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apparently six figures each member.

― Sheila Takeabow, Thursday, 20 January 2005 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

mmmm.

is it 1 April already ?

or is there proof of such historic events ..

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No, you'll have to try harder than that...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

this is with holly johnson on vocals, right?

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, i'll bite.

GIVEMEDETAILSNOWORISHALLSMITETHEEWITHWEAPONSFORGEDFROMSTEEL

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

seems reasonable.,

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"apparently six figures each member."

Unfortunately it's somehow accidentally slipped Morrissey's mind to mention to Andy and Mike that the figures they've been offered are in Japanese Yen, while the figures he and Johnny Marr have been offered are in GB£ Sterling....

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

1 million pounds each. apparently, this was a proposal from either Joyce & Rourke or Gannon & Rourke! Although I would guess the former. I still can't believe it myself, especially given the bitter lawsuit and all. Then again, I think all but Morrissey may be hungry, possibly on the edge of starving now, not so much Marr, as Joyce, Rourke, and Gannon.

― Sheila Takeabow, Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"1 million pounds each. apparently,"

[a sad, tedious, pedantic accountant writes]:

That's seven figures.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you seen the rythm section recently? They are in no way starving

― Hey Dudes, you should check out some o dat Phil Collins dat be da fly shit dat n, Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

If Morrissey's hungry after the year he's had, it can only be cuz he's EATEN TOO MUCH!

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't be that surprised if it ever happened cuz Morrissey's whole shtick is about scratching away at old wounds in that sour old way he always had. He was always about the past. Grist for t'mill innit?

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

yep, morrissey really must be on his beam ends living in clark gable's old house in hollywood.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

At this moment Martin Rossiter is sat by his phone waiting for it to ring. Waiting, waiting, waiting...

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I the only one fed up with reunions?

― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i wouldn't mind the original scritti politti reuniting!

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that CD out yet? I saw it in the 'pile' that is the first page of the Mojo reviews, but no review inside...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I would rather not go
Back to the old house
I would rather not go
Back to the old house
There’s too many
Bad memories
Too many memories
There...
There...
There...

When you cycled by
Here began all my dreams
The saddest thing I’ve ever seen
And you never knew
How much I really liked you
Because I never even told you
Oh, and I meant to

Are you still there ?
Or... have you moved away ?
Or have you moved away ?
Oh...

I would love to go
Back to the old house
But I never will
I never will...
I never will...
I never will...

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Or,

"Oh I won't go and be in that band again
but I'll have a cup of tea with you johnny
And it's OK if Andy and even Craig are there
But Mike's still overdue a slap with a wet slipper..."

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

the scrit early album comes out on valentine's day, but rough trade already have copies in stock.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Re-issue ! Re-package ! Re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra Track (and a tacky badge)

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

they should ALL come and play at the winchester club!

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

At this moment Martin Rossiter is sat by his phone waiting for it to ring. Waiting, waiting, waiting...

Hahah. Hey, it worked for Ian Astbury.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

When was the last time Green Gartside performed on stage?

― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the scrit early album comes out on valentine's day, but rough trade already have copies in stock.
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...) (webmail), January 20th, 2005 12:44 PM. (link)

And so do I, now. A fiver. Whee.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember him doing "Oh Patti" liveish on the Tube's 'when it's not on' fill-in programme. Forget the name. The Roxy, or some such...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Muriel Gray. You know...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that CD out yet? I saw it in the 'pile' that is the first page of the Mojo reviews, but no review inside...

that sucks, i wrote that... should be in the next issue!

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I never thought they would have reunited...but then again, I didn't think The Pixies would either!

― Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Andy put his bass up for sale on eBay? And not just any bass, but the one he used to record all those songs?

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 21 January 2005 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, just after he left Badly Drawn Boy's band.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 January 2005 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone else heard the rumor that the smiths will be playing coachella?

http://www.productshopnyc.com

just the idea of a smiths reunion blows my mind.

― rm265, Friday, 21 January 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be pretty perverse. A festival show in likely 110F heat.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 21 January 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

...I would still go though. Which is a sign of poor mental health, probably.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 21 January 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Extra Extra!! Smiths reunite after joke thread on message board gives them idea!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 21 January 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

well it worked out for the pixies

― the first church of latebloomer, friend of plebians and santa (reformed) (latebl, Friday, 21 January 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.hallmundur.com/goodle/goodle.htm#

Radiohead to record "happy songs"
Guardian - 11 hours ago
Critically -acclaimed rock miserablists Radiohead are to release an album of covers of happy songs from the Eighties. Songs will include “Happy Talk”, “The Birdie Song”, and a duet with Cliff Richard on a startling re-interpretation of his 1988 Christmas smash “Mistletoe & Wine”
The Smiths to reform Reuters

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 21 January 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...

Kung apparently has recent word on this. Kung?

― (plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

You rang? Oh, sorry.

― klung (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

That wacky Kung.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Kung?

Jonathan King?

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

I suspect he has other things on his mind these days.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

there is no way this is true, right?

― JD from CDepot, Monday, 14 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

(mainly because i dont want it to be)

― JD from CDepot, Monday, 14 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

If Kung says it we must keep it in mind. (In otherwards, no.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

kung and kodos?

― stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahah. Hahah. Hahahahahahahah. Hahahahahahahahah. Hahah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Not the krung- the krung!

― klung (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

From Holy Moly:

"Just had dinner at Daniel (NY) with some work friends, when I noticed an older and wiser Johnny Marr of The Smiths coming in as we were going out. I stopped to gawk because, well, that's what you do.

As he went to his table, he shook his dining partner's hand - it was a greying Morrissey. Smiths reunion, anyone?"

Morrissey fan sites are rubbishing these claims, but my money is on 'something' happening for Manchester vs Cancer, a charity concert at the MEN arena in Jan 2006. Maybe.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

There's no doubt that they will reunite within the next 2 years or so, most likely for a one-off series of gigs. Without M. Joyce obv, not that it matters.

― Dr.C, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

They should call themselves "Morrissey & Marr: The Severed Alliance" and only play clubs

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

Clubs with strings on, like the Boulder Brothers?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

"Without M. Joyce obv, not that it matters."

I'm sure that would be a lot of people's opinion - but I'm not at all sure I agree.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

OTM

― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Joyce totally matters, that rhythm section was half of what made the band great!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I agree, it would matter to me (the sans-Mike Joyce), but then again, i really don't even want a morrissey/marr reunion. i think it would just SUCK, im happy with the records i have.

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

i mean, don't visions of a grizzled page and plant come to mind? who in gods name wants to see an old fart version of "this charming man"?

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

[Post photo of Stewart here]

― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

IIRC there were all sorts of rumours flying about that Johnny was supposedly going to join Morrissey on stage at some festival in South California a few years back (Morrissey was performing, Johnny was apparently recording in some nearby studio) but nothing came of that.

I still tend to think that Johnny joining Morrissey on stage for a couple of numbers is far more likely to happen than any sort of actual reunion.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

"i mean, don't visions of a grizzled page and plant come to mind? who in gods name wants to see an old fart version of "this charming man"?"

-- JD from CDepot (kicksjoydarknes...), November 15th, 2005 7:47 PM. (later)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"[Post photo of Stewart here]"

-- k/l (lauter...), November 15th, 2005 8:00 PM. (later)

I'm not too sure to be honest. I'm certainly not amongst those who are against all reunions on some sort of principle (in my experience for every Page and Plant there's a Damned or a Bauhaus or a Buzzcocks or a Buzzkunst or a Penetration or a Pixies....); however there was something so essentially.... adolescent.... about so much of The Smiths material, that it's hard to imagine how a bunch of 40-somethings would be able to either recapture that or compensate for its absence.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

IIRC there were all sorts of rumours flying about that Johnny was supposedly going to join Morrissey on stage at some festival in South California a few years back

That was the first Coachella festival. No reunion happened, obv.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

They should call themselves "Morrissey & Marr: The Severed Alliance" and only play clubs

most otm post ever

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

"however there was something so essentially.... adolescent.... about so much of The Smiths material, that it's hard to imagine how a bunch of 40-somethings would be able to either recapture that or compensate for its absence."

OTM. I mean, id go see morrissey anytime, but i find it hard to believe that the essence of the smiths would be anything but betrayed by a reunion.

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I happen to think that the Page/Plant version of "Gallows Pole" is far superior to the original. Much of Unledded is a little underrated, IMO.

― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Thomas Inskeep OTM...Unledded was really cool, I thought.

A few of the reunions I've seen recent years, Mission of Burma, Pixies, Bauhaus, Gang of Four, Buzzcocks, were all pretty great, actually.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...

Marr and Rourke together at least, with quite a line-up backing them up.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001659262

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

There's a website about the gig/charity here...

http://www.manchestervcancer.co.uk/

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Tickets - £40 - on sale on Saturday.

http://www.manchestervcancer.co.uk/tickets.asp

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

Morrissey & Marr: The Softcock Alliance

― The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

i thought this was a joke thread. that must be why there is so little response to the lates news.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 17 December 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

do they have reissues with bonus tracks that i'll play once and never listen to again ?

― retrokid, Saturday, 17 December 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Fuck! Marr & Rourke! Well that's as good as a full reunion, innit?

― The Wanderers' Wandering Daughter (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Damnit why don't I live in England again?

― Halloween Spooky Party Hints! (Bimble...), Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

Today is the day the Smiths reunite threads reunite.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 11:46 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Marr. Rourke. 'There Is A Light' and 'How Soon Is Now' - it wasn't much, but it was enough to make me blub like a fule.

― Zora (Zora), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm still wanting to shout Marr's praises from the feckin' rooftops. I hope this feeling never fades.

I would pimp my full review on my blog, but then people would want to poke me in the eye. And they would also mock me for my inaccuracies. No. I will go to bed and cocoon myself in memory.

― Zora (Zora), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

WONH WUH

― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:51 (thirteen years ago)

I was wondering why this wasn't the Smiths thread that got revived yesterday.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:58 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/22/the-smiths-partially-reunite-for-classical-concerts

― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:17 (eight years ago)

lol everyone except the two that made the smiths the smiths

saved you a click

― infinity (∞), Monday, 22 January 2018 17:28 (eight years ago)

thx infinity

― flappy bird, Monday, 22 January 2018 18:15 (eight years ago)

― infinity (∞), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:39 (eight years ago)

finally, the chance to see the legendary craig gannon in action

― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:50 (eight years ago)

I am sure those shows will be sold-out soon. But this has nothing to do with a reunion. That is more like a string orchestra covering rock songs.

― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:54 (eight years ago)

Keep hoping the Panozzo brothers will come to town to perform the songs of Styx with a string quartet

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:57 (eight years ago)

...then again

https://pitchfork.com/news/andy-rourke-denies-involvement-in-classically-smiths-concerts/

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 January 2018 19:24 (eight years ago)

This is insane:

Bad Production Ltd.’s press release also included a quote attributed to Andy Rourke (“To have been there the first time round and seen it first hand, and to still be such a big fan of The Smiths today, I am both thrilled and excited to be involved in Classically Smiths. I’m really proud of the band’s work, and being able to present those songs again in this particular production format promises to be a real gift for audiences everywhere.”). Rourke’s rep tells Pitchfork: “Any quotes by Andy Rourke regarding this project are 100% fabricated and without approval.”

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 January 2018 19:26 (eight years ago)

i hear Morrissey's doing some Wagner

― the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:27 (eight years ago)

The Ringleader of the Tormentors Cycle.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:16 (eight years ago)

november spawned a meistersinger

― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 22 January 2018 20:21 (eight years ago)

Valkyrie & I

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:23 (eight years ago)

Rourke himself has also issued the following statement:

"I am deeply saddened that during the week of the death of my dear friend Dolores O'Riordan, that false statements are made on my behalf. At no time did I give my consent for anyone in connection with this Classically Smiths project to act on my behalf or my name and nothing was ever confirmed, approved or contracted by me or my team."

― the pinefox, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:24 (eight years ago)

So is Mike Joyce even involved?

― godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 January 2018 20:46 (eight years ago)

William Tell, It Was Really Nothing

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:11 (eight years ago)

Well this all became a total clusterfuck

https://www.facebook.com/mikejoyceofficial/posts/1563982187016807

https://www.facebook.com/craig.gannon.18/posts/10156147205244697

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:00 (eight years ago)

Shocked, I tell you!

― StanM, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:06 (eight years ago)

I guess you could say that's the end of that. Or, as a classical music fan might say, "Girlfriend in a Coda."

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:09 (eight years ago)

And now, the lead violinist in the orchestra makes a statement

― Mark G, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:10 (eight years ago)

(I had like five other Smiths-related puns lined up and now have no use for them. Sigh.)

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:11 (eight years ago)

i feel bad for the members of the orchestra

i: they are caught up in a vitriolic shitstorm not of their making, with derision hard on its heels
ii: they have been having to rehearse arrangements of smiths songs lol

― mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:17 (eight years ago)

They were looking for a job, then they found a job, then they lost a job.

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:19 (eight years ago)

has anything mike joyce ever participated in post smiths ever come out right

― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:41 (eight years ago)

he won that court case

― the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:08 (eight years ago)

xp "Millionaire" Mike Joyce you mean?

― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:11 (eight years ago)

This is too bad. I think it would have been great to see those three together again.

― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:26 (eight years ago)

actual office lol

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:35 (eight years ago)

err... although i apologize if you were being sincere?

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:36 (eight years ago)

uh i meant musically

― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:39 (eight years ago)

has anything mike joyce ever participated in post smiths ever come out right

Nah but at least he wasn’t in Freebass.

― gyac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:43 (eight years ago)

http://www.topfiverecords.se/images/morDSCF4477.jpg

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:44 (eight years ago)

oh one song he was told how to play probs

― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:48 (eight years ago)

This Charming Rachmaninoff

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:49 (eight years ago)

Yeah I didn’t realise he and Rourke were on Bona Drag. He hadn’t played on a record since according to his discography??? Even though I slagged off Rourke just now, he’s worked a lot more than that.

― gyac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:51 (eight years ago)

Louder Than Brahms

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:56 (eight years ago)

Ring Cycle Around The Fountain

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:59 (eight years ago)

Oh wait... it was "Reel" wasn't it? damn.

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:08 (eight years ago)

Last Night I Dreamt Václav Karel Holan Rovenský

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:09 (eight years ago)

There is a Leitmotif that Never Goes Out

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:11 (eight years ago)

Heaven Knows I'm Miserere Now

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)

okay i checked

for the completist

joyce played drums on interesting drug, such a little thing, international playboys, and lucky lisp

ftr i only like interesting drug but i do recognize that playboys is a good track

not sure about the other two

i never read about what was going on during the recording of bona drag but i wonder what the history of getting him to play on those songs was

― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:14 (eight years ago)

Hand in Gluck

― mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:15 (eight years ago)

Some Girls are Bigger than Hummel

― mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:17 (eight years ago)

there is a liszt that never goes out

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)

meat is mahler

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)

"Panufnik on the streets of Birmingham..."

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)

this nocturne has opened my eyes

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:19 (eight years ago)

what she satie

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:19 (eight years ago)

Cemetrio Gates

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:21 (eight years ago)

The Handel That Rocks the Cradle

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:22 (eight years ago)

Never Had Nono Ever

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:23 (eight years ago)

Death of a Dieskau Dancer

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:26 (eight years ago)

Frankly Mr. Stravinski

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:27 (eight years ago)

last night i dreamt that somebody loved meat

― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:30 (eight years ago)

k waiting for a Chopin pun to come to me so i can remove bookmark from this thread

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:35 (eight years ago)

Chopinlifters of the World Unite?

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:45 (eight years ago)

has anything mike joyce ever participated in post smiths ever come out right

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FixHZQh-MHw/UfmJIA-jtsI/AAAAAAAAZ0o/e5mcgm85oDA/s1600/The+Mighty+Wah+-+Songs+Of+Strength+&+Heartbreak+-+Front.jpg

never read about what was going on during the recording of bona drag but i wonder what the history of getting him to play on those songs was

Bona Drag is a compilation, those singles were recorded and released consecutively - Rourke and Gannon are also on them

― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:54 (eight years ago)

Chopinlifters of the World Unite?

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:45 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thank you

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:04 (eight years ago)

I think there was a time when Rourke and Joyce hoped the band would get back together which might explain his involvement in the earlier singles, who knows Moz might have had those kicking around in some form towards the end of the band?

Rourke is such a great bassist

― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:07 (eight years ago)

This revive is making me think of a future remake of Annie Hall wherein Alvy Singer complains about the record store guy telling him, "We've got a sale on Mo-rrissey this week..."

― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:10 (eight years ago)

Ravel Ruffians

― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:17 (eight years ago)

"i never read about what was going on during the recording of bona drag but i wonder what the history of getting him to play on those songs was"

bona drag wasn't recorded as an album, it's a singles compilation, and he was used to record those singles.

― akm, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:31 (eight years ago)

Haydn Glove

― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:45 (eight years ago)

Miserable Tye

― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:47 (eight years ago)

I Know It's Coda

― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:07 (eight years ago)

There is a light that has just gone out.

― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:07 (eight years ago)

bona drag wasn't recorded as an album, it's a singles compilation, and he was used to record those singles.

― akm, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:31 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know

still doesn't say anything about why

― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:41 (eight years ago)

Closure.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:44 (eight years ago)

Cloture.

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:46 (eight years ago)

There Is A Ligeti That Never Goes Out

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:20 (eight years ago)

Statement from Mike Joyce with reference to Classically Smiths . It is with much regret that I have to announce that I will not be taking part in the show (s) Classically Smiths. I entered into agreement in good faith to perform these shows with Andy Rourke and Craig Gannon. Unfortunately it became apparent very late that Andy would not be taking part. I agreed with Andy that I would take part in the press conference and inform people that he would not be taking part. Unfortunately on the morning of the press conference I was informed I would not be able to say this. I therefore agreed to take part in the press interviews but did so without discussing Andy’s participation in the venture at any point during all tv, radio and print interviews. After much deliberation and soul searching I have decided that without Andy, an integral part of why I agreed to take part in the first place, I have come to this difficult decision. I still believe the shows and concept to be a fantastic idea and wish them all the success they deserve.

so they made up fake quotes to pretend Andy was playing. then Joyce finds out Andy didn't actually agree to it and the two of them decide to tell the press. then before he can set the record straight he finds out he can't is not allowed to discuss it. do i have this right? what the fuck

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:32 (eight years ago)

Rubber Ring Cycle

― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:34 (eight years ago)

two years pass...

If it hadn't already been done to death, I'd have launched a Smiths website. But too many already. So I decided instead to launch a website around the music of two other great songwriters - Cathal Coughlan and Sean O'Hagan, who I was thrilled to see lead Microdisney into a reunion period in 2018 and 2019. On https://coughlanohagan.com/, I think I'm building up something worthwhile. Hope you enjoy it.

― weirwrite, Saturday, 23 May 2020 06:52 (five years ago)

"six figures per band member" - how adorable 2005 was.

What would Coachella pay for a Smiths reunion in 2021, $10 million?

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 23 May 2020 07:01 (five years ago)

What has Microdisney got to do with The Smiths?

― Mark G, Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:25 (five years ago)

one year passes...

At least we have Rick Astley and Blossoms to fall back on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XluAp8yEhZ8

― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 08:25 (four years ago)

Oops

Well, I met The Blossoms a few weeks ago and they elected to not mention it. Nice.
— Johnny Marr (@Johnny_Marr) September 17, 2021

― groovypanda, Friday, 17 September 2021 14:40 (four years ago)

lmao at salty Johnny Marr

― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 17 September 2021 17:38 (four years ago)

didn't they realise he was the perfect guitarist to be in The Smiths with a better singer? :-(

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:08 (four years ago)

three years pass...

Someone start an ILX Go Fund Me to buy The Smiths name and reform with Rick Astley on vocals.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/sep/03/morrissey-puts-his-business-interests-in-the-smiths-up-for-sale-to-any-interested-party

― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:33 (five months ago)

Are there examples of this happening before? From one half of a songwriting partnership I mean..

― piscesx, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:40 (five months ago)

I look askance at that listed email.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:42 (five months ago)

Morrissey shares 50% of the rights to the Smiths with Marr. Whether the brand retains its value to investors without Morrissey as an active participant to help market it remains to be seen.

i am not a rational consumer, but isn’t there a good chance the brand would increase in value once people know Morrissey’s not making money off of it?

― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:46 (five months ago)

honestly i love the smiths and i still put them on, occasionally, but far less than i would if i didn’t have to think “goddamn morrissey’s a fucking asshole” as i did it, or feel the need to mutter something about how i know ‘morrissey sucks, but’ if i want to play them in the company of someone else (who would be people who like the smiths but hate morrissey)

― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:47 (five months ago)

That Morrissey statement reads like something that has been machine translated.

― visiting, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:49 (five months ago)

Wasn't there a rift between Hall and Oates a while back about something similar? Daryl Hall was upset that John Oates wanted to sell his half of the band's publishing company (which I learn is called Whole Oats Enterprises, or WOE for short):
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/nov/30/the-ultimate-betrayal-more-details-emerge-in-hall-oates-lawsuit

Oates counter-argument was that Daryl Hall had gone out of his way to portray the band as two individuals rather than a team, which gave him the right to sell his stake independently.

Of course it could be that Morrissey is having a fit, or his internet has been hacked.

― Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:53 (five months ago)

Why does he write like English is his second language?

― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:54 (five months ago)

(xxp) Snap!

― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:55 (five months ago)

Hall and Oates rift; officially healed btw

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/aug/12/hall-oates-lawsuit-settlement

― piscesx, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:00 (five months ago)

The Guardian has contacted representatives for Marr and Joyce for comment.

Johnny Marr must love getting phonecalls on the regular about Morrissey's bullshit.

― visiting, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:12 (five months ago)

(xxp) Snap!

Pretty sure they’re still broken up

― Dumpy's Rusty Nuts Gimmick Poster (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:15 (five months ago)

The Guardian has contacted representatives for Marr and Joyce for comment.

What does Andy Rourke not count or something?

― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:18 (five months ago)

At first I was like "say it isn't so," but

Hall and Oates rift; officially healed btw

This makes my dreams come true

― je ne sequoia (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:45 (five months ago)

M-E-T-H-O-D-O-F-L-A-W

― peace, man, Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:00 (five months ago)

xxp Rourke died last year

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:03 (five months ago)

I know but does Morrissey?

― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:14 (five months ago)

haha fair point!

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:23 (five months ago)

Pretty sure he doesn't care.

― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:35 (five months ago)

Haha that Guardian article linked to another piece describing how Morrissey apparently wrote an anti-woke screed so bad that even Nick Cave wouldn't sing on it. My life flashed before my eyes trying to even imagine it

Let's crowdfund a cagematch between Morrissey, Nick Cave and Jonny Greenwood over who can espouse the most old man shouts at clouds anti-woke diatribe on the interwebs

― Etherwave, Thursday, 4 September 2025 10:32 (five months ago)

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