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I'm new hear, as of a month. Never posted, but I finally have to ask, is this site a secret. A friend of mine showed it to me, said it was all critics and bloggers (which seems mostly to be the case) and also told me a friend of his got scolded for linking it on their blog. is everyone here just trying to keep this site to themselves? seems like those that don't post here regularly either are accused of being fake, or are ignored. just curious about everyone's thoughts about this....

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

come on now. answer!

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

***INTRUDER ALERT!!!***

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ACHTUNG!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

lockdown initiated.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It's to do with David Koresh. And the Pyramids. You know about the Holy Grail, right?

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, I've said too much.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

sarcasm 101

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

please identify this "friend of mine"? we must take him away for interrogation and possibly reprogramming

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

it's indexed by Google ! what were you expecting direct links from RollingStone, BillBoard and NME.com marked Informed Music Discussion click here !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

breezy - if they let me post here, they'll let anyone.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

At least you didn't mention Qaballah.....er.

― bprofane (AaronHz), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

no just saying. seems VERY insular, and since all of you blog, why aren't you all LINKING this site to your blogs? hmmmm

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, I think most people do ...

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

don't deny it, you don't want any riff raff in here who don't know who M.I.A is!

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i blog therefore i am

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

why aren't you all LINKING this site to your blogs?

I do, but no one reads my blog anyway, so it's not deemed a major security risk.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never blogged in my life! I don't even have my own computer.

― Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

breezy, have you ahd the dream about the pearl?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

rockists, keep out.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM started in August 2000, some of us have been here since the start - many others have joined since.

ILM is not password protected, or requiring a login unlike some other music forums.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I only blog about music because of ILM. I just wandered in here two years ago as a lonely hobo myself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

My blog is about June Sarpong.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm neither critic nor blogger. i wandered in here to take a look a couple years ago -- it was gonna be either ILM or the kabbalah centre -- and now they won't let me out. GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE!!!

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM should be kept a secret from you until you grow old enough to know better

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i am a touch nervous now that I've posted I'll be hooked for life. only time will tell.

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I found ilx a few years from links on blogs I liked to frequent. Oh well.

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i would die for this board.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Guards, take this man to... THE COMFY CHAIR!

― King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

How do you know breezy is a man? Informer!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a blogger or critic, either. And I tell everyone I know about this site (although, I sometimes wish it had a url like ilovemusic.com).

I found it on Google a few years back just by doing a "music blog" search.

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM should be kept a secret from you until you grow old enough to know better

Yeah, this is true for me in more ways than one (and many other ppl here too I'm sure)

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

DEFCON FOUR

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i am a touch nervous now that I've posted I'll be hooked for life. only time will tell.
-- breezy (breezypoint7...), January 28th, 2005.

ILM is a sinkhole underneath your spare time.

― righteousmaelstrom, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/users/boogles/illuminati.reduced.gif
ILM=EyeLM

!!!!

― Lingbertt, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure what the % re: critics,writers,other commentators vs. normals ;) is, but there's definitely a lot of the former here.

Is it indexed by Google? It never seems to turn up in my searches for music related stuff anything like as often as I'd expect it to, I assumed it had a fairly agressive robot.txt

I dunno, I found it looking for the very few places which had any info about Bpitch Control records/Ellen Allien, I haven't kept a regular login (yet) but I certainly haven't been ignored when replying/starting threads.

I don't think it's a secret to the 'blogosphere'.

Yech. I said blogosphere. Now i need to go outside & get some fresh air to compensate for a while.

p.s. C/D OTM xpost!!!

― lurking but not, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

so 30+ posts in, is no one going to do a Ned and say "Welcome, breezy"?

that scolding-for-linking story sounds like one of those "internet rumour" things people keep telling me about

― gresham street raider (zebedee), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

so 30+ posts in, is no one going to do a Ned and say "Welcome, breezy"?

Apparently not. Say, why didn't you do it? Or hey, why didn't I do it just now? the mysteries of life.

― King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Heavens ;)

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear ILM sued the Guardian for even mentioning this board in an article.

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

so 30+ posts in, is no one going to do a Ned and say "Welcome, breezy"?

Er, I suppose I could. Hi there!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Welcome Breezy! Stick around, you'll find many fine sorts here :-)
(XPOST, damn you!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks ned and jaymc. appreciate it. i may never get any work done now thanks to this. and I haven't even explored the "search" engine...but I know to use it before ever starting a thread on something that may have already been posted about!

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

You are a wise person.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

well i've seen you get tough on those that don't use it. cough cough, interpol posters be warned

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It's just cuz Ned hates Interpol, though, right??

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Everybody on the planet reads ILX. Seriously. Even illiterate people; they like the "Album Cover Connections" threads. At least once a month I learn that someone I know in the world-at-large just happens to spend all day browsing threads. Plus every time I look at someone else's computer, I find ILX bookmarked.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

...although, we haven't had a post on rockism in a while...

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

And yeah, one thing you should know if you're going to post here is that Ned is a total dick. Everyone knows it. We all talk about how rude he is to everyone and how unreasonable he can be.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i think they are fun enough. but his link did show there were dozens of interpol related threads already, and I guess if you are as much of a regular as he is (or seems to be) it must get oh so tiring to see the same thread over and over again. then again, maybe everyone needs to breathe some fresh air like "lurking" said

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It's just cuz Ned hates Interpol, though, right??

It could have been about a band I like with a lot of threads and I would have said the same thing. BLEH! ;-)

And yeah, one thing you should know if you're going to post here is that Ned is a total dick. Everyone knows it. We all talk about how rude he is to everyone and how unreasonable he can be.

My reputation precedes me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

wow ned. bad rep! has anyone started a thread about how ned is a "dick"?

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

No, but nearly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the % re: critics,writers,other commentators vs. normals

This is an interesting dichotomy.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

By dint of posting here, we're all commentators.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

;)

― lurking but not, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd say about 80% of what you read is from "writers, critics, bloggers" etc, and the rest are "normals" like me. sigh, I'm only NORMAL!!! but I bet it's more fifty fifty about who actually comes to the site and reads it. i didn't bother posting for a month!

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a DMB fan, and I've lasted a couple of weeks without any death threats...

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

You'll do fine. ONE OF US, soon enough.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I also hate Interpol, but alas, I am not a professional music journalist, so my opinion carries little weight.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

sad isn't it. us "normals" , what do we know?

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

so should we tell breezy about the secret, shadow ILM board where all the regulars post their really good stuff? no? ok, i didn't think so. sorry to have brought it up.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you're overstating the case, Breezy!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm just joking jaymc.

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

so has ILM turned you on to any new music in your time here, miss chievous grin?

― Lingbertt, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I was downloading Onieda and the Lyrics Born remix album and drinking shots of tequila with strawberry quik chasers and then everything got all sparkly and swirly and I woke up and I was here.

And I DON'T KNOW A WAY OUT!!!

― Austin (Austin), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

so should we tell breezy about the secret, shadow ILM board where all the regulars post their really good stuff? no? ok, i didn't think so. sorry to have brought it up.

-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...) (webmail), January 28th, 2005 4:18 PM. (fcc) (link)

DINOSAURS

― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Are the Noise Dudes a secret?

― briania (briania), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

secrets secrets secrets.

― owen reading, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

What We Do Is Secret!

― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

noise dudes are ILXs black sheep!

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"so has ILM turned you on to any new music in your time here, miss chievous grin?"

slowly but surely - I've found I'm not very cool when it comes to my favorite music, but I've been trying to download other people's music "obsessions" and check them out, such as Belle & Sebastian (I should know them already, I like them) and Killing Joke (not so much, sorry Alex), but my latest obsession is with the Norweigian music scene (Thomas Dybdahl, Natoional Bank). And ILX did reintroduce me to the music of my middle school glory days, Bell Biv Devoe... uh, thanks! ;)

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think ILM is doing a good job in your case.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure I originally stumbled across this via google, FWIW.

― sleep (sleep), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, yer mean, Cutty.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I was linked to this site by fellow DMB freaks who were getting a kick out of how much they are hated here. And yes, I think there was alcohol involved. :)

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah for drunkenness!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

DMB still sucks tho!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

you guys DMB is so original and has so much talent and if you can't see that then you obviously don't know shit about music

― Lingbertt, Friday, 28 January 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"DMB still sucks tho!"

I know jaymc, I know.

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I think more folks are aware of ILX than we probably are aware of. I had a sort've impromptu interview/chat with the senior music editor of a weekly magazine a while back. I'd sent him clips relatively out of the blue. He wrote back sometime afterwards and asked "Quick question....Are You Alex in NYC?" Turns out he was a regular ILX lurker (has posted only once, as far as I'm aware). I'd like to think it was my clips that prompted him to e-mail me back, but had it not been for that ILX connection, I might have been just another faceless applicant.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The fact that ilm is renowned for its DMB hating delights me to no end.
xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

believe it or not, it delights me too.

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, ARE YOU Alex in NYC?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you now or have you ever been... Alex in NYC?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"I've found I'm not very cool when it comes to my favorite music, but I've been trying to download other people's music "obsessions""

Keep up the exploration. Soon you'll be as cool as the rest of ILM.
";)"

― Lingbertt, Friday, 28 January 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"The only true currency in this bankrupt world, is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." - Almost Famous

I'll keep exploring though, no doubt about that!

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I know jaymc, I know.

;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't even think people take other people's recommendations here to heart, unless of course they are the head of a big blog or pfork writer, or maybe people just don't have much to say about my picks! hahaha

― owen reading, Friday, 28 January 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? I think lots of people take ilmers recommendations to heart. I know I do. At least certain ones!

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I do, too!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots of times it may not be a specific poster, though, but an aggregate. I'd never heard Basement Jaxx before (apart from "Red Alert" and "Where's Your Head At," the latter of which I didn't even know was B. Jaxx), but the Kish Kash thread, with dozens of people saying OMG THIS IS SO AWESOME!, pretty much led me to the record store.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.theweathermen.com/acatalog/threat%20sheep.jpg

― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

now i'm all. basement jaxx you say? hmmmm.....now I might have to check this out, ...dunno, guess I don't have a "rep" here yet. hah

― owen reading, Friday, 28 January 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

All I know about basement jaxx is from the Bend It Like Beckham soundtrack... what songs should I download?

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm...which song or songs are on that soundtrack?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i am a touch nervous now that I've posted I'll be hooked for life. only time will tell.
-- breezy (), January 28th, 2005.

If you're seriously worried about this, let me know. I think I can handle pissing you off enough to get you to leave. I mean, if you like.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I'm wrong, I must be going crazy. Maybe I heard about Basement Jaxx when I bought the Bend It soundtrack (I worked at Borders at the time)... I could have sworn they were used in the movie though. *shrug*

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I completely take certain ILM'rs recommendations seriously, and have been introduced lots of great stuff as a result.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Jaxx songs I really like myself: "Romeo," "Where's Your Head At," "Plug It In." There are many others.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

alex in NYC, who do you "trust" here...how does one win your trust? what's it take to get in with alex in nyc? huh?

― owen reading, Friday, 28 January 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"Do Your Thing" is on the Bend It Like Beckham soundtrack, I just checked.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"Jus 1 Kiss" would be at the top of my list.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Then "Good Luck"

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I think once you hang around here after a while, you get a sense of what other posters have similar tastes to your own, and start taking their recommendations pretty seriously.

"Good Luck" is my favourite B Jaxx song, "Cish Cash" needs the love as well. Oh and "Rendez-Vu".

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Why the scare quotes, owen? Something tells me that Alex's trust, when earned, is definitely of the no-scare-quotes variety.

I take a lot of folks' recommendations seriously, and I spew my own recommendations in hopes that someone else will take mine as seriously.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"Do Your Thing" is on the Bend It Like Beckham soundtrack, I just checked.

Weird, thanks! I was too lazy to go find my case, since i'm not so organized, and I looked it up on amazon - for whatever reason, b.jaxx didn't show up.

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I belive "Red Alert" is used in the movie as well.

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Red Alert" is AMAZING.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't mean the quotes like that. hear ya martin. somehow this got turned into a basement jaxx thread....yay?

― owen reading, Friday, 28 January 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Not merely yay, hurrah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I will never trust Alex in NYC because he doesn't like Motown, although he seems like a decent enough guy despite this.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Unfortunately Ned is not one of the people who gives recommendations I trust, so I've got to continue to post without mentioning that thing with two Xs at the end of it.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 28 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

(That was a joke, Ned. I love that you hate Interpol and like the Chameleons... JUST LIKE ME)

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 28 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

We have a special understanding, you and I.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

There are people who don't like the Chameleons?!

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 January 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

See, I like basement jaxx and I didn't even know it. Thanks, ILM!

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Friday, 28 January 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU ARE WELCOME

― ILM (m0stly clean), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OK then how do you go about the much feted Disco Inferno? It brings up a lot of 50 cent when I try

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

shoot i meant how do you go about downloading disco inferno? that didn't make a lot of sense I mean how would you go about them er what?

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew what you meant... I've tried it too with the same results.

― miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

look up their album titles. allmusic.com is quite handy for this.

― Lingbertt, Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

On slsk the DI album Technicolour brings up Status Quo... and reviews by Ned Ragget? A conspiracy is afoot?

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I know what I am doing.

(Search for song titles as well as album titles.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

oh it's come up "relativeq" seem to have it. (OMG Ned just spoke to me! (well not spoke ( kind of acknowledged I guess.)))

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

alex in NYC, who do you "trust" here...how does one win your trust? what's it take to get in with alex in nyc? huh?

It's not a matter of "trust" or even "taste". Say something interesting enough about a piece of music, and I'm likely to give it a listen. There are many eloquent folks here whose tastes are postivively polar to mine, but they've made strong cases for stuff that's piqued my curiosity, prompting me to listen to stuff I'd otherwise have entirely written off as sickly sonic waste-product fit for swines' ears.

I will never trust Alex in NYC.....

Smart lad.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 January 2005 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

These pages get more hits than you guys would ever believe. A lot of people read ILM that never post.

― Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's just hope none of them are our employers.

― darin (darin), Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

One question I have as a relative new comer; when this place was recomended to me by a friend he said that the uniting interests of the first posters was some sort of progressive intelligent pop ethos but that this now being diluted heavily. Was he right? Is this what people mean when they complain about nu ilm vs er old ilm? I guess it's more complicated and not as rigid as he made out?

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

hurts my head like a thousand dogs

― come on sock it to me, Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"rigid"

― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

oh dear...

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Summarise a Novel in 25 Words

Came across an article about this site in the papers today. Quite entertainig - some very funny summaries. The one of 'The Lovely Bones' is funny.
CHALLENGE: summarise your favourite novel.

JP

Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 03:57 pm:
Marion, I just clicked on the above link and it said UNABLE TO CONNECT TO SERVER: TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE.

Is this normal?!

marion

Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 06:01 pm:
it said that to me one time but then it worked later on
I hope thta's normal...

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this what people mean when they complain about nu ilm vs er old ilm?

Old ILM -- compulsory worship of Daft Punk's "Discovery"
Nu-ILM -- not understanding what the big fucking deal is with Daft Punk's "Discovery"

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 29 January 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I found ILM through a link on Dom Passantino's blog when I was 15 and have been lurking and posting intermittently ever since, so it can't be that secret.

Sometimes I think about how I would have turned out if I'd never found ILM. It seems like every week or so I'll discover some new musical obsession that I probably would have written off if I didn't have access to all the different opinions that the ILM archives provide.

(Two of this month's obsessions, the Disco Inferno EP's and Depeche Mode's Music for the Masses, can even be attributed to a single ILXor. I'm looking at you, Ned. ;))

On the other hand, I can probably blame ILX when my bloated dreams of making a happy side income through music journalism are deflated by reality.

― stephen morris, Saturday, 29 January 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Old ILM -- compulsory worship of Daft Punk's "Discovery"
Nu-ILM -- not understanding what the big fucking deal is with Daft Punk's "Discovery"

thought that's what he meant, what about nu nu ilm? can that exist yet? and will there be a new equation? explain ilm internal politics via protracted equations!!!!

Nu Old ILM -- compulsory worship of ???
Nu Nu-ILM -- not understanding what the big fucking deal is with ???

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 29 January 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

??="Human After All"

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 January 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I consider myself nu-ILM, though I have lurked from time to time over the past 2 or 3 years (I've only been posting regularly for about a year I'd say). What drew me in was that at last I'd found an online community united by compulsory Discovery worship!

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Saturday, 29 January 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(OMG Ned just spoke to me! (well not spoke ( kind of acknowledged I guess.)))

Hi there! Nice Peter Cook reference with yer name.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

(Two of this month's obsessions, the Disco Inferno EP's and Depeche Mode's Music for the Masses, can even be attributed to a single ILXor. I'm looking at you, Ned. ;))

Good, good...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Giving Depeche another listen & discovering how much I love them.. is prob attributable to ILM. Hooray.

It's funny seeing people drop in & worry abt the reception here, it's like.. I have been around this site so long, it never occurs to me to be concerned with a prevailing aesthetic & whether I agree with it. Even if I mostly lurk these days.. if I didn't have ILM, how else would I be able to say "ohyeah, I was really into that last year" every time one of my friends mentioned a new record? And if I didn't say things like that, how would I have so few friends as to spend tons of time lurking on ILM?

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 29 January 2005 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Nu Old ILM -- compulsory worship of ???

Indie Guilt. Hmm. ;)

― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 January 2005 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Old ILM -- compulsory worship of Daft Punk's "Discovery"
Nu-ILM -- not understanding what the big fucking deal is with Daft Punk's "Discovery"

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 29 January 2005 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Jon's Dinosaur link was fantastic. This is a great thread.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 29 January 2005 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never found anywhere (in cyber or otherwise) where there are so many music nuts. It's a lovely place this ; such a mine of music info and seemingly welcoming folk. and I have it bookmarked on the three pcs my life takes me.

However, when I have lost the site in the past(new pc, reformat, whatever) I have found it very difficult to find it again. It didn't google.I googled for 'Ned Raggett'and got there that way!

― hull hole (hull hole), Saturday, 29 January 2005 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahah! Man, talk about identification with a certain place! But there are much worse things to be known for. Anyway, to Louise: hi there!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry Ned, I'm actually Louise's bloke posting on her pc!!! I should really get round to changing my settings. I will say hi to her though although she's gone back to bed.
We have monster hangovers after witnessing the Sex Pistols Experience last night. Some of these 'tribute' bands are a hoot. Lydon *was* Lydon. It was hilarious. Typical though. Vicious not Matlock,although 'Sid's' sneers had me howling.
A room full of 30/40s pogoing...

― hull hole (hull hole), Saturday, 29 January 2005 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry Ned, I'm actually Louise's bloke posting on her pc!!! I should really get round to changing my settings.

It's the cross-dressing life, sir. Embrace the Louise within.

We have monster hangovers after witnessing the Sex Pistols Experience last night

Astonishing. I'll still say the Adam Ant tribute band I saw last year was a treat.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't even explored the "search" engine...

Oh, no need for that. Go here, scroll down to the chronologically sorted "Previous Questions" and read it all in order. ;)

― OleM (OleM), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM is no secret. It's a cruel joke. And the punchline is the Basement Jaxx.

― irrigation can save your people, Saturday, 29 January 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I hide ILX from anyone who doesn't demonstrate a straightup pre-cum-style lust for music, or anyone who probably shouldn't know about that time in my life I was hospitalised/selling crack/being slutty/doing drugs/critiquing gonzo porn/vegetarian.

― LeCoq (LeCoq), Saturday, 29 January 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Dito. I've said things on ILE I would not want to explain to any of my friends.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 30 January 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i just got here. what does rockism mean?

― Frank M Smith (megaman), Sunday, 30 January 2005 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It means "the practice of squatting down and picking up a rock without using one's hands."

― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 January 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

We practice this all the time. Then we have the annual rock picking-up contest and the winner gets to sit on Ned's lap.

http://www.crazypics.org/santa_claus.jpg

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 30 January 2005 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

How long to you have to hang around ILM before you qualify as old-ilm?

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 30 January 2005 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

when you get Daft Punk's "Discovery"??

re:ilm's no secret... especially since, to add to the pile, slate.com linked to it last week.
m.

― msp (msp), Sunday, 30 January 2005 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't be old-ILM unless you posted to the old-ILM board.

― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 30 January 2005 06:34 (twenty-one years ago)

So Greenspun's the cutoff, eh?

― J (Jay), Sunday, 30 January 2005 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Lurking at Greenspun is insufficient I guess? LOL

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 30 January 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

greenspan's definitely a prereq, but not IT solely either... i'm of the greenspan era and yet i am probably not a true school old-ILMer. i hadn't the proper papers so i snuck over the border in a thread about [controversial moderator edit].
m.

― msp (msp), Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

what the hell is pre-cum-style??

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

something ribald, no doubt

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

truth be told, I came onto ILM entirely by accident. One day I was on google, completely bored. And decided to just type in as many words as I can untill I got only one real result. Because a lot of things I typed in were stuff I was listening to I got this. And I found a link to the thread called "your own fucking top 10" and I read it, was quite impressed at peoples lists and added mine. It took me like a month to figure out what the fuck this site was too.

― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:27 (twenty years ago)

We're all still figuring it out. (And I was here from the first day.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:34 (twenty years ago)

Come on Ned, just admit our connection to the Trilateral Commission.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:43 (twenty years ago)

It's a secret because the URL is hard to remember when you're drunk enough to be on the internet.

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:45 (twenty years ago)

KORITFW.

(I just learned that after researching it when Geeta used it.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:56 (twenty years ago)

What we do is...something.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 04:35 (twenty years ago)

I just can't believe that somebody who's been here since the beginning would actually still care enough to continue reading, let alone posting! Truly impressive.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:13 (twenty years ago)

It's still a charge, I learn something new every day, I've made friendships, gained work...it all continues on. And I hope I've given something back in turn. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:18 (twenty years ago)

KORITFW

i've never seen that before. meme ahoy.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm on ILM because I heard that you become popular if you post on it. So far, I've made one new friend at my high school. She likes Destroyer.

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)

Your next step is to make a friend who does not like Destroyer, thus achieving cosmic balance.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm graduating college soon. Will ILM give me a job?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:52 (twenty years ago)

It's not a secret, though some people here praobaly wish it was a secret, cause of their bad attitude towards new posters.

― xonix, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:52 (twenty years ago)

After I find that friend, does Clipse's "Zen" start blaring from the heavens?

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm graduating college soon. Will ILM give me a job?

yes

― nervous (cochere), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)

since i've started posting here, my boyfriend has started calling me "you dumb woman" and other lovelies b/c he thinks i like the abuse. thk u ilm.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:00 (twenty years ago)

does your boyfriend write for stylus

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:03 (twenty years ago)

You know the new German nationality test that Chancellor Merkel is inaugurating? We're thinking of doing something along similar lines for ILM, probably based on those questions in the last two rounds of last week's Poptimism Quiz. KNOW YOUR THUNDERBUGS!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:47 (twenty years ago)

How long to you have to hang around ILM before you qualify as old-ilm?
-- Disco Nihilist (), January 29th, 2005 9:57 PM.
when you get Daft Punk's "Discovery"??

...

This is classic.

I didn't see this in the past but started on ILM around the time this thread was born. I happened to finally buy Discovery about two months ago because of the love it gets/got from this board. I usually never buy things these days without hearing them first but with this I never bothered to download it. It's amazing like I expected.

Thanks again ILM!

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:51 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

i found this site by chance too. i feel like you have to post at least a 1,000 posts before anyone takes what you say seriously

― boonah (boonah), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God, there goes boondoc again...

― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

Simon Reynolds mentions ILM in an article in this month's Frieze (UK art magazine):

"The desire to contemplate such knotty self-reflexive quandries [as taking things so seriously you make a fool of yourself, or a taste for meta] abides at online discussion forums such as I Love Music and Dissensus. But there was a time when it flourished in the mainstream music media..."

So if there are suddenly new people with handles like "artandlanguage" discussing the "elliptical nodes, effulgent yet liminal" of the last two Will Young 45s, you'll know who sent them.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

Does Will Young actually release 45s? (Does anyone?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

Who knows... but that bit is a quote from Ian Penman's The Pill Box:

"I have to say, I agree with a whole lot of what Marcello has to say here; I've been disappointed, or bored stiff, or impressed-but-untouched by 99% of Stuff I Should Like, lately. On the other hand, I found myself improbably moved by - of all things - the last two Will Young 45s;..."

The fact that Penman, a veteran of exactly the period of mainstream media Reynolds is describing, is talking about an ILM regular rather supports Reynolds' thesis.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

And the fact that I reviewed the current Will Young album in Time Out completes the circle with some nifty deftness.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

Although he is strictly referring to CoM me rather than ILM me.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of the search function ... does it hate anyone else's computer? because mine seems to take like five minutes to query the database. odd. i always try to check for previous threads, but half of the time it just shows me error messages.

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

i feel like you have to post at least a 1,000 posts before anyone takes what you say seriously

But those 1,000 posts can consist of marginally relevant one-liners, or even simply the phrase "OTM" (or more ILX-specific expressions like "HI DERE").

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 15 June 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

teh LOL

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 15 June 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

i feel like you have to post at least a 1,000 posts before anyone takes what you say seriously

its actually the other way around: the more you post, the less we believe you.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't believe that, Nathalie. Not coming from you, anyway.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

the will young album is really good!

what is a 45?

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

What exactly do you mean by that, Momus?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

what is a 45?

... Seriously? GOOD GOD I AM OLD

― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's a 40 with 5 bonus ounces.

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

If you are waiting until your umpteenth post to be taken seriously, think on this, the Avogadro's law of ILM: the length of your posts, the amount of enthusiasm with which you invest them and their correlation with your actual beliefs is inversely proportional to the time spent here. Except if you are nabisco, of course.

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

ability to speak English goes down too

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

fda erqg frizzle

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

nabisco or Ned, I meant to say.

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Use the Google search option, it's much faster and more reliable.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

what is a 45?

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), June 15th, 2006 2:29 PM. (The Lex) (later)

Sometimes, when the Lex asks stuff like this, I'm never sure if he's parodying himself or whether he genuinely does live the life of a High Court judge.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Lex is only twelve, Ailsa, you have to allow for youth.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

the length of your posts, the amount of enthusiasm with which you invest them and their correlation with your actual beliefs is inversely proportional to the time spent here.

so, so otm

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! Oh wait.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Does Will Young actually release 45s? (Does anyone?)

Sloan made one a few years back. I'll have to go peek into my singles collection to check for other though.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

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