Probably not the worst. But it's getting there.
― F.R. Leavis, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)
This couplet panders a bit too much to Michael-Moore-style xenophobia for my liking:
Sheiks walkin' around like kings, wearing fancy jewels and nose rings,Deciding America's future from Amsterdam and to Paris
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
He saw an animal leavin' a muddy trail,Real dirty face and a curly tail.He wasn't too small and he wasn't too big."Ah, think I'll call it a pig."
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― bobby dylan, Friday, 11 February 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
The whole verse for context:
The Commander-in-Chief answers him while chasing a flySaying, "Death to all those who would whimper and cry"And dropping a bar bell he points to the skySaving, "The sun's not yellow it's chicken"
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
that's an awesome line....it's pretty obvious though..."yellow" being slang for cowardice as is "chicken"....great line.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't believe the Commander-in-Chief would say that though. It's the one joke out of dozens on the record that doesn't work. Usually with Dylan, if you understand why Shakespeare might be in the alley etc, what follows from that makes a kind of sense. But I think there is only one situation where someone might say "The sun's not yellow, it's chicken", and that it is in a Dylany absurdist song setting.
The joke would work if people commonly said the sun was yellow, but they don't. The sun's not yellow; it's golden if anything.
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)
It works, that.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, that works too.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)
is alejandro up and about again? that's good news. i hadn't been keeping track.
― Pete W (peterw), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)
"She opened up a book of poems and handed it to me written by an Italian poet from the 13th century and every one of them words rang true and glowed like burning coal pouring off of every page like it was written in my soul from me to you."
It's clunky, it's trite, and I don't like that song anyway.
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)
The whole song's pretty embarrassing. There are tons of truly awful Dylan lyrics, and tons of really great ones, he's the original hit-and-miss lyricist.
― Joubert, Friday, 11 February 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyway, I will ask ten people. Not while walking down the street, though. This might compromise the data I admit.
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)
I think he's more like hit-hit-miss. Whereas Neil Young is something like hit-miss-miss.
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)
For some reason, this always grates.
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)
Total weak setup line: "I asked the captain what his name was and how come he didn't drive a truck."
It's in there for no reason except to set up the rhyme "He said his name was Columbus and I just said 'good luck'."
I always thought that if he recorded the song about 10 years later, he could've said "I asked the captain what his name was, as if I gave a fuck."
Oh well.
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)
i'll also stick up for "if dogs run free." i like New Morning a lot.
how about "don't think twice it's alright." grr you passive aggressive fucko
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)
This one is great!
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)
"this morning I looked out my window and found-a bluebird singing but there was no one around.
At night I lay alone in my bed-With an image of you going around in my head."
― Flash (cowboytrance), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Christopher Ricks thinks Dylan's rhyming of "Mozambique" with "cheek to cheek" is brilliant. Crazy old fool. Lester Bangs did a brilliant demolition of Desire, that song and Joey in particular.It's such patronising excoticism. Noble savage and all that colonialist guff. And such hackneyed rhymes and banal cliches:
I'd like to spend some time in MozambiqueAll the couples dancing cheek to cheekIt's very nice to stay a weeke or two...There's lots of pretty girls in MozambiqueAndl plenty time for good romance...Magic in a magical land
― stew, Friday, 11 February 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)
Now, from the xtian period, I know Bob's been called out before for this immortal opening couplet: "Senor, senor, do you know where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon?"
― briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Stripper: Check out these poems. They're from 13th century Italy.Dylan: Wow! These poems go straight to my soul!
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)
I've never heard "Don't Think Twice" as passive aggressive -- I think it's aggressive aggressive. Nothing much passive about "you just sorta wasted my precious time." It's in my pantheon of great Dylan fuck-yous, along side "Idiot Wind" and "Positively 4th Street" and "Most Likely You'll Go Your way..." ("you say my kisses aren't like his/ I'm not gonna tell you why that is")
But anyway, we're here to bury Dylan not praise, right, so..."Hurricane" is full of howlers, but this verse in particular is fingernails/chalkboard:
Rubin could take a man out with just one punchBut he never did like to talk about it all that much.It's my work, he'd say, and I do it for payAnd when it's over I'd just as soon go on my wayUp to some paradiseWhere the trout streams flow and the air is niceAnd ride a horse along a trail.But then they took him to the jailhouseWhere they try to turn a man into a mouse.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
I love "Empire Burlesque," btw.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Are you out of your mind? Have you never played with crayons? Where I come from, if you ask people what color the sun is, they'll say "yellow".
The worst lines are on "Under The Red Sky".
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)
My pick would be "lay lady lay lay across my big brass bed". A frisky Bob = ewww.
― darin (darin), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― ffirehorse, Friday, 11 February 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)
I'd go along with this, except for "Isis". Also, I still like that album a lot, anyway.
― David A. (Davant), Saturday, 12 February 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)
(funny thing is, my wife loves that song, and it's one of the handful of Dylan tunes I know on guitar, so she often asks me to play it for her -- it feels kinda weird to sing it to the woman you love)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― John Caddell, Saturday, 12 February 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)
in some ways, that's Dylan's BEST nonsense (or not) couplet, because it's exactly the point at which he's proving he could sing anything into the song(there's the ring of a chuckle in his voice when he sings it)but when I listen it does sound like it's a twisted (phallic?) metaphor
anyway, he was clearly having fun so more power to him
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 12 February 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 12 February 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― La Camilla Henemark, Saturday, 12 February 2005 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 12 February 2005 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)
p.s. who will love me in the night when i'm horny?i was in army of lovers .i like guys and girls.
― La Camilla Henemark, Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Again, crayons! Are there any adults out there who would call the sun yellow?
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 12 February 2005 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Results 1 - 10 of about 13,200,000 for yellow sun
― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 12 February 2005 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)
If I had my love here tonightI'd be so happy. I'd be so bright.And if I had my love by my sideI'd be so happy so satisfied.But I've wandered so far awaythat I can't see the light of the day.But I know the time will comewhen I see the light of the sun.
I got a friend who's hanging on the line.I want to help him 'cause I've got the time.When people say look out for yourself.Well what's the use if it's for yourself.If you've got nobody you can give tothen you might as well just be on that shelf.But I hope the time will comeWhen they'll see the light of the sun.
O come see that yellow sun come shining.It'll turn you on. It'll turn you around.O come see that yellow sun come shining.I'll turn you on. It'll turn you around.But everybody suffers a little pain.When there's no sun and only the rain.So if you've been hurt then,show your wound and smile.And it will be all right in a while.
Yellow sun keep on shining............
― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 12 February 2005 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Yellow Sun was the first thermonuclear weapon developed for operational service in the UK. Yellow Sun was a fission/fusion device intended for airdrop. The name referred to the bomb's casing, while the physics package was Green Grass. The neutron source for the physics package was called Blue Stone.
The initial Yellow Sun Stage 1 used the Green Bamboo tamper boosted fission warhead while Yellow Sun Stage 2 used a Green Granite fusion warhead with a yield of 400Kt.
Yellow Sun Mk1 was essentially a boosted fission weapon with a yield of about 500KT. Any weapon with a yield in excess of 500Kt was referred to as a Megaton weapon. Yellow Sun was also known as "Bomb, HE, 7000lb, HC"
Yellow Sun Mk2 had a yield of 1Mt. Yellow Sun was withdrawn when the RAF relinquished the strategic nuclear deterrent to the Royal Navy Polaris submarines.
― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 12 February 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)
Two Reasons why the Sun appears yellow:
1. The Sun's surface temperature (5,500 degrees C) produces a range of visible light (red to blue) in which yellow is the most plentiful, but not much more than other colors it produces. If the Sun were cooler, say 2,500 degrees C, it would look red, like the stars Antares and Betelgeuse. Or if the Sun were hotter, say 15,000 degrees C, it would look blue, like the star Rigel.
2 The Earth's atmosphere acts as a kind of light filter. Some colors are filtered more than others. The Sun is a yellow star, but the Earth's atmosphere makes the Sun look more yellow than it appears than if you were to observe it from space where it would appear more white than yellow...
― o. nate (onate), Saturday, 12 February 2005 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)
Can't fucking stand "Hurricane" and never could.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 12 February 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 17 March 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)
-- o. nate (syne_wav...), February 12th, 2005.
I just did this lab in astronomy class (my school, Georgia State, has one of the best astronomy depts in the country) and we had to locate stars in constellations and determine their apparent magnitude and color class. They were either red, blue, or yellow. Anyways even in every single graph and computer print-out in class they have the sun as yellow..
Wow, this thread was really absurd, mainly cos of the confusion with the color of the sun. I mean it seems like common sense.
― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Thursday, 17 March 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)
"Crimson flames tied through my ears rolling high and mighty trapsPounced with fire on flaming roads using ideas as my maps"
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)
I originally almost just typed the lyric straight with no introductory text but I was concerned it might be read as a candidate for bad Dylan. I don't have one of those, though.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)
Visions of your chestnut mare shoot through my head and are makin' me see stars.
Her chestnut mare? Is this Jane Austen? WTF?
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)
...unless it's meant to satirize precisely such exoticism? I've always heard Mozambique this way. There had been a ten-year civil war against colonialism prior to Desire's release. Surely Dylan is not writing blind about a random country, but critiquing the facile tourist-brochure view of the world? And, re: Bangs on Joey...Dylan's not a reporter. Expecting the guy who writes lines like "the highway is for gamblers" not to be given to mythologizing is a bit naive. (besides, since when was glorifying criminals unacceptable?).
"Man Gave Names to All the Animals." Also,
"The motorcycle black madonna two-wheeled gypsy queen..."
always strikes me as too Dylanesque, like he just just put the word "woman" through the dylan-symbol-machine, and it went a bit crazy.
― The Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Friday, 26 May 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)
I read somewhere that this is a reference to Roger McGuinn, who had a song named "Chestnut Mare". I'm not sure the exact meaning, but perhaps Dylan's ex-wife had a thing with McGuinn? It's some sort of personal symbolism, I believe.
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)
A golden opportunity missed by ILM!
The kelp line in Sara is the worst.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)
I reserve special ire for "When the Night Comes Falling From The Sky" and how Dylan mewls the mixed metaphor "I can hear your trembling heart beat like a river."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)
Ah, my friends from the prison, they ask unto me,"How good, how good does it feel to be free?"And I answer them most mysteriously,"Are birds free from the chains of the skyway?"
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)
"the sun aint yellow..." is great
― bb (bbrz), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
"Lenny Bruce is dead but his ghost lives on and onNever did get any Golden Globe award, never made it to Synanon."
Okay, so I know what Lenny didn't do. And?
Well, in the rest of the song, Bob tells you what he does, but in a very moralizing way.
It's the Golden Globes reference that gets to me, I think.
― James, Friday, 26 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)
from "Heart of Mine"
― marc h. (marc h.), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)
I have dined with kings, I've been offered wingsAnd I've never been too impressed.
-- always reminds me of Charlene ("I've been undressed by kings..."), which at least is funny.
(By the way, when has he been "offered wings"? Hot wings? Or like when he flies the friendly skies? "Here, sir, let me pin this to your lapel...")
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)
― marc h. (marc h.), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
--- one line, indicts itself without so much as a weak rhyme to trigger the eye-rolling.
plus its hard not to consider the larger context of the song --- I dig "is your love in vain" for instance --- I like the horns, I like that part where he goes "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalright I'll take-a-chance" ----
"neighborhood bully" is just pure shit through and through ----
― reacher, Friday, 26 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)
"We want to put his ass in stirWe want to pin this triple MUR-der on him - he ain't no Gentleman Jim."
from Hurricane.
― Dave Depper (Dave Depper), Friday, 26 May 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)
Every time I reread this thread, I'm taken pleasantly by surprise by the whole "But the sun ISN'T yellow!" thing. Still one of the most goofily WTF things I've read on ILX.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:56 (seventeen years ago)
"How does it feel to be on your own, with no direction home; like a complete unknown. like a rolling stone?" = " Fire and ice, you come on like a flame and then you turn a cold shoulder; fire and ice, I wanna give you my love, but you'll just take a little piece of my heart - you'll just tear it apart."
― Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:18 (seventeen years ago)
I love the song it's from, but every time I hear the line "Many times I've often prayed" in "Girl From The North Country" I cringe a little bit.
― purrington, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:32 (seventeen years ago)
Instead of stopping when we could we went right onTill suddenly we found that the brakes were gone.
― ian, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:45 (seventeen years ago)
I always hated this:
Then she opened up a book of poemsAnd handed it to meWritten by an Italian poetFrom the thirteenth century.And every one of them words rang trueAnd glowed like burnin' coalPourin' off of every pageLike it was written in my soul from me to you,Tangled up in blue.
― Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Saturday, 24 January 2009 06:14 (seventeen years ago)
esp "Like it was written in my soul from me to you"
haha, oh, I said as much upthread
― Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Saturday, 24 January 2009 06:15 (seventeen years ago)
i know, i opened the thread to bitch about "hurricane," but apparently i already did that.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2009 06:30 (seventeen years ago)
Half my posts lately are repeats. I'm gettin old mang.
― Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Saturday, 24 January 2009 06:35 (seventeen years ago)
I'm not sure if this belongs in best or worst:
Listen to me Mr. PussymanThis might be your last night in a bed so softWe're not pimps on the make, politicians on the take,You can't pay us off.
― thunda lightning (clotpoll), Saturday, 24 January 2009 06:54 (seventeen years ago)
"The waitress, he was handsome."
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:28 (seventeen years ago)
man hurting is RONG
― Mr. Que, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)
uh yeah, that is a great verse -- (the tangled up in blue one). any songwriter would kill to have written that, you kidding me? I agree with the Lenny Bruce mention above -- that song always baffled me. "I rode with him in a taxi once, only for a mile and a half, Seemed like it took a couple of months." Sounds like a boring taxi ride ...
― tylerw, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
"Lenny Bruce" really is just full of awful lines. The one that makes me scratch my head the most is "Never robbed any churches/Never cut off any babies' heads" That Lenny Bruce, such a hero in his unwillingness to cut off babies' heads.
― purrington, Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:01 (seventeen years ago)
haha, yeah that is a good one ... it is curious, because Dylan still plays that song live from time to time! And there are a ton of good songs he never plays ...
― tylerw, Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:05 (seventeen years ago)
the lyric is, "the sun's NOT yellow, it's chicken."
― thirdalternative, Saturday, 24 January 2009 23:49 (seventeen years ago)
Most of "Desire" has pretty bad lyrics, most of which come from Jacques Levy.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, February 11, 2005 8:43 PM (3 years ago)
Desire is full of howlers, most of which we can blame on Jacques Levy.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, May 26, 2006 2:27 PM (2 years ago)
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 25 January 2009 02:24 (seventeen years ago)
i think one of the things i like about dylan is that a lot of his lyrics are borderline-terrible -- full of ridiculously extravagant imagery and hackneyed rhymes and really corny stuff. but his voice and persona are so powerful that he makes it work, at least most of the time.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 25 January 2009 02:38 (seventeen years ago)
"I always hated this:
Then she opened up a book of poemsAnd handed it to meWritten by an Italian poetFrom the thirteenth century.And every one of them words rang trueAnd glowed like burnin' coalPourin' off of every pageLike it was written in my soul from me to you,Tangled up in blue."
I like this because it feels like he is at least half-mocking the sentiment and the experience.
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:01 (seventeen years ago)
for me pretty much the whole lyric of sara is his worst.that chorus - yowza.
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:02 (seventeen years ago)
J.D. otm
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:07 (seventeen years ago)
in a song called marijuanaville by tenacious D:
"And they say I sound like Dylan when I'm stoned!"
fucking hate that song, fucking Jack Black is not funny
― highschoolworld, Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:16 (seventeen years ago)
his line, from the same song:I have dined with kings, I've been offered wingsAnd I've never been too impressed.-- always reminds me of Charlene ("I've been undressed by kings..."), which at least is funny.(By the way, when has he been "offered wings"? Hot wings? Or like when he flies the friendly skies? "Here, sir, let me pin this to your lapel...")― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, May 26, 2006 3:29 PM Bookmark
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, May 26, 2006 3:29 PM Bookmark
C'mon, how awesome is it if he was offered hot wings? He sits down to table with the King, expecting some sumptuous repast, and His Highness passes him a wing platter and starts going on about his secret sauce recipe!
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 31 March 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
This Wing's On Fire
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 March 2011 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
this was the right answer:
Anyone up in this bitch ever listen to Another Side of Bob Dylan? If y'all did, you'd know the worst line AND verse ever in a Bob song is from Ballad In Plan D.Ah, my friends from the prison, they ask unto me,"How good, how good does it feel to be free?"And I answer them most mysteriously,"Are birds free from the chains of the skyway?"― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, May 26, 2006 2:46 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 31 March 2011 22:56 (fourteen years ago)
MOST MYS-TEER-EE-US-LEE
ah ballad in plain d is pretty i think
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 March 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
It's weird because if there are any chains-- any chains whatsoever-- that birds are free from, it's the skyway's. Everybody knows that. They do have some trouble with the chains that go on your tires in winter time though.
Guess that's why it's so mysterious.
― Mark, Friday, 1 April 2011 03:46 (fourteen years ago)
His friends from the prison should've shanked him.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 1 April 2011 03:56 (fourteen years ago)
i refuse to believe anyone has actually listened to ballad in plain d more than once
― Spikey, Friday, 1 April 2011 05:18 (fourteen years ago)
The king was in his counting house counting out his money,The queen was in the parlour eating bread and honeyThe maid was in the garden hanging out the clothes,When along came a blackbird and pecked off her nose.
Super-lame, imho.
― stooping as low to include electronic blips and bloops (superflyguy), Friday, 1 April 2011 12:27 (fourteen years ago)
The hot wings thing is just cracking me up today, thank you samjeff.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)
Rhymes in Sara make me cringe:
Now the beach is deserted except for some kelp
And a piece of an old ship that lies on the shore.
You always responded when I needed your help,
You gimme a map and a key to your door.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 23 March 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)
It doesn't get much worse than:"Crimson flames tied through my ears rolling high and mighty trapsPounced with fire on flaming roads using ideas as my maps"
hell no this is AMAZING.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)
i kinda think that if you can't appreciate that sort of wonderful, ridiculous shit you can't possibly be getting as much out of dylaan as you could be.
"There's a whole lotta...sufferin' tonight...from da disease of conceit..."
(STUPID OBVIOUS PIANO CHORDS}
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)
how has "Rainy Day Woman #12 and 35" escaped this thread???
damn near the worst Dylan song, easily the worst Dylan lyrics
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha, I heard "Disease of Conceit" for the first time this morning and it's what prompted me to revive the thread, but I forgot once I hit the hot wings.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)
do people hate rainy day woman just because it's the first track on a canonized album so it's like SUPERCHARGED burned
― deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)
no, I have always hated it. and I love the rest of the album, my fave Dylan.
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:50 (thirteen years ago)
it's the penultimate "crazy circus crap"
― deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)
"I've sucked the milk out of a thousand cows"
That one's quite a gambit, shamelessly awful and good at the same time. It reads like a rural version of Norman Mailer, but if you really visualize it, the macho posture is somewhat undermined by the thought of Dylan as a frail, needy calf.
― collardio gelatinous, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)
I like "Señor" but many of the lines are Dylan trying to sound Dylan-esque:
Well, the last thing I remember before I stripped and kneeledWas that trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, senor is full of silly lines, but dylan and his band sell it, especially in the live 78 versions. he still performs it pretty well these days, seems to really enjoy singing it. it's funny, i just read that Paul Nelson anthology/bio, and Nelson is really into this one unreleased (still?) song, "Dusty Old Fairgrounds," trying to get other artists (including the NY Dolls!) to record it, playing it for anyone who'd listen. It's weird, cuz I've heard it and it's sort of terrible! not a lost classic by any means.
― tylerw, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)
sucked the milk out of a thousand cows rules wtf!
SERIOUSLY DUDES I WON'T HEAR A BAD WORD SAID ABOUT SENOR TALES OF YANKEE POWER
― konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)
Son, this ain't a dream no more it's the real thing.
― tylerw, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry but this is my number one grammar pet peeve. Penultimate is not a fancier way of saying ultimate. It means second to last.
The only way for the above statement to be true would be for someone to release an album of crazy circus crap, and put Rainy Day Women as the 2nd to last song.
pe·nul·ti·mate (p-nlt-mt)adj.1. Next to last.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)
The bridge that you travel ongoes to the Babylongirl with the rose in her hairStarlight in the Eastand you're finally releasedYou're stranded but with nothing to share.
#1: always sounds like he's just straight up saying "goes to the Babylon," which is terrible#2: "Babylon" is not an adjective so it really can't modify "girl" like that#3: "travel on" and "Babylon" is awwwwwwful#4: for some reason, in order to make "hair" rhyme with "share" (which, uh...), he pronounces "hair" "haaarrr"#5: the "but" in the last line is superfluous#6: wtf is he even trying to say with all this
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 November 2012 06:03 (thirteen years ago)
bitches, man
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 November 2012 07:33 (thirteen years ago)
no i have no idea
but i've decided disease of conceit is underrated. i like how dylan thinking he can get away w this shit is itself a symptom of the titular disease. it's soberingly meta.
and the answer to this question is still and forever "are birds free from the chains of the skyway".
LOL i know someone who uses that lyric as their email signature.
so many dylan lyrics are awful, and a lot hover over the great/awful divide. which is why i thought his "reinvention" in the 1990s (and continuing) as this kind of primitive sagelike conduit of the "old, weird america" is really off base. of all great lyricists, surely dylan is the one whose songs show their seams most fully.
his best lyrics are on john wesley harding, surely?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)
Who killed Davey Moore?Why and what's the reason for?
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 7 December 2012 04:53 (thirteen years ago)
that's a pretty strong song, lyrically. Especially for a dude in his early 20s.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 7 December 2012 05:47 (thirteen years ago)
gives me chills when the audience suddenly starts applauding on "i hit him, i hit him / yes it's true / but that's what i'm / PAID to do." i think they're applauding the line about cuba right before it but the timing is so strange.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 7 December 2012 06:09 (thirteen years ago)
That skyway thing...was he maybe writing about the Minneapolis Skyway? The one that the Replacements sang about?
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
dislike the dogs run free dissing in the first post >:(
― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)
xpost yo dog St Paul's got a ton of skyways too, it ain't just a mpls thing
(/western pride)
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
lolol i meant /eastern
I think I kinda like the "sun ain't yellow" line now.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)
And you chain birds to them? That seems mean.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
New album has some clunkers, especially on "Tin Angel." "He pondered the future of his fate"? And this:
“Get up, stand up, you greedy-lipped wenchAnd cover your face or suffer the consequenceYou are making my heart feel sickPut your clothes back on, double-quick”
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)
ze fkk?
― t**t, Friday, 7 December 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
"He pondered the future of his fate"
Hello David Coverdale
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)
i don't know if this is the worst or the best:
Wiggle ’til you’re high, wiggle ’til you’re higherWiggle ’til you vomit fire
― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)
that's awesome is what that is
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)
yeah under the red sky has some great oddball lyrics
Hey! Who could your lover be?Hey! Who could your lover be?Let me eat off his head so you can really see!
― tylerw, Friday, 7 December 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)
orHandy Dandy, if every bone in his body was broken he would never admit itHe got an all-girl orchestra and when he says“Strike up the band,” they hit it
i wouldn't say worst, and there's other keepers from Sara already referenced but
I can still hear the sounds of those Methodist bells,I'd taken the cure and had just gotten through,Stayin' up for days in the Chelsea Hotel,Writin' "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" for you.
last line is just so yick
― da croupier, Friday, 7 December 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)
Like if Alanis Morrissette finally just wrote a song called "Dave"
― da croupier, Friday, 7 December 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)
alanis is gonna need a whole concept album to deal with Dave.
― tylerw, Friday, 7 December 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)
da croupier ot. I'm not a fan of I Shall Be Fee No. 10.
Well, I set my monkey on the logAnd ordered him to do the DogHe wagged his tail and shook his headAnd he went and did the Cat insteadHe’s a weird monkey, very funky
― Pat Finn, Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:15 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry, I meant "otm" when I wrote "ot".
― Pat Finn, Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:17 (thirteen years ago)
'sara' is one of my favorite dylan songs and performances but the concept is pretty appalling and that 'sad eyed lady' line is indeed cringeworthy.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:43 (thirteen years ago)
Desire in general kind of straddles the line between being amazing and embarrassing, even more precariously than most of Dylan's albums.
― Pat Finn, Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:48 (thirteen years ago)
haha, the "Sad-Eyed Lady" part is probably my favorite in that song! It's only line on the whole album where it's clear that this is broken-hearted Bobby Zimmerman, a guy who writes songs sometimes to work out his feelings, not the narrative voice of Bob Dylan, Teller Of Fantastic Tales. I actually prefer the latter usually (see the two Lily/Rosemary/Jack-of-Hearts threads) but I dig the former here as a moment of something cracking through.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:53 (thirteen years ago)
Do you like "Blind Willie McTell"? I think it does a similar thing to what you're talking about when the song is suddenly en media res at the "St James Hotel" in the last verse. I like that part of the song a lot.
― Pat Finn, Saturday, 8 December 2012 07:06 (thirteen years ago)
Listening to it now for the first time!
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 December 2012 07:38 (thirteen years ago)
There are undoubtedly lots of bad lines from bad songs, but my collection is completely mid-'70s and earlier, so there are very few bad songs. I'll go with the second post and pick what I think is a bad line from a great song: "The sun's not yellow, it's chicken."
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)
Doctor Casino otm as usual, it's the best part of that shabby album
― Euler, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)
if we're talking worst ~delivery~ of a line in a Dylan song then I'm inclined to agree on Davey Moore, haaaate that song & its whinnnne
― Euler, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)
aww thanks Euler! Thing is, Desire is probably the Dylan record I've played the most times, as it was one of the first ones I discovered in my parents' record collection and I was (and remain) totally hooked on "Black Diamond Bay" and "Isis."
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)
see also Bob Dylan's "Black Diamond Bay" Characters Poll
i really like (most of) Desire. don't much care for "Sara", but the Sad-eyed Lady line is p cool imo
― Still S.M.D.H. ft. (will), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)
it's not even true! dylan wrote it in the studio in nashville
― da croupier, Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)
pretty ironic to pretend he's not a Teller Of Fantastic Tales in that bit
― da croupier, Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)
Xpost I think "the sun's not yellow it's chicken" is a great line indicating the, like, absurd cosmic grandeur of the speaker's egotism. I'm surprised to see it mentioned here tbh.
― Pat Finn, Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)
'blind willie mctell' is prob dylan's most perfectly formed lyric -- even his best songs usually have some throwaway lines, but not here. figures that he didn't even bother to release it for 10 years.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)
there's some very odd disagreement upthread about whether or not the sun is actually commonly considered to be yellow
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)
the worst/funniest line in the pro-israel song "neighborhood bully" is:
WHEN HE DESTROYED A BOMB FACTORYAIN'T NOBODY WAS GLADTHOSE BOMBS WERE MEANT FOR HIMHE WAS SUPPOSED TO FEEL BAD!
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)
from you're a big girl now:
"time is a jet plane it moves too fast"
― buh, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)
also from infidels another personal favorite:
YOU KNOW THEY USED TO GROW FOOD IN KANSASNOW THEY WANNA GROW IT ON THE MOON AND EAT IT RAW!!!
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)
eating moon-food raw, that's a double entendre right
― da croupier, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)
It's innocuous but it really bugs me: Oh, Mama, can this really be the endTo be stuck inside of MobileWith the Memphis blues again
― *tera, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)
No way dogg
― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)
"Jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule."
Not every bit of speed-inspired nonsense that popped into his head in the 60s was brilliant.
― Driver 8, Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)
the delivery of that line on the Live 1966 set is epic though
― Euler, Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)
^^^
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)
i think my favorite version of "visions of johanna" now is the one on the no direction home sdtrk. it rocks so hard; fuck a "thin wild mercury"
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)
A close call: Desire, Street Legal or Infidels for grossest lyricist indivisible from vocal smarm
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)
*lyrics
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)
Street Legal is a pretty weird album, I agree. Changing of the Guards really creeped me out when I first heard it. The lyrics seem to describe an apocalypse of some sort but the song itself is really upbeat and joyful. I still don't really understand what it is about. I almost suspect that it is meant as ironic critique of revolutionary and/or apocalyptic rhetoric, like "When the Ship Comes In", but I'm not sure.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 9 December 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)
Maybe it's just lazy and cryptic in a cynical way.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 9 December 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)
Love street legal
― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)
Street Legal is a more cynical cash-in than Knocked Out Loaded or whatever; the latter sounds like table scraps while the former really does sound like he cared enough to craft songs in the studio yet had no idea what to say except to imitate what fans thought Bob Dylan should sound like. I know plenty of his best songs boast throwaways and laugh lines (often the best part of'em) but the images in "Changing of the Guard" are more discrete than usual; they don't cohere, and as singer he doesn't try to make them cohere.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)
The bridge that you travel onGoes to the Babylon
^^^ stuck in my head and driving me crazy
― sisterhood of the baggering vance (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:15 (nine years ago)
haha i see i was suffering the same symptoms in november of 2012
― sisterhood of the baggering vance (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:17 (nine years ago)
LENNY BRUCE IS DEAD
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:20 (nine years ago)
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:21 (nine years ago)
"Jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule."Not every bit of speed-inspired nonsense that popped into his head in the 60s was brilliant.
Ha yes. And it became an equally terrible album cover by the Stones.
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:22 (nine years ago)
"Conceit is a disease that the doctors got no cureThey've done a lot of research on it, but what it is, they're still not sure"The whole song's pretty embarrassing. There are tons of truly awful Dylan lyrics, and tons of really great ones, he's the original hit-and-miss lyricist.
― Joubert, Friday, February 11, 2005 12:38 PM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol yes we have a winner, I like oh mercy but totally forgot about this tune
― marcos, Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:24 (nine years ago)
maybe the sun NEVER looks yellow from new zealand??????!????
― j., Friday, 20 May 2016 00:35 (nine years ago)
Now the beach is deserted, except for some KELP
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 December 2021 04:35 (four years ago)
Born in Red Hook, Brooklyn, in the year of who knows when
or
Today on the countryside it was a-hotter than a crotch
― birdistheword, Friday, 17 December 2021 04:57 (four years ago)
The worst line in a Bob Dylan song is the one he never delivers in "Man Gave Names to All the Animals"
He saw an animal as smooth as glassSlithering his way through the grassSaw him disappear by a tree near a lake...
Portentous in every definition of the word
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 17 December 2021 05:03 (four years ago)
Today on the countryside it was a-hotter than a crotchThat’s a great line—I think about it a lot. Hotter than a crotch!
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Friday, 17 December 2021 05:06 (four years ago)
Now the house was deserted — except for the ELF
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Friday, 17 December 2021 05:26 (four years ago)
That’s a great line—I think about it a lot. Hotter than a crotch!
LOL, I know! I think it's awful in a good way - impossible to forget, like whenever it's hot outside, I think of that line.
― birdistheword, Friday, 17 December 2021 05:42 (four years ago)
And never sat once at the head of the tableAnd didn't even talk to the people at the table,Who just cleaned up all the food from the table,I AM THE TABLE. I AM THE TABLE.
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:57 (four years ago)