I saw GG at a tiny, crappy bar-back-room called Space At Chase back in 1991, and that show was filmed for the beginning of the documentary. I remember seeing cameras wrapped in plastic, and cameramen wearing yellow rain slickers, and thinking "Oh, this bodes well."
The show only lasted about 10 minutes before the cops came; as we all fled the room, trying to avoid getting GG's feces on us, the bartender laughed at us and shouted, "What are you running for? Isn't this what you wanted? Get back in there and party with him!"
So...anybody else ever attend a GG Allin show?
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)
The Space at Chase is still there....called something quite different now.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
Bartender OTM!
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)
Sir, you did not honour the manure-fueled fire.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jon Moshier, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Now THAT's a feat!
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)
You guys slay me.
Favorite moment in Hated: Todd the Director is interviewing Unk (of the band, Pig Pen) about his memories of GG, and Unk describes inviting some girl over to a barbecue where GG was going to be for the purposes of peeing in his mouth. Unk stops himself, saying "Ooh, I mentioned her name, you can edit that out, right?" Todd says "Yes,"....BUT LEAVES IT IN! Har.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 January 2005 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 20 January 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)
As amazing as this documentary is, even more memorable is the "50 minutes of bonus footage" on the dvd. This is a home video Phillips made of GG's last performance. Right after this video, GG had a drug binge and overdosed and died and then they put headphones on his bloated body and had a traditional funeral for him but the drummer was still naked when he helped carry the coffin.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― eman (eman), Thursday, 20 January 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)
His set was supposed to be backed by both Squirrel Bait and Volcano Suns guys, but his behavior during the soundcheck pretty much nixed that idea. I believe he took a shit during the soundcheck, so the club had him on a short leash. He ended up breaking his mic during his set, and the club pulled the plug before he could do too much more damage.
― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 20 January 2005 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 20 January 2005 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)
I am stealing this turn of phrase
― DJ Mencap0))), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh I think you can rest assured that there are plenty more where they came from, Alex!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)
well, quite. superb link. thanks!
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)
Hahahahahahahaha.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)
so I have a queston...
did the dude like eat bran muffins all day or something? I mean who shits THAT MUCH? Every story I read about him involves shit. I knew it was a part of his performance, but he managed to sound check it too?!?
I never saw him and narrowly missed a bad experience. He played a club where I had been sound guy about a month after I quit. Part of the job involved putting away the mics at the end of the night, and in this case, the vocal mic had evidently been in his ass by that point. Ew. I also wouldn't want to the singer for the band playing there the following night.
― chëshy (chëshy f cat), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)
No, but he did "Road Trip" and "Old School." Todd Phillips - he also did a documentary on frat guys that was supposed to be great but went unaired after HBO buried it when they learned that Phillips crossed some "ethical lines" during a hazing ceremony. I have always meant to look for a bootleg of that film. Anyway, yeah, I guess he's an old punk rocker.He was recently in the trades for clashing with Sascha Baron Cohen and getting booted as the director of the "Borat" movie.
Oh, the mic-in-the-ass reminds me of the part in "Hated" where he gets brought in to NYU by some eager students on the program board. His entire appearance consists of him walking out naked and shoving a banana up his asshole. People run screaming; end of "speaking engagement." Genius.
― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― DJ Mencap0))), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)
My favorite moment in "Hated" is when the narrator says, in a completely deadpan monotone: "GG had some of the most devoted fans in the world," as a still photo of a guy with a passed-out GG's dick in his mouth comes on the screen.
This was ridiculous. Anyone else see this recently? It's on Pitchfork.tv this week.
― stephen, Friday, 25 April 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
I've not seen Hated and was a little young to have been able to see him live, but my favorite GG story comes from an interview I read in the early 90s (I believe it was in Alternative Press). The interviewer and GG were having a seemingly (atypical?) intelligent and well-mannered exchange about GG's craft during which he, without warning or provocation, got up from his barstool, urinated on it, and sat back down on it, continuing the conversation as if nothing had happened.
― Pillbox, Friday, 25 April 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)
Who said that was their fave moment? I couldn't find it on the site. Also, what's so ridiculous about it?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 25 April 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)
he managed to sound check it too?!?
LOL
Also, what's so ridiculous about it?
Well, if memory serves, the snapshot that they cut to depicts one of GG's fans smiling into the camera and giving a thumbs up while performing fellatio on GG, who is passed out cold. Under utterly deadpan narration about his "loyal fans."
― Savannah Smiles, Friday, 25 April 2008 17:50 (seventeen years ago)
I'm still confused. Given GG Allin's polymorphous perversity, isn't that just par for the course?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 25 April 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)
Levels of devotion (low to high):
- buying tour t-shirt at gig - searching high & low for 7" and imports and promo materials - attending 3 or more shows during the same tour in different states - cyberstalking forums, blogs, etc. whenever your favorite artist is discussed in an unflattering manner - sucking off said artist when the artist is conscious - sucking off said artist when the artist is passed out
― David R., Friday, 25 April 2008 18:01 (seventeen years ago)
Devotion? Absolutely. Ridiculousness? Um, we ARE talking about GG Allin here, correct?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 25 April 2008 18:03 (seventeen years ago)
I think the guy that's got the dick in his mouth is the "riduculous" part of the equation, but keep on posting about this, because someone's sure to agree with you eventually.
― David R., Friday, 25 April 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)
Well, the reason I "keep on posting about this" is because when I saw a preview screening of Hated (with Phillips in attendance) the ONLY shot that elicited genuine shock from the markedly "avant" audience was that one. They greeted everything else with yuks and ews. But that show generated a lower toned "ohhhhhh" like a bunch of blue-haired biddies with their sense of propriety rocked.
So don't kid yourself that it had anything to do with Allin being passed out. They were appalled because they were seeing a man with a dick in his mouth. A crack whore pissing in Allin's mouth while he barfs up hot dogs? That's good times. But m2m fellatio? This will not stand!
And I suspect the same thing is happening here.
But gee, sorry to take up your precious time with it.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 25 April 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)
Everyone's a homophobe but you, dude. Congrats.
― unperson, Friday, 25 April 2008 18:43 (seventeen years ago)
(Astonished by Kevin's post. Actually gobsmacked).
― Savannah Smiles, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)
gg allin sucks
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:38 (seventeen years ago)
no, his fans do
― max, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:38 (seventeen years ago)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i112/Johnny_Utah26/Stuff/RIMSHOT.jpg
― max, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)
i was just dating this girl until she told me she made out with mearl once... i was like "did he have the hitler moustache at the time?!?!" she said "yes."
fuckin deal breaker, man.
― chaki, Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:46 (seventeen years ago)
well i watched this tonight, i liked it.
the dude w/ dick in mouth was no big deal, honestly. i'm surprised they didn't try to get a little more clarity on gg's ambiguous sexuality but i guess maybe counter to the film's "philosophy" and maybe he just couldn't get anything good out of gg on the subject?
also the people in the hometown were pretty hilarious. the "high school buddy" who shows up for an interview in a motorcycle jacket and aviators. the guitarist who dropped out of gg's band and comes across like a total moron. and some of them were downright scary, like the creepy high school teacher and the naked drummer.
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 April 2008 07:54 (seventeen years ago)
I watched the movie again with my wife last night, and I can be seen, very briefly, two or three times during the Space at Chase footage: once when they pan the crowd, and once walking out the door immediately after the show, and possibly one more time when GG is running around inside performing. I have no memory of owning the hat I'm wearing, but my wife says she remembers it. -- pdf (Phil Freeman),
^^ hero status!!!!
which one are you?!?!?
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 April 2008 07:57 (seventeen years ago)
Watched him through the window at O'Cayz in Madison for long enough to see him piss on the window.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 26 April 2008 08:02 (seventeen years ago)
so is this internet version of the documentary abridged or something? i didn't see a lot of what they were talking about in that review.
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 April 2008 08:06 (seventeen years ago)
You didn't even post on this particular aspect of the film, pdf. So I'm wondering why you're getting so nervous...
the dude w/ dick in mouth was no big deal, honestly.
Thank you!
i'm surprised they didn't try to get a little more clarity on gg's ambiguous sexuality but i guess maybe counter to the film's "philosophy"
THANK YOU!
(genuine thanks; no sarcasm)
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 26 April 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)
Kevin, I doubt people were so appauled by man-on-man action. The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive, as the man was a filthy walking compost heap. And your "blue hair biddies" comment is ageist.
Never saw GG, but it always irritated me how, on talk shows in the '80s at the height of the PMRC nonsense, they'd have GG on--this pathetic, blathering idiot--to represent the side of free speech.
― thirdalternative, Saturday, 26 April 2008 15:14 (seventeen years ago)
>You didn't even post on this particular aspect of the film, pdf.
Because it barely registered with me at the time. You, on the other hand, seem somewhat fixated.
>So I'm wondering why you're getting so nervous...
What's to be nervous about, Mr. Armchair Psychologist? I'm just laughing at your screechy monomania.
― unperson, Saturday, 26 April 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)
You diagnose me with monomania and yet you're not an Armchair Psychologist yourself? Okay.
The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive,
I'd buy that if the tone of the audience hadn't changed so decidedly. And yeah, the biddies comment was shitty of me.
But get back to the music, maaaaaaan (never mind that the music matters less here than it does with Milli Vanilli).
I had a chance to see him in Chicago. The club was called Exit or The Exit. I even want to say I remember the day - Jan. 5 (forget the year). Sadly, I didn't get to go because I couldn't find anyone to drive me into the city from the burbs in inclement weather (and to go see GG Allin).
But I did take a leak in a bathroom in which Allin reportedly asked a girl to piss in a cup so he could drink it.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)
I've seen a little on tee vee...
― Bodrick III, Saturday, 26 April 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LvZd_9aMU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-hR9G1ZO6Q
― am0n, Saturday, 26 April 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)
Whatever happened to Jane Whitney????
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 26 April 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)
"I might rape the guys..."
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 26 April 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)
saw him at the cat club ca. '87 -- gerard cosloy and j mascis in the band. g.g. ate a lot of ex-lax before the show, hurled poop into the audience. even though i was in the back in a ridiculous jean jacket, i later discovered a splotch of brown stuff on the back of the jacket.
shoulda saved it -- i'm sure gg's poop would fetch a lot on ebay nowadays.
ohh, and the show was okay.
― Mike McGooney-gal, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:01 (seventeen years ago)
gerard cosloy and j mascis in the band.
wha????
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)
I used to have a copy of maximum r&r or somesuch magazine with an interview with mascis where he recounts playing for Allin's band.
― Pashmina, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:21 (seventeen years ago)
How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Dead?
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)
Person in talk show audience: GG, you are no good!
GG: I am the greatest! You suck!
x50
Roll credits.
― Bodrick III, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)
Thurston Moore was in that Cat Club lineup, too. I was too scared to go.
― mike a, Saturday, 26 April 2008 20:55 (seventeen years ago)
still waiting for instructions on spotting phil freeman
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 April 2008 20:56 (seventeen years ago)
The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive
I can't believe I actually have to explain this, but the humor in that scene comes from the fact that the narrator is casually mentioning G.G. having a devoted fanbase, which (as David R. illustrated quite humorously), one might usually take to mean obsessive collectors, or even Beatlemania-style screamers, but in fact is illustrated with a matter-of-fact snapshot of a smiling fan giving a thumbs up while blowing this filthy, gnarly scumbag, who is passed out. One assumes sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario (I actually don't recall any point in the film where G.G.'s sexuality is explored at all, but it's been ages since I saw it) - it's just another moment of crusty shock; the gutter punk version of frat house pictures of guys drawing on their passed out friends' faces, maybe.
I have no problem at all with guys blowing each other - I'm all for it. The scene is OBVIOUSLY played for laughs through the contrast between the narration and the visual. Maybe you could argue against the director's intentions, but not with fucking ME for thinking that it's hilarious.
― Savannah Smiles, Sunday, 27 April 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)
Actually, you DO have to explain. Or rather, ONE has to explain. This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.
Yes, of course, I get the humor of the scene (and David R.'s illustration). I think it's funny too. So more power to ya for being all for guys blowing each other and thinking that the scene is hilarious. I applaud both realities. Seriously.
But yet again (gee Phil, guess my monomania was justified after all), in a sold out auditorium of people watching that scene, not a single person laughed even though they had been laughing at everything else up until that point. The scene is indeed obviously played for laughs. And yet...
So one might assume "sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario" (not me, though). But it sure had everything to do with that particular response. And ALL I was trying to do was figure out if that "ridiculous" comment was a species of same.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 27 April 2008 02:50 (seventeen years ago)
I saw GG in Detroit and I fled to the back of the room just like everyone else when the poo started to fly.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)
I think I escaped poo-free, but who knows? Geeg also tossed a bunch of hardware around, which was quite a bit more frightening.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)
The funniest part about the show was that some guy with a fro came out before GG and sang 2 or 3 punkish songs to many boos before he fessed up and taunted the audience with "do you REALLY want GG ALLIN???"
― libcrypt, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:07 (seventeen years ago)
This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.
I can't believe I'm having to clarify this, either... but by "ridiculous" i obviously meant "ridiculously funny" and Savannah Smiles summed up the inherent humor perfectly a few posts up.
― stephen, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:13 (seventeen years ago)
Does that help, Kevin?
― stephen, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)
I read about GG on wikipedia today and I'm rather highly ashamed I know more trivia about him than I do about, well, any other random fucking person ever born, as in "I know about 0 facts about some random person from oklahoma" vs "I know a couple of things about GG Allin" = is there a bullet in that gun can I put it in my mouth
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:18 (seventeen years ago)
As bad as I feel about reading his wikipedia page though I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles with nothing better to do than watch a fucking documentary about this dude
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:20 (seventeen years ago)
Having now watched the documentary on PTV and (browsed) the YouTube clips linked above, I was wondering if anyone could clarify: Did GG ever actually rape anyone onstage, as he claims in the Springer clip? I find this very hard to believe, as it seems violent intervention would have been inevitable before he would have gotten even close to penetration. I would assume he's just full of bluster about the rape thing, but the clips from the doc of him randomly assaulting both men and women have me curious.
― Pillbox, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:27 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, thanx, Stephen. Kisses.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:29 (seventeen years ago)
I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles
-- GG Allin, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:20 (41 minutes ago)
― am0n, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:02 (seventeen years ago)
were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle
― jhøshea, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:19 (seventeen years ago)
i think his music is pretty tuneful but i think he stole all his melodies from hank williams and so on
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:20 (seventeen years ago)
i remember reading abt how he claimed he was going to kill himself on stage and thinking how awful
― jhøshea, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:20 (seventeen years ago)
Early Geeg sounds like a bad version of the Knack. Later Geeg, far less catchy.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:22 (seventeen years ago)
recently a friend accused me of being really into gg allin in high school and i was like i know like two facts abt the guy and ive never heard his music - then i was accused of concealing my embarrassing gg allin fandom
― jhøshea, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:23 (seventeen years ago)
fact
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:47 (seventeen years ago)
was it all just the spectacle
^
― stephen, Sunday, 27 April 2008 05:30 (seventeen years ago)
I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles with nothing better to do than watch a fucking documentary about this dude
what a weird thing to say
― Savannah Smiles, Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:52 (seventeen years ago)
choice b. made great copy for the village voice. and after all the threats about offing himself onstage, he OD'd on dope. what a pussy.
― m coleman, Sunday, 27 April 2008 11:28 (seventeen years ago)
i used to read about this guys antics and think 'why would anybody subject themselves to this?'
― m coleman, Sunday, 27 April 2008 11:30 (seventeen years ago)
but maybe i'm a philistine. or a pussy.
― m coleman, Sunday, 27 April 2008 11:31 (seventeen years ago)
Bite It You Scum is a fucking banger.
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)
'Drink fight and fuck' has always been our Geeg preference.
More unsettling than 'Hated' is the Lisa Suckdog denial clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQysD6MNseU&feature=related
One very good actor or one seriously fucked up bloke
There's a part 2 blockbuster to add to the above
― Fer Ark, Sunday, 27 April 2008 16:29 (seventeen years ago)
^^^^ sorry forgot to mention - this was at a Geeg poetry night.
After his readings, he would entertain guests with impressions and cookery demos if he fancied it. Geeg could cook a mean burger
― Fer Ark, Sunday, 27 April 2008 16:32 (seventeen years ago)
So Kevin, how is it that you were able to read all those "blue hair old biddy"-like people's minds and discern the motivations for their (non-)reactions? In addition to being the most enlightened person in the room, are you also psychic?
― thirdalternative, Sunday, 27 April 2008 17:06 (seventeen years ago)
i chickened out of going to see him at the khyber once. but then i wasn't really a fan or anything. and i just didn't feel like leaving the apartment.
my pal malcom was friends with gg and he supposedly has tons of homemade footage of gg in the woods and and all manner of cock on cock action, but i never saw any of it. can't say i'm disappointed.
the dude who did seriously scare me back then was malcom's friend brian - who was also friends with gg i think - in that "scary junkie who looks like he could stab your eyes out at any minute" kinda way. he was in starvation army. he's dead too. i don't really miss these people. i only really miss the sad, gentle junkies i knew who died. they existed too.
― scott seward, Sunday, 27 April 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)
Phillips's Frat House is on Google Video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7261092316031625877
According to Wikipedia it was nothing so exciting as HBO "burying" it because Phillips crossed ethical lines. It was just that hazing scenes were staged so they didn't show it.
― caek, Sunday, 27 April 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)
http://i28.tinypic.com/2e3bxae.jpg
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 27 April 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)
were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle choice b. made great copy for the village voice. and after all the threats about offing himself onstage, he OD'd on dope. what a pussy. i used to read about this guys antics and think 'why would anybody subject themselves to this?'
yeah, that was pretty much my attitude at the time, too -- even wrote a review of g.g.'s live r.o.i.r. cassette to that effect. but then, i was never much a fan of karen finley performance art schtick or wesley willis indie-rock insanity fetishes either.
in retrospect, though, his music doesn't seem like it was completely horrible. i've known a few people who are even bigger fans of, say, the 4 skins or david allen coe or antiseen or rose tattoo or count bishops than i am, and they liked g.g., too; i can sort of get that -- his music sounded kinda like a way more half-assed version of that stuff. what i never got was the people who said they liked him but didn't seem to have any use at all for rose tattoo/4 skins/bishops/coe/antiseen/etc. that made no sense; they sure weren't going to see him for his songs.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 27 April 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)
Some comments on that YouTube page:
Esplender (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam WHERE IS ALL THE POO!?
touchfinder73 (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam I love all GG Allin, but this stuff is his best.. cherry ass GG Allin.. This rocks and always will... Unfortunately everyone just knows him as the naked pooper... thats what happens to someone after playing for 20 years.. at least he kept it different..
terrorjism (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam this makes gg look like such a cunt
wagner6 (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam Man GG was still attractive in this.
frankcotton (9 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam ha ha! This is back before GG got REALLY crazy.
MNHJUZ (9 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam Is it an axiom that these so-called punk-rockers and anarchists have to be stupid and stinking. They are;they are stinking,dumb,ignorant pieces of rotten sperm.
bedrocker7 (8 months ago) -2 Reply | Spam Hey GG worshippers: after your first child is born, make sure (especially if they're little girls) they know that they deserve to be raped and tortured because that's what their daddy's God/Rock n Roller believed. I want to see how tough you guys are in the ER while the nurses are readying a rape kit for your daughter. What a stupid asshole. BTW GG fans, I'm personally going to slap the shit out of all fast food workers around the country so watch out!
lesleemandoki (8 months ago) +1 Reply | Spam hahahah this is so awkward... this doesn't sound a bit like the poo-eating period of his, which he's most famous for
jdebruhl2 (6 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam Why? Not giving a shit is much easier than caring about you and others. He didnt give a shit because that was the image he was trying to portray. Ive admired great writters. Inventors. Founding fathers like Ben Franklin. Mark Twain. If you admire someone like GG. You really come across as a insecure imbecile. Please...go read a book.
heat4yoass (4 months ago) -2 Reply | Spam LOL This is GG Allin?! I thought he was against corporate shit? Or looking like the way MTV wants you to look or whatever. What a fucking piece of shit hypocrite mother fucker.
― libcrypt, Monday, 28 April 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)
most touching thing in the movie:
if you put merle & gg's moustaches together you get a full moustache. it's like the equivalent of a BFF 1/2 heart locket
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 28 April 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)
I saw him in Chicago at Club Exit on Wells St. w/Squirrelbait and Volcano Suns. It must have been 1986. He didn't have a band with him, he just "sang" along with some taped music as accompaniment. He was first up in the line-up and was pretty bad. He shoved his mike up his butt.
― kwhitehead, Monday, 28 April 2008 02:41 (seventeen years ago)
That's probably the show I couldn't get to.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 28 April 2008 05:01 (seventeen years ago)
I did. Scary intense old school East Village anarcho-angry-junkie crowd. He punched some girl and she stood there with a smile on her face after he did it. I split.
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Monday, 28 April 2008 05:09 (seventeen years ago)
Because you were obviously paralyzed with puritanical fear from the raw homosexuality in the air? (J/K Kevin ;)
Watched "Frat House." It was pretty lame. The Al Goldstein bio doc he produced was pretty great, though.
― Savannah Smiles, Monday, 28 April 2008 06:28 (seventeen years ago)
I missed the GG/Squirrel Bait/Volcano Suns show too, but I remember seeing the flyers lying by the front door at Wax Trax. Saw him perform a few years later in a small room upstairs at Medusa's. He had pissed on himself so much that his attempts to light his pubic hair on fire were doomed to failure.
Also, not a GG concert, but I think it counts: saw him sitting in the audience in the balcony at Cabaret Metro as part of a club full of people who paid to watch a bunch of classic rock and punk video footage, hosted by the Psychotronic guy. There was some Stooges footage (as I recall it was a segue from footage of Chuck Berry doing the song that "1970" copped a verse from), and as soon as Iggy hit the screen GG leaped out of his chair, screaming "Yeah!" in a paroxysm of joy and idol worship. In a lot of ways that was better than seeing GG perform.
― dad a, Monday, 28 April 2008 07:08 (seventeen years ago)
not me, but this was written by a guy who knows people i know. so i'm, uh, two degrees of separation from seeing gg allin dead. which is as close as i wanna be. (actually mike bowling just popped up a few weeks ago on a knoxville message board, posting from prague. we got in an argument about universal health care.)
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 28 April 2008 07:38 (seventeen years ago)
G.G. ELVIS AND THE T.C.P. BAND TO RELEASE DEBUT "BACK FROM THE DEAD" THROUGH MENTAL RECORDS ON JUNE 24 Several punk veterans collaborate to form extreme Punk Rock Elvis tribute. Mental Records is pleased to announce the release of G.G. Elvis and the T.C.P. Band “Back From The Dead” for worldwide distribution on June 24, 2008. This utterly insane group of comedic mutha’ f*ckers manically combines the very best (and worst) of the “King of Rock” Elvis Presley and self-professed “King of Punk” G.G. Allin into a smash up punk rock Elvis tribute the likes of which the world has never seen. We’re talkin’ tight comedy-fused high-intensity music, masterfully mixed with well-known punk rock cover songs of Elvis classics. So in other words… PARTY! Hailing from Oxnard, California (Ventura County just north of L.A.) the band features some of the “Nardcore” nest including members of NOFX, Agression, Bad Samaritans, Ill Repute, Stalag 13 & Dr. Know. Formed in the summer 2006 by punk rock guitarist and Elvis Presley aficionado Tony Cortez (Ill Repute) and the dynamic lead guitarist and punk luminary Dave Cassillas (NOFX, Stalag 13 & Agression), G.G. Elvis and the T.C.P. Band actually began as the musical combo “Punk Rawk Elvis”. After several lineup changes, and some soul searching, Cortez enlisted the services of lead vocalist Eric Lara (Bad Samaritans), legendary punk beat-master Larry White (Agression, Stalag 13 & Dr. Know), bass-man George “Horhay” Snow (Bad Samaritans and Jughead’s Revenge), back up singer “Little Sister” Sara Jo Merin, and the formation of the T.C.P. (Taking Care of Punk) Band was complete. After only three hasty rehearsals, G.G. Elvis and the T.C.P. Band made their live debut in Las Vegas at the infamous BYO Records sponsored Punk Rock Bowling Tournament, and the overly enthusiastic crowd was all shook the f*ck up! Since that fateful day, the band has played many-a-packed house and there ain’t no turnin’ back. “Back From The Dead”, their debut, limited edition scratch n’ sniff release, was recorded at 60 Psycho Hum Recording Studios in Medford, Oregon and was produced by Mental Records co-owner, Doug Hill. It includes the controversial never-before-seen DVD exposé with shocking videos, rare interviews, photos, extras and special features. This explosive, gut-wrenching blend of outrageously tight punk infused Elvis classics will leave many a man balled up on the bathroom floor, hysterically choking on his own vomit and begging for more. Viva la G.G. Elvis!
Personas and Personnel: G.G. Elvis aka Eric Lara – lead vocals (Bad Samaritans) Elvis of Nazareth aka Tony Cortez – guitar (Ill Repute) “Has-Been” Elvis aka Larry White – drums (Agression / Stalag 13) Elvis Vicious aka Dave Casillas – lead guitar (NOFX / Stalag 13) Elvis ’56 aka George “Horhay” Snow – bass (Bad Samaritans / Jughead’s Revenge) Little Sister aka Sara Jo Merin - backing vocals
Website: www.ggelvis.com Myspace: www.myspace.com/ggelvis
― unperson, Monday, 28 April 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)
I saw G.G numerous times and talked to him on phone quite abit...I was in Volcano Suns and he opened for us in chicago...he was awful of course...during soundcheck some girl was in the bathroom and he kicked the stall door open and yelled let me eat your tampon...he had heard we did drink fight and fuck so he and some buddy who were traveling together (they had bought greyhound bus passes to go wherever they wanted on tour) were standing at the foot of the stage as we went thru our set...G.G kept yelling drink fight and fuck...wanting to hop up on stage with us and sing...the more he yelled, the less we wanted to do the song of course...just to annoy the guy...so about half way thru the set he and his bro started chanting "Pussies"...all in all a great night and G.G. was very easy guy to wind up which we always enjoyed doing when there was an asshole around...
A few years later I set up a show in Boston where I and two of my friends were his backing band..."Vanilla Douche"...it took alot of smooth talking to even get the club to let us play...I remember being on the phone with him and telling him it was gonna be "G.G Allin and Vanilla Douche"...after a long pause he said "my god, that is a killer name"...he kept asking to come over to my house to rehearse and as my girlfriend at the time would not let him step into the house I gave him the setlist and told him to show up at soundcheck and we would just run thru it and it would be fine...all the songs took about 30 secs apeice to learn anyhow and as I had seen him perform along with a cassette tape, I figured we would be fine...in alot of odd ways he was a total pussycat and an easy guy to strongarm and push around...unfortunately, when we showed up for soundcheck, G.G. had gotten there a half hour before us and proceeded to break a bunch of chairs and then shit on the floor...this with only a bartender or two there...they cancelled the show and threw him out...never saw or heard from G.G. again.
― cash, Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)
:B
― am0n, Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
that's what I usually do when i show up half an hour before everyone else
― Brio, Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
from an interview w/ live skull in '89 where I asked about their encounter w/ GG
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/GG_live_skull_1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/GG_live_skull_2.jpg
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)
His set was supposed to be backed by both Squirrel Bait and Volcano Suns guys, but his behavior during the soundcheck pretty much nixed that idea. I believe he took a shit during the soundcheck
immense irl lol
― brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)
Nah, not me. Adult humans that get shit on me on purpose might have a tendency to bleed and stop living. I've had Iggy Pop stage-dive sweat on me before, and the singer from Anti-seen bled on me once, but I draw the line at poop. Sorry.
― ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
This Chicago showstopper?
Didn't the Geeg arrive on the greyhound brandishing a half empty bottle of scotch and a grubby miniature dildo in a brown paper bag? Said dildo being quadruple the size of the Geeg tail?
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 29 April 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)
One of my nephew's friends had him hiding out at his house in Tampa, and he offered to introduce me to him. I chickened out. I regret this quite a bit.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 29 April 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)
via the chicago show...noone, not us, or bait was supposed to "back" him...have no idea where any of that came from...noone ever would have been agreed to soemthing so silly...the guy got off a greyhound with, I still remember, his buddy....bloody f. mess...who was up front during his bananarama thing singing to a cassette...BF mess taking pics with some tiny kodak tourist camera like he was at disneyworld and getting an up close of some fucked up goofy...
― cash, Thursday, 29 April 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
ack...by the way, which got me into this mess...our cover of drink fight and fuck is up on our myspace site...volcano suns ect and blah...should you want to hear it...we worked real hard on getting that Fuck into a new hamshire fuc...
― cash, Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)
Bloody Mess from Peoria or somewhere? A geeg clone. We all need them, yes?
Fuck it , I'm English and it's not my cup of tea
Volcano Suns were fucking great btw.
'Balancing Act' would still make it for me.
'Wellness'
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
just in case there was a demand for an acoustic cover of "I Kill Everything I Fuck"
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
Wow.
The Volcano Suns were a great band, I have a load of their records.
I actually like a lot of GG Allin songs but I think I'd have a harder time liking them if he wasn't dead, if that makes any sense.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
Thurston (Moore, bassist for living colour)
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
― chaki, Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:46 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^^^^GREATEST POST IN ILX HISTORY
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
The wikipedia article needs amending here However, his status as a cult figure is such that a number of bands have covered his songs. Among them, Faith No More has covered "I Wanna Fuck Myself", CKY has covered "Bite it You Scum", the 69 Eyes have covered "Gimme Some Head," Beck has covered "Tough Fucking Shit", and The Lemonheads have covered "Layin' Up With Linda". to add Joseph Cotton.
― Willing Travelbury (S-), Friday, 30 April 2010 05:55 (fifteen years ago)
x-post - ha yes, that is awesome
I used to know the director who made Hated and at one point thought it was the greatest thing because he was just so fucking ridiculous but haven't watched it in years. I don't think I would have gone to see Allin irl if you had paid me though.
― Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Friday, 30 April 2010 08:22 (fifteen years ago)
the 69 Eyes have covered "Gimme Some Head,"
this is one of the saddest songs in history, by the way - there's a poignancy to it because it predates GG actually figuring out what's shocking - it sounds like it was written by a guy who's really never done much but suspects there's a whole really transgressive world out there, but the most transgressive thing he can really think of is some head. Hey ,now , girls, I want lip-service/I don't wear a uniform and I'm not in the service/I've been in all day never seein' the sun/but when the sun goes down to the night I come/girls ,girls ,girls ,girls/gimme ,gimme ,gimme some head/I like the nasty things that you do to me in bed. Yes, GG. The incredibly nasty things as for example this really common sex practice that everybody does. I am excited to hear that you don't leave the house til after the sun goes down though! Incredible! Do the authorities know about this?
Really, that this song begins "Hey now, girls," is the sort of thing that, on the wrong day on a big enough sleep deficit, will make me cry for several hours
― brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 30 April 2010 10:33 (fifteen years ago)
I believe he took a shit during the soundcheck
also lol'd. hadn't realised he was such a perfectionist
― gnarly sceptre, Friday, 30 April 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)
Cosign 'aerosmith's' post above.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 30 April 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)
It's the underlying subtext to "Man in a Shed" by Nick Drake.
― Mark G, Friday, 30 April 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)
CKY has covered "Bite it You Scum"
misread that as CSNY for a second there
― Brio, Friday, 30 April 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)
say what you want about GG musically, but "gimme some head" is one damn catchy tune
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 30 April 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
all the early stuff I've heard with the Jabbers is great. some of my favourite punk tunes.
― gnarly sceptre, Friday, 30 April 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
also, even the pre-Jabbers material. are Love Tunnel, Lover's Triangle and 1980's Rock n Roll pre-Jabbers? those tracks are almost unrecognisable from later stuff.
― gnarly sceptre, Friday, 30 April 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
The Scumfucs era is pretty good too IMO, after that it all goes to shit lol see what I did there
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 30 April 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone know where we can find dave q's awesome post about that SF show, referenced way up top? I remember being very entertained by that, I think it was on another thread.
― Mark, Saturday, 1 May 2010 01:59 (fifteen years ago)
As a followup local postscript...he is buried over in Littleton N.H. right on Vermont border...I think that is the name of the town tho I could be wrong...one of the little local papers runs a story every six months or so about "fans" of his doing odd things at his grave...leaving odd shit around, bothering the other graves ect ect...
personally, I never minded the guy...I just thought he was most likely a schizophrenic...common enough problem really...
― cash, Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
all goes to shit lol see what I did there
Yes I did see, Colonel Poo...
― Check this, in fact. How exciting. He literally cuts the mustard. (snoball), Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
"leaving odd shit around"
― Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
as opposed to even.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 07:19 (fifteen years ago)
If GG had been a computer programmer, it would have been bytes of shit.
― he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves (snoball), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously one of the best punk songs ever, if you ask me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqOnYaVdosA
― winnebago taco, Monday, 10 May 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)
I attended, purely to see what was there. It was memorable! Certainly it wasn't for everyone.
― toni mitchell (u s steel), Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)
Inspired by this thread, just watched "Hated." His pee-pee was tiny.
― thirdalternative, Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:33 (fifteen years ago)
I mean, I've seen newborns with bigger pee-pees. I think this may have been the source of G.G.'s rage.
― thirdalternative, Thursday, 6 January 2011 16:04 (fifteen years ago)
i've heard it was because of cocaine use.
― /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\||||||( *__* )||||||/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (res), Thursday, 6 January 2011 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
Tell that to John Holmes. All the piss, shit and blood in Hated and everyone just remembers GG's mini-dick. What a legacy.
― Satantango! (Matt #2), Thursday, 6 January 2011 21:36 (fifteen years ago)
also there seem to be stories about him cutting off the tip, though I'm sure you'd be able to tell from pics whether that is true.
another thing: if he was so pissed about that, why would he make sure everyone knew about it?
― /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\||||||( *__* )||||||/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (res), Thursday, 6 January 2011 21:36 (fifteen years ago)
I'm joking, kids.
I thought it was a good doc but the director's comment at the end, something along the lines, "I'd hoped GG Allin would have died in a more spectacular fashion, on stage suicide taking five fans with him, instead he died like a typical rock star" was enraging. What a FUCKING STUPID thing to say. Yeah, it would have been so much better if he'd taken five people with him. What a load.
― thirdalternative, Friday, 7 January 2011 12:47 (fifteen years ago)
tbf he did specify "GG Allin fans"
― Scilk Mahouthy (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 January 2011 13:04 (fifteen years ago)
and less people just is less people
― carles marx (contenderizer), Friday, 7 January 2011 13:28 (fifteen years ago)
The 50-minute bonus footage was incredible, especially the very clean cut guy in a sort of raincoat who kept following GG around and sticking his fingers up GG's shitty asshole.
― thirdalternative, Friday, 7 January 2011 13:33 (fifteen years ago)