want to find out/write about that.

"Elis & Tom" would be good--one of my half-dozen favorite albums, and what's ever been written about it?

If you could do a book on a rock-movie, Bloodstone's insane, inane "Train Ride to Hollywood" would be a gas too. It's just unbelievably stupid, and I'd love to know exactly who said, "Let's get...Bloodstone...to star in a movie that's a harmony-group's dream sequence about being porters on a train to Hollywood filled with Bogart-W.C. Fields-Clark Gable-impersonators, with several rousing musical numbers..."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Mmm, SAW 85-92, Discovery and The Present Lover have been taken. :( So Immer then or Deep Space, something not so...classic rock (mind you I loved the Exile On Main Street 33 1/3)

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
"I Believe in You" from Spirit of Eden.

Yes, just that one song.

PB, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Tom Petty - Damn the Torpedoes

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and Marches

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

I still want to do my Geto Boys book!

Legroom at the Vista (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

I had pitched Tori Amos "Little Earthquakes" but got a no. Wanted to pitch "Rid of Me" but was advised someone else already was. Maybe I should pitch "The Downward Spiral" or something./

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

someone should do a series of even shorter books on 12 inch remix.

i like how everything's all about tiny books these days. it's too bad it didn't coincide with the tiny knapsack craze of the late 90's.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

if only to force myself to get to the bottom of some conflicting ideas and some how and why's in my own head id happily take on Huggy Bear's

then theres the just plain obvious:
syd barrett's the madcap laughs
television personalities don't the kids just love it
jamc's psychocandy
sonic youth bad moon rising or evol (unless i wanna take up a cross and try for nyc ghosts and flowers)

bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Love Beach: Emerson Lake & Palmer

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

This has become my favorite parlor game. I wanna write about Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend."

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Steely Dan - The Royal Scam

Definitely would have a long section on zombies roaming around midtown NYC.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I'd write a short book on Heart Of The Congos or Gentlemen Take Polaroids .

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Bryter Later , mentioned upthread by someone, is a great idea. Though I'm sure Pink Moon would be the actual Nick Drake record that will get a real life book as that's the one most folks tend to talk about the most.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

heck, I oughta pitch 'em. This thread has been inspirational. Really, the two I wanna do more than any other are the prev. mentioned "City of Angels" and the Everly Brothers's "Two Yanks in England," which I've written about in an upcoming piece on the new Big Star album/bio as the roots o'powerpop. Because I'm a fool and gotta have my particular pet theory...

And, reading Shapiro's great book on disco yesterday, I thought about doing Chic's "Real People" again. Has that been done?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Ones I could definitely do a whole book on:
The Afghan Whigs, Gentlemen
De La Soul is Dead
Kraftwerk, Trans-Europe Express
Drive Like Jehu, Yank Crime

probably too obvious:
Stones, Let It Bleed, Double Nickels..., Rain Dogs, Live at Leeds

"Split single" books about two related albums that probably aren't meaty enough for a book on their own would be fun too:
Flaming Lips, In a Priest Driven Ambulance/Mercury Rev, Yerself Is Steam
or: NaS, Illmatic/Main Source, Breaking Atoms
or:Dr. Octagon/Ultramagnetic MC's, Critical Beatdown

I'd love to do Wowee Zowee, but I'm sure it would be a distant third to Matt and Raymond's hypothetical versions (Matt, you should DEFINITELY do a book). For that reason, I'm tempted to pick a different Pavement album, but OTOH I don't think I could write 40k words on any of their other albums...

casey (t. fiend), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

The Entertainist - Gonzales
Modus Operandi - Photek
Still Life - Van der Graaf Generator
Ironman - Ghostface Killah
Aladdin Sane - David Bowie
UFOrb - The Orb
Complete Recordings - Robert Johnson
Play With Toys - Basehead

I Ain't No Addict, Whoever Heard of a Junkie as Old as Me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

what album would you pay to read about in the 33 1/3 book series?

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't care about the album but the writer.

I Ain't No Addict, Whoever Heard of a Junkie as Old as Me? (noodle vague), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

"Obv Matos and I were discussing this a few days ago (including what books we'd have Ned or Nabisco or whoever write)."

I think this part of the thread is an interesting one that we should run with again: what album would you propose that some one else in particular (ILXOR or otherwise) write about?

"i would NOT buy a "69 love songs" book b/c the problem w/the book would likely be the same as the problem w/the album--its facile schematics, cutesiness, etc."

Yr half-right here I think Amateurist - the wrong writer would reduce the album to facile schematics and cutsiness and write about it in the same manner. Josh however would be exactly the right person to write about - did you ever see his stuff about it on Josh Blog? I would think you especially would appreciate his approach!

Having said that, I think the Merritt-related album I would prefer to see done for the series would be The Future Bible Heroes' Memories of Love, not just because I prefer it, but because an exploration of its "facile schematics" would I think make for a fantastic book - it's got that really tight unity in concept/sound/lyrics/performance going... (translation: it's the Merrit-related album I would do).

(on a related note I wonder if the album i would end up choosing for myself would be one of the first Blue Nile albums. Madonna's Erotica would be a fun one too)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

"Mott"--Mott the Hoople

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

Roxy Music Country Life

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

the only ones

Michael B, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

Larry Jon Wilson's "New Beginnings" (now that LJW is being rediscovered by the country-soul folks around here). One of the great weird southern-liberal albums.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

And, reading Shapiro's great book on disco yesterday, I thought about doing Chic's "Real People" again. Has that been done?

Not as a 33 1/3, but Daryl Easlea's book "Everybody Dance: Chic and the Politics of Disco" goes into each album pretty in-depth. If you can bear a bit of heavy-handed socialist political grousing, a great book.

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Queen, A Night at the Opera.
Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, Fabulosos Calavera

(NB: These might actually be the same album.)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.slayground.net/yourgirl/wallpapers/amy2.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

A Kate Bush version would be fab. Hounds of Love seems like the obvious choice, thematically The Dreaming would be wonderful as well.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

king missle-mystical shit

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
The search function is really pissing me off right now...the other, more recently updated thread about this series apparently doesn't exist anymore. Anyway, I'm about 3/4 of the way done with the Use Your Illusion book and I've got to say that I'm pretty disappointed so far. The whole "don't look up any information" stance regarding GNR is pretty pointless since it's a book ABOUT the band (and the two albums), and even though I was only three years old in 1991, I don't feel like I've learned anything about the "atmosphere" of the time that I didn't already know, despite the author's attempts to put the releases in context. I'm hoping maybe he'll tie things up around the end of the book, but so far it's been fairly uninteresting and uninformative.

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 12 May 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

The thread with comments from 2006 and early 2007 might still exist, but the google search and the ilx direct search can't seem to search 3 character or less terms.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 12 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I used the word "series" in a an ilx search and found:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=21518

curmudgeon, Saturday, 12 May 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

jerry lee lewis - live at the star club

whatever, Saturday, 12 May 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Probably the Boo Radleys "C'mon Kids." Such a weird mess. I kept listening to it, over and over, knowing that the songs were odd and aggressive. In context, it was such an odd response to Britpop.

paulhw, Saturday, 12 May 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Coltrane - "Giant Steps"

It was the first jazz record I ever heard and I think I've heard everything since then through some kind of GS lens. I'd love to work out the way that happened.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

i've only read the ok computer one; it was rather a disappointment

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

There is another thread about which ones were crap, although my search did not reveal it.

I've recently finished Ric Menck's book about The Notorious Byrd Brothers (ok, "finished" might be stretching the truth a bit). Point is that the parts I liked best (and the reason I bought the book is that I am a huge fan of Ric's) were his personal interaction with the record and his personal story about how he came to find and treasure the album enough to write a "whole" book about it.

I think I have decided I just don't really like this series of books.

It's great for those of you who get paid to write them and I still have a couple on order anyway but I think the most interesting ones would be where the writer had, for whatever reason, a striking level of intimacy with or knowledge of, the album in question.

Ideally it would be cool to have someone like Butch Vig or Steve Albini write about some record they did but then because they are not impartial to theoretical journalistic standards, it could get awfully self-serving rather quickly ("and then I showed Kurt this riff...").

HOOS, I like the Giant Steps answer, both because I love that record too, although personally I worked my way back to it from the later Trane stuff (but is still the one I recommend to Trane n00bs). I also like the idea of you working out your process etc. and describing in detail your personal involvement, reactions down to where/how you happened to acquire the record etc.

That was the most interesting part of Ric's book, IMO (as I said in the other thread, I had just finished the exhaustive Einarson book, so Ric didn't really break a lot of new factual ground). (note to Ric: I love you man, please don't send me another angry e-mail).

One interesting thing about this thread is that, as I understand it, most of the writers pitch multiple books either at once or at different entry calls, and picking just one is a bit daunting actually.

There are a lot of records I would pick that I just LOVE and would love to blather on about but the fact is, I don't know anything more about Bird With Strings than anyone else does (and probably way less!). The records I had any personal real-life involvement with would probably end up seeming, if not actually BEING, self-serving and while a couple actually are of the echelon worthy of the series, most are not.

I think I would have to pick Earth Wind & Fire's That's The Way of the World because I would actually have to edit out vast amounts of personal meaning and voluminous personal biographical details just to fit it into one a them tiny ass little books.

Saxby D. Elder, Sunday, 13 May 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

at the risk of being crass, how do these books sell?

m coleman, Sunday, 13 May 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002VGC.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Sunday, 13 May 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Little Feat's debut

QuantumNoise, Sunday, 13 May 2007 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Depeche Mode's "Construction Time Again". Because it's never been covered in any of those "canon" works before (although there is of course a very comprehensive documentary on the recent remaster)

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 13 May 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I would want to write about A Tribe Called Quest's The Low End Theory, as it was the first album I heard that made me go "Wow, this is way better than anything else I've ever heard!", but there's already an ATCQ book for that corny first album I never liked much. My second pick, Outkast's ATLiens is also stymied, but I like Aquemini a great deal better than Peoples Instictive Travels and the Yada Yada Yada, so that one isn't quite as offensive to me. I guess my next choices would be Michael Jackson's Thriller, which I'm surprised hasn't been given the treatment already, GZA's Liquid Swords, and Isaac Hayes' Hot Buttered Soul.

The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh.... Jay-Z Unplugged. There we go.

The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

DO IT. (IE, propose it next time around.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Jay-Z's Unplugged special was very tied to me realizing that MAINSTREAM RAP IS NOT EVIL (OMG! He's working with the Roots and wearing a Che Guavera shirt, he must be okay!), so I have a lot to say about it, even if I didn't buy the actual CD until a couple years ago. Plus all sorts of other contextual ish. I think I could write a damn book about it.

The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

Plus, it's something I discovered at its point of relevance, as opposed to most of my other favorite albums.

The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

The funny thing is it took, like, another year for my Talib Kweli-listening ass to admit I loved every second of it.

The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

I could write quite a bit about Counting Crows' This Desert Life. It sparked my messageboard addiction, comforted me during my lonely junior high year and somehow found its way into a large junk pile just last year...It's interesting how something once so valuable and important becomes useless within a matter of years.

Tape Store, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

buckner and garcia - pac man fever

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

the wisdom of snrub

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

Reviving this, out of interest.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:43 (fourteen years ago)

I pitched a Talk Talk one a few years ago; got through a couple of rounds of 'auditions' / consideration but not the final hurdle.

If I were to pitch another one I'd have to think a lot about it, as I'd want to write about the industry / production primarily, rather than a record I necessarily love.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:52 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah. I think having an angle and particular access to hitherto exclusive information would be a must. I could name any number of albums I love and would enjoy writing about, but it's also important to remember YOU ARE WRITING A BOOK about it and need to have something worthwhile to say about it other than gushing prose about how marvellous it is. Nick, I could see you doing something like 65DaysOfStatic, although they're probably not really canon enough to merit a book of that kind.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:05 (fourteen years ago)

I like Tim's question: "I think this part of the thread is an interesting one that we should run with again: what album would you propose that some one else in particular (ILXOR or otherwise) write about?"

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)

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Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)

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Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)

I'm bummed that Fugazi's "In on the Killtaker" has been shortlisted a few times but never makes it. I wish someone would do that one.

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:38 (fourteen years ago)

is that one considered the fugazi masterpiece or something?

scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

Would love to write books on several YMO or YMO-related albums particularly BGM or Technodelic or Hosono's Paraiso. If anything I just want to know what that guy was on all these years.

Other albums which I'd love to read or write about:
Aqua - Aquarium - mostly curious if the band really did have a sharp sense of humor and lived to be despised or if they were sincere about everything

Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? (I could probably write this one)

ELP - Brain Salad Surgery - I feel like these guys were really trying to write the greatest album in the history of everything, plus their de-facto interview like 20 years after telling stories about meeting Giger and Ginastara are fascinating

They Might Be Giants - any number of early albums, would really like to know what these dudes thought about back then

Cornelius - Point

The KLF - The White Room

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

What would you write about Point?

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

the symbolism that some of the tracks have (especially compared to previous work), and a lot about how it's intended to be more an album of disjointed sounds rather than songs, why it sounds like there are like 10 musicians doing the job of 4 or so, and what compelled the guy to choose certain sounds over others and the feelings they were supposed to evoke, really just an interesting album overall

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure which album I'd pick, but I'd love to read a Robyn Hitchcock book that treated him more like an actual person than a charming collection of eccentricities.

dlp9001, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

xpost I dug it out again and listened to the whole thing in the bath the other night (was it you I was chatting with about this one?) I'd forgotten just how much I love Drop and his cover of Brazil and that last track.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I listened to the Richard D. James album (also maybe an interesting 33 1/3 topic) and this in a row as both were albums that I thought had a very unique piecework feel to them that I hadn't heard in a long while. it seems like Point is holding up much better over the years. I mean I have to give some respect for "Tone Twilight Zone" which is really kind of a sappy instrumental but every single thing is placed so perfectly that I can't help enjoy it. Also the way the album gradually loosens up then completely lets loose is awesome. The songs themselves are very good. Whereas the RDJ album seems like it would just fall apart without all the unsettling effects and drill-like percussion.

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

The High Llamas' Hawaii or Super Furry Animals' Mwng.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Come To Daddy would be a good one. It seems to encompass everything RDJ was trying to do at the time.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Man, if Sinker did one on Dragnet or Y, I would buy five copies instantly.

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housebroken in a broken home (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Super Furry Animals - Rings Around The World.

Turrican, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

Come To Daddy would be a good one. It seems to encompass everything RDJ was trying to do at the time.

yeah probably more interesting than the RDJ album. i'd add Windowlicker in there as well. kinda seems like he basically ran out of ideas/motivation after that

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

Mary Margaret O'Hara - Miss America

Love stream of mic checking (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

We did RDJ Album at DRC recently and it was the melodies and tunes that jumped out. It really didn't seem radical anymore. Just lovely.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

Would probably go for Immer by Michael Mayer if that's allowed.

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

is that one considered the fugazi masterpiece or something?
― scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:03 (3 hours ago)

It's the one they first recorded with Steve Albini in Chicago, before scrapping the whole album and doing it again themselves; and it's also the point where they were being courted by Ahmet Ertegun in the wake of Nirvana-mania. A lot of people consider it their peak period in terms of live performance, too.

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

kinda seems like he basically ran out of ideas/motivation after that Drukqs

billstevejim, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

if i was a good writer i would like to do one about "big science" by laurie anderson

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I know a lot of people stand up for Drukqs but I'm not sure how much innovation there really was there, kinda just seemed like Aphex by-the-numbers

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

I kinda remember 'Drukqs' getting a much less enthusiastic response than its predecessors upon release.

Turrican, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

It came out just a bit late - people had jumped all over the drill'n'bass bandwagon and its axle was broken by that point. It was the first aphex album that didn't completely bowl people over with new ideas, although it still has some great bits

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

It lacked a USP. It's just a compilation of stuff rather than an album with an aesthetic. People didn't know how to consume it. I still don't.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 November 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

drukqs totally had an aesthetic

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

uptempo electronic jams w/distinctly aphex-y melodies and beats set against beautiful prepared piano pieces

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2011 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

Bjork - Homogenic, Post
Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsum
Can - Tago Mago, Future Days
Curtis Mayfield - Curtis
Depeche Mode - Violator
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F♯A♯∞
Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements, Dots & Loops
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Tricky - Maxinquaye
Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers

Moka, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

I have a crackpot theory about Gillian Welch's Time (The Revelator) that I thought I'd like to get off my chest. I started writing the book to see if I could pull it off. I couldn't. But that's the album I'd write about if I had the chops.

DJ Smoove Groothe (staggerlee), Sunday, 20 November 2011 03:58 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like these guys were really trying to write the greatest album in the history of everything, plus their de-facto interview like 20 years after telling stories about meeting Giger and Ginastara are fascinating

These stories are hilarious/totally full of shit.

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:02 (fourteen years ago)

At least the Giger ones are!

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:02 (fourteen years ago)

OR maybe they've just become ridiculous in my imagination over the years. iirc Emerson said Giger had a palatial dining hall with a table made of giant penises and chairs made of human skeletons, and that the toilet in the bathroom was a monster/electric chair hybrid, and all this silly stuff.

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:07 (fourteen years ago)

I'm thinking I should write the Brain Salad Surgery book. It would be my devolved memories of him talking about Giger + (plus) my dad's devolved reminisces of listening to it in college, seeing them live, etc. "Greg Lake held up a Book of Mormon* and said if anyone believed in it, we were all fools and liars. I swear, I was waiting for lightning to hit him. But they did have a really cool drum solo."

*because the concert was in was Salt Lake
**this story was actually about Ian Anderson but I'M USING IT ANYWAY

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:12 (fourteen years ago)

I could also write about how during the synthesizer jam bit of "Karn Evil pt 1 1st impression" I like to imagine a SPACE KNIGHT battling a SPACE MOTH with a SPACE LANCE though that would probably be better suited to a drawing.

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

do you think they would do a 33 1/3 comic book

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

There's a great ELP 33 1/3 book out there waiting to be written. But it's not Brain Salad Surgery.

http://irrelevanttroubadour.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/lovebeach.jpg?w=360&h=360

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 20 November 2011 05:03 (fourteen years ago)

You mean

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9ul9zN2Tf1qdmmiqo1_500.gif

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)


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